Speaker 1: What is up? Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode
Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. A series win against the
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Pirates. I said we were gonna have to do it.
Speaker 1: I mentioned to sweep two of three. Not gonna get greedy,
Speaker 1: but the Mets are playing unbelievably good baseball, coming out
Speaker 1: of the trade deadline where they actively made their team
Speaker 1: worse by getting rid of Major League Baseball players. And
Speaker 1: here we are, we're playing good baseball. Looking forward to
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty seven Mets. That's gonna be a big
Speaker 1: theme of today's episode, talking about the future, cause the
Speaker 1: young guns are just absolutely dominating right now. Before we
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Speaker 1: We got an early ender. James, it's fantastic. We're recording
Speaker 1: at five forty one. I'm gonna be done with this
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Speaker 2: I know for us this is this is a miracle,
Speaker 2: and again this Mets team continues to play good baseball.
Speaker 2: It's do these six games out of the break. Let
Speaker 2: us side the the blowout on Saturday.
Speaker 3: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Neither here nor there, but it's fun to watch this
Speaker 2: team play. The lineup was rolling on Friday and Sunday.
Speaker 2: Great starting pitching on Friday and Sunday.
Speaker 4: I almost want to lead with Sean Manyax.
Speaker 2: I think he's especially if we're going to focus the
Speaker 2: conversation on what's going to happen twenty twenty seven, who's
Speaker 2: going to be here, who's not going to be here,
Speaker 2: what's the path to competitive? Being competitive baseball? Team A
Speaker 2: Shawn and I has a high three Zra or like
Speaker 2: he's had for the last three months now.
Speaker 4: A low three is a high two.
Speaker 2: Zra is a starting pitcher who's throwing ninety four miles
Speaker 2: per hour, who's striking out eleven bathers, a Mets season high.
Speaker 2: No Mets pitcher struck out more batters in the game
Speaker 2: this year than Sean and I did on Sunday. This
Speaker 2: is a wonderful development and one that I wish was
Speaker 2: happening as this team was trying to keep their head
Speaker 2: above water rather than just again looking towards the next season.
Speaker 1: Yes, but again building towards twenty twenty seven. We know
Speaker 1: that Scott McClain and Thornton are definitely going to be
Speaker 1: a part of this rotation right now, which is a
Speaker 1: hilarious sentences say out loud. And Mania is too, but
Speaker 1: he's kind of the guy that everyone's going under the
Speaker 1: radar with because it's always more exciting to talk about
Speaker 1: the great young arms that the Mets have right now
Speaker 1: in the rotation. But we're going on what almost two
Speaker 1: months now with Shawn and I being not just a
Speaker 1: Cape three pitcher, yeah, being a solid, solid pitcher. And
Speaker 1: for him, like you said, to have an era that
Speaker 1: could float in the low fours, high threes, you have
Speaker 1: that as your four or five starter. All of a sudden,
Speaker 1: this Mets team feels so much different. And what do
Speaker 1: you know, the Mets have been winning more baseball games
Speaker 1: when they get actual capable starting pitching on a day
Speaker 1: and day basis. I can't believe that some way, somehow,
Speaker 1: Sham and I is making more of an impact for
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six Mets than Freddy Peralta ever. Did
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not even a question. It does suck now
Speaker 2: when you look back that it took Sean and Ia
Speaker 2: six weeks to get himself totally back together, when there's
Speaker 2: all the nonsense about his ramp up coming.
Speaker 1: Through himself seat of spring training.
Speaker 2: Really frustrating how this all has gone down. But again,
Speaker 2: the fact that he's here I pack. Now. Do you
Speaker 2: want to hear some other pitchers in Major League Baseball
Speaker 2: who Shaan and I and even after all the nonsense
Speaker 2: early in the season, with at least one hundred innings pitched,
Speaker 2: who have a higher than Shamanaia's four point one to
Speaker 2: three er.
Speaker 1: Yes, give me, give me some names.
Speaker 2: Okay, Franbervaldez, Will Warren and Davis Martin who were world
Speaker 2: beaters for the first two months of the season. Trevor Rodgers,
Speaker 2: who people thought should have been considered the top twenty
Speaker 2: pitcher coming into the season. He's been really good for
Speaker 2: two months now. Nathan Yuvaldi, Kevin Gosman, Dustin May who
Speaker 2: just traded for two top hundred prospects, Brian Wu. People
Speaker 2: can say the top five pitcher in baseball coming here, guys,
Speaker 2: So let's still think it's all good there. But it's
Speaker 2: just it's kind of amazing, how really Freddy Pearl to
Speaker 2: David Peterson, two other ones, two old friends over there
Speaker 2: all the way with the back of the era leaderboard
Speaker 2: is just it's really nice to see and the most
Speaker 2: encouraging I think about Manaya, as Gary and Ron talked
Speaker 2: about today, as they have for his last few starts.
Speaker 2: This fastball is just on another level right now. Yeah,
Speaker 2: his confidence to beat hitters with it in the zone,
Speaker 2: his confidence to elevate that thing at the leathers, to
Speaker 2: throw the pitch sixty percent of the time. We're going
Speaker 2: on like four starts in a row now, to get
Speaker 2: that thing up to ninety five a few times, to
Speaker 2: sit ninety three harder than he's even sad any of
Speaker 2: the last few starts, and then bust the sweepers off
Speaker 2: that showing two different kinds of sweepers too.
Speaker 4: You saw today there was a faster one, a slower one.
Speaker 2: He broke off one that was like really for one
Speaker 2: of the strikeouts, and like the fifth or sixth ending,
Speaker 2: he's just he very comfortably looks like a mid rotation.
Speaker 4: Guys, we had to next year, which is all we
Speaker 4: ever could have asked.
Speaker 1: Yeah, again, like we are looking forward to twenty twenty
Speaker 1: seven because this season is over. I do see some
Speaker 1: Mets fans doing like the hopium right now of like,
Speaker 1: if we just play like the Red Sox did for
Speaker 1: the last month and a half, we could make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I'm like, think about what you just said. Could. It's
Speaker 1: still not even a guarantee. The season's over. They're not
Speaker 1: doing anything in twenty twenty six. But it is super
Speaker 1: encouraging to see because a lot of who is doing
Speaker 1: the good play are guys who are very much gonna
Speaker 1: be here in twenty twenty seven and are expected to
Speaker 1: be a part of the core past the twenty twenty
Speaker 1: seven season. Even even just.
Speaker 2: Give a sense of like what actually I hope you
Speaker 2: and Mets have to do they get in for the
Speaker 2: Mets to end the season, five hundred will not happen,
Speaker 2: no chance whatsoever. They have to go thirty and fifteen,
Speaker 2: which they have to play. They have to play six
Speaker 2: six sixty seven ball. The rest this season of course
Speaker 2: not going to happen. And the other part of this
Speaker 2: conversation is kind of funny, is there are a lot
Speaker 2: of Mets fans and this isn't even like logically speaking,
Speaker 2: that I won't like Chastis someone for this, but that
Speaker 2: are really upset that the Mets are blowing their tank
Speaker 2: because the Mets have so much more to gain than
Speaker 2: every single other and at least not every most other
Speaker 2: baseball teams. Just by finishing the season with a bottom
Speaker 2: six or even a bottom four record, because of our
Speaker 2: draft pick doesn't fall within the top six, it gets
Speaker 2: pushed back ten.
Speaker 4: Spots, as it has every other year.
Speaker 2: Really really negatively impacted our draft pool and our MLB
Speaker 2: draft strategy.
Speaker 4: And for odds wise.
Speaker 2: You have an eighty eight percent chance if to get
Speaker 2: a top six pick if you have one of the
Speaker 2: three worst records, eighty two if you have one of
Speaker 2: the four worst records, then sixty three. One of the
Speaker 2: five worst, which is where the Mets are right now,
Speaker 2: then six tors fifty one, seven thirty nine, eight twenty nine.
Speaker 2: It's very flat odds, not like the NBA where they
Speaker 2: right now, it is like the new NBA.
Speaker 4: Actually yeah, it is where they're a new NBA where
Speaker 4: they're reflattening the odds.
Speaker 2: But there's it would have been really beneficial for the
Speaker 2: Mets draft next year to have a bottom three record.
Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like that's going to happen anymore.
Speaker 1: No, especially because like you look at the A's, you
Speaker 1: look at the Angels, you look at the Rockies, even
Speaker 1: the Giants, those teams are just yeah, the Royals, those
Speaker 1: what I name four or five teams right there, theres
Speaker 1: are better than us. Still, I don't think that's even true.
Speaker 1: What are you talking The Giants have less than fifty wins?
Speaker 1: What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: Giants are Oh wait this this Tecathon is very very
Speaker 2: far behind.
Speaker 3: Then.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, what are you saying the Giants?
Speaker 1: The Giants are done?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're correct on that that we do not have
Speaker 2: the fifth worst record in the league.
Speaker 1: Still, No, we definitely don't. And the Mets are gonna
Speaker 1: get cold again. This team is still not good. I
Speaker 1: want that to be very very clear. But again, the
Speaker 1: players that are making the impacts right now. I love
Speaker 1: that we can look for guys, even like when we're
Speaker 1: talking about the chaos bullpen right now, I love that
Speaker 1: we're finding dudes that feel like not just gonna stick
Speaker 1: around this year, but like will be part of this
Speaker 1: bullpen next year too. Yeah, definitely, And I do wonder
Speaker 1: everyone wants to hear about Joan. I can't believe you've
Speaker 1: got seven minutes say without talking about Jeffrey. I can
Speaker 1: great moment on Friday Night one coming into a game
Speaker 1: in big time trouble. For some reason, it was the
Speaker 1: ghost of Carls. Mendoza returns to the Mets, stuck out
Speaker 1: and after.
Speaker 2: Daniel Nunis got through with clean six sitting, it'll be like, nice,
Speaker 2: get Danielle out here, head held high. Now comes back
Speaker 2: out for the seventh, doesn't get a single out. Jeffrey
Speaker 2: Yon enters the game as a left handed pitcher, making
Speaker 2: his second major league appearance with I think three ridies
Speaker 2: do up the bases, loaded, nobody out, and he kept
Speaker 2: it to one run on a sack fly. Really good
Speaker 2: work Byon and the biggest play of which the one
Speaker 2: that closed the inning a ball in the dirt because
Speaker 2: he was throwing some dirt balls. That's right, Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and Terrence was really doing well to block a lot
Speaker 2: of those. It got like seven feet away, ten feet away,
Speaker 2: Terrentz slid down Yon like a lightning ballt covers home
Speaker 2: plate the second the ball was in the dirt and
Speaker 2: it makes a tag.
Speaker 4: Was Alon Reynolds?
Speaker 1: Was it Triolo might been Triolo. Honestly, I think might
Speaker 1: have been Triolo Triolos. They mentioned something, you know, realized
Speaker 1: Triolo and Baty same high school, did not know that.
Speaker 1: I think Trio might be a bit older. But that's
Speaker 1: both both Lake Travis guys. But Jared Triolo also a
Speaker 1: generational Mets killer.
Speaker 4: Like they were in high school, same time, two year difference.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's pretty good man. They were the same
Speaker 1: baseball team, pretty talented. But like we always joke about
Speaker 1: how like Jared Triollo was, like he was so pesky,
Speaker 1: and then like last year he kind of became my
Speaker 1: guy a little bit, like I started buying into it.
Speaker 1: And he's not played well this year, but he still
Speaker 1: shows up every single time against the Mets.
Speaker 4: And he's still good defense. Yeah, he loves playing this
Speaker 4: Mets team.
Speaker 2: But again, y'all on to enter a game like that
Speaker 2: in a situation where it was not not a good
Speaker 2: situation at all, but to get himself out of it
Speaker 2: in that situation and to make the big play and
Speaker 2: then to keep showing his emotion after it, like it's
Speaker 2: I don't know, I truthfully don't know if he's going
Speaker 2: to be in this bullpen next year. But yes, he
Speaker 2: has six years of team controlling three options, so I'm
Speaker 2: assuming he'll still be in the organization no matter. Watch,
Speaker 2: we're gonna have a lot more jeffani in the future.
Speaker 2: But he's I really like watching.
Speaker 1: The pitch and company. Yeah, how many left handed pitchers
Speaker 1: throw one hundred and one miles an hour?
Speaker 4: Why didn't he have a job yet then? Guy?
Speaker 1: Because because major League Baseball is being the old man
Speaker 1: crankiness of the celebrations, the antics. When you shove one
Speaker 1: on one, I think every team in baseball probably when
Speaker 1: they saw that, even though they had this data, probably
Speaker 1: went shit one oh one with options, he'll never play
Speaker 1: for another team. The Mets never have to get rid
Speaker 1: of him.
Speaker 4: I think it's also the fact that he does not
Speaker 4: know where the ball's going.
Speaker 2: Hundred and one is great, but it's when he was
Speaker 2: throwing those dirtballs and he threw three of them in
Speaker 2: a row, all right.
Speaker 1: That's just him being juice up. There were curve balls.
Speaker 1: He was trying to make him nasty. He had the
Speaker 1: adrenaline going. He's got to get that a little more
Speaker 1: under control. But I actually I don't think the control
Speaker 1: has been as bad as it's being let on.
Speaker 4: I think it's been really bad.
Speaker 1: No stop. I think he's missing spots by feet. But again,
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. He's getting Chatman treatment. Just throw it
Speaker 1: down the middle.
Speaker 2: He's getting a lot of ground balls too. I also
Speaker 2: like that Mets social media's leaning into the Yon stuff.
Speaker 2: I think I think he either saw you like it
Speaker 2: you sent me inster Graham Rail because we're both unks
Speaker 2: of mister match is doing things and just yawning afterwards,
Speaker 2: Oh and trash. Yeah, like this is something that as
Speaker 2: we're doing right now. It's not a lot of excitement
Speaker 2: going on with this Mets team right now, which is
Speaker 2: funny because they're actually paying well winning baseball games. But
Speaker 2: he's he's kind of worth the price of admission.
Speaker 1: No, I can't wait to get into city Field and
Speaker 1: watch that guy pitch for the Mets, because I mean
Speaker 1: I bought a Jeffrey on Jersey. Once I saw that
Speaker 1: he had the options and the years of control, I
Speaker 1: was like, David CERTs is never letting this guy go.
Speaker 1: He will be on this Mets roster, forty man roster,
Speaker 1: as long as David Sterns still has this job. So
Speaker 1: if you hate Jeffrey on. That means you're rooting again
Speaker 1: the Mets, which means we'll actually rooting against David Stearns,
Speaker 1: which then means you're rooting against the Mets success. So
Speaker 1: just keep that in mind if you want, if you
Speaker 1: want Jeffrey on Gohan, it's actually because you don't want
Speaker 1: the Mets to win any games.
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Speaker 2: Here's a good stat from sny Mets get back to
Speaker 2: Manaia Shaman. I have thrown thirteen pitch at least ninety
Speaker 2: four miles per hour since joining the rotation in mid June.
Speaker 2: All thirteen have come in the.
Speaker 4: Last two starts.
Speaker 1: Hell, yeah, let's go Shaan Mania.
Speaker 2: If n I did this a month earlier, do you
Speaker 2: think I think that with trade the one hundred, I
Speaker 2: think if Sean and Iyah pitched like he has the
Speaker 2: last two starts or I guess last three because in
Speaker 2: between one of them he kind of gave.
Speaker 1: Up some runs.
Speaker 4: But I still look nice.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he still look nice. I how could you not
Speaker 1: be going after him. It's like, if you get this
Speaker 1: version of him, that price really isn't insane at all.
Speaker 2: No next year him being twenty mil fine, great, yeah,
Speaker 2: and it seems will be like cool, done something. We're
Speaker 2: really just going to be happy not to have to
Speaker 2: think about other things that we want to pull as
Speaker 2: we get to the next year's version of the Mets.
Speaker 2: Zach Thorton's going to be a big hot button issue
Speaker 2: as we get down the stretch this year, because.
Speaker 4: This was another start where I thought he was good.
Speaker 2: And the way that he fought through that rain delay,
Speaker 2: calling raindelay like right in the middle of an inning
Speaker 2: was like, I think, in the middle of an a
Speaker 2: bad technically too, was annoying. And on the other side
Speaker 2: of this game, carbon Leginski did not handle it well.
Speaker 4: Maginsky Maginsky.
Speaker 1: Damn, Yeah, there's no donn't the l's useless. I'm ignoring
Speaker 1: the L silon L Maginsky. Car He's also someone that
Speaker 1: he hadn't actually started the game in about three months.
Speaker 1: He made a big stink about when he got pushed
Speaker 1: to the bullpen for Jared Jones, who we also live
Speaker 1: up on Sunday, which is kind of funny here he's
Speaker 1: got an affinity for lighting up the really really talented
Speaker 1: Pirates pitchers.
Speaker 4: Not pupa Chandler Well.
Speaker 2: Crushed him wet and Jones Yeah, but then he seemed
Speaker 2: to this Rangelay didn't rely hit him well when he
Speaker 2: came back out for that third inning. Marcus sent me
Speaker 2: hitting missiles off here definitely definitely didn't handle the rain
Speaker 2: delay well, but we got all over him, and Thorton
Speaker 2: got through that rain delay well.
Speaker 4: The reason he only went five innings with.
Speaker 2: Sixty pitches because it just felt like they were trying
Speaker 2: to be careful with him. But that color, when he's
Speaker 2: just using that color and he's barren down the righties
Speaker 2: like that. The rest of this stuff I still think
Speaker 2: needs work. I thought it was one of the better
Speaker 2: sliders we've seen him so far. I also still want
Speaker 2: to see more for seemers. I need to see more changeups.
Speaker 2: A few he threw we're just so they were feet
Speaker 2: off the plate. But it's good, and I do I
Speaker 2: do caution about like what you just said, like breading
Speaker 2: him in pen for next year's rotation. I don't even
Speaker 2: think the Mets will go into next season doing that,
Speaker 2: But I do think he's going to be You go
Speaker 2: into next season where he's the first alternate.
Speaker 1: I think you go into next season if he's the five.
Speaker 1: That's okay. I really do the fact that he just
Speaker 1: doesn't walk anybody alone is very much worth a major
Speaker 1: league rotation spot. And again, I think there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the Mets World and Mets
Speaker 1: fans that are gonna think that Zach Thornton is on
Speaker 1: the same level as Christian Scott and Olan McLain because
Speaker 1: he's a young pitcher and the era is very low
Speaker 1: right now. And this is not to talk down about
Speaker 1: Zach Thornton. Don't put the h there is the ac
Speaker 1: it's more so like we're hoping that he's just Johnnie
Speaker 1: David Peterson of the last couple of years. Yeah, Johnnie
Speaker 1: dogg because John Nice was a dog. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. David Peterson in terms of your the five
Speaker 1: every single year, and you're gonna give us some spurts
Speaker 1: where you are pitching at a really high level because like,
Speaker 1: that's truthfully what he is. That's what he's probably going
Speaker 1: to be expected to be. Don't put like any sort
Speaker 1: of frontline starter shine on him just yet. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of development still in his game. But I do
Speaker 1: love that he's getting these reps right now. This is
Speaker 1: a great time for him to learn these things, figure
Speaker 1: it out. There's no pressure. This is your spot for
Speaker 1: the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: Young Blood definitely another big development from this year. If
Speaker 2: you guys didn't we did our top ten Prospects on Saturday.
Speaker 2: A big thing is that he's jumped basically all the
Speaker 2: pitchers that are in the upper miners on that list,
Speaker 2: Like he jumped Jonah Toll this year, he jumped Jack
Speaker 2: Wenninger this year. Even still John at Santucci just got
Speaker 2: started that TRIPLEA. Will Watson just started making rehab starts
Speaker 2: back like he is. He's become the guy of the
Speaker 2: young controllable pitchers besides Scott and Nolan. McClain is going
Speaker 2: to continue to get chances. Again, he's above all of
Speaker 2: these guys. For me, just thinking about twenty twenty seven,
Speaker 2: I am curious how they how they view him going
Speaker 2: into a full regular season rotation.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right now, right now, the guaranteed guys it is McLain, Scott, Imaniyah.
Speaker 1: I think Thornton will be there just because again with
Speaker 1: the amount of money that the Mets are gonna spend
Speaker 1: and need to spend next season, like and the free
Speaker 1: agent market besides Terrek School, I think is quite weak
Speaker 1: in terms of starting pitchers that the Mets will actually
Speaker 1: be able to get. I would love for them to
Speaker 1: get better. I would love better than Zach Thornton and
Speaker 1: that's not because he's bad. I would just want this
Speaker 1: rotation to be as good as it can. But this
Speaker 1: is something that we've talked about to off air with
Speaker 1: a bunch of different people. Every major league team is
Speaker 1: going to have spots of weakness. It is pretty much
Speaker 1: impossible to build a team that doesn't have that. Especially
Speaker 1: over the one sixty two guys are gonna get hurt.
Speaker 1: Depth is gonna be called into question. You're trying to
Speaker 1: build the best team possible. But a guy like Zach
Speaker 1: Thornton is such a good floor razer for this Mets
Speaker 1: team rather than a ceiling guy. Yeah, again, you need
Speaker 1: a full team and Zach. You can't take away from
Speaker 1: Zach Thornton and his first four the innings guy's got
Speaker 1: two five vra fantastic. He's been so effective just with
Speaker 1: that color specifically. And that doesn't mean there's no development
Speaker 1: left on Zach Thorton, of course not. He's he's thinking
Speaker 1: about how much he's developed already.
Speaker 2: Right and think about how again, I'm not saying again
Speaker 2: how easy it would be developed, But like when these
Speaker 2: other pitches do come together, at some point when you
Speaker 2: can better locate that fastball still has an adequate shape
Speaker 2: on it if a changeup ever comes and he winds
Speaker 2: up getting all of these weapons to get these righties out,
Speaker 2: like there is a worldhere. Zach Thornton can assent to
Speaker 2: being a three yes going in text seasons we think
Speaker 2: is a five sex but his story is not read
Speaker 2: and he's twenty four years old, and we're really really
Speaker 2: thrilled about in terms.
Speaker 4: Of good things that have happened.
Speaker 2: That's the theme this episode of the last few months
Speaker 2: that we can take us twenty twenty seven. Zach Thornon's
Speaker 2: a big, flashing, beautiful, great, amazing thing.
Speaker 1: And Daniel Duarte, this is a Daniel Duarte podcast. The
Speaker 1: guy keeps shoving he's so good. And again we talked
Speaker 1: about like the indie ball wins that the Mets have
Speaker 1: weirdly had with guys like from these weird leagues like
Speaker 1: Duarte again Mexican League. He had been in professional baseball
Speaker 1: before an affiliated ball and I think he's even made
Speaker 1: major league appearances before the Mets. But like Dwarte, came
Speaker 1: from the Mexican League. The Weisenberger guy. He was playing
Speaker 1: for the Geimer Weisenheimer as Gary was calling him. He
Speaker 1: was playing for like the Hagars Town, whatever they're called
Speaker 1: in the Independent League. We've talked about Pintaro like there's
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys, even finding Jared Young, who's turned
Speaker 1: into a really really nice piece. And if it wasn't
Speaker 1: for Pete Alonso having a massive date that I was
Speaker 1: really excited to start the countdown of how close their
Speaker 1: ops was. It was gonna be within like fifteen, which
Speaker 1: kind of layers. But Jared Young as a only play
Speaker 1: against right handed pitching, play first base, He's turned into
Speaker 1: a really really good player for this team.
Speaker 2: I also really like how glowingly the Booth has talked
Speaker 2: about Jared Young over the last few weeks. Specifically they
Speaker 2: did it. I remember Keith doing it this week in
Speaker 2: Cleveland and garyon Ronerd both doing it now on Sunday
Speaker 2: in Pittsburgh where they did paint it like it's it's
Speaker 2: a shame in this season a guy like Jared Young
Speaker 2: kind of going into a guy a little escapegoat that
Speaker 2: is being.
Speaker 4: And again it wasn't even him. He was like the
Speaker 4: third string Pilanzo replacement.
Speaker 2: He thought about it, but and he's case sadly by
Speaker 2: some Mets fans will still be compared to Pilonza because
Speaker 2: he's not Pilonzo. He's playing Plans's position, but he's He's
Speaker 2: such a resounding win for this season and someone you
Speaker 2: can go into next season again. I'm not banking on
Speaker 2: Jared Young to hit fourth no and play every single day,
Speaker 2: but for Jared Young to hit sixth or seventh against
Speaker 2: right handed pitchers and then to figure out what you're
Speaker 2: going to do there against lefties, or he just becomes
Speaker 2: a right handed guy off the bench if you aren't
Speaker 2: able to pull in a big first base that could
Speaker 2: play every single day like him with team control. Somebody
Speaker 2: just said with Tawarte, like these are looking for silver linings,
Speaker 2: wins and what's been a catastrophic, miserable season. Jared Young
Speaker 2: is such an unbelievably massive one, someone that looks like
Speaker 2: they're going to be fifteen to twenty percent better than
Speaker 2: the garbage at the plate against righty's for a few
Speaker 2: years to come.
Speaker 1: Now and then, of course we have viewing and bench.
Speaker 1: We know those guys aren't going anywhere. They had also
Speaker 1: great weekends. Ewing was making some really nice plays in
Speaker 1: center field, plays that looked really easy that I don't
Speaker 1: think many center fielders actually end up getting to love
Speaker 1: watching him play the outfield. Carson Bench. That catch where
Speaker 1: he heard his wrist was unbelievable. That was a fantastic
Speaker 1: catch with the way that the wall juts out and
Speaker 1: crashing into the wall. He continues to just keep getting
Speaker 1: hits all the time. I love that I'm seeing him now.
Speaker 1: It feels like and maybe you can get some stats
Speaker 1: on this, maybe for the next episode. I feel like
Speaker 1: we're starting to see A and B swing even more
Speaker 1: from Carson Bench.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: There was a three to one pitch today. I don't
Speaker 1: remember if from Jared Jones maybe early on the game
Speaker 1: or Dovall that he he took a daddy hack, a
Speaker 1: daddy hack, and I'm like, I love to see that,
Speaker 1: Like that's the spot where you should be going for
Speaker 1: the defenses there.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if it's a little bit messed
Speaker 2: with how Carson Bench had a little bit of different
Speaker 2: swing to start the season. But if you do look
Speaker 2: on his battracking page on Baseball savon so we'll show
Speaker 2: you is a distribution graph, and usually the way to
Speaker 2: see if there's a B swings that a player has
Speaker 2: inside of their arsenal is if you see like humps
Speaker 2: in different parts of the graph, or like a long
Speaker 2: line at the top and bench does have things that
Speaker 2: I'll try to split out this data for the next episode.
Speaker 2: It does look like he has a few different swings
Speaker 2: that he's ready to do, and it seems like that
Speaker 2: might be one of the new pillars of Mets player
Speaker 2: development because we saw that as a big thing with
Speaker 2: aj Ewing coming to the major leagues. I feel like
Speaker 2: they're gonna try and do that with our guy, Emilian Petre.
Speaker 2: Probably feel like Sammy Steffer is another one who like
Speaker 2: an A and B swing. He already has the A one,
Speaker 2: so maybe it's about finding the B one or maybe
Speaker 2: it's just going Daddy hacks all the time. It does
Speaker 2: feel like this is the philosophy that the Mets internal
Speaker 2: hitting development is working with and these players are taking
Speaker 2: to and is helping them be productive Weekend.
Speaker 1: Also for the underwhelming guys this year too, Bobachett, I've
Speaker 1: come to the conclusion that he is the most inconsistent
Speaker 1: baseball player I've ever watched, and I'm pretty confident that
Speaker 1: he's been like a near three hundred hitter in his
Speaker 1: career because he will have moments where he goes over fifteen,
Speaker 1: and then he'll have moments where he is thirteen for fifteen.
Speaker 1: He doesn't really do the whole like get a hit
Speaker 1: every game kind of thing. He's not a hitch streak
Speaker 1: guy in my opinion, because this weekend he had some
Speaker 1: crazy games. Of course, but then the five for five
Speaker 1: to end it, I'm like, oh yeah, that will boost
Speaker 1: your batting average, no matter what part of the season is,
Speaker 1: like twenty points.
Speaker 2: It boosted up eight points in one game when he's
Speaker 2: already played one hundred and seventeen baseball.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 2: And he got guys on base percentage over three hundred mark.
Speaker 2: That's we're looking at here for that's.
Speaker 1: Twenty twenty seven. Bo's gonna be here.
Speaker 4: I actually don't think so all.
Speaker 1: That'd be so amazing.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, please, I think I mean, he gave
Speaker 2: I don't remember who wrote the article, but he was
Speaker 2: giving an interview about you know those guys. You know,
Speaker 2: he's more saying done than us in terms of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty seventeen. I think this is a great chance, a
Speaker 2: very very very high chance out. But then, please, I
Speaker 2: would I would take ball opting back in at this
Speaker 2: point if I have to be honest.
Speaker 4: I think next not.
Speaker 1: Fifty million dollars or whatever his contract's gonna be. I
Speaker 1: know it's not our money, but I realize it was
Speaker 1: your money. Yeah, we can definitely spend that. I want
Speaker 1: that fifty million spent anywhere else.
Speaker 4: So then you go into next season and we'll talk
Speaker 4: about the other guy.
Speaker 2: Now, the one guy who didn't get it on the
Speaker 2: hip parade on Sunday is Brett Baity third basement?
Speaker 1: Then the fuck No, not Brett, He's he's our bench guy.
Speaker 4: Well, then who's the third basement?
Speaker 1: You don't want to should know. I'm gonna find you somebody.
Speaker 1: Hold on, let me look at let me look at
Speaker 1: who the free agents are.
Speaker 2: I said, you're gonna You're gonna be sorely. I think
Speaker 2: it's the whole reason why Bobache is going to opt out,
Speaker 2: because how bad that list is.
Speaker 4: You're about to pull up.
Speaker 1: Good good, But Paige, you know who's gonna be it?
Speaker 1: Jefferson Rojas.
Speaker 4: Yeah he might be.
Speaker 2: He actually might be the third basement season next year. Else,
Speaker 2: do you want to give Brett some credit?
Speaker 4: Again?
Speaker 2: I can't believe that every single person got a hit
Speaker 2: on Sunday except for him, but he made a big
Speaker 2: throw in one of the bad things that happened for
Speaker 2: someone who will be hearing twenty twenty seven on Friday night,
Speaker 2: really bailed out Devin Williams with a wonderful outfield assist
Speaker 2: and that was on that Jacob Gonzalez on a pinch
Speaker 2: at Dult like have been pitching double off the wall,
Speaker 2: gunned down to drive her front at second base.
Speaker 4: Bristol has that arm.
Speaker 2: He has looked better in the few starts he's gotten
Speaker 2: over the last few weeks in the outfield. I think
Speaker 2: that's something that are desperately going to continue to try
Speaker 2: to in the rest.
Speaker 4: Of the season, is get Brett Baby better in the outfield.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean they're gonna desperately try to get him
Speaker 1: better at anything possible. They're trying to extract it. Think
Speaker 1: it would be nice, but we can't yeah any sort
Speaker 1: of value out of him so that they can keep
Speaker 1: him on this team because next year is a big
Speaker 1: decision whether or not that you tender Brett Batty I think, I.
Speaker 2: Think, But that's also the difference between I think of
Speaker 2: Brett Baby and Mark Viento. So having this conversation in
Speaker 2: circles for four years. Yeah, and now we're at the
Speaker 2: point where all the people are like dollg just so
Speaker 2: when we're gonna non tender one of these.
Speaker 1: Guys, it's gonna be Mark Viento's I promise you, yeah.
Speaker 4: Probably see.
Speaker 2: He will have another chance when he comes back, though,
Speaker 2: But that's that's kind of something else to pull. I
Speaker 2: guess in a negative way that he's It's just hard.
Speaker 2: It's going to be really difficult to find his role
Speaker 2: on the team. But I still think he will maintain it.
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Speaker 1: Shot Marcus Simeon again. I proclaimed him dead, and he
Speaker 1: has been playing really good baseball since I've said that.
Speaker 1: He goes on some streaks as well. The one thing
Speaker 1: I do want to bring up here, maybe put a
Speaker 1: bow on this whole Pittsburgh Pirates series before we go
Speaker 1: into our series preview for the Braves. The Mets are
Speaker 1: what one game under five hundred since Andy Green took over.
Speaker 2: Two I think two or three games on their fel
Speaker 2: okay eighteen and twenty.
Speaker 1: I believe it does make me very frustrated. It just
Speaker 1: stick with me, everybody, stick with me. It's gonna be
Speaker 1: a really convoluted way to get here. It makes me
Speaker 1: so frustrated, more so that the Mets held on to
Speaker 1: Mendoza for as long as they did. I think it
Speaker 1: is very very clear that whatever was going on with
Speaker 1: the Mets, there's a lot of fault to blame with
Speaker 1: Carlos Mendoza. This team has actively gotten worse since Carlos
Speaker 1: Mendoza has left, and they're playing better baseball. And this
Speaker 1: team was so bad with Carlos Mendoza, so so bad
Speaker 1: that even the Mets playing two or three games under
Speaker 1: five hundred baseball feels like they're playing some of the
Speaker 1: best baseball in Major League Baseball, which is an insane
Speaker 1: sentence to say. And I guess like technically these last
Speaker 1: six games they have been playing some of the best
Speaker 1: baseball in the league. But the fact that it was
Speaker 1: so bad under him, and it feels like, again the
Speaker 1: guys are really loose. It feels like everybody's like playing baseball.
Speaker 1: They still are not a very good team in the
Speaker 1: in the current standpoint, but that's how bad it was
Speaker 1: when Mendy was here that we think that this version
Speaker 1: of the Mets, like to the average person, like there's
Speaker 1: playing good baseball right here.
Speaker 2: And there is some degree to it where it's like
Speaker 2: it's not like it was necessarily his fault, but like
Speaker 2: we were kind of clamming for at a time when
Speaker 2: there was still a teeny tiny bit of a murmur
Speaker 2: of a heart beyond the season. Yeah, it was just
Speaker 2: that is the button that team's press, and we have.
Speaker 1: Seen it's worked for everybody.
Speaker 2: The two other teams who fired ahead of time rather
Speaker 2: than late having I mean, we'll see what happens with
Speaker 2: the Phillies next few months here, but the Boston Red
Speaker 2: Sox are whatever, if there's a word for more than
Speaker 2: inspired baseball, so that the Red Sox have done.
Speaker 1: I mean you had them ranked as your number two
Speaker 1: team in the league on your power regu They're the
Speaker 1: best team in the American League.
Speaker 2: I mean the devil magic right now, like they're the
Speaker 2: Mets two years ago, the Bluejays last, the Red Sox right.
Speaker 1: Now, and they're even better than both of those.
Speaker 2: And you still look at their line of every single
Speaker 2: lame like this, guys suck, but it just doesn't matter.
Speaker 4: They win baseball games.
Speaker 2: I also think there is something about and bo how
Speaker 2: comments about this after the game.
Speaker 4: I want to find it. He said, we have a
Speaker 4: lot of baseball in front of us. Not necessarily true.
Speaker 2: It's in everybody's best interest and desire to play hard,
Speaker 2: win games, find the best versions of themselves, and finish strong.
Speaker 2: And I do know we talked about a bit at
Speaker 2: the top that there has been this section of the
Speaker 2: Mets fan base, and I.
Speaker 4: Don't think you guys are wrong logically that.
Speaker 2: They're upset that this teams winning games because are hurting
Speaker 2: their tank and will almost undoubtedly ruin their draft pick
Speaker 2: for next season. Yes, when it seems like we're going
Speaker 2: to get a gift, possibly get a top three pick,
Speaker 2: get a new blue chip prospect and the system and
Speaker 2: probably be much better off for two years from now.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, I can never be really,
Speaker 2: like in my heart of hearts, mad about the Mets
Speaker 2: playing good baseball.
Speaker 1: This is no never never. I'm never gonna root against
Speaker 1: this team. We're gonna go to games still the rest
Speaker 1: of the year, and I'm going to be very much
Speaker 1: celebrating every time the Mets do something well.
Speaker 4: Shout Andrew. I'm at a party this weekend.
Speaker 2: He's in favor of the retistery chicken idea that was
Speaker 2: definitely the leader in the clubhouse right now for them
Speaker 2: that weren't meat up.
Speaker 1: I think we are due in August to do a
Speaker 1: little row Tissary chicken night.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like this Mets season, I
Speaker 2: think was a real return to like some of these
Speaker 2: Mets seasons that we dealt with as kids and teenagers.
Speaker 2: I think about two thousand and five. I think about
Speaker 2: like twenty thirteen and fourteen, oh mark years, but those
Speaker 2: are even leaner than I think these years were. Like
Speaker 2: two thousand and one was like the first one was like,
Speaker 2: oh no, I mean mix years old?
Speaker 3: Was it?
Speaker 1: Seventeen? Was Collins last year? That that was tough?
Speaker 2: But that was just bad the whole way through. It
Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't there were not this many interesting young players.
Speaker 1: Oh Okay, I understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: There's actual in my mind, and I don't think I
Speaker 4: think a lot.
Speaker 2: I think a lot of Mets fans are upset about
Speaker 2: the non tang game because they don't believe them about
Speaker 2: to say, but this team is monster building blocks.
Speaker 1: But I think so, like you, we talked about this outfield,
Speaker 1: the outfield set for six years, Mets do not have
Speaker 1: to think about anybody coming in to play the outfield
Speaker 1: for the next half a decade.
Speaker 2: And we very confidently have a starting pitcher who is
Speaker 2: going to be on the one two line, and another starting
Speaker 2: pitcher is probably a firm three with the ability to
Speaker 2: do more. And those guys are also going to be
Speaker 2: here five more years each. And that's those are four
Speaker 2: six spots in play, and then also under contract, we'll
Speaker 2: still have next year one of the five or so
Speaker 2: six speci shortstops in baseball, even as he continues to
Speaker 2: regress a top four the line up.
Speaker 1: Hither we have a catcher that's locked in. I know
Speaker 1: he plays dogshit defense behind there, but in terms about
Speaker 1: the plate, as long as we hit him nineties, an
Speaker 1: elite power hitting.
Speaker 2: Catcher and once so though so again at the same
Speaker 2: time people say the culture stuff's bullshit. Playing winning baseball's bullshit.
Speaker 2: Just get the pick and get out of the season.
Speaker 2: It would be I think more disastrous for the next
Speaker 2: few years of the Mets, which still might not be good.
Speaker 2: I won't tell you, won't lie to you and tell
Speaker 2: you they're I guarantee they're gonna be great. But there's
Speaker 2: just something about a team playing good baseball and like
Speaker 2: enjoying themselves. Scott and and McLain talked about in separate
Speaker 2: interviews how they really needed some energy and that God
Speaker 2: brought it to the club. Again, to your comment about
Speaker 2: Mendoza War, it's like something was lacking and the other thing,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna football's a little bit on the mind right
Speaker 2: now we're getting into August. Something like this happened three
Speaker 2: years ago, the last game of the season. It was
Speaker 2: I believe the Lions against the Texans and the vas
Speaker 2: some bullshit like that. But the Lions were locked in
Speaker 2: to get a number on overall pick. They wanted a
Speaker 2: number one overall picks. They were tanking hard. But over
Speaker 2: the last like seven weeks that season, they started playing
Speaker 2: good football for the first time in like almost the
Speaker 2: entire history of that franchise. And people were talking, Yeah,
Speaker 2: tw people were talking Dan Campbell and players about tanking.
Speaker 2: He's like, fuck this, Like it's just like, this is football.
Speaker 2: You guys are playing for their jobs, they're playing for
Speaker 2: their lives. You can't tell professional athletes to lose on purpose.
Speaker 2: And again, which you can do is trade your entire
Speaker 2: bullpen and hope that makes you lose games on accident,
Speaker 2: but he'd neither here nor there, and the Lions wound
Speaker 2: up winning their final game this season, getting the second pick.
Speaker 2: People were up in arms about it, but.
Speaker 1: They got lucky.
Speaker 2: The team that was drafting first, the Jacksonville Jaguars, they
Speaker 2: made the worst pick. They took Trayvon Walker, who's now
Speaker 2: become a very good player. But the Lions got their guy,
Speaker 2: Aiden Hudgerson at two. They built the culture and they've
Speaker 2: become one of the more fears in the bad season
Speaker 2: last year, but they've now become like a real franchise,
Speaker 2: real organization, real real ball club.
Speaker 4: That's kind of the hope for this Met's team.
Speaker 2: We keep talking about how there's not been in consistency,
Speaker 2: They've not been able to get over the hump team bare.
Speaker 2: They fucking had two straight playoff season history of the franchise,
Speaker 2: at least not too that I'll count. So you still
Speaker 2: need to build something sustainable. It's been the whole fucking
Speaker 2: point this year disaster. It doesn't feel like we're closer
Speaker 2: to that, But I just I can never be upset
Speaker 2: about watching this team enjoy playing baseball and playing it.
Speaker 1: Well, No, there's there definitely is if a culture aspect,
Speaker 1: people like to only bring up the culture when it
Speaker 1: fits their narrative. That's a very fun thing that Mets
Speaker 1: fans like to do, Like the culture of Francisco lindor
Speaker 1: being in the clubhouse fits their narrative. They can run
Speaker 1: with that. But then as soon as the Mets start
Speaker 1: playing too good of baseball in a season where the
Speaker 1: culture was a problem and the culture seems to be
Speaker 1: getting better crickets, nobody cares about that anymore.
Speaker 2: And even the last thing to talk about before we
Speaker 2: go to the Brave series, Jeff Passon has done so
Speaker 2: much media in the last ten days.
Speaker 1: A shocking amount of ESPN throwing them out there.
Speaker 4: I can be credit for doing it well. Passing is
Speaker 4: great on the camera. His podcast he's done this year
Speaker 4: has been great. Trying to Richard Staff for being a
Speaker 4: rather on it.
Speaker 2: But he did a show with Matt Barnes all the
Speaker 2: smoke baseball we didn't know existed, but he gave. They
Speaker 2: asked very specifically about the Wanso, the Francisco Lidoor feud.
Speaker 2: The fact has permeated regular culture so.
Speaker 1: Much that asking Matt Barnes Matt Barnes like what's coming
Speaker 1: on to the Francisco Lindor and thought Passing handled it really, really,
Speaker 1: really well, very diplomatically, where he was like, you know,
Speaker 1: the team and the players have all said they've never
Speaker 1: they've never forgot the words to use specifically, like they've
Speaker 1: never really admitted that there was a beef, but they
Speaker 1: all said they squashed it, so you could take that
Speaker 1: however you guys want to take that. But thought it
Speaker 1: was He then went on a die try about how
Speaker 1: it's fine, they just have to they don't have to
Speaker 1: be best friends, they don't have to be friends at all.
Speaker 1: You just have to disbeg clubhouses that have one World.
Speaker 2: Series that haven't been like super tight homies like that there, Jeter,
Speaker 2: you just gotta play ball together and you have to
Speaker 2: be cool, and they seem cool right now. And again,
Speaker 2: it's just funny this stuff keeps coming up.
Speaker 4: I liked. I really liked how Jeff Passon answered that question.
Speaker 1: No, I appreciate that because it really is, again so
Speaker 1: easy for the national media to just absolutely lay it
Speaker 1: on the Mets every single chance that they get, and
Speaker 1: they really don't. And that was a good time for
Speaker 1: Passing to honestly stir the pod even more. But good reporting,
Speaker 1: that's what journalism is supposed to be, not this fucking
Speaker 1: speculation nonsense. Instead tell you what's actually going on. And
Speaker 1: that's that's why Passing's in the circle of trust. We
Speaker 1: haven't talked about the circle of trust in a while.
Speaker 1: Passon's the leader of it.
Speaker 2: Circle trusts been going up and down a lot. We
Speaker 2: also lost Tim Healy, who was like our shining member
Speaker 2: of it.
Speaker 1: But shout out to him.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, of course, politics broke up the Mets
Speaker 2: clubhouse last year. Whatever happened who again? We still don't
Speaker 2: you know what's going to happen with that in the
Speaker 2: off season. We're going to clear when we get there.
Speaker 1: Big question all the guys that the Mets got rid
Speaker 1: of this year. Surely their teams are crushing it this year, right,
Speaker 1: just a quick check in.
Speaker 2: Something that's funny is that well won those things. But
Speaker 2: also all the guys that we traded away. We got
Speaker 2: a top hundred prospect off the Cubs. Clay Holmes looked
Speaker 2: horrible in this Cub's day.
Speaker 1: Look really, every trade deadline acquisition was horrible.
Speaker 4: I mean, holmes velocity was down.
Speaker 2: He wasn't throwing the curve balls anymore, which might have
Speaker 2: been a Cubs idea. He didn't get a single swing
Speaker 2: and miss on his sweeper on Saturday night. Freddie Paul
Speaker 2: is going to make another start outside the chorus field.
Speaker 2: Still hope for the best for Freddy, thank you for
Speaker 2: He hasn't pitched again. Still, it feels like he's It
Speaker 2: feels like he's been a fucking week.
Speaker 4: I think that was Wednesday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this feels like forever ago.
Speaker 4: It's been a long week. But it is interesting.
Speaker 2: I think Brasabon also, I mean, it wasn't necessarily his fault,
Speaker 2: but he gave up some runs in his first day.
Speaker 4: He came out and inherited the Runners. We know Brasubon
Speaker 4: loves that ship.
Speaker 1: But we've looked great for the Pirates.
Speaker 4: We've to look great for the Pirates. Diana was like,
Speaker 4: let's just take him back with.
Speaker 1: Us, the bounce back trade. That's what it is. You
Speaker 1: set them out on loan.
Speaker 2: He's not gonna make the playoffs anyway, who cares, But
Speaker 2: it's it's watching this game, watching this team. The rest
Speaker 2: of the season is definitely going to be a labor
Speaker 2: of love. But we're happy to do it with you, guys,
Speaker 2: or if you don't want to do it, we're happy
Speaker 2: to do it for you.
Speaker 1: No, this is a real Met fan check right now.
Speaker 1: What do you think about this team and watching it
Speaker 1: moving forward and again?
Speaker 2: Because I think so many Mets fans caught the fire
Speaker 2: between twenty twenty two and twenty twenty four and it
Speaker 2: was like Steve Cohen all this momentum one so though,
Speaker 2: oh my god, the Mets did at the Metro over
Speaker 2: the hump. And then now we're like comparing this to
Speaker 2: you know, two thousand and five and twenty ten, and
Speaker 2: you're like, these weres lean.
Speaker 1: Years, windows open and closed very quickly. Got to open
Speaker 1: this window again one more time.
Speaker 2: That's why it is nice sees a lot of these
Speaker 2: teams actually be very aggressive the trade deadline.
Speaker 4: But I think that's all I got.
Speaker 1: But time for us to do a little serious preview here.
Speaker 1: Of course, you know how much you guys love the
Speaker 1: series previews, We're not gonna skip one.
Speaker 4: As we go forward to the rest of the season.
Speaker 2: I was on Mark but against the Braves in Atlanta,
Speaker 2: and in Atlanta, no off days Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday off
Speaker 2: days going to be Thursday, back to seven and fifteen starts.
Speaker 2: Antha likes to do it late down there. Let everyone
Speaker 2: have the everyone have their drinks and food in the battery,
Speaker 2: and no day game get the way here. So Wednesday,
Speaker 2: Wednesday night, fuck Wednesday night when I have a late
Speaker 2: shift at NBC.
Speaker 4: We got to lay podcasts after that.
Speaker 2: So Monday night fun one here Christian Scott versus Bryce
Speaker 2: Elder asof I was gonna give the next one the
Speaker 2: ASoft Tuesday seven to fifteen. Nolan mcclainan versus Martin Perez,
Speaker 2: who like a cat so many lives, who will not
Speaker 2: leave this Brave's rotation. I think he's even defad by
Speaker 2: them this year. Now he's making it starts down the
Speaker 2: stretch and then Wednesday evening again Zach thor In for
Speaker 2: his Tyler Moley, who had a great, great Brave's debut,
Speaker 2: the one guy who actually had a great trade deadline debut, the.
Speaker 1: One who were like he's dead exactly, he's the one.
Speaker 2: But this Braves team just played one of I think
Speaker 2: the most fun three game series we've seen this whole
Speaker 2: season this weekend against the Yankees. There were multiple extra
Speaker 2: inning games, tight games.
Speaker 1: There was a box dispute where Chris Dale was so
Speaker 1: mad he was chirping the umpire guy. He got ejected
Speaker 1: as the last night's pitcher on Sunday before the game
Speaker 1: even started. It felt like playoff ball when they played
Speaker 1: the Yankees weekend. This Brave's team is humming right now too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And if Ronald Cutney played for the Mets, there would
Speaker 1: be articles written about how lazy he is in right field.
Speaker 2: Got to talk about that for a second, I tweeted out,
Speaker 2: not even I didn't even call him lazy.
Speaker 4: I just says, see, okay, what's he doing?
Speaker 2: Because any game of the Braves are winning two nothing,
Speaker 2: and the ninth inning on Friday, ronaldy kuneya lollygag got
Speaker 2: the multiple balls and then he threw lollipops in to
Speaker 2: relay man. No extra bases were taken, but it was
Speaker 2: him really just you know, like sauntering around out there.
Speaker 2: And then I think he's been instructed too. I think
Speaker 2: he probably has too. I don't even think he has
Speaker 2: any functional needs at this point. And then when the
Speaker 2: Yankees hit their walk off sackfly rhyme m command after
Speaker 2: real nice walk from George Lombard.
Speaker 4: Really impressive first week for the kid.
Speaker 1: Rolly Cuney Junior took a big step and just weld
Speaker 1: one up the third base line, like what's going on
Speaker 1: right now? But yeah, the opinion pieces if he was
Speaker 1: playing for the Mets Yankees would be would be a
Speaker 1: big time right now. Yeah, which is kind of hilarious.
Speaker 1: It's nice that the Braves don't ever have to deal
Speaker 1: with any of the nonsense, it seems like, despite their
Speaker 1: ownership being awful.
Speaker 2: And the funny thing is too So we beat the
Speaker 2: Braves two out of three in City Field a few
Speaker 2: weeks ago, then they swept the Nationals for four, swept
Speaker 2: the Marlins for three, and then they just lost the
Speaker 2: series to the Yankees. So this this is big for
Speaker 2: the Braves to break their New York juju because even
Speaker 2: before that with US they beat the Worlds in the series.
Speaker 2: They went three out of four against the Padres, and
Speaker 2: they beat the Rangers in the series.
Speaker 1: Lucky for them, they won't have to face New York
Speaker 1: in the playoffs because they're not going to play the
Speaker 1: Yankees because they're not making the World Series and the
Speaker 1: Mets suck.
Speaker 2: So the last time the Braves lost the series against
Speaker 2: a team not from New York, was the first half
Speaker 2: when they lost against the Cardinals. Right before that they
Speaker 2: lost to the Mets. Holy shit, nout tied the Mets
Speaker 2: to two against the Mets.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely insane. Yeah, it's it's been a weird season.
Speaker 1: Mets Braves go figure the year. We think we have
Speaker 1: the Braves number. But hey, let's play spoiler again. That's
Speaker 1: kind of what we're doing. Let's keep winning baseball games.
Speaker 1: I don't care about the draft pick, as much as
Speaker 1: it would probably help this organization in the long run.
Speaker 2: No, I just I want to see some positive momentum
Speaker 2: going to next year. And I selfish, I just I
Speaker 2: would love to crush Bryce Elder of course, Yeah, because
Speaker 2: just just for the takes of knowing ball while this
Speaker 2: offense is rolling, please just let's get let's get one
Speaker 2: over on.
Speaker 1: Which means he is going to pitch a beautiful game
Speaker 1: tomorrow night.
Speaker 2: We'll see he does that sometimes. But we also got
Speaker 2: Frankie Peppers to close it out.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for his hot take.
Speaker 2: Yeah know, I love gets a nice five minutes end
Speaker 2: of the podcast. Whatever Frankie asks his nice element, Frankie adapting, growing, developing.
Speaker 4: Here comes Frankie.
Speaker 3: Gentlemen, this is Frankie Peppers hanging Dylan. It's a very
Speaker 3: polarizing team right now.
Speaker 1: Huh.
Speaker 3: You win a million to one, you don't score, and
Speaker 3: then you have a game like you did he on Sunday.
Speaker 3: It's almost like how my teeth are treating me right now.
Speaker 3: One moment, I can't feel my mouth at all. In
Speaker 3: the next moment, all of my teeth are attacking my gums.
Speaker 3: So the recovery process is on the up and up. Gentleman,
Speaker 3: I wish I had any sort of texture. There's no
Speaker 3: texture meaning to slop the past few days, gentlemen, So.
Speaker 1: Power low power mode you So the bitch frank was
Speaker 1: rolling my heart.
Speaker 3: Take is that texture is more important than food than
Speaker 3: you realize. And what's your favorite texture when you eat food?
Speaker 3: All right, gentlemen, take care. We'll be doing well. Let's
Speaker 3: go ment I'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: As a big, big protection I'm a big texture guy.
Speaker 1: I hate bananas, love the flavor, hate the texture.
Speaker 4: That's insane.
Speaker 1: They start off like firm and then it becomes loogie
Speaker 1: consistency as you start to chew on it. That is
Speaker 1: a disturbing texture. So yes, I agree with Frankie. Texture
Speaker 1: is one of the most important things in food, and
Speaker 1: the best texture on the planet is always crispy.
Speaker 4: It was funny. I'm so not a texture guy with food.
Speaker 4: I really don't care. I'm a taste a guy through
Speaker 4: and through. Give me taste, that was all it matters.
Speaker 2: I gotta share the worst food texture I've ever had,
Speaker 2: the one time where texture made me freak.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, give me that.
Speaker 2: It was two years ago, traveling in Thailand. Was my
Speaker 2: first night there, went to a night market. I was like,
Speaker 2: I want to eat the craziest thing I can find.
Speaker 1: Did you have ballute?
Speaker 4: I did not.
Speaker 1: I ripped grilled jellyfish with chili sauce. Absolutely by far,
Speaker 1: the worst texture of any food ever. It was texture
Speaker 1: to the point where it was like chewy but also
Speaker 1: like a tough bite thrip. Oh, so it was like
Speaker 1: and a little crunch at the beginning. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: that was That was the one time.
Speaker 2: Texture really got a hold on me. But like favorite
Speaker 2: food texture, I do love a crispy but also like
Speaker 2: that when there's a crispy also like with a softer
Speaker 2: element is really nice.
Speaker 1: French fries are the best texture on the planet.
Speaker 2: Do you ever do like leftover pasta in the pan
Speaker 2: with like high heat oil.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, get a little crisp on the outside of
Speaker 1: the pasta.
Speaker 2: A little bit a little burnt that saying, like a
Speaker 2: red sauce with a little bit of meat and like
Speaker 2: get that right, you get that rick that crisp on
Speaker 2: it or you're not pay a guy, are you?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I like I like when they do and they get
Speaker 2: that crispy ass rice on the bottom.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh that's called a.
Speaker 2: Nice get call there the culture the guys. But that's
Speaker 2: that's Those are some of my favorite food textures. We
Speaker 2: get like a crisp and like a soft together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I think we can agree that is
Speaker 1: probably the top tier. We did a tier list of
Speaker 1: food textures. That might be the third episode this week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we'll see.
Speaker 4: We'll see where the season gets to. But if we
Speaker 4: have to do a tear list of food.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's it. Thank you guys for listening, Thank
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Speaker 4: It's called Mates.