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Speaker 1: Welcome to episode three nine with John Michael Montgomery. I mean,

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Speaker 1: growing up, John Michael Montgomery was the man. Right now,

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Speaker 1: John Michael Montgomery is the man. We learn a lot

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Speaker 1: about him, but I'll just walk you through some some stuff.

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Speaker 1: I swear massive hit for him, be my baby tonight.

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Speaker 1: I can love you like that. I love you like that.

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Speaker 1: I would make you sold the Gundy County auction. Babba

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Speaker 1: blah blue bada this song. But probably when we talked

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Speaker 1: about this a little bit, Life's to Dance which jam,

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Speaker 1: so just so you can hear a little bit before

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Speaker 1: you go into it. Uh. He was born five and Danville,

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Speaker 1: Kentucky near Lexington. He talks about his family and how

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Speaker 1: he you know you'll hear this, and how he learned

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Speaker 1: how to play music. Also pretty crazy that his brother

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Speaker 1: is also a massively successful country artist, and we talked

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Speaker 1: about that. His brother, by the way, is half of

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Speaker 1: Montgomery gentry. I mean John Michael Montgomery, last name Montgomery,

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Speaker 1: the other name Montgomery, famous brother. Yeah, so though that's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. He and something we didn't talk about, but

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Speaker 1: he has no smell at all. I forgot to ask

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Speaker 1: him about this and it's not from COVID, Yeah, pre

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Speaker 1: existing condition. He just has no smell. John Michael mcgomery

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Speaker 1: cannot smell, so he was living COVID before it was

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Speaker 1: even a thing. Someone wants poor deary, you're un on

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Speaker 1: his pillow to make sure he wasn't lying, and he wasn't.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, I guess you could pull that off

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Speaker 1: and be like, I can't smell, but you really gotta

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Speaker 1: commit to His daughter, Madison just got engaged to Travis Denning.

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Speaker 1: We talked about his golf career, which I did not

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Speaker 1: know he was as good as he was. And then

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Speaker 1: he just celebrated a twenty s anniversary with his wife Crystal.

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Speaker 1: But big fan of John Michael Montgomery really had a

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Speaker 1: great time with this interview, and I think you will

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Speaker 1: like it too, especially if you love a nineties country.

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Speaker 1: So here you go. It is me with Mike and

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Speaker 1: John Michael Montgomery. Al Right, we have a apparently a

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Speaker 1: weed eater that just went off. I mean, is this

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Speaker 1: the greatest timing ever that the weed or the whatever?

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Speaker 1: The leafblower, what do you would you use? Right now?

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Speaker 1: Winter is like here in snow is melting. I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: it's probably more of a leaf blow yeah, I would

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Speaker 1: think so too. Yeah, I don't think weed eaters are

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Speaker 1: needed right now at this time. You're getting out of

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Speaker 1: here anyway. And also as someone who used a weed

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Speaker 1: eater a lot because added many jobs, but mostly I

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Speaker 1: did golf course maintenance for a long time. Yeah, a

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Speaker 1: weed eater is a little higher pitch. Yeah you know. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: oh yeah, and uh it's a I hate weed eating.

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Speaker 1: I'll just go ahead and tell you I got a

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Speaker 1: guy that does that for me, and I'm so happy

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Speaker 1: about it. Did you have any jobs growing up? Could

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Speaker 1: you grow up in Kentucky? Right? Yeah? Like what kind

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Speaker 1: of rural jobs did you have? Because I grew up

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Speaker 1: in Arkansas and I had a lot of them. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: a lot of similarities with Kentucky and Arkansas. You know.

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Speaker 1: The I did everything from of course, a bad grocery is.

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Speaker 1: I worked in my mom and dad. Even though they

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Speaker 1: were musicians, they were butcher's. They cut meat and stuff.

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Speaker 1: So I would you know, I did some of that.

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Speaker 1: I helped build, uh, swimming pools like digging. Yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: talking about a tough job. It sounds like that. You know,

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Speaker 1: you gotta get down there and the bottom and you

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Speaker 1: gotta take a a little paddle that forms the bottom

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Speaker 1: smooth it out, so you know when you put the

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Speaker 1: the bottle on it, you know, it's nice and smooth

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Speaker 1: and everything like that. And I remember we hit and

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Speaker 1: while we're down in there. Now, you know, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it's probably eighteen seventeen, eighteen years old.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. I mean, we all pretty

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Speaker 1: much stripped down to our underwear almost to do this job,

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Speaker 1: It was almost midnight. He comes in there, signs his

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Speaker 1: about four am in the morning. I was getting paid

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Speaker 1: never did a job like I waited tables at Cheat Cheese,

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Speaker 1: which I enjoyed, but I sucked at it. I mean

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Speaker 1: a gift the best I got. But I remember turning

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Speaker 1: a day, and uh, I love their h I love

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Speaker 1: their chips. They had great chips at Cheat Cheese. You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't a lot of people don't know what cheat.

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Speaker 1: I don't, so Cheat Cheese is a it was. It

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Speaker 1: was a big, huge Mexican chain restaurant. I mean they

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Speaker 1: big boots. I think that's what. Yeah, is this a rumor?

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Speaker 1: You couldn't ask the guy. I I just know that

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Speaker 1: that's what they said. Unfortunately, you know, a few years

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Speaker 1: But uh, but I loved the place because they had

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Speaker 1: great chips and and uh and of course the bartender

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Speaker 1: I knew pretty well he'd sneaked me a jumbo margharita.

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Speaker 1: a jumbo, like sneaking a small margarita, but sneaking a

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Speaker 1: you gotta know sometimes uh you know, when uh it

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Speaker 1: And I was like, wow, you know, I'd make maybe

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Speaker 1: you know, because I went on stage at nine o'clock.

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Speaker 1: I had to end up quitting because, like I said,

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Speaker 1: I was not very good at this job. So I

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Speaker 1: Dacre's and of course the little girl they ordered and

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Speaker 1: not a dackery for her, like a like a virgin DACII. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so I go to the bartender, who sneaks me Margarita's,

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Speaker 1: So here comes uh. We called him Taco. He was

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Speaker 1: He comes back and he's like, they're all cool. It's

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Speaker 1: like we we you know, they were wondering why she

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Speaker 1: I probably need to find another gig, you know, another

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Speaker 1: job this one right here. Probably I don't need to

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Speaker 1: I can't. I got a one track mind, basically, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I can't shuffle other jobs. I'm terrible at what do

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Speaker 1: were you just like, I don't like doing this. No,

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Speaker 1: I mean I enjoyed doing it. I enjoyed meeting the people.

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Speaker 1: I just you know, the way my brain operates. I

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Speaker 1: just it wasn't you gotta be able to multitask, could

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Speaker 1: be a good server. I was the best. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: I just I couldn't. It was like I can sit

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Speaker 1: video game because I can spend hours at that one

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Speaker 1: and you know, and and I'm you know, I got

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Speaker 1: can't do multitasking. I mean basically it's easy to distract

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Speaker 1: me from one thing. You know. Well, to be fair,

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Speaker 1: I couldn't remember orders with that writing them down. I

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Speaker 1: that's pretty a plus. I do want to get to

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Speaker 1: the video game thing. You play video games. I used

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Speaker 1: to dominate them. I could. I just spent a lot

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Speaker 1: that and then uh, I would you know, a lot

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Speaker 1: bowling Alley and Danville or someplace like that. There was

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Speaker 1: the uh, into the video game place in putting quarters in.

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Speaker 1: It was was an ark. Arcades were huge back then,

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Speaker 1: but I think it, Uh, I think it was one

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Speaker 1: So it was a fun story. He's a great guy,

426
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: but it really was hard for me. I really like

427
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 1: playing basketball for him, But you know, it just once

428
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: once I get it, just takes that magical moment for me,

429
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: just like when I hit that first golf ball and

430
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 1: I was like, I get it now. I'm so blown

431
00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,359
Speaker 1: away that you got that good at golf. I'm just

432
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:52,439
Speaker 1: my mind is blown that you were that competitive. But

433
00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: it does seem like, just as you're talking about things

434
00:22:56,160 --> 00:23:00,560
Speaker 1: that your personality is to find and focus and and master,

435
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,760
Speaker 1: and it's pretty cool, Like I I can respect that.

436
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 1: You know, when you talk about how you play guitar

437
00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 1: when you were younger, what what's the age difference between

438
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:10,280
Speaker 1: you and your brother? A year and a half. Wow,

439
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,160
Speaker 1: that's so close. Now. Did he have the same dreams

440
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:17,320
Speaker 1: to be a country star? I think we both actually,

441
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: you know, wouldn't like we wanted to be famous right

442
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:22,320
Speaker 1: off the bat. We just love to get on stage

443
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,080
Speaker 1: and perform. And then we got better at it, and

444
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 1: then we started our own band, a little three piece

445
00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 1: band with a guy bass player, guy a good friend

446
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: of her, Tim Williams, and and we did that around

447
00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: Frankfurt in different places on the weekends, and then a uh,

448
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,639
Speaker 1: then a job full time five nights we gig opened

449
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: up in Lectington and that was our dream, was like,

450
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: are we good enough to do that? But what was it?

451
00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:49,800
Speaker 1: Five nights a week? Was in a restaurant? Was that?

452
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,880
Speaker 1: It was a club, you know, club called Austin City Saloon,

453
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:55,560
Speaker 1: and you were like the house band. Yeah, and a

454
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: guy named Greg Austin played there. Uh no relation of

455
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 1: the Austin City Saloon and Greg Austin. I don't think

456
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,040
Speaker 1: they named it after him. But we used to go

457
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 1: in there and watch him play. And uh, that's where

458
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 1: I met Troy Gentry, I believe it or not. We

459
00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:12,960
Speaker 1: me and him first met there. So you met Troy

460
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,479
Speaker 1: before your brother did. What was Troy was Troy? Did

461
00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 1: he live up there? Yeah? He was from Lecington, Yeah,

462
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: and he was doing like I was. He was just

463
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,960
Speaker 1: going around to different places, getting up on stage, trying

464
00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,400
Speaker 1: to make a name for himself and and we kind

465
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 1: of got to be pretty good buddies actually, And uh

466
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:32,240
Speaker 1: then when Austin Gregg left, Austin City had got sold

467
00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: and another guy bought it out. He was having a

468
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 1: hard time drawing a crowd in there, and my brother

469
00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 1: Eddie I told him, said, we can draw a crowd

470
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: in there, so could you or was he just saying

471
00:24:44,440 --> 00:24:46,159
Speaker 1: that to get the gig. Well, I think Edie was

472
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,919
Speaker 1: just saying that to get the gig. But he was

473
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: Eightie was Eightie can he's the best he let me

474
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:56,040
Speaker 1: tell you, Eddie is he can be s He just

475
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: full of it. I mean I love it because he

476
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 1: can literally talk. I mean you have talk, you know,

477
00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: fish out of water. I may have fishing or whatever

478
00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:08,160
Speaker 1: whatever the saying is. I mean, Eddie always had really

479
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 1: cool cars because he just had that knack. I had

480
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: pieces of junk that had constantly work on all the time.

481
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,680
Speaker 1: And I was like, man, he's got a good, cool,

482
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:19,520
Speaker 1: cool car. And then he traded it off for another

483
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:24,160
Speaker 1: cool car. But Eddie was really good with that salesman.

484
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 1: He could call people up and talk to him and

485
00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,919
Speaker 1: talk him into stuff. And so the guy gave us

486
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 1: an opportunity and he says, hey, this guys, we gotta

487
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 1: put a band together, because at the time we were disbanded.

488
00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, I said, we'll get Tim Williams.

489
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,560
Speaker 1: Edie's gonna play drums for me. That's what Eddie did

490
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,080
Speaker 1: for me, played drums, and uh Troy, I said, I

491
00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: asked Troy if you'd be part of the band, and

492
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: he said yeah. So it was me, Eddie, Tim Williams,

493
00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: and Troy Gentry and we called it John Michael mcgomery

494
00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: in Young Country. And then we had a keyboard player

495
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:02,119
Speaker 1: is John Michael Montgomery and Gentry basically and exactly. And

496
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: so I mean, the guy gave us, he said, I'll

497
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 1: give you guys two weeks if you show we start

498
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 1: bringing crowd here. We started packing the place. I mean,

499
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:15,719
Speaker 1: because I knew what kind of music that place Texas

500
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:17,920
Speaker 1: to Step and was getting really popular at the time.

501
00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: Greg Austin played a lot of songs and I would

502
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: watch these people do these two steps Texas to Step

503
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: in the line dancing. This is you know, ight six

504
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: eighties seven, and I was like, what kind of dances

505
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 1: that you know? And there's like Texas to Step and

506
00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: it was that it was beginning, begin beginning to sweep

507
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,879
Speaker 1: the country. And so I went in there, and of

508
00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 1: course I played a lot of George Straight stuff, and

509
00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:43,840
Speaker 1: I mean I played, you know, we all sang every

510
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: everything from Bob Seeger to George Strade. We we covered

511
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:51,600
Speaker 1: it all, and uh, I mean, and plus we were

512
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of young single guys that'd like to have

513
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 1: a lot of fun. So it uk you know, college town.

514
00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 1: I mean we packed the place. I mean we started

515
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,160
Speaker 1: packing the place and then you know, so it became

516
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,840
Speaker 1: a good gig for us for a while. And then

517
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: I tell on Sundays, me and Troy was trying to

518
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: make a little extra money so we would actually get

519
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 1: together and his dad on a little restaurant. We talked

520
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: his dad and letting me and Troy go in there

521
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,640
Speaker 1: on a week on a Sunday because they weren't doing

522
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 1: any business. He was thinking about closing it up. It's

523
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 1: called the Grapevine, and uh, we asked him if he'd

524
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,640
Speaker 1: let us come here on Sunday and me and Troy

525
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: would just do a little doo And he was the

526
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:41,399
Speaker 1: original Montgomery and I absolutely and every time i'd see Troy,

527
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,280
Speaker 1: I'd go, you know that we you were the firstry.

528
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:49,120
Speaker 1: He just my real big So what's that dynamic? Because

529
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,199
Speaker 1: did you move to Nashville first, And if you and

530
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: your brother already playing together, why did you not doo

531
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 1: up like well, I mean, here's here's where my head

532
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: was when I was about twenty four or years old,

533
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: playing five nights a week. I was like, I saw

534
00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:07,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the musicians around town. They're thirty five,

535
00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 1: forty years old still, you know, and playing four and

536
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,159
Speaker 1: five nights a week, and I just didn't want to

537
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,480
Speaker 1: be that. I was like, I want by the time

538
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 1: I'm thirty, I want to know where I'm gonna what

539
00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna choose. I'm not gonna continue trying to I

540
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: don't want to continue playing clubs. I either need to

541
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 1: go to Nashville and try to make a living sand demos,

542
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 1: writing songs, doing something. But I don't want to be

543
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: a nightclub or the rest of my life. Uh. And

544
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 1: either that or I just need to go get a

545
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: real job, you know, and have some kids and family

546
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 1: and just enjoy music on the weekend down hundred degrees.

547
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 1: I don't need the ground with the paddles. You're already

548
00:28:48,080 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: good at it. Yeah and so literally, I uh um,

549
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: I had made up my mind once I turned twenty five,

550
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: I was gonna make a decision to move down here. Well, uh,

551
00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: just so happened. Nashville started looking for talent outside of Nashville,

552
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:12,000
Speaker 1: and uh and there was a guy up in uh

553
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: Lexington that was doing a showcase for Atlantic Records, and

554
00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: the manager that guy stopped by the bar uh to

555
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 1: listen to this song that that his artist that he

556
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: got on that on Atlantic loved. So I sang it

557
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 1: for him. Is called a Few Cents Shore. I wrote

558
00:29:31,360 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: it and I got done and I said, well, how

559
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: do you like it? He went, I like you. He's like,

560
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: if you'll let me manage you, I'll get you on

561
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: the Lamp Records. I'm like, wow, he said that. Yeah.

562
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:47,120
Speaker 1: Did you believe him? No? I mean, I just I

563
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 1: was like, this guy is just telling me what I

564
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: want to hear, you know, I mean. And I said, well,

565
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: I said, it's a deal. If you you get me

566
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: on Atlantic record, Yeah, sure, I'll let you manage me.

567
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: You know. Estel Sowards was the name of the old

568
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: coal mine or Eastern Kentucky guide silk shirt and a

569
00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 1: gold nugget, you know. And I was like, there's no

570
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: way this guy's even gonna come through for me than

571
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: if he didn't, you know. And I remember writing down

572
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: in his Cadillac uh for the first time we run

573
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: out of fuel because he believed it had that little

574
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: extra fuel things. He believed that and right before we

575
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:25,800
Speaker 1: run out a fuel. He looks at He said, those

576
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:28,560
Speaker 1: dimples are gonna be worth a million dollars each. And

577
00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:32,640
Speaker 1: I was like, I said, Estel, come home. I said,

578
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: that's just silly. You know. The guy dreamed big. I

579
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,800
Speaker 1: loved it about him. You know, he had a little

580
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: stutter and stuff had real devoys. So we I said,

581
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 1: I said, you can't ever trust that extra fuel thing

582
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,760
Speaker 1: on their estill. I had to walk half a mile

583
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,960
Speaker 1: up a hill to a little white home, knock on

584
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 1: the door. Didn't have no cell phones back then. This

585
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:57,239
Speaker 1: was and uh, you know, a little old lady is like,

586
00:30:57,280 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: we run out a few rowing sixty five, know so,

587
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: but did she have fuel? She called the uh fuel

588
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 1: station that had whatever they called the Triple A. You know,

589
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: they came down brought some fuel and everything like that.

590
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,280
Speaker 1: But was that your first time going to Nashville. No,

591
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: I went to Nashville a long time ago, back in

592
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 1: around eighty I'm thinking it was eighty four eighty five.

593
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 1: I remember coming into town. We had this I had

594
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,239
Speaker 1: this guitar players, me and Eddie and Tim and and

595
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 1: he was long haired rock and roller guitar player, you know,

596
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:39,280
Speaker 1: and uh, we come rolling into Nashville, and that's when

597
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: Alabama had a huge Alabama signed there on the Division

598
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: Street or Music Road, whatever it was. They had a

599
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,920
Speaker 1: huge store there and they their name Alabama was on

600
00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 1: top of it. It was just flickering and I was like, wow,

601
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: that is so cool. I have got to go into

602
00:31:55,880 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: their course, you know, tour straight linel Ritchie, Alabama. That's

603
00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: where I got all my chops from. And you know

604
00:32:03,280 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: it was just like love songs and stuff like that.

605
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:10,720
Speaker 1: I mean, but uh uh no, I mean, I I

606
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: just uh uh. It was fortunate enough. So getting back

607
00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,920
Speaker 1: to the story, that's guy. They came up to see

608
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: that guy singing and showcasing. It's right down the road

609
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: from me, and uh this Uh they weren't impressed, I guess,

610
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 1: and yeah by him. And so this guy comes into

611
00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: the bar and it's on a weeknight, so it's like,

612
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,200
Speaker 1: we could tell this guy from out of town. There

613
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: ain't nobody in the bar. He didn't. He didn't look

614
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: like he's never been there, hadn't seen him before. So

615
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 1: I get done with a set and I walk over

616
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: to him and he's like, yeah, he said, I'm uh

617
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: from Atlantic Records. He's like, uh, I was over there

618
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 1: listening to this guy and he didn't impress me. And

619
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: he's so I asked the waitress, I said that there,

620
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: you know the place. Anybody is singing around here, and

621
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: she said, well, the best singer in town's right down

622
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,120
Speaker 1: the road here, John Michael Montgomery. And he went really

623
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 1: and I said, uh, so, whoever that waitress is, you

624
00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: still don't know who. Thank you very much. We have

625
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 1: on the phone right now. And uh but I was like, well,

626
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: I appreciate, and he said, you know what, I just

627
00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: after that said she she's right, She said, I got

628
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:25,400
Speaker 1: the rest of them coming over and you know, and

629
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 1: that's Uh. What does your brother think about that? That? Okay,

630
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna go sign to Atlantic? Does he follow you down? Yeah,

631
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 1: I mean he's been my um where did he come

632
00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: with you? Yeah? He come with me. I mean we

633
00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,320
Speaker 1: we went to Nashville together. We did everything together. You know,

634
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: he had of course, he had a life. I mean

635
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 1: he had kids and married and all this stuff. But

636
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: anytime we did music anything like that, I mean, we

637
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: did it together. I mean he played drums for me.

638
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: But once I started coming to Nashville, I was playing

639
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 1: at Austin City five nights a week. He had to

640
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: kind of hold the roost down there because I now

641
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,719
Speaker 1: was recording Life to Dance from Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and

642
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: then I would drive back and and Thursday, Friday and

643
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: Saturday I would sing it Awesome City, and so you know,

644
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: he was him and Tim and and Troy and all

645
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: on what Troy. I think Troy might actually had to

646
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: did it on gig at that point. But you know,

647
00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 1: then I would come in and you know, because I

648
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: still had to make a living. I mean, you know,

649
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: I was making a hundred fifty bucks a week, you know,

650
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,479
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't getting paid anything to record at that Yeah,

651
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:35,880
Speaker 1: and so anyway, I can't. I did that for you know,

652
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean a year. I did that for a year

653
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: because they had a big change over in the Atlantic

654
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: Records and Rick Blackburn ended up taking over the whole

655
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,960
Speaker 1: thing and the other guy left this and then we

656
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 1: changed producers. You know. Doug Johnson came into the picture,

657
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: and I think basically was the reason that I have

658
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,240
Speaker 1: a career today. I mean, he brought Life to Dance.

659
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: I love the way you loved me, uh beer and bones.

660
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: I mean, he he was very instrumental. I mean, he

661
00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 1: looked around because the guy left Atlantic was the guy

662
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: that's supposed to produce me, and once he left her,

663
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: I had found new producer. Right. Well, you talk about

664
00:35:17,560 --> 00:35:20,840
Speaker 1: last Dance, which was your first single, but I was

665
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 1: looking it up and you can correct me if I'm wrong.

666
00:35:23,239 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: And again, there are a few songs you have a

667
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 1: bunch of according to depending on which chart you like,

668
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: you have seven number one? How many do you think

669
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:33,239
Speaker 1: you have? How many do you claim because it's different wherever. Yeah, Well,

670
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:35,720
Speaker 1: on Billboard, I think it was fourteen or no Billboard

671
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: it was like seven. And then we had the other

672
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 1: one that everybody all the heck, what was it called, Well,

673
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:47,240
Speaker 1: let's just say eight, just for ourselves. I had fourteen

674
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 1: number one's on the other one, which is the one

675
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 1: that's the other one all Montgomery all the time that

676
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 1: chart there was Billboard and then there was bill Board

677
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: only went by what they you know, you couldn't call

678
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,440
Speaker 1: Billboard up in order the stations up and like a

679
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: media base, there was a Yeah, it was basically the

680
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: chart that Nashville used when all these stags they would

681
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,359
Speaker 1: call in and then they would add that's where they

682
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,400
Speaker 1: could call in and get ads for I cannot cannot believe,

683
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: I can't think of that name. It was. It was huge,

684
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: it was it was huge. It was as big as Billboard.

685
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: But it was basically what Nashville went by as a

686
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 1: number one. Not the public. Well let's go with fourteen

687
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 1: number one because all that's all the same to me.

688
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: So your first song, uh, Lives to Dance. All I

689
00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: did was like at the Billboard chart and I think

690
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 1: that's the song that I associate with you the most.

691
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: That and probably Grundy County Auction, but Lives to Dance

692
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: and Billboard it did not go number one, which was

693
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,359
Speaker 1: wild to think that that song, which is the song

694
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 1: that I associate you in my childhood with um. But

695
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: when that song hit, is that a song that got

696
00:36:56,960 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: bigger as time went on? Well, I just think it's like, uh,

697
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: first of all, I didn't want that song to come

698
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: out first. I wanted I Love the Way You Love

699
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: Me to come out first, because I was like, that's

700
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: a that's a love song. Did they say, no ballad,

701
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: no love song? Well they explained it to me. It's

702
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: like look and I was used to singing George Strait

703
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: Keith Wheel Life to Dance is a philosophical kind of

704
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,360
Speaker 1: song about I just never had really singing a songs

705
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:22,719
Speaker 1: like I didn't even know if I was good at

706
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 1: saying a song like that. But Doug Johnson said, hey,

707
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 1: this song is perfect for you and it's a perfect

708
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:29,600
Speaker 1: one to come out with, and I just was like, well,

709
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: we'll probably be lucky to break top forty with it,

710
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: you know. But hey, I mean, what do I know.

711
00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 1: I'm new, these guys know what they're doing, so let's

712
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: do it. You know, I like this song. I just

713
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: you know, I've gravitated towards the love song or the

714
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 1: good old hardcore country, you know, heartbreaking song. And so

715
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,120
Speaker 1: sure enough, broke top forty, top thirty. Took forever to

716
00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:50,919
Speaker 1: get up there, and it uh finally broke Top five,

717
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 1: went to the number four, and I mean, of course

718
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: I was thinking, wow, I got a top five, you know.

719
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 1: And but most people, just like with me and Bob

720
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,920
Speaker 1: Seeger and some old and uh people, can't believe how

721
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 1: many of those big rock bands had big hits but

722
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,919
Speaker 1: they didn't go No. Number one. Yeah, Errol said, didn't

723
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: have a number one until Armageddon the movie like I

724
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 1: love song way later, and they had so many massive songs,

725
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: massive hits that never went to number one, and you

726
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:23,960
Speaker 1: would think every one of those were number ones. And

727
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: I think Bob Seeger was kind of the same way.

728
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I mean he just I couldn't believe

729
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 1: that all those big hits he had wasn't number one hits,

730
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:33,880
Speaker 1: but they weren't. What's kind of the same way for

731
00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: Lives of Dance and Beering Bones and a few others.

732
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 1: They uh they some of them, you know, get obviously

733
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: better as time goes on, and they get bigger as

734
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: time goes on. And like, for instance, right now, when

735
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:52,320
Speaker 1: I go and do a show, Uh, in the nineties,

736
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: everybody wanted to come and hear me singing Lights of

737
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: Dance and I swear and the other the way he

738
00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 1: loved me and and uh um. But now everybody wants

739
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,520
Speaker 1: to come and hear me sing sold to Grundy County

740
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 1: Auction because that next generation that were a little bitty

741
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: kids when those songs were out are now going to

742
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: the bars and places and and going out, and they

743
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: want to come and hear me sing that song, you know,

744
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: And I mean it's actually bigger than I swear. It's

745
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: uh probably out all the numbers. It probably out performs

746
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: in every way too, I mean which I mean it's

747
00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:36,840
Speaker 1: I remember when I did Be My Baby Tonight Atlantic Records,

748
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: especially Rick, they went, that's a stupid song. We you're

749
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 1: gonna you don't you want that? I said that I

750
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: grew up listening to buck on ones and people like that.

751
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: I'd like, people love those kind of songs. And when

752
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,839
Speaker 1: Be my Baby Tonight went number one, I think one

753
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:57,919
Speaker 1: number one. Yeah, when I came out with the next

754
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 1: album and I had sold to Grundy County Auction there,

755
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,840
Speaker 1: Rick was like angle hearing nothing from me. I would

756
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: think that if you're playing a show and you know.

757
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,719
Speaker 1: We talked about the difference in number ones, but also

758
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: like career defining songs that you could just get up

759
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,000
Speaker 1: and go. When I was in the crowd, just sings

760
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 1: the rest of the whole they can sing the rest

761
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:23,080
Speaker 1: of the song. They I'm surprised at how uh popular

762
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 1: that song became. It still surprised me today. I didn't

763
00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:30,759
Speaker 1: realize how much uh it meant to a lot of

764
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 1: people out there that struggled in their life, had struggles

765
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 1: in their life, and you know, and I would, uh,

766
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: they'll I still do meet in Greeks, but I do

767
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:42,839
Speaker 1: a lot of meeting Greeks back in the nineties, and

768
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: the people that would come up and tell me their

769
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 1: personal stories. I mean, I was just like, oh, wow, well,

770
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, you don't realize how much when

771
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 1: you grow up singing other people's songs in the bar

772
00:40:56,800 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden you create your own.

773
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,280
Speaker 1: You don't realize how much they can mean in people's

774
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,319
Speaker 1: lives until you start getting the personal stories. And then

775
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 1: at that point I was like, wow, okay, I get

776
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: that song a lot more now than I did back then.

777
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: I love the Way you love Me the three week

778
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,640
Speaker 1: number one. This is your second single, right, so if

779
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: I'm right and you can correct me, Life to Dance

780
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: comes out first, and then I Love the Way It

781
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,480
Speaker 1: comes out second. Is that right? Yeah? Okay, let's play

782
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: a clip here for everybody. Everybody knows it, but just

783
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:40,680
Speaker 1: for my sake, you kind of got your way there.

784
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,279
Speaker 1: You have to put out your love song that you're

785
00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:45,239
Speaker 1: waiting on. Did you feel that after the success of

786
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: Life to Dance that that song like you you had

787
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: a great feeling about that. I was when that song

788
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 1: came out after the success of life to dance and

789
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: of course, uh, hearing Bob Kingsley say my name on

790
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,160
Speaker 1: the Top forty Countdown was probably the highlight of my

791
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: life back then. That was, you know, I loved that man,

792
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,360
Speaker 1: and and listening to that every weekend at Top forty Countdown.

793
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 1: And then when I Love the Way You Love Me

794
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: went number one. Uh. I was actually writing back. I

795
00:42:20,120 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: was back home on the Lake Harrington, back there with

796
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: some buddies and Frank Myers, who wrote co wrote, I

797
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 1: swear was right we were. He came up to write

798
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,000
Speaker 1: with me, and I finally told Frank. I said, you

799
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,759
Speaker 1: know we had a little cassette player. You know, we've

800
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,240
Speaker 1: put stuff down, I said, Frank, Bob Kingsley is about

801
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: to mention that I got the number one record on

802
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: American Country Countdown. He's like. I was like, I'm just

803
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:46,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to take a break. I ain't worth the

804
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 1: craft of being right, and I'll just be honest with you.

805
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,440
Speaker 1: He said, that's fine. He said, could you listen to

806
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 1: this song real quick? I think it's perfect for you.

807
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,399
Speaker 1: He said, I co wrote this a few years ago,

808
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,640
Speaker 1: and I can't get to get it pitched anymore. So

809
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,840
Speaker 1: I carried around with me and it was I swear

810
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:04,239
Speaker 1: and you pitched it to Scott Hendricks, who you know,

811
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 1: uh produced that album because I swear on it, and

812
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: I was like, I love it. And but when it

813
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: went number one, hearing Bob Kingsley say my name and

814
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 1: I had a number one record, I mean, it was

815
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: an incredible moment. I mean that was probably as big

816
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 1: as when I heard Life of Dance on the radio

817
00:43:26,200 --> 00:43:29,200
Speaker 1: station that would you know out on you randomly heard

818
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: it somewhere that wasn't home. Yeah, but I cheated on

819
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:33,759
Speaker 1: it because I was playing golf with one of the

820
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:38,319
Speaker 1: radio guys here and we got done playing golf and

821
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:39,920
Speaker 1: and he was like, he said, so, what did it

822
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,359
Speaker 1: feel like you here? You're strong on the radio. I said,

823
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: I haven't heard it yet. He went, it's like we

824
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: played all the time. I said, I don't live down

825
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: here a little bit Kentucky and uh, And I said,

826
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:50,759
Speaker 1: I haven't been able to catch it up there to either,

827
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:52,759
Speaker 1: And he goes, so he makes a phone call to

828
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: the guys that I got John Mic on the car

829
00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: played lots of dance. Next we're getting ready top and

830
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: have some wings and stuff and everything's so I mean,

831
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:03,879
Speaker 1: it was. It was a cool feeling. And after that,

832
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: it's like you know, when you buy a new car,

833
00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 1: you see the same car everybody's got one. After that,

834
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: hearing it everywhere, and but that's got to be cool.

835
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 1: Though it was, it's just it's it's everywhere. You probably

836
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: here at the grocery store, probably hear it in the car.

837
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 1: The craziest thing, even today, it's and I agree to you,

838
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:26,640
Speaker 1: other artists will tell you this. I can't tell you

839
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 1: how many times I've walked into a truck stop or

840
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:31,520
Speaker 1: I've walked into any of these other places that they're

841
00:44:31,560 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: playing the music on the speakers that one of my

842
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 1: songs are playing. I mean, and I know they're not

843
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: playing me seven it's just uh, it's just kind of

844
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: like wow, it's just I mean, I've walked into places.

845
00:44:44,080 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many times that happens, and

846
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 1: it's just the coincidence. It's the most well you when

847
00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 1: you have so many number one songs that were songs

848
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: of a generation. I mean, there's only so many songs

849
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: that I can hear and it assigns me back to

850
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 1: where I was at that time. And I'll lot of

851
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,800
Speaker 1: your music does that I mean, you mentioned I swear

852
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: and it started with you. But then I remember All

853
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: for One also singing it, you know, but it started

854
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: with you right like you had the song, you sing

855
00:45:11,160 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: the song. Did they approach you or they approach your

856
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 1: label or the wrong this? This is what happened with

857
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: that song. And you know, I had Rick Blackburn, he

858
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: you know, we he want to meet with me one day.

859
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: So I met with him and he was like, look,

860
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 1: he said, what do you think about going pop with

861
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:31,920
Speaker 1: the song? You going me? Going pop with it? Interesting?

862
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: And I just told him, I said, Rick, I don't

863
00:45:33,640 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: care anything about it. I'd like, I said, I'm I

864
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: don't want to be a pop singer. I'm like, um,

865
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 1: I think the song is definitely good enough to go pop.

866
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: But I'd said, just to be honest with you, I

867
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 1: just I'm happy with where I'm at. I want to

868
00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: be considered a country music singer and not a cross

869
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,799
Speaker 1: over any of that kind of stuff. And he said, well,

870
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: he said, I have to tell you there's another group open,

871
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 1: uh the Atlantic New York is going to put out

872
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:05,680
Speaker 1: or and b uh section that's they want to put

873
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 1: it out. And I was like, let him do it.

874
00:46:07,920 --> 00:46:10,040
Speaker 1: You know, and he's like, he said, well, I just

875
00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, talk to you about it first,

876
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: and obviously he I guess he just didn't want me

877
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 1: to be surprised. Were you happy? Were you unhappy that

878
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:23,400
Speaker 1: they were doing it? It was it so out of

879
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: your control that you were just like, you know, I

880
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: just I really felt like the song was was bigger

881
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: than me anyway. I thought it was just the song exploded.

882
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 1: I was like, Wow, this thing is huge. But I

883
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:39,640
Speaker 1: kind of felt like, you know, uh, the song deserves

884
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 1: to be heard by another genre or another you know.

885
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just that good. And I just wasn't

886
00:46:47,160 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: interested in being that person to go over and cross

887
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: over into the pop world with it and all that

888
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,799
Speaker 1: kind of stuff. I just, uh, you know, I just

889
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,399
Speaker 1: never did have any desires for that. And so when

890
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:01,000
Speaker 1: it came out, I was like was I was actually

891
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:03,239
Speaker 1: I kind of wanting to see how they did it.

892
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: You know, It's like, how are they going to do

893
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,920
Speaker 1: this differently, you know than I did, you know, and

894
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:11,640
Speaker 1: it's going not be a coffeecat or whatever. But they

895
00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:14,080
Speaker 1: pulled it off antly. You know, I'm gonna play a

896
00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 1: couple of clips. This is your version four weeks at

897
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: number one on the country chart. This thing sat number

898
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: one for a month, which is wild to think about.

899
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:28,239
Speaker 1: Here is I Swear, which this song again reminds me

900
00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: of being a young teenager and having nobody want to

901
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,759
Speaker 1: slow dance with me. That's what the song reminds me of, like,

902
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 1: all right, slow dance time. Not a single girl, not

903
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 1: a not a one. I know exactly where you're coming

904
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:46,480
Speaker 1: from me And here is all for One's version I Swear.

905
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,520
Speaker 1: But the crazy thing is it happened again because you

906
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: put out I Can Love You like that, and here's

907
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:04,239
Speaker 1: a clip of that a year later. It's only a

908
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,600
Speaker 1: year later. So was it the similar circumstance? No, completely different.

909
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 1: And it's funny because we were having a get together

910
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: at Rick Blackburn's home in the backyard and I ran

911
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: into one of the Awful One guys and a couple

912
00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 1: of them, Yeah, they had came to Rick place too,

913
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 1: and they were I forgot what the celebration was for. Uh,

914
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,000
Speaker 1: it was for us artists. But and all the big

915
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: New York guys were in town, l A guys were

916
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: in town everything. And I remember talking to the lead singer,

917
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:46,439
Speaker 1: you know, and we were just He was like, we're

918
00:48:46,440 --> 00:48:49,439
Speaker 1: talking about being a studio and I said yeah, I said,

919
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 1: I just cut another cutting, another big old ballot. I said,

920
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:56,480
Speaker 1: you guys order here. I said, it's He said really,

921
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 1: I said yeah, yeah. I said, yes, cal I can

922
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: love you like that. He went, We'll just finished that song.

923
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:06,239
Speaker 1: I went what They went, Yeah, we just finished that

924
00:49:06,280 --> 00:49:09,280
Speaker 1: song too. So what we figured out the publishing company

925
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: and I think the co writer was Steve Diamond on

926
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,960
Speaker 1: that song, I believe if I remember right. But anyway,

927
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,319
Speaker 1: they were like, hey, let's pitch this song to both

928
00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 1: of these guys at the same time. And there was

929
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: really no competition. I mean they had their side, I

930
00:49:24,560 --> 00:49:26,400
Speaker 1: had my side, and so we put it out the

931
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: same time and both songs, both both covers, were huge.

932
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: You know, did you guys ever performed together? We did? Uh?

933
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:42,919
Speaker 1: We performed once on the Grammys back in the probably yeah,

934
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: somewhere around in there. I remember I had a cold.

935
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: I shouldn't even been on been there, but I I

936
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: had to go with my first time, so I didn't.

937
00:49:52,239 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: I didn't sound that good when I did my part.

938
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: But well, you have fourteen number ones, I mean you

939
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,560
Speaker 1: have you have an entire set list of I'm gonna

940
00:49:59,600 --> 00:50:01,600
Speaker 1: roll through some of these just just for the sake.

941
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: I'm jealous. You have a sweet teat by the way.

942
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 1: I saw you drinking it, and I was like, dang,

943
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 1: I wish I had a sweet time right now. Um,

944
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 1: I Love the Way You love We touched on this

945
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:17,319
Speaker 1: one I Swear, as we mentioned, a four week number one,

946
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: another multi week number one be My Baby Tonight. But

947
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:31,200
Speaker 1: between this and sold to Grandy County Auction, that's a

948
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:34,600
Speaker 1: lot of words. I mean, you're you're constant with the words.

949
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: It's it's it's it's an easier song to sing than

950
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:39,560
Speaker 1: I Love the Way You Love Me because you don't

951
00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: think about it. You're just rambling wrapped to him and

952
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: boom boom boom, boom boom. Where when you're singing a

953
00:50:44,920 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: love song, it's it's a process. If you're you're, if

954
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:51,280
Speaker 1: you say so, it sounds like a lot of words

955
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: that you know, it sounds like a lot of words

956
00:50:53,239 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: you're trying. Yeah. But the thing about I Swear, which

957
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: uh it actually could have been number one long uh.

958
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:05,000
Speaker 1: At that time period, all the radio stations, the big

959
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:07,880
Speaker 1: p ones as we call them, had put a twelve

960
00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: week limit on songs period, not just the number one,

961
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 1: but period. Yeah, tol you twelve weeks on the charts,

962
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 1: and you were just going by by that's how much,

963
00:51:17,840 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: that's how popular the country music. And I mean it's

964
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:25,439
Speaker 1: forty weeks now, it's now nowadays. Yeah, And it's like

965
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: I was thinking this thing, could you know. I mean

966
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: because back in the day, in the fifties and sixties,

967
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:31,800
Speaker 1: and you had those guys, I mean, they'd be they'd

968
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: have a number one to last for six months, some

969
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 1: m old guys. And I was thinking, man, this song

970
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 1: could pull that off. And then all of a sudden,

971
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 1: the new rule was on a lot of these P

972
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: one stations. Uh, twelve weeks, uh, and we pull it.

973
00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:49,399
Speaker 1: We don't care how popular it is. And so they

974
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,840
Speaker 1: pulled I swear after the fourth week and being number

975
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 1: one a fourth week, twelve after the four weeks number one,

976
00:51:56,280 --> 00:51:58,319
Speaker 1: they pulled it, not because it couldn't have still been

977
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: number one. I was like, man, I say justice for John.

978
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: That's what I back on there. Man. I was I

979
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,720
Speaker 1: was gonna hope, hope, maybe eighty Arnold record or something.

980
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:23,440
Speaker 1: You know, if you've got love from I can love

981
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:29,399
Speaker 1: you like that, like that I sold the Grundy County

982
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: auction incident. Not didn't. Hey, pretty lady, want you to

983
00:52:32,600 --> 00:52:34,919
Speaker 1: give me a sign again? Anybody to make him out.

984
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: I never say incident. I'll be honest with you. Mostly

985
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 1: it's always Grundy County. Sometimes if I'm really feeling it,

986
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: I'll say sold to Grundy County auction. I never say incident.

987
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: To be honest with you. I forget that the incidents.

988
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm reading I wrote it down, but I

989
00:52:53,360 --> 00:52:56,879
Speaker 1: now be honest sold and yeah, you know. And then

990
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: I remember when I put that song out and I

991
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 1: did the video. There the director of the video producer

992
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: whatever you were calling me, he called me up. He

993
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: went he was trying to find a stockyard, you know.

994
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: And he was like, John, I cannot find a good

995
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,279
Speaker 1: stockyards are all made out of blocks and this and that.

996
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: And he's like, I want an old fashioned wooden style.

997
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,400
Speaker 1: You know where it? When that, I said, oh yeah,

998
00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:21,200
Speaker 1: I said Lancashire, Kentucky, just right up the road from me.

999
00:53:21,239 --> 00:53:23,480
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, I went to school there and everything.

1000
00:53:23,480 --> 00:53:25,839
Speaker 1: I used to walk by that place every day. I said,

1001
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,840
Speaker 1: it's a cool little stockyards. He goes in checks it

1002
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: out fall in love with it, and we do the

1003
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 1: video right there, and I had all these uh of

1004
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: course it's in Garrett County, Lancaster Is So I had

1005
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: all these people with the video going up. I can't

1006
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: believe you wrote that song and you didn't call it

1007
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 1: Garrett County instead of Grundy County. Where's Grunge County? I

1008
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:52,160
Speaker 1: was like, I said, look, I said, I didn't write

1009
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 1: the song. I just sang this song. I said, Uh,

1010
00:53:55,920 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: if I would have wrote the song, I would have

1011
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 1: figured out a way to make a Garrett County. But

1012
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,400
Speaker 1: I said, it's Grundy Onny Tennis, I think, but I'm

1013
00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 1: not sure. There's a lot of frint of counties up there.

1014
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: But I said, uh, but you know they they got

1015
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:11,000
Speaker 1: after me. They thought, well, I can't believe you're doing it.

1016
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: You're doing a song here in Gard County and you

1017
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: didn't even don't even mention two thousand, the Little Girl

1018
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:26,840
Speaker 1: number one, three weeks and the five just got worse

1019
00:54:27,200 --> 00:54:33,600
Speaker 1: every night. Behind there. You know, I'm looking at you here.

1020
00:54:33,719 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: Is it is your Kentucky blue? Is that what the

1021
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: vest is? Is it? Is it purposefully Kentucky blue? Or

1022
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:40,720
Speaker 1: is it just you just got a lot of blue. Well,

1023
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,600
Speaker 1: I do have a lot of blue, but the wife

1024
00:54:43,600 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 1: picked this out for me this morning. It's nice. It's

1025
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: a good job. Wait are you she in town? Yeah.

1026
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: So one of my friends is Travis, who is marrying

1027
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: your daughter, and so I hated that his team won

1028
00:54:56,640 --> 00:55:00,680
Speaker 1: last night Georgia. I can't you know what but I did.

1029
00:55:00,960 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: You're like every other SEC guy, you know, but more

1030
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,040
Speaker 1: times than not, they hate Alabama. You know, Alabama than Georgia.

1031
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 1: You know. I got a keyboard player from uh you know,

1032
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: he lives in Mount Julie, had a very of facts

1033
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 1: and he's from Louisiana, l s U. I mean, just uh,

1034
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,359
Speaker 1: you know, and just can't stand Alabama. Well I don't

1035
00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:25,239
Speaker 1: like I don't like either one of them. But I

1036
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:27,040
Speaker 1: did bet on Alabama. So I was a little upset

1037
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 1: that they lost last night. Well when you got a

1038
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: little money on it, yeah, and George has had it

1039
00:55:31,000 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: too good. Then the spreads the only thing you're pulling

1040
00:55:32,840 --> 00:55:35,760
Speaker 1: forth and I thought that we gotta cover three points.

1041
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 1: But Georgia one like the Braves won the World Series

1042
00:55:39,800 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: and then the Bulldogs won the National Championship. Travis had

1043
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:44,760
Speaker 1: it too good. He got engaged, like life's going too different.

1044
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: Just hopefully they'll finally quit crying about losing to Alabama

1045
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: and you know and all that. Oh my god. You

1046
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,920
Speaker 1: well you were at his place last night. Yeah, you

1047
00:55:56,920 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: gotta stayed there. And what was that like during the game?

1048
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: Was he pretty intense? Let me tell you something. You people,

1049
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: they know if when you grow up in Georgia, you

1050
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 1: are brought up specifically mainly on Georgia football, and I mean, uh,

1051
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: that's where he was. I mean he just absolutely standing up,

1052
00:56:18,719 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 1: can't sit down. I mean he's cussing the refs. I

1053
00:56:21,640 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 1: mean he's cussing me about the refs Twitter last night

1054
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,440
Speaker 1: in the game. I mean he's like, you might as

1055
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: well just might as well just quit now and just

1056
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:31,160
Speaker 1: if you're gonna call it like you know what I

1057
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,560
Speaker 1: mean he was. He was more entertaining than the game.

1058
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: Was it time? Actually? But you know, I got a

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00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 1: lot of Georgia friends, a lot of talented people from Georgia.

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00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:42,360
Speaker 1: You're in Nashville and everything, obviously, so my son Walker

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00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: and Travis. I mean it's like when you come to Nashville,

1062
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: it's like Georgia's everywhere, you know, So they get to

1063
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,000
Speaker 1: hear about Georgia all the time and the dogs and

1064
00:56:56,000 --> 00:56:58,880
Speaker 1: and everything, you know, so we need more Arkansas here,

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00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,920
Speaker 1: les U. One of my dearest friends is Matt Jones,

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00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: who does Kentucky sports radio. Yeah, and he won. Everything

1067
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,480
Speaker 1: he writes is about Kentucky all the time, and I'm like,

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00:57:07,560 --> 00:57:09,319
Speaker 1: dude's top because that's my career and my guy. That's

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00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 1: a good point. That's a good point. Well, he does

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00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: a great job at and he's you know, he's got

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00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: it going pretty good up there now. And he uh

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00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:20,320
Speaker 1: uh he knocks a far out of golf ball too.

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00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: I mean he but he's yeah, you know Kentucky. I did. Yeah,

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00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:29,640
Speaker 1: we played in the first year they had the I'm

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00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: a Members of champions Trace, which now holds that yearly

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00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: golf p g A event the barber Stall, and it's

1077
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: usually held during the the the Open Championship, but they

1078
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: moved it a week ahead this time, so it's actually

1079
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: going to whoever wins that gets to go to the Open.

1080
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: So it's become really important now. But first year they

1081
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: had it, uh me and him, Tubby Smith, a couple

1082
00:57:53,600 --> 00:57:55,720
Speaker 1: of other guys were on the same team together and

1083
00:57:55,760 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: we tied. We had we lost in a card playoff. Okay,

1084
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:03,760
Speaker 1: we shot, I forget what it was under We lost

1085
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 1: to a card playoff to the number one sponsor of classics,

1086
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 1: Ye Classics. So no no questioning about that at all,

1087
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:17,600
Speaker 1: you know, no conspiracy theories there. I'll keep minding for you.

1088
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: You don't have to say, I have mine for you.

1089
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 1: You know. But I was talking to Luke Bryan, who's

1090
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: also a Georgia guy, and I was talking about the game,

1091
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: and He's like, I feel like I've been in a

1092
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: prize fight. He goes, it was so emotional. It is

1093
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: physically I'm tired. I feel like I've been boxing twelve rounds. Well,

1094
00:58:33,360 --> 00:58:37,200
Speaker 1: i'll tell you what. You know. Our coach, coach Tuops.

1095
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,960
Speaker 1: I mean I played golf with him too, and he's

1096
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: you know, coach Tuops. I know him. Well, he's a

1097
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:48,400
Speaker 1: great guy. But you're glad he didn't leave, huh. You know.

1098
00:58:48,560 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 1: But I mean he has been so good for Kentucky

1099
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:55,360
Speaker 1: football because I'm a clauset. I mean, everybody loves basketball

1100
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,560
Speaker 1: up there, but I've always loved college football better than

1101
00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 1: anything in the world. He has done a remarkable job.

1102
00:59:03,320 --> 00:59:05,920
Speaker 1: And uh, but we we've we've played some rounds together

1103
00:59:06,080 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: and just an enjoyable guy. But he's fiery. I mean

1104
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 1: he you know, and he has turned Kentucky around into

1105
00:59:13,880 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 1: when they have close games where they usually lost, like

1106
00:59:17,080 --> 00:59:21,200
Speaker 1: how how mommy would play close we wouldn't win. Yeah,

1107
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:27,720
Speaker 1: and that's been we call it the coach Uh. It's

1108
00:59:27,720 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: a curse from when we had Joker Phillips. No no,

1109
00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: no uh. Back when in the fifties we had Paul

1110
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:41,120
Speaker 1: Bear Bryant and he went Levin and Old even beat Oklahoma.

1111
00:59:41,240 --> 00:59:44,120
Speaker 1: They had already made named Oklahoma the championships, so it

1112
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: didn't matter. But we beat Oklahoma in the Bowl game

1113
00:59:47,280 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: back then, and the rumor is of the UK basketball

1114
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: won a national championship. They gave Rup a brand new

1115
00:59:55,720 --> 01:00:00,720
Speaker 1: Cadillac and they gave Paul coach Bryant h a little

1116
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:04,360
Speaker 1: watch and he said see y'all later by And so

1117
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:08,760
Speaker 1: we've been cursed ever since. Well I think Mark coach

1118
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,200
Speaker 1: Stoops has have finally lifted that curse. We beat Tennessee

1119
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:17,200
Speaker 1: in Florida and all that over, you know, And I

1120
01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: mean we love you know well, you know how it

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01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: is you look SEC grow up SEC. You know, we

1122
01:00:24,440 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: love to see SEC teams do great. We think it's

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01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,200
Speaker 1: the best, you know, in the world. Arkansas is starting

1124
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,960
Speaker 1: to show some signs of we won nine games, you know,

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01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 1: I mean they gave didn't they give Alabama pretty good

1126
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:39,800
Speaker 1: game right at the very end. I think that they

1127
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: gave them the best game all year. So that was, uh,

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01:00:44,560 --> 01:00:46,880
Speaker 1: you know, that's a good sign. I mean. Now, now

1129
01:00:46,960 --> 01:00:49,960
Speaker 1: we're getting in Texas and Oklahoma coming at some point,

1130
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: at some point, some point, you know, and so it's uh,

1131
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:56,040
Speaker 1: it's they're about to get rid of awakening Texas and

1132
01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:59,360
Speaker 1: Oklahoma are They're coming into a whole different Welcome to big,

1133
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:02,560
Speaker 1: big boys. Yeah, I mean, you know, the bottom line is,

1134
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just there's no doubt about it. If

1135
01:01:05,760 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 1: you look in the NFL, the amount of SEC players

1136
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 1: it's in the NFL, it's just I mean, there that's worth.

1137
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a it's a it's a very talented,

1138
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: very talented what do you call a conference? This has

1139
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 1: been Sports Talk with John Michael, Bobby coming at your

1140
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: quarter past every hour. We'll get the weather next. Well, listen,

1141
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 1: I I appreciate you coming by. Oh absolutely, man. I

1142
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 1: always just a big fan of yours. I appreciate that man,

1143
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: thank you. I'm you know, I'm trying to not I'm

1144
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: trying to um keep keeping the aging, you know, stay

1145
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: from catching up with me so fast. I'm losing ground

1146
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: a little bit, you know, getting ready turn fifty seven.

1147
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:54,000
Speaker 1: We don't. I don't think you gain ground on that though.

1148
01:01:54,040 --> 01:01:56,560
Speaker 1: I think that's something that you just lose ground and

1149
01:01:56,600 --> 01:01:59,640
Speaker 1: you accepted or you don't. Yeah, I'm kind of unfortunately,

1150
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 1: kind of having to accept that, I guess. But uh,

1151
01:02:03,400 --> 01:02:06,680
Speaker 1: I'm enjoying life, you know. I mean, it's gone by fast,

1152
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,240
Speaker 1: I can't. You know, it's hard to believe, Well, this

1153
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,200
Speaker 1: year is my thirtieth year out on the road. When

1154
01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 1: I think Life of Dance came out in September of

1155
01:02:14,600 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: n it's hard to believe that that's been thirty years ago.

1156
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just like wow, Okay. And then of

1157
01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: course I've got two kids that are one's getting married

1158
01:02:24,560 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: and the other ones you know, down here writing songs

1159
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,160
Speaker 1: and this and that and trying to make a living

1160
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: in a music business too. And I mean it's just

1161
01:02:31,720 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 1: like it's just unbelievable how fast it goes to buy. So,

1162
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: you know, I enjoy get to be once in a while.

1163
01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 1: Tell my story and I appreciate you allowing me come

1164
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: on and do that. Are you kidding big fans? Let's

1165
01:02:42,320 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 1: go over to read who gets one awkward question at

1166
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: the end of every interview? Read our video? Guy, what

1167
01:02:46,200 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 1: is your one question? Alright? I can't prepared this time.

1168
01:02:48,800 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 1: Oh no, alright, now just one question? Um, who are

1169
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 1: some of your musical like inspirations? Growing up? Well, I

1170
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:01,640
Speaker 1: mean I grew up my dad. Obviously I watched him

1171
01:03:01,680 --> 01:03:04,840
Speaker 1: on stage. He was a great entertainer. But listening to

1172
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 1: the radio all the time, you know, I mean it

1173
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:10,920
Speaker 1: was no doubt George Straight, loved George Straight when he

1174
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: came out and I think it was seventy nine. Alabama

1175
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:17,920
Speaker 1: came out around in seventy nine and eighty. Uh. Lionel

1176
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:22,920
Speaker 1: Richie obviously, I mean I wore his cassette tapes out.

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01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:27,320
Speaker 1: I mean I said, cassette tapes, that's correct, we had

1178
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:32,360
Speaker 1: and uh and of course loved Journey and loved the Eagles.

1179
01:03:32,800 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: Uh uh, you know Bob Seegars. I mean, I just

1180
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,600
Speaker 1: I grew up in an era which I think you know,

1181
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: from the seventies and eighties that was just absolutely incredibly

1182
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 1: rich with just all this incredible music. And and now

1183
01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: I hear it a lot on commercials and stuff. You

1184
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 1: hear these seventies and eighties big hits from that day.

1185
01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,960
Speaker 1: They're using it to get people to buy the product.

1186
01:03:59,080 --> 01:04:01,919
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, there's a reason why that music

1187
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:05,880
Speaker 1: was that good. It had me too, I mean I

1188
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 1: loved it, and I just feel like, you know, no

1189
01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: doubt about it. I mean it, Uh, it really helped

1190
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: me when I became I had to go in the

1191
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:17,520
Speaker 1: studio for the first time to see if I even

1192
01:04:17,600 --> 01:04:20,160
Speaker 1: knew how to sing or and cut a song. I

1193
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:22,880
Speaker 1: never recorded anything in my life, and I up, they're

1194
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:24,760
Speaker 1: seeing less of dance. And I heard myself back on

1195
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:28,200
Speaker 1: these speakers. I'm going, I look at producer, I'm going,

1196
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: is that any good? Do I sound like that? Did you?

1197
01:04:34,600 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: Did you play by ear? Just by ear? I mean

1198
01:04:38,920 --> 01:04:41,840
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a piano player. I loved piano,

1199
01:04:42,040 --> 01:04:46,400
Speaker 1: and I went and got some lessons. But you know,

1200
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: we moved around a lot. Moving the piano was not easy.

1201
01:04:49,480 --> 01:04:54,200
Speaker 1: So uh we had we had no old brown log

1202
01:04:54,360 --> 01:04:58,840
Speaker 1: stove and it was heavy and that was about the uh.

1203
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: It took up the place for a piano to keep us.

1204
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,080
Speaker 1: Dad carried that thing around everywhere we went. You know,

1205
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 1: you know we we had we lived in a double

1206
01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:13,080
Speaker 1: wide and this two hundred fifty pound old cold burning

1207
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: so we put in this double wide. I don't know

1208
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: how we didn't burn the plate, but anyway, Now you

1209
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 1: know those guys, uh, I just wore out their cassette tapes.

1210
01:05:24,880 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: I mean just loved it. And I remember getting you know,

1211
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: the greatest hits the Eagles came out with the first

1212
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,560
Speaker 1: time and all that stuff. And when I'm in the car,

1213
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: my pickup truck today, if I listened to the radio,

1214
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,320
Speaker 1: listened to my old classic favorites, I just love that's

1215
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,320
Speaker 1: what you meant to say. That says that wrong. Yeah,

1216
01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: you you mispronounced my name and you said old classic

1217
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: favorites when you're supposed to say Bobby Bones show. But okay, whatever,

1218
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: you just didn't say an accent. It's probably accent. Yeah,

1219
01:05:55,160 --> 01:05:57,960
Speaker 1: I get that a lot. Hey, John Michael, thank appreciated man,

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01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:59,800
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. Just a real treat. And you

1221
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:03,800
Speaker 1: guys can follow uh John Michael Montgomery on Instagram. I

1222
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:06,200
Speaker 1: don't know often you're actually posting stuff yourself, but I'm

1223
01:06:06,200 --> 01:06:08,400
Speaker 1: gonna say it's you all the time. My wife is

1224
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,640
Speaker 1: she's got my back on this, you know. So the

1225
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: brother got my back, my wife's got my back or

1226
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: got you got two backs, that's not true. You have

1227
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,560
Speaker 1: a back in the front. You got their soar backs.

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Speaker 1: John Michael Montgomery, Hey, great to see you. Thank you.