1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,280 Speaker 1: Can't. I am six forty. You're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 2: App Lou Penrose in for John Cobalt this week. Good 4 00:00:08,760 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: to have you along with us. 5 00:00:09,720 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 3: A big day, lots of celebration here in the United 6 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 3: States and certainly in the Middle East, and a lot 7 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 3: of discussion about the path forward now that there is 8 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 3: a ceasefire and exchange of individuals. We got the hostages back, 9 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 3: they got a bunch of terrorists back. 10 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: We'll talk a little bit more about that. 11 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:32,560 Speaker 3: But there's certainly areas to critique and criticize this whole deal, 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 3: and I don't want to rain on the parade. I'm 13 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:41,559 Speaker 3: not optimistic, and I'm just happy that we have the 14 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 3: twenty hostages that are still living back, But I'm just 15 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:50,080 Speaker 3: eager for some accountability and justice because they were more 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:56,160 Speaker 3: than twenty when we started. ABC News' Jordannah Miller is 17 00:00:56,240 --> 00:00:59,080 Speaker 3: in Jerusalem. We'll get her on here in just a moment. 18 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,280 Speaker 3: But Trump certainly doing a victory lap and he's on 19 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 3: his way home, and I think that's good. I'm glad 20 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 3: that there is a cease fire. There needs to be 21 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 3: a lot of rebuilding in the area. But there's still 22 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 3: a lot of hurt feelings and a lot of injustice 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:17,839 Speaker 3: that took place two years ago. 24 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: And I just don't think. 25 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 3: I don't think we have an unconditional surrender, and I 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: want an unconditional surrender. And I don't think this is fair, 27 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 3: Like it's not even they talk about. 28 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,039 Speaker 2: You know, the war in the Middle East and the ceasefire. 29 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 2: This is not equal. 30 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 3: What happened to Israelis was murder and terrorism and now 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 3: everyone's just happy to lay down the rifles and lay 32 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,520 Speaker 3: down the weapons. And I just don't I don't think 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: it's fair, and I don't think it's justice. 34 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 2: And I'm happy that we've taken. 35 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 3: It this far, so at least there's a ceasefire, but 36 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 3: I think a lot more justice needs to be served. 37 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 3: That there are still Hamas people issuing press release like 38 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: that is amazing. I've read this morning a statement issued 39 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 3: by Hamas. I'm like, who are these people issuing these statements? 40 00:02:16,320 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 3: And why are they not in prison? Why are we 41 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: allowing them to issue statements, Why are we reading these statements? 42 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 3: Why why don't we just get them? Do we have 43 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 3: a Jordana Miller with us? Okay, very good, Yeah, she's 44 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: in Jerusalem. I'm sure it's a busy day over there too, 45 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 3: in the world of news. I'm watching all this footage 46 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 3: and they're very, very happy in Tel Aviv, and that's fine, 47 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 3: and I suspect that they are happy in Gaza. I 48 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 3: see a lot of people walking around. It doesn't look 49 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 3: like a very good place. It looks like there's going 50 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 3: to be a lot of infrastructure rebuilding going on over 51 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 3: the weeks and months to come. Just basic structures are 52 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:56,640 Speaker 3: not there, so I don't know what's going on with 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,680 Speaker 3: respect to water, and. 54 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:03,040 Speaker 2: Just look like a long road ahead, all right. 55 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 3: Jordana Miller is ABC News correspondent in Jerusalem. 56 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for hopping on with us. We appreciate it. 57 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 2: What is the mood there today? 58 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 4: Euphoric, surreal, elated. I mean, I think it's been a 59 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 4: day filled with emotions. And you know, to see twenty 60 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:32,800 Speaker 4: living hostages come out of the Gaza strip that Hamas 61 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:36,640 Speaker 4: did in fact turn over according to the deal that 62 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 4: they find the President Trump broker to see them follow 63 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: through and turn over the hostages and free them after 64 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 4: two years of hell. I mean, these hostages, all of 65 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 4: them men, you know, they came out defiant, though I 66 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 4: have to say most of them quite thin. But I 67 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 4: think it's such a real it almost feels like a 68 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 4: collective sense of relief that you know, there are no 69 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 4: longer Israelis being starved and tortured and abused and chained 70 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 4: in tunnels because the hostage crisis has been an open 71 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: wound for Israeli throughout this whole war, right, I mean, 72 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: Hamas succeeded, in quotation marks in kidnapping two hundred and 73 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,800 Speaker 4: fifty one citizens. And it's a lot, and it's you know, 74 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 4: and it was, as you know, it was a brutal war. 75 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 4: And I think people are just elated that this many 76 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 4: hostages that were presumed to be alive were in fact alive, 77 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 4: and then Hamas actually turned them over and freedom. There 78 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 4: are still twenty four bodies that Hamas is holding, including 79 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 4: the bodies of two Americans they did turnover as well 80 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 4: today are free or turnover really four bodies of hostages 81 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 4: that are being identified right now at the Israeli Forensic Institute. 82 00:05:11,920 --> 00:05:15,359 Speaker 3: You mentioned that this has been broker Who are we 83 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,800 Speaker 3: brokering with? Who is in charge on the Hamas side? 84 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 3: I mean, where how are we able to be in 85 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 3: touch with them and have these kinds of discussions. 86 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:37,479 Speaker 4: Great, so Hamas is essentially represented by Cutter and the 87 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 4: Egypt those are the two main mediators, and so we've 88 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 4: actually made the United States has actually made a deal 89 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 4: with Egypt and Cutter about you know, over Hamas. It's 90 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 4: not a direct deal with Hamas. So it does turn 91 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 4: out that President Trump, on various occasions his team did 92 00:05:58,320 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 4: reach out and have direct negotiations with Hamas. But the 93 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 4: deal itself is one between you know, Israel, Israel, the 94 00:06:07,839 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 4: United States and some of these regional partners Hamas didn't 95 00:06:12,000 --> 00:06:17,440 Speaker 4: find on the dotted line. But Hamas is you know, 96 00:06:17,480 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 4: they're now in a very weak position, and they're patrons 97 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 4: which used to be places like Qatar, in Iran, Syria, 98 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 4: you know, are either unwilling or unable to really back 99 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 4: them the way they once did. And I think that's 100 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 4: in great part because of the success as all had 101 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 4: during this war on the other fronts fighting Husbalah, pushing 102 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:48,040 Speaker 4: them back far off of Israel's northern border, and of 103 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 4: course the war with Iran, which Israel did significant damage 104 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 4: in a very short amount of time, and the help 105 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,799 Speaker 4: of the United States and hitting the Iranian nuclear site 106 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 4: as well as the fall of you know, Asad's regime 107 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 4: in Syria. There's been tremendous changes since October sixth, and 108 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 4: I think all of that has put Hamas really in 109 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 4: the doghouse, isolated, and so it's it's being forced by 110 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 4: it's one time Patriots patrons to give up the game. 111 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: That's what they did essentially in this deal. 112 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 3: That does sound like a good position for us to 113 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: be in going forward. ABC News correspondent Jordana Miller, thanks 114 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 3: so much for for coming on with us. 115 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:37,880 Speaker 2: We appreciate it. 116 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 3: When we come back, I have to express why I'm 117 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 3: not optimistic. 118 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: I really have mixed feelings about this. 119 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 3: I am certainly elated and certainly happy that innocent life 120 00:07:51,320 --> 00:07:55,600 Speaker 3: has been preserved what what what there's left of it, 121 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 3: But there just hasn't been retribution for October sixth, and 122 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 3: I think there needs to be. Louke Penrose in for 123 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: John coblt on The John Cobolt Show. 124 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 125 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 5: six forty. 126 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: Louke Penrose info John Coblt on The John coblt Show. 127 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 3: Good to be with you this afternoon. Mixed emotions and 128 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:23,760 Speaker 3: I'm hesitant. I'm happy that we got the hostages back. 129 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 3: That we had to get the hostages back makes me 130 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 3: unhappy because we're still dealing with the same people. 131 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: So let's just be brutally honest. 132 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,599 Speaker 3: First, if none of the hostages were alive and you 133 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: learned that this morning, would you have been surprised. You'd 134 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 3: be shocked and saddened, for sure, But would you be 135 00:08:46,600 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 3: surprised And the answer is no, you wouldn't be surprised 136 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: because we're dealing with horrible people. 137 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: These are murderers. And it's been two years and there 138 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,080 Speaker 2: has been no. 139 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 3: Sub group of self described Palestinians, whether they're here in 140 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 3: the United States or whether they're in Western Europe or anywhere. 141 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: There has been no subgroup that has denounced what took 142 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 3: place on October sixth, like it's never happened. I've never seen, 143 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:22,119 Speaker 3: not one, not one group of individuals that identify themselves 144 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: as Palestinian, whether they're in the Middle East or here 145 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: in the United States, or here in southern California on 146 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 3: college campuses everywhere you see they're calling for Intafada. Nobody 147 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 3: has ever said, hey, those people are terrorists, those are 148 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 3: terrible people that should not have happened. They don't represent us. 149 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 3: So I have to draw the conclusion that whether you 150 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 3: are a Palestinian terrorist or a Palestinian terrorist sympathizer, you're 151 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: not sad that all those innocent lives were taken. And 152 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: that's not cool. I'm not good with that. 153 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 2: First and. 154 00:10:03,679 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: Second point that needs to be made. This is not 155 00:10:06,559 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 3: a war. It wasn't a war. Soldiers fight in wars. 156 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 3: These terrorists went into Israel and slaughtered innocent civilians, not soldiers. 157 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,959 Speaker 3: This wasn't a prisoner exchange. We got back innocent hostages. 158 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:30,080 Speaker 3: And by the way, we released a number of terrorists, 159 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 3: some of them were serving a life sentence because they're 160 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 3: very horrible people. And I cease fire and ending of 161 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 3: the war and everybody cheering it adds something to a 162 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,839 Speaker 3: moral equivalence of both sides, and it just isn't there. 163 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 2: I have been watching this go on now my entire 164 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 2: adult life. 165 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: You know, it's amazing that the Nobel Prize just came out, 166 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 3: and not only did it not go to President Trump, 167 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 3: and it didn't go to anybody that was brokering this, 168 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 3: the ceasefire in the Middle East. All of a sudden 169 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 3: now they have some woman in Venezuela that needed the 170 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:11,680 Speaker 3: Nobel Peace Prize. My entire life, everybody in the Middle East, 171 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 3: that's all that happened. I mean, and I mean whether 172 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: on war sadat knock Embagan, it's Akrabin. I mean Jimmy Carter. 173 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 3: Growing up as a kid, I would come home from 174 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 3: school and watch television and literally every day of my 175 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:29,960 Speaker 3: life President Carter was shaking hands with somebody from Egypt 176 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 3: and somebody from Israel, and they were all excited that 177 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 3: Camp David Accords. That's all you ever heard about. You 178 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,640 Speaker 3: You would have thought there was nothing going on in 179 00:11:36,640 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 3: the United States. The whole job of the United States 180 00:11:39,800 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 3: president was shaking hands with somebody from Egypt and somebody 181 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:43,440 Speaker 3: from Israel. 182 00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:45,120 Speaker 2: That's all President Carter ever did. 183 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 3: And they gave him the Peace Prize, and all of 184 00:11:49,840 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 3: a sudden, now we have one of the most destabilizing 185 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 3: times in the Middle East, and the Nobel Prize Committee 186 00:11:59,880 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: for about the Middle East they had to go find 187 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:07,320 Speaker 3: some woman in South America. So whatever, I don't care. 188 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 3: I don't want the Nobel Peace Prize, but it's. 189 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 2: Interesting to me. 190 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: We just talked with Jordanah Miller and she said that 191 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: for the most part of Egypt is brokering or representing Hamas, 192 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 3: and correct me if I'm wrong. 193 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: Wasn't there a big fight between Egypt. 194 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,080 Speaker 3: And Israel in the seventies that we have to have 195 00:12:24,120 --> 00:12:27,000 Speaker 3: a great, big shaking of hands, you know, with the 196 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 3: egypt guy on the one side of the table and 197 00:12:28,960 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 3: the Israeli guy on the other side of the table, 198 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 3: and there's Jimmy Carter in the middle doing the three 199 00:12:32,280 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 3: way handshake. So these probably aren't the right people to. 200 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: Be brokering peace with. 201 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 3: But I want to go back to that first point, 202 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 3: and that is there is no justice nobody in this 203 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 3: community of Palestinian Americans or Palestinian Europeans or Palestinian Palestinians, 204 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:02,599 Speaker 3: Like nowhere in this community is there any regrets, Like 205 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 3: these people were route for the killing of children. So 206 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 3: I don't know why you want to be friends with 207 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 3: these people. I don't know why we want to why 208 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 3: we would trust that they would keep the peace. Like 209 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 3: there's something very maniacal going on in that culture, and 210 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 3: I don't know what it is. And until we figure 211 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 3: it out, the best thing we can do is keep 212 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 3: them away from us. So I uh, I'm I'm I'm 213 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 3: just I'm I'm hesitant because these people, when you hear ceasefire, 214 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 3: they hear reload, and I just I'm not I don't 215 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 3: I don't understand why there are anybody like, why there 216 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:52,000 Speaker 3: are Hummas people like we should If that's true, if 217 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 3: they're being represented by Cutter and Egypt, then we should 218 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: direct the leadership of Cutter in Egypt to go get 219 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 3: them and deliver them to us. That's the unconditional surrender 220 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 3: that I'm looking for. That every person that identifies as 221 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 3: a member of Hamas or like Samaas, or is rooting 222 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: for Hamas, they need to be put behind bars in 223 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 3: Tel Aviv, no other way. So yeah, I mean, so yeah, 224 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 3: excuse me if I'm just not all that thrilled that 225 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: these people are allowed to just be They're allowed to 226 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 3: be free, they're allowed to live, and I just don't 227 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: think that that is justice and we are going to 228 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 3: get together and start rebuilding for them. There needs to 229 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:43,480 Speaker 3: be an atonement. There needs to be some kind of 230 00:14:44,360 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 3: shame that all these people that were cheering and rooting, right, 231 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 3: I mean, there were people in Gaza cheering that innocent 232 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 3: civilians were killed in Israel also saying people that were 233 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 3: cheering in hand out candy on September eleventh, when the 234 00:15:03,520 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: planes flew into the World Trade Center. There is footage 235 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 3: and you've seen it of people dancing in the streets 236 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 3: in Gaza and handing out little pieces of candy. These children, 237 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:16,320 Speaker 3: this is what we're dealing with. These are the kinds 238 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 3: of people we're dealing with. So I don't know how 239 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: you can have peace with them. Former House Speaker Newt 240 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 3: Gingridge famously said, when horrible people pledge to do horrible 241 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 3: things to you and post it on the internet in English, 242 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 3: the safest thing we can do is take them at 243 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,080 Speaker 3: their word. 244 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 2: And I think that's where we are. 245 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: So, yeah, there is a cease fire, Israel will move back, 246 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: but I think somebody's got to keep an eye on 247 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 3: these people and make sure that their leadership is just 248 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 3: completely obliterated. So that would be a so of celebration 249 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 3: for me. Unconditional surrender and everybody that is in Hamas 250 00:16:04,960 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 3: or identifies with Hamas or is rooting for Hamas, they 251 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 3: are either dead or in prison. 252 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:10,480 Speaker 2: That's peace. 253 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 3: Otherwise it's a constant threat, and it's these people. They 254 00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 3: don't target soldiers or army, barracks or army. They don't 255 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 3: even play fair. They go after children and women and 256 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 3: it's just that. And by the way, did anyone notice 257 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 3: that all twenty hostages that were alive and released today, 258 00:16:30,400 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 3: not a single woman. 259 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 2: That's kind of a terrifying reality. 260 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: All right, when we come back, it's day twelve federal 261 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,880 Speaker 3: government shut down. Today's a federal holiday anyway, so it's 262 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 3: nothing going on in DC anyway. But notice how we're 263 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 3: all fine. Notice how we're all still alive. Notice how 264 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: we all have health insurance and the federal government hasn't 265 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 3: been operating for twelve days. 266 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 2: We'll talk about it coming up next. Lou Penrose. If 267 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,720 Speaker 2: John Colebelt on the John Cobelt Show it. 268 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 5: You're listening to dude, John cobelts on demand from KFI 269 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:04,159 Speaker 5: A six forty. 270 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:06,880 Speaker 2: Lou Penrose sitting in for John Cobalt this week. Good 271 00:17:06,880 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: to be with you. 272 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,680 Speaker 3: It is day twelve of the federal government shutdown, and 273 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 3: everything's fine. The narrative that we were all going to 274 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 3: die was pretty hysterical, and it's been a dozen. 275 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,840 Speaker 2: Days and everybody's good. And this is the first budget 276 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: battle shut. 277 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 3: Down anything where the Republicans are actually winning the fight. 278 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,359 Speaker 2: Usually it's the other way around. 279 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 3: Usually we have to shut things down, and it's a 280 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 3: Democrat president and Republicans are always losing the fight and 281 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: then eventually have to put their tail between their legs 282 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,760 Speaker 3: and open up the federal government and give Democrats everything 283 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:51,439 Speaker 3: they want. This is the first time since I've been 284 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 3: watching federal government shutdowns going all the way back to 285 00:17:54,040 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 3: the nineties, where we are in a position of strength 286 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: because we want limited government. So it's okay with the 287 00:18:02,040 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 3: average Republican that non essential workers are not going to work. 288 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:09,120 Speaker 2: It helps make the point that you don't need non 289 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:10,679 Speaker 2: essential workers. 290 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: They're non essential, and the government is too big and 291 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 3: too bloated, and it's just impossible to pare down the 292 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: size of government. I have been promised by every Republican 293 00:18:23,480 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 3: presidential candidate since nineteen eighty that if elected, they will 294 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 3: reduce the size and scope of the federal government. It's 295 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:38,399 Speaker 3: been in every campaign speech. It's been every campaign promise 296 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:43,920 Speaker 3: of every Republican candidate for president and some Democrat candidates 297 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:47,800 Speaker 3: for president. In the nineties, Governor Bill Clinton wanted to 298 00:18:47,840 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: reduce the size and scope of the federal government. He 299 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: ran on the fact that DC issued to state's unfunded 300 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 3: mandates and he didn't like that. 301 00:18:58,600 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: So he too was a limited government guy. 302 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 3: He didn't decrease the size and scope of government, but 303 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 3: neither did any real Republican, not really. In nineteen eighty one, 304 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:15,640 Speaker 3: when Ronald Reagan gave his inaugural address, he famously said 305 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 3: government is not the solution to our problems. Government is 306 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 3: the problem. And he was right, and I said, hooray, 307 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 3: then go and limit it. And it's never happened. President 308 00:19:27,920 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 3: Trump has been president for two hundred and sixty six 309 00:19:31,480 --> 00:19:37,600 Speaker 3: days and he's literally eliminating thousands of federal employees, just 310 00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 3: reducing down the size of government because with the government 311 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 3: shut down, he can do that. Otherwise it's almost impossible, 312 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 3: almost impossible to reduce the size of government. Mostly you 313 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 3: have to wait for them to retire. A dozen years ago, 314 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,520 Speaker 3: there was a congressman in Orange County at a Newport 315 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 3: Beach called Chris Cox. And Chris Cox was nominated to 316 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 3: had the Security and Exchange Commission by then President Bush. 317 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:12,560 Speaker 3: And he vacated his congressional seat and went to Washington, 318 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,440 Speaker 3: and I remember like six months later he came back 319 00:20:15,480 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 3: to Orange County, Newport Beach, and there was a reception 320 00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,199 Speaker 3: for him and he was doing a Q and A 321 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: and I wondered, because he had been in Congress, but 322 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 3: this is the other side, this is the executive branch. 323 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 2: He's now in the cabinet. 324 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 3: And I said, what was what was your biggest surprise? Like, 325 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 3: what did you not expect, Congressman? He said, Lou, what's 326 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 3: most amazing about DC is that it's impossible to fire anybody. 327 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 3: Like I went to Washington to head up an agency 328 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 3: and I was gonna I'm a conservative, so I was 329 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 3: gonna run it leaner and meaner and get rid of 330 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 3: dead weight. 331 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,800 Speaker 2: And I realized that you can't. You literally cannot. 332 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:56,000 Speaker 3: Fire anybody in DC, Like you have to have to 333 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 3: have write ups, they have to have done something wrong, 334 00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 3: you have to have helped correct them. 335 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just just impossible. He said. 336 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:10,200 Speaker 3: You think when you, you know, get confirmed by the Senate 337 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,160 Speaker 3: and now you're running a cabinet post, you think you're 338 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: in charge, but you're really not in charge. You're presiding 339 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 3: over a dysfunctional bureaucracy. And it was I remember him 340 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 3: saying it, and he was very sincere in that he 341 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:29,600 Speaker 3: was really surprised, but it is true. 342 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 2: You can't fire DC people. It's impossible. 343 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: Like being drunk on the job needs to be remedied. 344 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 3: You can't say, you know what, you're drunk, go home 345 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 3: and never come back. Now you've got to prove because 346 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 3: alcoholism is a disease, you know, not a character flaw. 347 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: So you've got to help them. 348 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 3: If they don't turn in their work on time, you've 349 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 3: got to direct them. You have to do performance improvement plans, pips, 350 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 3: performance improvement plans. 351 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: You have to sit down with. 352 00:21:55,800 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 3: The terrible bureaucrat and help them better themselves and give 353 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 3: them training and give them all kinds of aid. Like 354 00:22:04,040 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 3: you can't just cut people loose because they suck. 355 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:10,400 Speaker 2: You as the manager. 356 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 3: Have to improve them and keep trying and keep trying 357 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 3: and keep trying. So it's really really good that we're 358 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 3: in a position now where President Trump can actually just 359 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: eliminate thousands of federal workers just to reduce the size 360 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 3: of government. I am in favor of reducing it all 361 00:22:31,760 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 3: the way to the point where if I need it, 362 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: we can hire people back. You know, Democrats never tell 363 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 3: you this. We could in fact hire people back on Friday, 364 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 3: like four hundred people from the Department of Housing and 365 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 3: Urban Development were separated and they're fired, not furloughed, fired, 366 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 3: And I remember thinking, all right, let's do another round 367 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:59,920 Speaker 3: of a couple hundred when it gets to the point 368 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 3: where I notice, gee, I really need more housing and 369 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,879 Speaker 3: urban development, So why don't we hire fifty housing in 370 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: urban Like, Let's keep going until we feel some kind 371 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: of this, you know, where our lives need more federal bureaucrats, 372 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 3: and then we'll hire them. 373 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: So that's that's where we're at right now. It is 374 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,679 Speaker 2: day twelve. 375 00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 6: House Speaker Mike Johnson, praising the Trump administration and Department 376 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 6: of War for making adjustments amid the government shutdown to 377 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 6: ensure troops don't miss their next paycheck. The Speaker also 378 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 6: defending his decision to keep lawmakers home for a third 379 00:23:35,080 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 6: straight week. 380 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, three weeks with members of Congress back in the district. 381 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 3: That no harm can come from that. I think having 382 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: Congress members home, talking the talking to their constituents and 383 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 3: finding out what life is like back in the congressional 384 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 3: district is probably the healthiest thing that members of Congress 385 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:57,080 Speaker 3: can do. So I think this is working out really well. 386 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: It's demonstrating to the broader American audience that non essential 387 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 3: government work is basically the Smithsonian and emptying the trash 388 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 3: cans at Yosemite National Park like that's it in federal courts, 389 00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:17,680 Speaker 3: and President Trump is figuring out a way to pay 390 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 3: the troops. So this is going to go on for 391 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 3: a while, and I think Democrats are going to have 392 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 3: to cave at some point. But in between until that 393 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 3: day comes, we are reducing the size and scope of 394 00:24:28,560 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 3: the federal government. And this is what limited government is about. 395 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,439 Speaker 3: It's returning authority and power back to the states and 396 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 3: the people. And we've been trying to do it since 397 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,080 Speaker 3: nineteen eighty and here we have a president that's done 398 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 3: more in two hundred and sixty six days than all 399 00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 3: the past presidential candidates from the Republican side combined. Louke 400 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: Penrose if John Cobelt on the John Cobelt Show. 401 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:58,639 Speaker 5: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 402 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 5: six forty. 403 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 3: Loup Penrose Info John Cobalt all this week, Thank you 404 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 3: for tuning in. 405 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 2: Good to have you along with us. 406 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 3: Coming up following the news at two o'clock, so the 407 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 3: governor signed SB seventy nine. You've been hearing John talk 408 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,560 Speaker 3: about it all last week. This is a very, very 409 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 3: bad thing for communities. And I hope you like apartment 410 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,920 Speaker 3: buildings because one's going up next to your house. And 411 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: it's just so wrong headed because it does nothing to 412 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 3: bring all the things they tell you it's going to do, 413 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 3: and it's gonna bring down the cost of housing. 414 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 2: Doesn't bring down the cost of housing. It puts people. 415 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 3: Where they don't want to be, and that is in 416 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 3: apartments next to transit centers. Nobody wants to be like that, 417 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 3: Like maybe you do in college, or maybe you do, 418 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,919 Speaker 3: you know, if you're a young person and you like 419 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 3: to take the train, but most people don't. And this 420 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 3: isn't Germany, and Democrat policymakers in California want to become 421 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 3: more and more like and we just don't have the infrastructure. 422 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 3: We don't want the infrastructure. This is California, for crying 423 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 3: out loud. We like our cars and we need more 424 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 3: parking spaces. So what they're gonna do is they're going 425 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 3: to allow apartments up to. 426 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: I heard eight stories, Yeah, eight stories. 427 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:27,360 Speaker 3: They're gonna allow you to if you're in the apartment 428 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 3: building business, go around whatever the city general plan is. 429 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,399 Speaker 3: You know, cities have planning commissions and then those planning 430 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 3: commissions report to the city council members, and cities spend an. 431 00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 2: Awful lot of time. 432 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 3: One of the things that cities do do well is planning. 433 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,320 Speaker 3: They're like, Okay, we want to have an industrial park 434 00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: over there, but we don't want the industrial park near 435 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 3: the schools, So we'll put the schools over there, and 436 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 3: then let's put a lot of you know, family houses, 437 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 3: you know, single family residences, because that's the kinds of 438 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 3: place that people live when they have kids in schools. 439 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 2: So it's put those homes over there. 440 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 3: And then you know, the downtown, that's where the young 441 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 3: people are, the hipsters, so we can put the apartments 442 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 3: there as long as we don't go too high and 443 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 3: block the view. 444 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 2: Like they literally. 445 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: Spend a lot of time zoning out the city and 446 00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 3: putting together the master plan. And this way they so 447 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,200 Speaker 3: much space is open space, so much space for parks, 448 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 3: so much space to develop, you know, when you want 449 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:28,120 Speaker 3: to put the airport way out there. Like, city planning 450 00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 3: is a thing, and in Sacramento they're just turning it 451 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:35,400 Speaker 3: on its head and basically taking the authority away from 452 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 3: the people who live in the city, to stick apartment 453 00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:47,520 Speaker 3: buildings near transit hubs, to force you to live in 454 00:27:47,560 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 3: an East German cinder block building and take the bus 455 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,560 Speaker 3: with a bunch of homeless people. And nobody wants to 456 00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 3: do that, but they're literally trying to force it on 457 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 3: because if it worked, you wouldn't need a law. 458 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:03,160 Speaker 2: Like if everyone just decided I. 459 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 3: Hate driving, I love these buses, then they would do 460 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 3: it naturally. 461 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 2: You wouldn't have to force a law. 462 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 3: And if city councils notice that, hey, everybody, no one 463 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 3: wants to live in a house anymore, everybody wants to 464 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: live in an eight story apartment building next to a 465 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 3: train station, then the market would just solve the problem. 466 00:28:23,720 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: But it doesn't because nobody wants to live like that. 467 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 3: Like you endure living like that until you actually have 468 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,160 Speaker 3: some success. And what's the first thing you do when 469 00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 3: you have some success. You move out into the suburbs 470 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: and live like a normal person. But democrats want you 471 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 3: in these in the projects, and they want you riding 472 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 3: on the buses. And now they're going to force the 473 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: projects next to your house. And the other problem with this, 474 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,760 Speaker 3: and this is my favorite part, so I'd work with 475 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 3: these people. I spent some time doing government affairs consulting, 476 00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 3: and the way this works just so you know, near 477 00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: a transit center, well what does that mean? Like in 478 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 3: your mind, you've already painted a picture of what a 479 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 3: transit center is, right, it's a union station, that's a 480 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 3: transit center. Well, frankly, a bus stop could be defined 481 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 3: as a transit center. And now what's happened is anybody 482 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: with a worthless piece of land that's undevelopable because it's 483 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: not near anything or doesn't just worthless piece of land. 484 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 3: And there are still some pieces of land in California, 485 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: believe it or not, that are not really that valuable. 486 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 3: All you have to do now is stick a stop, 487 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 3: a bus stop sign in front of this land, and 488 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 3: that land has that royal land just increased in value 489 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: by a factor of three. And guess who gets to 490 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 3: decide where the bus stops go? The mayors or city council. 491 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 3: But like all these mayors and city council members, they 492 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 3: all sit on local transportation commissions, and so they decide 493 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 3: where the new bus stops go. And every mayor in 494 00:30:06,320 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 3: southern California has a nair to well, brother in law 495 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,760 Speaker 3: with a worthless piece of land somewhere out in the sticks. 496 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,600 Speaker 3: But if you stick a bus stop in front of it, 497 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 3: now according to SB seventy nine, now it's an eight 498 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: story apartment building, start breaking dirt. So we will talk 499 00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 3: with crys Lagrapp on the latest on this. It's getting 500 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,000 Speaker 3: a lot of reaction. Now goes into law July one 501 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: of next year, and it was signed by Gavin Newsom, 502 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 3: so there's a lot of blowback on this. A lot 503 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 3: of people are hopping mad, including a lot of Democrat 504 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,880 Speaker 3: City council members, because it takes their authority away too, 505 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: and it's just designed to force you to leave your 506 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 3: car or sell your car. 507 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:52,800 Speaker 2: So it's just. 508 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 3: Another one of these environmentalist ideas where we're all just 509 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 3: going to ride a bike, we're all going to ride 510 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 3: on the train, we're all going to ride on some 511 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 3: kind of light rail, and we're all going to start 512 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,920 Speaker 3: pretending that we live in Europe. 513 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 2: And that's what they're constantly trying to do. Hey, it's 514 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 2: Columbus Day. 515 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 3: It's one of these weird holidays where almost everybody's off, 516 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: like schools are at least the schools my kids go 517 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:26,240 Speaker 3: to are open today. My wife's office is closed because 518 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: the banks are closed. I guess the banks and the 519 00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:32,640 Speaker 3: post offices are closed. It is still Columbus Day. President 520 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 3: Biden made it also Indigenous People's Day, so it's. 521 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 2: Really both holidays on the same day. 522 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 3: But it feels weird because everybody's kind of working, except 523 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 3: if you work for the government or the post office 524 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: or the bank. 525 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 7: Don't bother going to the post office. It's closed and 526 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 7: no home or business mail deliveries. Priority Mail Express is 527 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 7: available three hundred and sixty five days yere, including federal holidays. 528 00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 7: UPS and FedEx are open. 529 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 2: Per their websites. Branch is a major bank. 530 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,480 Speaker 7: It's like Capital One Bank of America, Wells Fargo, PNC, 531 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,960 Speaker 7: Truist City Bank, and JP Morgan Chase are closed. 532 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, all the banks are closed, so you can't conduct 533 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 3: any business. We need to straighten these kinds of holidays 534 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,720 Speaker 3: out this This is one of the biggest pet peeves 535 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,880 Speaker 3: of mine. Either it's a holiday or it's not, like, 536 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 3: let's just have holidays. When we have holidays, not like 537 00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:27,360 Speaker 3: state holidays, but they're not federal holidays or their federal holidays. 538 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,800 Speaker 3: But we changed the name. We could have had an 539 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 3: Indigenous People's Day. 540 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: And put it like in August. 541 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: August has no good holidays, so you should have at 542 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 3: least one three day week in a month. 543 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: That's the way you want to go. And I'm here to. 544 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:46,480 Speaker 3: Tell you, as a proud Italian American, I don't care 545 00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 3: like I've never I grew up Italian. 546 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: My whole family's the time. 547 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 3: My dad was born in Italy, and I never heard 548 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,200 Speaker 3: them mention Christopher Columbus once. So this idea that it's 549 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 3: a huge source of Italian American prom a little overplayed, 550 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: But the parade is fun. Lou Penrose Info John Coblt 551 00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 552 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:14,320 Speaker 1: Hey, you've been listening to the John Coblt Show podcast. 553 00:33:14,360 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 554 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 555 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: and of course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.