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Speaker 2: A teammates.

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Speaker 3: J kid Man.

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Speaker 4: It was interrupted by business. Management changed over, so me

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Speaker 4: going to the Western Conference. At the time when I

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Speaker 4: when I signed my contract to go to the Diner Nuggets,

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Speaker 4: I was the fifth best power for fifth or sixth

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Speaker 5: By the way, yeah, by the way, the power forwards

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Speaker 4: So just that single decision because management didn't want to

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Speaker 4: pay me, Ownership didn't want to pay me. Rather management did,

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Speaker 4: ownership didn't. My time with Jake Kidd was cut short. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I stayed with Jakidd. I'm perenial All Stars, It's first team,

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Speaker 4: secondeen thirteen All NBA opportunities. So it was a lot

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Speaker 4: of implications with not being able to like longer with

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Speaker 4: Jake Kidd. We two finals, just lost to Detroit. We

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Speaker 4: thought we were right there. They beat us overtime chance

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Speaker 4: and in a half court shot the lights, so like that, right,

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Speaker 4: so we're right there, and then man, ownership make a

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Speaker 4: decision not to pay me.

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Speaker 2: So now I gotta go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that is crazy, man.

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Speaker 5: You go number one picking the draft and two years

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Speaker 5: later playing the finals.

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Speaker 1: Make an All Star team, All Star teams. That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Don't pay you, that's crazy, right where they like decided,

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Speaker 4: you know what we gotta Yeah, we got a better

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Speaker 4: product without what's the goal, right, you know we've got

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Speaker 4: a better product without this month.

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Speaker 1: We just picked one.

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Speaker 4: Like no progression, right, that's what they want to see, right,

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Speaker 4: every year back to back finals all started like next

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Speaker 4: year's going.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's just you cut the check immediately.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, come on, man, if it was not day there

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Speaker 4: to cut off, it would happened a year before I

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Speaker 4: went even got to it. I would have never got it.

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Speaker 4: I would have never gotten an open market immediately got

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Speaker 4: never got it would have been after three, After year three,

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Speaker 4: you would have been the.

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Speaker 3: Max extensions boom right there. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: What's the best advice you received from a teammate or

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Speaker 3: Teammate, uh or coach? The best advice?

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Speaker 1: I like the Hugs told you when he recruited you.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, no, that that's that was the really Like,

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Speaker 4: so y'all went, so the people Bob Huggins recruited me

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Speaker 4: told me wasn't go give me nothing but a hard

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Speaker 4: time and a pair of tennis shoes.

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Speaker 1: And you're crazy.

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Speaker 3: I signed up for everything else you got to earn.

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Speaker 4: It was either that to go practice with John Cheney

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Speaker 4: them at five in the morning. Bro, I don't play basketball.

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Speaker 4: I was, brother, like my body on my feet on monument.

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Speaker 6: Listen, that's what I had to learn from Mike. I

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Speaker 6: had to learn from Mike how to get up at

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Speaker 6: five am and go to the gym because that was

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Speaker 6: not a part of my life. But that was at eighteen.

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Speaker 6: That was he was doing that. Yes he was, and

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Speaker 6: he grew up in the gym. Yeah, he used to think.

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Speaker 1: He was.

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Speaker 4: Like Listen, listen, we in college too. We in college

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Speaker 4: was shooting in the snow, were going out.

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Speaker 6: It's a party time, Hey, killer, what you're doing going

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Speaker 1: Hey? Came up.

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Speaker 5: One thing I didn't like with school, brother, I was

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Speaker 4: I didn't like this either, but I wasn't that good,

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Speaker 4: so I had I had to stick around.

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Speaker 2: Got this, Hey, I went. Let listen one thing for sure,

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Speaker 2: two things. Listen.

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Speaker 4: My freshman year, I went to every class. I wasn't

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Speaker 4: that good at basketball, right, this is real. I wasn't

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Speaker 4: that good. Played three and a half every three and

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Speaker 4: the number one team in the country. When I got there,

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Speaker 4: I went to every class, made the Deans list all.

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Speaker 4: My sophomore year was still going miss here and there.

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Speaker 4: senior year, boy campus, listen is here en road? And

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Speaker 3: Like when don't you supposed to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm supposed to be in class.

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Speaker 1: But see your senior year with my freshman year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, happen, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: So that was what time of day you walked into

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Speaker 6: the basketball office. He was just happened to be in

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Speaker 6: this fuck. I was like, what is going on?

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Speaker 2: Hey? Man?

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Speaker 3: Where that blue car?

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Speaker 4: That?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: They ain't shit that check the card yet? You know

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Speaker 4: what I'm talking about to right, Hey, they ain't shit there.

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Speaker 4: He ain't hit that Pro Trust card yet?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: What he Hey? Where that god damn Pro Trust card?

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Speaker 1: At?

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Speaker 6: Man?

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Speaker 4: He know what, I don't know if I'm I don't

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Speaker 4: I don't feel good Today's I don't know if I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna be able to play today. Bro, where he where

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Speaker 4: that a man I'm trying to go to.

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Speaker 2: I need these jas that Hey they.

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Speaker 3: Late the pro trust car trust card.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yes.

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Speaker 1: Every one day when when one day with the door.

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Speaker 3: Knock, seen it with my own eye. See, I guess

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Speaker 3: what I told him?

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Speaker 1: He scared me?

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Speaker 3: Got it cut listen, you gave it to you. I

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Speaker 3: don't want to know nothing.

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Speaker 2: Run it.

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Speaker 3: Put me down.

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Speaker 4: I want to put me down. Nothing I earned that

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Speaker 4: one brun. I don't hear no words. Ye hear nothing.

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Speaker 4: He get up, he go to the door.

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Speaker 3: He just come back. Ain't nobody say yeah, I don't

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Speaker 4: Hey, hey yeah, I need it all jack Man by

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Speaker 4: time yo. And then when I and then the math

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Speaker 4: like when I got hurt right the flood gates like

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Speaker 4: people just it was coming from every direction, like hey,

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Speaker 4: what you need?

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Speaker 2: What you want?

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Speaker 1: What you need? What you want?

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Speaker 3: What you need?

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Speaker 2: Where you want to go? You want to go?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 2: You want to go?

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Speaker 1: You want to go?

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Speaker 2: Hear you? I got what is you need?

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Speaker 1: This?

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Speaker 2: You want this? Hey?

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Speaker 3: You got man?

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Speaker 4: I ain't want man listen dog well for everybody, the

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Speaker 4: mama was trying to get on that train like I'm

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Speaker 4: gonna go.

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Speaker 3: Over here, Steve.

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Speaker 2: You know how that pro trust cards still work? Pro

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Speaker 2: Trust cards your work Jack.

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Speaker 3: School.

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Speaker 6: I went to school, I say, man, I'm gonna do right.

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Speaker 6: I went to all my classes. I tried to do

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Speaker 6: all that well. When them grades came back and said,

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Speaker 3: I got a cheat.

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Speaker 2: No, you ain't cheating. You ain't trying.

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Speaker 3: I said, if I ain't cheating, I ain't trying because

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Speaker 3: this ain't it.

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Speaker 4: No.

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Speaker 3: I tried, killer, You know, we both tried.

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Speaker 2: We did, man, bro, you was all you was on

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Speaker 2: eight months. I was a short time on campus. Man,

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Speaker 2: y'all know that school.

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Speaker 3: He ain't go to class either. I ain't never go

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Speaker 3: to class, go to class.

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Speaker 1: They made me sign up. We made it start.

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Speaker 6: He go to all the workouts though. We got to

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Speaker 6: run at six am. Oh, he run like a got

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Speaker 2: Got it?

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Speaker 1: My boy, Jay Will said, he sat on the podcast.

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Speaker 5: He had a story where coach Donal came to me said, hey, man, like,

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Speaker 5: you gotta start going to class or you're going to

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Speaker 5: show up and run.

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Speaker 1: At six am every morning. He said, see them all

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Speaker 7: Coach yeah, no, last I made my mind up class,

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Speaker 7: this is not this is enough up for debate or negotiation,

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Speaker 7: not going. And my mom was a teacher. My dad

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Speaker 7: was a principal. Didn't be the worst one. I had

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Speaker 3: What you going to school in high school?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I had to show that to my dad? Would my ass?

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Speaker 3: Okay?

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Speaker 2: It was really good?

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Speaker 3: Now my mom was a teacher. My dad was a principal.

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Speaker 1: Oh that was worse.

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Speaker 2: Not being the principal, though.

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Speaker 2: Everybody feared the principal, no doubt. Yo, imagine him being

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Speaker 1: Think about how angry that my principal, worst thing going worst?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think about how angry and he was when

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Speaker 3: So he was a.

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Speaker 1: Hey, bro, I appreciate you coming in here for real?

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Speaker 4: Its real mean man, Yeah, guys doing it right. Man,

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Speaker 4: appreciate you having me. Man, we ago you're coaching now.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, because this is the evolution we talked about.

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Speaker 4: To punch you in your lose all thirty two pickups. Now,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about the evolution down. Let's talk about who

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Speaker 4: you are. Now, let's talk about the woos before we go,

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Speaker 4: we will sign. So you grow, man, you evolved and

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Speaker 4: like everybody'll see the tattoos and the clips.

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Speaker 2: And hanging on the rim and certain shot and dead.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, you grow.

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Speaker 4: And I'm coaching fifth grade girls basketball, man love, I'm working.

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Speaker 2: On my inner being and on trying not to always

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Speaker 2: be on edge with people.

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so gotta gotta handle the little girl with white gloves, right.

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Speaker 4: So it's me giving back and me working on my

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Speaker 4: I want to coach as little boys the same age,

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Speaker 4: and I told him not a chance. He one of

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Speaker 4: them go is gonna be the first day maybe Coach

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Speaker 4: Martin called me a little more daddy.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how to respond to it.

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Speaker 1: So, hey, hey, hey, you're you're actually you're actually for

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Speaker 1: your situation.

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Speaker 5: It's actually good because if you started getting a little

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Speaker 5: older and in the boy parents you strangle.

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Speaker 6: You're gonna I said, if you have a bunch of

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Speaker 6: fifth grade girls with your mentality, you got yourself to

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Speaker 3: What the fifth grade girls that they.

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Speaker 2: Got meal, you ain't losing the game.

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