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Speaker 1: With Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Here she is you, guys,

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Speaker 1: the time has come. Our very special guest is with

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Speaker 1: us now, Gabrielle car Terrorist Andrea Zuckerman. Oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: all right, you guys are just doers, creators and makers.

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Speaker 1: I think it's awesome that you're doing this show. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: We just love working together and we love being with

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Speaker 1: you too. So you guys are definitely these women. Just

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Speaker 1: so if everybody is, I'm going to always be the cheerleader.

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Speaker 1: Truly um innovative, creative, dynamic, courageous, fabulous, great team, so

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Speaker 1: deserving of all good things. Really, thanks lady. I miss

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Speaker 1: you like we miss like. Oh god, I feel like

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Speaker 1: we should all be in Vancouver right now. We were

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Speaker 1: all roomies, you guys, I mean pretty much. We had

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Speaker 1: that hall we did. We was like being in a dorm,

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Speaker 1: you guys at you're talking about when we were shooting.

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Speaker 1: pH lived in the same building and we did it

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Speaker 1: was on the same floor like summer camp. Jenner and

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Speaker 1: I had a two bedroom apartment and Gab was right

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Speaker 1: across the hall. And every night a little drink and

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Speaker 1: a little every night you got some gossip and some drinks.

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Speaker 1: It was really fun. It felt like kind of like

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Speaker 1: a rooftop on Sunday. It was too fun. Our scandalous

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Speaker 1: bathing suit photo that went firal. All yeah, we still

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Speaker 1: got it. That's right there, you go, Oh, my scandalous.

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Speaker 1: I think about it. You guys, we were there a

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Speaker 1: year ago. I was thinking about this the other day.

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Speaker 1: If we had been picked up, we would have been

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Speaker 1: shut down. There was a reason that we didn't go

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Speaker 1: back right away. Well, we miss you no matter what. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: miss you. We were just talking king about what a

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Speaker 1: trailblazer your character was, what a champion she was, and

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Speaker 1: how cool it is that in your real life you

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Speaker 1: are Andrea Zuckerman, like you are a champion for all

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Speaker 1: actors out there, for the whole Screen Actors Guild. This

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Speaker 1: is what your second or third Yeah, I mean my no,

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Speaker 1: I'm going into my five and a half year I

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Speaker 1: and a half terms as the president of we don't

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Speaker 1: do math. I don't either, so uh okay, wait, So

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Speaker 1: we've tried to kind of like tell the story, but

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Speaker 1: we can't tell it like you can because it's your story.

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Speaker 1: How the name Andrea Adrea. Andrea came to life, and

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Speaker 1: we tried to tell it how you told us, which

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Speaker 1: was fascinating. You need to tell that story. So when

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Speaker 1: I lived in New York before I was out before

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Speaker 1: I am out for nine o two one oh before,

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Speaker 1: when I really when I got out of college and

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Speaker 1: I needed a job, I got into casting and I

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Speaker 1: was running camera for a casting director. I was meeting

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Speaker 1: her for the first time. Her name was Andrea, and

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Speaker 1: I went to shake her hand and I said, it's

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Speaker 1: she said, my name is Andrea, not Andrea, and you

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Speaker 1: call me Andrea. If you call me Andrea again, you'll

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Speaker 1: never work for me. So I was so profoundly affected

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Speaker 1: by that moment that when I auditioned for the role

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Speaker 1: of Andrea, who was Andrea at the time, because Darren Starr,

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Speaker 1: friend of his name, Andrea Wolfe, and um, I think

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Speaker 1: what happened was, Um, when I did the audition and

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Speaker 1: why I got the role. So feller Andrea. She corrected

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Speaker 1: This is going to shock all the fans. Tell them

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Speaker 1: what role you Originally? Was that A negociated the deal

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Speaker 1: for me, for Brenda and for Andrea. And then I

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Speaker 1: came in with a picture of my brother, like that,

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Speaker 1: I got it, Like, wow, she's really method. She went

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Speaker 1: vivid recall of that moment? I totally remember. It was

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Speaker 1: Jason said, he could always identify. He said, I think

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Speaker 1: she just spoiled my whole story that I done with

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Speaker 1: so you just crushed my entire lie just like that,

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Speaker 1: myself up there looking now. I'm doubting my whole life.

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what happened. I'm not sure. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. Eventually came down maybe, but you didn't arrive

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Speaker 1: did not arrive with Iron. I don't think I can't remember.

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Speaker 1: I'm like Jenny when Jenny says, I can't remember. So, Jenny,

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Speaker 1: I don't think I went with Iron. But afterwards we

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Speaker 1: did go to lunch. We talked about how lucky we were.

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Speaker 1: Where did you eat? We ate at Chinchin Plaza. Oh

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Speaker 1: my god, they went to eat at Chinchin, you guys.

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Speaker 1: It was everything was just too It was big. I mean, Jenny,

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Speaker 1: create a great life. There's never I will never ever

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Speaker 1: And his eyes are really he's you know, he's a

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Speaker 1: and then some in your lives you catch up. And

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00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: that happened like we caught up. Like when I was young,

425
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 1: I felt like nurtured and mothered by you. I did.

426
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,119
Speaker 1: I looked up to you, and last summer put it

427
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: into perspective that you were just my friend. You're my

428
00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: friend for life. And it took all these years to

429
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,040
Speaker 1: come to that balance. And it was so beautiful. The

430
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:28,640
Speaker 1: relationship three of us had last summer. We'll always have that.

431
00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: I loved when we went out there, it was the

432
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: three of us before everybody was really out there and

433
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:37,000
Speaker 1: we had been. We lived in the same building together,

434
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: and it was it was wonderful to be with you guys.

435
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: I loved it. I really. I was nervous about it.

436
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:45,600
Speaker 1: It was to go to Vancouver and leaving the family.

437
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: There's a lot of you know, things, to do, our

438
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: show again, whatever it was going to be, it wasn't

439
00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: gonna work. Then to be able to sit down and

440
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 1: really be with you and I just to really it

441
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: was a wonderful. I felt like it was a real blessing,

442
00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: just great. We really believe, like God, why didn't this continue?

443
00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: I didn't work out. It was what the fans wanted,

444
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: but maybe it worked out the way it was supposed

445
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,160
Speaker 1: to work out because it was the journey we all

446
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:16,920
Speaker 1: needed exactly it was for us. Maybe we love that

447
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:18,679
Speaker 1: we gave it to them, but maybe it was just

448
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: something special for all of us, I think, And that's

449
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 1: okay too. I remember when we did the thing a

450
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,280
Speaker 1: couple of years ago in Chicago, I said this to you,

451
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:28,720
Speaker 1: but but truly when Jenny and I were driving back

452
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: to the city and talking, really talking for the first

453
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,280
Speaker 1: time about really the experience of being on nine o

454
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: one in the early years, and it was great, but

455
00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 1: there was a lot going on there and things we

456
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 1: never talked about. It was so great, and that's that

457
00:27:45,520 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 1: was a really inspiration for me to want to do

458
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 1: the show again too, because being in the car with

459
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 1: you was so told a different story than we had

460
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: we never shared, and I thought this really great. And

461
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,480
Speaker 1: then it was the process of developing the show, watching

462
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 1: you guys in your thought process. I I don't say

463
00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,520
Speaker 1: it lightly, I mean I really I was so and

464
00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:11,400
Speaker 1: I talked about you all the time, very impressed with

465
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: your your courage, but you're you're really in depth way

466
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:20,159
Speaker 1: of looking at things the details. I mean, I just

467
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: thought so much to be proud of. I hope that

468
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: you guys can own that. I hope that that was

469
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,640
Speaker 1: something that came out of it for you a year

470
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:30,920
Speaker 1: ago to help you see who you really what you're

471
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: But you guys are really capable of what you're creating.

472
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: Thanks gam. It was definitely a great experience. Yeah, I

473
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: remember that conversation in the car, And I remember, I

474
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: mean because as a young girl growing up on the

475
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: show and in that environment, I feel like I was

476
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 1: developmentally a lot further behind than you. Like you you

477
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: were already twenty nine, You had already like kind of

478
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: figured out who you were a little bit more, and

479
00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: you had your feet firmly planted on the ground. And

480
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: I think, speaking for myself, I did not have that,

481
00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: And and doing the show for ten years and then

482
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:14,160
Speaker 1: having like the fame and the sort of um everything

483
00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: that came with that for all the years, I never

484
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 1: really got my feet on the ground until I was

485
00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: forty years old, until I had a moment to breathe

486
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: to figure out who I was and like what what

487
00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: I wanted to be and how I wanted to show

488
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: up and and it's so weird to now be adults

489
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 1: and able to share have that conversation with each other

490
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 1: and and get it in a different way because we

491
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: were close back then, but we're just the it's such

492
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: a different closeness now. It's different and being parents making

493
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,720
Speaker 1: decisions we have to make, you know, like real life

494
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 1: stuff right like when you're younger, you know, buying all

495
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 1: the clothes, because that was the first you know what

496
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Like all the things that we do, and

497
00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: it just changes. It's just do you mind sharing a

498
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 1: little bit, just because I love this story. When we

499
00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: first got together last summer, we were you know, before

500
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: last summer we were going to make b H nine

501
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 1: O two and oh, and we had some nights together

502
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: where we all I kind of got to like talk

503
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: about the past and things we had never said to

504
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: each other, and we were having drinks and it was

505
00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: fun and you shared how you felt with the rest

506
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: of the cast that we never knew, Like do you

507
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm talking about? That what I said, I

508
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:39,959
Speaker 1: felt I felt separate the idea that you guys were. Yeah,

509
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:42,959
Speaker 1: it was really exciting and it was really hard. I

510
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: was definitely I felt that you all were in the

511
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,200
Speaker 1: same universe, and I was just kind of I was

512
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: lying about my age, and so in a sense, I

513
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: didn't tell you my age right up either. So that

514
00:30:54,960 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 1: came out of an interview that went on People magazine.

515
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: They were interviewing one of you guys asked me a

516
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: question and then I got a call. So they asked

517
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:05,320
Speaker 1: how old I was, and I said, I don't play age.

518
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 1: I played character. I thought that was brilliant. But then

519
00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: I got a call from the writers sending to start

520
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: saying that now that's good, right, And then he said

521
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: we and this is before the internet, really right, So

522
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,200
Speaker 1: I we have friends at the d m V, the

523
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: Department of Motor Vehicles, and we know your age and

524
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 1: we're going to post it. Did I tell you the story?

525
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,440
Speaker 1: And I said, you can't post my age. They don't

526
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,760
Speaker 1: know my age. I lied on the contract. I talked

527
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: to the lawyers. I signed. You know that I was

528
00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: twenty one, so I was allowed to do that. And

529
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: I said, if you do that, I lose my job.

530
00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: And he said, and I had my lawyer's call, I

531
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: had my agent, my manager, everybody call. They would not

532
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: take it off. And I remember crying, saying this is

533
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: the end. This is the end. But the show just

534
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 1: started to become popular, and as a result of that,

535
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: they did not fire me. But I have no doubt

536
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 1: that if they had known my age, I never would

537
00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,800
Speaker 1: have walked into that room. I mean, that's but anyway,

538
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 1: I always felt really um, you know, just never quite

539
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: as not pretty enough, not like in it enough. I

540
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: was always feeling like outside I was older, and it

541
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: was just it was it was hard. It was already

542
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:19,120
Speaker 1: an isolating show in some ways. I think because the

543
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 1: thing it became hot so fast that everybody already was

544
00:32:22,880 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: kind of like in protective mode because nobody really knew

545
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 1: how to And then I didn't know how to say

546
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: to you. I'm feeling, you know, a little bit lost,

547
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: and I didn't know how to say to you guys

548
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: all that because you maybe saw me as being like

549
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 1: when you say, oh, Gabriel, you were you were older,

550
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: so you were ground it or whatever. I didn't feel

551
00:32:42,240 --> 00:32:44,960
Speaker 1: all that you might have you know, I'm quieter about

552
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 1: that whatever. But and we looked up to you. Your

553
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: character was also isolated from the rest of the kids,

554
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: you know, so I can see how that would lend

555
00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: even more isolation. Yeah, but when Gab told us, told

556
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: John and I this last year, we had that moment

557
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 1: where we were like, oh my god, we felt bad.

558
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: We were like, god, we were just kids. Did we

559
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: make you feel that way? We would never But we

560
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: didn't know we were going. We were figuring our stuff out,

561
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,320
Speaker 1: like we were just going through the motions of being

562
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:19,120
Speaker 1: a teenager and kind of exploding on TV. And the

563
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 1: fact is like, we loved you, and we wish we

564
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: would have known then so we could have been like,

565
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: oh gosh, we're best girlfriends, like let's just figure this out.

566
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:33,959
Speaker 1: And we never knew. And it was empowering yet heartbreaking

567
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,719
Speaker 1: at the same time to hear you talk about something

568
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,840
Speaker 1: that happened thirty years ago that were like, shoot, we're

569
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: just now getting it right. I got I think it

570
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: was you know, I don't think of it that way

571
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: at all. I think that it's really interesting that we

572
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 1: do come full circle in our lives. I think that's

573
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: really the opportunity to be able to revisit and to

574
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: see and I, you know what we talked about this

575
00:33:57,760 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 1: gen when we were in the car. It's true, during

576
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: those earlier years, they did everything they could to keep

577
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: us separate in some ways like to keep us together.

578
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: You know, we were together, but it was very important.

579
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 1: It was a power play I think in the studio.

580
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,880
Speaker 1: And what made last year so great also was because

581
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:18,239
Speaker 1: we all talked about stuff, so the power came from

582
00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: the group. It was a really different tight I really

583
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: appreciated that, that feeling that we were truly uh we

584
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:30,920
Speaker 1: were living as a healthy family. Yeah the power. Yeah, wow,

585
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:36,360
Speaker 1: so different. Gosh, well, they say families always messed up, right,

586
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,520
Speaker 1: so we we got it right. We figured it out.

587
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: We didn't even have therapy. We just did together. Well,

588
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: we did have therapy on an episode Carol Potter who's

589
00:34:45,920 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: now a therapist, people circle to play the therapist that heck,

590
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 1: so good, this is all making sense now, it's all

591
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:59,959
Speaker 1: wild wild And then yeah, it was just I thought

592
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: it was anyway. It was a really wonderful experience, everything

593
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,319
Speaker 1: that went on, And I think you're right, Tory. I

594
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,000
Speaker 1: think it was just meant to be just for that

595
00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:11,319
Speaker 1: maybe for that time. But um, that's okay. I feel

596
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 1: like in some ways a big expense to Fox, but

597
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: we kind of all needed that, like we needed that

598
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: one summer together. I can't believe they haven't even reared

599
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: it yet. Oh, I never deleted it. It's still in

600
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: my DVR, know, I mean the New nine o two. Oh,

601
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 1: I mean there's been no reruns on it. I heard

602
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: there were, and some episodes aren't there, like episode two

603
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:39,239
Speaker 1: or something is not there. You hear that? What is that?

604
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean sometimes I think because I

605
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: just watched Cobra Kai the other day because I want

606
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: to see that. It was so good. It's like the

607
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,920
Speaker 1: show about Karate Kid, the movie. So it's the characters

608
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: like later in life, and it's a series now and

609
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: it's so good. You guys gotta watch it, um because

610
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,920
Speaker 1: they're older and it's now about their kids. No, it's not.

611
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: I mean their kids are in it, but it's still

612
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: about them, Like Ralph Machio is the star of it

613
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: and Johnny I can't he's the star. And they're so good,

614
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: and I'm kind of in love with Elizabeth both of them. No,

615
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: but they keep teasing that Elizabeth shoes come in. Alan's

616
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: going to come back. Yeah. So anyway, I was saying, like,

617
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,720
Speaker 1: in watching you know, a reboot done like a straight

618
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 1: reboot like that, I wonder if like how people feel

619
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:29,959
Speaker 1: how people feel about like Should we have just done

620
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 1: a straight reboot. Should we have just played Kelly and

621
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: Andrea and Donna and given the people exactly what they

622
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 1: thought they wanted. There was a moment in time where

623
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,040
Speaker 1: we came in strong that we wanted to do it

624
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: our way, heightened versions of ourselves that would have led

625
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,200
Speaker 1: into semi showing the characters nowadays you know what they

626
00:36:48,200 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: were up to and kind of splitting it. And remember Gab,

627
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: there was a moment where some casts agreed and some didn't,

628
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: and we were all like, Okay, let's talk this out

629
00:36:57,160 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: how it should be. That was really interesting because I

630
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 1: actually thought it was going to be maybe the other way,

631
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:06,040
Speaker 1: and then I talked about it. I think that you're

632
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: talking about it. This was Yes, there were some people

633
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: who wanted it to be a pure reboot, but the majority,

634
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,359
Speaker 1: I think of what brought people forward was the idea

635
00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 1: that it wasn't. I don't know that. I don't think

636
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: the show could have happened if we had done a

637
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: straight reboot. I don't think the people emotionally now if

638
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: you were to just say it because we went through

639
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: last year, that would be different too. I think that

640
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,880
Speaker 1: people did not have closure and so they didn't want

641
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 1: to go and redo the characters, and they didn't want to,

642
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: but I think they were carrying a lot of baggage

643
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 1: with them on it. I think we all yeah, I

644
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:41,719
Speaker 1: think that's but every so at first I was thinking

645
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: was gonna be the other And then when Tory and

646
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,839
Speaker 1: Jenny talked about and you guys talked about doing this

647
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: like hyper, I couldn't even grasp what you were talking about.

648
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: And then I thought, what the hell? I mean, you

649
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 1: know what, there's no sure thing here. I don't know

650
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: what it's supposed to look like, but that's something that's different.

651
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 1: I could really embrace that. I'd rather do something being

652
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: different and exciting and fail then just something boring. And

653
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,000
Speaker 1: you know, life is too short. If anything, we've learned right,

654
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 1: so um, yeah, I mean I look at it and

655
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,879
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it would have been cool to play

656
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: Kelly again and be the characters again and just create

657
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: a whole new world as that. But I also feel

658
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:23,480
Speaker 1: like we did something that hadn't been done before, and

659
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 1: it was it was more exciting and more fulfilling, you know,

660
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: as a creator, as a writer, and all of us

661
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: creating together and coming together to figure out what we

662
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 1: wanted the show to be and how we wanted our

663
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: characters to be. There was something so unifying about that

664
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,800
Speaker 1: and so strengthening and affirming. I just thought it was

665
00:38:40,840 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: a really good experience overall. They got to see our

666
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: characters for ten years on a show. They got to

667
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,879
Speaker 1: see how those characters were written, and we wanted them

668
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 1: to know that our bond was equally as close, if

669
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,080
Speaker 1: not closer, off camera. So that's why we wanted to

670
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,800
Speaker 1: give them that perspective. I don't know no regrets, but

671
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: but hey, you guys, if you want to start a

672
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: petition to like bring it back after you give us

673
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: five stars yet that you should totally do that. Hey,

674
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,719
Speaker 1: a lot of things have like made comebacks. As a fan,

675
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was so creative what you guys did

676
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 1: with having it be like reality TV meets script um.

677
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: But I also don't think that it's completely off the

678
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 1: table to do the reboot where you guys you know

679
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,920
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like, who's to say you can't do

680
00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:38,239
Speaker 1: it in a few years. Never say never. I'm just

681
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: gonna shout out boobs again because then we'll laugh at thought.

682
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: Jen just lost five years off her life. You just

683
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: her she just literally had BTSD and lost five years. No,

684
00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,439
Speaker 1: I would always love to work with you guys. Again,

685
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,440
Speaker 1: I never turned my back on this ship. And you

686
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,279
Speaker 1: don't need everyone and they don't agree. Maybe it's just

687
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: you guys. I think we should do a movie. I

688
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 1: think we should if we did a movie and just

689
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: did one great thing. We don't have to do the

690
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: series like that, but we could do a movie a

691
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: year on where we're at. How's that? Yes? Do it

692
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: for me? Thank you to somebody? Who am to somebody?

693
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 1: Am I doing it for sis? Yeah? For me? Maybe

694
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,120
Speaker 1: I do it for Ryan Seacrest, not for you. I'm

695
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,760
Speaker 1: just for the fans. I am the voice of the fans.

696
00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 1: There you go, tell me how tell me about the show?

697
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: When is it? When you guys airing it's a podcast.

698
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,200
Speaker 1: Your podcasters now gaps. So we say, like, oh, check

699
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: out our last episode dropping it dropped. Yeah, it comes,

700
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: it drops on Monday's every Monday's a new episode. We're

701
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 1: only on season one, episode five, so we have, like,

702
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, ten more years of doing this. You have

703
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 1: to watch show you're gonna do and then we'll just

704
00:40:54,840 --> 00:41:00,480
Speaker 1: draw it out, watch out. We just watched every episode

705
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,439
Speaker 1: we watched Sometimes Will Be on the Phone Together. Fifth

706
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:08,600
Speaker 1: episode was one on one, the basketball episode, and yeah,

707
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 1: you were. You were assisting Brandon in his troubles. So

708
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: what was the line that Andrea said in this episode

709
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 1: of your Favorite say you say something Steve Sanders is

710
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: a spoiled slut. Oh, but we wanted to add for

711
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: you because we're not sure if you said sleut or slug. Well,

712
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: I'm sure they had me say slug. Can you imagine

713
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: them saying letting me say that it was slut. There

714
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 1: would be no way you guys, cannot wear a Jewish

715
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: star on the show. I definitely couldn't say slut. Can

716
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 1: you tell that story that he couldn't wear Jewish star

717
00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 1: where I couldn't go and touch my black boyfriend? Which one?

718
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 1: Oh wow, seriously, guys, a sign of the times, totally

719
00:41:55,000 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: a sign of the times. A Jewish woman that could

720
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 1: not wear a Jewish characters are around. I can't write, well,

721
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: you are her character as well. It's a storyline all

722
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: that stuff in real life. I said when to wear

723
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: my Jewish star? And I get a call from the

724
00:42:10,080 --> 00:42:13,279
Speaker 1: network saying, Gabriel, actually from one of the producers, you

725
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:16,359
Speaker 1: can't wear your Jewish star anymore. Middle America doesn't want

726
00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: to see it. I told you this, and then I said,

727
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 1: oh really, because if I have to take off my

728
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,560
Speaker 1: Jewish star, then everybody has to take off their crosses.

729
00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:27,719
Speaker 1: And so it's so true. We all wore crosses. That

730
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 1: like that was like not even a religious thing. It's

731
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 1: just like an r so that and tell okay. And

732
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 1: then your character was dating. I was dating so because

733
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: we were very progressive, right, so they actually without a question,

734
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: it was fine. I had a black boyfriend, the nicest guy, um,

735
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: but I was not allowed to put my I went

736
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,320
Speaker 1: and put my arm around him one day, and no,

737
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 1: you don't touch him. You can't touch him. Why can't

738
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:57,760
Speaker 1: I touch him? Again? Middle America was blamed Middle Middle

739
00:42:57,760 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: America doesn't want to see it. And I said, well,

740
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:03,200
Speaker 1: we're together, don't. I mean, you know what don't they

741
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: want to see? There was I'd take offense to that.

742
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: I'm from the Midwest, I'm from Middle America, and i

743
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,880
Speaker 1: have no problem with you touching your black I'm telling

744
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:12,640
Speaker 1: you it was a sign of the times. And like

745
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 1: Network like, it wasn't even the viewers, it wasn't Middle America.

746
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:21,320
Speaker 1: It was network executives that were conservative and that were nervous.

747
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: They were nervous like pressing the envelope because what if

748
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:27,240
Speaker 1: it's not received. Well, that's right. It was all older

749
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:31,919
Speaker 1: white guys everything, and they wanted the status quo, what

750
00:43:32,000 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: was safe and and so even though they wanted to

751
00:43:35,280 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 1: and you know, God bless your father, right wants to

752
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: like step in, but not too far. We can't go

753
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: and touch. And it wasn't a matter of the times

754
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 1: because then it was several years later. They even said

755
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: when I went to have my baby on the show,

756
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: that they didn't really know how to write it. And

757
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: then it was a couple of years later that they

758
00:43:53,480 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: really started to embrace as you guys started to have

759
00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,400
Speaker 1: your kids and all that, they were able to really

760
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 1: start to make it happen. But they was so much

761
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:03,680
Speaker 1: controversy around my character when I had my baby, she's

762
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:08,080
Speaker 1: so smart, she would never get pregnant. Oh really, smart

763
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: people don't get pregnant. I mean, it's like but anyway,

764
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: there was a lot of there's a lot about that

765
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: time that people just didn't and then you were like,

766
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 1: screw this. When we all get get together thirty years

767
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: later and to b h I'm going to make out

768
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,680
Speaker 1: with a woman on the shelf. Right, that's her idea.

769
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:33,600
Speaker 1: You guys like, so good you I love it. Gabrielle

770
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: is the last laugh. Oh my god, that people as

771
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,239
Speaker 1: all the time I was watching you make out on

772
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 1: camera with that girl and you were that was your day.

773
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,279
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, it's so sexy. You know. It

774
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:51,759
Speaker 1: was like Ard remember trying his daughter arrived and apparently

775
00:44:51,840 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: she was behind you know, she was the monitor right,

776
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 1: she was watching and she was going like this with her. Oh,

777
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 1: I was standing right next to her. She was like

778
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:08,120
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable watching. That was like me behind the monitor.

779
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: When you had to kiss Jason for the first time

780
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 1: as the characters Jenny and Jason on BH know, and

781
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,080
Speaker 1: I like had my headphones on and I came over

782
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:24,800
Speaker 1: to her. I'm like, there's too much remember, Yeah, thanks

783
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:28,880
Speaker 1: for the notes. When I had a kiss Jason in

784
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,440
Speaker 1: the early years, director and I can't remember who it was,

785
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: he said, put your tongue in his mouth. What we

786
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: were talking about this last week, like the tongue of

787
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: it all. So a director actually told you put your

788
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:47,040
Speaker 1: tongue in his mouth. Don't tell him and just do

789
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:50,439
Speaker 1: it because he wanted the shock of it. Oh see,

790
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: if you put it that way, that's kind of like,

791
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: oh you want to see like to get to move

792
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,799
Speaker 1: that feeling from the actor. I get it. But like,

793
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: can you imagine now a man coming up to a

794
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,279
Speaker 1: girl and being like, stick your tongue out. No, right,

795
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: that's a no. You can't say that. No. I don't

796
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: think you'd have to tell them beforehand that you're going

797
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: to do that. You have to be a but ea, wait, okay,

798
00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: did you put your tongue in Jason Priestley's mouth? You did?

799
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:22,160
Speaker 1: I love you. I'm not afraid I'll kiss a girl.

800
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: I'll kiss Jason. It's okay. I love you, love you,

801
00:46:30,520 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 1: that's not a problem. She's well, ladies, I hate to

802
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 1: be the bear of bad news, but we have to wrap.

803
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: I know we could do this all day, and then

804
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 1: we have and we will. We'll have to have you

805
00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: come back on the show. Please. I think that we

806
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 1: have to come to my house and shoot it and

807
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:49,399
Speaker 1: we'll just have drinks and dinner. You can join us,

808
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:54,040
Speaker 1: and okay, you can cook from that. I'll look a

809
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 1: great meal. My promise. Everybody who comes. We love you.

810
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: I really do miss you. Guys, I'm so happy for you.

811
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna listen in, I'm gonna make sure everybody's listening

812
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:11,239
Speaker 1: and give you those five stars five stars and so

813
00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:13,279
Speaker 1: you're gonna do great and then and then we're gonna

814
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: try to get together. I hope I would love to

815
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: do that. So yeah, thank you you guys. Make it

816
00:47:18,360 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: happy girl, Thank you. I'm not fabulous. Stay safe. What

817
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,239
Speaker 1: she just did it? She did it? What is this?

818
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:32,560
Speaker 1: And inside now to jokes in the Jenny sees me.

819
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: This is how they see me, not how I see

820
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,399
Speaker 1: Come on, everybody, I mean I kind of see it.

821
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 1: Let's go, okay, Sorry, I just needed to sit with

822
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:50,880
Speaker 1: that for a little bit. All right, you guys, thank you,

823
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:58,120
Speaker 1: good luck, goodbye everybody. That was fun. Oh my gosh,

824
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:01,759
Speaker 1: oh I miss that. I the sh out of her.

825
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 1: Don't you feel like when you see when you see

826
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: each other, when we see each other, when you see

827
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: anybody from the old show, like you see them, and

828
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 1: you just your heart feels full again and you just

829
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 1: want more. I want more. I want to spend more

830
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 1: time with her, and it's not like a day is

831
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: pasted like that. That's a true sign of friendship when

832
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: you can not see someone for a while, not be together,

833
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: and then when you're together, you just can't stop talking

834
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,439
Speaker 1: and just I don't know, it's it's a show i'd

835
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,879
Speaker 1: watch as a fan. I was just sitting back and

836
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: like freaking out because that warm, fuzzy feeling is felt

837
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 1: by us fans too, Like it's not I mean, you

838
00:48:39,600 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: guys are love is real each other. But you can

839
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: feel the love, you feel the connection, you feel the

840
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,920
Speaker 1: sisterhood between you guys, and it's so cute good. I'm

841
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: glad you can feel it. Sis. Yeah, I felt like

842
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 1: I was part of you guys group. You were like

843
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 1: the younger sister. You were like me. When they had

844
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: the read through peering out through the stairs watching see

845
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,799
Speaker 1: Gavin meant she didn't have a good memory. So I'm

846
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 1: telling you right now she did not get that one right,

847
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 1: and I was saying she was wrong. Okay, we'll go

848
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,319
Speaker 1: back to your story then, tour. Okay, thank you,