Speaker 1: Hi guys, this is Teddy Mellencamp and I'm joined by
Speaker 1: my friend Emily Simpson for our new spin off show
Speaker 1: Popping Off, where we are digging deep on this season
Speaker 1: of Banner Pump Rules. Hi guys, welcome to another episode
Speaker 1: of Popping Off with myself, Teddy Mellencamp and and Emily Simpson.
Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us.
Speaker 1: We are so excited because today we have Katie Maloney on.
Speaker 1: Not only has she been so good this season and
Speaker 1: brought us so much entertainment, we just saw yesterday that
Speaker 1: she just did a deal with Chili's, shaking up the
Speaker 1: popular espresso martini and putting its own spin on the cocktails,
Speaker 1: swapping vodka for Reposodo tequila and ram to elevate the
Speaker 1: drink's flavors. I was like wondering why we didn't have
Speaker 1: one for today's pod.
Speaker 2: I know someone failed us there.
Speaker 1: We would have been we could have.
Speaker 3: Really gotten the juice so much to give me tequila
Speaker 3: before I started asking questions, Yeah we at nine am.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's yeah right, I'm at a high yoga.
Speaker 1: I'll have it with my Starbucks. I would have been fine.
Speaker 1: I would have been like, but to help introduce its
Speaker 1: Espresso Martini's. Chili's partnered with beloved reality star Ghina sche
Speaker 1: and Katie Maloni, who know a thing or two about cocktails.
Speaker 1: I thought the ads for it were super funny and cute.
Speaker 1: While Sheena, a former Chili's waitress, new guests would enjoy
Speaker 1: sipping on an espresso martini just as much as she does.
Speaker 1: Katie brought the tequila expertise. Eli television and cocktail lovers
Speaker 1: can find Chili's Espresso Martini and select restaurants nation wide.
Speaker 1: Now this started April fifteenth. I've got a Chili's right
Speaker 1: down the street.
Speaker 2: Can you I do too? I have a chili right
Speaker 2: down the streets.
Speaker 1: So you know what. I was also thinking this was
Speaker 1: a missed opportunity for Gina. Wasn't she at Chili's? Or
Speaker 1: did I make that up? No?
Speaker 3: Okay, two does bring up Chili and Gina? You were
Speaker 3: so shy, shay.
Speaker 4: No.
Speaker 1: People on Twitter like, stay crappy stuff about her that
Speaker 1: ass to do at chili Oh, she didn't actually work
Speaker 1: there as a teenager.
Speaker 3: No, no, now you need to apologize.
Speaker 1: Actually, I actually promise I thought that she worked at
Speaker 1: Chili's as a young kid and that's where that joke
Speaker 1: came from. I wouldn't have oh, Gina in this moment.
Speaker 1: I really did believe you once worked at Chili's, which
Speaker 1: I used to work at the local pizza place near
Speaker 1: my place that did not, unfortunately serve these espresso martini's.
Speaker 3: But she she actually was a flight attendant and she's
Speaker 3: very worldly.
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm not that worried.
Speaker 1: I'm not wordly or I'm not worried where you're worthy.
Speaker 1: I'm wordy, but there's no ality, there's no l So
Speaker 1: now we are having.
Speaker 3: Tequila Katie joining us. Katie, how did you get that nickname?
Speaker 3: What happens when you're Tequila Katie? Is that like your
Speaker 3: alter ego a little bit?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I mean it's been so many years. I think it
Speaker 4: was just like, you know, a little too much tequila.
Speaker 1: And I get it.
Speaker 3: I get it because I feel like there's a Tequila Emily, absolutely,
Speaker 3: like there's like the reasonable rational attorney Emily, and then
Speaker 3: I do some shots at tequila and I'm ready to
Speaker 3: just put everybody up. So I wish I could blame
Speaker 3: tequila for any of my behavior, but just so okay,
Speaker 3: it could be a Starbucks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Okay, get to ease you kind of end
Speaker 1: the questions. The first thing that we wanted to ask
Speaker 1: about was going into season eleven, what was the vibe like,
Speaker 1: because there was so much talk that the season prior,
Speaker 1: you guys were going to be in trouble and there
Speaker 1: was going to be issues and like scandaval was needed
Speaker 1: in order to keep ban of pump rules going. Do
Speaker 1: you believe any of that?
Speaker 4: No, I don't. I don't. I don't believe. I don't
Speaker 4: believe that necessarily. No. I think there's always something that's
Speaker 4: gonna pop off or gonna happen. I think every year
Speaker 4: there's like there's an element of like, well, how do
Speaker 4: we you know, like what's gonna happen next? Or you know,
Speaker 4: like there's like this sort of like come down from
Speaker 4: the previous season, and like everyone just is trying to
Speaker 4: like let the dust set a little bit and then
Speaker 4: we're like, all right, well, like there's there's nothing left
Speaker 4: in us possible, you know. But I mean obviously last
Speaker 4: season and what happened after the fact was just completely
Speaker 4: out there. I think this season we were just kind
Speaker 4: of there was just there wasn't enough life lived. I think, yeah,
Speaker 4: I think there was just a lot of fractures that
Speaker 4: it was just kind of like, Okay, well, how do
Speaker 4: we go into this, how do we be around each
Speaker 4: other in a way that feels natural or normal? That
Speaker 4: was more that attitude, I think.
Speaker 1: And were you guys going into it expecting that Rachel
Speaker 1: was going to Georgiurn or were you shocked that she didn't.
Speaker 4: We had no idea. No one had heard from her,
Speaker 4: talk to her, like, we didn't really know what she
Speaker 4: was doing or where she was. There was a lot
Speaker 4: of rumors we had heard that potentially she might We
Speaker 4: know that she talked to producers a little bit, but
Speaker 4: no one really knew what her plans were. So ultimately,
Speaker 4: when she decided not to, it was just kind of like,
Speaker 4: all right, well that's her choice. She's got to do
Speaker 4: what's best for herself. But yeah, I don't think anyone
Speaker 4: really knew what was going to happen.
Speaker 3: What would you have wanted to happen? I mean, if
Speaker 3: you had the choice, what do you think and taking
Speaker 3: emotions out of it, maybe from a logical standpoint or
Speaker 3: a show standpoint, do you think it would have been
Speaker 3: better for her to film or not film?
Speaker 4: I mean, I think in a lot of weird, messed
Speaker 4: up ways. You know. It it forces conversations, it forces
Speaker 4: uh closure or not. You know, sometimes you always get
Speaker 4: the closure. But I think, I mean, I understand from
Speaker 4: a mental health perspective, not wanting to put yourself in
Speaker 4: those positions or put yourself in the environment that you
Speaker 4: don't feels good for you. But yeah, given I.
Speaker 1: Was going to say, did you go on Instagram today?
Speaker 2: By chance? What's on Instagram? I didn't. What's on Instagram?
Speaker 1: She has just been eaten alive about discussing the show,
Speaker 1: showing clips of the show, then showing clips to the interview.
Speaker 1: And I was talking to Emily about this, like, if
Speaker 1: you have this yesterday, Yeah, if you really want to
Speaker 1: clear your mental health, why are you throwing it all
Speaker 1: over social media?
Speaker 4: Well, I mean that's that's kind of the thing. If
Speaker 4: she was really just going to completely just fade away
Speaker 4: and just want nothing to do with it and not
Speaker 4: come back into you know, the scene at all, I
Speaker 4: get that. But the fact that there's you know, podcasts
Speaker 4: and recaps and constantly just revisiting everything that's happened, I think, yeah,
Speaker 4: you should just come back to the show.
Speaker 3: And well, it's it's almost unfair that she does it
Speaker 3: from a safe space, Like she inserts herself into the
Speaker 3: show and comments on the show, but she does it
Speaker 3: from behind a screen, you know, from a safe podcast perspective.
Speaker 2: Do you see it like that? That's kind of how
Speaker 2: I view it.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, I don't necessarily see it from like
Speaker 4: a safe space, but I just I see it from
Speaker 4: a way that it's just kind of like, ah, it's
Speaker 4: a bit cowardly.
Speaker 2: No, I wouldn't disagree with that.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean I just think I just think she
Speaker 4: should have just came and said what she had to say,
Speaker 4: talk to the people she needed to talk to. I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't think she should. I don't think she would
Speaker 4: have had to come back and fully immersed herself, but
Speaker 4: at least just so what she had to say. I
Speaker 4: don't know, I mean at this I mean, just at
Speaker 4: this point we're given anything that's gone down me as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, can I talk. Both of you guys are big
Speaker 1: dog lovers. Of course I love dogs as well, and
Speaker 1: something that I do and I may get kind of
Speaker 1: in trouble for saying this, but when it comes to
Speaker 1: pets or it comes to dogs, I feel like there
Speaker 1: is something where people that realize they're no longer in
Speaker 1: a mental situation where they can properly take care of
Speaker 1: their animal, they are so scared to properly re homee
Speaker 1: them or properly admit that they are not capable of
Speaker 1: doing it. Then that's when we hear these stories that
Speaker 1: then played out on vander Pump Rules or it played
Speaker 1: out on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, Like what do
Speaker 1: you guys think needs to happen if you have a
Speaker 1: dog and you can't take care of it? And I
Speaker 1: just feel like people just because they're scared, and then
Speaker 1: what they end up doing is so much worse than
Speaker 1: what they could have done.
Speaker 2: I don't know, it doesn't even make sense to me.
Speaker 3: My dog is literally right next to me right now,
Speaker 3: you know, he likes to jump on me while I'm
Speaker 3: doing this.
Speaker 2: But I just can't.
Speaker 3: Fathom having an animal and not and if there was
Speaker 3: some reason I couldn't take care of it, I would
Speaker 3: make sure that, like someone in my family took it,
Speaker 3: or a friend or I don't know.
Speaker 2: I just can't imagine the.
Speaker 3: Whole just dropping it off and not knowing what happens
Speaker 3: Like that would never happen in my world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we all have those people in our
Speaker 4: lives that care about our animals as much as we
Speaker 4: we do, and that they would know what to do
Speaker 4: more than we could in that moment. I don't. I
Speaker 4: don't think that I would ever resort to that. I
Speaker 4: think I think I would rather they go live with,
Speaker 4: you know, or at least have someone that I know
Speaker 4: and trust cares for them, that you know, really care you,
Speaker 4: that just knows what to do. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean, do you think that. Do
Speaker 1: you think that Graham or Hippie was an attempt by
Speaker 1: LVP to get Rachel back on the show.
Speaker 4: I don't think so.
Speaker 2: You don't think so.
Speaker 4: I think I think it was already I don't think
Speaker 4: that was going to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, She's like that it was already too far gone.
Speaker 1: I mean, I had two French bulldogs and they were amazing.
Speaker 1: But my little brother lives on a farm, and he
Speaker 1: was like, I've always wanted these dogs. I love them.
Speaker 1: I think I could give them a better life, and
Speaker 1: they are his best friends. They lived like he sends
Speaker 1: me pictures every day. And it was a situation where
Speaker 1: I was like, you know what, he would do a
Speaker 1: better job than I'm doing. And I feel okay with
Speaker 1: saying that. Has Hippie seemed like a problematic animal in
Speaker 1: your experience since he's been back.
Speaker 4: Since he's been back, no, I mean, I think he's
Speaker 4: adjusting really well. From what the last update I got
Speaker 4: from James and Ali's that now, like with the cats,
Speaker 4: he's doing really well. Because I was at first like
Speaker 4: that was kind of concerned. I had to keep them separate.
Speaker 4: But now he's acclimated really well to being on the
Speaker 4: cats and everything. So I mean, things are going well.
Speaker 1: So and can you give us a little tea on
Speaker 1: the sandwiches something about her? Because we we had like
Speaker 1: people on the ground driving by, We're like, what.
Speaker 2: Is going on?
Speaker 1: Where are the sandwiches? Why?
Speaker 3: Actually, actually, Katie, we're hoping that you do another sandwich
Speaker 3: tasting and you invite us.
Speaker 2: That's really what we're hoping for.
Speaker 4: It's just gonna be sandwich tasting. That's really Yeah.
Speaker 3: I feel like that's a good thing. You could just
Speaker 3: charge for tickets and it's it'll be a thing.
Speaker 4: I know, I know. I keep seeing I see those
Speaker 4: same things of people driving by. They're like, it's empty.
Speaker 4: Nothing's going to be here. It's empty, and I'm just like,
Speaker 4: that's not it. Yeah, i mean obviously if it was,
Speaker 4: if it was just solely up to us and in
Speaker 4: our hands, we would have opened by now. But it's
Speaker 4: it's not easy, and there's a lot of work that
Speaker 4: you have to do and permits, and it's not just
Speaker 4: like going and like filing an application. It's you know,
Speaker 4: you have to file application, and a lot of it
Speaker 4: involves the fire department and and then this department, and
Speaker 4: that's and getting them to come out and do the
Speaker 4: proper inspections takes a lot of time. And then there's
Speaker 4: then if you have to correct anything, then that takes time.
Speaker 4: And sometimes it's ordering new equipment or new parts, and
Speaker 4: so it's just a lot of waiting game and just
Speaker 4: time that it takes.
Speaker 3: But we're now are you paying rent? Are you paying
Speaker 3: rent monthly? So every month and it's not open, you're
Speaker 3: still paying the rent.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you know. But now now that we have
Speaker 4: everything we need, it's just now we're like in our
Speaker 4: hiring and training phase and just the final like touches
Speaker 4: on everything. So we're like really in the home stretch.
Speaker 3: Now, do you have an anticipated opening date. Yes, well
Speaker 3: that's good, that's good. We hope you have a grand
Speaker 3: opening with a sandwich tasting, and we hope we get
Speaker 3: invited to it.
Speaker 4: It won't be a tasting, it'll just be full on sandwich.
Speaker 1: We'll buy some sandwiches. Well, you know, we'll splurge on
Speaker 1: some sandwiches. We heard a rumor that there is going
Speaker 1: to be a ghost can on Uber Eats, which is
Speaker 1: actually ideal for me because I don't like going anywhere.
Speaker 1: Is that actually happening another room.
Speaker 4: Where I don't know where it came from? You know,
Speaker 4: I know a lot of people do that, but you know,
Speaker 4: I think that would just be very inconsistent because it
Speaker 4: would be I saw something it was going to be
Speaker 4: ghost kitchens across the country and I'm like, that wouldn't work.
Speaker 1: Ah, and not like a subway where it's just like.
Speaker 4: No offense.
Speaker 1: But I mean, like, you know, we're well, you're.
Speaker 3: Trying to make an elevated sandwich that's like a gourmet sandwich,
Speaker 3: So it's not like something that would be a franchise,
Speaker 3: is what you're saying.
Speaker 4: Correct?
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you mean you're not going to blow sandwich
Speaker 1: smell from the outer edges of something about her. So
Speaker 1: when people walk by, they get an overwhelming subway smell.
Speaker 4: Hole cuts just right down saw.
Speaker 1: Me and a lot of people. They want to know
Speaker 1: details about Penny.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to No, okay, but it's Penny still there.
Speaker 4: No, we're not working with Penny any longer.
Speaker 1: I kind of could feel that riding on the wall.
Speaker 1: I feel like Penny was trying to take control in
Speaker 1: the LA place, you know.
Speaker 4: I Mean we loved like working with Penny, and Penny
Speaker 4: was great, but it just ultimately wasn't the right fit.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Do you think Penny just wanted to be on television?
Speaker 4: I bet he's a great on TV.
Speaker 1: What do you think caused you and Ariana to get
Speaker 1: so close after scandabal Did you feel like you could
Speaker 1: relate to her in a different way or just you
Speaker 1: wanted to be there for her in her time of need?
Speaker 2: He like, what exactly do you think?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean there's a lot of things. I think
Speaker 4: I could relate to her in a lot of ways,
Speaker 4: and yeah, and I did want to be there for her.
Speaker 4: I mean it was crushing what she went through. I
Speaker 4: just like my heart like aches for her. I saw
Speaker 4: her just in just complete despair and just what she
Speaker 4: went through and what those you know two put her through,
Speaker 4: just the lying, and and she trusted them so implicitly
Speaker 4: and denied and had their backs when anyone tried to
Speaker 4: say anything otherwise. And so I think she just felt
Speaker 4: like just so betrayed. So I, you know, really wanted
Speaker 4: to be there for her. And and I think also
Speaker 4: we always really did get along, but like our friendship
Speaker 4: couldn't quite get off the ground because you know, Tom
Speaker 4: Sandoval really didn't like me, and he would always tell her,
Speaker 4: you know, be careful of Katie. He really kind of
Speaker 4: drove a wedge between us so once.
Speaker 1: He was really do you think he didn't like you
Speaker 1: because you're smart and you're aware, like out of everybody,
Speaker 1: I feel like you sit back and watch what happens,
Speaker 1: and I think you've gotten your She's like a sniper.
Speaker 1: I love it. I do that too, Like.
Speaker 2: I love compliments herself. I do kind of like that too.
Speaker 4: Yeah, perhaps I just because I don't let him. He
Speaker 4: likes to kind of steamroll and manipulate people. Whether he
Speaker 4: agrees with that's what he does or not. I see
Speaker 4: it as that he wants to be the one, you know,
Speaker 4: calling the shots, making decisions, saying how it's going to be.
Speaker 4: And I don't agree with that, Like we have very
Speaker 4: opposing personalities.
Speaker 1: And yeah, Rachel insinuated that many of you knew about
Speaker 1: this prior.
Speaker 4: Do you?
Speaker 1: Did anybody really know? I mean, I.
Speaker 2: Just I really am trying to wrap my head around this.
Speaker 4: There was I mean, there was suspicious behavior, like I mean,
Speaker 4: and Ali called it out, like they were at the
Speaker 4: Abby dancing and she's like, that's weird, and every like
Speaker 4: everyone said no. So if that was an indication of
Speaker 4: people knowing, she didn't bring that up. I mean there
Speaker 4: were people that knew. She didn't mention that Joe knew.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna ask that did Joe know? Did you?
Speaker 4: I mean, but in that what you're talking about on
Speaker 4: that podcast where she's like listing the names of people
Speaker 4: that knew, she never mentioned Joe and that and Joe
Speaker 4: absolutely one percent. She she just brought up people that
Speaker 4: like she assumed knew because there were.
Speaker 1: Weird Does anyone care what Joe knows and Joe doesn't know?
Speaker 3: Because I surely doubt, come on, Joe's a character.
Speaker 4: I felt like there was something off about the closeness
Speaker 4: of their friendship, and I saw stuff like that was
Speaker 4: going on. But without concrete proof and evidence or something,
Speaker 4: you know, there was there was no way to actually know,
Speaker 4: and they were never going to admit to it, and
Speaker 4: Ariana wasn't going to believe it, so there needed to
Speaker 4: be real, true evidence. Right.
Speaker 3: Do you think, in just an honest, logical opinion, do
Speaker 3: you think Sandi Wal's shown any growth over the past
Speaker 3: year at all?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: Done?
Speaker 2: I mean, I love the honesty.
Speaker 1: I will say that I did do an interview right
Speaker 1: at the beginning with Tamar, actually before Emily and I
Speaker 1: started popping off.
Speaker 2: We did it on chew Tees in a pod and
Speaker 2: I got to.
Speaker 1: Say both the Toms charmed us like we were both
Speaker 1: we both bought it hook line and sinker.
Speaker 4: I believe I told you that you did tell me that.
Speaker 1: But can I blame the tequila because I think we
Speaker 1: were at a fratrone event.
Speaker 4: You know, they are charming like that's you know, and
Speaker 4: it's honestly a bad thing.
Speaker 2: But you know, you know, what do you think about this?
Speaker 3: I saw this on Facebook, like someone wrote this, and
Speaker 3: I thought it was really interesting. They said that Tom
Speaker 3: Schwartz is just as bad as Tom Sandoval, but he
Speaker 3: wraps it in like an endearing type of personality, so
Speaker 3: he gets away with things more like cause he has
Speaker 3: kind of that endearing, quirky personality that you know, he
Speaker 3: doesn't look as guilty or as bad as Sandoval.
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't I don't know if they're necessarily
Speaker 4: as bad or worse, and maybe in varying degrees, you know,
Speaker 4: I think I think Tom Schwartz, you know, he just
Speaker 4: he doesn't really take accountability for things. He doesn't really
Speaker 4: understand where he goes wrong in certain situations, you know,
Speaker 4: and it's a frustrating thing. So he kind of just
Speaker 4: like floats by.
Speaker 2: He's either a puppy dog.
Speaker 1: Or then he'll say things like, I mean, there's things
Speaker 1: he said to you in the past that I can't
Speaker 1: even yeah believe and and you always and then you know,
Speaker 1: we turned around that you were the one to take
Speaker 1: the blame for it when clearly he wasn't the wrong.
Speaker 1: But there are still moments where I watch you, guys,
Speaker 1: and you can still see there is that softness there.
Speaker 1: Do you think that will be there forever? Do you
Speaker 1: think that's all people that have gotten divorced like there
Speaker 1: is you guys are.
Speaker 3: Just tolerating him because you're because you're on a show together.
Speaker 4: No, I mean, like of our time on the show,
Speaker 4: you saw so much like really bad between us, because
Speaker 4: that might be just more interesting to want. But we
Speaker 4: I mean, obviously we were together for a really long
Speaker 4: time for a reason, and because we did have a
Speaker 4: lot of love and there was a really great friendship
Speaker 4: between us. We did enjoy each other. And I think
Speaker 4: you're seeing what that was a little bit more now,
Speaker 4: even if it is not necessarily romantic anymore, but we
Speaker 4: did have a really great friendship. But we did enjoy
Speaker 4: each other and laugh together and poke fun. And so
Speaker 4: I think we're able to kind of just have that
Speaker 4: with each other now, even if we're not like friends
Speaker 4: like great friends anymore. It's just when we're around each.
Speaker 3: Other, I actually enjoy the two of you together and
Speaker 3: scenes I find that I find you entertaining because you
Speaker 3: can see that comfort level between the two of you.
Speaker 3: But can I ask you, do you feel like his
Speaker 3: treatment of Joe was bad? Like when I know you're
Speaker 3: not particularly fond of her, but when you see that,
Speaker 3: but she just.
Speaker 1: Offended Joe, you just offended him when Joe called him
Speaker 1: an f boy, right.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I said the similar thing to him, because that's
Speaker 4: the thing. This is where I get into the whole
Speaker 4: like not wanting to be fully accountable for the things
Speaker 4: that he says and does, because I had a conversation
Speaker 4: with him as well, because he was like, you know,
Speaker 4: I told her like I, you know, didn't really want
Speaker 4: a relationship. I'm like, yeah, but saying one thing and
Speaker 4: doing another very different. You might have been saying that
Speaker 4: to her sort of maybe, but then when you're calling
Speaker 4: her and asking her hangout all the time and waiting
Speaker 4: to stay at.
Speaker 1: Your house, Yeah, yeah. And did he say I love
Speaker 1: you to her? Is that true?
Speaker 4: I don't that I she said that. He says, he's
Speaker 4: not really confirmed that. I don't know, but I just said,
Speaker 4: I'm like, you gave her a very different vibe with
Speaker 4: your actions and also probably with your words as well,
Speaker 4: So you know, I think it's possible that you let
Speaker 4: her on, but also maybe that she listened. I've accepted
Speaker 4: crumbs myself, so and I don't want to fully blame myself,
Speaker 4: but I do have to take a little bit of
Speaker 4: responsibility for allowing myself to be you know.
Speaker 2: I've accepted crumbs as well.
Speaker 1: I mean, it happens, and it's all part of growth
Speaker 1: and realizing. But something that Joe, I mean other than
Speaker 1: I think Joe's trying to sabotage with the blonde terror
Speaker 1: something that was on purpose. So we looked dating thing.
Speaker 1: But I was curious because towards the beginning of the season,
Speaker 1: Joe did this post where she talked about how he
Speaker 1: was her best friend and all of these things, and
Speaker 1: now she's on Rachel's podcast with a completely different story.
Speaker 1: What is that?
Speaker 4: Oh gosh, yeah, I don't I don't know. I mean
Speaker 4: that post was wild. Yeah, but I feel I feel
Speaker 4: like the getting on the podcast and and it's like,
Speaker 4: you know that that like meme where it's like two
Speaker 4: bessies sitting you'll tell each other exactly. It's like those
Speaker 4: things like them hyping each other up and that you know,
Speaker 4: Joe could probably feel very content and about the situation,
Speaker 4: but then she gets around somebody else and being like,
Speaker 4: that's crazy, you shouldn't feel that way, and then get
Speaker 4: her kind of of wiled up about in a completely
Speaker 4: different way, you.
Speaker 1: Know, so unlike you, she can be easily swayed by
Speaker 1: whoever she's around. But do you think a big part
Speaker 1: of it is that she just wants to be on
Speaker 1: vander Pompoules because that whole scene with La La where
Speaker 1: she's like, I just want to be in the group.
Speaker 2: Wait, Teddy, can you imitate Joe? Please?
Speaker 1: Can you show Katie.
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 2: I can't? Why?
Speaker 1: Why does the lip have to go like that? And
Speaker 1: it makes me feel anxious?
Speaker 4: I mean, I don't know, Listen, I don't know.
Speaker 2: She has no response. She's like, I don't know how
Speaker 2: to respond to this.
Speaker 4: I'm scared too. I'm scared left because I you know,
Speaker 4: I said, I do one Instagram comment and it just
Speaker 4: lives in infany Why would you come on the show period?
Speaker 4: If you don't want to come on the show. I
Speaker 4: don't know. She's to make it like her, you know,
Speaker 4: full time thing.
Speaker 3: I'm not sure what do you think of Schwartz's new girlfriend,
Speaker 3: because we were talking about her yesterday. We saw a
Speaker 3: photo of her and we thought she looked eleven maybe twelve.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean she's a young gal.
Speaker 2: Katie's very diplomatic.
Speaker 1: She still wears her uniform to school, but she's a
Speaker 1: legal age.
Speaker 4: Guys, mean, listen, I'm not an agist per se, do
Speaker 4: you think Schwartz has a date younger women so that
Speaker 4: I don't know, so that they're easier manipulated, Like he
Speaker 4: can't date a forty year old woman.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't deal with that crap.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, yeah, there's something, there's something there. Perhaps
Speaker 4: first of all, I wanted to be happy and he's happy. Great,
Speaker 4: But I think, you know, and again I think people
Speaker 4: can meet someone and they can be significantly younger and
Speaker 4: it can work out. However, you know, I think sometimes
Speaker 4: when when someone is that young, they still have a
Speaker 4: lot of life experience to have. And I mean from
Speaker 4: the time I was twenty three to twenty six, I changed.
Speaker 4: From the time I was twenty six at the time
Speaker 4: I was thirty, I completely changed. So, like, you know,
Speaker 4: there is that to be said. Doesn't mean she's not
Speaker 4: lovely or whatever, but I think he's referred to as
Speaker 4: being an old soul. And then I watched us the
Speaker 4: thing where she was talking about old souls, and they're like,
Speaker 4: the only time they refer to a girl in her
Speaker 4: twenties being old souls when something traumatic happened to her
Speaker 4: and she shouldn't be dating a man in his forties,
Speaker 4: she should be talking to a woman in an office
Speaker 4: about what happened to him. Wha, she's attracted to men
Speaker 4: that look like they could be her uncle.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that sounds like a daddy complex.
Speaker 4: The old soule thing is is a little wild to
Speaker 4: me because it is that's that is true.
Speaker 1: Can we talk about the girl that both you and
Speaker 1: Shorts potentially dated the painting I really need to know.
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess we'll see as this plays out,
Speaker 1: but I need to know if you go on another
Speaker 1: date with her, because after the painting date, when she
Speaker 1: didn't realize the YouTube and the in your face in
Speaker 1: that moment, I was like, Katie's got to be done
Speaker 1: at this point the.
Speaker 4: Bob rossly, Yeah, yes, I mean dating was a bit
Speaker 4: of a stretch. I mean we I think we hung
Speaker 4: out a little bit more, but it was like it
Speaker 4: was very casual. But yeah, no, I mean it didn't
Speaker 4: really take off, just.
Speaker 1: Like the her nanny for she now or dating Shorts
Speaker 1: or I mean, she seemed like she mightn't want to
Speaker 1: get in the mix as well.
Speaker 4: I mean she's been in the mix for a while,
Speaker 4: That's how I met her.
Speaker 3: But you know, yeah, were you were you really interested
Speaker 3: in her or was it more about kind of taking
Speaker 3: her from Schwartz, Like did you take some pleasure in that?
Speaker 4: No, I mean I it would have been better if
Speaker 4: he was just I thought he was with Joe. That's
Speaker 4: the thing.
Speaker 1: I didn't know Joe thought so too.
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, by the time I had stags in
Speaker 4: there found out that like her and Schwartz were like
Speaker 4: maybe talking, I had already like talked to her, and
Speaker 4: I was like, well, I'm not going to like be like, oh,
Speaker 4: just kidding, never mind, just because maybe him and you know,
Speaker 4: him and Tory had been talking. I was like, well,
Speaker 4: this is unfortunate, but oh.
Speaker 1: Well, well no, it wasn't unfortunate. Max Boyan's was pretty hot.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious. Did that happen more than once?
Speaker 4: Uh not really.
Speaker 2: That's either yes or no.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna be thinking.
Speaker 3: Like, eh, not really no, So no, So it was
Speaker 3: one of the time. Was it more revenge related or
Speaker 3: were you attracted to him?
Speaker 4: I mean Max is an attractive guy, Like we can
Speaker 4: all look at him and be like.
Speaker 1: Yeah, objectively he's attractive.
Speaker 4: Objectively, yes, he's attractive, And it was not revenge thing.
Speaker 4: It was just like, I'm not going to like be
Speaker 4: care about what Tom thinks in this moment? Were you
Speaker 4: just really what anybody thought in that moment? Which is
Speaker 4: unfortunate for people that I really do care about how
Speaker 4: they feel.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about how many like how many
Speaker 1: people's location do you have on your phone?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 3: I don't, That's what I was going to ask you.
Speaker 3: Does she still track everyone? Does she still know where
Speaker 3: everyone is?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I think she said that she had got more people's
Speaker 4: location since I share their location with her since then,
Speaker 4: which is crazy. Do you share your location with her? No?
Speaker 1: I don't.
Speaker 4: Like. The only time I share my location is if
Speaker 4: like I'm like traveling with somebody and it's like a
Speaker 4: safety thing of like, but I do it so it expires.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the thirty six hours or whatever it might be, Teddy,
Speaker 2: do you share your location?
Speaker 1: It was Shina? No, But I will after the pot
Speaker 1: and see if she accepts it now. But I think
Speaker 1: she is annoyed at me because she sent me a
Speaker 1: text a while back, so I think it might be
Speaker 1: a while before she cares where I am or what
Speaker 1: did you piss her off already?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 1: That's I tend to do that. But I think she'll
Speaker 1: come back around one other thing about Sena before we
Speaker 1: get into La La. There was a thing between Sena
Speaker 1: and Jack's where Jack's I think was so inappropriate by saying,
Speaker 1: you know, Sheena the mom shaming all that stuff. But
Speaker 1: Sheena said she alluded to the fact that pasta doesn't
Speaker 1: actually mean pasta. We've now heard this rumor for years.
Speaker 1: Is pasta freaking pasta? Or is pasta extracurricular activities?
Speaker 2: I just please set me straight.
Speaker 4: Pasta is pasta pasta. I just think she was looking.
Speaker 4: I don't know. I think she wanted to say something
Speaker 4: else and didn't have another word, and I think she
Speaker 4: wanted to send a message, and.
Speaker 1: So she hearsed passa kind of like the Apple song.
Speaker 1: Were you really sick that you didn't go to the
Speaker 1: video because you didn't look sick?
Speaker 2: I'm sick.
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 4: I was so sick for like date. Okay, there was
Speaker 4: something that went around. It went around through our entire cast,
Speaker 4: our entire crew, like everybody. It touched everybody. Okay, I
Speaker 4: think I got it from Tory.
Speaker 1: Oh, well, that would make sense.
Speaker 2: Well, she was making out with some people, so that
Speaker 2: makes sense.
Speaker 1: But I do have to give Katie props. I was
Speaker 1: once at a location with Katie and there was the
Speaker 1: hottest guy we have probably ever seen, and this guy
Speaker 1: did a B line to Katie and she was so
Speaker 1: cool and so laid back, and I just saw him
Speaker 1: like eating out of her fingers. Like, what do you
Speaker 1: think it is about you that just like because you
Speaker 1: didn't make any effort? Yeah? Okay, so what do you
Speaker 1: think it is? Like do you give an eye like
Speaker 1: for a listen that want to bring a dude in
Speaker 1: or bring a chicken?
Speaker 2: Like what is your move?
Speaker 4: I don't people say the confidence because it's like what
Speaker 4: does that even mean? I think it's just sort of
Speaker 4: like eye contact and like kind of folding that a
Speaker 4: little bit.
Speaker 3: No, you know, I'll tell you what it is because
Speaker 3: Katie has a very cool aloofiness to her.
Speaker 2: She's very aloof, and I feel like that interested.
Speaker 3: But I don't know if a loof is the right word,
Speaker 3: but it's like a confident aloof.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, you're not trying to like get attention.
Speaker 2: Yeah she's not trying too hard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like you're not going into the club like look
Speaker 1: at me, You're just standing there and then okay, so
Speaker 1: you're holding your gaze longer.
Speaker 3: Than that two seconds. Oh, I see Teddy, Wan's actual
Speaker 3: specific we're training.
Speaker 4: You see somebody like get their like attention, but not
Speaker 4: in a showy way, like just try to get some
Speaker 4: eye contact maybe a few times, but don't try to
Speaker 4: like make like a scene out of it. Just kind
Speaker 4: of like hang out with your friend, do your thing,
Speaker 4: and then it just eventually eventually they come.
Speaker 1: They all come, Okay, can you talk to us about
Speaker 1: la La? Okay, because we got there was a bunch
Speaker 1: of Lalla this season. There was some pretty like volatile
Speaker 1: moments you know in the past where you two have
Speaker 1: but butted heads. But then Laala has said at the
Speaker 1: reunion grossed her out because people were fraudulent.
Speaker 2: Who do you believe she was talking about in that moment?
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't know if I can say, because
Speaker 4: I don't want to give anything away.
Speaker 2: Can you tell us male or female?
Speaker 4: Female?
Speaker 2: Does it rhyme with Schmadi.
Speaker 1: Or not?
Speaker 2: Marianna?
Speaker 1: But you're really good, very covert, Teddy, because we saw, okay,
Speaker 1: we can narrow it down if it's female and it's
Speaker 1: a full time cast member, be about a full time
Speaker 1: cast member. She was just with she and at Coachella.
Speaker 1: So it's either got to be you or Ariana. But
Speaker 1: you have been unfollowed, and so is Ariana because she
Speaker 1: wanted to even out her count on Instagram.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you stay following. Are you an unfollower or
Speaker 2: blocker in general?
Speaker 4: I'm not. I'm not an unfollower or blocker. I just
Speaker 4: paid people with dust. I just don't like I might
Speaker 4: mute them if I don't want to, like look at
Speaker 4: what they're posting, if they're like if if it's bugging me,
Speaker 4: But I just I feel like the the unfollowing and
Speaker 4: the block it feels so like a juvenile.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then because then it's like if you like
Speaker 4: make up, then you're like got to do like the
Speaker 4: refollow it. You know, It's just I don't know.
Speaker 3: Just so it's so interesting to me that social media
Speaker 3: follows that stuff so closely. So like if you unfollow
Speaker 3: each other or block each other or or unfollow and refollow,
Speaker 3: they write stories about it. And so that's why it's
Speaker 3: just it's easier not to do it than you just don't.
Speaker 3: You don't put the energy out there.
Speaker 4: Right m m.
Speaker 1: But you're just at her gender reveal, so now I'm
Speaker 1: confused again.
Speaker 4: I'm I am as well.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, so all right, glad, glad, we're all
Speaker 1: in the state. That was clear enough, So you're confused
Speaker 1: as well. This heart, this is not to be shady.
Speaker 1: I know you're about it out of time. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at the background of your room.
Speaker 2: It looks very clean.
Speaker 4: This is well, this is this is like my like bedroom,
Speaker 4: like spare bedroom. So we're like, I keep my shoes.
Speaker 1: Okay, but it's organized, and we went into I don't
Speaker 1: sleep next to my shoes, okay. But it appears to
Speaker 1: me that shorts Sandoval and Arianna are very messy individuals,
Speaker 1: and for someone with us, that causes me stress.
Speaker 4: I definitely like am somebody that will like let a
Speaker 4: little bit of like clutter happen. But I like that,
Speaker 4: like it feels like a little bit like lived in.
Speaker 4: But no, like I I a way more tidy.
Speaker 1: Do you leave chicken sate on your bedside tail?
Speaker 3: Can you admit that might be a little slobby?
Speaker 4: No? I think what what I think that's about is
Speaker 4: like it really just shows kind of like how the
Speaker 4: living stites, like she's truly like living just solely in
Speaker 4: that bedroom, like there. She's not like living amongst like
Speaker 4: the rest of the home. She's not like the kitchen
Speaker 4: is not somewhere that she's like hanging out and she's
Speaker 4: not eating in her kitchen. She's not living in her
Speaker 4: living room. She's really just in that bedroom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do you watch The Valley?
Speaker 4: I have been. I don't know if I've seen every
Speaker 4: single episode, but I watched the other night. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Who do you enjoy on that show the most?
Speaker 4: I mean, I love Janet and Jason on there. I
Speaker 4: think they're great, and I mean I know them. I
Speaker 4: feel like I don't know everybody likes super well, but
Speaker 4: I'm I've I'm been acquainted with everybody to some degree.
Speaker 2: What do you think about Jesse?
Speaker 1: Jesse won me over this episode because Michelle is a cheater, cheater,
Speaker 1: pumpkin eater, and like that's fine, admit it from the beginning.
Speaker 1: Don't lead us on that he's solely an asshole. I
Speaker 1: want to know that.
Speaker 2: I want to know at the beginning.
Speaker 1: Oh no, he's still I don't know, and I need
Speaker 1: to know if it was Quinn Tarantino or Michael Bay.
Speaker 2: I need I don't want to see the blurb out,
Speaker 2: do you know Katie.
Speaker 4: I don't know, but now I want to find out.
Speaker 1: All right, can you get on the horn? Can you
Speaker 1: find that out for us?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Well now that I didn't know any of this
Speaker 4: when it was going on, but like now that I
Speaker 4: know that, there's like some kind of something I need to.
Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, you got to catch up now, Okay, can
Speaker 1: we play F Mary kil sure? Or it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be kill.
Speaker 2: It could be.
Speaker 1: Name name whatever, Jack's Joe and Sandoval F Mary kill?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 5: Oh my god, sorry you have to pick. It's just
Speaker 5: you can pickture Emily. Oh okay, let's see. Well, oh
Speaker 5: my god, this is I would marry. I would I would.
Speaker 3: Marry Jacks because I find him amusing, but we would
Speaker 3: end up divorce after like six weeks.
Speaker 2: No joke. F Sandoval killed Joe? Who has the most
Speaker 2: money of this group? Of those three? Oh, that's what
Speaker 2: you want to marry.
Speaker 1: I've got to figure it out some way.
Speaker 2: I mean this, well, Jack Jackson has a lot of
Speaker 2: cameos to do. Okay, yeah, he does a lot more
Speaker 2: than me.
Speaker 1: All Right, Katie, you gotta go.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, I I this is terrible.
Speaker 1: To kill them all.
Speaker 4: I want to kill him Okay, Like who am I
Speaker 4: going to make?
Speaker 1: The killing is an easy one.
Speaker 4: Yeah, like any of them can go Uh well, yeah,
Speaker 4: I could marry Jackson, just divorce them. I don't even
Speaker 4: have to have sex with him.
Speaker 1: I mean, Brandy's not.
Speaker 4: I guess I could. I guess I could fuck Joe because.
Speaker 2: You know, really well that's especially Joe and Sandoval at
Speaker 2: this point. So she's got to go with Joe.
Speaker 1: I mean it wouldn't be great for you to stand
Speaker 1: at this point, Like I feel like that would cause
Speaker 1: a lot of drama for you on the show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she has to kill him. That's the only option.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god, that she's disturbed. Now we like
Speaker 2: to end on a really positive note.
Speaker 4: Ye, it's not gonna sit with me all day?
Speaker 1: Or is there anything you want to tease that's coming
Speaker 1: up or anything else you want to talk about before
Speaker 1: you have to go?
Speaker 4: Like, I'm not over that.
Speaker 2: Look, she needs therapy now.
Speaker 1: Yes.
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Speaker 1: We have a good time, all right, Well, you guys
Speaker 1: should definitely tune in because it's super entertaining and the final,
Speaker 1: the final final is Did you know ahead of Arianna
Speaker 1: doing Dancing with the Stars that she was doing Dancing
Speaker 1: with the Stars?
Speaker 4: No, I think you just lie to me. I didn't. No,
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 3: Do you think Sheena is over that Arianna was on
Speaker 3: Dancy with the Stars?
Speaker 2: I think bry now she now.
Speaker 1: Okay, now she's a said about Chicago.
Speaker 4: And Arianna even went into something about her and did
Speaker 4: that whole promo with Derek Coff and I didn't even
Speaker 4: know about that, Like, so she really kept it a secret.
Speaker 2: All right?
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it is a big India and you
Speaker 1: don't want to lose a job like that. So I
Speaker 1: can't actually believe you on that. Do we have any
Speaker 1: other dude to action or female action with you that
Speaker 1: we're going to see play out through this season? No,
Speaker 1: we had a dry spell.
Speaker 2: She's hopelessly alone the rest of the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm optimistically alone.
Speaker 3: Optimistically alone. I like that she's losing. She's loofully alone.
Speaker 4: Listen for the options.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's better to wait it out, especially
Speaker 1: if her f Mary Killer jackstra. I want to know
Speaker 1: who the hot guy is that came up to her.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, is she not an option?
Speaker 1: Katie?
Speaker 4: No, I mean he was an option that night. They'll
Speaker 4: say that much, but no, I mean like it wasn't
Speaker 4: like something.
Speaker 1: That was going to like no anywhere, but it was
Speaker 1: it needed to go somewhere that night. The entire club
Speaker 1: we were all like, yeah, he was fine, Fine, I
Speaker 1: need a photo. Are you a kid person? I'm not
Speaker 1: saying do you want to have kids? But are you
Speaker 1: a kid person in general? Because when I saw you
Speaker 1: and Laala having that discussion where Lala was feeling hurt
Speaker 1: and Emily and I had a discussion about kids, like,
Speaker 1: some people just don't want to be around other people's
Speaker 1: kids all the time, and that is completely fine.
Speaker 4: I think like generally, yeah, I do, I like kids
Speaker 4: most of the time. Some kids are annoying, but yeah,
Speaker 4: like ninety five percent of the time I really like kids.
Speaker 1: Okay, then that makes you know, But on your free time,
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense if you don't have kids
Speaker 1: that you don't necessarily want to want to hang out
Speaker 1: with people who have kids.
Speaker 4: I like all my friends' kids.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, okay, so we just didn't know, all right,
Speaker 1: but okay, well we're excited to keep watching and see
Speaker 1: what happens. You guys got a lot of episodes this season,
Speaker 1: and uh, I'm looking forward to the reunion and I'm
Speaker 1: going to stay on track of the who's following who
Speaker 1: We're on it. Can you do me a favor? Can
Speaker 1: you just like all of her posts?
Speaker 2: Like who's posts?
Speaker 4: Who?
Speaker 1: Do you want her to like anyone that unfollows her?
Speaker 1: If she likes them, then there's the stories are going
Speaker 1: to keep going. So you want her to sit around
Speaker 1: and just like people's posts that have unfollowed. She could
Speaker 1: do it in two seconds, right now, Just go through
Speaker 1: and like the last ten.
Speaker 4: Posts like I don't have anything better to do.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1: Well, thank you so much, Katie, Oh my pleasure.
Speaker 3: Thanks guys for joining us today on Popping Off, and
Speaker 3: thank you to Katie Maloney for joining us today. It's
Speaker 3: a juicy episode.