Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Here she is you, guys,
Speaker 1: the time has come. Our very special guest is with
Speaker 1: us now, Gabrielle car Terrorist Andrea Zuckerman. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: all right, you guys are just doers, creators and makers.
Speaker 1: I think it's awesome that you're doing this show. Thank you.
Speaker 1: We just love working together and we love being with
Speaker 1: you too. So you guys are definitely these women. Just
Speaker 1: so if everybody is, I'm going to always be the cheerleader.
Speaker 1: Truly um innovative, creative, dynamic, courageous, fabulous, great team, so
Speaker 1: deserving of all good things. Really, thanks lady. I miss
Speaker 1: you like we miss like. Oh god, I feel like
Speaker 1: we should all be in Vancouver right now. We were
Speaker 1: all roomies, you guys, I mean pretty much. We had
Speaker 1: that hall we did. We was like being in a dorm,
Speaker 1: you guys at you're talking about when we were shooting.
Speaker 1: pH lived in the same building and we did it
Speaker 1: was on the same floor like summer camp. Jenner and
Speaker 1: I had a two bedroom apartment and Gab was right
Speaker 1: across the hall. And every night a little drink and
Speaker 1: a little every night you got some gossip and some drinks.
Speaker 1: It was really fun. It felt like kind of like
Speaker 1: a rooftop on Sunday. It was too fun. Our scandalous
Speaker 1: bathing suit photo that went firal. All yeah, we still
Speaker 1: got it. That's right there, you go, Oh, my scandalous.
Speaker 1: I think about it. You guys, we were there a
Speaker 1: year ago. I was thinking about this the other day.
Speaker 1: If we had been picked up, we would have been
Speaker 1: shut down. There was a reason that we didn't go
Speaker 1: back right away. Well, we miss you no matter what. Yeah,
Speaker 1: miss you. We were just talking king about what a
Speaker 1: trailblazer your character was, what a champion she was, and
Speaker 1: how cool it is that in your real life you
Speaker 1: are Andrea Zuckerman, like you are a champion for all
Speaker 1: actors out there, for the whole Screen Actors Guild. This
Speaker 1: is what your second or third Yeah, I mean my no,
Speaker 1: I'm going into my five and a half year I
Speaker 1: have I've been in two and a half terms, two
Speaker 1: and a half terms as the president of we don't
Speaker 1: do math. I don't either, so uh okay, wait, So
Speaker 1: we've tried to kind of like tell the story, but
Speaker 1: we can't tell it like you can because it's your story.
Speaker 1: How the name Andrea Adrea. Andrea came to life, and
Speaker 1: we tried to tell it how you told us, which
Speaker 1: was fascinating. You need to tell that story. So when
Speaker 1: I lived in New York before I was out before
Speaker 1: I am out for nine o two one oh before,
Speaker 1: when I really when I got out of college and
Speaker 1: I needed a job, I got into casting and I
Speaker 1: was running camera for a casting director. I was meeting
Speaker 1: her for the first time. Her name was Andrea, and
Speaker 1: I went to shake her hand and I said, it's
Speaker 1: nice to meet you, Andrea. She said, first of all,
Speaker 1: don't touch my hand. I don't touch people's hands. Secondly,
Speaker 1: she said, my name is Andrea, not Andrea, and you
Speaker 1: call me Andrea. If you call me Andrea again, you'll
Speaker 1: never work for me. So I was so profoundly affected
Speaker 1: by that moment that when I auditioned for the role
Speaker 1: of Andrea, who was Andrea at the time, because Darren Starr,
Speaker 1: who created the show, actually named the character after a
Speaker 1: friend of his name, Andrea Wolfe, and um, I think
Speaker 1: that's her last anyway, Andrew was his friend, and so
Speaker 1: what happened was, Um, when I did the audition and
Speaker 1: I say, hi, my name is Andrea, they corrected me,
Speaker 1: and I said, no, no, it's Andrea. I think that's
Speaker 1: why I got the role. So feller Andrea. She corrected
Speaker 1: a room full of executives that, wait, there's more you guys.
Speaker 1: This is going to shock all the fans. Tell them
Speaker 1: what role you Originally? Was that A negociated the deal
Speaker 1: for me, for Brenda and for Andrea. And then I
Speaker 1: got I know, and I'm a twin right, So when
Speaker 1: I came in for to the network for Brenda, I
Speaker 1: came in with a picture of my brother, like that,
Speaker 1: this is my twin brother. He says, Hello, I showed
Speaker 1: the picture. You didn't make a difference. I didn't get that.
Speaker 1: I got it, Like, wow, she's really method. She went
Speaker 1: all out like sting up with that story. You're like, no,
Speaker 1: it's real. Now that I think about it, you kind
Speaker 1: of look more like you could be Brandon's twin right. Yeah, well,
Speaker 1: because because the lighter here or whatever. Let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, gab, do you remember the first time you
Speaker 1: met the rest of the cast, Like, do you have
Speaker 1: vivid recall of that moment? I totally remember. It was
Speaker 1: it Tori's house and I literally had a little rental car.
Speaker 1: Jason said, he could always identify. He said, I think
Speaker 1: she's Andrea because I was sitting with a very small car.
Speaker 1: I didn't have that much money, and I was like
Speaker 1: sitting up really close to the window. I guess, But anyway,
Speaker 1: it was it because you're a tiny gal. You're a
Speaker 1: tiny little top and I don't think I'm sit up
Speaker 1: close too else. But anyway, but I was at Dori's
Speaker 1: house and I remember walking in and being just wow.
Speaker 1: It was it was overwhelming. It was seeing Tori, you
Speaker 1: and Randy, your brother, and he was there. Yes, wait,
Speaker 1: she just spoiled my whole story that I done with
Speaker 1: for thirty years. What was she said? She? She claimed
Speaker 1: that she was upstairs watching us, not meeting the first time. Okay,
Speaker 1: so you just crushed my entire lie just like that,
Speaker 1: my friend. Just second, wait, you guys, I can picture
Speaker 1: myself up there looking now. I'm doubting my whole life.
Speaker 1: I don't even know what happened. I'm not sure. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Eventually came down maybe, but you didn't arrive
Speaker 1: with Iron. Um No, I left with Iron, but I
Speaker 1: did not arrive with Iron. I don't think I can't remember.
Speaker 1: I'm like Jenny when Jenny says, I can't remember. So, Jenny,
Speaker 1: I'm on that train with you. I can't remember, but
Speaker 1: I don't think I went with Iron. But afterwards we
Speaker 1: did go to lunch. We talked about how lucky we were.
Speaker 1: Where did you eat? We ate at Chinchin Plaza. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, they went to eat at Chinchin, you guys.
Speaker 1: Chinchen is like an l A staple like I grew
Speaker 1: up in l A. Like Chinchin was its on Sunset Boulevard,
Speaker 1: Sunset Boule of our Chinese chicken salad, and we had
Speaker 1: dune was and all we talked about where we were
Speaker 1: so excited. It was so amazing and it was so
Speaker 1: it was great, really enjoyed it. So that was the
Speaker 1: first time I met you all. And then Luke came
Speaker 1: later when he went to check and Karen's was it
Speaker 1: for the second read through? Was for this? Maybe it
Speaker 1: was the second episode. Oh, I don't think I was
Speaker 1: that that one either, because I don't remember that. Finally,
Speaker 1: something saying a theme wait gap, wait wait wait wait
Speaker 1: wait sorry is there I gotta back up here because
Speaker 1: if we got you here so you walk in. Is
Speaker 1: that the first time that you saw met Jason and Shannon,
Speaker 1: like first time, totally first time for everybody. All I
Speaker 1: can remember is being scared to death believe I was
Speaker 1: your father was there. I was like, I look at Tori,
Speaker 1: I didn't you. People came up to me saying, would
Speaker 1: you like us to give you you? Would you like
Speaker 1: a coffee something to drink? I was like, huh, I
Speaker 1: mean a cigarette? Would you like a siarette? Everybody's it
Speaker 1: was just a different. I was totally different. It was
Speaker 1: the introduction to Hollywood for me. It was really just
Speaker 1: so Look, I was coming from New York and I
Speaker 1: could barely make my rent and then I was suddenly
Speaker 1: in l a in your father, you know, in your
Speaker 1: home with your father who is so iconic, right, so iconic,
Speaker 1: and then uh and getting ready to you know, read
Speaker 1: through this show. I couldn't. I couldn't even take a breath.
Speaker 1: It was everything was just too It was big. I mean, Jenny,
Speaker 1: now my life's like the flip of that. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's like I had to say, you are one of
Speaker 1: the most resourceful people. Though you are definitely one to
Speaker 1: create a great life. There's never I will never ever
Speaker 1: worry about you because you are just well that might
Speaker 1: be a whole different thing, but I would tell you
Speaker 1: about getting through everything. You always get through. It will
Speaker 1: be so wait. A running theme and we didn't even
Speaker 1: plan this on this show is about um again, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna ask. I'm gonna hit him up to to pay
Speaker 1: us for this is the dreamy Jason Priestley in his
Speaker 1: blue eyes, like when you met him where you like, Oh,
Speaker 1: this guy's a star, Like what did you think? I mean?
Speaker 1: For all intents and purposes, he like watching this episode
Speaker 1: that we're on now, episode five, I was saying earlier,
Speaker 1: I was like, I just want like I'm hopeless romantic
Speaker 1: and I was like, I just wanted Andrea and Brandon
Speaker 1: to be together, like they had such good chemistry. I
Speaker 1: have to say that when I met Jason, you know,
Speaker 1: I love Jason. So quickly we became I felt a
Speaker 1: connection with him. He's been a very good friend to
Speaker 1: me through all these years. I mean really a great friend.
Speaker 1: And guys, they're seriously super close, Like it wasn't just
Speaker 1: on TV. They were like super best friends in real life,
Speaker 1: still neighbors. Well now he's shooting in Toronto and the
Speaker 1: whole family's out with him right now because of you
Speaker 1: know what's going on, but you know I had to
Speaker 1: say so. When I first started on nine o two,
Speaker 1: I was petrified. I was petrified, and um, I remember
Speaker 1: being at the school to do a scene. It was
Speaker 1: a long walking scene and I just started to hyper ventilate.
Speaker 1: Did I ever tell you the story it was? I mean,
Speaker 1: I couldn't let you guys know that I was so petrified.
Speaker 1: I mean really, everybody overwhelmed me. The whole thing was
Speaker 1: just and I couldn't remember my lines. I just I
Speaker 1: felt like I was going to pass out. I don't
Speaker 1: know what happened. I was freaked out, and Jason took
Speaker 1: me aside and he said, this is your time. Don't
Speaker 1: you worry. You take your time. He was so loving
Speaker 1: and supportive, and I got through it. I thought they
Speaker 1: were going to fire me. They didn't fire me, but um,
Speaker 1: he always always has been there as uh somebody who's
Speaker 1: really I really trust, he has my back. He's a
Speaker 1: really and such a great guy, like just a good
Speaker 1: being who really wants a great family and a great life.
Speaker 1: And he's Yeah, I clearly I was at the moment
Speaker 1: the bonded. You guys, do you think I think that
Speaker 1: moment really to find your relationship. Okay, can we talk
Speaker 1: about his eyes though? Can I get back to that?
Speaker 1: And his eyes are really he's you know, he's a
Speaker 1: handsome guy, but he has beautiful hunk of hunk of
Speaker 1: burning love. And Jenny gets you're not doing it this week.
Speaker 1: She gets very flustered talking about Jason, who doesn't I
Speaker 1: mean no, like, we know him so well. He's just
Speaker 1: Jason to us and we know him now. But kind
Speaker 1: of rewatching that show and seeing him, you know, playing
Speaker 1: that sixth year old boy, You're just like, wow, you
Speaker 1: have all the feels like girly feels like what do
Speaker 1: you think the guys? That's what Even my daughters who
Speaker 1: saw the show all these years later, because they went
Speaker 1: to watch it last year before we shot, and so
Speaker 1: they decided to sit down, they said, oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's so cute. Mom. I mean the guys, there was
Speaker 1: no there was a reason why the guys were so
Speaker 1: loved by the girls. They were the perfect choice. For sure.
Speaker 1: It all works out. And now look at Brian. I'm
Speaker 1: still blown away. When we worked with him last year
Speaker 1: and I hadn't seen him since we had really you know,
Speaker 1: shot the show, and I can't believe. I always say
Speaker 1: he really grew up to be one fine looking huncle.
Speaker 1: Would I like a real man? Watch it? Watch what
Speaker 1: you say about my man. Don't worry him for life.
Speaker 1: That's right, it will always be true. Do you who?
Speaker 1: Who do you remember? Um? Like, who did you think
Speaker 1: because your character ended up marrying guy Jesse, he wasn't
Speaker 1: like a core cast member. Who did you think Andrea
Speaker 1: should have been with? I don't know. I think that
Speaker 1: you know what? I think that? Um, it was great.
Speaker 1: First of all, Mark was great to have, but I
Speaker 1: have to say that they shied away. And Jason had
Speaker 1: said it you can't put Andrea and Brandon together because
Speaker 1: the audience, because he said they loved the tension of
Speaker 1: almost seeing us together and not being together. It was
Speaker 1: kind of like, I forget the name of the show.
Speaker 1: That to the cheers, No, no, the detective show. She
Speaker 1: was lighting lighting whed like moonlighting. That's good to her.
Speaker 1: I got something right for once. Yeah, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: don't know, Like, who would you guys with your characters?
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, you guys discovered your friendship
Speaker 1: as we went through the show, right, you weren't right
Speaker 1: in the beginning, right, she doesn't remember me, so apparently
Speaker 1: not the two of us. No, no, we Yeah, our
Speaker 1: friendship definitely grew over the years, but I remember we
Speaker 1: started hanging. Yeah, we were close because we were always together,
Speaker 1: our scenes were together. At the very beginning, I was like,
Speaker 1: the head on your shoulder, it was the Kelly and
Speaker 1: I would just be like, and your son. I remember
Speaker 1: going um apartment shopping with you when we were must
Speaker 1: have been the first season because you didn't have the
Speaker 1: place to live. Well, I didn't know l A and
Speaker 1: I literally so I didn't know what the valley was.
Speaker 1: We got you a nice little spot on Yes, you
Speaker 1: did on Kester Kester, and you were the one you
Speaker 1: said this is he said I would stay. I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't know where we were, Like, what is this
Speaker 1: because I got an apartment on Burton Way. I flew
Speaker 1: out here and got an apartment. Goes we might be
Speaker 1: shooting in a place called Sunland and you might want
Speaker 1: to live in the valley, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: don't know what the valley is. And that's when I
Speaker 1: called Jenny crying, yeah, and she said I'll go with
Speaker 1: you because I drove literally in circles over the canyon back.
Speaker 1: There's a great apartment complex right down the street from
Speaker 1: a place called Vivid Video. Everyone's going towards it. Oh
Speaker 1: my goodness, up yes, wait, wait, you can't do this
Speaker 1: to us. Look, I'm like, I want popcorn right now
Speaker 1: to watch this. I'm so excited. Listen, you can't do
Speaker 1: this test. There must be something in you that thinks
Speaker 1: on some level that Andrean Brandon should have ended up together.
Speaker 1: I know the fans that, but I can't say that
Speaker 1: in front of Jenny because Jenny feels right, it's all right,
Speaker 1: Kelly's Kelly, Jenny ear muffs, ear muffs? Should it should
Speaker 1: have been Brandon? If we were to do another what
Speaker 1: would have happened? What would have happened? Like, how would
Speaker 1: have played out? Tell her? How well? How would you
Speaker 1: have written it? How would you written it to Because
Speaker 1: you're the one who's the story, Maven, How would you
Speaker 1: let me confer it with my partner here? I think
Speaker 1: that I think you're definitely right that something. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's great you quote at Moonlighting like that's a perfect
Speaker 1: example sexual attention for so long and then at the
Speaker 1: end of the day the audience want I mean, they
Speaker 1: really do. If you talk to the fans, they loved
Speaker 1: the notion of, like, one day Andrea and Brandon are
Speaker 1: going to get together. It's what all of us girls are,
Speaker 1: us hopeless romantics out there. We wanted it. Not that
Speaker 1: Andrea was the underdog, but she was the girl next door.
Speaker 1: She represented you know, she wasn't the cool, hot, popular girl,
Speaker 1: but she had all of that. Oh, I was saying
Speaker 1: this episode, when you wear your hair back and you
Speaker 1: had a white collar shirt and a tie on and pants,
Speaker 1: you looked in your glasses so freaking hot. That like
Speaker 1: that is understated's sexy. Yeah she don't you think she
Speaker 1: was giving off like Meg Ryan vibes. Yes, yeah, Meg Ryan.
Speaker 1: So she just nailed it. Harry met Sally wanted them
Speaker 1: to be together. They should have been together long time.
Speaker 1: I will look at you, guys. We're going to do
Speaker 1: the show again someday. Right, the geriatric Ward out to
Speaker 1: one old old You know what, I can't I'm so honest.
Speaker 1: I can't take credit for that. Jason threw that one
Speaker 1: out last summer. I'm sorry. I have to. I have
Speaker 1: to give him credit for credits. Eyes bring me, damn eyes.
Speaker 1: I have to say it was a very good looking cast.
Speaker 1: I mean, really, when you think about it, all really beautiful.
Speaker 1: You guys are gorgeous. Gee, thanks, just complimenting each other.
Speaker 1: I never got in on the show. If I had
Speaker 1: been cast five years later, they wouldn't have had me
Speaker 1: go in for the odd because by the time the
Speaker 1: show really started to move on, I think it got
Speaker 1: into I think everybody is very attractive on our show,
Speaker 1: but it became a show about beauty, and I think
Speaker 1: everybody was so pretty. Um, I don't think I don't
Speaker 1: know what you're talking. What language are you speaking right now?
Speaker 1: You are beautiful? You were, I don't. I don't think
Speaker 1: that it's the thing. I just I don't think I
Speaker 1: have the you are. It would have five years later,
Speaker 1: it would have happened. That's that's okay, guys. I love
Speaker 1: my life. I'm good. I'm happy. Good you are. You've
Speaker 1: always been happy wherever you are. You're just content and happy,
Speaker 1: and I've always loved that about you. Oh, I don't
Speaker 1: work hard. We'll see crazy. It's been crazy, man. So
Speaker 1: who else have you had on this show? You our first,
Speaker 1: our first cast members. You broke our o G cast member,
Speaker 1: Cherry you go. I'm so happy that I could be
Speaker 1: the person to do that. I'm so honored. I wanted
Speaker 1: to tell me all about the show since I know you.
Speaker 1: What made you guys decide to do it? The podcast
Speaker 1: you're talking about, well, I thought you were talking about
Speaker 1: b h U two And this sounds like a similar
Speaker 1: conversation that we had like a year and a half ago.
Speaker 1: It's like recurring. Oh so when things are recurring in
Speaker 1: your life, you keep doing it till you do it right.
Speaker 1: To me, this time we're doing it right. Remember were
Speaker 1: those five stars? You guys? We need a five star
Speaker 1: rating right. Make sure you know that we're always just
Speaker 1: looking for ways where we can hang out together and
Speaker 1: work together. And you know, our bond is so strong
Speaker 1: and just like our bond with you and the rest
Speaker 1: of the cast, just being with people that you're comfortable
Speaker 1: with and that you love forever and always on such
Speaker 1: a deep level, there's so much comfort in that. Like,
Speaker 1: of course, we want to keep working together and keep
Speaker 1: working with you and the rest of the cast. Stopping
Speaker 1: but we have some rapid fire questions that we wanted
Speaker 1: to ask you, Gabrielle, I won't remember anything, but fine, okay,
Speaker 1: well there they should be easy from the cast. Who
Speaker 1: would you call to bail you out of jail? Well,
Speaker 1: now that answer might be different than it would have
Speaker 1: been a year character. I would say in real life,
Speaker 1: it all what i'd call the girl, actually call, I'd
Speaker 1: call almost anybody on the almost right. Absolutely, you have
Speaker 1: to live on a deserted island with one other cast member?
Speaker 1: Who is it? Oh my god, don't feel obligated to
Speaker 1: choose one of them. You never asked us this question, says,
Speaker 1: because it's on the island, Can I have each person
Speaker 1: be living on a different section so I can rotate
Speaker 1: her round? Oh my god, of course it's going to
Speaker 1: compartmentalize everybody. Yeah, don't ever get us all together, though,
Speaker 1: because that's just a design awful. Nothing gets done when
Speaker 1: we're all together. Don't you miss like dinner and drinks
Speaker 1: at Gab's house. Well, here's a throwback one. See if
Speaker 1: you can remember what did you buy with your first
Speaker 1: Nano too? I no big paycheck. You guys can all
Speaker 1: answer these if you want. Yeah, what did you guys get? Boobs? Sorry?
Speaker 1: Could you me up? I couldn't get it? I know mine?
Speaker 1: Go you go, Gab, though it was your story. I
Speaker 1: went to the mall and it was it was express,
Speaker 1: remember oh limited express or what? Yeah, and like a
Speaker 1: shopping spree like bags of like clothes and I was
Speaker 1: super excited. Nothing interesting. Oh and then boobs, So mine
Speaker 1: would have been I think my big purchase it didn't
Speaker 1: happen right away, was a car because I didn't have
Speaker 1: one from l A. And then boots. What kind of
Speaker 1: car was it? Oh my god, we're the fake boot gang. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Oh my god. That's what all actors
Speaker 1: do when they get famous, they get boobs. I mean
Speaker 1: during that during that time where there was a lot
Speaker 1: of pressure on each of us individually to look a
Speaker 1: certain way, you know, and I feel like none of
Speaker 1: us escaped that. With you, I blame because, first of all,
Speaker 1: and it's older than all of them. So I used
Speaker 1: to like go home and cry. My husband. You guys
Speaker 1: knew after I had had my first daughter. So as
Speaker 1: I was lactating, as we're doing our cast shot and
Speaker 1: they all look so beautiful and I cannot just gave
Speaker 1: birth and I literally sat there crying like you can't
Speaker 1: you have to hide my body. I can't be in
Speaker 1: front of him. Was how much were you then when
Speaker 1: you when you did the pilot, when you started the show,
Speaker 1: Like how old were you and how were you were
Speaker 1: supposed to be on the show. I supposed to be
Speaker 1: sixteen and I was twenty nine? What I mean, scream
Speaker 1: that loud and proud because nine I was young and
Speaker 1: babe delicious looking like you. I feel like people knew,
Speaker 1: like it was kind of in the press that you
Speaker 1: were older than you were playing. But I feel like
Speaker 1: if people did not ever know that and have that perception,
Speaker 1: like when I watch it now, like watching rewatching it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, she was so cool. She was like I
Speaker 1: would never have thought you weren't sixteen. I thought maybe
Speaker 1: nineteen twenty, I would not twenty nine. No old lady.
Speaker 1: My gosh, I was an old lady and they were
Speaker 1: like all it was just a different It was so
Speaker 1: great last year coming together after all these years because
Speaker 1: I started off early on being a mom, right I
Speaker 1: got married and it was everything on the show, and
Speaker 1: then they started later on, so everybody coming together this
Speaker 1: last year was amazing to see everybody with their families
Speaker 1: and his parents with their kids, and uh, it was
Speaker 1: so different to see everybody in there in their lives,
Speaker 1: like really owning their lives. We were kind of in
Speaker 1: the beginning, kind of thrust into our lives, right, But
Speaker 1: that was really, uh, just amazing. I have to say,
Speaker 1: the whole thing was so wonderful as your Your wedding
Speaker 1: was the first wedding I had ever attended. Your kidding.
Speaker 1: I was trying to be cool, but like, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I have a friend
Speaker 1: getting married. I was like, you know, I was like eighteen.
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm so cool. One of my friends
Speaker 1: is getting married on Santa Barbara for her. That's right,
Speaker 1: it was in Santa Barbara. But I mean, I have
Speaker 1: pictures of you guys. It was great pictures. But I
Speaker 1: gotta say so last summer I was hanging out for
Speaker 1: b H and nine all living together in Vancouver. It
Speaker 1: was I mean, you're freely talking about how we were
Speaker 1: in our teens when we started. You were I had
Speaker 1: no idea you were twenty nine. Um, but you were
Speaker 1: twenty nine. So we were just on different paths at
Speaker 1: the time and it all balanced out. It's kind of
Speaker 1: like when you're young and you have an older brother
Speaker 1: or sister and you're like, god, we're never on the
Speaker 1: same terms, Like they're always doing something a little bit different,
Speaker 1: and then some in your lives you catch up. And
Speaker 1: that happened like we caught up. Like when I was young,
Speaker 1: I felt like nurtured and mothered by you. I did.
Speaker 1: I looked up to you, and last summer put it
Speaker 1: into perspective that you were just my friend. You're my
Speaker 1: friend for life. And it took all these years to
Speaker 1: come to that balance. And it was so beautiful. The
Speaker 1: relationship three of us had last summer. We'll always have that.
Speaker 1: I loved when we went out there, it was the
Speaker 1: three of us before everybody was really out there and
Speaker 1: we had been. We lived in the same building together,
Speaker 1: and it was it was wonderful to be with you guys.
Speaker 1: I loved it. I really. I was nervous about it.
Speaker 1: It was to go to Vancouver and leaving the family.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of you know, things, to do, our
Speaker 1: show again, whatever it was going to be, it wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna work. Then to be able to sit down and
Speaker 1: really be with you and I just to really it
Speaker 1: was a wonderful. I felt like it was a real blessing,
Speaker 1: just great. We really believe, like God, why didn't this continue?
Speaker 1: I didn't work out. It was what the fans wanted,
Speaker 1: but maybe it worked out the way it was supposed
Speaker 1: to work out because it was the journey we all
Speaker 1: needed exactly it was for us. Maybe we love that
Speaker 1: we gave it to them, but maybe it was just
Speaker 1: something special for all of us, I think, And that's
Speaker 1: okay too. I remember when we did the thing a
Speaker 1: couple of years ago in Chicago, I said this to you,
Speaker 1: but but truly when Jenny and I were driving back
Speaker 1: to the city and talking, really talking for the first
Speaker 1: time about really the experience of being on nine o
Speaker 1: one in the early years, and it was great, but
Speaker 1: there was a lot going on there and things we
Speaker 1: never talked about. It was so great, and that's that
Speaker 1: was a really inspiration for me to want to do
Speaker 1: the show again too, because being in the car with
Speaker 1: you was so told a different story than we had
Speaker 1: we never shared, and I thought this really great. And
Speaker 1: then it was the process of developing the show, watching
Speaker 1: you guys in your thought process. I I don't say
Speaker 1: it lightly, I mean I really I was so and
Speaker 1: I talked about you all the time, very impressed with
Speaker 1: your your courage, but you're you're really in depth way
Speaker 1: of looking at things the details. I mean, I just
Speaker 1: thought so much to be proud of. I hope that
Speaker 1: you guys can own that. I hope that that was
Speaker 1: something that came out of it for you a year
Speaker 1: ago to help you see who you really what you're
Speaker 1: But you guys are really capable of what you're creating.
Speaker 1: Thanks gam. It was definitely a great experience. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: remember that conversation in the car, And I remember, I
Speaker 1: mean because as a young girl growing up on the
Speaker 1: show and in that environment, I feel like I was
Speaker 1: developmentally a lot further behind than you. Like you you
Speaker 1: were already twenty nine, You had already like kind of
Speaker 1: figured out who you were a little bit more, and
Speaker 1: you had your feet firmly planted on the ground. And
Speaker 1: I think, speaking for myself, I did not have that,
Speaker 1: And and doing the show for ten years and then
Speaker 1: having like the fame and the sort of um everything
Speaker 1: that came with that for all the years, I never
Speaker 1: really got my feet on the ground until I was
Speaker 1: forty years old, until I had a moment to breathe
Speaker 1: to figure out who I was and like what what
Speaker 1: I wanted to be and how I wanted to show
Speaker 1: up and and it's so weird to now be adults
Speaker 1: and able to share have that conversation with each other
Speaker 1: and and get it in a different way because we
Speaker 1: were close back then, but we're just the it's such
Speaker 1: a different closeness now. It's different and being parents making
Speaker 1: decisions we have to make, you know, like real life
Speaker 1: stuff right like when you're younger, you know, buying all
Speaker 1: the clothes, because that was the first you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like all the things that we do, and
Speaker 1: it just changes. It's just do you mind sharing a
Speaker 1: little bit, just because I love this story. When we
Speaker 1: first got together last summer, we were you know, before
Speaker 1: last summer we were going to make b H nine
Speaker 1: O two and oh, and we had some nights together
Speaker 1: where we all I kind of got to like talk
Speaker 1: about the past and things we had never said to
Speaker 1: each other, and we were having drinks and it was
Speaker 1: fun and you shared how you felt with the rest
Speaker 1: of the cast that we never knew, Like do you
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? That what I said, I
Speaker 1: felt I felt separate the idea that you guys were. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it was really exciting and it was really hard. I
Speaker 1: was definitely I felt that you all were in the
Speaker 1: same universe, and I was just kind of I was
Speaker 1: lying about my age, and so in a sense, I
Speaker 1: didn't tell you my age right up either. So that
Speaker 1: came out of an interview that went on People magazine.
Speaker 1: They were interviewing one of you guys asked me a
Speaker 1: question and then I got a call. So they asked
Speaker 1: how old I was, and I said, I don't play age.
Speaker 1: I played character. I thought that was brilliant. But then
Speaker 1: I got a call from the writers sending to start
Speaker 1: saying that now that's good, right, And then he said
Speaker 1: we and this is before the internet, really right, So
Speaker 1: I we have friends at the d m V, the
Speaker 1: Department of Motor Vehicles, and we know your age and
Speaker 1: we're going to post it. Did I tell you the story?
Speaker 1: And I said, you can't post my age. They don't
Speaker 1: know my age. I lied on the contract. I talked
Speaker 1: to the lawyers. I signed. You know that I was
Speaker 1: twenty one, so I was allowed to do that. And
Speaker 1: I said, if you do that, I lose my job.
Speaker 1: And he said, and I had my lawyer's call, I
Speaker 1: had my agent, my manager, everybody call. They would not
Speaker 1: take it off. And I remember crying, saying this is
Speaker 1: the end. This is the end. But the show just
Speaker 1: started to become popular, and as a result of that,
Speaker 1: they did not fire me. But I have no doubt
Speaker 1: that if they had known my age, I never would
Speaker 1: have walked into that room. I mean, that's but anyway,
Speaker 1: I always felt really um, you know, just never quite
Speaker 1: as not pretty enough, not like in it enough. I
Speaker 1: was always feeling like outside I was older, and it
Speaker 1: was just it was it was hard. It was already
Speaker 1: an isolating show in some ways. I think because the
Speaker 1: thing it became hot so fast that everybody already was
Speaker 1: kind of like in protective mode because nobody really knew
Speaker 1: how to And then I didn't know how to say
Speaker 1: to you. I'm feeling, you know, a little bit lost,
Speaker 1: and I didn't know how to say to you guys
Speaker 1: all that because you maybe saw me as being like
Speaker 1: when you say, oh, Gabriel, you were you were older,
Speaker 1: so you were ground it or whatever. I didn't feel
Speaker 1: all that you might have you know, I'm quieter about
Speaker 1: that whatever. But and we looked up to you. Your
Speaker 1: character was also isolated from the rest of the kids,
Speaker 1: you know, so I can see how that would lend
Speaker 1: even more isolation. Yeah, but when Gab told us, told
Speaker 1: John and I this last year, we had that moment
Speaker 1: where we were like, oh my god, we felt bad.
Speaker 1: We were like, god, we were just kids. Did we
Speaker 1: make you feel that way? We would never But we
Speaker 1: didn't know we were going. We were figuring our stuff out,
Speaker 1: like we were just going through the motions of being
Speaker 1: a teenager and kind of exploding on TV. And the
Speaker 1: fact is like, we loved you, and we wish we
Speaker 1: would have known then so we could have been like,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, we're best girlfriends, like let's just figure this out.
Speaker 1: And we never knew. And it was empowering yet heartbreaking
Speaker 1: at the same time to hear you talk about something
Speaker 1: that happened thirty years ago that were like, shoot, we're
Speaker 1: just now getting it right. I got I think it
Speaker 1: was you know, I don't think of it that way
Speaker 1: at all. I think that it's really interesting that we
Speaker 1: do come full circle in our lives. I think that's
Speaker 1: really the opportunity to be able to revisit and to
Speaker 1: see and I, you know what we talked about this
Speaker 1: gen when we were in the car. It's true, during
Speaker 1: those earlier years, they did everything they could to keep
Speaker 1: us separate in some ways like to keep us together.
Speaker 1: You know, we were together, but it was very important.
Speaker 1: It was a power play I think in the studio.
Speaker 1: And what made last year so great also was because
Speaker 1: we all talked about stuff, so the power came from
Speaker 1: the group. It was a really different tight I really
Speaker 1: appreciated that, that feeling that we were truly uh we
Speaker 1: were living as a healthy family. Yeah the power. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 1: so different. Gosh, well, they say families always messed up, right,
Speaker 1: so we we got it right. We figured it out.
Speaker 1: We didn't even have therapy. We just did together. Well,
Speaker 1: we did have therapy on an episode Carol Potter who's
Speaker 1: now a therapist, people circle to play the therapist that heck,
Speaker 1: so good, this is all making sense now, it's all
Speaker 1: wild wild And then yeah, it was just I thought
Speaker 1: it was anyway. It was a really wonderful experience, everything
Speaker 1: that went on, And I think you're right, Tory. I
Speaker 1: think it was just meant to be just for that
Speaker 1: maybe for that time. But um, that's okay. I feel
Speaker 1: like in some ways a big expense to Fox, but
Speaker 1: we kind of all needed that, like we needed that
Speaker 1: one summer together. I can't believe they haven't even reared
Speaker 1: it yet. Oh, I never deleted it. It's still in
Speaker 1: my DVR, know, I mean the New nine o two. Oh,
Speaker 1: I mean there's been no reruns on it. I heard
Speaker 1: there were, and some episodes aren't there, like episode two
Speaker 1: or something is not there. You hear that? What is that?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean sometimes I think because I
Speaker 1: just watched Cobra Kai the other day because I want
Speaker 1: to see that. It was so good. It's like the
Speaker 1: show about Karate Kid, the movie. So it's the characters
Speaker 1: like later in life, and it's a series now and
Speaker 1: it's so good. You guys gotta watch it, um because
Speaker 1: they're older and it's now about their kids. No, it's not.
Speaker 1: I mean their kids are in it, but it's still
Speaker 1: about them, Like Ralph Machio is the star of it
Speaker 1: and Johnny I can't he's the star. And they're so good,
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of in love with Elizabeth both of them. No,
Speaker 1: but they keep teasing that Elizabeth shoes come in. Alan's
Speaker 1: going to come back. Yeah. So anyway, I was saying, like,
Speaker 1: in watching you know, a reboot done like a straight
Speaker 1: reboot like that, I wonder if like how people feel
Speaker 1: how people feel about like Should we have just done
Speaker 1: a straight reboot. Should we have just played Kelly and
Speaker 1: Andrea and Donna and given the people exactly what they
Speaker 1: thought they wanted. There was a moment in time where
Speaker 1: we came in strong that we wanted to do it
Speaker 1: our way, heightened versions of ourselves that would have led
Speaker 1: into semi showing the characters nowadays you know what they
Speaker 1: were up to and kind of splitting it. And remember Gab,
Speaker 1: there was a moment where some casts agreed and some didn't,
Speaker 1: and we were all like, Okay, let's talk this out
Speaker 1: how it should be. That was really interesting because I
Speaker 1: actually thought it was going to be maybe the other way,
Speaker 1: and then I talked about it. I think that you're
Speaker 1: talking about it. This was Yes, there were some people
Speaker 1: who wanted it to be a pure reboot, but the majority,
Speaker 1: I think of what brought people forward was the idea
Speaker 1: that it wasn't. I don't know that. I don't think
Speaker 1: the show could have happened if we had done a
Speaker 1: straight reboot. I don't think the people emotionally now if
Speaker 1: you were to just say it because we went through
Speaker 1: last year, that would be different too. I think that
Speaker 1: people did not have closure and so they didn't want
Speaker 1: to go and redo the characters, and they didn't want to,
Speaker 1: but I think they were carrying a lot of baggage
Speaker 1: with them on it. I think we all yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that's but every so at first I was thinking
Speaker 1: was gonna be the other And then when Tory and
Speaker 1: Jenny talked about and you guys talked about doing this
Speaker 1: like hyper, I couldn't even grasp what you were talking about.
Speaker 1: And then I thought, what the hell? I mean, you
Speaker 1: know what, there's no sure thing here. I don't know
Speaker 1: what it's supposed to look like, but that's something that's different.
Speaker 1: I could really embrace that. I'd rather do something being
Speaker 1: different and exciting and fail then just something boring. And
Speaker 1: you know, life is too short. If anything, we've learned right,
Speaker 1: so um, yeah, I mean I look at it and
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it would have been cool to play
Speaker 1: Kelly again and be the characters again and just create
Speaker 1: a whole new world as that. But I also feel
Speaker 1: like we did something that hadn't been done before, and
Speaker 1: it was it was more exciting and more fulfilling, you know,
Speaker 1: as a creator, as a writer, and all of us
Speaker 1: creating together and coming together to figure out what we
Speaker 1: wanted the show to be and how we wanted our
Speaker 1: characters to be. There was something so unifying about that
Speaker 1: and so strengthening and affirming. I just thought it was
Speaker 1: a really good experience overall. They got to see our
Speaker 1: characters for ten years on a show. They got to
Speaker 1: see how those characters were written, and we wanted them
Speaker 1: to know that our bond was equally as close, if
Speaker 1: not closer, off camera. So that's why we wanted to
Speaker 1: give them that perspective. I don't know no regrets, but
Speaker 1: but hey, you guys, if you want to start a
Speaker 1: petition to like bring it back after you give us
Speaker 1: five stars yet that you should totally do that. Hey,
Speaker 1: a lot of things have like made comebacks. As a fan,
Speaker 1: I thought it was so creative what you guys did
Speaker 1: with having it be like reality TV meets script um.
Speaker 1: But I also don't think that it's completely off the
Speaker 1: table to do the reboot where you guys you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, who's to say you can't do
Speaker 1: it in a few years. Never say never. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna shout out boobs again because then we'll laugh at thought.
Speaker 1: Jen just lost five years off her life. You just
Speaker 1: her she just literally had BTSD and lost five years. No,
Speaker 1: I would always love to work with you guys. Again,
Speaker 1: I never turned my back on this ship. And you
Speaker 1: don't need everyone and they don't agree. Maybe it's just
Speaker 1: you guys. I think we should do a movie. I
Speaker 1: think we should if we did a movie and just
Speaker 1: did one great thing. We don't have to do the
Speaker 1: series like that, but we could do a movie a
Speaker 1: year on where we're at. How's that? Yes? Do it
Speaker 1: for me? Thank you to somebody? Who am to somebody?
Speaker 1: Am I doing it for sis? Yeah? For me? Maybe
Speaker 1: I do it for Ryan Seacrest, not for you. I'm
Speaker 1: just for the fans. I am the voice of the fans.
Speaker 1: There you go, tell me how tell me about the show?
Speaker 1: When is it? When you guys airing it's a podcast.
Speaker 1: Your podcasters now gaps. So we say, like, oh, check
Speaker 1: out our last episode dropping it dropped. Yeah, it comes,
Speaker 1: it drops on Monday's every Monday's a new episode. We're
Speaker 1: only on season one, episode five, so we have, like,
Speaker 1: you know, ten more years of doing this. You have
Speaker 1: to watch show you're gonna do and then we'll just
Speaker 1: draw it out, watch out. We just watched every episode
Speaker 1: we watched Sometimes Will Be on the Phone Together. Fifth
Speaker 1: episode was one on one, the basketball episode, and yeah,
Speaker 1: you were. You were assisting Brandon in his troubles. So
Speaker 1: what was the line that Andrea said in this episode
Speaker 1: of your Favorite say you say something Steve Sanders is
Speaker 1: a spoiled slut. Oh, but we wanted to add for
Speaker 1: you because we're not sure if you said sleut or slug. Well,
Speaker 1: I'm sure they had me say slug. Can you imagine
Speaker 1: them saying letting me say that it was slut. There
Speaker 1: would be no way you guys, cannot wear a Jewish
Speaker 1: star on the show. I definitely couldn't say slut. Can
Speaker 1: you tell that story that he couldn't wear Jewish star
Speaker 1: where I couldn't go and touch my black boyfriend? Which one?
Speaker 1: Oh wow, seriously, guys, a sign of the times, totally
Speaker 1: a sign of the times. A Jewish woman that could
Speaker 1: not wear a Jewish characters are around. I can't write, well,
Speaker 1: you are her character as well. It's a storyline all
Speaker 1: that stuff in real life. I said when to wear
Speaker 1: my Jewish star? And I get a call from the
Speaker 1: network saying, Gabriel, actually from one of the producers, you
Speaker 1: can't wear your Jewish star anymore. Middle America doesn't want
Speaker 1: to see it. I told you this, and then I said,
Speaker 1: oh really, because if I have to take off my
Speaker 1: Jewish star, then everybody has to take off their crosses.
Speaker 1: And so it's so true. We all wore crosses. That
Speaker 1: like that was like not even a religious thing. It's
Speaker 1: just like an r so that and tell okay. And
Speaker 1: then your character was dating. I was dating so because
Speaker 1: we were very progressive, right, so they actually without a question,
Speaker 1: it was fine. I had a black boyfriend, the nicest guy, um,
Speaker 1: but I was not allowed to put my I went
Speaker 1: and put my arm around him one day, and no,
Speaker 1: you don't touch him. You can't touch him. Why can't
Speaker 1: I touch him? Again? Middle America was blamed Middle Middle
Speaker 1: America doesn't want to see it. And I said, well,
Speaker 1: we're together, don't. I mean, you know what don't they
Speaker 1: want to see? There was I'd take offense to that.
Speaker 1: I'm from the Midwest, I'm from Middle America, and i
Speaker 1: have no problem with you touching your black I'm telling
Speaker 1: you it was a sign of the times. And like
Speaker 1: Network like, it wasn't even the viewers, it wasn't Middle America.
Speaker 1: It was network executives that were conservative and that were nervous.
Speaker 1: They were nervous like pressing the envelope because what if
Speaker 1: it's not received. Well, that's right. It was all older
Speaker 1: white guys everything, and they wanted the status quo, what
Speaker 1: was safe and and so even though they wanted to
Speaker 1: and you know, God bless your father, right wants to
Speaker 1: like step in, but not too far. We can't go
Speaker 1: and touch. And it wasn't a matter of the times
Speaker 1: because then it was several years later. They even said
Speaker 1: when I went to have my baby on the show,
Speaker 1: that they didn't really know how to write it. And
Speaker 1: then it was a couple of years later that they
Speaker 1: really started to embrace as you guys started to have
Speaker 1: your kids and all that, they were able to really
Speaker 1: start to make it happen. But they was so much
Speaker 1: controversy around my character when I had my baby, she's
Speaker 1: so smart, she would never get pregnant. Oh really, smart
Speaker 1: people don't get pregnant. I mean, it's like but anyway,
Speaker 1: there was a lot of there's a lot about that
Speaker 1: time that people just didn't and then you were like,
Speaker 1: screw this. When we all get get together thirty years
Speaker 1: later and to b h I'm going to make out
Speaker 1: with a woman on the shelf. Right, that's her idea.
Speaker 1: You guys like, so good you I love it. Gabrielle
Speaker 1: is the last laugh. Oh my god, that people as
Speaker 1: all the time I was watching you make out on
Speaker 1: camera with that girl and you were that was your day.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's so sexy. You know. It
Speaker 1: was like Ard remember trying his daughter arrived and apparently
Speaker 1: she was behind you know, she was the monitor right,
Speaker 1: she was watching and she was going like this with her. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was standing right next to her. She was like
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable watching. That was like me behind the monitor.
Speaker 1: When you had to kiss Jason for the first time
Speaker 1: as the characters Jenny and Jason on BH know, and
Speaker 1: I like had my headphones on and I came over
Speaker 1: to her. I'm like, there's too much remember, Yeah, thanks
Speaker 1: for the notes. When I had a kiss Jason in
Speaker 1: the early years, director and I can't remember who it was,
Speaker 1: he said, put your tongue in his mouth. What we
Speaker 1: were talking about this last week, like the tongue of
Speaker 1: it all. So a director actually told you put your
Speaker 1: tongue in his mouth. Don't tell him and just do
Speaker 1: it because he wanted the shock of it. Oh see,
Speaker 1: if you put it that way, that's kind of like,
Speaker 1: oh you want to see like to get to move
Speaker 1: that feeling from the actor. I get it. But like,
Speaker 1: can you imagine now a man coming up to a
Speaker 1: girl and being like, stick your tongue out. No, right,
Speaker 1: that's a no. You can't say that. No. I don't
Speaker 1: think you'd have to tell them beforehand that you're going
Speaker 1: to do that. You have to be a but ea, wait, okay,
Speaker 1: did you put your tongue in Jason Priestley's mouth? You did?
Speaker 1: I love you. I'm not afraid I'll kiss a girl.
Speaker 1: I'll kiss Jason. It's okay. I love you, love you,
Speaker 1: that's not a problem. She's well, ladies, I hate to
Speaker 1: be the bear of bad news, but we have to wrap.
Speaker 1: I know we could do this all day, and then
Speaker 1: we have and we will. We'll have to have you
Speaker 1: come back on the show. Please. I think that we
Speaker 1: have to come to my house and shoot it and
Speaker 1: we'll just have drinks and dinner. You can join us,
Speaker 1: and okay, you can cook from that. I'll look a
Speaker 1: great meal. My promise. Everybody who comes. We love you.
Speaker 1: I really do miss you. Guys, I'm so happy for you.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen in, I'm gonna make sure everybody's listening
Speaker 1: and give you those five stars five stars and so
Speaker 1: you're gonna do great and then and then we're gonna
Speaker 1: try to get together. I hope I would love to
Speaker 1: do that. So yeah, thank you you guys. Make it
Speaker 1: happy girl, Thank you. I'm not fabulous. Stay safe. What
Speaker 1: she just did it? She did it? What is this?
Speaker 1: And inside now to jokes in the Jenny sees me.
Speaker 1: This is how they see me, not how I see
Speaker 1: Come on, everybody, I mean I kind of see it.
Speaker 1: Let's go, okay, Sorry, I just needed to sit with
Speaker 1: that for a little bit. All right, you guys, thank you,
Speaker 1: good luck, goodbye everybody. That was fun. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: oh I miss that. I the sh out of her.
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like when you see when you see
Speaker 1: each other, when we see each other, when you see
Speaker 1: anybody from the old show, like you see them, and
Speaker 1: you just your heart feels full again and you just
Speaker 1: want more. I want more. I want to spend more
Speaker 1: time with her, and it's not like a day is
Speaker 1: pasted like that. That's a true sign of friendship when
Speaker 1: you can not see someone for a while, not be together,
Speaker 1: and then when you're together, you just can't stop talking
Speaker 1: and just I don't know, it's it's a show i'd
Speaker 1: watch as a fan. I was just sitting back and
Speaker 1: like freaking out because that warm, fuzzy feeling is felt
Speaker 1: by us fans too, Like it's not I mean, you
Speaker 1: guys are love is real each other. But you can
Speaker 1: feel the love, you feel the connection, you feel the
Speaker 1: sisterhood between you guys, and it's so cute good. I'm
Speaker 1: glad you can feel it. Sis. Yeah, I felt like
Speaker 1: I was part of you guys group. You were like
Speaker 1: the younger sister. You were like me. When they had
Speaker 1: the read through peering out through the stairs watching see
Speaker 1: Gavin meant she didn't have a good memory. So I'm
Speaker 1: telling you right now she did not get that one right,
Speaker 1: and I was saying she was wrong. Okay, we'll go
Speaker 1: back to your story then, tour. Okay, thank you,