1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: My guest today is Nick Catterall, the performance director at 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: Auden's Golf Performance. Nick, I mean, what are we calling 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: you these days? 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: I generally I get to ask that question, and they asked, 5 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:16,040 Speaker 2: what's that? So? 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:19,319 Speaker 3: I'm a high performance coach for Auden's Golf Performance and 7 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,119 Speaker 3: I work with camp Smith, Mark Leishman, and a couple 8 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: boys on the PGA tour, Adam Scott, Carl Phillips. And 9 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,640 Speaker 3: basically I founded Auden's Golf Performance. So I'm the high 10 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 3: performance coach for Auden's. 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 1: Golf Formance in Jacksonville, Florida. In Jacksonville, Florida, originally from Australia. 12 00:00:35,760 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 3: Correct, Yeah, I don't know if you picked that up 13 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:41,159 Speaker 3: with my accent, but yeah, So I'm from Brisbane and 14 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 3: I came over in about twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen, and 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 3: I have been on tour basically ever since. 16 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:50,960 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody knows about performance, but I'm always fascinated 17 00:00:51,360 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: and trying to figure out for everyone listening, what is 18 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: the difference between performance and high performance? And what to 19 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: you does high performance mean? And how is it different 20 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: than just regular performance. 21 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, in my experience, these are just you know, terms 22 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 3: that we sort of use to classify a job, right, 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 3: So a high performance coach versus a performance coach is 24 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 3: probably not a hell of a lot of difference. 25 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 2: So high performance probably just meaning that you're dealing with. 26 00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 3: More professional athletes as opposed to developing athletes or amateur athletes. 27 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:30,199 Speaker 3: So high performance coach sort of takes care of the 28 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:34,119 Speaker 3: performance journey from where the athlete is to where they 29 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: want to get to realizing their goals, and those goals 30 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 3: can be you know, already on tour, looking to win, 31 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 3: looking to change things, looking to go from a you know, 32 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 3: an adolescent or amateur state to you know, being on 33 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 3: tour so to speak for you know, specifically talking about golf. 34 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 3: But you know, in other forms of business, it's a 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 3: project manager or you know, a management title that gives 36 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:01,800 Speaker 3: them a specific task to look at the whole picture, 37 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:06,040 Speaker 3: not just the individual or select units that most people 38 00:02:06,080 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: sort of stick towards, whether that be like a physical 39 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 3: therapist or a strengthing inditioning coach, or they have specific jobs. 40 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:14,680 Speaker 3: Whereas the project manager or the high performance coach or 41 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 3: the performance director, they look at all the facets in 42 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 3: a holistic view. 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: You mentioned Cam Smith, talk me through that journey. How 44 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: did you meet Cam? How did you start working with Cam? 45 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 1: And what has that journey been like? I mean, obviously, 46 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: I mean I get this question all the time, Nick, 47 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: you know what are you teaching? You know what are 48 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: you working? Dustin Johnson just need a coach and he 49 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: can do it himself and stuff like that. But in 50 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: Cam's case, how did that relationship come about? And tell 51 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: me what that journey has been? Like? How long have 52 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:47,239 Speaker 1: you been working with Cam? 53 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 2: Since? 54 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:51,959 Speaker 3: About twenty eighteen? Twenty eighteen, so Fee is now when 55 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 3: he came out on tour, he had a good team 56 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,679 Speaker 3: with him. He was working with a strength inditioning coach 57 00:02:57,720 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 3: called Nick Randall and he was doing you know, some 58 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 3: some soft tissue work with him. Then at that point, 59 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,200 Speaker 3: I was working with other athletes on the PGA tour, 60 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: and you know, Cam was kind of the new hot 61 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 3: shit coming out and it was just a good journey 62 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 3: of you know, Australians. Obviously, you know, knowing other Australians, 63 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 3: I kind of knew his management team as well, and 64 00:03:17,840 --> 00:03:21,800 Speaker 3: he needed someone to do soft tissue therapy and basically 65 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 3: manage him from that specific role to begin with. So 66 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: when I went out there and met him and you know, 67 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 3: we started working together. I think it basically it started, 68 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: you know, twenty eighteen, and we basically developed that relationship 69 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,640 Speaker 3: over a number of years. And then COVID happened and 70 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 3: his team from Australia couldn't travel anymore, and so over 71 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 3: those couple of years, we continued to develop that relationship 72 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 3: and I started to take on more responsibilities, and you know, 73 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 3: from that point of view, his strength and conditioning coach 74 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 3: stopped traveling, and that's obviously something that I, you know, 75 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 3: hold very near and dear to my heart. So I 76 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 3: started taking over that role as well, and so now 77 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 3: I sort of look after the you know, his musculous 78 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 3: little health, his strength and conditioning journey, and then in 79 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,560 Speaker 3: sports is inside of things as well. So Cam and 80 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 3: I have good friends. We've gotten to know each other 81 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 3: very well, you know, obviously, as you do when you 82 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,440 Speaker 3: when you travel the world and live in each other's pockets. 83 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:19,280 Speaker 3: So it's been it's been a fantastic journey, and he's 84 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: a great guy and I'm very privileged to and feel 85 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: very blessed to be in this position. So that's basically 86 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 3: how I got to know him. 87 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:27,119 Speaker 2: On tour. 88 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 3: He was on tour I was already on tour and 89 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:31,919 Speaker 3: then you know from there we we sort of cross 90 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: paths later on when it was needed to. 91 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: I had grand Field, his coach, on the podcast a 92 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 1: couple of years ago when we were down in Australia. 93 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: I always say, when people look at the modern golf 94 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: landscape now, when they look at, you know, how professional 95 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: golfers and the teams of people around them, would it 96 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: be fair to say that in twenty twenty five, the 97 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 1: professional golfer is kind of like the professional tennis player, 98 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: Whereas the tennis players historically have always had big teams 99 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: of people around them, right, because obviously they have to 100 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: have hitting partners, they need people to practice stuff like that. 101 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,480 Speaker 1: In golf, they're practicing kind of on their own, but 102 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: in tennis you need someone. If you're Novak Djokovic, Jhonic, center, 103 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:19,360 Speaker 1: Carlos Akorez in practice, you're not going and hitting balls 104 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: against people that don't know how to hit it back. 105 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: You're not going against a ball machine, you're not going 106 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: against a hitting wall. So the tennis players have always 107 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,280 Speaker 1: had really really big teams. We see that at Wimbledon's 108 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: you'll see a player's box and the broadcast when you 109 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: watch the US Open, when you watch any of the 110 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: majors on tennis, they will show you the box. I 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: mean Darren k Hill, who does work for ESPN, who's 112 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:46,280 Speaker 1: worked also in the space of media and stuff, who 113 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:48,799 Speaker 1: to me is like one of the people that I've 114 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: always wanted to try and emulate because I did work 115 00:05:52,200 --> 00:05:55,360 Speaker 1: for television with Sky and Golf Channel stuff. But when 116 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 1: you look at these teams now, I think we do 117 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 1: see now the elite tour professionals they have of a 118 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: performance team around them. They have their management team that 119 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: handle the stuff off the golf course, but then they 120 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,239 Speaker 1: have a performance team around them. How do you bridge 121 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: that gap? You know, I'm on the instruction side, You're 122 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: on the performance side of things, You're on the physical 123 00:06:20,520 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: side of things. We had dinner last night and we 124 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: talked a lot a lot about you know, these topics. 125 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,840 Speaker 1: But how does the role that you feel like integrates 126 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: between the instructional side of thing that Cam's trying to 127 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: do with his instructor grant and then what you're trying 128 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,560 Speaker 1: to do. That is something that I don't think in 129 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: golf really no one ever really started thinking about until 130 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: Greg Rose and Dave Phillips from the Titleist Performance Institute, 131 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: both who I've had on the pod their mentors of mind, 132 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: but they were the ones that said, listen, even for 133 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:55,760 Speaker 1: an average golfer, build a team of people around them. 134 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 1: So the balance between the instructional side and the performance side, 135 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: the side with what did you do? How does that 136 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: marriage work? And how do you feel like those marriages 137 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: work when they're good? 138 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:14,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the idea of having everyone in select silos, 139 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 3: you know, doing their role. And I had this conversation 140 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 3: with Mark wall a while ago. 141 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: We know very well, yeah he's Brooks kept us physio 142 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: and you've got a podcast. We're going to get to 143 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: that too, but he talked. 144 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 3: About it as well, and so you know, like he 145 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,679 Speaker 3: was big on like this is something that it was 146 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: pretty obvious. It's like you kill your category, right, and 147 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 3: which is you know? I think that everyone who's employed 148 00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 3: in this situation does a very elite job at what 149 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 3: they're good at. And so traditionally speaking, everyone worked within 150 00:07:42,480 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 3: their silo. They didn't step out of the boundaries very much. 151 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 3: And it was very much like you have your you 152 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:49,480 Speaker 3: have your job, you have your train of thought, and 153 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 3: you stick to what you know, and I think nowadays 154 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: we sort of let's just say that it's it's a 155 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:00,720 Speaker 3: more positive experience when everyone communicates and collaborates in that effort, 156 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 3: so that there is crossover between those silos. And so 157 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:09,680 Speaker 3: it may not necessarily have been such an environment beforehand, 158 00:08:09,720 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 3: but I think nowadays we have that environment. We have 159 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 3: the ability to collaborate, we have the ability to. 160 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:16,440 Speaker 2: You know, not work. 161 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 3: We sort of throw this comment around a little bit, 162 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 3: but like more buying from the athletes so that the 163 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,280 Speaker 3: athlete is you know, partaking on that journey with them, 164 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 3: so that they are having, you know, the process of 165 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 3: having informed decisions and taking responsibility on themselves. And this 166 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 3: is the one thing that I'm sort of big on 167 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 3: is the athlete sort of making sure that they have 168 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 3: input on their direction and captaining their own ship and 169 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 3: being the leader of their team, even if they're not 170 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 3: necessarily driving the you know, or captaining the ship, so 171 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 3: they're not driving that day to day ideal, but they 172 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 3: are overseeing the whole picture. And so with tennis, with golf, 173 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,959 Speaker 3: you know, these athletes have to make choices. They are 174 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 3: the ones forking out the cash, they're the ones paying 175 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,520 Speaker 3: the bills and so they are ultimately the people that 176 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 3: you know, have to make the decisions who gets paid, 177 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 3: who does what, who's responsible for what aspect of that, 178 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 3: whether it be a skill set or a physical component 179 00:09:19,480 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 3: or like a caddy, you know, And so when they 180 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 3: have to make those decisions, they become the boss. And 181 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 3: if they're paying for people to do jobs, they end 182 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:31,359 Speaker 3: up being the boss. And so when they take responsibility, 183 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 3: when they you know, they're not supposed to know everything, 184 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:38,000 Speaker 3: but they are supposed to at least partake in the 185 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: decision making process and being an informed person about you know, 186 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 3: their direction, because it is ultimately up to them. And 187 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: so nowadays where we've got large teams, and those teams 188 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 3: can be extensive, like we obviously know people on tour 189 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: that have you know, ten to twenty people in their camps. 190 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 3: And you've had people on the podcast before like sports psychologists, 191 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 3: you know obviously other swing coaches, physical therapists, strength nditioning coaches, caddies. 192 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:07,679 Speaker 3: We've got day to day you know, management people that 193 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 3: will do all of the tasks that need to be 194 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 3: done during the day, looking after clubs, clothes, kit managers, 195 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 3: you've got statisticians, you've got everyone. So there's a whole 196 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 3: umbrella there of people that you know, need to communicate 197 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:25,840 Speaker 3: and unfortunately the athlete, that means that there's a certain 198 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 3: amount of time every day that that athlete has to 199 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 3: spend with those people, and so it does take away 200 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 3: from the athlete actually being able to do their job, 201 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: which is, you know, perform their skill set and perform 202 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 3: it to a very high degree. And so whilst there 203 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,160 Speaker 3: is a combination of efforts there, you know from where 204 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: I come from, the high performance manager or director or 205 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 3: the project manager so to speak, has the ability to 206 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: have oversight and you know, make sure that the athlete 207 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,560 Speaker 3: is able to be left to do their job and 208 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 3: have everyone filter in and out, make sure the communications 209 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,719 Speaker 3: line and that everyone is on the same path of 210 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 3: you know, trying to get the athlete of where they 211 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 3: want to get. 212 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: To give me a typical week with Cam Smith at 213 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: a tournament, right, and is there a difference in the 214 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: role that you do when he's had a regular golf tournament, 215 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:20,439 Speaker 1: he plays on live, he's going down to Australia in 216 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: the next couple he's going to play a bunch of 217 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: the Australian stuff. But a typical week and does that 218 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: week change in a major, but the day to day 219 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:33,360 Speaker 1: of what you're doing for the seven days that they're 220 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:34,680 Speaker 1: at a tournament is what. 221 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot to it. 222 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,160 Speaker 3: So time management is a big thing and putting those 223 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: you know, sessions into buckets. And so with live the 224 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 3: way it is now, we have a team sort of 225 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,360 Speaker 3: supporting our athletes, and not just at the live events, 226 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,280 Speaker 3: but in and around you know, our individual So where 227 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 3: obviously Saturday International, you've got the Australian events and so 228 00:11:58,559 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 3: those teams are still somewhat supporting the athletes, you know, 229 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,960 Speaker 3: even if that's not in a live capacity. And so 230 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: at a major it is a very intensified version of 231 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 3: what it would be in any other week. And an 232 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 3: intensification just means that we're a little bit more granular, 233 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: a little bit more particular with you know, where we're 234 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:21,840 Speaker 3: spending time, how we're looking at aspects of the game 235 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 3: that we need to clean up. And like I was saying, 236 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,439 Speaker 3: the live side of things has been really good. So 237 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 3: rip A GC are a really good supporting team. We 238 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,679 Speaker 3: have a very good environment. Last year we brought on 239 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 3: Tony Meyer, who's the director of Pipe Performance for Golf 240 00:12:38,200 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: Australia a lot of experience, you know, managing these facets 241 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: as well, and so we've got a lot of good 242 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: people in and around CAM now that are able to 243 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 3: help facilitate those roles, you know, getting him what he needs. 244 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 3: And so looking at a tournament week from basically Monday 245 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 3: to Sunday live is obviously three days now moving to 246 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 3: four days, and so that'll obviously push our time frame 247 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 3: up a little bit. But practice, treatment, training, and I'm 248 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 3: responsible for the treatment and training side of things for CAM, 249 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: whereas the scheduling side of things is now sort of 250 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 3: more put forward from the team side of things, which 251 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 3: is great. So you know, Tony's working with Nick and 252 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 3: Jena and they've got obviously a social media plan that 253 00:13:22,200 --> 00:13:25,280 Speaker 3: they've got to touch base on what they're doing throughout 254 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 3: the week from a media standpoint, and so they've got 255 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 3: commitments outside of just the gameplay, the practice, the gym work, 256 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: the tablework that they need to perform and fulfill. And 257 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: so Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday usually our sort of strict get 258 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,080 Speaker 3: everything that we need to get done through you know 259 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 3: those three days. Thursday, whether that be a prom day 260 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 3: or Wednesday being a prim day. Now I suppose is 261 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,719 Speaker 3: sort of dedicated to tightening everything up, reducing all the 262 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:56,120 Speaker 3: other stresses, and then looking towards our performance days, which 263 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 3: obviously is now Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, and in and 264 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,480 Speaker 3: around those performance day they're obviously going to have flash 265 00:14:01,559 --> 00:14:04,120 Speaker 3: media and things like that that they've got to do, 266 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 3: but they've still got to hit their strength inditioning sessions. 267 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 2: They've still got to get on the table. 268 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 3: So there's there's non negotiables there that Cam obviously knows 269 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 3: and obviously has the ability to change on the fly 270 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 3: if he wants to, but he knows that there's a 271 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 3: routine there before after he's always always very regimented before 272 00:14:20,680 --> 00:14:23,320 Speaker 3: he practices. It's two hours on the table. We go 273 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: from on the table to in the gym as always 274 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 3: a half an hour sort of routine in the gym 275 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 3: where he's working on his body, he's warming up, he's activating, 276 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 3: and then he goes to the range and then starts 277 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 3: that process, whether that be putting and moves on to 278 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: is you know, working through his long clubs and short clubs. 279 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: I'd say this all the time. I think one of 280 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 1: the things that the average golfer struggles with you, whether 281 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 1: whatever role they're trying to, you know, have golf play 282 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: in their life. To me, the score barriers are one 283 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: hundred ninety eighty break par for the first time, and 284 00:14:54,360 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: then the world that we live in, the elite professional 285 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 1: golf world is very different. But I'm always saying to players, listen, 286 00:15:02,400 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: if golf is important to you, regardless of how much 287 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: time you've got and regardless of your handicap level, come 288 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 1: up with some sort of warm up that you can 289 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: do religiously. So you know, what is a good kind 290 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: of warm up hack that a player that's trying to 291 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, like you said, Cam's on your table 292 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: pre playing tournaments before he starts doing any golf warm 293 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 1: up putting, chipping, hitting golf ball. Correct, that's a two 294 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 1: hour process that involves you doing the physical side of 295 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: looking after his body, soft tissue work, stretching, and then 296 00:15:42,920 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: gym stuff. But nobody has any time, right, everybody's trying 297 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,560 Speaker 1: to get to the golf course. You want to hit 298 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: a warm up and stuff? Can you give me a 299 00:15:50,680 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: good fifteen to twenty minute hack ye that a fifteen 300 00:15:56,480 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: to twenty five handicapper could do that is going to 301 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: help their body prepare for the next four to six 302 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,280 Speaker 1: hours are going to spend on the golf course. 303 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 3: It's such a loaded question because I could dive so 304 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:15,280 Speaker 3: deep into the individuality of everyone and how they sort 305 00:16:15,320 --> 00:16:16,880 Speaker 3: of need to look at that bodies. 306 00:16:16,920 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: But yeah, but you and I both know nobody's going 307 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: to do that. No, of course, people that are super 308 00:16:22,920 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: super focused and stuff like that. But everybody's going to 309 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: say listen. And we used to do that, right, We 310 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: used to give people listen, do this, Yeah, thirty minutes 311 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: to an hour and stuff like that. My students that 312 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: I teach at home on a regular basis that aren't 313 00:16:35,920 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: competitive golfers, that are just club golfers trying to break 314 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: these score barriers of one hundred and ninety eighty seventy 315 00:16:43,600 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: for the first time. They're just going to say, listen, 316 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: I have time to do this, and what I really 317 00:16:47,920 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: want to do is hit balls. And I'm like, okay, 318 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: But if TPI came out with a couple of years ago, 319 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: body preps, Yeah, So, how does the average golfer effectively 320 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: in a very short time time gap. Yeah, turn the 321 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 1: car on, warm the car up so that when the 322 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: car gets on to their destination, you're trying to drive it, 323 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: it works better. 324 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 3: I think that the short answer is we look at 325 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: like setting the bus so low that they can't fail, 326 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 3: which is in this case, it's like, Okay, I just 327 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 3: know that I've got to hit these areas and these 328 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 3: exercises and it's going to take five to ten minutes 329 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,959 Speaker 3: on the range beforehand, and that's like a oh, I 330 00:17:27,960 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 3: can do this every single time because it's able to 331 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 3: be done and I don't have to worry about it, 332 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 3: so it's not a huge lengthy process that becomes a 333 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 3: little bit too you know, too much to chew on. 334 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 2: So on the. 335 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: Red give me a parking lot warm up, Yeah, that 336 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: someone can go to and listen. I'm gonna get my 337 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:47,600 Speaker 1: clubs out of the car. I'm going, you know, lift 338 00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: the back of my you know car up my suv. 339 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 1: My clubs are back there, My golf shoes are back there. 340 00:17:53,680 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't have time to go into the clubhouse. There's 341 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: no space. Not everybody listened to this podcast as a 342 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 1: country club that has gym and a space. So I've 343 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 1: got fifteen to twenty minutes. I'm at my care I'm 344 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: at a public golf facility. The back of my SUVs. 345 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,199 Speaker 1: I'm sitting on the back of my suv. Put my 346 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,199 Speaker 1: shoes on. Yeah, give me some low hanging fruit that 347 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: they can do easier. 348 00:18:15,320 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 3: I think that when we look at this, I would 349 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 3: just say go straight to the range and take a towel. 350 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:22,199 Speaker 3: You can line on a towel on the range. You 351 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 3: know it's not gonna get you dirty. You've got the 352 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 3: ability to do some cat camels, So start on a floor, 353 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 3: and this is the way I usually take people through 354 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: a warm up. So start with the mobility side of things. 355 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 3: We do cat camels, some downward dogs, so some basic 356 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 3: yoga moves to try to get moving. 357 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: We got for people listening. 358 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 2: Okay, so we're getting granular here. 359 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:46,200 Speaker 3: So the downward dog is a way of being able 360 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 3: to sort of get the core working. You've got a 361 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: little bit of posterior change, stress and lengthening that we're 362 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 3: trying to promote. So you're down on all fours, you're 363 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 3: on your tippy toes and hands, and so you're basically 364 00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 3: your backside goes through up into the air. So you 365 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,080 Speaker 3: got the downward dog, which is basically the pelvis going 366 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: towards the floor, and then you go into an updog position. 367 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 3: So these are obviously easily googled exercises, but we're trying 368 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: to get the spine and the hips to move either 369 00:19:15,359 --> 00:19:18,720 Speaker 3: together or in a sequence that allows us to put 370 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 3: a little bit of strain on that posterior chain and 371 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 3: then a little strain on the anterior chain, and so 372 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:25,679 Speaker 3: we're opening up the body. We're opening up the spine 373 00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 3: in this way. So we do ten of those, okay, 374 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 3: and then you do cat camels, which is specifically spinal related. 375 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 3: So you're on all fours. Your spine's going up to 376 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 3: the sky and then it's going back down to the ground. 377 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,639 Speaker 3: Spine's going to the sky back down to the ground. 378 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 3: You're moving your head in and up around that as well, 379 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,359 Speaker 3: so we're putting our spine through flexion and extension. Okay, 380 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 3: Then you're gonna sit back on your heels, so the 381 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 3: bum goes back onto the heels. Then you're gonna go 382 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,960 Speaker 3: through some spinal rotations where you put your hand on 383 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 3: the back of your neck, the elbow the other elbow, 384 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: so your opposite elbows down on the floor, so you're 385 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:02,200 Speaker 3: in a prayer position with your right arm at the moment. 386 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 2: So that's going to go all the way up to 387 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:04,080 Speaker 2: the ceiling. 388 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 3: The spine's going to go into rotation, so we're going 389 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: to do ten of those on each side. So we've 390 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: got the spine at this point and the body going 391 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 3: through lengthening of your posture and anterior chain spine's being 392 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: rotated at the same time. Afterwards, then we're going to 393 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 3: go through some hip mobility, so the fire hydrant exercise, 394 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 3: so we all see a dog going p on a 395 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 3: fire hydrant, that's kind of what we want to imitate. 396 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,479 Speaker 3: So yeah, with that, yeah, exactly, So you're on all fours. 397 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: That right knee, if you're going to start with the 398 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,639 Speaker 3: right knee that kicks out to this side and we 399 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 3: do a circular motion with the knee. We call these 400 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: hip cars as well in the physical therapy world, so 401 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 3: hip capsule articular rotations, and we do that both sides, 402 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,720 Speaker 3: so ten each side clockwise any clockwise motions, and that 403 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 3: gives us our hip mobility a little stabilizers work as well, 404 00:20:49,480 --> 00:20:50,959 Speaker 3: puts a little bit of stress on our court at 405 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 3: the same time to try and activate. Then we're going 406 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: to do a side plank, so we've just hit you know, 407 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:57,800 Speaker 3: a couple of areas within a couple of minutes, we're 408 00:20:57,800 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 3: going to do a side plank to try and get 409 00:20:59,359 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 3: our lap side nice and engaged, and so our sideplank 410 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 3: we can do that on our knee, or we can 411 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 3: do a little bit of a longer lever which is 412 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 3: on our foot side plank, and then we're going to 413 00:21:07,119 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 3: do leg raises into the air, so we're getting both 414 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 3: sides of our body working okay, and they're star plank 415 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 3: some people call it a star plank. You can regress 416 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 3: or progress progress. 417 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:18,080 Speaker 2: These in any way shape or form. 418 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 3: You do the other side ten of those, boom, you're 419 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,879 Speaker 3: outside the done, and then we're going to do supine position, 420 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 3: so you're facing the sky on your mat at this 421 00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 3: point in time, all your tail so bumb's being pushed 422 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 3: up and down to the ceiling. So we're doing supine bridges, 423 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: which is ten of those. So we're just out bomb 424 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 3: basically going back down to the floor and up to 425 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 3: the ceiling together knees. 426 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:45,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's kind of in that lying position to where 427 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: you bring your knees kind of closer and then you're 428 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: just going to it's like. 429 00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: A bridge correct and if you've got to like a 430 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 3: little hip bend you can put that on the knees 431 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 3: as well to try and engage those glutes a little 432 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,040 Speaker 3: bit more. And so we're just doing ten pelvic thrusts 433 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,879 Speaker 3: into the sky at this point, and then we're going 434 00:21:59,920 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 3: to do a single leg thrust, so you stay in 435 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 3: that position and one leg goes out, So we're putting 436 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 3: a little bit more emphasis on one side here, and 437 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: the inability or the ability to sort of stop yourself 438 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: rotating as well is going to be there. So you 439 00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 3: do ten of these, so same position, legs out, kicked out, 440 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 3: and then you do ten thrusts down to the floor 441 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: and then back up, and then you obviously swap sides. 442 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 3: So at this point in time, we've got a decent 443 00:22:24,600 --> 00:22:28,560 Speaker 3: amount of mobility and stability efforts going throughout the body. 444 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,160 Speaker 3: We can probably stand up. So that's let's just say 445 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 3: that that's five minutes there. Okay, then we're going to 446 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,199 Speaker 3: go through grab a club in that position. We're going 447 00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 3: to grab a club and do ten overhead squats. Okay, 448 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 3: these are nice and slow. We're finding hip range, we're 449 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,000 Speaker 3: finding our balance, we're finding out how our body is moving. 450 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: Becase you can go down. It's not a contest. 451 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 3: Exactly, so it's you know, you can go ask the 452 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 3: grass if you want to and if you've got the 453 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 3: ability to, but don't let yourself sort of fall out 454 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:58,480 Speaker 3: of position. These are things that we're just warming up. 455 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:00,920 Speaker 3: So you know, as you go through through those ten reps, 456 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,680 Speaker 3: you can get a little deeper, get a little faster 457 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 3: if you want to. And then from there, once we've 458 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 3: done our ten reps, we're going to do ten forward 459 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 3: lunges with rotations, and so you grab the club out 460 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: in front of you, you lunge, so you stay with 461 00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 3: one foot on the ground, You lunge with the other 462 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 3: foot out in front of you, do like a little squat, 463 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 3: and then back up after you've rotated to that side. 464 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 3: So forward lunge, rotate over the bent knee, come back 465 00:23:27,119 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 3: to the middle, and then come back up to a 466 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 3: standing position. That's one rep. So you do ten reps 467 00:23:32,119 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: on the right, ten reps on the left, rotating both 468 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 3: ways if you can. And then we've got some functional 469 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: dynamic movements that we've just put the body through that 470 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 3: should be able to sort of at least get ourselves 471 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 3: a little bit under the pump. At this point, if 472 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 3: you're starting to breathe a little bit. 473 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 2: That's where we want you to be. 474 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 3: We're going to do some side bending, so grab the club, 475 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: basically take one leg and switch it over the other 476 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 3: side of the other leg. So you're kind of like, 477 00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 3: you know, crossing your legs at this point in a 478 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 3: standing because we're going to do a nice little side 479 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,600 Speaker 3: bend stretch to each side. 480 00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 2: We're going to do ten of. 481 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,919 Speaker 3: Those, going down as far as you can before you 482 00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 3: feel the stretch, and then ten to the other side, 483 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 3: crossing the other leg. Okay, you've got some side bending there, 484 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,320 Speaker 3: gone through the hips, gone through the torso at this point. 485 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 3: We've gone through the lateral torso stretches at this point, 486 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 3: and so now we want to sort of start to 487 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 3: get the arms moving a little bit more. So one 488 00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 3: arm holds a club in the middle of the club 489 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 3: out to the basically straight out and then you start 490 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 3: doing internal and external shoulder rotations and so you know, 491 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: this movement is basically trying to get the arm to 492 00:24:36,840 --> 00:24:39,320 Speaker 3: move in the shoulder capsule. And then we start once 493 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: we've done those ten internal and external rotations with the club, 494 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 3: we start to look at taking our club all the 495 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: way through sorry, our shoulder all the way through. It's 496 00:24:50,119 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 3: range of motion, so taking the club up and down 497 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: with the arm movements, so both sides. So ten of these, 498 00:24:56,240 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 3: and this is what we call our Glenno funeral rhythm. 499 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 3: So our scapula needs to learn how to work on 500 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 3: our rib cage at that point. So we're starting to 501 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 3: get build a little appropriate reception in and around, moving 502 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:09,159 Speaker 3: the whole arm and the shoulder on the torso okay, 503 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 3: and so at that point our shoulders are warm, we 504 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 3: can start to warm up our wrists, okay, and so 505 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:19,160 Speaker 3: we bend our elbow. It's tucked nice and neatly into 506 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:23,160 Speaker 3: our side. We do pronation supernation movements with our club. 507 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,600 Speaker 3: So the club's still being held in the middle. We've 508 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: got pronation supernation movements, arms tucked in. We do ten 509 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 3: of those each side. We swap arms, and so at 510 00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 3: that point we've got our wrists, we've got our shoulders, 511 00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: we've got our torso, we've got our hips, We've got 512 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: everything that basically needs to be warm warm, and then 513 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:42,960 Speaker 3: we're gonna start to speed up things. 514 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna start to make it. 515 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: A little bit more explosive, okay, and so we might 516 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 3: do ten lateral bounds from side to side. So we're 517 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: gonna start moving the weight from left to right. So 518 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,959 Speaker 3: on the left side, just say, if we're starting on 519 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 3: the left leg, you're basically putting all your weight onto 520 00:25:58,320 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 3: that left leg, and you're gonna jump all the way 521 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 3: to the right, and then you're going to bound from 522 00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 3: the right back to the left. We're going to do 523 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 3: ten of those. And so once we've and this is 524 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,200 Speaker 3: the basic foundational principles here. So we've got mobility, we've 525 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,240 Speaker 3: got the stability side of things, we've got the dynamic movements. 526 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 3: Now we're starting to get into the ballistic stuff. The 527 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:22,719 Speaker 3: ballistic movements are effectively there to give your body the 528 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,479 Speaker 3: activity that it needs to swing its first your first 529 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 3: you know, swing as intense as you want it to be, 530 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: so that your body's absolutely ready. This should take you 531 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 3: no longer than fifteen minutes. Okay, you've gone from the 532 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 3: floor to a standing to a dynamic movement, to some 533 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 3: ballistic jumps or some lateral bounds. You can do some 534 00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,359 Speaker 3: vertical jumps as well, and by that point in time 535 00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,119 Speaker 3: you should be right ready to go. That's the short 536 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 3: nuts and bolts of it. If that takes you longer 537 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 3: than fifteen minutes, we might need to start sort of 538 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: looking at how your body actually functions from like a 539 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,960 Speaker 3: physical prep standpoint. 540 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 1: Coming from a physical medical hype background. 541 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 2: Yep. 542 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: You don't want to make generalizations on people because you 543 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 1: haven't seen them, you haven't assessed them. But do you 544 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: feel that one of the reasons why golfers struggle to 545 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:23,960 Speaker 1: get better but also struggle with injuries. Do you feel 546 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 1: like because they just they go straight to the right, 547 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,040 Speaker 1: Like if you go to any sporting event with professional 548 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:38,480 Speaker 1: athletes MLB baseball, NBA, NFL, the Premiership in Europe, rugby cricket, 549 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: the warm up now is something they sell. They sell 550 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: come watch the warm up, get down on the field 551 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Do you feel like this is 552 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,200 Speaker 1: one of the reasons why golfers struggle to lower their handicaps, 553 00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 1: struggle to get better. But also we always say golf 554 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,879 Speaker 1: is not a contact sport, right, no one's hitting you, 555 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: You're not running into things. But we see golfers get injured. 556 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 1: We see golfers have injuries. Do you think a dynamic 557 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:11,440 Speaker 1: warm up for fifteen minutes religiously could help stave off 558 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: some of these acts? 559 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 3: It's absolutely imperative. And there's a couple of points here 560 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,200 Speaker 3: to what you were saying. So these sports that we're 561 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 3: talking about, the age brackets for being a lite in 562 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 3: these sports are sort of almost capped at sort of 563 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: at like let's just say thirty to thirty five, right. 564 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: There's a lot of golfers out there that are only 565 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 3: just finding golf of these age brackets, right, And so 566 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 3: they think and golf is one of those sports that 567 00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 3: it allows you to be complacent. I can go pick 568 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 3: up a club, swing a club. It might be a 569 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,560 Speaker 3: little slow, but I can go swing a club and 570 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 3: make good contact and feel a really nice shot. But 571 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,959 Speaker 3: at that point, my body's not warm, it's not prepared 572 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,040 Speaker 3: to do what it's supposed to do. So I might 573 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 3: get away with it for like, you know, ten to 574 00:28:58,000 --> 00:28:59,840 Speaker 3: twenty balls. I might get away with it for like 575 00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 3: three to four days in a row, but it has 576 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 3: a period of time where it starts to become very 577 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 3: degenerative because your body, when it's fatigued, when it's tight, 578 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 3: you lose movement solutions. And when you lose movement solutions, 579 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 3: you start to impact negatively on attendance, our ligaments, our joints, 580 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 3: our body. And so for the golfer out there that's like, 581 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 3: I just don't have time, You're like, well, you need 582 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 3: to make time, because at the end of the day, 583 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 3: you want to be out there playing golf to the 584 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 3: best of your abilities. It's not fun not hitting good shots. 585 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 3: And so when you're not hitting good shots, you start 586 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,320 Speaker 3: looking at either your swing or the way that you 587 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 3: know you're prepping, and then you start to make choices 588 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,479 Speaker 3: based on that. 589 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,880 Speaker 2: So if you do this physical prep religiously. 590 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 3: You're going to stave off, you know, or at least 591 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 3: have the ability to give yourself the best opportunity to 592 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 3: succeed in the best way possible at the best preparation 593 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 3: that you can be in that current state. But most 594 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:56,240 Speaker 3: people are coming from the desk that they've been sitting 595 00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,960 Speaker 3: at for the list and then in the core, yeah, 596 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 3: and in the car and they're going to be so 597 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 3: they walk straight onto the range and they start hitting 598 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 3: some short wedges or some short clubs and you know, 599 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 3: to warm up, and it's like your body's not prepped 600 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 3: for this movement. It is a complex movement. 601 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 1: We're asking the body to do an enormous amount of 602 00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:17,840 Speaker 1: things in a golf swing in a very very short 603 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: period of time, right. 604 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,840 Speaker 3: Yes, And it's it's a complicated movement and the body 605 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 3: has to sort of reason, and it's a one sided sport, 606 00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 3: and so you're constantly driving change on one side of 607 00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:29,240 Speaker 3: the body. 608 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 1: Explain that a little better for people that maybe have 609 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,840 Speaker 1: never heard that concept. But yeah, that is a very 610 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: very important thing to explain and for people to understand dominance. 611 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 3: Why, like eve, at least in tennis, you've kind of 612 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 3: got the other side that you can play like a 613 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 3: backhand or a forehand, so you're kind of moving a 614 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 3: little bit more. 615 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:51,080 Speaker 1: And you are moving in tennis, right, it's action reaction. 616 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: You're not stationary in one plate. 617 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah. 618 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 3: But even if you looked at like Roger Federer's right 619 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 3: arm to his left arm, there's huge differences there. But golf, 620 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: you you swing one side. You're right handed, you swing 621 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 3: on the right side, and that's the way that you 622 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 3: spend the next two hours on the range, and there's 623 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 3: no recovery, there's no reset period if you're just going 624 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 3: from the range then back to the house, grab some dinner, and. 625 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: Go to bed. So there needs to be that that. 626 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: Intermediary experience for the body to then go back toward 627 00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 3: to be reset. Otherwise you continually drive in balance. And 628 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:27,920 Speaker 3: so if you've got a one sided swinging, which we 629 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,720 Speaker 3: all do, if you can swing both sides, fantastic, Like 630 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 3: I know a few people can be very talented individuals, 631 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 3: but it's not something we do a lot in training. 632 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,000 Speaker 3: So we need a way of being able to reset. 633 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:44,160 Speaker 3: And these stretches or these exercises, whatever they may be, 634 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,960 Speaker 3: so you're you know, your daily functional movement patterns. 635 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 2: That you put yourself through, either before you go to 636 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,560 Speaker 2: bed or you. 637 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,440 Speaker 3: Know, during the day or your warm up are extremely 638 00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 3: important because they prep your body from getting out of 639 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 3: your you know, terrible seated nature of what you do 640 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 3: every day, because that's effectively what's going to hold us 641 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,160 Speaker 3: back when we try to do this movement in a 642 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: competent way. 643 00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 1: If you are serious about your golf, right, I always 644 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: think now is a really good time. You know, I've 645 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: just put out a podcast this week about it, you know, 646 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,320 Speaker 1: the off season, yeah, you know, and the things that 647 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:24,120 Speaker 1: you can do in the off season, your new golf 648 00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: performance that are at Audens and Jacksonville. I mean, that's 649 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: a great example of someone coming in and saying Okay, 650 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: we're in the off season, we're maybe not playing tournaments 651 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I'm going to try and make 652 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,719 Speaker 1: some changes and things like that. But that's hard for 653 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: people to do because I think they feel like, yeah, 654 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: you know, I don't really feel comfortable in the gym, 655 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: and you know, I don't really like to take less 656 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 1: than stuff like that. But this bridge between getting your 657 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: body to be prepared to play golf and then having 658 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: your body ready to play golf. Because I hear nick 659 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: so many golfers say to me, I play so much 660 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,080 Speaker 1: better on the back nine than I do on the 661 00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,240 Speaker 1: front nine, and I always say, well, listen, I'm not 662 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: surprised because you went from the car straight to the range, 663 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: you hit a couple of chip shots, and then you 664 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 1: just pulled out driver and you start a pounding driver 665 00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: and you shoot forty five to forty eight on the 666 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: front and you're surprised by that. And then on the 667 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: back you start saying, okay, I'm starting the body is 668 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: starting to feel better. And I mean, how many times 669 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: have I, you know, been around people saying Okay, my 670 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: body's starting to warm up. I'm like, dude, if you 671 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,600 Speaker 1: just just warmed your body up to start. I'm not 672 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 1: saying that you're gonna hit every shot better, but I 673 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 1: am saying that if your body is kind of ready 674 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:44,160 Speaker 1: to have it be done going to the gym. And 675 00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people listening to the podcast 676 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: go to the gym. But if you're gonna go and 677 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 1: have a heavy lift day, or if you're gonna have 678 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: a heavy cardio day, you just don't get out of 679 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,640 Speaker 1: the car, go to the locker room, put your clothes on, 680 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: and then go straight to you know, the chest, and 681 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: just start repping out trying to go for a personal 682 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,840 Speaker 1: vest right now. Immediately you warm up, you do some stretching, 683 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: you do things like that. I just think that the 684 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: golf world is just it's so specific, and everybody thinks 685 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: it's not like everything else. Right if you're living in 686 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 1: you know now as we're getting into some of the 687 00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,800 Speaker 1: colder months in the US and in Europe and stuff 688 00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, the amount of people that are 689 00:34:30,800 --> 00:34:33,360 Speaker 1: going to go out and start their car and have 690 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,880 Speaker 1: their car running while they're getting their cup of coffee, 691 00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: while they're saying goodbye to the wife and kids and 692 00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: their families and stuff, so that when they get in 693 00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: the car, the car's not freezing, the car is ready 694 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:47,839 Speaker 1: to go, they're de icing the car and all those things. 695 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: If they could just have that mindset. I think that 696 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: most golfers, in my opinion, look at the things that 697 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,800 Speaker 1: the best golfers in the world do and their heroes, 698 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,040 Speaker 1: and they're trying to emulate the best golfers in the 699 00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 1: world's talent level, which they don't have. And if they 700 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: would just try and take some of the stuff that 701 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: these players are doing off the course, if they're trying, 702 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 1: if they would try and do some of the stuff 703 00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: that the best players in the world are doing from 704 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,520 Speaker 1: a thinking or a strategy. But you know, in your case, 705 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 1: if they just give me fifteen minutes, just get your 706 00:35:24,760 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 1: body and if you don't want to do any of that, 707 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: you don't want go old school. Do some jumping jacks, 708 00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,880 Speaker 1: do some just air squads, maybe sprint, you know, jog 709 00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: in place, do something to get the machine working. 710 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 3: And this is what I said to you before, like 711 00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,160 Speaker 3: it just set the bar really low. Just do five movements, 712 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 3: do something, because that breeds a good habit and you 713 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 3: continue to want to push, especially when you start to 714 00:35:52,920 --> 00:35:54,759 Speaker 3: see a little bit of a better or a more 715 00:35:55,120 --> 00:35:58,239 Speaker 3: positive result or change. You start hitting some balls straight 716 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 3: away and you're like, oh cool, I'm good, I'm switched on. 717 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: I'm going to go. 718 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 3: You're going to spend five to ten minutes next time, 719 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,320 Speaker 3: You might spend fifteen to twenty minutes the time after 720 00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 3: because those positive changes start to occur. And so I'm 721 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 3: not going to go into the general adaption side of things, 722 00:36:14,719 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 3: but you know, the dentistry industry has been a really good, 723 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:21,719 Speaker 3: you know, way of being able to make an example of, hey, 724 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,560 Speaker 3: we don't want cavities in our teeth, so you brush 725 00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 3: your teeth in the morning, you brush your teeth in 726 00:36:26,719 --> 00:36:29,879 Speaker 3: the evening. Well, guess what, you know, it's the same 727 00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 3: for everything else. And our general adaptive processes are that 728 00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,319 Speaker 3: if you spend fifteen to twenty minutes on a warm up, 729 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 3: pre round or pre you know range, whatever it may be, 730 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,719 Speaker 3: you're going to be way better off in about four 731 00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 3: to five weeks than you are if you didn't do it, 732 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,640 Speaker 3: or if you did one minutes to two minutes. 733 00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 2: So I'm saying like, if you don't have a process, 734 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 2: get a process. 735 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 3: If you haven't thought about the buckets or the time 736 00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 3: frames that you're spending doing you know, different activities within golf. 737 00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,360 Speaker 2: Get a process. You know, if you don't have things 738 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,319 Speaker 2: to work on, find things to work on, but. 739 00:37:04,239 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 3: Like start to get just a little bit more granular 740 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 3: about how you run your body from work to the range, 741 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,040 Speaker 3: from range to home, and think about it if you 742 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 3: do have the time, you know, going through the process 743 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 3: of analysis, going what can I work on that's going 744 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 3: to be a positive thing long term that I can 745 00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 3: affect really good change on because it's not hard. 746 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,320 Speaker 1: The impetus and the reason why you wanted to create 747 00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: your new facility, Audence Golf's performance in Jacksonville, Why did 748 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 1: you want to do it? Talk to us about what 749 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:45,239 Speaker 1: you guys offer, what's available, and what is kind of 750 00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: the ethos and the long term goal for that facility. 751 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:54,719 Speaker 3: So Auden's I spent a long time thinking about what 752 00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 3: I wanted to create. And I've been out on tour 753 00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,720 Speaker 3: for since, you know, like I said, twenty fourteen to fifteen, I've. 754 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 2: Been around the country. 755 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,719 Speaker 3: I've been around the world in different places, and I 756 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 3: haven't really ever seen it being done really well. Where 757 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:09,840 Speaker 3: you can come to a facility, you can be assessed, 758 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 3: you can get coaching, you can get strength and additioning, 759 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:15,600 Speaker 3: you can get physical therapy, you can get mental coaching, 760 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,200 Speaker 3: you can get all of the things that you know 761 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 3: you could potentially need in a performance aspect in the 762 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:27,200 Speaker 3: one place. And that's what Orden's Golf Performance is dedicated to. 763 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:32,720 Speaker 3: It's about driving positive change based on you know, the 764 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,719 Speaker 3: most current assessment methods that we have, so that we 765 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:40,240 Speaker 3: have an evidence based approach to you know, providing good 766 00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 3: interventions for people and interventions just program or implementing something 767 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 3: where we can create positive change. And so an athlete 768 00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 3: comes through the door, we assess them in our ways 769 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:52,960 Speaker 3: that we want to assess them based on what their 770 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,799 Speaker 3: goals are. And so if it's someone who's you know, 771 00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:59,040 Speaker 3: a weekend warrior and they just have a couple of 772 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 3: hours a month to dedicate towards their golf performance, like 773 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,960 Speaker 3: what we were just talking about, we would run them 774 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 3: through what the most low hanging fruit is for them 775 00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 3: to be able to give them a positive outcome. And 776 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,520 Speaker 3: so if it's a you know, a fifteen minute warm up, 777 00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 3: or if it's a you know, a couple of corrective 778 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 3: exercises to get the body moving, or if it's you know, 779 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 3: from a golf coaching standpoint, they're able to come in 780 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:22,719 Speaker 3: and we're able to give them a few, you know, 781 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,480 Speaker 3: things to work on and monitor that process over time 782 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 3: so that we're sort of going towards their goal and 783 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 3: eventual goal. And that's what we're doing, and so I 784 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,640 Speaker 3: didn't see it being done. I think that there's a 785 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,000 Speaker 3: lot of developmental programs out there that off of you know, 786 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,440 Speaker 3: like like your your program in Dubai, which is just fantastic. 787 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,920 Speaker 3: It's a phenomenal facility, and you've got those protocols and 788 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,120 Speaker 3: procedures and those people in place where those kids that 789 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,319 Speaker 3: you've got in there are able to succeed based on 790 00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 3: the on what you've built. And so, you know, taking 791 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 3: that giving that to the public is kind of what 792 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,640 Speaker 3: I wanted to do for Audens. Now, we've got professionals 793 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,759 Speaker 3: in there most of the time, which is awesome, but 794 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,600 Speaker 3: we're also trying to get the weekend warrior in there. 795 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:06,200 Speaker 3: You know, we're trying to get the corn Ferry tour guy. 796 00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:09,840 Speaker 3: But basically, you know or girl that anyone who comes 797 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,040 Speaker 3: into Audence facility is going to have an outcome of 798 00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:16,120 Speaker 3: some sort where they want to get better at golf 799 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,319 Speaker 3: and that's they're the people that we ideally have, you know, 800 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 3: based our work around, and they're the people that we 801 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 3: want to work with. And so Auden's golf performance is 802 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:29,600 Speaker 3: you know, we've got a really good strength conditioning coach 803 00:40:29,719 --> 00:40:33,960 Speaker 3: Mac he's young and energetic. We've got Jacob's physical therapist. 804 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 3: He's elite. His hands on work is unbelievable. Timmy Wilkinson 805 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,960 Speaker 3: or no, Timmy Wilkinson. 806 00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, is our played the PGA Tour. 807 00:40:43,480 --> 00:40:47,480 Speaker 3: PJA Tour for twenty years and he's our high performance coach. 808 00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,840 Speaker 3: So he's someone who looks at the whole picture, the 809 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 3: time management. You know, are you working on the right 810 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:56,080 Speaker 3: things to try and drive positive change? And if you're not, 811 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 3: then we try to provide you with a means of 812 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:02,839 Speaker 3: being able to implement that within your schedule, and we 813 00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:03,839 Speaker 3: look at the whole year. 814 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,000 Speaker 2: We look at an annual plan. 815 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 3: So even if you're someone who just has a penance, 816 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 3: you know, game coming up, or we've got club champs 817 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,200 Speaker 3: or club pros coming up, we try to drive a 818 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 3: program that allows you to be able to succeed at 819 00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:20,160 Speaker 3: those tournaments. So you know whether or not your goals 820 00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 3: are big or small. That's kind of what we're driving about. 821 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: With any of this available online, can people kind of 822 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,319 Speaker 1: do an assessment online and then you know, contact you 823 00:41:29,320 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: guys and say, listen, give me an online package. I 824 00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,359 Speaker 1: live in Dallas, Texas. But I really like the work 825 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:36,919 Speaker 1: that you guys do and I'd really like to try 826 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,360 Speaker 1: and work with you guys. But I live in Dallas. 827 00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,360 Speaker 3: We've got some world class tech in there. We've got gears, 828 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:45,480 Speaker 3: We've got you know, diary system, We've got the ability 829 00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:48,799 Speaker 3: to do virtual consults, and so if you want a 830 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 3: golf lesson virtually we have that. If you want online training, virtually, 831 00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 3: we're able to provide that with some of the programs 832 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,120 Speaker 3: that we have online. If you don't want in person 833 00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 3: training virtually, we have our strengthy conditioning, and fitness programs 834 00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:09,200 Speaker 3: and our rehab programs online that you can purchase month 835 00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,919 Speaker 3: to month if you want, you know, a program where 836 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:13,920 Speaker 3: this is a program I love the most. Like a 837 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,319 Speaker 3: lot of the times I get sort of a little 838 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 3: bit paralyzed with what I want to do because I 839 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:19,879 Speaker 3: just go into a gym and I'm like, cool, I've 840 00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:21,400 Speaker 3: got a program. But sometimes I'm like, I don't only 841 00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:23,439 Speaker 3: want to do that program today. And so I've sort 842 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:27,239 Speaker 3: of dedicated one program to being able to just take 843 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:30,120 Speaker 3: the thought process out of it. So every day of 844 00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 3: the week, you've got you just open up your day 845 00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:35,040 Speaker 3: and then you just walk into the gym and you 846 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:39,000 Speaker 3: do what's assigned for you. And then that's a carefully 847 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:42,440 Speaker 3: curated program that I've built in and around, you know 848 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,520 Speaker 3: what we want to basically push. 849 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:44,960 Speaker 2: Throughout the year. 850 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 3: And then, yeah, that's kind of like my favorite program 851 00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:50,200 Speaker 3: at the moment. I don't have to think about it. 852 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 3: I just log on, I look at what's what's due 853 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 3: for the day, and then I go and do it 854 00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,280 Speaker 3: and then I leave and so it takes the guesswork 855 00:42:57,320 --> 00:43:01,200 Speaker 3: out of it. It's you know, it's it's yeah. I 856 00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,799 Speaker 3: think that that's kind of like my passion project at 857 00:43:03,840 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 3: the moment, probably the most, just because a lot of 858 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,520 Speaker 3: people say that it's just like I just don't know 859 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: what to do and you're like, okay, we'll just jump 860 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,040 Speaker 3: on this program and do it, and you're like, okay, cool. 861 00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,840 Speaker 1: Lastly, Cam Smith had a baby last year. Major Champion. Obviously, 862 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: I think everybody, including yourself and everybody on Cam's team 863 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: and talking to Cam listen, he wished he was performing 864 00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,080 Speaker 1: at a higher level than he has in the past. 865 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,840 Speaker 1: I think a lot of it is is life happens. 866 00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: You know, when these guys go through these things where 867 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: they're having their first children, you know, it's easy to 868 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: kind of your your time gets tough. But what are 869 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: some of his goals for twenty twenty six one of 870 00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: some of the things you know, from your side on 871 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 1: the performance side, what do you think that Cam can 872 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:48,880 Speaker 1: do to kind of get back to being one of 873 00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,799 Speaker 1: the best players in the world, which and you know, 874 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: when he won the Open Championship and beat Rory McRoy 875 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,239 Speaker 1: down the stretch when Rory was in full flow, I 876 00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: think a lot of people thought that Cam was going 877 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,320 Speaker 1: to kick on. I know they are very very important 878 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:03,880 Speaker 1: to Cam. I'd love to see him go down to 879 00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: Australia and win one of these upcoming events. What do 880 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,719 Speaker 1: you feel like Cam needs to do to get him 881 00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:12,560 Speaker 1: back to, you know, the forum that a lot of 882 00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 1: people listening are used to seeing him, you know play. 883 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, really good question. 884 00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,440 Speaker 3: Obviously there's a lot of people that want to to 885 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 3: sort of throw stones and point the finger, and you know, 886 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 3: like when you have a year like this, it's you 887 00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,960 Speaker 3: do have to ask questions. You do have to look 888 00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,359 Speaker 3: at the process and but everything has to be put 889 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:36,360 Speaker 3: into perspective, you know, Like I I recently had a 890 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,920 Speaker 3: little baby as well, and having Ham go through and 891 00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,800 Speaker 3: play the Masters after having a newborn a couple of 892 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 3: weeks beforehand, it was phenomenal. Being able to watch him 893 00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,040 Speaker 3: put everything together and in, you know, in a clear 894 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,360 Speaker 3: and concise way that he did at the Masters was 895 00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:59,239 Speaker 3: something that I am like, I'd just take my hat 896 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 3: off to him because I know the way that I was, 897 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,160 Speaker 3: you know, a couple of weeks into having a kid, 898 00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:07,240 Speaker 3: and I couldn't think straight, I couldn't sleep, I couldn't 899 00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 3: there was just so much going on I was responsible for, 900 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 3: you know, a life that I wasn't responsible for a 901 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 3: couple of weeks before. So if you know what I mean, So, 902 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 3: you know, those life changes that we we encounter every day. 903 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,719 Speaker 3: We we don't think about athletes as people. We just 904 00:45:24,719 --> 00:45:27,200 Speaker 3: want them to perform. We want them to continually perform, 905 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 3: and and then we you know, we ask and we 906 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:34,319 Speaker 3: try to justify, you know, their their outcomes with you know, 907 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,680 Speaker 3: either people that are in the team or the you know, 908 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 3: the performance of the athlete alone and there's no perspective 909 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 3: around it. Cam's not and isn't that far off where 910 00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:46,759 Speaker 3: he was. You know, he had an amazing year in 911 00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,479 Speaker 3: twenty twenty two, one of the best years I've seen, 912 00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,839 Speaker 3: you know, any golfer have. You know where he came out, 913 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:55,400 Speaker 3: He won, you know, the Open, he won, Maui, he 914 00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 3: won the players. You know, these are things that there's 915 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 3: not too many people that have put together have been 916 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 3: able to do. And so to follow that year alone 917 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 3: was going to be really really it's a really hard task. 918 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:10,400 Speaker 3: But you know, to continually meet everyone's expectations on that 919 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 3: year is a hard task as well. There's a lot 920 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,640 Speaker 3: of good golfers out there. The changes with you know, 921 00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:19,360 Speaker 3: tournament play moving into a new endeavor with live albeit 922 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 3: a positive one, it's it is still change, and so 923 00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:26,399 Speaker 3: really trying to figure out I think, you know, from 924 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,399 Speaker 3: a strength conditioning point, from a physical therapy point, from 925 00:46:29,440 --> 00:46:33,400 Speaker 3: a high performance point, is just this year our probably 926 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:33,960 Speaker 3: our goals. 927 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:34,200 Speaker 2: You know. 928 00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,480 Speaker 3: One of the things that he says is he's never 929 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:40,400 Speaker 3: done and he's continually getting better. And that's something that 930 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:42,760 Speaker 3: I think he's tried to install in rip a GC 931 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,480 Speaker 3: and and you know, going from here, twenty twenty six 932 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:48,840 Speaker 3: is going to look pretty positive because I think that 933 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:53,000 Speaker 3: he's just getting hungry, hungrier and hungrier for those results. 934 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:56,400 Speaker 3: He's working harder than he ever has, you know, the 935 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 3: last three months, where you know, traditionally speaking, he might 936 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:02,400 Speaker 3: have you know, a little bit more of downtime because 937 00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 3: he's been pumping it throughout the season. He's been working really, 938 00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 3: really hard, and that's been a really positive sign of 939 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,560 Speaker 3: things to come for twenty twenty six. So you know, 940 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:15,040 Speaker 3: I'm one of his biggest fans, but I'm also one 941 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 3: of his probably his biggest critiques and so critics, and 942 00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 3: I think there's only you know, absolute positive outcomes in 943 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 3: his future. And I'm really happy to say that because 944 00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,279 Speaker 3: everything that I've seen is going to sort of move 945 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 3: towards that as well. 946 00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,880 Speaker 1: Will he ever shave the mustache and get rid of 947 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,480 Speaker 1: the mullet or is that here to stay? 948 00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 2: Would you want him to though? Of course not? 949 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,520 Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean, you think that's here to stay, you, 950 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you think he's going to be my age 951 00:47:40,320 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: and he's still going to be rocking, you know, the 952 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:43,480 Speaker 1: mustache and the mullet. 953 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,000 Speaker 3: I think it's here to stay. I mean it's him. 954 00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,799 Speaker 3: It's a part of It's like it's like would you 955 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:48,960 Speaker 3: cut off one of your arms. 956 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:51,200 Speaker 2: It's a part of him. 957 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,359 Speaker 3: It's stay and I would hate to see him lose that, 958 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,040 Speaker 3: just because you know, I'm sure one day he'll like, 959 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:58,759 Speaker 3: you know, trim it up to the point where it's 960 00:47:58,800 --> 00:47:59,920 Speaker 3: probably not as recognized. 961 00:48:00,280 --> 00:48:02,879 Speaker 2: But at the same time, you know, it's it's still him. 962 00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 3: It's you know, it's a part of his personality. It's 963 00:48:05,600 --> 00:48:07,080 Speaker 3: a part of his character. He's got a lot of 964 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 3: charisma about it. And you know, he's such a good, 965 00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 3: good human and that personality is sort of almost defined 966 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,160 Speaker 3: by some of those physical attributes. 967 00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,279 Speaker 1: So yeah, it's here to stay. 968 00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:20,240 Speaker 2: It's here to stay. 969 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: Great stuff, Nick. You can find Nick Caterroll on their 970 00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:29,320 Speaker 1: social channels at Ouden's Golf That is a U. D E. 971 00:48:29,600 --> 00:48:32,160 Speaker 1: N ASK Golf. I think you're doing some really cool stuff. 972 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:34,000 Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to try and get up and check 973 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: out the new facility. And thanks for talking to us. 974 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 3: I can't wait to have you in there, mate, and 975 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,520 Speaker 3: thanks for having me on here and and all as always, 976 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,399 Speaker 3: can't wait for more coffee hangs and dinners to come. 977 00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,440 Speaker 2: Thank you very much for having me on great stuff,