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Speaker 1: Hello, Chip, Hello.

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I started the park, perfect time,

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Speaker 2: perfect time to take a big old sip of water.

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Speaker 3: I realized my mouth. Let's try the second I started

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Speaker 3: to talk. But I thought maybe you would say more.

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Speaker 3: I could buy myself.

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Speaker 1: Some more time to take an evital sit But I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Hi. That was that was me getting you back for

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Speaker 2: calling me out, for texting.

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Speaker 1: That you're going to call me out. I was about

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Speaker 1: to treat myself because.

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Speaker 3: It was a really long Listeners are like, where'd she go?

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Speaker 1: Anyway?

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Speaker 4: Hello?

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Speaker 3: All?

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Speaker 1: We are here today. It's Friday.

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Speaker 3: It is the first week of April. Can I say

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Speaker 3: something about the first week of no And I'm super

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Speaker 3: glad because I'm just over it. I'm like, this isn't

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Speaker 3: funny when who created this and who thought that this

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Speaker 3: was a funny joke? But I saw someone on Instagram

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Speaker 3: post about April Fools this year being canceled because the

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Speaker 3: world just feels like a joke every.

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Speaker 4: Day every day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, like the headlines are so outrageous that it's April

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Speaker 3: fols every day, but it's real life.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like we wish it were April.

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Speaker 3: Four, right, we wish that everyone would say aprilfol just kidding,

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Speaker 3: but no, this is real life.

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Speaker 1: Did you get April fooled?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 2: I mean I follow this music industry guy that, like

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Speaker 2: I get a newsletter in every year. He sends his

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Speaker 2: April one is like a joke, but he puts enough,

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Speaker 2: like real factual stuff in there that you don't realize

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Speaker 2: you're reading a joke until something stands out where you're like,

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Speaker 2: this has.

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Speaker 1: Got to mead it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's how I realized, Oh, today's April first.

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Speaker 1: Oh really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Well it was an interesting way to start the

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Speaker 3: month because on the April on April first, which was

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Speaker 3: Wednesday of this week, we had a librafull moon, and

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Speaker 3: so obviously I did my podcast with Marv, but it

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Speaker 3: was kind of an intense day and it's like moving

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Speaker 3: into this really intense month. Apparently I don't know they

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Speaker 3: all feel that way to me now, So I'm like,

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Speaker 3: it just perfect were.

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Speaker 1: I think it will?

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Speaker 3: I think, I mean, I think we're in What I

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Speaker 3: feel like the way that it just goes in my

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Speaker 3: brain is that we're just in this pressure cooker and

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Speaker 3: feels like everything is escalating, even more and things will

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Speaker 3: begin to actually happen at this point because we have

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Speaker 3: so much that moved into aries. If you listen to

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Speaker 3: the podcast on Wednesday, Marv really broke that down, and

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Speaker 3: if you haven't and you're into astrology, go listen to

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Speaker 3: that because he breaks down everything that's to come and

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Speaker 3: how to work with it. Like, I don't like to

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Speaker 3: do astrology as doom and gloom, and it has been

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Speaker 3: the astrology is like fear mongering or be better watch out.

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Speaker 3: And every time I'm feeling that kind of stuff or

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Speaker 3: This has always been how life is. Maybe this is

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Speaker 3: but there have been intense periods of time in the world.

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Speaker 2: Before that, and we're still standing here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and that astrology or astrologers were probably saying the

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Speaker 3: same things. You know, we just have it kind of

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Speaker 2: Yeah, access to information is so much wider.

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Speaker 3: Right, But the benefit being if you know about it,

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Speaker 3: which is how I've started to use astrology. It's like

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Speaker 3: astrology always astrologies, and you can start seeing it in

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Speaker 4: Like that's so funny.

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Speaker 2: Like yesterday, on the first, Yeah, I had what felt

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it was a film moon. Yeah, so you

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Speaker 3: you're like, why has this impacting me so much? But

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Speaker 3: what you left out is that you're at your parents'

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think when you only have like a

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Speaker 3: craziness or hectic work schedules or whatever. And then when

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Speaker 3: that's actually kind of what we talked about, was like

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Speaker 3: figuring out if there's a space in your life that

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Speaker 3: just does not feel aligned anymore. If there's relationships where

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Speaker 3: And also I do not want to go through the

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Speaker 1: I don't feel like that.

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Speaker 3: But what I feel like is I'm in this like

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Speaker 3: So in some weird ways, you're in this like wobbly

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Speaker 3: And so that's where it's coming up for me when

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Speaker 3: Like that's a struggle for you when you say, yeah.

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Speaker 2: It's and because it's I'm a people pleaser and hurt

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Speaker 2: like hurting someone, including myself is hard, you know, Like

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 2: I tend to like lean into the humor of things,

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Speaker 2: and I do it through humor, and it's you know,

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Speaker 4: But these are the things that I recommend.

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Speaker 2: And my dad says to me, he's like, she loves

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Speaker 2: she has a really great time at physical therapy, proud

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Speaker 2: of like, you're in a break I don't, you know,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well I.

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Speaker 2: Thought this was gonna work out better for you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so for you, does it just look like dragging

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Speaker 3: your feet and pretending like everything's fine, yes, okay, And.

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Speaker 2: I over then I overcompensate until until I get to

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Speaker 2: just kind of I didn't like full on ghost like

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Speaker 2: it was realistic. There was one time I was dating

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Speaker 2: and I've really really used the like time zone difference

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Speaker 3: Oh boy, I would murder you if we were ever

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Speaker 4: Never Yeah, it would not work.

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Speaker 1: I'd be like, where the fuck are you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so, and it was just I mean that was

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Speaker 2: and I look back and I'm like, that's gaslighting.

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Speaker 3: You know, like one you're like saying, do you feel

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Speaker 3: You know what about that saying? Though, I got to

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Speaker 3: He you know, I think in those situations, what relationships

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Speaker 2: The bad relationships ultimately end up being a good thing

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, I pride myself on being well liked,

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Speaker 4: Okay, no one can hate me more.

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Speaker 2: It like takes the power of someone else not liking

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Speaker 2: So you know, I wanted to say that because I

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Speaker 3: So well, and it also really I mean, I think

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Speaker 3: Like it's just or you don't put that you don't

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Speaker 4: Or that's you have fallen more in love with yourself.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to the point where like those feelings don't even

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Speaker 4: Like well, if you can show up.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, are some of it's like you can't

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Speaker 1: This is what that.

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00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 3: Looks like, right, But it's not like now in my relationship,

443
00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:22,560
Speaker 3: like you said, we fight, like we definitely are fight.

444
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 3: We're two different people, we're very different people, so we fight,

445
00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,200
Speaker 3: but not often, and when we do, we still can

446
00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:31,840
Speaker 3: make repair, like I've said before, and we're never like

447
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,639
Speaker 3: it's not the same kind of fighting. I don't know

448
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: how to explain it. I'm not trying to ruin him

449
00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:42,000
Speaker 3: in my fight, right, and he's not trying to ruin Yeah,

450
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:44,960
Speaker 3: we have our own triggers, and we both have our

451
00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:47,439
Speaker 3: own past, you know, so stuff comes up that is

452
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:51,679
Speaker 3: normal and so of course, but like to your point,

453
00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 3: it is easy. It's so much easier. And like even

454
00:21:55,560 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 3: the days that feel quote unquote like our hardest days

455
00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:02,600
Speaker 3: are easier than some of my buzz days and past relationships,

456
00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: you know. And that's because we're both on our own

457
00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:08,639
Speaker 3: individual growth journeys, and like at the end of the

458
00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 3: day when something comes up between us, like I want

459
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 3: to go maybe sometimes I'll walk away, take a break

460
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 3: or whatever, and I'm like, okay, what's coming up for me?

461
00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 3: And he does the same, and it changes the name

462
00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:24,639
Speaker 3: of the game. But it's not as quote unquote hard

463
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 3: as what that statement would make you believe, or made

464
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Speaker 3: me believe.

465
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Speaker 1: For so many years. So I'm glad you brought that up.

466
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,359
Speaker 3: Actually I hate that statement now because I'm like, that

467
00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:34,960
Speaker 3: gives people the wrong idea, and.

468
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 4: It gives it really does.

469
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 2: I think it gives you license to just sit in

470
00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:39,600
Speaker 2: it and.

471
00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:44,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, because relationships are hard, but they shouldn't they shouldn't

472
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 3: be work more hard than they are enjoyable.

473
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Speaker 1: And that's what I used to do.

474
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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, well, so on Friday episodes, obviously we like

475
00:22:53,240 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 3: to keep things a little bit lighter. And that was

476
00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,520
Speaker 3: our deep dive into the serious for a second to

477
00:22:58,520 --> 00:22:59,680
Speaker 3: give you guys a preface of what.

478
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Speaker 1: We're going to do.

479
00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 3: But we're gonna play a little game called keeping the

480
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,200
Speaker 3: Peace Olympics, and this is basically just gonna I'm gonna

481
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 3: say a scenario and then we're either going to decide like, okay,

482
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 3: is this a healthy compromise or would this be keeping

483
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,639
Speaker 3: the peace? Or is this like a total like self

484
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,399
Speaker 3: betrayal and not a positive thing to do. And I

485
00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,359
Speaker 3: feel like both of us have done most of these.

486
00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 2: Oh god, So it'll be.

487
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 3: Interesting to see where it sits as you are now,

488
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 3: because I think you could probably say, Okay, in the past,

489
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:32,199
Speaker 3: I would have thought this and this, but then you

490
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,880
Speaker 3: know I want to do in reality right now.

491
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 2: That's what we start with.

492
00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, this is what we're gonna do. Okay, So

493
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,199
Speaker 3: some of the scenarios, let's go with them. One not

494
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 3: bringing something up because quote unquote it's not worth it,

495
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:49,360
Speaker 3: but you're thinking about it for days like the spiral

496
00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:49,920
Speaker 3: on the loop.

497
00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:52,800
Speaker 4: What are my options.

498
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 3: Healthy compromise, keeping the peace, or quiet self betrayal?

499
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Speaker 2: I like, it's kind of being sea. I feel like

500
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: I'm keeping the peace, but I know that it's self betrayal.

501
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,720
Speaker 3: This one is tricky for me, and I want your

502
00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,239
Speaker 3: opinion on it, okay, okay. So when I was reading it,

503
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,680
Speaker 3: I thought, I think that that's quiet self betrayal. That's

504
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,159
Speaker 3: where my first thought went, because in the past I

505
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:19,520
Speaker 3: would have said the same as you, like, I'm just

506
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 3: keeping the peace. I'm trying not to rock the boat.

507
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 3: And the reason I would have said that in the

508
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,600
Speaker 3: past is because I'm realizing I was in a lot

509
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 3: of narcissistic relationships and so like bringing up the truth

510
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,639
Speaker 3: isn't really welcome, you know what I mean, and so

511
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,480
Speaker 3: it will cause way more problems for you.

512
00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:39,880
Speaker 4: So it was keeping your peace.

513
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:43,320
Speaker 3: Well and it was keeping me safe realistically, because if

514
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: like a person with high narcissistic traits or streak, or

515
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:52,120
Speaker 3: even if they're full blown narcissistic personality disorder, if they

516
00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:56,480
Speaker 3: know that you recognize them as that or it can

517
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 3: see what they're doing and how they're manipulating. It becomes

518
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 3: very day dangerous. Yeah, So I guess like what I

519
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,119
Speaker 3: would actually answer now is if you find yourself doing that,

520
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:13,560
Speaker 3: is it you betraying yourself or is it you in

521
00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 3: a relationship that probably, like, isn't an indicator that you're

522
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 3: in a really unhealthy dynamic?

523
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I think it's an indication of that.

524
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 3: Of something really yeah, because if you feel good in

525
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,119
Speaker 3: a relationship, you should be able to talk to your

526
00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 3: partner about stuff, right, or your friend or your work whatever, totally,

527
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 3: And I think.

528
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Speaker 2: If if it's a healthy relationship, there might be a

529
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,240
Speaker 2: most you know, I'm just trying to think of an example.

530
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 2: Say your partner says something off color at a table

531
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 2: when you're with friends, and you're like, I'm not going

532
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 2: to say anything because I wanted to turn into this

533
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,800
Speaker 2: whole thing, but when we get home, yeah, I'm not

534
00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,640
Speaker 2: going to keep the peace, you know, So there are

535
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 2: I think that's an example of like it truly being

536
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,280
Speaker 2: keeping the peace, but you're not betraying yourself. And I

537
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,959
Speaker 2: think that, you know, in a healthy relationship, that's probably

538
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 2: a pretty good tactic there's no reason to embarrass people

539
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 2: embarrass themselves.

540
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 3: Hopefully you could bring it up later in a kind

541
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 3: way and just say, hey, that kind of bothered me

542
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:16,359
Speaker 3: or whatever, and you can have a productive conversation about it. Yeah, okay,

543
00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 3: agreeing to plans you don't want to.

544
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:25,120
Speaker 1: Go to, I just go.

545
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: I do too a lot. I'm getting better about it.

546
00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 3: I am getting way better about it. But it's hard.

547
00:26:33,119 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: I hate letting people down.

548
00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: That's my thing.

549
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, especially saying that you're going to go somewhere and

550
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 2: then the night arrives and you're just like, oh, this

551
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: is literally the last thing I want to do. And

552
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,960
Speaker 2: then it's like it becomes a whole thing. It's like,

553
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: none of my clothes fit. What am I going to wear?

554
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I'm dressing appropriately for this.

555
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: And then you're like, my mind is like just show up?

556
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:57,560
Speaker 4: Is yourself? Chip like you don't?

557
00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:02,359
Speaker 3: You guys are watching this on YouTube because energy he

558
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 3: just shifted to with like a whole new character. It

559
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 3: wasn't even it was like a totally different dynamic.

560
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 4: It's exactly how I.

561
00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 2: Think, though, you know, I'm like, oh, and then I

562
00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: just get stounded and go.

563
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 3: It's a great solution. We're bringing health to the listeners here.

564
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: I understand what you're saying though about the grouchiness before.

565
00:27:23,480 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: If it's something you don't want to do, I am

566
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,479
Speaker 3: a tyrant. Like this is when my boyfriend laughs out

567
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: a lot because he's like, why are we going?

568
00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: I'm like I said I would.

569
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 3: I'm just all the way over the yeah, grouchy, all

570
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 3: the way over there, grouchy. And then eventually once I'm like,

571
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,119
Speaker 3: I know I'll have fun once I get there. But

572
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 3: like the party, you're like, he no, I walk in,

573
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 3: I'm like hey, and then but then you know, an

574
00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:54,479
Speaker 3: hour in, somebody made me laugh finally, and it's awful

575
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: for everyone else. Though, Yeah, that's this is our Pisces moon.

576
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:02,640
Speaker 3: It's like I can't really Like everyone talks about Pisc's

577
00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 3: moons and they say, you know, it's a roller coaster

578
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 3: or whatever, and I'm like, what do.

579
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: You think it's like to be one?

580
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 3: Like, it's not for us either, guys, Like it is

581
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 3: like you really have to learn how to work with

582
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 3: all the different feelings that you feel, because you can

583
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,000
Speaker 3: wake up in a different mood every day, Like, for

584
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:21,479
Speaker 3: no reason, I just will wake up in a good

585
00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:23,120
Speaker 3: mood or wake up in a bad I don't know.

586
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 3: So I really have had to like develop.

587
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 2: Nothing to do with the side of the bed either

588
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 2: as we're as we're as we're breaking down the English

589
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: language and things that are don't make sense.

590
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, what about letting something slide to avoid conflict?

591
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: I mean that's kind of like the first one.

592
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: I agree.

593
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 2: I mean my problem is is that I, oh, wait,

594
00:28:47,480 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 2: we it's what's the ABC again?

595
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:50,640
Speaker 1: ABC?

596
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 3: Oh, healthy compromise, keeping the peace, quiet, self betrayal.

597
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: I mean I feel like it's B and C again, Like.

598
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,360
Speaker 2: I think I've convinced myself that it's keeping the peace,

599
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: but I'm really just betraying myself, and like prolonging the inevitable.

600
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 3: Prolonging the inevitable is an interesting statement. Yeah, yeah, My

601
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 3: answer is exactly the same. If I'm in a relationship

602
00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 3: where I feel like I can approach it from a

603
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 3: kind place and have a healthy discussion, that's a win.

604
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 3: That's like I'll do it, and I think, I don't know,

605
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: I think that's a good thing. But then there's stuff

606
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 3: I don't know, and then there's stuff like obviously, like

607
00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 3: I said, okay, my boyfriend and I are really different,

608
00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 3: so obviously there's gonna be stuff that I do or

609
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 3: that he does that we're like, oh, why would it.

610
00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:41,160
Speaker 1: Because we're different?

611
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 4: Why did you do it that way?

612
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: Yeah? But so I really try to check myself if

613
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: that ever comes up too, because I'm like, just because

614
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 3: it bothered me doesn't.

615
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: Mean he did anything wrong, you know what I mean, Like.

616
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,320
Speaker 3: He's being himself and he has every right to do that,

617
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: just like I have every right to do the things

618
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 3: that I do that drive him fucking crazy. So I

619
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 3: think there's Yeah, I think there's like a balance between

620
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 3: and like allowing people to be who they are and

621
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:06,360
Speaker 3: because you love them, accepting that as a part of them.

622
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:07,480
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?

623
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 4: Yeah?

624
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 1: But then if it's.

625
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 3: Something like damaging or detrimental, yeah, like hopefully you're in

626
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,320
Speaker 3: a relationship where you can talk about things and not

627
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 3: get the World War three to start. But if you are,

628
00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 3: then you probably shouldn't be in that relationship totally.

629
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 4: It's funny because I mean, if there were something that.

630
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:37,440
Speaker 2: Were like major, I feel like I would muster the

631
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,120
Speaker 2: courage to like have the conversation. But it's like more immediately,

632
00:30:42,400 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 2: it's the little things that feel like where I'm like,

633
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 2: I shouldn't even have to fucking say this, Like those

634
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 2: are the ones that I let, like let get under

635
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,920
Speaker 2: my skin that drop me crazy. I dated a guy

636
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 2: wants that I lived with that would do the laundry

637
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 2: and only fold his clothes.

638
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 1: Oh, I remember this, and I was just.

639
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 4: Like I let it go.

640
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,400
Speaker 2: I let it go, and then it was like I

641
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 2: just felt I was like, what the fuck? This is

642
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: so weird to me, and I finally had to say something,

643
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: and I can't remember exactly how the conversation unfolded, but

644
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 2: it was basically like he was like, well, I saw

645
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 2: you refolding the shirts that I folded one day, and

646
00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: I thought you didn't like how I folded them, so

647
00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 2: I stopped folding them. And it was like that simple yeah,

648
00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:28,720
Speaker 2: usually yeah, so, but it was this thing.

649
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:32,280
Speaker 1: That drove me leg But that's a legit reason, Like yeah,

650
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 1: he should have.

651
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: But also he kept the peace.

652
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 2: He should have been like, hey, I saw you not

653
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 2: folding those If you don't want me to fold your clothes, like,

654
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 2: I'm happy to.

655
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,200
Speaker 3: Like I fold things differently than others, and sometimes you're

656
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: like trying to help, but if they're refolding it, you

657
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:47,640
Speaker 3: could be like, hey, how.

658
00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 1: Do you like your stuff folded?

659
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 3: I would like to help you out right, but I'm

660
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 3: obviously doing it in a way that doesn't work for you.

661
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 3: So am I helping or I don't know, just opening

662
00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: that conversation up. Folding clothes is so funny that way.

663
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 3: Everyone's real particular, aren't they.

664
00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm not.

665
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: Well, the only reason I like, trust me, I would

666
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: prefer to pull my clothes out of a pile in

667
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 2: the corner because I hate folding clothes. But it's the

668
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: only reason why, in particular, is because of how I

669
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: put them in my closet.

670
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: Right.

671
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 3: Well, I think that's you know, I find that more

672
00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 3: guys are more particular than girls.

673
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Maybe that's just because I date men.

674
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,200
Speaker 4: Well, your underwear, like.

675
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 2: When you can't fold your underwear, like you ball it

676
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: up and throw it like you're right. I just mean

677
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 2: women's underwear. It's like this big when you like, if

678
00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 2: you fold it, it turns into like a dime.

679
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: You can hold it.

680
00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: But I do have my underwear drawers very much, just

681
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: everything's kind of just thrown in.

682
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: Right, and there's a full women's underwear drawer is like

683
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 2: seven hundred pieces of underwear. It's like like five pair

684
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: twenty five is probably a men's full drawer.

685
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 1: You know, it feels like a lot for men.

686
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: I also think my part partners get a little bit

687
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,240
Speaker 3: lucky because, like I only work with men, and I

688
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 3: full shit all day every That's a part of.

689
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: My job, right, So you always get mistaken for an

690
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: employee at the gap because I do well.

691
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,760
Speaker 3: I used to be an employe at abercrom and Fitch,

692
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 3: and that is how I learned how to fold T shirts.

693
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: So there you go, like really.

694
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, yeah, okay, staying quiet because you don't

695
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: want to ruin the vibe.

696
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,040
Speaker 1: Some of these are a little bit repetitive.

697
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, they're kind of repetitive.

698
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,360
Speaker 2: I mean that one kind of takes me back to

699
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,479
Speaker 2: that like dinner table conversation where you would stay quiet

700
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 2: if your partner said something weird. Yeah, because when you

701
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 2: say ruin the vibe, that makes me think you're in

702
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 2: an environment that you don't want to change. So it's

703
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 2: like whether you're with friends at dinner or you're out

704
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 2: to dinner on a date, like and you don't want

705
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 2: it to turn into an argument. I think that that

706
00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 2: is more keeping the peace.

707
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: It's all the same though, isn't it. It's kind of

708
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 3: like I guess the point of this would be to

709
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 3: reflect on Yeah, I mean there are times where keeping

710
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,680
Speaker 3: the peace is the better option, especially as an adult,

711
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 3: need to be like real housewives flipping tables and shit

712
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: if we get pissed off. But is there is it

713
00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 3: still something that is like festering? Is it going to linger?

714
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 3: Are you obsessing about it? Then you do need to

715
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: have a conversation. And I don't, I know for me

716
00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 3: in the past, because I felt like I couldn't bring

717
00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 3: things to partners of mine. It just becomes this slow

718
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: self betrayal and like you have to either choose between

719
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: basically abandoning the relationship ultimately or continuing to abandon yourself.

720
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 3: And I used to choose the relationship. That's what I

721
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,280
Speaker 3: did in the past. Now I'm like, there is nothing

722
00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:39,239
Speaker 3: that would make me abandon myself for anything in this

723
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: life anymore.

724
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:40,719
Speaker 1: I can't do it.

725
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 3: I went way too far down that path and it

726
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: turned up terribly ultimately, and I feel like almost killed me.

727
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 3: Like at that time, it was just so bad and

728
00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 3: you lose you just lose yourself so far, you know,

729
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 3: and like, I just never want to do that again.

730
00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 3: So there's no relationship, no job, no client, no friendship

731
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 3: that is worth that for me again, because I know

732
00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 3: how bad it can be. But I think so often

733
00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 3: we just assume it'll be easier, and you don't want

734
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: to lose the relationship.

735
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: You don't want to lose the job.

736
00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 3: You don't want to lose the client, because there's like

737
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 3: a security thing there too. So it's very layered these things.

738
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, the reasons, I.

739
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 2: Mean, it's the wisdom comes with age too. You know,

740
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:26,920
Speaker 2: like at our age, we've lived so much life that

741
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,399
Speaker 2: we know that there's going to be another client, there

742
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 2: will be another relationship, there will be all the things

743
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 2: that you're scared will be gone forever. But when you're twenty,

744
00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 2: oh god, and it's your second relationship or your first

745
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,400
Speaker 2: job or first client, like it literally feels like the

746
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 2: world is going to end and you're gonna like your

747
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: your your existence is pointless.

748
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

749
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: But in the yeah, I think it's I think all

750
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 2: of this shit becomes easier as you're older, I think

751
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 2: because I mean it's like we have we literally have

752
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 2: zero folks to give to this point because we've kind

753
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: of figured out how to live.

754
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure there's things we don't matter.

755
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,839
Speaker 4: I love there, things will come up that far.

756
00:36:08,480 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we have figured we have figured it out,

757
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,759
Speaker 2: you know, like and I think that's only possibly, like unless.

758
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 4: You're a super old soul coming back.

759
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: I've always been told I'm an old soul though, and

760
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 3: as I think, you still do have to go through

761
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 3: trials and tribulations to get For me, I had to

762
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 3: get learned to connect with myself like that was like

763
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: the big thing. I think everyone's journey is totally different

764
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 3: on that, like what you need, but that was what

765
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 3: I learned through these traumatizing dysfunctional relationships, was like, Okay,

766
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,319
Speaker 3: I have to actually choose me before I try to

767
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: go outside of myself and make anyone else the authority

768
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:49,360
Speaker 3: of my life or the like thing I'm revolving around.

769
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,319
Speaker 1: You know. That was just like an easier thing for.

770
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 3: Me to choose when I was younger, and now I'm like, Okay,

771
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 3: me first, And that used to sound selfish to me,

772
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 3: but it doesn't anymore because I can show up so

773
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 3: much better and so much differently for all the relationships

774
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,439
Speaker 3: in my life now, just better all around. I will

775
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 3: say there was one more note I wanted to make,

776
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 3: And like I think a lot of times when it

777
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 3: comes to hard conversations, one of the things that can

778
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 3: hold people back is that we only know how to

779
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,319
Speaker 3: have them super aggressively, and we imagine in our brain, oh,

780
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 3: this is going to turn into a massive fight, or

781
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,240
Speaker 3: like I said, World WARLD three.

782
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: Why is it so hard to say, sometimes world or three?

783
00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:31,080
Speaker 3: And so when you feel like that's the only option

784
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 3: because you don't really know how to do it any

785
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: other way, of course you would be scared to do that.

786
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 3: Of course you wouldn't want to rock the boat. Of

787
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 3: course you would try to keep the peace like that's

788
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,120
Speaker 3: the only option. But again, maybe this is an age thing,

789
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,239
Speaker 3: but I think it's also just like a maturity thing,

790
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: is you start to learn there are ways to have

791
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 3: hard conversations very peacefully actually, And then again, if you're

792
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 3: presenting it very peacefully and someone can't respond that way,

793
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:59,440
Speaker 3: that's an indicator of like the state of the relationship

794
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 3: or the type of person that you're dating. So those

795
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 3: are the things to start paying attention to. But it

796
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be as bad as I think we

797
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 3: assume it will be.

798
00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: In our head, right, Yeah.

799
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: I don't know.

800
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 2: Have you ever experienced where you're like, you know, you're

801
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 2: planning to break up with someone the next day, and

802
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 2: you're like you're having the conversation in your head. You're

803
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,799
Speaker 2: like playing all the scenarios and you're like, well, if

804
00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 2: I say this, they're gonna say this, or they might

805
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,279
Speaker 2: say that, and then I'll say that, Like.

806
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: Did you ever do that? Because sure I would do that.

807
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,840
Speaker 2: But the hardest part for me was coming up with

808
00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: the opening line, like because it's just some yeah, it's

809
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 2: just like, hey, do you have some time for a

810
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: chat later? Like I think we need to talk, Like

811
00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 2: all of those just sound like. The worst thing.

812
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: Is what everyone knows what's coming after that. It's like,

813
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 3: don't don't.

814
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:52,080
Speaker 2: You know I'm gonna start doing that with good news,

815
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,280
Speaker 2: like Hey, do you have a minute to chat this afternoon?

816
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 4: Well I won the lottery?

817
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: Did you have to say?

818
00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 4: You'll just get used to doing.

819
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: That so I can then have that, you know, I'll

820
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: be more comfortable saying like hey, when you when you

821
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: get a minute, can you swing by my office?

822
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: Oh.

823
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 3: It's the worst when someone's like, what's your schedule today?

824
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 3: Do you have time to pop in. You're like, do

825
00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,680
Speaker 3: I want to find you?

826
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:18,879
Speaker 1: Yeah?

827
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, I'm all out of pop ins.

828
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:23,879
Speaker 1: I do think that's hard.

829
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:28,160
Speaker 3: I always for me it was weird because literally I

830
00:39:28,239 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: just didn't end relationships like myself. I didn't bring the

831
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: breakup to the forefront of the conversation until I was

832
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,760
Speaker 3: in my thirties, Like I'd never broken up with someone

833
00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,399
Speaker 3: like that, Like we would break up, but there would

834
00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 3: be ways, like what you were talking about earlier, where

835
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 3: it would be the slow fade or the you know it,

836
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:44,280
Speaker 3: just the.

837
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:45,879
Speaker 4: The you just stop responding.

838
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 3: And my therapist was like, you have to learn how

839
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 3: to break up with people.

840
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:51,839
Speaker 1: What are you gonna do?

841
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: You're miserable, you cannot stay in this dynamic because you

842
00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 3: don't want to have that conversation.

843
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:00,359
Speaker 2: And I just like, stop showing up for work one day.

844
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:04,799
Speaker 3: You're like, but it took me a really long time

845
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,799
Speaker 3: to get to that and work up the courage. But

846
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 3: it's the same thing as boundaries, Like I remember the

847
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 3: first time I sat a boundary, I sobbed, like I

848
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 3: stopped and it was so gentle, like it really wasn't even.

849
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,960
Speaker 1: Like a hard boundary, but it was so hard.

850
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 3: You stop, and now I just dole them out like

851
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 3: they're nothing, you know, or just I know what they

852
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:25,479
Speaker 3: I don't know. It's just so different. But the hard

853
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,640
Speaker 3: conversation thing, it took me so long to work up

854
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 3: to it, and then once it was over, I felt

855
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 3: at peace because I had stayed with myself to do

856
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 3: that obviously, And so then once you feel that feeling,

857
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 3: you understand, Okay, it's hard for a second, like, yes,

858
00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 3: I'm about to walk through some fire, but on the

859
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,439
Speaker 3: other side it's going to be okay, and I'm gonna

860
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: be okay. Yeah, I have a nice fucking tan because

861
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: I walked real close to the fire. And and then

862
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 3: it's like with more practice, it just gets easier and

863
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 3: you just know what the outcome will make.

864
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: You feel like, especially you stay with yourself.

865
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 3: To me, the key is always like, if I'm with

866
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:06,520
Speaker 3: myself hard things become so much easier, even if they're

867
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 3: still really difficult, I know I can get through it

868
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 3: and get to the other side.

869
00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 2: Well it's I mean, if you really think about it,

870
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:14,319
Speaker 2: it's so much easier being like, hey, yeah, no, that

871
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,359
Speaker 2: does not work for me, versus being like, oh yeah, sure,

872
00:41:17,400 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 2: I'll do that and then like having to spend the

873
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 2: week being like, why the fuck did I say yes,

874
00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:24,160
Speaker 2: it's exact and then and then you're like okay, then

875
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 2: you want to cancel, and then you've upset them, like

876
00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: when you could have just been like, yeah, I'm not

877
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:28,799
Speaker 2: feeling that.

878
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 3: It's so much better just to be honest. And I

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Speaker 3: swear to God, I think people just trust you more

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Speaker 3: when you're even if you're not doing everything you want

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Speaker 3: they want you to do, they ultimately trust you more

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Speaker 3: because they know if you don't want to do it,

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Speaker 3: you're gonna say no, and they know if it's not

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Speaker 3: true for you, you're not gonna say it. Is like that,

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Speaker 3: It just really does make people trust you more. But

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Speaker 3: I think we have it warped in our heads or

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Speaker 3: we've just never been taught that like that's okay, Like yeah,

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Speaker 3: letting someone down is okay because it's honest. Even if

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Speaker 3: it hurts temporarily, most people will get over it if

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Speaker 3: it's true for you or whatever. So anyway, all of

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Speaker 3: that is what's coming up with some of these themes.

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Speaker 3: There's much more in the Astrology podcast, so go check

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Speaker 3: that one out with Marv and if you want to

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Speaker 3: get in contact with me or Chip. You can always

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Speaker 3: email us at the Edge at velvetsedge dot com or

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Speaker 3: you can hit me up on Instagram.

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Speaker 2: I'm at Velvet Edge, Chip, I'm at Chip doorsh It's

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Speaker 2: Chip d r sch.

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Speaker 3: You can also follow our Velvet Edge podcast Instagram. It's

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Speaker 3: at Velvet's Edge podcast at Velvet Edge podcast. That's one word,

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Speaker 3: so altogether, no pauses, no pauses, no breaks anyway. Okay,

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Speaker 3: as you guys go into the weekend and you're living

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Speaker 3: on the edge, I hope you always remember too.

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Speaker 2: Act catulo, Bye bye,