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Speaker 2: We have a look of Welcome back to the solid

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Speaker 2: verbal boys and girls. My name is Ty Hildebrand, joining

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Speaker 2: me as always over there in beautiful Chicago, Illinois. Dan Rubinstein, sir,

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Speaker 2: how you doing today? I'm great, Ty.

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Speaker 3: I just loaded up SpaceNews dot com because I feel

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Speaker 3: like the UFO has not gotten spacey enough. Okay, we

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Speaker 3: show BIT. And we have a lot of news to

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Speaker 3: get to with regard to coaching hires and fires and

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Speaker 3: of you know, assistant HighRes. You know, just a lot

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Speaker 3: of movement in the sport right around now. I'd like

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Speaker 3: to first enter into this news orbit.

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Speaker 2: That's right, space term.

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Speaker 3: These are the five most read space stories from SpaceNews

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Speaker 3: dot com. Just react to me organically. You don't have

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Speaker 3: the background with any of these things, right right, You haven't.

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Speaker 2: Looked no No, No.

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Speaker 3: Number five ten companies bid for NASA Small Launch Vehicle contract.

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Speaker 2: Okay, tie. All right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know about what any of that means. What

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Speaker 3: is a NASA small launch vehicle? I don't know. Is

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Speaker 2: I did read something about this on a oh okay

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Speaker 2: on one of my other sites. I think it's sort

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Speaker 2: I mean it seems cool, So I don't think I

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Speaker 2: Fair enough.

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Speaker 3: Number four Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico, the Puerto Rican government.

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Speaker 2: I believe that's the big radio telescope that was damaged.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so telescope observatory radio signal receiver giver.

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Speaker 2: I feel like, look, if there's something out there and

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Speaker 2: get this guy back online. So I am found to

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Speaker 2: go on your honeymoon?

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Speaker 3: Where did you go on your honeymoon?

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Speaker 2: Jamaica? Jamaica?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, if you found out that you were going to

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Speaker 3: you got married fifteen fifteen, would you have tried to

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Speaker 3: I don't think solely because of that, but you get

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Speaker 3: would Kate have given you an indulging you.

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Speaker 3: So well, hold on, ty, I have a segue. Oh

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Speaker 2: What else do we have in the coaching world, Dan,

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Speaker 2: two recently dismissed NFL guys. Bill O'Brien obviously had a

435
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Speaker 2: bit of a very limited run at Penn State, I think,

436
00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: a pretty successful run in the college ranks. Has notably

437
00:23:54,760 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: been a really bad personnel guy in the NFL. So

438
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 2: the joke among me and many of my friends texting

439
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: about Penn State topics was if Saban can rehabilitate Bill O'Brien,

440
00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 2: he can pretty much do it for anybody.

441
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Speaker 3: I mean, I think both of those guys would succeed

442
00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 3: like crazy as an Alabama offensive coordinator, having talent advantage

443
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 3: every week, having an infrastructure where you're not counted on

444
00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:21,240
Speaker 3: for your day to day vision for a football program

445
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 3: or franchise. I think they're both proven, really strong offensive minds.

446
00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 3: Like if Penn State were to hire Chip Kelly as

447
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 3: their offensive coordinator, you'd.

448
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Speaker 2: Be over the moon, wouldn't you. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

449
00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 3: He had his own personnel issues with what the Eagles

450
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 3: and the forty nine ers. I think he was just

451
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Speaker 3: the coach of the forty nine ers and is rebuilding

452
00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,840
Speaker 3: the UCLA program and it seems to be improving. But yeah,

453
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Speaker 3: to not have to worry, I mean this is basically,

454
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Speaker 3: did you work retail in high school?

455
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Speaker 2: Tie?

456
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Speaker 3: Did you work in a restaurant or I worked clothing

457
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Speaker 3: store or anything.

458
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Speaker 2: I worked at a pool. I was the guy at

459
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Speaker 2: the register that would charge people day passes to go

460
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Speaker 2: to the municipal pool.

461
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Speaker 3: Hmm, okay, yeah that's not retail. But yeah, I understand

462
00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: what you're talking about. It's related somewhat. But like Nick

463
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,240
Speaker 3: Saban has talked about this with regard to offensive coordinators,

464
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 3: like we're doing what we do here.

465
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: We're going to teach you.

466
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Speaker 3: How we do things when we hire you to be

467
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Speaker 3: a coach. When we hire you to be a coordinator.

468
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:23,520
Speaker 3: You can bring wrinkles, you can you're in the conversation,

469
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 3: but this is the framework of how we're operating here.

470
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,640
Speaker 3: And so if you go and work at the Gap,

471
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Speaker 3: it's cool that you used to work at Abercrombie, but

472
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,760
Speaker 3: this is how we fold close at the gap, this

473
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Speaker 3: is how we greet customers. And I think it's the

474
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 3: same thing there. And so I think Bill O'Brien, with

475
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Speaker 3: what he did at Penn State, given the restrictions in

476
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Speaker 3: place there, what Adam Gase, I suppose he had a

477
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 3: lot of success before he was saddled with a ton

478
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Speaker 3: of responsibility. I think they'll succeed wildly if those are

479
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 3: you know, some of the options that we're talking about.

480
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Speaker 3: There could be somebody else new as well. Quickly, as

481
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Speaker 3: it relates to Don Brown, I'm curious to see how

482
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Speaker 3: the distance perform because one of the changes at Michigan

483
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 3: this year was they lost both Greg Madison, and I

484
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: think it's Al Washington. Madison up front and now Washington

485
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: the linebackers coach. And I think a coordinator is only

486
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,879
Speaker 3: as good as the position coaches he works with, and

487
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,120
Speaker 3: helps to teach his system and how he wants players

488
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,920
Speaker 3: on each level. On each level, Todd, I know Chuck

489
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,280
Speaker 3: Cecil is going back, as you know, he has a

490
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 3: long Arizona tized. He's coaching the secondary and so we'll see.

491
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 3: We'll see, because Don Brown can have a brilliant scheme

492
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Speaker 3: for PAC twelve teams, but if everybody's on different pages,

493
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Speaker 3: like it seemed like the Michigan defense was this year,

494
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Speaker 3: I don't know how much of a difference it means,

495
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 3: but his ceiling certainly very very high. Texas make moves. Yeah,

496
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: thoughts about Texas well.

497
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Speaker 2: Speaking of Texas, what I what I wrote down is

498
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: that they reportedly offer the job to musch Champ, the

499
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 2: defensive coordinator job. I am very special, shift shift, very specific.

500
00:26:57,320 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 2: They hired Sark. Sark's got the game left on Monday one.

501
00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: We're going to be live streaming and putting his staff together.

502
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,240
Speaker 2: Reportedly looked at mush Champ, recently dismissed from South Carolina,

503
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 2: formerly defensive coordinator at Texas, and he turned it down,

504
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 2: which is notable. Yeah. Yeah, it's tough to go back.

505
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 3: It's tough to go back sometimes to a place a

506
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 3: job you already held, but the staff is coming together.

507
00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,160
Speaker 3: He's reported to be bringing at least a couple guys

508
00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 3: from Alabama with him the receivers coach. He's keeping Stan

509
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 3: dray in the running backs coach. At Texas. Kyle Flood,

510
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 3: who's done a really strong job, is the rumored offensive

511
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:43,880
Speaker 3: coordinator slash offensive line coach, but more I think it's

512
00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 3: going to be Sark's fingerprints and calling the plays on

513
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: offense for Texas. We'll see, but certainly I think I

514
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: saw Bo Davis involved in the defensive line, who was

515
00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: at Texas a while back, about a decade ago, has

516
00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 3: been at Alabama, has been in the NFL. Names in

517
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,639
Speaker 3: the coaching world for sure, and Texas recently, I believe

518
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 3: let their strength coach go, So that'll be another hire

519
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 3: as well for the Sark program. So exceedingly curious to

520
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,440
Speaker 3: see how all of that works out. I did see

521
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:18,120
Speaker 3: within that same state Kellen Mond declare oh yeah yeah

522
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,439
Speaker 3: for the NFL Draft. I don't know what his future

523
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 3: looks like in the NFL, but certainly had an upward

524
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 3: trajectory at Texas A and M and finished on a

525
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 3: very high note. So I'm curious to see. But whatever

526
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Speaker 3: whatever happens. Definitely an impressive dude overall.

527
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Speaker 2: No for sure, for sure. What other notable things are

528
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:40,520
Speaker 2: going on around college football? We did have some draft declarations.

529
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Speaker 2: Maybe we could run through any notable ones outside of

530
00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. The Boise State job is open. Obviously fascinating process. Yeah,

531
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Speaker 2: by virtue of Brian Harson leaving to go to Auburn.

532
00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:00,600
Speaker 2: Kellen Moore declined, but according to Troy Aikman, access was

533
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 2: on a broadcast, this was wild. Yeah, he was, he was.

534
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: He accepted, but couldn't reach an agreement on the details

535
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:11,800
Speaker 2: related to program commitment whatever that means. So Kellen Moore

536
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 2: would have been a ball or higher for Boise State.

537
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: Some of the candidates out there, your boy Andy Avolos

538
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: from Morgan, Brian Johnson from Florida, Graham Harrell in the mix,

539
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 2: any other names that I'm missing there.

540
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:32,720
Speaker 3: Jeff Choate from Montana State, who was pretty well regarded,

541
00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:36,480
Speaker 3: was an assistant I believe under the Chris Peterson time

542
00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 3: at Boise and has done pretty well at Montana State.

543
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 3: It's a fascinating job just because it's a headline non

544
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 3: Power five, you know, the Mountain West and football I

545
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 3: think it's taken a step back in recent years, but

546
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 3: still Boise State is synonymous with huge national success from

547
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 3: a non Power five program, So you know, the commitment issues.

548
00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 3: You know, Brian Harson had talked about that, there were

549
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 3: reports about Brian Harrison's feelings about how committed Boise State

550
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 3: was to big time football and exploring going independant or

551
00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 3: joining the American And you know, it's a tough place

552
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: that a couple of pretty outstanding coaches in you know,

553
00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:17,120
Speaker 3: Dan Hawkins, Chris Peterson, Brian Harrison for sure, you know,

554
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: have done a really admirable job there, but you know,

555
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 3: not in the center of the college football world. And

556
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 3: you know, if they're not sinking funds into assistant pools

557
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 3: and facilities, it's an even more uphill battle. And so

558
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: Kellen Moore, from a position of strength as the Cowboys

559
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 3: right the Cowboys offensive coordinator, I have to assume because

560
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:43,479
Speaker 3: he's from Eastern Washington, I believe, and had so much

561
00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: success in Boise that it's on some level some kind

562
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 3: of dream to return and coach that school. But it

563
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,640
Speaker 3: don't need the job if they're not going to be

564
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: reportedly as invested in it as you are.

565
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Speaker 2: So fascinating stuff.

566
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Speaker 3: And I might be true of Andy Avolos too, considering

567
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 3: how much time he spent playing and coaching in Boise.

568
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 3: It seemed like that would be a terrific higher young

569
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,160
Speaker 3: up and comer. And you know, don't know if he'll

570
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: be there forever, but if he succeeds at Boise, you know,

571
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 3: on the PAC twelve, the big ten, whoever might come calling,

572
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 3: just like with what happened with Dan Hawkins and Chris

573
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 3: Peterson and Brian Harrison, so fascinating to watch. Sam Ellinger declared,

574
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 3: if we're going to go back to Texas.

575
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Sam Ellinger one was interesting. We had talked

576
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,600
Speaker 2: about his prospects at some point over the last couple

577
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 2: of weeks, and there was some speculation out there that

578
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: he might opt to come back to Texas. He was

579
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 2: considering his options, but we did see in the bowl

580
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: game some of what Texas has behind him. I don't

581
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: know if that influenced the decision at all, but Ellinger

582
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: decided to move on. Yeah, a bunch of names.

583
00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 3: USC is down a lot of big name guys, especially

584
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: in that secondary, especially up front on defense. Aman Ross

585
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: Saint Brown of course came men and five star and

586
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 3: lived up to the hype for the most part. A

587
00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 3: little beat up at times, but US seasoned me down

588
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 3: significant amount of talent. I saw Penn State down a

589
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 3: couple guys, of course, Michael Parsons before the season deciding

590
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 3: to opt out. We know about the LSU guys who

591
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 3: had opted out. But it's a in terms of recognizable

592
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:24,480
Speaker 3: names nationally, should be a pretty fascinating draft, I would agree.

593
00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 2: Okay, what else? What else is on your radar here?

594
00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: I'm curious.

595
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 3: I'm just curious to see how all the blanks get

596
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 3: filled in at a lot of these new places that

597
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 3: have hired new head coaches. You know what Clark Lee does.

598
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 3: I mean, did you see the Barton Simmons thing.

599
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,080
Speaker 2: Barton Simmons, Yeah, formerly of twenty four to seven Sports. Yeah,

600
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 2: did a great job helping anchor a lot of their

601
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:49,120
Speaker 2: recruiting coverage. Was hired as director of scouting something in

602
00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 2: that ILK from personnel head position. Yeah. Yeah, Clark Lee

603
00:32:53,680 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: is bringing him on the staff to assist in that effort,

604
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 2: which I think was lauded across the board, certainly in

605
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 2: ours among sports media and college football media. People were

606
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,640
Speaker 2: quick to point out the great job that Barton does

607
00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: and how he's so good at his job and to

608
00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: now take on this role. It definitely adds a little

609
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: bit of a different dimension to the early embers here

610
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 2: of the Clark League.

611
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,240
Speaker 3: Not the first person that has worked in college football

612
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:22,400
Speaker 3: media to be hired by a program, but certainly one

613
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: of the most high profile people played at Yale I believe,

614
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 3: and grew up playing with Clark Lee High School and

615
00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 3: most notably is a college football podcasters correct who now

616
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 3: has an important position at an SEC football program. So yeah, curious.

617
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Speaker 3: I mean, the Vanderbilt struggles talent wise are very real

618
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 3: because of the academic element of things, where they're not

619
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:50,200
Speaker 3: a national program that can pick the very best kids

620
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: who have an incredible amount of football ability and have

621
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Speaker 3: good enough grades like a program like Notre Dame. And

622
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Speaker 3: I saw I think it was Bud Elliott, who I

623
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 3: think now used to podcast with Barton has talked about

624
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 3: and is not the only one, is not the first

625
00:34:03,960 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: to talk about some of the struggles that Vanderbilt has

626
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 3: in the South with you know how good or not

627
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 3: so good public schools seem to be that you know,

628
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 3: kids would love to play in the SEC, but you

629
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 3: know grades. It's getting into Vanderbilt. Say, it's a tough thing, ty,

630
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,560
Speaker 3: I can tell you that as somebody who would have

631
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 3: come nowhere near getting into van else coming out of

632
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 3: high school nowhere in the vicinity in the universe of

633
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: getting into a place like Notre Dame, Vanderbilt, Stanford kind

634
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 3: of thing.

635
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 2: So uphill battle.

636
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 3: But you know, recruitings about relationships, and I have to

637
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 3: assume somebody like Barton knows high school coaches all around

638
00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 3: the country, knows evaluators, seven on seven coaches, you know,

639
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,840
Speaker 3: knows the people on the ground that you know, know

640
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 3: when a kid is a you know, everybody has diamonds

641
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 3: in the rough, right, but like knows when a kid

642
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: should be a four star but was hurt or has

643
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 3: been moving high schools or you know, there's all sorts

644
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 3: of reasons why you know, somebody can get overlooked and

645
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: he has decent enough grades. And Vanderbilt makes sense. So

646
00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 3: a the stronger Vanderbilt means a deeper major conference.

647
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna like it.

648
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,040
Speaker 3: I'm gonna like it if it happens anywhere in the country.

649
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: But yeah, that would be quite fun for the SEC

650
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 3: East for Vanderbilt to become a bigger threat and to

651
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Speaker 3: find those diamonds in the rough because it's it's not

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Speaker 3: difficult to attract people to Nashville as a city, great place.

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Speaker 3: I don't know how much time you've spend in Nashville time,

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Speaker 3: not much, not much, A good time. It's a good time.

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Speaker 3: You can eat well, you can get around, lots of greenery. Tie,

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Speaker 3: I like it a lot.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, that does it? Fascinating news? Yeah? On

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Speaker 2: this year College Football show, have we decided what we're

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Speaker 2: naming the Friday Orbit today? That's the outstanding question. I

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00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,560
Speaker 2: was thinking updating too. Yeah, yeah, I think so. Can

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Speaker 2: you load up?

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Speaker 3: I just want because I don't know why. I just

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Speaker 3: I'm looking at all these names like find an Underclassman

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Speaker 3: NFL Draft tracker. Yeah, sure, I want you to load

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Speaker 3: one of those up.

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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 3: I just want you to start scrolling through and just

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Speaker 3: tell me who you're gonna miss. Who I'm like, who

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Speaker 3: you've been emotionally connected to in the college football world.

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00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 3: You're like, oh man, yeah, that's right, I have watched

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Speaker 3: him play for the last time in college. Like, well,

672
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 3: Talanoah who fung at USC, hard hitting safety all over

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Speaker 3: the field. I really liked watching him. I'm gonna miss

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Speaker 3: him at USC.

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Speaker 2: One name that I gosh, I think he's been declared

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Speaker 2: for a while. I could be wrong about this, but

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Speaker 2: I remember two years ago I was so high on

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Speaker 2: Andre Cisco from Syracuse. Yeah, and I know that he's

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Speaker 2: since declared for the draft, and you know, he's obviously

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Speaker 2: a prospect who who can't declare early. But man, that

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Speaker 2: that name, for whatever reason, jumped out to me. There's

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Speaker 2: a little bit of nostalgia there. Nostalgia there. Excuse me,

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Speaker 2: if only because I remember that I was pretty high

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Speaker 2: on him. But there are a lot of names on here,

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Speaker 2: you know. I mean, we've talked at nauseum about Kyle Pitts,

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Speaker 2: but certainly a guy like Caden Stern. I've talked about

687
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Speaker 2: the safety position before for Texas's guy you mentioned USC.

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Speaker 2: Tyler Vaughns. I don't think you mentioned him.

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Speaker 3: No, Oh, Man, Tyler Vaughns is a Brandon Lloyd All Star. Yeah,

690
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:20,000
Speaker 3: dropped some of the easy stuff, catches the impossible stuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he was very fun, made a lot of plays for

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Speaker 3: the Trojans. We've got a bunch of other names in

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Speaker 3: this list.

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Speaker 2: Joseph M. Chase, Oh, oh Si Sure. Jamar Chase I

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Speaker 2: think is probably a top ten pick. Is that true.

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Speaker 2: I haven't looked at mock drafts lately. Yeah, could be

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Speaker 2: the first or one of the first receivers off the board.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he's the first, but you know,

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Speaker 2: there's certainly a lot of interest in what he can do.

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00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: He opted out of the season, so we haven't seen

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Speaker 2: him in a while. I see Trey Lance is on

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Speaker 2: this list now. Most of what we do is FBS.

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00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,319
Speaker 2: We're not necessarily following North Dakota State. We do feel

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Speaker 2: like we've got a kinship with North Dakota State after

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Speaker 2: having gone up there for the playoff game a couple

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Speaker 2: of years ago. But but Trey Lance is an interesting name.

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Speaker 2: He's been getting a ton of hype in the build

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Speaker 2: up to this draft. And I'm not talking about like

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Speaker 2: the last couple of weeks. Literally the last year, Trey

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Speaker 2: Lance has been a name that's pretty high on these

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Speaker 2: draft boards. Didn't get to see much of him this year, either,

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Speaker 2: But how he computes his skills into the next level

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Speaker 2: is of interest to me, if only because everyone's trying

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Speaker 2: to be the more successful version of Carson Wentz at

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Speaker 2: this point and Lance comes from the same program.

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Speaker 3: Man, all these players on PITT that were just so

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Speaker 3: good upfront. I think it was Jalen Twyeman opted out

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Speaker 3: of the twenty twenty season. I remember he lost like

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Speaker 3: thirty forty pounds and became like this really mean interior

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Speaker 3: defensive line. I mean, he was so fun to watch

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Speaker 3: and I missed him just watching him this year. I mean,

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Speaker 3: same with Jamar Chase, I suppose, but it's not like

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Speaker 3: we would have seen the best of Jamar Chase, given

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Speaker 3: where LSU fell to quarterback wise because of injuries and

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Speaker 3: you know, just losing an all time quarterback and Joe Borrow.

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Speaker 3: But Jalen Twyman would have reaped absolute havoc in the

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Speaker 3: ACC and you know, guys like Paris Forward and Rashad

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00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:07,879
Speaker 3: Weaver like this would have been. I mean, it still

729
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Speaker 3: was a pretty good pit defense, but it had the

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Speaker 3: ceiling of being incredibly special. And you know, it's unfortunate

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Speaker 3: that Jalen Twyman opted out because I didn't.

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Speaker 2: Get to see him.

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Speaker 3: I understand why he did, but yeah, I'm definitely gonna

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Speaker 3: miss the best of him in the.

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Speaker 2: College football world. All Right.

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Speaker 3: I think that's all anybody else that's on your list.

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Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, we didn't get Michael Parsons this year.

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Speaker 2: I'm scrolling through.

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Speaker 3: I misschewe A Hubbard. Yeah he was beat up and

740
00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 3: really wasn't the same this year. But yeah he falls

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Speaker 3: under that Bryce love like at any moment categorization.

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Speaker 2: I really liked watching him. All right, I think that's

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Speaker 2: all I got. That's all I got. The updating Friday Orbit,

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Speaker 2: Updating Friday Orbit. Look, we are going to be back

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Speaker 2: on Monday, and we're gonna be doing a live so

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Speaker 2: stay tuned to all of our social channels. If you

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Speaker 2: subscribe to the newsletter, we'll maybe we'll send something out

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Speaker 2: on Monday during the day to remind people where they

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Speaker 2: can watch and how that's going to go down. But

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Speaker 2: excited about the National Championship. If you have not yet

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00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: had a chance to go out there and listen to

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Speaker 2: our preview show, we dropped that on Wednesday, just go

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Speaker 2: to the website solidverbo dot com. You can find all

754
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 2: the info there on not only downloading the show, but

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Speaker 2: subscribing so that you make sure you get all of

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Speaker 2: our content all throughout the off season. Agree. Oh, here

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 3: Here's one tie Hendon Hooker is going to Tennessee. Oh, okay,

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Speaker 3: Henden Hooker. That's good Tennessee. Maybe maybe, I hope.

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Speaker 2: So for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein.

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Speaker 2: For myself, Ty Hilton Grant will talk to y'llson. In

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Speaker 2: the meantime, stay solvent, Peace,