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Speaker 3: Look, I'm that wind took the light out of me.

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Speaker 5: We'll talk.

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Speaker 3: Look, you know the Lakers, we know.

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Speaker 5: When to show up.

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Speaker 4: One of the time banner number eighteen.

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Speaker 6: It doesn't know eighteen point one, seventeen point one.

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Speaker 3: But yes, we're just going to talk about that.

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Speaker 6: The state of the Houston Rocket and plenty more to

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Speaker 6: discuss with former player and current ROCKETSTV analyst Ryan Holland

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Speaker 6: on today's episode, Ti'm Miles Great.

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Speaker 4: And I'm Jack O'Brien and this is who Miles.

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Speaker 1: Checkup man, Bluesteve.

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Speaker 3: Take us there, mby driving spinning k Curry a three pointer,

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Speaker 3: bad stuff.

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Speaker 1: Curry from down tell.

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Speaker 3: The game to be honest with the Telly.

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Speaker 6: Welcome to the show, Ryan Hollins, Houston Rockets color analysts,

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Speaker 6: former player, former Bruin. You know he also in alumni

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Speaker 6: shout out to the UCLA Bruins h and also owner

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Speaker 6: of New Music Clothing.

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Speaker 3: Welcome to the show, man, how are.

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Speaker 5: You doing, good man? Thanks for having me tell us.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, of course of course, good to have you,

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Speaker 6: So you know, you're working with the Rockets looking at

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Speaker 2: The road, spectacular, spectacular, it's a fortress.

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Speaker 3: It's a fortress.

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Speaker 2: Less spectacular on the road. Yeah, but they did get there,

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Speaker 6: It looks like it's it's it'slating, it's popping, it's moving.

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Speaker 5: Was aesthetic going in because maybe this wasn't the you know,

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Speaker 5: He's been spectacular. Yeah, they have changed the entire landscape

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Speaker 5: I knew it would be better. I didn't know it

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Speaker 5: He's got Fred van Fleet running the pick and roll.

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Speaker 5: So now he's like, all right, Like there's certain guys

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Speaker 5: pop pop, if you want to roll roll, you want

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Speaker 5: letting him do that. Where there were moments where he

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Speaker 5: of times that's extremely frowned upon. So that's another element

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Speaker 2: Shaw asked what's been more important Udoka, the players, the

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Speaker 2: Mojo King, Yes, the Mojo King. Why does Houston look

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Speaker 3: Also, you caught Wenby up close recently.

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Speaker 6: You saw that, I mean we saw from many feet

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Speaker 5: You got a chance to be one of the greatest

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Speaker 5: players that we've ever seen played the game. How mentally

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Speaker 5: hundred percent determined on that. And even if he doesn't

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Speaker 5: right now and he plays a center position, he can

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Speaker 5: And if San Antonio had like pieces around him, he's

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Speaker 5: easily twenty twenty guys. But if he goes and works,

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Speaker 5: he gets bigger, he gets mentally tough, he gets upset.

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Speaker 5: It's it's almost impossible to guard him with his touch, length,

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Speaker 5: He's he's one of the most unique, if not the

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Speaker 5: most unique prospect we've ever seen. So how much stronger

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Speaker 5: every time I've seen him, He's done something I've never

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Speaker 5: seen before. Bro. He punched on chegoon where he just

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Speaker 5: turned and it was it was a nerveful punch on

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Speaker 5: like what.

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Speaker 3: Like get your road in the.

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Speaker 4: That was terrible and we love it. We want some

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Speaker 5: Unfortunately, whether he likes it or not, his best position

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Speaker 5: is probably going to be playing the five. I like

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Speaker 5: what Pop is did, what they're doing with him, and

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Speaker 5: I'm intrigued to see. I think what Pop is doing

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Speaker 5: when you really watch them and break down, he just

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Speaker 5: all right, wenby uh, we want you posting up more.

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Speaker 5: All right, if you shoot a three, we'll want more

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Speaker 3: What is that adjustment process?

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Speaker 5: Even?

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Speaker 6: Like like how do you even you just you have

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Speaker 2: He's not like that unique if you had been watching

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Speaker 3: Years ixtape I remember ye, especially the MP section of

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Speaker 5: I mean you saw you saw the Mavericks were practicing,

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Speaker 5: If it's he's got like as man, if I'm not mistaken,

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Speaker 5: off the bounce. You know, he can legit, he can

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Speaker 5: he can mix a little bit. He's not he's not

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Speaker 5: he's been doing, it's he don't got to pretend handle it.

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Speaker 5: It's really got on the string, Like it's wild.

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Speaker 2: He's got the best handle for somebody that I've seen

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Speaker 4: Uh as a, he could be.

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Speaker 5: He could be defensive player the year this year. It

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Speaker 5: probably should be because even though san Antonio is not

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Speaker 3: Game, right yeah, like you got to count like where.

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Speaker 5: Like when you go to me, like as a former player,

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Speaker 5: plan up. Like we used to play Dwight Howard. We

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Speaker 2: anybody in the top seventeen per game, so pretty pretty crazy,

433
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Speaker 2: Like yeah, yeah, I picked him like as an upset

434
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Speaker 2: pick for Defensive Player of the Year, but their team

435
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:27,200
Speaker 2: defensive stats are so bad that I don't think it's happening, right, Yeah, but.

436
00:21:27,119 --> 00:21:28,760
Speaker 6: It part of me, it's like the impressive thing is

437
00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,080
Speaker 6: like just for him being on the court, what it's

438
00:21:32,160 --> 00:21:34,760
Speaker 6: doing to people, And I think, like I wish that

439
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,359
Speaker 6: was enough to say, like, well, defensively, like we have

440
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Speaker 6: to kind of acknowledge like what he's done. I mean,

441
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Speaker 6: even when like Jokicic looked a little bit out of

442
00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,960
Speaker 6: sorts against him, I was like, wow, it's it's like that.

443
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Speaker 4: I guess, yeah, all right, should we do it? Should

444
00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,000
Speaker 4: we do the D season Tournament?

445
00:21:49,560 --> 00:21:53,840
Speaker 5: My jack I mean, look.

446
00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,879
Speaker 3: You know, I like to be humbled. You know, obviously

447
00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,640
Speaker 3: I'm an unwell Lakers fan.

448
00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,600
Speaker 6: And how does it team that's whatever about five hundred

449
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 6: in the league, just getting to the top of the top,

450
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,560
Speaker 6: the height of all heights in the N season tournament.

451
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Speaker 6: I for a second, I was like watching the Pacers

452
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Speaker 6: get there. I was like, Okay, this is gonna this

453
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Speaker 6: is gonna be a game.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

455
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Speaker 3: And it wasn't. It wasn't quite that way. It wasn't

456
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Speaker 3: quite that way. It was actually quite comfortable in a

457
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Speaker 3: fun watch. But ad my goodness, forty one and twenty I.

458
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Speaker 4: Was, I was.

459
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Speaker 6: I had tears in my eyes because I was hoping

460
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Speaker 6: for that consistency. Yeah, I'm hoping that this can maybe

461
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Speaker 6: be something.

462
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Speaker 3: But we'll question, do.

463
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:38,720
Speaker 4: You guys on the title in the bubble?

464
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Speaker 2: Like he had a game like that and then the

465
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Speaker 2: next game it was kind of he kind of came

466
00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:47,200
Speaker 2: back to earth. But yeah, yeah, yeah, if he can,

467
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Speaker 2: if he can turn that on in the biggest moments.

468
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Speaker 4: Uh. I like the Lakers.

469
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Speaker 3: I like the Lakers.

470
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Speaker 6: I mean, but that's the thing we're always saying, is like,

471
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Speaker 6: you know, like Lebron, I mean, like, who was I

472
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,399
Speaker 6: was on a textir with somebody like the man is.

473
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Speaker 6: He was like he's gotten the DeLorean for that game,

474
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Speaker 6: and I thought he opped out in like twenty ten

475
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Speaker 6: or something like that.

476
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Speaker 3: But it was wild to watch.

477
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Speaker 6: I mean, Ryan, you were watching, like what were your

478
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Speaker 6: like overall? How did you How did you enjoy the

479
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Speaker 6: Ncason Tournament? Cause I think like for me were us,

480
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,880
Speaker 6: we were like, Okay, let's see how it goes.

481
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 3: We'll see how invested they are. And then we're like, oh,

482
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Speaker 3: that's right.

483
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 6: When five hundred thousand dollars is on the line, you

484
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Speaker 6: will see people show up.

485
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Speaker 5: Here's the thing that you got to understand about NBA players.

486
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 5: These dudes would darn their fight over a five dollars

487
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,919
Speaker 5: back in a shooting game, literally like scrap Like, you

488
00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:41,399
Speaker 5: guys are millionaires, multi millionaires, but y'all going to scrap

489
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,440
Speaker 5: over a five like and talk trash. Right. So at

490
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 5: the end of the day, I knew just the fact

491
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,520
Speaker 5: of New Court, New Jersey's guys were going to play hard.

492
00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 5: National media comes in, you know, you want to be

493
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Speaker 5: a part of it, and all those guys, man, I

494
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 5: ain't chipping off like they were trying to win. You

495
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Speaker 5: kind of want to nonchalantly win, like you know that light.

496
00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 5: But yeah, pats off to Lebron, And I don't think

497
00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 5: people are gonna understand its value till he's gone that

498
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 5: he wants to give you all eighty two games and

499
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Speaker 5: then like he's laying it on the line, like the

500
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Speaker 5: guy loves basketball. And I think what we've seen him

501
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Speaker 5: with two three times this year already, he's gotten better

502
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Speaker 5: this year. It's almost like this is like his third

503
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 5: stage of life in his basketball life right right, And

504
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Speaker 5: like I will say, like he's adapted to his old

505
00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 5: man body all right, Like this is it like his

506
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 5: old man body. And now he's like, okay, pull up jumper,

507
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 5: post game pick and roll a d lob like he's

508
00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:46,119
Speaker 5: knows he's in a nice little pocket of basketball right now.

509
00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,240
Speaker 5: And then he's got guys that are defending and hustling

510
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:50,239
Speaker 5: around him, so he's like, cool, just just be in

511
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,720
Speaker 5: my spot, play my assignment, and I'm gonna be good.

512
00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:58,159
Speaker 5: And you're seeing that from Lebron. Also, I think what

513
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 5: people don't understand Lebron, you can now I will say it.

514
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 5: Lebron is the greatest athlete we've ever seen in any sport.

515
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 5: You may ravel him with like a bo Jackson, like

516
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 5: from just the talent, how high do you jump? How tall?

517
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 5: A fashion like, he's the greatest athlete we've ever seen.

518
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,439
Speaker 5: He probably could have He could have gone pro in

519
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 5: just about anything, baseball, football, But that's you know, like whatever, right, soccer,

520
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,240
Speaker 5: like he gets done. He's blazing past right, right, Hockey

521
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 5: easily easy, right, we can all agree to that. So

522
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Speaker 5: when you go when you're like at the one percent

523
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Speaker 5: of athletes ever and now like Lebron, let's say he's

524
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Speaker 5: like it's seventy or sixty percent, he's still a really

525
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Speaker 5: good NBA athlete. So when you guys, when we look

526
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Speaker 5: at longevity, obviously skill is a huge component, but those

527
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Speaker 5: elite off the chain athletes have the longevity because now

528
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,320
Speaker 5: they're just good NBA athletes. You get what I'm saying.

529
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Speaker 4: That's how those guys.

530
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Speaker 5: Can last and play forever. Obviously, injuries are every every

531
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Speaker 5: bitten part of it, but like just being good like

532
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Speaker 5: Vince Carter. When I played with Vince, I forget what

533
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 5: year he played, like three or four more years even

534
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 5: after that, which was disgusting, right, but Vince had a

535
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 5: thirty seven and a half its vertical. We measured out

536
00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:14,320
Speaker 5: of Petere and Santa Barbara, right, and it was like, dang,

537
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 5: he's still killing because also Vince has a Jimmy he

538
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 5: could shoot. So when you when you're evaluating those guys

539
00:26:19,840 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 5: that can go through, it's those athletes that are going

540
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Speaker 5: to be able to be able to last. And you're

541
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Speaker 5: seeing that from LB right now, he's like a good

542
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 5: he's like a good NBA athlete, Like he's good NBA.

543
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Speaker 5: But you got to realize the dude was a one percenter,

544
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,960
Speaker 5: you know, in his prime, right.

545
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Speaker 3: I mean, it's what it's also while to hear.

546
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Speaker 6: I'm like, I think I'm two months older than Lebron

547
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 6: and I'm like, oh, that's an old man body.

548
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, yeah, and I'm going to my old Guden

549
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:50,240
Speaker 2: body by going to bed early and recognizing that I'm

550
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Speaker 2: going to wake up at five every morning.

551
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Speaker 6: Right, And I'm like, if I if I sit like

552
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 6: all weird on my foot on the couch for too long,

553
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,679
Speaker 6: I will be limping for two minutes.

554
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Speaker 4: When I got out the couch.

555
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 3: But yeah, he's.

556
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Speaker 5: He's got it.

557
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,159
Speaker 6: He's got the goods man, And yeah, I mean and

558
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 6: also ar shout out shout out Austin Reeves too, twenty

559
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 6: eight off the bench, I think, and I think he

560
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 6: was sick or something too.

561
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,680
Speaker 4: So it was a very the Austin Reeves flu game.

562
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Speaker 2: I do just want to say the ad stat line

563
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 2: for that game forty one five assists, four blocks. His

564
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: defense is like it he speaking of Defensive Player of

565
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,800
Speaker 2: the Year. This is the most I've been invested in

566
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Speaker 2: Defensive Player of the Year. But like, there's some fun

567
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 2: candidates and I feel like a d he's never won it,

568
00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 2: and it feels like he's been doing some things that

569
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,639
Speaker 2: are pretty impressive that like, Yeah, especially in the playoff

570
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 2: run last year, I found a new appreciation for what

571
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,639
Speaker 2: a just lockdown shot stopper he is.

572
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,120
Speaker 4: Yeah.

573
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was doing it both ends in that year.

574
00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 4: So yeah, all right, it's time.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna take a quick break and come back with

576
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Speaker 2: a rapid fire segment of questioning to close it out

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Speaker 2: the fast this segment and podcasting.

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Speaker 4: We'll be right.

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Speaker 1: Back and we're back.

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Speaker 6: Guess what, Ryan Hollands UCLA history major, You've come up

581
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Speaker 6: against another u c l A History major, and this

582
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Speaker 6: time we're gonna make history by maintaining our record as

583
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Speaker 6: the fastest question and answer segment in all sports podcasting history.

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Speaker 3: Okay, this is the.

585
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Speaker 6: Rapid fire rounder questioning Ryan Hollins. We're gonna ask you

586
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Speaker 6: a question. Don't think quick, just chest pass it right back. Okay, No,

587
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,280
Speaker 6: don't no, nothing fancy. And if we start talking and

588
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 6: dragging things on you. You got a bit of professionalism about you.

589
00:28:47,440 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 6: We're gonna need you to keep the segment moving too,

590
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 6: because sometimes we get sloppy, so we will. We are

591
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Speaker 6: gonna lean on you as well, because you're a professional

592
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Speaker 6: in so many ways.

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Speaker 4: Is that cool?

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Speaker 5: I guess I'll be Jabbari right now. Just call it.

595
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Speaker 3: Well, guess what Jabbari We're get about to get locked in?

596
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Speaker 5: Bright start the Clock.

597
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,720
Speaker 4: Says it was such a mean look on its face.

598
00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 3: Because it's intense.

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Speaker 5: Line.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you want to kick?

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Speaker 3: I mean yeah, yeah, I guess we could.

602
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 4: Uh who went first?

603
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 3: Last time?

604
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Speaker 5: Did I go first? Last time?

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00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 4: I forget?

606
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 2: I think it was okay, Yeah, yeah, I think you

607
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 2: went first last time? You want me to go first?

608
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,520
Speaker 3: Whatever's up to you? I mean, all right, just whichever Ryan,

609
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Speaker 3: who do you think should go first?

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Speaker 5: Jack?

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00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 4: All right?

612
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 5: Cool?

613
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:33,200
Speaker 4: Ryan?

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Speaker 2: Contenders The pretenders aka teams that need to be active

615
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Speaker 2: ahead of the trade deadline.

616
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Speaker 4: And why we got.

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Speaker 2: The Sons, we got the Sixers, we got the Lakers,

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Speaker 2: we got the Warriors. Who do you think needs to

619
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Speaker 2: make some moves? Who do you think needs to stamp patten?

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Speaker 4: Who?

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Speaker 2: Who do you think is like secretly kind of strong

622
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: because they've got embiiding Teres Maxy.

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Speaker 3: And easy easy easy easy, don't know?

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Speaker 4: Oh sorry, sorry, lead the witness objection your honor?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, sustance, Okay, so okay you that was a real

626
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 5: loaded question right there from the Lakers. I stay pat

627
00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 5: unless they can package a lot for a third star.

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Speaker 5: I don't. I don't see that, just realistic unless somebody

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Speaker 5: becomes very disgruntled out there, someone that would actually make sense.

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Speaker 5: If I'm the Sun that stay packed. I think they

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Speaker 5: have enough ob least we can't, you know, fairly evaluate

632
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Speaker 5: them without Bradley bell Uh in the lineup. What are

633
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Speaker 5: the other teams that you said Warriors sixes could make

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00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,480
Speaker 5: a move. I think MAXI is showing you that he's

635
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 5: a guy. So maybe even if you get another score

636
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 5: in the lineup, if you're the Warriors, I think there's

637
00:30:50,160 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 5: a move that they can make. I'm not sure what

638
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 5: it is exactly, but I think I think they're not

639
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 5: contenders right now, and I think a move could put

640
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,320
Speaker 5: them where they need to where they need to be.

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00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 5: You know, I think they got to be a little

642
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 5: more youthful. They need someone to take the load off

643
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 5: of step and Clay and obviously Chris is doing an

644
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:12,600
Speaker 5: excellent job, but just a third, third guy in the mix,

645
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 5: you know, I think they're they're missing Jordan Poole, his youth,

646
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:20,600
Speaker 5: his excitement, his scoring. But they've gotten better as far

647
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 5: as you know, the lowered clearly, clearly with Chris Paul

648
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 5: lowered the turnovers. But I still think they need that

649
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 5: like just hyper super score that just wants to come in,

650
00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 5: and that Nick Young, you know, that guy that just

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Speaker 5: wants to go get a bucket, that j R. Smith Like,

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Speaker 5: I think they need that element of Jordan Poole, but

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Speaker 5: the other stuff, you know, you had to go let

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Speaker 5: him be free, right right?

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Speaker 6: Okay, biggest surprise team or players so far and like

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Speaker 6: and I'll give you, you know, like any like Minneapolis

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Speaker 6: seventeen and five or Minnesot'm sorry, Minnesota seventeen and five,

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Speaker 6: Orlando sixteen and seven, OKC fifteen and seven Golden State

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Speaker 6: is ten to twelve. Who's who surprised you or his

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Speaker 6: team or player so far and it was just some options.

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Speaker 5: But from your heart, I would say Chet home, Gern

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Speaker 5: and Okay, see, I think that you know, there are

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Speaker 5: a lot of more questions and answers with Chad. He

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Speaker 5: got injured, and I think he's very unique in Oklahoma City.

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Speaker 5: Like man there. I wouldn't say they're contenders right now,

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Speaker 5: but like they're in the mix, and it's like funny,

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Speaker 5: we just played them and they're like, yeah, we're just developing.

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00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 5: This is a developmental year. But like they are, they're

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Speaker 5: really really good and they just got a unique style.

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Speaker 5: They built the culture there. I would say they stand out,

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Speaker 5: really really stand out with the success that they had,

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Speaker 5: uh they've had over there, so I'll give them that.

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Speaker 5: And and Chat, I think he's been he's been balling.

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00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 5: He's kind of like showed you some flashes. And if

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Speaker 5: any of us were like Chat's going to be better

676
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 5: than Wemby like with him and like you're crazy, you know,

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Speaker 5: but like right now, like he he likely should be

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Speaker 5: the rookie of the Year. So I would say check

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Speaker 5: Bemby is something that. I don't. I don't think anybody

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Speaker 5: was rolling with that take, you know that week, even

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Speaker 5: for you Jack.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even for me, which you know, I'm a Wemby

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Speaker 2: homer in the Camphor.

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Speaker 4: All Right, who's.

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Speaker 2: The most underappreciator of the all time great? Like if

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Speaker 2: it's a guy that deserves to be mentioned but often

687
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Speaker 2: left out of the all time debates.

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Speaker 4: Kareem Kareem All people.

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Speaker 5: Forget Kareem was Wimby before Wimby broke. He didn't play

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Speaker 5: that style of basketball. But if you dropped Kareem in

691
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Speaker 5: today's NBA, he's pushing the ball ninety four feet, he's

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00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 5: crossing you over. He's pulling up for three. If you

693
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,960
Speaker 5: can shoot a skyhook after fifteen foot, you can shoot.

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Speaker 5: They said he could shoot his skyhook to the three

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Speaker 5: point line. It was that like his touch was that crazy.

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Speaker 5: So like imagine Kareem coming down off the bout some

697
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 5: about magic. You set the picker roll this time like

698
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:49,960
Speaker 5: he was that type of athlete. There's a poster and

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Speaker 5: Polly excuse me, is it is it still Polly Pavilion

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Speaker 5: or they rename it forgive me? Yeah? I played in Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: We're like Kareem his whole head and everything as above

702
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 5: the rim, like Kareem was Wimby before Wimby when they

703
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 5: talk about that goat conversation. I need more respect on

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Speaker 5: Kareem's night. All right.

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Speaker 2: People, I've had older people tell me, like watching Wemby,

706
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: They're like, man, it's like it truly is. Just like

707
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: the way he runs is a lot like watching Kareem,

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00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: like move on the court, like get everything about him.

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00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:22,080
Speaker 2: And they have very similar bodies like set seven foot four,

710
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: very thin.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and it makes sense that he was even you know,

712
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 6: asking for guidance or Kareem was offering him guidance on

713
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 6: like you know, longevity and like what to do with

714
00:34:32,000 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 6: a body like that in the league.

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Speaker 5: And lo low key, Kareem was ahead in the physical

716
00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 5: fitness game because he was doing martial arts, which added

717
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 5: a lot of breathing yoga s. Yeah, so all this stuff,

718
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 5: we pay all this money for him, put these names

719
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,399
Speaker 5: like Kareem was doing that a long time ago.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So it gets flexibility right, right, So maybe some

721
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Speaker 6: of these guys need to get in a movie with

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Speaker 6: Jet Lee or something, you know what I mean, Like

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Speaker 6: how he was a Bruce Lee just you know, just

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Speaker 6: to make sure you tick.

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Speaker 3: All the boxes.

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Speaker 6: All right, Riot, what is the most underrated NBA city

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00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,400
Speaker 6: to visit and what is your must have meal in

728
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 6: that town?

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Speaker 5: You know, honorable mention. Dude, I just had stirfry in

730
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Speaker 5: Denver and I was blown away. It's the best sturfry

731
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Speaker 5: I've ever had in my life. Like Benka had nothing

732
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 5: on this Denver stirfry. I think it was like mister

733
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:23,719
Speaker 5: Fuji or Fiji Mount Fuji, phoebe something like that. I

734
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Speaker 5: forget what the name was. Okay, forgive me if I

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00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 5: butchered the name. But low key city, Fellas Miles, you're

736
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:37,600
Speaker 5: a bad one for this one city. I miss Seattle.

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00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 5: I missed Seattle obviously. If I know Chicago, you know Miami,

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Speaker 5: you know you New York? Dang, you know Dallas popping?

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Speaker 4: I did not know Dallas.

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00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 5: Dallas popping. Oh, Dallas is definitely popping intown. Hey, you

741
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 5: guys are discussed. Why would you ask me this?

742
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,400
Speaker 3: You've been there, you know.

743
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 5: That's all you got was spot.

744
00:36:06,760 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 2: I haven't moved out to the studio in seven years.

745
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,239
Speaker 5: Is really spread out. I like Orlando, but it's spread out.

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Speaker 5: I would say you know. It's funny. A lot of

747
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 5: people moved to Orlando. They they play there and they

748
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 5: always buy houses there. There's a lot of guys that

749
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 5: live down there. Oh hey, Charlotte is turnt now. Oh

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00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 5: yeah it is different now broo Charlotte. Okay, when I

751
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 5: from when I was drafted there to now, it's a

752
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 5: whole new city broke bopping.

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00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: What was What was it like then and what's it

754
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:37,919
Speaker 3: like now?

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00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 5: The downtown area there was like nothing like kind of

756
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 5: to do. It was kind of like there and you

757
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 5: had to like kind of drive somewhere whatever. Like Charlotte

758
00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,480
Speaker 5: is like a like a low, low key mini Atlanta,

759
00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:55,880
Speaker 5: like Charlotte Home. Charlotte is because it's it's just three hours.

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00:36:55,960 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 5: It's like three hours. And then you got California weather

761
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 5: and Charlotte's the it's very comparable to California. We otherwise nice. Wow,

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00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 5: people don't know that. Yeah, it's like yeah, all right,

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Speaker 5: you heard it here great and here all right, fun

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Speaker 2: And finally, you can retroactively space jam yourself into having

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Speaker 2: Robert Orry's career or Charles Barkley's career, which one you choose.

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Speaker 5: Me give me the bread give me the bread and

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Speaker 5: I get to commentate after be better after than Uh yeah,

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Speaker 5: give me the bread. Shout out big shot, right, yeah,

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Speaker 5: good time.

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Speaker 3: Friend of the show for the Robert Ory obviously.

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Speaker 6: Oh man, well Ryan his way too, Yeah yeah for real,

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Speaker 6: for real, Well Ryan, thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 6: I was the jack got mad boosties. Where can people

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 5: This has been a fun, really fun season. And again

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Speaker 5: I'm interactive. Y'all write me. I likely right back, and uh,

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Speaker 5: you guys keep doing an amazing job, man, fun fun

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Speaker 4: Oh, I appreciate that.

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Speaker 4: Gonna do It.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna do it. We'll see you next week.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for listening, and we'll have plenty more because the

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Speaker 6: season never ends.

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Speaker 3: I mean it does end, but you know what we're

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Speaker 3: talking about. We're around and we'll be back, all right,

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Speaker 3: see you guys.

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Speaker 4: Bye,