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Speaker 1: is joining us live. We always appreciate that. Fifteen years

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. You know, it's funny about timing and rhythm.

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Speaker 1: And I've said this before when you came out of USC,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, that's what a quarterback should look. Big, confident,

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Speaker 1: strong arm throwing it and you could move like we

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Speaker 1: tend to forget that Drew Brees early could move. You know,

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Speaker 1: as guys get older, they move less. But where do

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Speaker 1: you fall on the timing and rhythm and then off

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Speaker 1: script stuff? Because I do feel like off script is

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Speaker 1: probably what wins you Super Bowls. But the timing and

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Speaker 1: rhythm stuff you should be played at a pretty high

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Speaker 1: level with that. Like what do you see with Caleb

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Speaker 1: that maybe you look at and it concerns you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the timing and rhythm aspect of his game and

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Speaker 2: just playing within the pocket is nonexistent. His outside the pocket,

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Speaker 2: you know, making a play, extending a play is as

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Speaker 2: good as anybody else in the league, with maybe the

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Speaker 2: exception of Mahomes. I mean, once he gets outside the pocket,

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Speaker 2: he's got the ability to contort his body to throw

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Speaker 2: it back across the field, across his body, he's got zip,

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Speaker 2: he's got velocity on the ball. Athletically, That's where he

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Speaker 2: thrives is outside the pocket. That's one of the hardest

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Speaker 2: places to make it in the NFL is outside the pocket.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's that system.

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Speaker 2: You look at Jared gofflet what he was doing with

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff when he was in Detroit last year. Everything

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Speaker 2: Jared did and all of their success in Detroit came

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Speaker 2: from within the pocket. And I just have yet to

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Speaker 2: watch a game where I've seen him excel in the

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Speaker 2: pocket and you know, drop back, take, you know, go

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Speaker 2: through his footwork, whether it's five steps, one hitch, two hitch,

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Speaker 2: three hitch, and then extend to play.

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Speaker 3: You're just seeing him get to the pocket, look around,

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Speaker 2: Then escape, as opposed to getting the soft spot in

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Speaker 2: the pocket and then stepping up and going through his

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Speaker 2: progressions and going through his reads, I just don't see

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Speaker 2: the development there for the last couple of years. And

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Speaker 2: I don't see a comfort level with Caleb's game within

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Speaker 1: So I think the amazing thing about Jordan Love he

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Speaker 1: sat for three years. To be a first round pick,

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Speaker 1: you had to sit for a year behind a guy

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Speaker 1: that you were clearly more gifted.

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Speaker 4: Then good guy.

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Speaker 1: But like Mahomes sat behind Alex Smith, I get a year.

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Speaker 1: When you're sitting for three years, it would pull your

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Speaker 1: hair out. And here's Jordan Love, total grown up mature.

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Speaker 1: How hard do you think it was to sit for

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Speaker 3: It's a huge.

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Speaker 2: Challenge, especially you know, if you're pick, you've probably been

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Speaker 2: So for the first time in your career, you're having

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Speaker 2: fortunately for him, he wasn't probably ripping his hair out

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Speaker 2: when you talked about his game, Jordan's game reminding you

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Speaker 2: Love play, he reminds me of Aaron Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: I mean the way he throws the ball, the way he.

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Speaker 2: Moves within the pocket, the velocity the ball comes out,

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Speaker 2: think he spent those three years diagnosing his game, picking

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Speaker 2: because he did not look like that coming out of Nevada.

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Speaker 2: The ball did not come out that way. You know,

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Speaker 2: He's not using to force the ground while the ball's

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Speaker 1: So I want to talk Boon Knicks. He right now

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Speaker 1: is playing so well on third down. So I always

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Speaker 1: thought of third down as a quarterback down. Maybe it's

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Speaker 1: a coaches down. How much of third down success for

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Speaker 1: bon Knicks is Sean Sean Payton? How much is bow?

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Speaker 1: How much is personnel? How do you view third down?

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Speaker 2: Hugely on both sides as far as what bo Knicks

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Speaker 2: is at God given abilities are and what coach Sean.

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Speaker 3: Payton brings the table.

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Speaker 2: So you compare, you know, or you combine a great

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Speaker 3: And move the chains with his feet's that's.

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Speaker 2: A really rare, unique and rare combination that they have

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Daniel Jones story is fascinating. So I've seen

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Speaker 1: Baker and Sam Darnold reinvent themselves and Daniel Jones. I'm

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Speaker 1: the first to admit I just didn't see it. I

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Speaker 1: thought he was kind of stiff. I didn't think he

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Speaker 1: Indian I'm like, Oh, You've got to sign him to

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Speaker 1: an extension. This is a big, strong, athletic guy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, hey, I missed on that did Are you

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Speaker 1: surprised they're the number one most efficient offense in the

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Speaker 3: Oh? I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I mean I've always liked his game. I wasn't quite

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Speaker 3: Out of Duke.

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Speaker 2: The athletic ability is there. I mean he showed it

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Speaker 2: time and time again in New York. Now having protection

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Speaker 2: They were a mess up front in New York his

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Speaker 2: a mess up front. But you give him a solid

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Speaker 3: A great young play caller. I really like this setup

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Speaker 2: You know, the only thing that you know you don't

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Speaker 2: love about his game is he doesn't have just an

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Speaker 2: overpowering arm. You know, a ton of veloscity on the football,

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Speaker 2: but he doesn't need it. I think he's always done

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Speaker 2: a good job moving and extending plays.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you you.

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Speaker 2: Know some of the players plays you think back because

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Speaker 2: long fifty yard or sixty yard run where he tripped in.

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Speaker 3: The open field. You know that got.

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Speaker 2: Overhyped and overplayed, but the guy still took off for

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Speaker 2: fifty all the time in New York. He was always

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Speaker 2: making plays with the Lakes. So the athletic ability is there.

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Speaker 2: You give him, you know, the running game and the

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Speaker 2: offensive line play that he's had along with you know,

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Speaker 3: It's a great recipe for him and Andy for sure.

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Speaker 4: So it's weird it happens.

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Speaker 1: I see it in the NBA sometimes where a really

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Speaker 1: good player leaves, but the chemistry and the ball movement improves,

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Speaker 1: and maybe it's a guy that is you know, you

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Speaker 1: bring in a guy that's less talented, but he's he's

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Speaker 1: a little better teammate, more willing passer. In the NFL,

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Speaker 1: AJ Brown doesn't play, Philadelphia explodes, and I'm like, I

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Speaker 1: I remember when the Cowboys got rid of Dez Bryant

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Speaker 1: Dak was better. He didn't wake up in the morning

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Speaker 1: I do feel like Jalen Hurts is better when he's

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Speaker 1: just sprinkling the infield. When he's throwing, he can do RPOs,

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Speaker 1: he can do toush push. And I watched a J

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Speaker 1: he would fit with Rabel in New England. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: watching yesterday without him, maybe this great athlete, they all

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Speaker 1: you ever play with a team that moved off a

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Speaker 1: great athlete and actually the team was a bit more functional.

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Speaker 3: Oh, like you said, we see it all the time.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: AJ Brown's heavy on Jalen hirts shoulders, and you sensed

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Speaker 2: it for the first six weeks of the season, you know,

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Speaker 2: and then you saw him just explode. And like you're saying,

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Speaker 2: he was just playing more fluid more, He's playing quicker.

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Speaker 2: When you have, you know, an ego or you know,

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Speaker 2: the drama that comes with somebody like like Aj that

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Speaker 2: he's brought into that locker room and really into that

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Speaker 2: those plays are being installed in meetings, as you're then

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Speaker 2: going out on the field and replicating them, and then

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Speaker 2: you're going back inside the meetings and watching those.

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Speaker 3: Film filmed practice plays.

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Speaker 2: In Jalen's mind when Aj is a part of it,

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Speaker 2: he's always thinking about it and on this play, what

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Speaker 2: if I get this? And how do I get Aj

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Speaker 2: the you know, the ball in this situation. And then

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Speaker 2: do it and you try to keep him into practice

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Speaker 2: and keep his energy level eye and keep him running

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Speaker 2: a hundred, you know, running full speed because you don't

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Speaker 2: want him to run seventy percent. When you do take

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Speaker 3: You know that that weighs on Jalen's shoulders.

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Speaker 2: So I was not surprised at all to see the

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Speaker 2: success they had, and I wouldn't be all that surprised

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Speaker 2: if AJ wasn't on that team for very much longer.

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Speaker 1: How's your son doing, how's your high school team doing?

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Speaker 3: We're doing good, We're doing good.

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Speaker 2: Santa Margarita one a big game this last weekend against

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Speaker 2: Orange Lutheran.

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Speaker 3: We finish out the regular season.

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Speaker 2: This Friday night on Halloween and then onto the playoffs.

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Speaker 3: Are you on?

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Speaker 4: Are you one of those coaches on the head.

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Speaker 2: Set yelling and screaming, and uh yeah, I'm always yelling.

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Speaker 3: I'm always screaming.

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Speaker 2: I'm not cussing, but I'm on the headset and I'm

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Speaker 2: in the reps here NonStop, you know, and and you know,

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Speaker 2: critiquing their game more than I'm critiquing my own players game.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm that guy yelling and screaming on the

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Speaker 3: headset for sure.

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Speaker 1: My kind of coach. Carson Palmer, great, seeing you, my man.

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, he does not age Santa Margarita, his team,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I got my first technical of my

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Speaker 1: Away all sorts of things happening. Josh Pate, great voice

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Speaker 1: in college football. Before the end of the show, here's

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Speaker 1: j Mack with the news.

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Speaker 4: Turn on the news.

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Speaker 7: This is the Herdline News.

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Speaker 5: Let's start with one of your guys. He was my

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Speaker 5: guy first. But Drake May of the New England Patriots. Hey, man,

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Speaker 5: I love the Patriots this week, easy, no sweat winner,

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Speaker 5: crushing the hapless Cleveland Browns. May through for two eighty

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Speaker 6: I think zero trips to the blue tent, which is something.

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Speaker 5: To watch because these young quarterbacks keep getting hurt. Drake

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Speaker 5: May loves it when the fans shower him with praise.

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Speaker 4: I didn't hear it.

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Speaker 9: The guys were making fun of me about my slide

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Speaker 3: That was pretty cool.

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Speaker 9: But I know the fans have been awesome. Like I said,

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Speaker 5: So Colin.

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Speaker 4: That dude is good.

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Speaker 6: Here is he's really good. Eight games in.

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Speaker 5: Who is the most unlikely leader in the AFC Division.

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Speaker 5: You've got the Patriots, You've got the Colts, and you

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Speaker 5: got the Broncos. Nobody had that eight weeks and zero

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Speaker 1: I think New England's the most surprising, simply because you

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's this kid throws such a pretty ball

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Speaker 4: Got he throwed. The ball just looks great. He he's

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Speaker 1: He looks like a logo. Like the ball just comes out.

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Speaker 1: It's the high point. It's accurate, it's got velocity. He's

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Speaker 5: All right, and now that we're done glazing, let's just

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Speaker 5: keep it real. Okay, these are the last three teams

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Speaker 5: the Tennessee Titans, who are an abomination currently, and the

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Speaker 6: So they're beating up on the dregs and I do

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Speaker 4: Of the league.

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Speaker 5: That being said. Next up is the Atlanta Falcons. If

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Speaker 5: it's Kirk Cousins, you could give Rabel the victory there.

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Speaker 5: If it's Pennix and maybe it's interesting, then it's Tampa,

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Speaker 5: then the hapless Jets, then Joe Flacco. I'm just guys,

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Speaker 5: if you bet the Patriots to have the number one

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Speaker 6: This team is pretty good, man. They're well rounded.

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Speaker 1: Colin Nope, they don't have a ton of star power.

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Speaker 1: They could use I think, you know, an edge of receiver,

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Speaker 4: But overall, good team.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, very very good.

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Speaker 5: Let's move on to tonight's game Monday Night Football, though

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Speaker 5: Washington Commanders getting eleven oh sorry, ten and a half.

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Speaker 5: Now in Arrowhead, I've seen some numbers that Mahomes has

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Speaker 5: That kind of lost it for him. Overall, though the

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Speaker 5: Chiefs are rolling the last four weeks. My guy for

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Speaker 5: Rashi Rice is on fire. Here's OC Matt Nage talking

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Speaker 10: Keep the execution at a high right now, which it is.

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Speaker 10: The execution by these players has been great. Protect the football.

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Speaker 10: we score touchdowns.

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Speaker 3: We're always going to be in good shape.

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Speaker 10: And then never never get relaxed with the details. This

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Speaker 10: you're doing everything the right way, all of a sudden,

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Speaker 10: one little detail can hurt you. So we're I think

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Speaker 10: our coaching staff coach read all the guys, the players,

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Speaker 1: When's that When when's that guy going to get a

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Speaker 5: To never So let's just big, big news, well not

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Speaker 5: huge news. The left tackle that we talked about mysteriously

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Speaker 5: personal matter.

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Speaker 6: He's missing.

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Speaker 5: So the left tackles out their guard Tray Smith, who's

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Speaker 5: very good. He is listed as doubtful again. I don't

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Speaker 5: know what chicanery is going on with the chief injury report.

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Speaker 5: Two offensive linemen down ain't great against the Washington defensive

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Speaker 5: front with Payne kin Law like, I'm just there's a

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Speaker 5: only play here is taking if you can get eleven great,

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Speaker 5: ten and a half is not as good.

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Speaker 6: Obviously, do you have a.

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Speaker 1: Side here, Well, I didn't know Trey Smith was out,

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Speaker 1: but I would take Kansas City at home with Mariota

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Speaker 5: So I revenge spot from Mariota against Andy Reid and

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Speaker 5: the game. Yeah, if you want a fun player prop

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Speaker 5: Deebo Samuel first touchdown. I do think Washington kicks in

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Speaker 1: Tony jmck with the news, Well that's the news and

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Speaker 7: The herd Line news.

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Speaker 1: Highlight of today show has to be my Laker trade

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Speaker 1: proposal with Austin Reeves.

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Speaker 4: Will we agree on that?

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Speaker 1: And the Justin Herbert I made an exception. I will

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Speaker 1: allow Justin Herbert it was an off day to wear

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Speaker 1: his hat on backwards.

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Speaker 3: I made.

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Speaker 1: It's an executive decision. I am a romantic.

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Speaker 4: Shame on me.

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Speaker 1: But he's got his, you know, a new companion, and

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Speaker 1: on the backward hat. Next up one of the great

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Speaker 1: voices young voices of college football, Josh Pate, Lane Kiffen Lsu.

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Speaker 4: What do we make of Indiana? Whoopie? The Hoosiers are

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Speaker 4: a power.

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Speaker 3: It's the Hurd.

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Speaker 7: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays

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Speaker 7: and newone Eastern non a em Pacific on Fox Sports

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Speaker 7: Radio FS one and the iHeartRadio app.

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Speaker 5: Tonight, it's Game three of the World Series as scene

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Speaker 5: shifts to la or Vlad Junior and the Blue.

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Speaker 6: Jays take on Show Ayotani and the Dodgers. Game three

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Speaker 6: of the World Series coverage.

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Speaker 5: Begins tonight at seven pm Eastern four pm Pacific on Fox.

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Speaker 1: By the way, tip of the cap to our graphics

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Speaker 1: department or whoever is making those ghosts uppear on the screen,

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Speaker 4: Way to go, That is awesome.

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Speaker 1: His name is Josh Pate, and I think he's the

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Speaker 1: best young voice in college football hands down. The Josh

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Speaker 1: so I want to bring him in today. He really

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Speaker 1: he did. I joked about this last night. The Hillary

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Speaker 4: Josh, it didn't. Where did it go wrong?

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Speaker 3: All right? So I was telling someone this this morning.

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Speaker 3: I grew up in the Deep South.

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Speaker 11: We are used to people from the North coming in

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Speaker 11: had clearly gone through that wringer before he took the

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Speaker 11: think that's where the you know, the fit didn't happen.

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Speaker 11: That's not what mattered. If he would have won, they

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Speaker 11: If he won, he would have fit and the entirety

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Speaker 11: Brian Kelly never understood how to harness Louisiana. That sounds

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Speaker 1: gotta roll your sleeves up.

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Speaker 4: So I got to ask you.

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Speaker 1: Penn State's got an opening, Florida's got an opening, LSU's

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Speaker 1: got an opening. I've been to Gainesville half a dozen times.

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Speaker 1: I think it's a great college town. Would I would

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Speaker 1: take Florida. LSU's almost its own country, it's its own vibe.

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Speaker 1: Penn State's good. But again, I get in the state

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Speaker 1: of Florida. You're an expert of this stuff. If I

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Speaker 1: line those up and I'm Lane Keffen, let's say, and

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Speaker 1: he's going to make the playoffs at all, miss what's

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Speaker 1: viewed in the sport is the best of those three.

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Speaker 11: There are a lot of people in the sport that

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Speaker 11: think the ls used the best job in college football.

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Speaker 11: So if you take generic college football coach, or take

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Speaker 11: them all in, pour them in a blender and pour

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Speaker 11: it out, they would say LSU, Florida, Penn State in

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Speaker 11: that order.

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Speaker 3: But you and I have talked about this before.

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Speaker 4: You know, as well as I do.

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Speaker 11: There are some candidates out there that have very, very

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Speaker 11: peculiar or maybe not peculiar, but very specific ties or

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Speaker 11: draws or things they value. It could be anything from

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Speaker 11: I want to live close to the beach too, I

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Speaker 11: played in and grew up in the Midwest, to my

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Speaker 11: wife has family in eastern Pennsylvania and I'd love for

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Speaker 11: her to be close to them. That heavily impacts which

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Speaker 11: job you take. Like if you're Kiffin, I don't particularly

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Speaker 11: feel like he's a puzzle piece fit in Pennsylvania. I

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Speaker 11: think you'd work Wonders in Gainesville. I think you'd fit

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Speaker 11: great in Baton Rouge. And on the topic of Lane,

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Speaker 11: I got to be real with you, man. Everybody's got

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Speaker 11: an opinion on this, and I do as well. Like

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Speaker 11: if I had to lean one way, I'd say fifty

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Speaker 11: five to forty five. I think he'll leave if he's

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Speaker 11: offered one of these jobs. But you've had big offers

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Speaker 11: in front of you in life. Okay, so think about this.

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Speaker 11: You're at ESPN's It's one thing to float the concept

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Speaker 11: of going to Fox or going a political router, whatever.

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Speaker 11: It's another thing when you get the call calling the

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Speaker 11: offers on the table. It's time to discuss, it's time

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Speaker 11: to decide yes or no. That's when you really find

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Speaker 11: out where your heart is. I'm gonna be real with you.

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Speaker 11: I don't even think Lane Kiffin's arrived at that spot yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean they're winning, it's his offense. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: make the playoffs, so there's no hurry. By the way, Okay,

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Speaker 1: explain to a casual fan. They look at Indiana and

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Speaker 1: they're like, what in the world is now? We know

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Speaker 1: Ohio State's great, Texas A and M gets, you know, great recruits.

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Speaker 1: Explain Indiana blowing out everybody and looking like, I mean,

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Speaker 1: if they played Ohio State today, is in a one

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Speaker 1: point spread? I explain Indiana football.

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Speaker 11: I have my dad explain Florida State football pre Bobby

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Speaker 11: Bowden to me fifty times when I was growing up,

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Speaker 11: because I grew up in the era where Florida State

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Speaker 11: was already a powerhouse. He had to explain to me. No,

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Speaker 11: once upon a time, they were like a map dot

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Speaker 11: on the college football landscape, and this guy came in

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Speaker 11: there and he harnessed what Florida State could be. But

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Speaker 11: even then, what he was doing was getting a bunch

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Speaker 11: of kids from Florida. That's not even what SE's doing.

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Speaker 11: I think what he did do is he sort of

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Speaker 11: punted the ant bed, as me Maa would say, and

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Speaker 11: out from that ant bed came a whole lot of money.

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Speaker 11: And it turns out Indiana's always had a staggering resource

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Speaker 11: pool to invest in college football. Now, look, I immersed myself

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Speaker 11: in this stuff, and I'd be lying if I told

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Speaker 11: you this wasn't a surprise to me.

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Speaker 3: As well.

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Speaker 11: What I have found hilarious is everyone wants an explainer.

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Speaker 3: I do too.

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Speaker 11: Sometimes a guy is just a perfect fit at the

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Speaker 11: perfect place, at the perfect time.

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Speaker 4: Now a lot of.

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Speaker 11: People admit that about Kurt Signetti.

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Speaker 4: They say, oh, what a magic job he's pulled off there.

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Speaker 11: But then that same person, in the very next breath,

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Speaker 11: when it comes coaching search time, says, all right, where's.

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Speaker 3: The next Signetti?

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Speaker 11: Maybe there's not one, you know, maybe this really was

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Speaker 11: just an example of a guy who was ready to jump,

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Speaker 11: and he was at James Madison took a lot of

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Speaker 11: his players with him.

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Speaker 3: But that was last year.

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Speaker 11: They had to reportal again this year, and you know

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Speaker 11: how bad it makes people look at major programs when

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Speaker 11: he hit with the quarterback he brought with him, But

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Speaker 11: then he went and got Mendoza at Cow. Meanwhile I

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Speaker 11: got Auburn wasting away with Jackson Arnold. I got half

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Speaker 11: a dozen other examples of places that portaled and failed.

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Speaker 11: And Kurt Signetti's just sitting over there looking pissed off

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Speaker 11: that he's only up by fifty.

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Speaker 4: It's the craziest thing.

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Speaker 7: In the world.

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Speaker 1: It is in my lifetime, I'd say it's crazy. Okay,

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Speaker 1: there's a bunch of college quarterbacks. I watched Tya Simpson

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Speaker 1: again this weekend. I just want to see I want

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Speaker 1: to see. Wow, he's good. We got a minute and

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Speaker 1: a half left. If I said one of them is

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Speaker 1: going to be a number one pick a month ago,

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Speaker 1: I thought it was Dante Moore, ty Simpson, what do

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Speaker 1: you make? Is it the kid at South Carolina who's

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Speaker 1: a hyper athletic kid, who could the Rams could take

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Speaker 1: him and sit him behind Stafford for a year. Give

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Speaker 1: me the college quarterback that you think makes a Sunday player,

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Speaker 1: good Sunday place.

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Speaker 11: Okay, I would be with you on Lenora Sellers. So

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Speaker 11: let me put him in a compartment over here. The

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Speaker 11: one thing I'll say about Ty is something that's bitten

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Speaker 11: a lot of these guys that were hyped in the preseason,

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Speaker 11: like Kate Club, Nick Clemson or Garrettnusmeyer, is they don't

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Speaker 11: have complimentary ground games and too much has been put

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Speaker 11: on their shoulders and it's just imploded. Ty Simpson's complimentary

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Speaker 11: ground game is not there. Bama's in like the one

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Speaker 11: hundreds in traditional rushing numbers this year. What stood out

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Speaker 11: to me, and this is a testament to him and

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Speaker 11: Ryan Grubb and Kaitlin de Bor is they've still been

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Speaker 11: able to scale their offense on his crowbar at Alabama

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Speaker 11: right now. Georgia did in the second half, but that

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Speaker 11: was after Bama already got out to a big lead

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Speaker 11: because they dominated the first half. I think that actually

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Speaker 11: speaks to the credit of Ty Simpson. And last week

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Speaker 11: I don't think that was that tough.

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Speaker 3: To see coming. Man.

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Speaker 11: That's fifth straight up week in a row on the road,

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Speaker 11: desperation mode for South Carolina. They go into a buy

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Speaker 11: now they got four games, then maybe a trip to Atlanta.

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Speaker 11: I think you may see him play his best ball

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Speaker 11: down the stretch.

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Speaker 1: Josh Pate his college football shows on YouTube. Great Voice great,

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Speaker 1: best young voice in college football.

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Speaker 4: I have gray hair.

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Speaker 1: Everybody's young to me. But Josh is a rising of Sandegre.

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Speaker 1: You go, look at it's whatever. That's beautiful, great scene

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Speaker 1: of man.

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Speaker 3: Great senior collin.

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Speaker 1: All right, Josh Pate remember that name, covering college football

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Speaker 1: for fifteen years and just crushes it every time I

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Speaker 1: talk to him. Yeah, you know, he heard the same

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Speaker 1: thing I did on Brian Kelly. I talked to a

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Speaker 1: coach last year and he's like, man, it's eighty hours

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Speaker 1: the first two years here in a program. It's eighty

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Speaker 1: hours a week. He's like, Brian wants the golf. He'll

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Speaker 1: give you fifty five if you want to roll that.

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Speaker 1: And I don't blame him. I don't blame him. I

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Speaker 1: like golf way more now than I did ten years ago. Look,

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Speaker 1: I get it.

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Speaker 4: I'm not good at it. I'm just saying.

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Speaker 3: I like it.

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Speaker 4: Uh And it's uh So there you go.

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Speaker 1: I did not ask a usc question, providing once again

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Speaker 1: an example of the kind of journalism this show employees

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Speaker 1: on a regular basis. J Mac, Yeah, I know everybody

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Speaker 1: likes Washington to night. That's not how I'm gonna roll.

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Speaker 6: Well, we don't like Washington. I like the eleven points.

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Speaker 4: How did you do in your picks?

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Speaker 5: It was great four and one in the contest. I'm listen,

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Speaker 5: I'm not as hot as you, but I've had a

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Speaker 5: good three week stretch here, starting to see the ball

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Speaker 5: a little more clear off the pitcher's fingers.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, this week was a big favorite weekend.

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Speaker 1: I've already seen the early numbers. A couple of dogs.

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Speaker 5: Well, the numbers are inflated big time. There's a lot

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Speaker 5: to chew on here coming up this week. How about

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Speaker 5: the Rams? They are favored by a lot.

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Speaker 4: Rams.

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Speaker 1: Let's say it again, breaking news Rams. We predicted this

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Speaker 1: after that Philly loss when they couldn't stop aj Brown.

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Speaker 1: Rams went out to the Titans, picked up a former

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Speaker 1: second round pick corner, maybe got a little size to him,

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Speaker 1: depending on how that corner plays. They give up a

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Speaker 1: fifth or a sixth round pick. They've got two fives,

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Speaker 1: two six in April and two ones. So they're like,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you a fifth or a sixth. If he plays,

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Speaker 1: we'll give you a fifth. So the Rams trading deadline

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Speaker 1: is coming up. The Rams made the move we predicted.

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Speaker 1: I want to watch New England I also want to

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Speaker 1: keep keep your eye on New England. Keep your eye

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Speaker 1: on the Colts getting an edge rusher, keep your eye

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Speaker 1: on these super Bowl level teams. Rams Colts, New England

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Speaker 1: is maybe not not quite there yet, but would New

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Speaker 1: England make a move on a sideline receiver?

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Speaker 6: Sneaky interesting game coming up. You mentioned the Colts Colts

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Speaker 6: at Steelers next week. I'm just telling you this.

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh is desperate, and I know Aaron Rodgers always been good.

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Speaker 3: Jay.

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Speaker 5: They were one for ten on third down last night,

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Speaker 5: and I'm fairly certain the one conversion was via penalty

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Speaker 5: in the secondary. So Aaron Rodgers has.

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Speaker 4: Not been great.

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Speaker 6: Colin, let's be real.

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Speaker 1: Despite the ghosts you see on the screen, do not

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Speaker 1: be afraid to watch Game three of the World Series

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Speaker 1: on Fox tonight