1 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: Welcome into Lounge presented by DraftKings. I'm Ryan Mink here 2 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: with Garrett Downing, and we are going to talk about 3 00:00:13,320 --> 00:00:18,880 Speaker 1: the huge, huge, reported news of the Ravens trade for 4 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:24,479 Speaker 1: Max Crosby, the superstar defensive end formerly of the Las 5 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: Vegas Raiders. The Ravens reportedly gave up two first round 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: picks in this deal, one in twenty twenty six here 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: and one next year in twenty twenty seven. This is 8 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: the first time in the Ravens franchise history that they 9 00:00:38,120 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: have traded a first round draft pick for a veteran player. 10 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 1: And they not only traded one, they traded two. So, Garrett, 11 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: I'll just start here. I think it's safe to say 12 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: this is the most aggressive move in Ravens franchise history 13 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,280 Speaker 1: and the biggest swing that they've ever taken. 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, let me just say I'm disappointed 15 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 2: that you didn't open the podcast for the breaking news. Like, 16 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: there's no bigger there's no podcast, emergency breaking news podcast 17 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:08,600 Speaker 2: that deserves the breaking news soundtrack from you more than 18 00:01:08,600 --> 00:01:09,040 Speaker 2: this one. 19 00:01:12,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 3: There. It is so yeah, I mean, this is this 20 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 3: is massive. 21 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 2: News breaks Friday night from multiple sources about this, this 22 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:28,200 Speaker 2: trade and this is a franchise altering type of move 23 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: with a game changing player, one of the best players 24 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 2: in football. And I'm not just saying this because of 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 2: this reported trade. I felt this way for a couple 26 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: of years that if you could ask take anybody in 27 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 2: the league, who would you want just you could pick 28 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,200 Speaker 2: a player forget like the compensation and the price and 29 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,000 Speaker 2: all that, just who would you want on the team. 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 2: And honestly, at the top of my list has been 31 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: Max Crosby. I think he's that good of a player. 32 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 2: He's a he's a tone setter. He affects the run game, 33 00:01:56,560 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: he affects the passing game, no question about that. And 34 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 2: if you have any question about what he can do, 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 2: just go back and watch the last time the Ravens 36 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:05,960 Speaker 2: played the Raiders in Baltimore, where he wrecked the game. 37 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 2: He wrecked that game two times, last two times. That's true, 38 00:02:09,360 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: that's true. But really the one that stands out to 39 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 2: me was that home opener in the twenty twenty four season. 40 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: And I don't think Lamar Jackson's ever been hit as 41 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 1: hard or many times as he was by Max Crosby 42 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: in that game. 43 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, and the and the Raiders were one of the 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: worst teams in. 45 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 2: The league that year, and you felt like, Okay, if 46 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 2: you just going into the game, just don't let Max 47 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: Crosby wreck the game. 48 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 3: You'll be all right, Well, guess what, he wrecked the game. 49 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: And then he did, and he did, and now he's 50 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 2: going to be on the Ravens side. 51 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 3: And like all the things that you think. 52 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 2: About, what do you need a closer, a game changer, 53 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 2: somebody who can affect the quarterback, Max Crosby is all 54 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 2: of those things. 55 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely, yeah, And I want to talk about Max, but 56 00:02:56,120 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: first some I want to talk about kind of what 57 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: this move says about the Ravens, because, like I said, 58 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,519 Speaker 1: first time in franchise history, like this is not in 59 00:03:04,760 --> 00:03:09,040 Speaker 1: the Ravens modus operantus, you know what I mean. And 60 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: so this to me is a clear statement of we've 61 00:03:13,480 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 1: had eight years with Lamar Jackson in this in this 62 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: Jackson era, the Lamar era haven't gotten to the super Bowl, 63 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: and we are going to maximize the rest of this era, right, 64 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 1: And it was. 65 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: Maximized an attentional pun there, Max. 66 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: With two xes with two exes, and and so yeah, 67 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean this is clearly a you know, the Ravens 68 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: have been a draft and developed team. 69 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 4: That's who they are. 70 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: And and Eric DeCosta has gone out and made some 71 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 1: splash moves. 72 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 4: You know, I think he's been. 73 00:03:49,720 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: Calculatedly measured aggressive, Uh you know as a GM. 74 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: This is just full on aggressive. Yeah. 75 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: And and it's and it's the right move. It's it's 76 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: worth he Max Crosby is worth the picks in my opinion. Right, 77 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: So it's not like it's like, oh my gosh, you 78 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: just try to sound picks and for for what you know, 79 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: you got to stud right, But like, this is not 80 00:04:13,080 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: how the Ravens have operated previously. And it's a clear 81 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 1: sign after a year that was disappointing and and kind 82 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: of given this this window of time that the Ravens 83 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: have with Lamar Jackson to get over the top, I 84 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: think it's a clear indication of yeah, we're going for it, right, 85 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: and we have Jesse Mintter. You know, it's been an 86 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: off season a change, right, John Harball out, Jesse Mintter in, 87 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: and we are going to take some swings at this thing. 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: The Ravens for sure have shown they are not afraid 89 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: to shake things up in order to turn this team 90 00:04:44,320 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 1: around and get to the super Bowl. 91 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's a great point. 92 00:04:47,520 --> 00:04:51,480 Speaker 2: And to what you said, like, this is a break 93 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: from the typical way that the Ravens do business, which 94 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 2: has been drafted to develop, collect picks. 95 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,960 Speaker 3: First round picks for gold. Like that's the way that 96 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: the Ravens tend to operate. 97 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 2: And and I know, I mean, we've done it feels 98 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:10,840 Speaker 2: like a million podcasts where pick the player who's discussed 99 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 2: in trade talks or big name free agent. Insert that 100 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,479 Speaker 2: player over the last decade and we come on here 101 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 2: and every fan ask are you going to make a 102 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: move for Max Crosby or any of the other big 103 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 2: name players, And we often joke that's not really the 104 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: way the Ravens do things. They're not gonna go out 105 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: there and spend big money. They're not gonna give up 106 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:29,359 Speaker 2: a ton of draft capital to go out there and 107 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:31,599 Speaker 2: get a big free agent. They are a draft to develop, 108 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 2: keep their own talent type of team. 109 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,159 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm not gonna lie greed, I'll just throw 110 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,240 Speaker 1: I'll throw myself out here. Right at the beginning of 111 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: the off season, when Max Crosby was discussed as a 112 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: potential trade partner, that he might be one out of Vegas, right, 113 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: I was right there with you, I was like, give 114 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:55,120 Speaker 1: me Max Man. That dude is a dog, Like, give 115 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: me Max, give me Jesse Minner, and let's roll. 116 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: Like, let's let's go to the super Bowl with those dudes. 117 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: And we got Lamar on the offense, Derek henry Day, 118 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: all them, Like, we got the offense, give me those 119 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: dudes on defense, and let's roll. 120 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 4: Yeah. 121 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: Right, But like when it came down to it and 122 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:13,359 Speaker 1: you're reading like what the Raiders want in return, and 123 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: it's it's multiple first round picks and Dallas Cowboys are 124 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: offering are very aggressive and then you're gonna have to 125 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: outdid them. And I was, I honestly was like, I 126 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 1: just I can't see the Ravens doing it. I just 127 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: I can't see him parting with that much draft capital, 128 00:06:27,400 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, like I've seen this story play out, like 129 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: we're talking about, like we've all talked about and hypothesized 130 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: about these moves, and I just didn't see him doing it, 131 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,000 Speaker 1: And not because I didn't want them to, because I 132 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:40,120 Speaker 1: just didn't see him doing it. 133 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, and they did it. 134 00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 135 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,919 Speaker 2: I think that like all that speaks to how this 136 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,479 Speaker 2: is a bit of a change. And you said it 137 00:06:48,480 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 2: off the top first time you ever traded a first 138 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 2: round pick for a player, and you do too give 139 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 2: up two and it's a high first round pick this year. 140 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,760 Speaker 2: You hope next year is the thirty second pick, So 141 00:06:56,800 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: that's why you're looking at it. But high first round 142 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 2: pick this year and fourteen, and so it's it's a 143 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: significant trade package. 144 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, you. 145 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 2: Get a player who just completely changes your defense. Like 146 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: I think a lot of Ravens fans over the course 147 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 2: of the year there was frustration over not being able 148 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 2: to get after the quarterback in games and fourth quarter 149 00:07:21,280 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: collapses and giving up big leads, like all of these 150 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,560 Speaker 2: themes that we've heard, Well, how do you address a 151 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 2: lot of that? Okay, well, you get somebody that can 152 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 2: that can win one. He can, he can beat double teams. 153 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: He can if all the attention is focused on him, 154 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: he can still win and close out a game when 155 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,440 Speaker 2: you need him to do that. And so you get 156 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:46,640 Speaker 2: a player that is not only one of the best 157 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 2: in the NFL at what he does, but you get 158 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: a player who fits exactly what you need to get 159 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 2: your team over the hump potentially, Like that is what 160 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: the Ravens need, and they have like you go through 161 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: the team and you're like, Okay, the offense has all 162 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 2: the pieces to be one of the best offenses. Want 163 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 2: to continue to invest in the offensive line, and the 164 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 2: Toddler Lindbaum contract still out there. I know that's still 165 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: a piece here, but so you want to continue to 166 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 2: invest in the offensive line. You look at the defense, 167 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 2: a ton of talented pieces in the secondary, rookwand Smith 168 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 2: one of the best insidelnebackers, and now you add Max 169 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: Crosby to a defensive front and you're like, Okay, this 170 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 2: team there's not really weaknesses and you feel like you're 171 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: going to be able to I just think that like 172 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 2: what you said, new defensive head coach with Jesse Minzer, 173 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 2: you get one of the best defensive players in football. 174 00:08:37,080 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 2: You still have Lamar Jackson Derek Henry in that offense, 175 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: like let's roll. You have all the pieces and now 176 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: you just need to go out there and. 177 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 4: Do it well. 178 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 1: Superstar defense, I mean the Studs now on defense. I 179 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: mean Kyle Howlinson's one of the best players in the NFL. 180 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 1: Max Crosby is one of the best players in the NFL. 181 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: Rookuan Smith is one of the best players in the NFL. 182 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I mean that's you have a superstar team. 183 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: I mean, I'll all extended. I mean, like Lamar Deren Henry, 184 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh oh absolutely, But I'm saying, like some 185 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: serious star power across this entire team, Like gold jacket 186 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 2: top of line, how many top twenty players in the 187 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,280 Speaker 2: league are on the Ravens. 188 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: Like, there's a bunch. 189 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,480 Speaker 1: Max Krosby is going to be a Hall of Fame, right, 190 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,880 Speaker 1: so the Ravens. The Ravens is traded for a gold 191 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: jacket guy. 192 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,079 Speaker 4: Yeah, And. 193 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: You know, and I also think this is a little 194 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: bit of a tangent. Like he's twenty eight years old, 195 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: Max Crosby. You listen to that guy talk about playing 196 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:35,640 Speaker 1: football and how much he loves playing football. 197 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 4: This dude might play till he's thirty eight. 198 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I mean he he's going to be 199 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: one of those dudes. I'm just telling you right now 200 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: that like is going to play for a while. And 201 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: I don't look at this. I know I said that 202 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:52,079 Speaker 1: it's like an all in move, but like, this is 203 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: also a player that the Ravens added who might be 204 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,200 Speaker 1: in Baltimore for a very long time. It would not 205 00:09:57,240 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: surprise me at all if he if after this current 206 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: contract ends, if he signs an extension, and and and 207 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 1: he's in the in Baltimore for a long time. The 208 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,720 Speaker 1: current his current contract runs through twenty twenty nine, right, 209 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,319 Speaker 1: And so you know there's gonna be a lot of 210 00:10:13,360 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 1: Ravens fans wearing Crosby jerseys in Baltimore, Like he's gonna 211 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:21,120 Speaker 1: be He's gonna be many people's favorite player, yeah, and 212 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: and so like and also to you to your point 213 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: of the fit on this defense and what the Ravens 214 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: needed Max Crosby, to your closer point, he had his 215 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 1: pass rush win rate according to the PFF. This is 216 00:10:36,720 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: from Gordon mcguinnis a Pro Football Focus. His fourth quarter 217 00:10:39,960 --> 00:10:43,640 Speaker 1: pass rush win rate since twenty twenty three is over 218 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 1: four percentage points, which is a massive gap better than 219 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: any rate Ravens edge in that span. So like, this 220 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: dude closes games, right, And I also think it's really 221 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: important in what jesse Minter wants to do because he 222 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:00,959 Speaker 1: wants Jesse Minzer wants to play with like kind of 223 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: lighter boxes, right, and that gives him more defensive backs 224 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:07,320 Speaker 1: that he can use in blitzing in. 225 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 4: A variety of different ways. 226 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: Right, that's kind of the Mike McDonald Jesse Minzer defensive 227 00:11:12,440 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: philosophy is lighter boxes up front that can still stop 228 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 1: the run, and that allows you to do so many 229 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 1: other things on the back end. 230 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 4: Right. 231 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,720 Speaker 1: Max Crosby is not only a great pass rusher who 232 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: has sixty nine and a half sacks in seven seasons, 233 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: but he is arguably the best defensive end in stopping 234 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,880 Speaker 1: the run in the NFL. Right, I mean, he is 235 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: an absolute monster against the run, which I don't think 236 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,719 Speaker 1: he gets quite enough credit for. And you look at 237 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:49,079 Speaker 1: it his tackles for loss over the past four seasons, 238 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: he has forty five tackles for loss. Miles Garrett is 239 00:11:52,640 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 1: next closest with thirty. Yeah, I mean thirty that's a 240 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 1: massive gap, like right there, and then everybody's way behind 241 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: Miles Garrett. Yeah, So, like he is far and away 242 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: the most disruptive run defender in the NFL. 243 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. 244 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 2: Well, I mean, and we can just we can just 245 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 2: run down the hits here. In terms of the stat profile, 246 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:18,720 Speaker 2: he has three hundred and sixty quarterback pressure since entering 247 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 2: the league in twenty nineteen. The next closest is Miles Garrett, 248 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: who has twenty nine fewer. So you want to talk about, 249 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 2: you want to talk about basically top of the line player. 250 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: You ran through the run stats pass pass rush stats. 251 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,720 Speaker 2: Three hundred and sixty pressures again most in the NFL 252 00:12:36,040 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 2: since he's entered the league. This is another one. Number 253 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 2: one in tackles for loss, number one in solo tackles, 254 00:12:44,280 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 2: two in quarterback hits, three in total tackles five and 255 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: sacks four and batter passes like this guy is. We 256 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 2: can pick up twenty different stats to show you how 257 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: good he is if you need them, like we got them. 258 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,560 Speaker 1: Well, well, I think one com here is is the 259 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,840 Speaker 1: trade for Michael Parsons. Right with what the Green Bay 260 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: Packers give up from Micah Parsons two first round picks 261 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 1: plus a Pro Bowl defensive tackle, yeah right, and Kenny 262 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Clark yeah, and so the Ravens. Yeah, you know, people 263 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: are going to look at it and be like, man 264 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: two first is steep, and and that's that's a lot 265 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 1: of draft capital, right, But look at the player that 266 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: they got and and on. They got a little bit 267 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: of a bargain from from what the Packers had to 268 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,320 Speaker 1: pay for Michael Parsons, who you could argue Max Crosby's 269 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:32,200 Speaker 1: effected the game just as much, if not more than 270 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: Michael Parson's. 271 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, well a couple other I mean they're both phenomenal plays, 272 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 3: right right. 273 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 2: You're picking, you're picking between you want. Do you want 274 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: the rolls Royce or the Bentley? But but in terms 275 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 2: of price point, like Max, Look, he's got a big contract. 276 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 2: His cap hit this year is reported thirty million, and 277 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: and look when if players get traded, like numbers can 278 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 2: change on contracts, extensions can happen, So like that's just 279 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: we're operating off of what is out there right now 280 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 2: in terms of what his reporter numbers are thirty million 281 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: this year, but then twenty nine to twenty seven to 282 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,199 Speaker 2: twenty eight, given a player of his caliber and pedigree, 283 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: those cap hits actually are are not astronomical considering how 284 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 2: kind of a player he is. 285 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 1: Tyler Linnerboum's reportedly looking for twenty five, right right, right, 286 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I agree, it's it's it's that's a big 287 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: chunk to bite off, and we can talk about this more, 288 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: but you know, what does that mean for potentially other one? 289 00:14:26,760 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 3: No, no, it's it's expensive. But I'm saying, like. 290 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:32,640 Speaker 4: When you know I don't think I don't think it 291 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 4: is that expensive. Okay, is what I'm saying. 292 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, yeah, I mean, yes, thirty is a big number. 293 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: But for Max Crosby, and when you look around the 294 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: market at just wait, just wait until you see some 295 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: of these free agency deals that are about to come 296 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: next week. Yeah, and it ain't gonna look that expensive. 297 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: I'm just telling you right now, it's going to start 298 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: to look like a bargain. 299 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know. 300 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: I mean, Danielle Hunter just signed a one year forty something, right, right, 301 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: one year forty one, you're forty, right, And I think 302 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 1: Max Crosby at thirty affects the. 303 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:04,040 Speaker 4: Game in more ways. 304 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 1: Again, daneil Hunter awesome player, phenomenal pass rusher, one of 305 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: the best in the league. 306 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 4: So is Max Crosby. 307 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 308 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 2: The other point about Crosby, when you talk about just 309 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: all the ways that he changes the game and affects 310 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: the defense. The dude, and this is unheard of for 311 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 2: his position, basically plays one hundred percent of the snaps. 312 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: He never comes off the field. 313 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 2: It's mid nineties every year it is, it's crazy like 314 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 2: he never comes off the field. 315 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: Dude. 316 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: That to me, that speaks to the also not just 317 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: like the the quality of the player, but the man, right, 318 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: the type of player that Max Crosby is, Like, not just. 319 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 4: The stats, right, We've given you the stats. Let's go 320 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 4: beyond the stats. 321 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: Max Crosby plays the game the way you want your 322 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: Ravens defenders to play the game. 323 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 4: Right. That dude's always talking, always talking. 324 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: He loves getting under the skin of the opposing players. 325 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 3: He's has the battles with Patrick Mahomes over the years. 326 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 4: Renowned for it. Yeah right, he's going to give you 327 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 4: that extra little shove, Right, I love it. I'm there 328 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 4: for it. When he's on my team, I'm there for it. 329 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: Like, and go watch a clip of him talking about 330 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: his love for football by Kevin Clark, and I mean 331 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,760 Speaker 1: it'll make you you'll order your Max Crosby jersey tomorrow. 332 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 4: Like, I'm just telling you. 333 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: You know, the dude loves football, eats breeze, sleeps talked 334 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: about you know, he's out at the Super Bowl or 335 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:24,640 Speaker 1: something like that, and he's talking about waking up at 336 00:16:24,680 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: five am and getting his agent out of bed to 337 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:27,360 Speaker 1: go do a workout. 338 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,640 Speaker 4: That like, this dude. 339 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: Loves football, right, and then the physicality that he plays 340 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,200 Speaker 1: with and then let's just go into why he wanted 341 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 1: out of Vegas, why this trading was even possible. The 342 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 1: dude has a Raiders tattoo. He has a massive Raiders 343 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: tattoo on his leg like this dude. Despite the Raiders 344 00:16:48,240 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: being one of the least successful teams in the NFL 345 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: the past number of years, dude got a massive tattoo. 346 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 1: Love Playing for him was no problem until they told 347 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: him we're shutting you down, like you were not going 348 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: to allow you to play the last two games of 349 00:17:03,800 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: the season because whatever, like they ended up tanking for 350 00:17:08,080 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 1: the first pick or whatever they ended up getting the 351 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: first overall pick. Whatever their their motivations are, I can't 352 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:16,320 Speaker 1: speak to right, but it didn't make Max Crosby happy. 353 00:17:16,359 --> 00:17:18,479 Speaker 1: I can tell you that much, by all accounts, By 354 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,439 Speaker 1: all reports, was he stormed out of the building because 355 00:17:21,600 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: they told him, in a season in which they had 356 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: the worst record in the NFL, that he had to 357 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: stop playing football. That's why he wanted out. A guy 358 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: with a massive tattoo. That alone should tell you the 359 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,919 Speaker 1: passion that Max Crosby has for this game and just 360 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: for his team, his teammates, all that stuff. 361 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:41,200 Speaker 4: Like this dude himself bonafide warrior. 362 00:17:41,359 --> 00:17:44,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think when you run through, I think that 363 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 2: we already covered all the stats and how productive he's been. 364 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 2: And I think that's even more impressive when you consider 365 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:57,320 Speaker 2: how productive he's been for a team that has been 366 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 2: one of the worst performing teams over the course of 367 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: his tenure there. And I think there could be a 368 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,959 Speaker 2: little bit like when teams went to play Max Crosby, 369 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 2: and when they played went to play the Raiders, the 370 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: first guy they put up on the chalkboard was Max 371 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: Crosby and they said, ninety eight, we have to figure 372 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 2: out how to stop this guy. That's where all the 373 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:17,560 Speaker 2: conversation started. And it reminds me a little bit of 374 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: how it was with Derrick Henry and the Titans, where 375 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 2: whenever teams were playing the Titans, with Derrick Henry was there, 376 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 2: it was all about stop Derrick Henry. That's first and foremost. 377 00:18:25,960 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: But even with that as the mindset and the game plan, 378 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 2: He's still Derek Henry was able to be to put 379 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 2: up together Hall of Fame resume even for Max Crosby 380 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,959 Speaker 2: in Vegas, in in Oakland, even when all the attention 381 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: was on him, he still was able to go out 382 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:44,199 Speaker 2: there and build a Hall of fame resume. And I 383 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 2: think that coming to Baltimore, I actually think that his 384 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 2: production could continue to elevate new place, change the scenery, 385 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 2: good pieces around him, defensive head coach, defensive culture, a 386 00:18:56,880 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: lot of investment in him, like all of those things. 387 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: I think even though he's already one of the best 388 00:19:01,880 --> 00:19:03,560 Speaker 2: players in the league, I think he could continue to 389 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: take a jump, which is really exciting. 390 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:06,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. 391 00:19:06,400 --> 00:19:08,959 Speaker 1: Absolutely, he's gonna have more pieces around him, more complimentary 392 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: pieces than what he's had with the Raiders. Absolutely, you know, 393 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 1: plus an awesome defensive play caller and and you know, 394 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: scheme artist and Jesse Menzer. So I'm really excited to 395 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,840 Speaker 1: see what Jesse Menzer can do with Max Crosby. I'm 396 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: sure he is as well. And yeah, I agree with you. 397 00:19:29,440 --> 00:19:32,680 Speaker 1: I think that that he's twenty eight years old and 398 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 1: there's some injury history there, but like Max Crosby has 399 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: a number of excellent years ahead of him. And to 400 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: your point, it could be even better than what we 401 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: have seen. 402 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and the and the injury last year was a 403 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: meniscus tear, right and and to your point, he like, 404 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: like it's not like we're talking about a totally shredded 405 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: knee or anything like that. I mean, it was a 406 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:05,720 Speaker 2: miniscus tear that he wanted to keep playing through, as 407 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 2: you already outlined. So like he got it cleaned up 408 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,639 Speaker 2: and had the procedure, but I'm not particularly concerned that 409 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: it's going to be a long term thing for. 410 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 3: Him, right. 411 00:20:16,280 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Look, the Ravens had a chance to go out 412 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 1: and get an absolute monster, and you don't get many 413 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 1: true opportunities to do that. Micah Parsons. Last year was 414 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: a rare deal, right, This is a rare deal that 415 00:20:32,240 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: the Ravens jumped on. And you know, had there not 416 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: been the falling out with Max Krosby and the Raiders 417 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: late in the season, it wouldn't have presented itself most likely. Right, 418 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 1: But the Raiders are rebuilding that whole All that stuff happened, 419 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 1: you know, that drama happened in Vegas, and the Ravens 420 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,919 Speaker 1: pounced on that opportunity. And as we said, this is 421 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: not how they usually go about doing business. But you know, 422 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,480 Speaker 1: we've seen Super Bowl champions in recent years take a 423 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: big swing like this, like this seems to be what 424 00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:08,720 Speaker 1: has is becoming kind of the formula. Yeah, Now, You know, 425 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: the Ravens have been in contention every single year, and 426 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: I think like they're not going to stray generally speaking 427 00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: from draft develop all what they've done, right, that's kept 428 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,719 Speaker 1: the window open, and that's going to continue. Like they 429 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,320 Speaker 1: are not going to suddenly say, you know what, now 430 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: we're whatever. The Rams or some of these teams that 431 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: we've seen just like getting salary, cap purgatory and all 432 00:21:29,840 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 1: that stuff just completely sell out. Like this is a calculated, 433 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: bold move, and the Ravens are going to generally speaking 434 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: defer to keep the Super Bowl window open. 435 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 4: Draft develop all that stuff. 436 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: But like this was a rare opportunity and this is 437 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: what we've seen championship teams do is pounce on these opportunities, 438 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: and I'm glad the Ravens did. 439 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:54,239 Speaker 2: There's some really good examples of it. The Eagles did 440 00:21:54,240 --> 00:21:56,160 Speaker 2: it when they traded for aj Brown and he made 441 00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 2: an immediate difference, help them win. 442 00:21:58,000 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 4: A Super Bowl. 443 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 2: Tried it with Christian McCaffrey. They went and they got 444 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 2: Christian McCaffrey and helped them get to a Super Bowl. 445 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,240 Speaker 2: Of course, the Rams are probably the most notable examples. 446 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 2: They traded a ton of capital to go get Matthew 447 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:13,160 Speaker 2: Stafford and since making that move, they've won a Super 448 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 2: Bowl and he just won the MVP, and they've consistently 449 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: been one of the best teams in the league. They 450 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 2: come close, they've been knocking on the door in addition 451 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: to already winning one. And so this, I'm with you, 452 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 2: This has that type of potential as a move. It's 453 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 2: a big swing. But like I've heard from Ravens fans 454 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 2: over the years, like you've wanted to see the Ravens 455 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 2: get in some go deep sea fishing at times and 456 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 2: playing some of these waters. 457 00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:39,439 Speaker 3: And that's exactly what they've done. So we'll take a 458 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,040 Speaker 3: quick break. 459 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,240 Speaker 2: When we come back, we'll just share some other final 460 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 2: thoughts on this and look ahead to the opening of 461 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 2: free agency coming up next week. You're listening to the 462 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,080 Speaker 2: Launch podcast. We're coming to you from the Sea Keek Studio. 463 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: We want to mention our partners with Drafticking sports Book. 464 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 2: They are an official sports betting partner of the Baltimore 465 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 2: Ravens Draft Kings sportsbook. The Crown is yours. So obviously 466 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 2: we're excited about the addition of Mac Crosby and what 467 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 2: it means for this team. I think the next question 468 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 2: here is all of the other implications. Notably, everyone in 469 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 2: Raven's world was paying attention to Lamar Jackson's posts on 470 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 2: X on Friday afternoon. 471 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,080 Speaker 4: Waiting with baited breath on that one, and. 472 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: He shared a I think it was a movie training 473 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 2: day a gift from that just said boom with an emoji. 474 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 2: So you're wondering what does this mean? What's the implications here? 475 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,040 Speaker 2: Makes me think he got worded earlier in the day 476 00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: about this Max Crosby trade. But the other question there 477 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 2: is does this also come along with a Lamar Jackson 478 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 2: contract extension. 479 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:36,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 480 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,320 Speaker 2: You can make the cap work, I think without it, 481 00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 2: because you have some mechanisms in order to do that. 482 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 2: So it's not contingent by all accounts on a Lamar 483 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 2: Jackson extension. But wouldn't it be something if it was 484 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 2: kind of a one to two punch here where you 485 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: get the extension for Lamar and the trade for Max Crosby. 486 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: Absolutely. 487 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,720 Speaker 1: Eric Tacosta in the season review press conference with Steve 488 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,920 Speaker 1: Bashadi at the end of the year said a deal 489 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,359 Speaker 1: with Lamar Jackson would give us the ability to be 490 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 1: to be more active to re sign some more players. 491 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:09,560 Speaker 1: On the team and to potentially go after a couple 492 00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: of big ticket items. Well, I'd say the Condor is 493 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:12,879 Speaker 1: a big ticket items. 494 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 3: This is the biggest ticket. It's a giant ticket. You know. 495 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, Okay, so my vacation that we discussed, 496 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: by the way, great to be back with you. 497 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true, that's true. Yeah, we we had a 498 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:27,960 Speaker 3: trash because. 499 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 4: We trashed one podcast where we made all the jokes 500 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,880 Speaker 4: about not seeing each other in three weeks. 501 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 1: Great to see you, buddy. Yeah, things changed fast and 502 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: free agency. That podcast is dead forever, in which we 503 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 1: said there was no way they were gonna. 504 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: Just joking kind of, but uh yeah, so great to 505 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 4: see you. 506 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: And by the way, my vacation was to Patagonia, the 507 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: home of the Chilean Condor. 508 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,639 Speaker 4: I saw condors. It was meant to be. It was 509 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 4: a sign. 510 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: Well, in case anyone's wondering, what makes even talking about 511 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:07,000 Speaker 2: Max Crosby's nickname, nickname is the Condor. So that's just 512 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 2: just to close the gap there. Of course, Matt Max two, 513 00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:12,800 Speaker 2: there's plenty of nicknames to go around for him. 514 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: I prefer condo con Yeah, so because of his wingspan, 515 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: by the way to explain the Condor's massive wingspan. 516 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 3: Jokes get better the more you explain them. 517 00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, let's keep Is there any more jokes 518 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 1: I can explain? 519 00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 4: Let's go back to the knock knock jokes. 520 00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: So I don't know how he got on wingspan and 521 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 2: the Condor and explaining jokes. But the question for that 522 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:38,440 Speaker 2: I have is what this means for Lamar Jackson and 523 00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:39,560 Speaker 2: a potential extension. 524 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,640 Speaker 4: Then yes, yeah, I mean it certainly could mean that. 525 00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: You know, as we laid out, thirty million dollars the 526 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: Ravens are taking on is no small piece of change, 527 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 1: and so the Ravens have to clear cap space to 528 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:56,520 Speaker 1: make this work, which, by the way, you know this 529 00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,240 Speaker 1: trade can't be made official until the start of the 530 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:04,040 Speaker 1: new league year, and which is Wednesday. Yeah, and so 531 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 1: you know this is all according to reports and all 532 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 1: the all this stuff. It's expected to happen, but it 533 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 1: can't become official. The Ravens need to clear enough cap 534 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: space to make this trade happen. And so the best 535 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: way to clear that cap space would be to have 536 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: an extension with Lamar Jackson, which I'm hoping to be 537 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: writing that story today. So, so you know, we'll see, 538 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 1: but Lamar Jackson's tweet of the boom tweet certainly raised 539 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:33,080 Speaker 1: got people's attention, and I hope it's for that reason. 540 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 3: Yeah. 541 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:36,679 Speaker 2: And then and then obviously there's all the other players 542 00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 2: who are free agents. Look, regardless of what happens with 543 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:44,119 Speaker 2: with Lamar, I mean, that's a big, big element there. 544 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: A lot of the salary cap has been taken up here, 545 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 2: and so the Raves just got him at a great player, 546 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: but it's a big chunk of the cap. We'll see 547 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 2: if the Ravens are also able to keep Todder Linderbaum. 548 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 2: That's obviously another big question here. It's kind of there's 549 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 2: the two biggest questions in my mind remaining are is 550 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,480 Speaker 2: there a contract extension done or in the works here 551 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 2: with Lamar Jackson? And then secondly, what does this mean 552 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,879 Speaker 2: for Tyler Linnerbaum. The Ravens were clear that they have 553 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,719 Speaker 2: been trying to keep him. They said of the combine, 554 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 2: they've made a market setting offer to him. Are they 555 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 2: able to keep him in Baltimore? 556 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,400 Speaker 3: Hopefully? 557 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 2: Does that change with the addition of Max Crosby. I 558 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: don't think it changes the desire, it changes some of 559 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 2: the finances potentially, but we'll see if the Ravens are 560 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 2: also able to keep him before free agency opens. 561 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 4: Yeah. I don't know. 562 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I would have a hard time saying it's impossible. 563 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: Nick Mattio would know the answer, you know, but I 564 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 1: would doubt that's the case. 565 00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,879 Speaker 4: Can they still get it done? Maybe? You know, I 566 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 4: mean the center market. 567 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 1: The Bears were the team that were really rumored to 568 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: be interested in Tyler Linnerbaum. They have gone after and 569 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: made a trade for Garrett Bradbury to fill their center 570 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,840 Speaker 1: void after a retirement. The Chargers already signed a center, 571 00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: So some of the teams that were kind of rumored 572 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: to be in the Lindenbaum's sweet stakes are are already 573 00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: filling that hole. 574 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:07,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, and so. 575 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: I imagine there's other teams that are interested in his 576 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: services as well. I'm not gonna say he's out of 577 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: dance partners by any stretch, but you know, I wouldn't 578 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,840 Speaker 1: rule out the possibility that Tyler Linnenbaum could kind of 579 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, see, it seems like because they haven't gotten 580 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,480 Speaker 1: a deal done yet and because of the reporting contract 581 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: desires of twenty five mil and and all that stuff, 582 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: that it seems like, man, I don't know if he's 583 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: gonna they're gonna pull this one off and be able 584 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: to retain him, but I wouldn't rule out the possibility 585 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 1: the kind of boomerangs back to Baltimore. 586 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm not closing the door on that at all. Look, 587 00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 2: last year, it felt like right before the even free 588 00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: agency that Ronnie Stanley was going to be going elsewhere, 589 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,440 Speaker 2: and then right before things opened up the weekend before, 590 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: just like this, the Ravens announced an extension with him. 591 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: So I think the possibility is still there and it'll 592 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: be interesting to see how that how that goes. So, Look, 593 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: this is an exciting day. This is an exciting day 594 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 2: for the Ravens. I think that this really sets the 595 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 2: trajectory for this team going into this season already really 596 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: high expectations. I think this only solidifies it and maybe 597 00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: even makes them a little bit more. It elevates them 598 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 2: to another extent. And it's been an off season of change, 599 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 2: but I think really exciting, invigorating change, and I can't 600 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: wait to see Max Crosby and a rate if his uniform, 601 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 2: get him in the building and see the difference that 602 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,120 Speaker 2: he's gonna make on this team. 603 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 1: Absolutely, it's gonna be really, really, really fun to watch 604 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: that guy play and work alongside him. 605 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 4: Can't wait. 606 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 3: Awesome. 607 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: As always, you can email us at the lounge at 608 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 2: Ravens NFL dot net. I'm sure there's a lot of 609 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 2: excited fans that are gonna be sending into those emails this. 610 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 3: Week, so thank you so much. We will be back 611 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,120 Speaker 3: with you again this week. 612 00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 2: It's a busy week ahead of us with free agency 613 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:52,960 Speaker 2: opening up, so stay tuned for more to come.