WEBVTT - Don't Get Phished, Flight Booking Hacks & Phone Roaming Advice

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<v Speaker 1>The tech world is going nuts over a new chat

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<v Speaker 1>GPT feature that can edit images like never before. Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>is bringing back the Friends Feed. A security expert falls

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<v Speaker 1>for a scam and he's not the only one. Plus

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<v Speaker 1>your tech questions answered? What's going on on rich dmiro

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<v Speaker 1>And this is Rich on Tech. This is the show

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<v Speaker 1>where I talk about the tech stuff I think you

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<v Speaker 1>should know about. It's also the place where I answer

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<v Speaker 1>your questions about technology. I believe that tech should be interesting, useful,

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<v Speaker 1>and fun. Let's open up those phone lines at triple

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<v Speaker 1>eight Rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight seven

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<v Speaker 1>four to two four one zero one. Give me a

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<v Speaker 1>call if you have a question about technology. Email is

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<v Speaker 1>also open. Just go to richon tech dot tv and

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<v Speaker 1>hit contact. We've got some great guests this week. Colin Walkee,

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<v Speaker 1>a cybersecurity and data privacy expert, will join us to

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<v Speaker 1>explain what twenty three in mes bankruptcy means for your

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<v Speaker 1>genetic data, plus what you can do to protect your

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<v Speaker 1>privacy and Later in the show, Mark Vina is a

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<v Speaker 1>CEO and principal analyst at Smart Tech Research. He's going

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<v Speaker 1>to share why he ditched the iPhone Yes to switch

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<v Speaker 1>to the Galaxy S twenty five Ultra, and he's been

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<v Speaker 1>using the iPhone for a very long time. Well, speaking

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<v Speaker 1>of a very long time, I did something this week

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<v Speaker 1>that I have not done in a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a letter and sent it through the post office.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I probably sent one hundred and fifty emails this week,

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<v Speaker 1>but a letter that does not happen very often. I

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<v Speaker 1>took pen to paper and I sat there at a

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<v Speaker 1>desk and I actually used my horrific handwriting to write

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<v Speaker 1>a letter to my dad. I was staying at a

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<v Speaker 1>hotel and they had this inviting desk. It was an

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<v Speaker 1>old school desk, and it had one of those nice

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<v Speaker 1>writing mats, you know, the kind that you like the

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<v Speaker 1>pen kind of sinks into it a little bit as

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<v Speaker 1>you write, and they had the letter letterhead all laid

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<v Speaker 1>out there with an envelope, and I said, you know what,

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to write a letter. We were staying

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<v Speaker 1>at a place called the fest Parker Inn, which my

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<v Speaker 1>dad is a big fan of fest Parker. Now it's

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit before my time, but as I understand,

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<v Speaker 1>he was a very famous actor back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know you're probably laughing at me saying rich.

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<v Speaker 1>Come on, we know who fest Parker is. But you

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<v Speaker 1>know that was a little bit before my time. And

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<v Speaker 1>so I said, I got to write a letter to

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<v Speaker 1>my dad on Fest Parker letterhead, tell him how the

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<v Speaker 1>inn still had all the inklings of Fest Parker lingering

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<v Speaker 1>in the hallways, and of course telling about our weekend

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<v Speaker 1>we spent up in Wine Country for my wife's birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>And then I went to the post office the tiny

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<v Speaker 1>little town we were in called Losa Livos. I stood

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<v Speaker 1>in line and I bought a stamp. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>that stamp was seventy three cents. Now I know why

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<v Speaker 1>people don't write letters as much, because that is expensive.

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<v Speaker 1>But I got the stamp, I put it on the letter,

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<v Speaker 1>I sent it out, and I still haven't heard from

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<v Speaker 1>my dad if he got it, but I hope he did.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious how long it takes to get a letter

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<v Speaker 1>these days. Anyway, it was kind of fun. And you know,

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<v Speaker 1>me as someone who loves tech, but I think I've

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<v Speaker 1>realized something about myself. I also love low tech, and

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<v Speaker 1>I also love how tech helps us unlock things in

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<v Speaker 1>our world. So as much as I love technology, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of fun to go back to the times

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<v Speaker 1>when we were not connected in a bazillion different ways. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the other lesson I have this week is that tech

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<v Speaker 1>is only as secure as the people using it, namely us.

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<v Speaker 1>So let me tell you about a guy who knows

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<v Speaker 1>security like This guy has been on our show, Troy Hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>He runs a website called Have I Been Poned? That's

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<v Speaker 1>pwned dot com. You basically pop in your email address,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll tell you all the places your information has gotten

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<v Speaker 1>hacked and is out there in the world. He also

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<v Speaker 1>teaches people how to avoid scams. That's what he talked

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<v Speaker 1>about on our very show. And guess what he got

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<v Speaker 1>phished this week. If you're not familiar with what phishing is,

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<v Speaker 1>it's when you get one of those emails and it says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>click here, your account has been compromised. Click there, You

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<v Speaker 1>type in your name your password, and you realize shortly after,

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<v Speaker 1>oh no, what did I just do?

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<v Speaker 2>I just handed over my information to the bad guys.

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<v Speaker 1>So he got an email that looked like it was

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<v Speaker 1>from Mailchimp, which is his newsletter provider. He said his

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<v Speaker 1>account was suspended because of a spam complaint. He clicked

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<v Speaker 1>the link, he entered his credentials and even the one

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<v Speaker 1>time passcode. So we even had his account protected with

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<v Speaker 1>that two factor authentication, and he realized instantly it was

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<v Speaker 1>a fake site. The hackers immediately went to work. They

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<v Speaker 1>took his entire email list sixteen thousand plus addresses, they

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<v Speaker 1>exported it, and of course those are probably going to

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<v Speaker 1>be used to spam those folks. He realized what he

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<v Speaker 1>did was wrong immediately, but the damage was already done

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<v Speaker 1>and the red flag he mentioned. He detailed all of

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<v Speaker 1>this in his blog post about it. His password manager

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<v Speaker 1>which he was using, so he had a good password,

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<v Speaker 1>he had two factor authentication, but as a human, he

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<v Speaker 1>bypassed all of those those privacy and protections. His password

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<v Speaker 1>manager did not auto fill the website, but he ignored it.

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<v Speaker 1>He just did it himself. He copied and pasted his

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<v Speaker 1>password into there. Why he said, jet Lag, You know,

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<v Speaker 1>all this stuff can't beat the human error that we

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<v Speaker 1>bring to the table.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what happened with him.

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<v Speaker 1>Just as I sat down to write my newsletter yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>I got an email from Microsoft saying, hey, we noticed

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<v Speaker 1>some suspicious login activity on your account. Click here to

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<v Speaker 1>confirm it. I said, suspicious log in activity what are

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<v Speaker 1>you talking about? Microsoft? And they wanted me to click

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<v Speaker 1>that link that took me to this area that would

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<v Speaker 1>let me check to see the recent logins on my account.

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<v Speaker 2>And I said, no, not so fast. I'm not going

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<v Speaker 2>to that page.

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<v Speaker 1>So I googled the Microsoft Account Suspicious login page, which

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<v Speaker 1>is account dot live dot com slash activity. I went

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<v Speaker 1>there directly, I logged in and I said, we want

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<v Speaker 1>to confirm this is you, and I confirmed it was me,

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<v Speaker 1>and sure enough, I look at that page and guess what.

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<v Speaker 1>I see a laundry list of bogus logins from all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world. And I pasted this into my newsletter

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<v Speaker 1>this week. United Kingdom, South Africa, Brazil, Columbia, Ukraine, France, Pakistan, Cutter, Venezuela. No,

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<v Speaker 1>these are not stamps on my passport. These are the

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<v Speaker 1>places that were trying to log into my Microsoft account

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<v Speaker 1>all weekend long. They didn't get in because I had

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<v Speaker 1>two factor authentication enabled on my account, so I did

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<v Speaker 1>change my login. I guess somehow my password was compromised

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere along the way. But again, I'm not the only one.

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<v Speaker 1>So many people and Troy, by the way, now, I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't fall for it, but Troy did, He's not the

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<v Speaker 1>only one. According to the FTC twenty twenty four, so

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<v Speaker 1>I record twelve point five billion dollars in scam losses.

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<v Speaker 1>That's up two point five billion from the year before.

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<v Speaker 1>One in three people who reported scams said they lost money.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember the guy we had on last week, Colin said

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<v Speaker 1>he fell victim to one of those tech scams. Scams

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<v Speaker 1>that start online cost US three billion dollars, more than

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<v Speaker 1>phone calls, more than texts, more than emails combined. The

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<v Speaker 1>most money per person phone scams median loss fifteen hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>Biggest overall losses bank transfers, followed by crypto Yes, people

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<v Speaker 1>are transferring money or having money transferred out of their

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<v Speaker 1>bank accounts. This is happening all the time. Investment scams

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<v Speaker 1>are the worst. Seventy nine percent of people targeted loss

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<v Speaker 1>money nine thousand dollars median loss there. Job scams. How

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<v Speaker 1>many times have you gotten those job scams to your text?

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<v Speaker 1>And you say who falls for these things? I get

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<v Speaker 1>them every single day. Hey, we have a job opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>for you. Losses there jump from ninety million to over

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred million in the past four years. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking people fall for these scams all the time, younger people.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the thing, There is a disconnect. Younger people

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<v Speaker 1>fall for scams more often, according to the FTC, but

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<v Speaker 1>seniors lose the most money when they fall to the scams.

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<v Speaker 1>Why is that seniors have the most to lose. They've

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<v Speaker 1>saved up money their entire lives, or at least some

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<v Speaker 1>of them have. Young people fall for these scams. People

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<v Speaker 1>think young people don't fall for this stuff. Yes they do.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the young people and the old people, the people

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle. You know, they've kind of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're the people that are a little bit more aware

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<v Speaker 1>of this stuff. They don't fall for it as often. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>imagine this. You've got a super secure app, a messaging app.

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<v Speaker 1>It's end to end ENCRYPTID. You think you're doing the

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<v Speaker 1>right thing. It's recommended by privacy privacy experts. Yes, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>talking about Signal. You think that's safe and secure, Well

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<v Speaker 1>it is unless you add the wrong person to the

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<v Speaker 1>group chat. How many times have you texted someone quickly

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<v Speaker 1>responded to a text quickly and you realize, oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the wrong person. We've all done it. We're human again,

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<v Speaker 1>we are all human, but not when the stakes are

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<v Speaker 1>this high. You heard the story. I don't have to

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<v Speaker 1>go over it. The government officials using Signal reportedly for

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<v Speaker 1>war planning. They added a journalist accidentally to the group.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I get it. We've all done this. We've added

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<v Speaker 1>accidental people to a group text, we've applied to a

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<v Speaker 1>group text, we've added people to a group email that

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<v Speaker 1>maybe shouldn't be on there. So when you think about

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<v Speaker 1>this Signal app, it is very secure. In fact, most

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<v Speaker 1>security experts recommend that you use Signal if you want

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<v Speaker 1>the most secure messaging. It's one of only two apps

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<v Speaker 1>that I know that end to end encrypt messages by default.

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<v Speaker 1>The other is WhatsApp. Now, WhatsApp brings a laundry list

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<v Speaker 1>of issues with it because it's owned by Meta Right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that has its whole issues with privacy and security.

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<v Speaker 1>But Signal, this is an independent app, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>no hacking here, There's no breach. Someone put in a

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<v Speaker 1>bad contact. Now here's the thing. This is not supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be on government devices. They don't allow Signal. But again,

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<v Speaker 1>think about you at your work. How many regulations and

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<v Speaker 1>rules do you have at your work about what you

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<v Speaker 1>can use and what you can't use Oh we want

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<v Speaker 1>you to use teams, but you probably text folks at

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<v Speaker 1>your work using I message, Oh we want you to

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<v Speaker 1>use Google Drive. Well, maybe you uploaded something to Dropbox

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<v Speaker 1>and shared a link. We are human and this is

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<v Speaker 1>where the mistakes happen, human error. So be careful, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's phishing, whether it's scams, whether it's military level messaging.

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<v Speaker 1>Technology can only go so far to protect us. The

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<v Speaker 1>weakest link isn't always the software. Most of the time

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<v Speaker 1>it is us, So stay skeptical, double check everything, use

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<v Speaker 1>a password manager, and if something fills off even for

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<v Speaker 1>a second, you have to slow down, take a breath,

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<v Speaker 1>double check, don't click, make sure what you're doing is

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<v Speaker 1>the right thing. That is how we get taken in

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<v Speaker 1>this day and age. I get emails every day from

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<v Speaker 1>folks saying I got hacked on Facebook. Ninety nine percent

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<v Speaker 1>of the time it is some sort of mistake they

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<v Speaker 1>made on their account. They fell for something, they click something.

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<v Speaker 1>Be careful, all right? Coming up Facebook brings back the

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<v Speaker 1>friend feed and your calls At triple eight Rich one

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<v Speaker 1>O one eight eight eight seven four to two four one

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<v Speaker 1>zero one. You are listening to Rich on Tech Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out

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<v Speaker 1>with you talking technology at Triple A Rich one O one.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go there for the show notes. This is

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<v Speaker 1>episode one hundred and fifteen. You can get links to

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<v Speaker 1>anything I talk about right there. And if you're not

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<v Speaker 1>signed up for my newsletter, go ahead pop in your

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<v Speaker 1>email address. It comes out every weekend filled with all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of tech tips and tricks and reviews and the

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<v Speaker 1>stories I do on TV. Let's go to Susan in

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<v Speaker 1>Santa Monica. Susan, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 3>I Rich, thank you, and you are wonderful. And the

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<v Speaker 3>woman that answers the phone, she's absolutely wonderful too.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you. It's Kim and she is awesome, and so

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<v Speaker 2>is Bobo. Wonderful. We've got a wonderful crew here.

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<v Speaker 3>You certainly do.

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<v Speaker 2>What can I help you with?

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So I have an elderly friend, quite elderly. He'd

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<v Speaker 3>like to get the he wants the computer. I'd like

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<v Speaker 3>to get it at costco. It has to have a

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<v Speaker 3>good customer service on the phone, because nobody's available. He

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't want anybody to help him. It's got to be

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<v Speaker 3>really easy. He's never used a computer, he's got no email,

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<v Speaker 3>doesn't want it, no financials on there. He just wants

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<v Speaker 3>to be able to get on the internet like podcasts, research, whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Money's not an issue. But and he hates his iPhone.

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<v Speaker 3>It's way too much for him. And he doesn't want

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<v Speaker 3>the iPhone to be talking to the computer. Exfinity is

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<v Speaker 3>his internet provider.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well I was going to recommend I think the

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<v Speaker 1>best customer service is Apple for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Does he not want a MacBook?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean he's not going to be talking to

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<v Speaker 3>his phone.

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<v Speaker 1>It does, okay, so you can make sure it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>But yes it does. You know, there are some synergies there,

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<v Speaker 1>but you can turn those off, so if you don't

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<v Speaker 1>want that to happen, you don't need it to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>But as he gets a little bit better with the computer,

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<v Speaker 1>he may enjoy that. But I think that the beauty

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<v Speaker 1>of Apple is that he can bring it in to

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<v Speaker 1>the Apple store if he if he ever needs help,

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<v Speaker 1>and they will walk him through whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Can them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh absolutely, you can call them too, So they've got

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<v Speaker 1>great customer service.

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<v Speaker 2>Great.

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<v Speaker 3>Customers call them for the iPhone, Oh won't they're not

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<v Speaker 3>very good?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I mean they're the best, so I mean other

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<v Speaker 1>than I mean, after that, it's going to fall off

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<v Speaker 1>pretty quickly. I mean there are some other you know,

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<v Speaker 1>manufacturers like Lenovo that are known for having good customer

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<v Speaker 1>service as well, but they're definitely not going to be

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<v Speaker 1>as good as Apple. So I would say, look, I

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<v Speaker 1>think when you go to Costco, they only stock a

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<v Speaker 1>few computers, so I would steer towards the MacBook Air.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's going to be the absolute cream of

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<v Speaker 1>the crop for him. The thing about the MacBook Air

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<v Speaker 1>is it's going to last for him ten years, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna have to worry about a new computer

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<v Speaker 1>for a long time.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>If he gets another computer, write down these specs. But

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<v Speaker 1>I would recommend any computer there that you know, if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you see the laptops there, does.

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<v Speaker 2>He need a laptop?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a laptop all right?

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<v Speaker 1>So if he needs a laptop, I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they only stock a few of him. Stay away from

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<v Speaker 1>the gaming laptops. He does not need that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would say an Intel Core I five or an AMD

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<v Speaker 1>rise in five, So those are the Those are the

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<v Speaker 1>processors that you want. Then you want sixteen gigs of memory,

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<v Speaker 1>that's the RAM, and then you want for the hard

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<v Speaker 1>drive at least a five twelve a one terabyte would

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<v Speaker 1>be the best. And then graphics I wouldn't really worry about.

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<v Speaker 1>If he's just doing you know, web searches and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that, integrated graphics are going to be just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>So and of course you want you know, the Windows.

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<v Speaker 1>The latest Windows is Windows eleven. I think most of

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<v Speaker 1>the computers come with that at this point. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>I I'd stick towards the Apple MacBook Air for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's gonna be his best choice. After that,

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<v Speaker 1>I would just look at one of the computers there

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<v Speaker 1>the you know that they sell, and I think they're

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<v Speaker 1>all gonna be a great value. And usually at costco

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<v Speaker 1>you get a little bit more for your money than

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<v Speaker 1>you would anywhere else. But I think when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to calling tech support, you know, you got to stick

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<v Speaker 1>with the big brands. So I think, you know, Dell

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<v Speaker 1>has good tech support. I do like as US as well. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>those are the main companies in Lenovo, Like I mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>so anyone that's doing business PCs like a Dell or

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<v Speaker 1>a Lenovo. You know you're gonna get pretty good customer

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<v Speaker 1>support because that's part of their game. Thanks for the call, Susan.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully he finds a nice computer he likes.

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<v Speaker 4>There.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you about Facebook before we go to

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<v Speaker 1>break here. Facebook is bringing back the friends only feed.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how it all started, and now they're realizing

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<v Speaker 1>people are sick of all the nonsense on Facebook that

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<v Speaker 1>they're encountering on a daily basis, all the influencers, the brands,

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<v Speaker 1>the AI driven slop. So now they're going to add

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<v Speaker 1>this new friends to to the Facebook app, and this

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<v Speaker 1>will be a dedicated feed with posts only from friends

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<v Speaker 1>and family. That means you can see their photos, their videos,

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<v Speaker 1>their birthdays, their friends requests. This is rolling out right now.

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<v Speaker 1>This is going to replace the old tab that showed

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<v Speaker 1>your friend requests. That'll still be there somewhere else, but

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a little bit more hidden than before. So

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<v Speaker 1>I tried finding this on my Facebook app. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>there just yet, but if you tap the little friends

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<v Speaker 1>right now, it just shows your friend requests. Soon that

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<v Speaker 1>will show a feed of just stuff from your friends.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what it's all about. Engagement. People are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of getting sick of all this nonsense that's populating their feeds.

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<v Speaker 1>So if they can make social media feel social again,

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<v Speaker 1>that I think will be a good thing because people

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<v Speaker 1>want that. We want more of our friends in our lives,

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<v Speaker 1>less of this nonsense from AI, which, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>I've been sharing a ton of because shat GBT is

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<v Speaker 1>doing this great new thing with the photos. I will

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about that when we come back. Eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>to eight rich one oh one eight eight seven four

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<v Speaker 1>to two, four to one zero one. More of your

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<v Speaker 1>calls right here on rich on Tech right after this,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology at triple eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>oh one. That's eight eight eight seven four to two,

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<v Speaker 1>four one zero one. The website for the show Richontech

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<v Speaker 1>dot TV. Get a lot of emails every week. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>deb from Agora Hills Rights in. My son is planning

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<v Speaker 1>to get his twelve year old daughter a phone through Verizon,

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<v Speaker 1>probably an iPhone. I remember you telling callers not to

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<v Speaker 1>fall for the free phone deals and calling them a

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<v Speaker 1>ripoff because of the thirty six month contracts. He's wondering

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<v Speaker 1>what you recommend for a cheap iPhone if that even exists,

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<v Speaker 1>and what's the best way to add her to his

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<v Speaker 1>Verizon plan. She doesn't need the latest and greatest. He's

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<v Speaker 1>also considering just buying a phone out right to avoid

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<v Speaker 1>all the sales pitches and hassles preteens yikes, yikes, is

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<v Speaker 1>right for twelve year old. Now here's my guidance on

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<v Speaker 1>those deals, the free phone deals. Number One, they're not free.

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<v Speaker 1>You're beholden to that carrier for the next thirty six

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<v Speaker 1>months because you're basically, while you're not signing a contract,

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<v Speaker 1>you're financing that phone, and by them giving you that

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<v Speaker 1>phone for free, they're giving you the equivalent in a

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<v Speaker 1>credit over the next thirty six months. So let's say

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<v Speaker 1>that the phone is six hundred dollars. They'll take that

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<v Speaker 1>divided by thirty six months. You'll get the phone for

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<v Speaker 1>free up front, but basically you are getting the thirty

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<v Speaker 1>six months divided by the six or the six hundred

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<v Speaker 1>divided by the thirty six months, and so they'll charge

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<v Speaker 1>you for that, and then they'll give you a credit

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<v Speaker 1>for that. So yes, you are getting it for free.

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<v Speaker 1>But here's the thing, you're sticking with that carrier and

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<v Speaker 1>I have nothing against Verizon or any other carrier, and

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<v Speaker 1>my guidance on this always stays the same if you

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<v Speaker 1>do not plan on leaving your carrier, If you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to stick with Verizon for the next three years, anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not a bad deal. You're just paying a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit more for your service. Because what I would recommend

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<v Speaker 1>to your son is to buy the iPhone sixteen E

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<v Speaker 1>outright for six hundred bucks and then go to something

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<v Speaker 1>like Visible, which charges twenty five dollars a month to

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<v Speaker 1>forty five for the phone and for unlimited service. So

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<v Speaker 1>that would be, if you do the math, much cheaper

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<v Speaker 1>than probably adding the twelve year old to the Verizon plan.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also what's easy. It's also what you already have.

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<v Speaker 1>Most people don't want to deal with having two different

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone services, two different bills, all that stuff. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to save the most money, the easiest

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<v Speaker 1>way is just buy the phone outright and get an

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<v Speaker 1>mv and O. Whether it's Mint Mobile, whether it is Visible,

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<v Speaker 1>those are two good mv and o's that will save you.

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<v Speaker 1>Mv and o's Mobile Virtual Network Operator Visible runs on

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<v Speaker 1>the Verizon network, and Mint Mobile is actually owned by

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<v Speaker 1>T Mobile and it runs on the T Mobile network.

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<v Speaker 1>So again, Dev, just you know, do what's best for

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<v Speaker 1>your situation. I have nothing against those deals, They're just

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<v Speaker 1>not a free phone. You can't walk away the next

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<v Speaker 1>day and with that free phone. Eighty eight Rich one

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<v Speaker 1>oh one eight eight eight seven four to two four

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<v Speaker 1>to one zero one.

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<v Speaker 2>Emma in San Bernardino, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 5>I wish. I am going through a family emergency. I

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<v Speaker 5>am trying to book a lass manpula to Wahaka, and

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<v Speaker 5>I was wondering what search engines do you recommend. I mean,

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<v Speaker 5>I've been looking for a day or so and then

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<v Speaker 5>they go up to go down, obviously, but I looked

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<v Speaker 5>at what was it called my Trip, and it seems

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<v Speaker 5>too good.

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<v Speaker 6>To be true.

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<v Speaker 1>It probably is to be too good to be true.

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<v Speaker 1>I've not heard of that website my Trip, Yes, I've

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<v Speaker 1>not heard of that one. So the only place that

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<v Speaker 1>I look for fares is Google Flights. So that is

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<v Speaker 1>the absolute best way to look for flights. If you

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<v Speaker 1>are right up against date of a flight, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be paying a lot no matter what. There is no

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<v Speaker 1>such thing as a discounted fare when it comes to

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<v Speaker 1>right up against the time of the flight. So the

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<v Speaker 1>best way to do this a couple of things. If

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<v Speaker 1>you have miles, that could be the best way to

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<v Speaker 1>buy the flight. So a website like points yeah dot

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<v Speaker 1>com if you maybe have a credit card with Points,

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<v Speaker 1>or you can even see there's two websites I recommend

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<v Speaker 1>points dot com and point dot me. And they may

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<v Speaker 1>have some paid services. You might be able to get

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<v Speaker 1>a flight a search for free. But the beauty of

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<v Speaker 1>those is that they figure out ways of using your

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<v Speaker 1>miles in ways that you might not think of. So

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<v Speaker 1>I know you said you had to go to a

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<v Speaker 1>certain destination. You may find that the miles on the

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<v Speaker 1>main airline. Let's say that Jet blueflies there. You may

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<v Speaker 1>find that on sorry, let's say Delta. You have your

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<v Speaker 1>miles with Delta, but yet Blue also flies there. But

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you can transfer your miles into Jet Blue using

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<v Speaker 1>your credit card. So those websites will help you unearth

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<v Speaker 1>those sorts of things that you may not think of yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>So first off, I check that.

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<v Speaker 1>The second thing I would check is if this is

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<v Speaker 1>sort of a bereavement fair, you may be able to

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<v Speaker 1>call the airline directly and ask them if they offer

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<v Speaker 1>that may not be much cheaper, but you might get

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like some airlines may offer up to ten

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<v Speaker 1>percent off, so you might be able to figure that

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<v Speaker 1>out by calling the airline directly. But what I would

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<v Speaker 1>do is, I think your best bet right now is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be finding the cheapest data fly and the

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<v Speaker 1>cheapest combination of places to fly from. So on Google Flights,

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<v Speaker 1>which is flights dot Google dot com. Instead of choosing

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<v Speaker 1>a specific airport, like, for instance, you're in San Bernardino,

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<v Speaker 1>I would type in is Ontario close to there? I

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<v Speaker 1>would think so right, so I would put like Ontario,

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<v Speaker 1>or or I would put Los Angeles right, and instead

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<v Speaker 1>of choosing LAX, choose the city of Los Angeles, and

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<v Speaker 1>that will choose all of the airports nearby. Actually it's

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<v Speaker 1>not choosing Ontario, so I guess they don't consider that.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say let's just type in Ontario O nta

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<v Speaker 1>Rio Ontario, California. Okay, So if you choose Ontario, California,

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<v Speaker 1>that will choose Ontario airport and also LAX, which is

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<v Speaker 1>going to give you a much wider swath. But I

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<v Speaker 1>would even open it up further to Burbank as well.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you've got three airports that you're looking for

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<v Speaker 1>flights from. And then the city that you said, what

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<v Speaker 1>was the city, Wahakah, So you put that in as

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<v Speaker 1>your destination and see if there's any airports that are nearby.

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<v Speaker 1>And then also the thing you want to do is

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<v Speaker 1>just look one way at a time, So choose each

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<v Speaker 1>flight one way at a time instead of that round trip,

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<v Speaker 1>and that will help you sort of come up with

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<v Speaker 1>the cheapest possible option. And I will tell you my experience,

0:23:57.359 --> 0:24:01.280
<v Speaker 1>fares jump up seven days before you have to fly.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason for that is because business travelers have

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<v Speaker 1>money to burn, and that's where the airlines really make

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<v Speaker 1>their money. They don't make it on the leisure travelers

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<v Speaker 1>that are booking, you know, sixty ninety one hundred and

0:24:12.600 --> 0:24:15.040
<v Speaker 1>eighty days in advance. They know those people are going

0:24:15.080 --> 0:24:17.760
<v Speaker 1>to book because they're booking for their kids, they're booking

0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:21.160
<v Speaker 1>for spring break, they're booking when they have vacation. Where

0:24:21.240 --> 0:24:24.320
<v Speaker 1>airlines really make their money is on that last minute travel,

0:24:24.680 --> 0:24:26.680
<v Speaker 1>and so they know seven days before. When you work

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<v Speaker 1>for a big company, you don't care what that airfare

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<v Speaker 1>is because you've got to get to that business meeting.

0:24:31.080 --> 0:24:32.679
<v Speaker 1>You've got to get to that event. You've got to

0:24:32.680 --> 0:24:35.080
<v Speaker 1>get to that conference, whatever it is. They know they've

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<v Speaker 1>got you, and so that is what I recommend. I

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<v Speaker 1>book airfares all day, every day, and believe me, at

0:24:42.600 --> 0:24:46.080
<v Speaker 1>any given moment, I am searching for I've got my

0:24:46.320 --> 0:24:50.320
<v Speaker 1>tracked fares on let's see right now, I've got one, two, three,

0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:54.360
<v Speaker 1>four tracked fares and I watch those prices go up

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<v Speaker 1>down around all over the place. Thanks for the call, Emma.

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<v Speaker 1>Hopefully you can find a flight that fits your chat gbt.

0:25:02.800 --> 0:25:05.959
<v Speaker 1>This week, you might have noticed people are tweeting and

0:25:06.000 --> 0:25:09.600
<v Speaker 1>sharing on social media all kinds of images from chat GBT.

0:25:10.280 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Chat Ebt did a major upgrade to their image generation tool,

0:25:14.720 --> 0:25:17.760
<v Speaker 1>which is now built right into chat ebt. You can

0:25:17.800 --> 0:25:20.119
<v Speaker 1>access chat gibt by going to chat dot com. By

0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>the way, they opened it up for free and paid users,

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.200
<v Speaker 1>but people started using this so much it was melting

0:25:27.240 --> 0:25:30.919
<v Speaker 1>the servers at chatbt and they had to limit it

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:33.439
<v Speaker 1>to just paid users. Now thankfully, I'm a paid user

0:25:33.920 --> 0:25:35.879
<v Speaker 1>and I have been using the heck out of this.

0:25:36.119 --> 0:25:38.879
<v Speaker 1>I absolutely love it. So they used to have this

0:25:38.960 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 1>image generation tool called Dolly three, but now they are

0:25:42.600 --> 0:25:46.560
<v Speaker 1>replacing that with just this default image generation inside chat gibt,

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:49.320
<v Speaker 1>so in the regular chat you can just say, generate

0:25:49.359 --> 0:25:53.159
<v Speaker 1>me an image that looks like this or whatever you want.

0:25:53.400 --> 0:25:57.480
<v Speaker 1>It's more lifelike, it has logos, you can make transparent backgrounds.

0:25:57.520 --> 0:26:01.040
<v Speaker 1>The text, for the first time ever, is readable. So

0:26:01.200 --> 0:26:03.199
<v Speaker 1>it used to be that AI had a real problem

0:26:03.200 --> 0:26:07.240
<v Speaker 1>with generating text. This time it is perfect every single time.

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<v Speaker 1>And the other thing you can do is upload an

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<v Speaker 1>image and ask it to modify that image in any

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:16.320
<v Speaker 1>style you want. So a lot of people are doing

0:26:16.320 --> 0:26:20.960
<v Speaker 1>this Jibli style. This is like a Japanese animation art house.

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<v Speaker 1>So people were generating images like that and they're amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's quite incredible. And of course, yes, there's

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<v Speaker 1>this whole debate over AI and copyrighted images and images

0:26:33.960 --> 0:26:36.480
<v Speaker 1>in the style of things and how artists are going

0:26:36.560 --> 0:26:40.000
<v Speaker 1>to fare because now chat gbt can make such great

0:26:40.040 --> 0:26:43.240
<v Speaker 1>images and it's all very much a concern, And yes,

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<v Speaker 1>people will be losing jobs. Entry level jobs in generation

0:26:47.560 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 1>of images will be lost because of this, because you

0:26:51.119 --> 0:26:53.520
<v Speaker 1>no longer need to know how to use Canva or

0:26:53.560 --> 0:26:56.879
<v Speaker 1>even Photoshop to make an amazing image. And so yeah,

0:26:56.920 --> 0:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>this changes the dynamic of our world. But it's incredible.

0:27:00.760 --> 0:27:03.159
<v Speaker 1>It's amazing, and I think you shall play with it

0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 1>because you can't hide from this stuff. It is happening,

0:27:06.160 --> 0:27:09.159
<v Speaker 1>it is changing, and we have to adapt. And I

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<v Speaker 1>do feel sorry for the artists that have made their

0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:15.080
<v Speaker 1>living making images like this, because now you can literally,

0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:19.760
<v Speaker 1>in plain text, generate something that is quite incredible. And

0:27:19.800 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I know because I was doing it all weekend. So

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>take an image, upload it and say make this in

0:27:24.320 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>the style of whatever you want a muppet. You can

0:27:26.560 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 1>turn yourself into a muppet. Yes, that's what I did

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 1>this weekend. You can turn well, I mean on chat

0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 1>ebt and become a muppet. I mean, you could really

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 1>have fun. I said, make make a an old timey

0:27:39.280 --> 0:27:44.359
<v Speaker 1>newspaper poster style advertising my newsletter. It did that and

0:27:44.400 --> 0:27:47.080
<v Speaker 1>it gets everything really really good. You can turn any

0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>image into a Dolly Renaissance portrait. Whatever you can think of,

0:27:53.359 --> 0:27:56.200
<v Speaker 1>any famous artist, it will make an image in that style.

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<v Speaker 2>It is quite incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, if you're on the free chatchibt, you gotta wait

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<v Speaker 1>a bit until the paid people have their turn, but

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<v Speaker 1>eventually it'll make its way to you. Eight eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>rich one O one eight eight eight seven four to two,

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<v Speaker 1>four to one zero one. My name is Rich d'miro.

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to Rich on Tech. Welcome to rich

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<v Speaker 1>go to Richard in Bell, California.

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<v Speaker 7>Yes, I got all those apps installed on all my

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<v Speaker 7>devices that let you know when the phone is charged

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:05.520
<v Speaker 7>up to night percent or drains down to twenty percent.

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:08.120
<v Speaker 7>The problem is those things go off at three in

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<v Speaker 7>the morning and wipe me up, you know, because the

0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:14.280
<v Speaker 7>device is drained down.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it really sound like my house? My wife gives

0:29:17.800 --> 0:29:21.120
<v Speaker 1>me issues every day. She's like, there's so many things

0:29:21.160 --> 0:29:22.680
<v Speaker 1>going off in the middle of the night. I'm like, yeah,

0:29:22.680 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 1>that's all the gadgets I'm testing. Can't can't silence them all?

0:29:28.840 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 7>Is it necessary to you know, not charge up to

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<v Speaker 7>one hundred percent. They say it damages the battery, and

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<v Speaker 7>why can't they make the phones where we could just

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.560
<v Speaker 7>leave it plugged in all the time while we're at home.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, a lot of people do. And so Richard, what

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<v Speaker 1>do you have an iPhone or an Android?

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<v Speaker 7>I got an Android and some tablets and some a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of old phones I use.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, here here's my guidance on this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, you know, look, if you're keeping your

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<v Speaker 1>phone for seven years, yeah, you got to think about

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.960
<v Speaker 1>the battery, right, But I think most of the modern

0:30:04.040 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 1>phones that we have, the batteries they're good, and yes,

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:11.520
<v Speaker 1>charging and decharging and you know, draining the battery definitely

0:30:11.800 --> 0:30:16.520
<v Speaker 1>has an effect on the phone. But now both iPhone

0:30:16.600 --> 0:30:20.000
<v Speaker 1>and Android natively. And I think you can ditch the

0:30:20.040 --> 0:30:22.360
<v Speaker 1>apps that you have. By the way, Richard, I think

0:30:22.400 --> 0:30:25.240
<v Speaker 1>you can uninstall those because that's a nuisance. You don't

0:30:25.240 --> 0:30:26.959
<v Speaker 1>need to wake up, you don't need to disrupt your

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 1>sleep in the middle of the night to unplug your phone. Now,

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:31.120
<v Speaker 1>I test every phone in the world. I leave them

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<v Speaker 1>plugged in, I charge them up. Yes, it does have

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of an impact on the battery life. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you're worried and you're trying to keep your phone

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<v Speaker 1>for a very long time, I would be concerned. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you have an iPhone or a Samsung, they have

0:30:46.480 --> 0:30:50.360
<v Speaker 1>battery optimization and health features built right into the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably never even noticed. But if you go into

0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 1>the iPhone, look for battery and then tap go into

0:30:57.320 --> 0:31:01.160
<v Speaker 1>settings battery and then tap charging, and you'll see there's

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<v Speaker 1>a charge limit, so you can do eighty eighty five,

0:31:04.000 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>ninety ninety five or one hundred, and your iPhone software

0:31:08.440 --> 0:31:12.600
<v Speaker 1>will actually recommend a charge limit for you. And so,

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<v Speaker 1>for instance, mine is saying, based on your iPhone habits,

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<v Speaker 1>a charge limit of ninety percent is recommended to help

0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:20.720
<v Speaker 1>preserve your battery and so I can tap that and

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:24.480
<v Speaker 1>my phone will automatically optimize the battery charging on its own,

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<v Speaker 1>So you can do that and just leave that there, okay,

0:31:29.360 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>and if you need more, you can always just override

0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.440
<v Speaker 1>that at any time. If you're on Samsung, if you

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<v Speaker 1>go into your settings, Settings and then battery, you will

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<v Speaker 1>notice they also have a section labeled battery protection. Now

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<v Speaker 1>this is on the latest software, which may or may

0:31:45.520 --> 0:31:47.160
<v Speaker 1>not be on your phone, but it is rolling out

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<v Speaker 1>to some of the older devices. But if you tap

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<v Speaker 1>that and tap battery protection, turn it on, you've got

0:31:53.160 --> 0:31:55.960
<v Speaker 1>basic battery protection. When your battery is charged to one

0:31:56.000 --> 0:31:58.880
<v Speaker 1>hundred percent, charging will stop until the battery drops down

0:31:58.880 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 1>to ninety five percent and we'll start charging again. So

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<v Speaker 1>that way your battery is not constantly being charged all

0:32:04.600 --> 0:32:06.880
<v Speaker 1>day long at one hundred percent. It'll wait until it

0:32:06.960 --> 0:32:10.440
<v Speaker 1>drops down, then it'll trigger again to charge. Then you've

0:32:10.440 --> 0:32:14.080
<v Speaker 1>got adaptive stop charging at eighty percent while you're asleep,

0:32:14.120 --> 0:32:17.160
<v Speaker 1>and switch to basic before you wake. Sleep time is

0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:21.040
<v Speaker 1>estimated used on your phone is estimated based on your

0:32:21.080 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>phone usage patterns, and then you've got the maximum protection,

0:32:24.760 --> 0:32:27.320
<v Speaker 1>which is your battery will stop charging when it reaches

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<v Speaker 1>eighty percent. So my advice in general is if you're

0:32:31.040 --> 0:32:34.240
<v Speaker 1>a person that swaps your phone out every three years,

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<v Speaker 1>you probably don't have to worry about the battery and

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 1>how you're charging it. It's probably going to be fine

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<v Speaker 1>for those three years. If you're keeping it for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time, then yes, I would go into some

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<v Speaker 1>of these settings and be more aware of how you

0:32:47.080 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 1>charge your phone and how you're charging it. If you

0:32:49.560 --> 0:32:54.360
<v Speaker 1>don't have access to these battery optimization features in your software.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I would say you probably want to charge your

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<v Speaker 1>phone up, maybe up to one hundred percent, and then

0:33:00.280 --> 0:33:03.480
<v Speaker 1>let it get down to about twenty five percent. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>ride it all the way to zero before you charge

0:33:05.600 --> 0:33:09.080
<v Speaker 1>it up again. Really, from what I understand, batteries when

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<v Speaker 1>they get down to under twenty percent, that's when it

0:33:11.920 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>really strains them. And so if you're going down, if

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you're going up to one hundred and down to zero

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:19.600
<v Speaker 1>every single time, that's putting a lot of strain on

0:33:19.640 --> 0:33:22.960
<v Speaker 1>your battery. And so what I'd recommend is that eighty

0:33:23.160 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>that twenty to eighty percent is the sweet spot for

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:28.480
<v Speaker 1>today's modern batteries. That's where you kind of want to

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:30.920
<v Speaker 1>keep your phone, and you can use that software built

0:33:30.920 --> 0:33:33.880
<v Speaker 1>into your devices Richard to help make that happen.

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<v Speaker 2>But good question.

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<v Speaker 1>But if yeah, if you're exchanging your phone all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>trading it in, not giving it to a family member,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're done, sure, ride the heck out of the battery.

0:33:42.960 --> 0:33:43.720
<v Speaker 2>You'll be just fine.

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<v Speaker 1>By the way, if you have let me get this

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<v Speaker 1>piece of news here. If you have Spectrum TV, which

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of folks do, they are rebundling cable.

0:33:54.880 --> 0:33:57.960
<v Speaker 1>This is so interesting. They just keep adding streaming services

0:33:57.960 --> 0:34:00.280
<v Speaker 1>to the mix. So if you are a spec Trum

0:34:00.360 --> 0:34:04.080
<v Speaker 1>TV Select subscriber, you now have access to Peacock at

0:34:04.120 --> 0:34:10.160
<v Speaker 1>no extra charge. So you're getting Peacock Premium. Now, that's interesting.

0:34:10.160 --> 0:34:12.840
<v Speaker 1>It's Peacock Premium, but it says it's the ADS supported.

0:34:12.880 --> 0:34:16.839
<v Speaker 1>So let me see what that means. Peacock plans, because

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I have Peacock. Mine is not I thought it was

0:34:19.320 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>premium was the one? Oh okay, well this is a

0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>this is a funny way to name something. Peacock Premium

0:34:26.600 --> 0:34:30.960
<v Speaker 1>still has ADS, but Peacock Premium plus say that three times.

0:34:30.680 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 2>Fast does not have ads.

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:35.400
<v Speaker 1>So Peacock Premium is eight bucks a month, but you're

0:34:35.440 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>getting that for free now. If you have Spectrum TV,

0:34:38.200 --> 0:34:42.040
<v Speaker 1>this is happening right now, available immediately, and this is

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:45.399
<v Speaker 1>an addition to all the other streaming services they're giving

0:34:45.440 --> 0:34:50.160
<v Speaker 1>you Max Disney plus, ESPN plus, Paramount plus Vix and

0:34:50.239 --> 0:34:53.279
<v Speaker 1>the Tennis channel. I know, Bobo, you're excited about the

0:34:53.280 --> 0:34:56.800
<v Speaker 1>tennis channel. Oh no, Venus and Serena aren't planned anymore.

0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.600
<v Speaker 2>So it's kind of you're over it. You're done, You're done. Watching.

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<v Speaker 1>I know people were into tennis last week. They had

0:35:01.920 --> 0:35:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that big tournament in Indian Wells. I know people were

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:05.279
<v Speaker 1>excited about that.

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<v Speaker 6>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And I used to play tennis as a kid, so

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I do have a soft spot for tennis.

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I know there's a big war, you know between the

0:35:11.520 --> 0:35:15.640
<v Speaker 1>pickleball lovers and the tennis lovers. Why because they're converting

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<v Speaker 1>don't send me the angry emails. I'm not converting your

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<v Speaker 1>courts anyway. Available right now, So if you have Spectrum

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. More rich on Tech right

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<v Speaker 1>after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich Demiro

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<v Speaker 1>here hanging out with you talking technology at Triple eight

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<v Speaker 1>Rich one oh one eight eight eight seven four to

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<v Speaker 1>two four one zero one. I hope you're having a

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<v Speaker 1>great day. The website for the show is Richontech dot tv.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're just finding me for the first time, I

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<v Speaker 1>know we're recently on WOAR in New York City. Thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for finding us. I'm getting the emails from you folks,

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<v Speaker 1>and I absolutely love the fact that you're finding us

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<v Speaker 1>and enjoying the show. It makes my day when I

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<v Speaker 1>get an email that says, hey, Rich, I like what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing because it's very validating. We all need to

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<v Speaker 1>be validated in this world, right, and so my validation

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<v Speaker 1>comes from your emails.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Let's go to Ace, Ace and pear Blossom.

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<v Speaker 6>Rich.

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<v Speaker 8>I like your show, dude, Thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>And I'm a longtime listener back to Jeff Levy and

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<v Speaker 6>Leo Laporte, and I think you're the best replacement so far.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, well thank you.

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<v Speaker 6>You know, I got really a big problem. I'm an

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<v Speaker 6>old senior seventy eight years old on low income Social Security,

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<v Speaker 6>and I live alone, and I don't have good vision anymore.

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<v Speaker 6>I've use the magnifier all the time, which really is

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<v Speaker 6>a pain in the button. And today when I went

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<v Speaker 6>to go on Amazon, I found up my cash was full,

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<v Speaker 6>so I had to go empty the cash. That was

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<v Speaker 6>a big pain. And then when I came back to Amazon,

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<v Speaker 6>they went, oh, hey, you need to sign in again.

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:10.960
<v Speaker 6>And when I signed in again, well, you need to

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<v Speaker 6>go and get this secret number from your Yahoo email.

0:37:14.760 --> 0:37:17.399
<v Speaker 6>So when I go to my Yahoo email to get

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<v Speaker 6>the secret number, I'm signed out of Yahoo too now

0:37:21.400 --> 0:37:25.319
<v Speaker 6>and I'm signed out of my Gmail and Gmail, which

0:37:25.320 --> 0:37:28.480
<v Speaker 6>I'm trying to do all morning. When they got rid

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<v Speaker 6>of the HTML easy fast Gmail, they screwed everybody that

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:39.319
<v Speaker 6>our old people on dial up ISP. It takes me

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 6>a fast way to get into the Gmail. Now. My

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:46.959
<v Speaker 6>Gmail account is two hours of reload, reload, sit and wait.

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:49.479
<v Speaker 6>It took me seven days one time.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, seven days. So you might as well

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<v Speaker 2>send a letter.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, yeah, I mean it makes it. And all the time,

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<v Speaker 6>I can't get onto Amazon to buy my food. I

0:37:58.840 --> 0:38:00.920
<v Speaker 6>can't drive anywhere. I got to get most of my

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<v Speaker 6>food from Amazon.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind of dial up? Are you on?

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<v Speaker 6>The cheapest one out there?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>Man, I mean that's yeah, that's that's rough because it's slow.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they charge for dial up these days?

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<v Speaker 6>It's like around one hundred bucks a month.

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<v Speaker 1>A hundred year, one hundred bucks a year something like that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, a hundred bucks a month. You

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<v Speaker 1>might as well switch. Do you not have access to

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<v Speaker 1>faster internet in your area?

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<v Speaker 2>For that?

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<v Speaker 6>I kind of like having this line, Okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>it's a lot clearer when you talk to people. And

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<v Speaker 6>I used to call talk radio a lot and you

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<v Speaker 6>need a landline to get through clearly.

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<v Speaker 2>And you sound great.

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<v Speaker 6>For years and I have grandsons, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you do sound good. So this is the landline. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know where Pear Blossom is, but it

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<v Speaker 2>sounds like in the middle of nowhere.

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<v Speaker 6>It's on the way to Las Vegas. It's out by

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<v Speaker 6>Little Rock.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I don't know where that is either. We're

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<v Speaker 2>not talking Arkansas.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, there's it's cool, there's no crime. We have a

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<v Speaker 6>weather window here. There's hardly any hell lying around at night.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my, no helicopters. He's off the eight.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm looking at going between Palm del Lancaster on the

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<v Speaker 9>way to the fifteen.

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<v Speaker 1>Between between Little Rock and Lano Lano with two l's

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<v Speaker 1>and then Black Butte Airfield.

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<v Speaker 6>I know it's not you have an airfield out there.

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<v Speaker 6>It's like a little glider airport.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you pronounced it Butte not but uh, we

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<v Speaker 1>were just talking last night. My kids fall asleep, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a helicopter over the house.

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<v Speaker 2>We love, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>We live in La Proper and my kids are like

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<v Speaker 1>helicopters all night every night.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is I go.

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<v Speaker 1>I I remember when I moved to La going to

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<v Speaker 1>USC that's the first time I heard a helicopter. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, this is this is the reality of

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<v Speaker 1>living in a big city. I said, do you want

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<v Speaker 1>to live in the middle of nowhere where there's more

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<v Speaker 1>you know, no one around you? I don't know, I mean,

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>pick your poison anyway. To answer your question, Ace, You're right,

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<v Speaker 1>So a Gmail got rid of what's called the basic

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<v Speaker 1>HTML view right in January. So this was a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of months ago. Uh, and so it does slow down

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<v Speaker 1>things because what's happening on Gmail is they're loading a

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<v Speaker 1>whole bunch of stuff. So I think what you can

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<v Speaker 1>do to try to make that a little bit easier

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<v Speaker 1>on your connection is I would recommend that you probably

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<v Speaker 1>want to download if you can. I mean, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if you can even download an app on dial up.

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<v Speaker 1>But what what about using on your computer something like

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<v Speaker 1>Outlook or thunder or you know, Apple Mail built into

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<v Speaker 1>a to an Apple computer or Thunderbird from Mozilla just

0:40:37.360 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>to get you know, just to get your email. It'll

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<v Speaker 1>it'll die, It'll get the email quicker, it'll pull it

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<v Speaker 1>from the server and put it, you know, at least

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<v Speaker 1>put on your computer. So I think that's probably number

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<v Speaker 1>one what you want to do. Number two, you might

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<v Speaker 1>want to go into your settings on Gmail and just

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<v Speaker 1>see what you can do to you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 1>lessen the load on the internet, because it sounds like

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot going on. It's trying to load a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things, and I think maybe having you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the view on Gmail optimized a bit more for a

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<v Speaker 1>slower connection might help. So you might want to you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's maybe turn on compact view inside Gmail, and also

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<v Speaker 1>maybe try a different browser. So maybe the problem is

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<v Speaker 1>downloading any of this stuff on a slow connection is

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<v Speaker 1>going to be tricky. So I think that's what you're

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<v Speaker 1>up against. I mean, I think that the dial up

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<v Speaker 1>service is really tricky because not a lot of things

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<v Speaker 1>are optimized for dial up, and even people that live

0:41:36.239 --> 0:41:39.440
<v Speaker 1>in rural areas now with the addition of Starlink and

0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:43.799
<v Speaker 1>all these satellite connectivity services that are getting better, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the speeds are just getting faster everywhere. So it's a

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<v Speaker 1>tough thing. But ace I think you can. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you can figure it out. I really do. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you got to try to switch to an email client

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<v Speaker 1>and that way your emails are downloaded all day instead

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<v Speaker 1>of just when you try to log on. Or I

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<v Speaker 1>would just try to optimize the view inside Gmail and

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<v Speaker 1>there might even be a Chrome extension that can kind

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<v Speaker 1>of simplify Gmail or maybe bring back that HTML basic view.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, Google removed that in January because they said

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<v Speaker 1>that most people. I think they said back then that

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<v Speaker 1>like not a lot of people were using it, like

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<v Speaker 1>they had some sort of number they gave that said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's only a handful of people. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they mentioned you by name, and they said there was

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<v Speaker 1>only like one or two people using it. Great question, Ace,

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the call today. I do appreciate out there

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<v Speaker 1>in a pair, Blossom. Do we have time for another

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<v Speaker 1>question before the break?

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<v Speaker 2>One more question?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, let's see, let's go to Leslie and Coda Dekasa, California.

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<v Speaker 2>Leslie, you're on with rich Leslie. Hey, what's up? Welcome?

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<v Speaker 10>Oh?

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<v Speaker 11>Thanks, Actually driving the USC right now, and yes, the

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<v Speaker 11>helicopters are still overhead all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, hey, I don't know what they're doing, but they're

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<v Speaker 1>doing something. What can I help you?

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<v Speaker 6>With.

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<v Speaker 11>My question is related to cell phones and international travel.

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<v Speaker 11>It's been a minute since I've been anywhere internationally, and

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<v Speaker 11>we're taking the family to Europe this summer.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, congratulations, work Thanks, Okay, things work automatically.

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<v Speaker 11>Do we need to plan, prepare all? Verizon, et cetera.

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<v Speaker 1>You're reading my mind, Leslie. This is actually the story

0:43:29.160 --> 0:43:33.880
<v Speaker 1>that I'm doing for KTLA this week. So I just

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:36.160
<v Speaker 1>did my story on this. We're shooting it this week

0:43:36.160 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>and we're going to air it. But because so many

0:43:37.719 --> 0:43:39.840
<v Speaker 1>people are asking me, I guess Europe is very popular.

0:43:39.840 --> 0:43:43.080
<v Speaker 1>But here's the deal. So here are my uh, here's

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<v Speaker 1>all of my steps for if you're going overseas. Number

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<v Speaker 1>one easiest option, keep your current plan. So most of

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 1>the service providers like AT and T, Verizon, T Mobile,

0:43:53.160 --> 0:43:55.319
<v Speaker 1>they will charge you a daily rate so you can

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<v Speaker 1>keep your same number and your data plan. AT and

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<v Speaker 1>T twelve bucks a day, Verizon ten dollars a day.

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<v Speaker 1>Many of the T Mobile plans actually include international roaming,

0:44:04.560 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 1>but you can pay for faster speeds. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>like five bucks a day. So that's number one. Call

0:44:08.760 --> 0:44:11.759
<v Speaker 1>your carrier and ask what's included on your plan. So

0:44:11.840 --> 0:44:15.000
<v Speaker 1>sometimes if you have an expensive plan, Verizon might give

0:44:15.040 --> 0:44:17.520
<v Speaker 1>you a travel past day every month, so if you

0:44:17.560 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>haven't traveled in the last year, you may have twelve

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:23.239
<v Speaker 1>days banked up, so call them first. That's number one.

0:44:23.880 --> 0:44:26.279
<v Speaker 1>So if you don't have free and your plan might

0:44:26.320 --> 0:44:28.760
<v Speaker 1>include free international roaming, like if you're on T Mobile,

0:44:28.800 --> 0:44:31.799
<v Speaker 1>so that's number one. Even if you're on a secondary

0:44:31.840 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 1>carrier like a virtual carrier visible Mint Mobile, they also

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:38.640
<v Speaker 1>have international options. They used to, not a lot of

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.560
<v Speaker 1>them have added that. So the second thing to consider

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:45.440
<v Speaker 1>is what's called an eSIM. This is temporary wireless service

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that you buy from an app and you activate it

0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:51.000
<v Speaker 1>right on your phone. And you said you had a

0:44:51.040 --> 0:44:54.279
<v Speaker 1>combination of iPhones. iPhone has had the eSIM for many

0:44:54.360 --> 0:44:57.200
<v Speaker 1>years now, so your phone should be compatible. Of course,

0:44:57.200 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>you want to go on Apple's website, pop in your

0:44:59.440 --> 0:45:02.120
<v Speaker 1>model number and eSIM and see if it has an eSIM.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe it's iPhone eleven and.

0:45:04.360 --> 0:45:07.480
<v Speaker 1>Up, but don't quote me on that, but that is

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<v Speaker 1>an app like erlo ai r A l O. You

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<v Speaker 1>go on the app, you buy the eSIM and you

0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.320
<v Speaker 1>can activate it right from your phone. That's very cost

0:45:15.360 --> 0:45:17.600
<v Speaker 1>effective because it's gonna be a lot cheaper than your carrier.

0:45:18.440 --> 0:45:21.319
<v Speaker 1>There's even an eSIM from a company called Gigsky, which

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.960
<v Speaker 1>I tested. They give you a hundred megabytes for free.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna get more than a minute in another

0:45:27.280 --> 0:45:30.920
<v Speaker 1>country using one hundred megabytes, But keep in mind eSIMs

0:45:30.920 --> 0:45:33.800
<v Speaker 1>are usually data only, so when you leave the US,

0:45:33.880 --> 0:45:36.840
<v Speaker 1>make sure you turn on Wi Fi calling and texting

0:45:38.120 --> 0:45:40.279
<v Speaker 1>if you're using anything other than your main carrier. Turn

0:45:40.320 --> 0:45:43.480
<v Speaker 1>off roaming, of course, to avoid those unexpected charges.

0:45:43.760 --> 0:45:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Now, if you just.

0:45:44.280 --> 0:45:46.759
<v Speaker 1>Want the cheapest option leslie, which just sounds like you don't,

0:45:46.760 --> 0:45:48.719
<v Speaker 1>but I'm just gonna tell you because other people might

0:45:48.760 --> 0:45:51.880
<v Speaker 1>be wondering, put your phone phone in airplane mode and

0:45:51.920 --> 0:45:54.319
<v Speaker 1>then turn the Wi Fi only back on when you

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.280
<v Speaker 1>get to that country, and just hunt for hot spots.

0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:58.840
<v Speaker 2>They are in a lot of places.

0:45:58.880 --> 0:46:00.480
<v Speaker 1>They're not gonna be everywhere, but if you don't want

0:46:00.520 --> 0:46:03.239
<v Speaker 1>to spend a nickel, just hunt for the hotspots. There's

0:46:03.239 --> 0:46:06.680
<v Speaker 1>an app called Wi fimap dot Io which can help

0:46:06.680 --> 0:46:08.040
<v Speaker 1>you find the networks.

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:09.640
<v Speaker 2>But no matter which route you go.

0:46:10.239 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 1>Before you leave, turn off those automatic backups and uploads

0:46:14.239 --> 0:46:18.799
<v Speaker 1>on apps like photo backups, Google Photos cloud storage. Make

0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:21.160
<v Speaker 1>sure they're set to Wi Fi only, so you don't

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:22.640
<v Speaker 1>use up your entire plan.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually have something else.

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<v Speaker 9>Yes, when you do call your provider, Yes, make sure

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<v Speaker 9>you ask them how to turn on that feature on

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<v Speaker 9>your phone. Because when I went to Tokyo, I didn't know

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<v Speaker 9>that I have to turn it on. So I was

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<v Speaker 9>in Tokyo for like three days with no signal. Yes,

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<v Speaker 9>because I didn't know that they're on my Samsung. You

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<v Speaker 9>have to hit something to turn on international call, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 9>ask you before you do that.

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<v Speaker 1>You may have roaming and international turned off in your

0:46:47.920 --> 0:46:50.759
<v Speaker 1>settings because of course that's the default. You don't want

0:46:50.760 --> 0:46:53.760
<v Speaker 1>to international or Rome, so yes, and a lot of times,

0:46:53.840 --> 0:46:55.600
<v Speaker 1>especially with Wi Fi calling and all that stuff, you

0:46:55.640 --> 0:46:57.279
<v Speaker 1>want to set it up before you have to leave.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, Japan is still one of the

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<v Speaker 1>trickiest places for international calls out of all the different countries.

0:47:04.000 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 1>They do have some different rules about their cellular networks,

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:11.000
<v Speaker 1>but in the for the most part, roaming is almost universal.

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<v Speaker 1>Every you know, used to be five ten years ago,

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:15.280
<v Speaker 1>it was much tricker than it is now. But I've

0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:17.759
<v Speaker 1>gone to most places now and it's quite easy to

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<v Speaker 1>find hotspots and also do that international rooming. Great question, Leslie,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for the call eight eight eight rich one O one.

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<v Speaker 2>Eight eight eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh seven four to two, four to one zero And

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<v Speaker 1>sorry I was taking notes. I'm taking notes about where

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<v Speaker 1>Leslie is from so I can put it in the

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<v Speaker 1>show notes, and I was blanking there. Coming up, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how Nintendo is helping you lend your games

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<v Speaker 1>to friends much easier. Now, this is rich on Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging

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<v Speaker 1>out with you, talking technology at Triple eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>O one eight eight eight seven four to two, four

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<v Speaker 1>to one zero one website for the show rich on

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<v Speaker 1>Tech dot TV. Coming up this hour. We we've got

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<v Speaker 1>Colin Walkee, a cybersecurity and data privacy expert, to talk

0:48:03.680 --> 0:48:06.200
<v Speaker 1>about that whole twenty three and me thing. I'm sure

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen the news that they filed for bankruptcy and

0:48:09.680 --> 0:48:14.040
<v Speaker 1>folks are trying to get their DNA data out of there,

0:48:14.680 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>and so he will speak to that and whether you

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:19.440
<v Speaker 1>should do that delete your information. A lot of you

0:48:19.480 --> 0:48:22.760
<v Speaker 1>probably already did you know? That's probably what the reality

0:48:22.800 --> 0:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>is here. I mean I posted on my Instagram. People

0:48:25.360 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 1>are really eager to get their info out Dave from

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<v Speaker 1>Joshua Tree Rights in Hey Rich, Greetings from the High Desert.

0:48:32.840 --> 0:48:34.560
<v Speaker 1>I love the show and catch it both on my

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<v Speaker 1>local radio station and the podcast through Spotify. Here's a

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<v Speaker 1>question I think a lot of listeners might have. Is

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<v Speaker 1>it safe to store documents with sensitive or PII personally

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<v Speaker 1>identifiable information on Google Drive. Well, that is a great question,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think we take for granted the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we store all kinds of data in the cloud, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's iCloud, whether it's Google Drive, whether it's one Drive.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the main thing to understand is if

0:49:01.960 --> 0:49:06.720
<v Speaker 1>this information is encrypted. And so Google Drive does encrypt data,

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<v Speaker 1>both in transit and at rest, so that means when

0:49:10.840 --> 0:49:14.960
<v Speaker 1>you're uploading something to Google Drive, it is encrypted, and

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:17.600
<v Speaker 1>when it's sitting in Google Drive, it's encrypted. So if

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.799
<v Speaker 1>someone came across those files, they'd find it tough to

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<v Speaker 1>figure out what's in them.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's good.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is linked to your Google account, and as

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<v Speaker 1>we know, accounts get hacked all the time, so you

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<v Speaker 1>have to be careful with phishing, weak passwords or any

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<v Speaker 1>This is what I think is the most dangerous third

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<v Speaker 1>party apps that request access to your Google Drive. So

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<v Speaker 1>my main concern is, you know, someone getting access to

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<v Speaker 1>your Google account and then of course getting into your

0:49:50.000 --> 0:49:52.960
<v Speaker 1>Drive account. Now, I do think that Google takes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of precautions because they're one of the biggest out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Even if you don't have two factor on, they've sort

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<v Speaker 1>of turned it on anyway, because they will send a

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<v Speaker 1>notification to a different device if they don't recognize a

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:07.239
<v Speaker 1>log in to get you to you know, authenticate that

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.720
<v Speaker 1>log in and make sure it's you. Does it happen?

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<v Speaker 1>Do people get in of course every day, I'm sure,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is the biggest thing is make sure that

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<v Speaker 1>you're protecting your Google account. And this is why I

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<v Speaker 1>really you know, in a pinch, I will use that

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<v Speaker 1>sign in with Google thing, but try not to use

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<v Speaker 1>that because even though it's easy, you know, it just

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<v Speaker 1>links up all of these different places now, especially Google drives.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's two ways that apps might ask for access

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<v Speaker 1>to Google Drive. So for instance, I recommend an app

0:50:37.680 --> 0:50:40.800
<v Speaker 1>called SMS Backup and Restore. So if you're on Android,

0:50:41.120 --> 0:50:43.680
<v Speaker 1>you can download this app and it will back up

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<v Speaker 1>your your text messages to us. You know, you can

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<v Speaker 1>export them whatever you want to do, but it can

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<v Speaker 1>also back them up to Google Drive. And the way

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<v Speaker 1>that this app works, I really like it because it says, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we would like access to your Google Drive, but we

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<v Speaker 1>would only like to be able to act says information

0:51:01.160 --> 0:51:04.520
<v Speaker 1>that we create, So a folder inside Google Drive we

0:51:04.600 --> 0:51:07.960
<v Speaker 1>will carve out and only that folder will we access.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is the right way to do it. When

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<v Speaker 1>you go to an app and it says, hey, can

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<v Speaker 1>we access your Google Drive and it says, see read

0:51:14.320 --> 0:51:17.640
<v Speaker 1>and delete all files in your Google Drive, you do

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<v Speaker 1>not want to allow access to that unless you really

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<v Speaker 1>really trust that particular service provider. Now, this also happens

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<v Speaker 1>for Gmail, and again, anytime an app asks for full

0:51:31.239 --> 0:51:34.439
<v Speaker 1>access to your account, you have to be careful. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>there are some legitimate apps that do this, like I

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<v Speaker 1>recommend a ward wallet, and for a ward wallet to

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<v Speaker 1>really work, it kind of finds all my itineraries and

0:51:43.520 --> 0:51:47.520
<v Speaker 1>dinner reservations and things. They want to scan your Gmail

0:51:47.920 --> 0:51:50.760
<v Speaker 1>because they're looking for any sort of reservations you've made.

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<v Speaker 1>Trip it. Same thing, if you give full access to

0:51:54.200 --> 0:51:56.440
<v Speaker 1>trip it, they want to ask for access to your

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<v Speaker 1>Gmail because they want to be able to scan for itinerary.

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<v Speaker 1>So you better trust these companies that you are giving

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<v Speaker 1>full access to your Gmail. The place I want you

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<v Speaker 1>to look third party apps and services on Google. So

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<v Speaker 1>go to my account dot Google dot com slash connections,

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<v Speaker 1>and you will see all of the third party apps

0:52:18.239 --> 0:52:20.799
<v Speaker 1>and services you have connected to your Google account, the

0:52:20.880 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 1>ones you know, the signing with Google whatever linked account.

0:52:24.080 --> 0:52:25.920
<v Speaker 1>But the ones you really want to take a strong

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<v Speaker 1>look at is the ones that says access to And

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<v Speaker 1>I've got sixteen you can see. Seven have access to

0:52:31.239 --> 0:52:34.319
<v Speaker 1>my calendar, seven have access to my contacts, eight have

0:52:34.400 --> 0:52:38.080
<v Speaker 1>access to my Google Drive, nine have access to my Gmail.

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<v Speaker 1>And you want to go through there and make sure

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<v Speaker 1>look at every one of those things that are connected,

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<v Speaker 1>make sure they are legitimate. If you don't use that

0:52:45.200 --> 0:52:48.360
<v Speaker 1>app or service anymore, get rid of it, disconnect that

0:52:48.440 --> 0:52:52.279
<v Speaker 1>connection to your Google account. Eight eight eight rich one

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<v Speaker 1>o one eight eight eight seven four two four one

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<v Speaker 1>zero one. I'll link up that Gmail or that Google

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<v Speaker 1>account connections on my website. Rich on tech dot TV

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<v Speaker 1>coming up, we're talking twenty three and me. Welcome back

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<v Speaker 1>to rich on Tech. Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you,

0:53:07.680 --> 0:53:12.399
<v Speaker 1>talking technology at triple eight rich one oh one eight

0:53:12.440 --> 0:53:16.920
<v Speaker 1>eight eight seven four to two four one zero one

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<v Speaker 1>big news this week that twenty three and meters declaring bankruptcy.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a company that went from like six billion

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<v Speaker 1>dollars in market cap to uh think their stock was

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<v Speaker 1>trading under a buck at one point, and uh the

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<v Speaker 1>problem is, you know, you take one of these DNA tests,

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:35.960
<v Speaker 1>which are always a top seller during Amazon Prime days,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>What more you going to do?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure they tried to sell subscriptions and things like that,

0:53:41.560 --> 0:53:44.360
<v Speaker 1>but probably wasn't much they can do with all this

0:53:44.440 --> 0:53:47.520
<v Speaker 1>information unless they were selling it, which hopefully they were not.

0:53:48.280 --> 0:53:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Uh here to talk about what you should do because

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<v Speaker 1>of this information being on their website. Is Colin Walkee,

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<v Speaker 1>a cyber security and data privacy expert.

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<v Speaker 2>Colin, Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Good After which, So what was your immediate thought when

0:54:03.560 --> 0:54:07.319
<v Speaker 1>you heard that twenty three and mes was declaring bankruptcy

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<v Speaker 1>Because a lot of people have their DNA in this

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<v Speaker 1>data bank, My.

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<v Speaker 12>First thought was this can't be good. I would be

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<v Speaker 12>extremely concerned if my data were sitting there and about

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:20.760
<v Speaker 12>to be sold into bankruptcy proceeding to somebody I didn't

0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:21.880
<v Speaker 12>agree to give my data to.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah, so that's the thing I mean twenty three

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<v Speaker 1>and me. If you go on there, you know, data

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<v Speaker 1>protection kind of facts, it's like, oh, yeah, we protect

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:31.240
<v Speaker 1>your data. We you know, hold this in high regard.

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<v Speaker 1>But the problem is the new company that comes in there,

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<v Speaker 1>just by nature of wanting to buy this distressed company,

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<v Speaker 1>is going to want to make money on it.

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<v Speaker 2>And how do they do that.

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<v Speaker 1>They monetize the stuff that this company has, which is

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<v Speaker 1>DNA data.

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<v Speaker 12>That's right, And you know the point that you just

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<v Speaker 12>made their rich was if you look at their terms

0:54:48.719 --> 0:54:51.440
<v Speaker 12>and service they do speak proudly about how well they

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<v Speaker 12>try and protect your information, but they also say in

0:54:54.560 --> 0:54:57.200
<v Speaker 12>there that our terms of service may change at any time.

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<v Speaker 12>So even twenty three and me still Bill and has

0:55:00.960 --> 0:55:03.920
<v Speaker 12>the power to do essentially whatever they want with your data,

0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.520
<v Speaker 12>save and except for any potential state level laws that

0:55:07.600 --> 0:55:11.360
<v Speaker 12>really are applicable. And so, yeah, it is a concerning

0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:16.000
<v Speaker 12>situation because there's very limited options for individuals to have

0:55:16.040 --> 0:55:17.520
<v Speaker 12>control over this data at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>So what happens to sensitive health data when a company

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<v Speaker 1>like this goes bankrupt?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, it's a very good question. I mean, in this

0:55:25.000 --> 0:55:28.839
<v Speaker 12>particular circumstance, that data is in fact an asset, right

0:55:28.880 --> 0:55:32.600
<v Speaker 12>I mean it's worth money. For example, Facebook after the

0:55:32.640 --> 0:55:37.040
<v Speaker 12>Apple Store went into their opt in methodology, claim that

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<v Speaker 12>it cost them ten billion dollars a year in revenue.

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<v Speaker 12>So your data is an asset. It's being bought and

0:55:44.239 --> 0:55:47.400
<v Speaker 12>sold on an open market. And so in this particular case,

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<v Speaker 12>a buyer can come in and buy the entity as

0:55:50.040 --> 0:55:53.680
<v Speaker 12>a whole, or alternatively, if that doesn't happen, the assets

0:55:53.719 --> 0:55:57.799
<v Speaker 12>themselves can be sold off. That obviously, that then does

0:55:57.880 --> 0:56:01.799
<v Speaker 12>beg a question. So, for example, in Tol, their state

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<v Speaker 12>privacy law says that if you have sensitive information, you

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<v Speaker 12>have to get permission before you can collect and process

0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:12.080
<v Speaker 12>that information. So if somebody else buys the company as

0:56:12.120 --> 0:56:14.680
<v Speaker 12>a whole, I don't know that you have to regain

0:56:14.719 --> 0:56:18.279
<v Speaker 12>their permission. If you buy just the assets, it may

0:56:18.280 --> 0:56:20.359
<v Speaker 12>be the case, so that whoever that buyer is then

0:56:20.480 --> 0:56:24.200
<v Speaker 12>has to get further permission. At least for Colorado residents,

0:56:24.880 --> 0:56:28.000
<v Speaker 12>it's a further process their information. But somebody like me

0:56:28.120 --> 0:56:30.160
<v Speaker 12>in Oklahoma, we don't have a data privacy law. They

0:56:30.160 --> 0:56:31.920
<v Speaker 12>can do whatever the heck they want with my data.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so it sounds like it's very mixed depending on

0:56:35.120 --> 0:56:38.160
<v Speaker 1>where you live. And also how this bankruptcy proceeds, how

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:40.480
<v Speaker 1>this company buys this what they label it as.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean, what's the recommendation? I mean, do you

0:56:44.520 --> 0:56:44.840
<v Speaker 2>think so?

0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:47.600
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of attorney generals, at least in California.

0:56:47.640 --> 0:56:50.320
<v Speaker 1>I know they issued a consumer alert saying, hey, you

0:56:50.320 --> 0:56:52.799
<v Speaker 1>should get your stuff out of this database. And by

0:56:52.800 --> 0:56:55.520
<v Speaker 1>the way, it's not just the genetic data, it's also

0:56:55.760 --> 0:56:57.080
<v Speaker 1>the test sample as well.

0:56:57.200 --> 0:57:00.480
<v Speaker 12>Right, that's right, that's right, it's both of those. And

0:57:00.520 --> 0:57:03.120
<v Speaker 12>I mean, you know a couple of things. So, first

0:57:03.120 --> 0:57:05.880
<v Speaker 12>of all, to your question about what should individuals do, Yes,

0:57:06.000 --> 0:57:10.080
<v Speaker 12>absolutely they should try and call or submit forms through

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:12.680
<v Speaker 12>twenty three meters to get their data deleted as well

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:15.600
<v Speaker 12>as their samples deleted as quickly as possible. One of

0:57:15.640 --> 0:57:17.520
<v Speaker 12>the questions that I have that I don't know if

0:57:17.520 --> 0:57:20.080
<v Speaker 12>there's an answer to this, because this is a unique situation.

0:57:20.600 --> 0:57:25.880
<v Speaker 12>Once a bankruptcy preceding occurs, there's what's called the automatic stay,

0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:29.600
<v Speaker 12>which prevents anybody from going after any of the assets

0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:32.400
<v Speaker 12>of the debtor. Well, if I call in the middle

0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:34.800
<v Speaker 12>of a bankruptcy proceeding and I asked for them to

0:57:34.840 --> 0:57:38.240
<v Speaker 12>delete my data, while I'm not a creditor, I do

0:57:38.320 --> 0:57:40.800
<v Speaker 12>have the right to do that. I'm deleting assets from

0:57:40.800 --> 0:57:42.120
<v Speaker 12>the bankruptcy.

0:57:41.640 --> 0:57:45.479
<v Speaker 1>Estate, right because think about it, that's the thing that's

0:57:45.560 --> 0:57:49.160
<v Speaker 1>valuable about twenty three meters is this DNA data? So

0:57:49.640 --> 0:57:52.760
<v Speaker 1>are they And I know people flooded the website because

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<v Speaker 1>it was slow to respond and all this stuff, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, people were asking to have their data deleted.

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<v Speaker 1>We don't actually know if twenty three and me is

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<v Speaker 1>honoring those deletion requests right now.

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<v Speaker 12>That's right, and perhaps more concerning, an FTC report came

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<v Speaker 12>out just last year that said many tech companies like Facebook, Google,

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<v Speaker 12>maybe twenty three and Me, they weren't specifically identified, don't

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<v Speaker 12>even know what all data they have on you or

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<v Speaker 12>who they share it with. So to your point, yeah,

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<v Speaker 12>they may or may not honor those requests, and we

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<v Speaker 12>don't know because it's a black wall behind there now.

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<v Speaker 1>I would imagine in today's age of AI, having the

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<v Speaker 1>DNA of millions of people might be pretty valuable to

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<v Speaker 1>an AI company.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh, not just to an AI company, but to bad

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<v Speaker 12>actors as well. I mean, certainly to AI companies, especially

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<v Speaker 12>if they're good actors looking to do healthcare services, but

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:44.280
<v Speaker 12>even bad actors. I mean, for example, twenty three and

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<v Speaker 12>me just settled a data breach hack from a few

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<v Speaker 12>years ago in which six million of their twenty five

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<v Speaker 12>million records were accessed. And the concerning part is is

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<v Speaker 12>that those six million records were predominantly Oshkenazi, Jews or

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<v Speaker 12>Chinese individuals, meaning this was a targeted hack. And so

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<v Speaker 12>your genetic and data and information like that is sensitive

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<v Speaker 12>and unlike your social Security number or your name, you

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<v Speaker 12>can't change that. So for both good and bad actors,

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<v Speaker 12>there's a ton of value in this type of information.

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<v Speaker 1>It just sounds scary to have now your DNA info

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<v Speaker 1>out there and your I mean, we know our social

0:59:22.320 --> 0:59:24.600
<v Speaker 1>and all the personal information is out there because of

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<v Speaker 1>all these data breaches. Link that up with the data

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<v Speaker 1>with the DNA information. It's like, I mean, what more

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<v Speaker 1>is there about us that we can secretly protect?

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<v Speaker 12>That's right, and that's just it is. I don't think

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<v Speaker 12>people truly appreciate and realize how much their privacy is

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<v Speaker 12>being pilfered through all of the apps and everything that

0:59:42.040 --> 0:59:45.280
<v Speaker 12>they're downloading. Because now not only do I know your location,

0:59:45.400 --> 0:59:48.240
<v Speaker 12>your geolocation from your phone, not only do I know

0:59:48.280 --> 0:59:50.680
<v Speaker 12>your credit card information, but now I know who your

0:59:50.680 --> 0:59:53.760
<v Speaker 12>second and third cousins are, and so that helps exploit

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<v Speaker 12>individuals and deep fake attacks and synthetic fraud.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, I mean, yeah, that's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, the more they can up this information, the

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<v Speaker 1>more they have to to try to defraud us in

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<v Speaker 1>various ways that, by the way, some of these ways

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't thought of yet. And that's what these scammers

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<v Speaker 1>spend their whole day try to figure out, is hey,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on, now we know Rich's cousin, Let's use that

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<v Speaker 1>name to target him in some sort of attack.

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<v Speaker 12>That's right, and then tell the technology developed sufficiently you

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<v Speaker 12>can't predict. So just like in twenty fourteen, twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 12>when everybody was walking around playing Pokemon Go, Yeah, even

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<v Speaker 12>then there were nefarious, you know, issues with that, such

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<v Speaker 12>as geolocation data being sold, et cetera. But now fast

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<v Speaker 12>forward ten years later, we're dealing with AI and robots

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<v Speaker 12>who need to learn how to navigate the real world,

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<v Speaker 12>and they're doing that through everybody's use of Pokemon Go

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<v Speaker 12>because it helped map a three D world that individuals

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<v Speaker 12>were going through.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I've talked about that. The business behind some

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<v Speaker 1>of these companies is the data collection, not like Pokemon

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<v Speaker 1>Go is a fun game. But I mean, look at

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<v Speaker 1>how much that company just sold for. So I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's or the company or the game. I guess the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, scopely bought it, and they bought parts of that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they bought all the data. I

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<v Speaker 1>guess they must have. But the point is, all of

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<v Speaker 1>these services that we use for free, if we are

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<v Speaker 1>not paying for them, we are the.

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<v Speaker 12>Product, absolutely absolutely, And that's what's so just disturbing to

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<v Speaker 12>me is that not only are we voluntarily allowing this

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<v Speaker 12>to happen, but our legislators and those individuals who are

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<v Speaker 12>supposed to be our leaders are permitting this to happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that's the thing. It's like this tech is moving

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly. So what's your recommendation for the twenty three meter?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think people submit that form that says delete

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<v Speaker 1>my information.

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<v Speaker 12>Yes, I mean, as I've spoken to other individuals about this, listen,

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<v Speaker 12>you absolutely should go ahead and try and do everything

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<v Speaker 12>possible that you can to get that information deleted.

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<v Speaker 6>You know.

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<v Speaker 12>The good news is is that they should honor those

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<v Speaker 12>requests at this time, again, absent the bankruptcy law preventing

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<v Speaker 12>them from doing that. But the problem is is that

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<v Speaker 12>it doesn't necessarily eliminate the problem because I don't don't

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<v Speaker 12>know how they handle their DNA. But you could imagine

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<v Speaker 12>a scenario in which they then copy whatever data they

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<v Speaker 12>have of yours and then de identify it so that

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<v Speaker 12>your personal identifiers address, email name, or whatever are removed.

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<v Speaker 12>And in theory, you're like, well, okay, then they can't

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<v Speaker 12>identify me. But the problem is is you note, Rich,

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<v Speaker 12>I just have to find one more data set sitting

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<v Speaker 12>out there on the internet, and if I can find

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<v Speaker 12>a few data points that link back up to the

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<v Speaker 12>twenty three and meters data set, I can reidentify whoever

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<v Speaker 12>I want to.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, mysh, Colin, I am so happy you said this,

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<v Speaker 1>because people do not realize that just because your information

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<v Speaker 1>is d sort of like decoupled from you in a

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<v Speaker 1>personal way, it doesn't mean that these companies are not

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<v Speaker 1>recoupling it up on the back end with other databases.

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<v Speaker 1>And so when you give your email address or phone

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<v Speaker 1>number at a grocery store right for the discount, that

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<v Speaker 1>information is merged with other databases from a whole different

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<v Speaker 1>variety of places, and they come up with this full

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<v Speaker 1>picture of who you are, and it's very crystal clear.

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<v Speaker 12>And I don't know if anybody's ever looked into companies

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<v Speaker 12>like Axiom or others that do these types of data

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<v Speaker 12>brokerage services. But they then label you into categories as

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<v Speaker 12>though are you an influencer or an influenced individual? And

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<v Speaker 12>that's how granularized they can get to who you are

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<v Speaker 12>as an individual to determine how easily you can be manipulated.

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<v Speaker 12>And it's very concerning because they know everything about you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and it's it's these companies love to say like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we're not personally identifying you, but they conveniently leave out

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that, oh, on the back end, we're mixing

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<v Speaker 1>like six or seven databases with a lot of information

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<v Speaker 1>about you, and yes, we know exactly where you are,

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<v Speaker 1>we know what you're watching on TV, we know the

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<v Speaker 1>commercials we saw, and that's we're also going to target

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<v Speaker 1>and add to you on Facebook based on all that stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, this just goes on and on. Colin Walke,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna leave it there. Do you have a website?

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<v Speaker 12>Folks can visit, yes, and just search them a named

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<v Speaker 12>Colin Walkee.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, great, conversation. Hopefully you're going to have you

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<v Speaker 1>on again to talk about some of this privacy stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it is wild absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich thanks for joining me today eight eight eight rich

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<v Speaker 1>one on one eight eight eight seven four to two

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<v Speaker 1>four one zero one. I'll link up the directions on

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<v Speaker 1>how to delete your twenty three and meters genetic data

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<v Speaker 1>on the website rich on tech dot tv. Back after this,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to rich on tech. Rich DeMuro here talking

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<v Speaker 1>technology with you. The website is rich on tech dot tv.

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<v Speaker 1>it out. I've also got the show notes there as well.

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<v Speaker 1>This is episode one fifteen, So if you want the

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<v Speaker 1>link to uh anything I mentioned here on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mentioned earlier the permissions for your Google account

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to review those, I've got the link there,

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<v Speaker 1>the instructions on how to delete your genetic data, how

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<v Speaker 1>to activate that Peacock premium if you're a Spectrum customer,

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<v Speaker 1>A whole bunch of stuff, all the travel stuff, I

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<v Speaker 1>recommend it. It's all on the website rich on tech

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<v Speaker 1>dot TV. Nintendo is working on virtual game cards for

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<v Speaker 1>the switch to. This means it'll be much easier to

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<v Speaker 1>lend your games to family members. I remember when my

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<v Speaker 1>kids got switches a couple of years ago. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>wait a second, do I have to buy two copies

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<v Speaker 1>of the same game so they can play them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>You did, But now they're going to make digital downloads

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<v Speaker 1>work more like physical cartridges, So you can basically send

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<v Speaker 1>one game, buy it once, and send it to another

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<v Speaker 1>Switch on your account, and basically you'll be able to

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<v Speaker 1>lend that game for two weeks. It'll happen over local

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<v Speaker 1>Wi Fi, and after two weeks, the game automatically returns

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<v Speaker 1>the original owner. Of course, you can only lend it

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<v Speaker 1>out to one person at a time, but from everything

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<v Speaker 1>I can see about this, the response online has been incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>People are like, wait a second, is this real a

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<v Speaker 1>company doing something the way that they should have done it, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>we actually liked this idea, and yeah, this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to happen starting late April, So if you've been frustrated

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<v Speaker 1>with lending out your games to family members on the

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<v Speaker 1>Nintendo devices, it will get much easier. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>Nintendo Switch to coming out this year, It's been many

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<v Speaker 1>years since the Switch has come out, it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>an update. Nintendo keeps hinting, and they showed us what

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to look like, but they keep dropping little details.

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<v Speaker 1>The next amount of details are going to come out

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<v Speaker 1>on April second.

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<v Speaker 2>Get it.

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<v Speaker 1>Switch to April second, okay, and a day after April

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<v Speaker 1>Fool's Day, which is smart because if they did on

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<v Speaker 1>April Fool's Day, we would not believe them. But the

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<v Speaker 1>Switch to of course, you know it's gonna be out

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<v Speaker 1>in time for the holidays. That's going to be a

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<v Speaker 1>banana seller and people are gonna buy those things like hotcakes.

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<v Speaker 1>Because even if you had a Switch, you've probably had

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<v Speaker 1>it for a couple of years. Now you're ready for

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<v Speaker 1>an update. And you know, Nintendo devices are never as

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<v Speaker 1>high powered, you know as the xboxes of the world

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<v Speaker 1>or the PlayStations of the world. But they're just fun

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<v Speaker 1>and they're great for the family. And the games, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean the IP they have with all the Mario stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and zell they just keep regurgitating kind of new games

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<v Speaker 1>with their familiar IP that people just love. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>to Mary in Los Angeles. Mary, you're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 4>Mary.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you there?

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<v Speaker 1>Mary had a little call Mary you on. Nope, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>no Mary. Let's see here. How do I drop a call?

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<v Speaker 1>It's been so long since I dropped call. Do I

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<v Speaker 1>just press this button?

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<v Speaker 2>Did I do it?

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<v Speaker 4>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Bobo's like, no, you did not. All right, let's see here.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Eduardo in Tampa. Eduardo, you're on with Rich?

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<v Speaker 2>Are you there?

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<v Speaker 4>Thank you very much?

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<v Speaker 10>Rich, Good afternoon.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey.

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<v Speaker 10>So this has to do with logging in, in particular

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<v Speaker 10>my financial institution. Now I do the delead browsing history,

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<v Speaker 10>the cachet, and you're supposed to get a hex cold

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<v Speaker 10>which you put in there too, acts as your accounts.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, when you first log in, a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 10>It's worked, but like today, I tried it and I

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<v Speaker 10>called customer service, which this is a good institution because

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<v Speaker 10>they're there every day, so if you get locked out,

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<v Speaker 10>you can call them and they can unlock you.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, what happened.

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<v Speaker 10>I did what I was supposed to do. I deleted

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<v Speaker 10>the browsing history, the cache is and all that. And

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<v Speaker 10>I mean, the last couple of times it worked, and

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<v Speaker 10>today it didn't work. So them and he had unlocked

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<v Speaker 10>me and I was able to get in.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So here's the deal. So a lot of times

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<v Speaker 1>with these one time codes, especially with banks, when they

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<v Speaker 1>sense that there's any sort of unusual activity, they are

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<v Speaker 1>going to stop that code from going out. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I've gotten some messages from folks about this Amazon, and

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes what they'll do is on your account, they'll do

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<v Speaker 1>like a lockout time period. So if you've tried, let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you press that button like three times right to

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<v Speaker 1>get that code, They're like, something's not right here. We're

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<v Speaker 1>just going to pause that delivery of that code for

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<v Speaker 1>a while. So I don't know what the secret sauce

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<v Speaker 1>is and they don't really reveal it, and every company

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<v Speaker 1>in bank is different, but it's these fraud systems that

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<v Speaker 1>they're using to try to make sure that nobody's getting

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<v Speaker 1>access to your account. So that's what I'm guessing happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Did they give you any sort of explanation.

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<v Speaker 10>No, I mean I did it a couple of times.

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<v Speaker 10>I don't think I ever did it three times. I

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<v Speaker 10>did it twice in night thought and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Called them okay, So that I mean, who knows what

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<v Speaker 1>triggered it? I mean, but the fact is it was

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<v Speaker 1>triggered after you cleared out your browser, which means typically

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<v Speaker 1>typically when you log into your bank or any sort

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<v Speaker 1>of online account, they're keeping a little bit of data

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<v Speaker 1>on your computer, like a cookie, and so that that

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<v Speaker 1>cookie usually has information about your last log in, whether

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<v Speaker 1>you've already been sort of pre authorized on that account.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's why your username may be saved there. Sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>you use your name on your password and you just

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<v Speaker 1>have to log in and then it gives you that code.

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<v Speaker 2>But there's a.

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<v Speaker 1>Whole, you know, a variety of ways that companies will

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<v Speaker 1>sort of authorize you. Someplaces, you know, like your Gmail,

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<v Speaker 1>it'll just stay logged in forever until something changes, or

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<v Speaker 1>you log out. With your bank, it'll log out automatically.

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<v Speaker 1>But the level of security kind of varies based on

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<v Speaker 1>the account. But if you are clearing your browser history,

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<v Speaker 1>typically it is clearing out those cookies and that cash

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<v Speaker 1>and that is what's making that new login trigger, and

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<v Speaker 1>so if you don't want that to happen, sometimes there

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<v Speaker 1>are ways to clear your just your browsing history, but

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<v Speaker 1>not all the cookies, not all the other stuff, so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can still stay logged in. But in general, Eduardo,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's a good thing that your bank locked

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<v Speaker 1>you out because that means that they're on top of things,

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<v Speaker 1>and hopefully that means your account safer.

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, well, I'm glad I have them for a call in,

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<v Speaker 10>so thank you very much.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, thank you for the call today, and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>that bank is there on a Saturday. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't even want to call these companies anymore

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<v Speaker 1>because you're just like, I don't even know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be you could call any big company

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<v Speaker 1>and they'd have someone there twenty four to seven. Now

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, no, I've called certain companies that I do

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<v Speaker 1>business with, and you cannot believe you call early. They're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>our representatives start at eight am or nine am. You're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>what this used to be a twenty four to seven service.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think we're paying more these days for things

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<v Speaker 1>and we're getting less and these companies just continue to

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<v Speaker 1>find efficiencies with technology that sometimes bug us eighty eight

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<v Speaker 1>rich one on one eight eight eight seven four to two,

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<v Speaker 1>four to one zero one. More of your calls coming

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<v Speaker 1>up right after this. Welcome back to rich On Tech.

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<v Speaker 1>Rich Demiro here hanging out with you talking technology at

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<v Speaker 1>triple eight rich one oh one. That's eight eight eight, seven,

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<v Speaker 1>four to two, four one zero one. Coming up this hour,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got Mark Vena. He is going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Samsung Galaxy S twenty five and how it lured

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<v Speaker 1>him away from the iPhone. Yeah, after seventeen years of

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<v Speaker 1>using it. And I got to say, the reason why

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<v Speaker 1>I want it to have him on the show is

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<v Speaker 1>because it's kind of doing the same thing to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I get the Samsung every year, I play

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<v Speaker 1>with it and it's great, but there was always something

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<v Speaker 1>that kept me from wanting to use it full time.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's the opposite. I have to force myself

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<v Speaker 1>to use the iPhone because you know, if I start

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<v Speaker 1>texting people with those green bubbles, they get all annoyed

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<v Speaker 1>at me. Even though it's gotten a lot better with RCS,

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<v Speaker 1>I was texting someone the other day and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>the RCS stuff is just perfect. It really is, because

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<v Speaker 1>you can see when they get the message, you can

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<v Speaker 1>see when they've read it, you can see when they're typing.

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<v Speaker 1>You can send big photos and videos and they don't

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<v Speaker 1>look all pixelated anymore. So, I mean, I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>that issue is gone, Like, choose the phone that you want,

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<v Speaker 1>don't just choose the one that forces you to stick

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<v Speaker 1>to it because you know you can't get I message

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere else.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait, who's doing that? On my Instagram?

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<v Speaker 1>At richon Tech, guys are having a field day with

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<v Speaker 1>my post.

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<v Speaker 2>It was my wife's birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>We went to Los Alevos, California has some beautiful areas

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<v Speaker 1>just north of la and Losa Levos Wine Country is

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<v Speaker 1>one of them. So anyway, I posted our whole itinerary

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<v Speaker 1>what we did and just how much fun we had,

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<v Speaker 1>and we have literally not been We can't stop talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it because we had such a nice time. Because

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<v Speaker 1>we parked once and we never drove again the whole weekend.

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<v Speaker 1>And to me, that's like when you can do that

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<v Speaker 1>and just walk to all the places you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go and have dinner and wine tasting and all this stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just so fun. So anyway, if we want to

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<v Speaker 1>see that, it's at rich On Tech. Give me a follow.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go to Stanley in Bettsville, Ohio.

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<v Speaker 2>Stanley, you're on.

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<v Speaker 4>With rich Hello rich love your show. And I wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to ask a question that's perplexed me for months. Okay,

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<v Speaker 4>on our company's website, well, actually, any website that I

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<v Speaker 4>go to if there's a YouTube video. When I click

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<v Speaker 4>on it, that YouTube video mini window reappears with the

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<v Speaker 4>message sign in to confirm you're not a bot. This

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<v Speaker 4>helps us protect our community. I cannot figure out how

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<v Speaker 4>to get that YouTube video to play, how to sign

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<v Speaker 4>in to confirm with someone I don't even know who

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<v Speaker 4>to confirm that I'm not a bot.

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<v Speaker 1>So when you help, you said, this is on your

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<v Speaker 1>company computer.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, no, sir, any computer that I use, and on

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<v Speaker 4>any website I access. But it frustates me because on

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<v Speaker 4>our company website for our new startup, if people click

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<v Speaker 4>on that, they won't well I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 4>see the message to confirm they're not a bot or not.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, couple things. So typically when you see this message,

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<v Speaker 1>now we see these messages all the time on our computers.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, it says please confirm, and it makes you

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<v Speaker 1>do all those silly puzzles right where you're sitting there.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like only humans can solve this. You're like, wait

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<v Speaker 1>a second, I can't even solve this thing. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>drag the shape that most closely resembles a fish onto

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<v Speaker 1>the other fish.

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<v Speaker 2>You're like, what, what? Hold on?

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<v Speaker 1>Let me read this thing, and then you've got all

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<v Speaker 1>those things to say verify you're not a rope. So

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<v Speaker 1>websites are using all kinds of ways to avoid bots

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<v Speaker 1>on their sites, to you know, to keep the resources

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<v Speaker 1>down from being overloaded, and also malicious content. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's so many reasons why websites want to verify who

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<v Speaker 1>we are, that we are actually human and really going

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<v Speaker 1>there for a reason, right, not just like scraping or

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<v Speaker 1>using some sort of automated software to buy tickets. So

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<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of reasons why these companies and websites

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<v Speaker 1>make you verify who you are and that you're an

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<v Speaker 1>actual human. Typically, what you're describing is when you are

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<v Speaker 1>using some sort of VPN or a proxy.

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<v Speaker 2>So a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks, especially on the iPhone, they've got this like proxy

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<v Speaker 1>service built in, like this iCloud Private Browsing and so

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<v Speaker 1>it's like some sort of like thing that shields your

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<v Speaker 1>IP address, and a lot of times it's activated if

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<v Speaker 1>you pay for iCloud Plus or something like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>so if you go to a website on your iPhone,

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<v Speaker 1>you might encounter this message that says we have detected

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious activity on your account. You know, we got to

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<v Speaker 1>wait a minute, or you got to refresh to proceed

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever it is. And the reason they're saying that

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<v Speaker 1>is because they're seeing a bunch of requests coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the same IP address, which is Apple servers, right, because

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<v Speaker 1>they're all everything is funneling through this server to try

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<v Speaker 1>to like clear or you know, hide everyone's personal information

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<v Speaker 1>from this website or their IP address, whatever it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So typically Stanley, that is the reason. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>running a VPN, I would try turning that off. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're running some sort of proxy, turn that off. And

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<v Speaker 1>so there are some web browsers like Opera, we'll have

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<v Speaker 1>like a proxy built in, and so you will, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can disable that, try reloading that website without

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<v Speaker 1>that proxy turned on or without that VPN turned on.

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<v Speaker 1>So and also I would do what we talked about

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<v Speaker 1>earlier with Eduardo and Tampa is clear the the browser

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<v Speaker 1>history and cash and see if that helps. So go

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<v Speaker 1>into your settings on Chrome or whatever you're doing, and

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<v Speaker 1>just clear out your delete browsing data. And once you

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<v Speaker 1>delete that, that may help reset things and make it

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<v Speaker 1>so that you don't see that notification every time you

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<v Speaker 1>go to a YouTube video It's interesting that it's happening

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<v Speaker 1>on no matter what computer or account you're on. That

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<v Speaker 1>tells me that it's at a very network level. So

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<v Speaker 1>that could be also a feature on your router that

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<v Speaker 1>you have toggled on, some sort of proxy. I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>it's some sort of proxy or VPN feature, so I

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<v Speaker 1>would check that for sure. A good question. Thanks for

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<v Speaker 1>the question. Let's look at the emails here. We got

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<v Speaker 1>a question from Mark in San Diego. He says, Hey, Rich,

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<v Speaker 1>I really enjoy your show. I live in San Diego

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<v Speaker 1>and MeTV is no longer over the air and free.

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<v Speaker 1>I tried your suggestion to use over the air apps

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<v Speaker 1>on my rokup, but they don't offer me TV. They

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<v Speaker 1>do offer a handful of local stations on a per

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<v Speaker 1>city basis, but no MeTV. So in San Diego, the

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<v Speaker 1>only way to get it is to subscribe to an

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<v Speaker 1>expensive stream. So for just MeTV and that's all I want,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not practical. Can you offer any suggestions to

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<v Speaker 1>get me TV for free? I've heard of MeTV. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not fully familiar with it, but I'm looking at their

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<v Speaker 1>website and it's basically looks like a website. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a like sort of a station that shows older programming.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm looking at the Yeah, Alfred Hitchcock, Adam twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Griffith. So it looks like these like dot two stations,

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<v Speaker 1>Like if you have a station in your area, they

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to this MeTV to sort of air and broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>using one of their secondary channels, so you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>a four dot two four dot three, four dot four

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<v Speaker 1>and it's just basically to use up the airwaves and

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<v Speaker 1>have some sort of programming on there. I checked in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego, putting into the zip code, and it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like it is not available over the air anymore in

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<v Speaker 1>San Diego, so it looks like it's only on the

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<v Speaker 1>cable services cox AT and tu Verse Direct TV. But

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<v Speaker 1>they do have it on Friendly TV, So I'm not sure.

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<v Speaker 1>If you checked. You said expensive streaming. Friendly TV is

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<v Speaker 1>like the cheapest streaming service you can get out there.

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<v Speaker 1>It starts at six dollars and ninety nine cents a month. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you didn't want to pay anything, but I'd

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<v Speaker 1>say seven bucks a month. If you really enjoy this MeTV,

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<v Speaker 1>that might be a decent way of getting it, and

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<v Speaker 1>you can at least try seven days for free, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would at least investigate that, But that's really your

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<v Speaker 1>only way as far as I can tell. It must

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<v Speaker 1>have been that whatever TV station had this MeTV dropped

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<v Speaker 1>it and they switched to something else, or they just

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<v Speaker 1>air their own programming, whatever it is, but you're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be able to get it with an antenna as

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<v Speaker 1>far as I can tell down in San Diego, so

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<v Speaker 1>I would check out the Friendly TV. It's also where

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of people go for Hallmark programming over the

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<v Speaker 1>holidays because it's one of the cheapest ways to get

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<v Speaker 1>the Hallmark channel. But I have a feeling MeTV doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>do its own streaming app because its whole play is

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<v Speaker 1>to sell its programming to these cable providers and also

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<v Speaker 1>the channels that then broadcasted over the air. And so

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<v Speaker 1>if they had their own service, like their own streaming

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<v Speaker 1>app that they charged three four dollars a month for,

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<v Speaker 1>they sort of be cutting into their own business, which

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<v Speaker 1>is selling this channel to these broadcasters.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's probably what's happening there.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for the email, Rich on tech dot TV, Diane

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<v Speaker 1>writes in good morning, good morning. I always want to

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<v Speaker 1>say thank you for your help. Whenever I've emailed, You've

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<v Speaker 1>always responded quickly. Your answers are very helpful. I have

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<v Speaker 1>lots and lots of pictures on my Facebook account. Is

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<v Speaker 1>there any way to back them up? Especially in case

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<v Speaker 1>my account gets hacked?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>So a lot of these major services have what's called

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<v Speaker 1>the takeout and so Facebook has a tool where you

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<v Speaker 1>can go and you can download a full copy of

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<v Speaker 1>your entire account, which includes your photos, your videos, and

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<v Speaker 1>your other content. So if you go to your settings,

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<v Speaker 1>click your profile picture in the top right corner, click

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<v Speaker 1>settings in privacy, then click settings again, then click account center,

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<v Speaker 1>then click your Information and Permission, then click download your information,

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<v Speaker 1>then click download or transfer your information, and that's all

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<v Speaker 1>you have to do. That's it, Diane, Very easy.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>There's not a direct link, so I mean you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to Maybe there is, but I will link it

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<v Speaker 1>up in my in my show notes. But basically you

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<v Speaker 1>can go to is it see A lot of them

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<v Speaker 1>would be like Facebook dot com. Facebook dot com slash

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<v Speaker 1>takeout would be like the easiest way to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if that brings you to know it. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>see Facebook dot com slash takeout. No, that does not

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<v Speaker 1>bring you to it. Don't do not go to that.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't go there. Oh yeah, do not go there. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, now I'm getting spammed. But yes, so you

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<v Speaker 1>do have to go to your Facebook settings and you

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<v Speaker 1>can download your information. But the good news is it

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<v Speaker 1>is pretty simple, and I will link up the instructions

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<v Speaker 1>in the website. But Facebook, for some reason doesn't like

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<v Speaker 1>all of their like settings and things always involve so

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<v Speaker 1>many steps, and I think they do that on purpose,

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<v Speaker 1>just to make life a little bit tougher. The only

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<v Speaker 1>easy Facebook url I know is Facebook dot com slash hacked,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's because so many people get hacked on Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>that they have to have an easy URL where you

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<v Speaker 1>can go and try to regain.

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<v Speaker 2>The security of your account.

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<v Speaker 1>And by the way, when I say people get hacked

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<v Speaker 1>on Facebook, a lot of times it's not necessarily hackers.

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<v Speaker 1>It's really people get tricked into giving up their Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>login information. And they do that through these notifications as say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a copyright infringement on your account or some sort

1:22:35.560 --> 1:22:38.000
<v Speaker 1>of problem, and you log in real quick and you've

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<v Speaker 1>just given up your account. So Rich on tech dot

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<v Speaker 1>tv for instructions on how to back up your Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>photos eight eight eight rich one O one eight eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight seven four to two four one zero one. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to rich on Tech. Let's go to uh Mark,

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<v Speaker 1>Mark and Tarzana Mark.

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<v Speaker 2>You're on with Rich.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, Hi, Rich, I've been listening a long time. It's

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<v Speaker 8>my first time calling it. Great to have you after

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<v Speaker 8>Leo Laporte.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh well, thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>I'm in the market for a new computer, looking for

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<v Speaker 8>all in one or a desktop perfectly and all in

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<v Speaker 8>one with at least a two terabyte hard drive. You

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<v Speaker 8>have any suggestion.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you have a preference Mac or PC? Windows Windows? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So a couple of things. First off, I always recommend

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<v Speaker 1>folks look at Costco because they typically stock one to

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<v Speaker 1>two all in one computers and they are a very

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<v Speaker 1>good deal every time, and the specs you get there

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<v Speaker 1>are usually better than what you would get anywhere else. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that you're asking about is a two terabyte

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<v Speaker 1>hard drive. Most of the time when I go there,

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<v Speaker 1>I most of the time I'm seeing a one terabyte

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<v Speaker 1>hard drive. That could be different these days, but that's

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<v Speaker 1>the main downside of getting it from a place like

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<v Speaker 1>Costco is that they're probably not going to have that

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<v Speaker 1>two terabyte hard drive unless they do. If they do,

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<v Speaker 1>then great, That's where I start if you have a

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<v Speaker 1>costco membership. Otherwise I would look at some highly rated

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<v Speaker 1>systems like an HP Envy all in one. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's a great system and you can get it

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<v Speaker 1>with a two terabyte hard drive, or I would just

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<v Speaker 1>go to I mean, if you want to build it yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>you can go to somewhere like Dell dot com and

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<v Speaker 1>get the two terabyte hard drive. The thing is most

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<v Speaker 1>of the computers, a lot of.

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<v Speaker 2>Them have where are you. You're in Tarzana.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say there's a great place called Microcenter

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<v Speaker 1>down in Tustin, but that's too far from you to go.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would recommend. I mean, I think the iMac

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<v Speaker 1>all in one is a great computer. But you did

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<v Speaker 1>want a Windows PC. But I'm looking at some of

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<v Speaker 1>the recent reviews and the HP comes up pretty high.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see if you want something that's on Amazon, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the hps score very high. Yeah, Acers, I'll a sus.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if they make let me see if

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<v Speaker 1>they make it. I like the asuses recently. I think

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<v Speaker 1>they're doing great on laptops. Yeah, I don't see as

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<v Speaker 1>many as the ace US and the all in one.

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<v Speaker 1>They probably have them. But I think what it really

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<v Speaker 1>comes down to, Mark is when you go to best

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<v Speaker 1>Buy or wherever you go, you're looking for the specs

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<v Speaker 1>that are going to make sure this computer lasts for

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<v Speaker 1>a bit. So again, I think that's depending on what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing. Since you want that two terabyte drive, maybe

1:25:28.760 --> 1:25:31.040
<v Speaker 1>you want a better processor, So I would say at

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<v Speaker 1>least an Intel five seven is going to give you

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<v Speaker 1>a much faster speed, and then same thing with the AMD.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go five or seven, that's really what you want.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want anything below a five at this point.

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<v Speaker 1>And then with the memory, I always say sixteen gigs

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<v Speaker 1>a RAM minimum, But if you're really outfitting this thing

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<v Speaker 1>like I went thirty two last time, it just gets

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<v Speaker 1>very expensive. That's the unfortunate side of memory. When you're

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<v Speaker 1>getting it the day that you buy the computer, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the hard drive two terabytes, it's very reasonable. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what I did on my last computer. So the higher

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<v Speaker 1>you go with these specs, the more you're gonna spend.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's basically what's going on, because most people are

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<v Speaker 1>getting that. You know that simple, simple, processor, hard drive

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<v Speaker 1>at five twelve or maybe a terrorbyte, and the memory

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<v Speaker 1>at sixteen gigs, so good luck. Feel free to email

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<v Speaker 1>me if you you know. Some people will email me

1:26:21.080 --> 1:26:23.840
<v Speaker 1>if they're trying to decide between two things. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>what I would do, is start at Costco. That's usually

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<v Speaker 1>the best place to start.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for the call. Mark. Pixel nine A.

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<v Speaker 1>We talked about this. Google's like mid range phone. I

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<v Speaker 1>would call it their budget phone. It's under five hundred dollars.

1:26:36.760 --> 1:26:39.799
<v Speaker 1>They announced it last week, but there was a delay

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<v Speaker 1>because of some sort of issue with a component quality situation,

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<v Speaker 1>and so now they have said, okay, I guess that's

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<v Speaker 1>figured out. They got back to the drawing board, they

1:26:49.800 --> 1:26:52.400
<v Speaker 1>figured out what was happening, and the release date is

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<v Speaker 1>April tenth. So this is a phone that is pretty fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though I haven't played with it just yet, I

1:26:59.160 --> 1:27:01.000
<v Speaker 1>can just tell. Because it's a Pixel, it's gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>great software. It's got a decent chip inside, It's got

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<v Speaker 1>eight gigs a RAM up to two hundred and fifty

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<v Speaker 1>fifty six gigs of storage, got a nice big screen,

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<v Speaker 1>brighter than before, great refresh rate, big battery, good IP rating,

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<v Speaker 1>so IP sixty eight, which means gonna be water and

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<v Speaker 1>dust resistant, and it's got that great Google software that's,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, updated for seven years. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for a budget phone, you want a great Android

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<v Speaker 1>you don't really necessarily care about the iPhone side of things,

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<v Speaker 1>go with the Pixel nine A I mean five hundred

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<v Speaker 1>bucks launching April tenth. This is their answer to the

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone sixteen E that's five ninety nine, which is also

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<v Speaker 1>great if you are on the iPhone side of things.

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<v Speaker 1>And Disney Plus, by the way, getting a feature users

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<v Speaker 1>have been asking for for a while, the ability to

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<v Speaker 1>remove shows and movies from the continue watching row. I

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<v Speaker 1>know it sounds silly, but you weren't able to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you started watching a movie or a show,

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<v Speaker 1>it would just linger there forever. So this is helpful

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<v Speaker 1>if you started something or didn't finish something and you

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<v Speaker 1>just want to get it away from your screen.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is rolling out. It's starting on Apple TV,

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<v Speaker 1>mobile and Web. So on Apple TV can press and

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<v Speaker 1>hold the center button on a title, then select remove.

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<v Speaker 1>On mobile or web, tap the three dots next to

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<v Speaker 1>a title and choose remove. So more devices will get

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<v Speaker 1>this feature soon I mean, can you believe they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>have this for a while. I mean if you started

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<v Speaker 1>watching like some silly movie on Disney Plus and you're like, ah,

1:28:33.160 --> 1:28:35.960
<v Speaker 1>that movie's bad, it'll just linger there forever, and it's

1:28:35.960 --> 1:28:39.080
<v Speaker 1>like it just haunts you. Now you can finally get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of the ghosts on your Disney Plus screen. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll put links to all of these things on my

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<v Speaker 1>website rich on Tech dot tv, also the Instagram at

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<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech. Coming up, we're gonna talk Samsung versus iPhone.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Vina is going to talk about why he has

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<v Speaker 1>ditched his iPhone in favor of Samsung. Right here on

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<v Speaker 1>rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech. Rich

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<v Speaker 1>DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology. The website

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<v Speaker 1>for the show rich on Tech dot tv.

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<v Speaker 2>That's real.

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<v Speaker 1>Find links to everything I mentioned here on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I got an email about callers or I guess listeners

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<v Speaker 1>looking for my Wine Country recommendations. That's on my instagram

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<v Speaker 1>at rich on Tech. You got to go there. Like

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I spent the weekend last weekend, b lined

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<v Speaker 1>it after the show and went up to Wine Country

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<v Speaker 1>at my wife.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've got my recommendations there.

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<v Speaker 1>Feel free to steal at itinerary if you're ever going

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<v Speaker 1>to visit California or if you're in the area. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>my next guest is Mark Vena. He is the CEO

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<v Speaker 1>and principal analyst at smart Tech Research. He ditched his

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone recently for the Samsung Galaxy S twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to talk about it. Welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 13>Mark Rich, How are you this afternoon?

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<v Speaker 2>Good?

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<v Speaker 1>I typically see you, you know, somewhere in the world,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on where we are, but it's good to hear

1:30:04.400 --> 1:30:06.880
<v Speaker 1>your voice. And you know you're always making the rounds

1:30:06.880 --> 1:30:09.479
<v Speaker 1>because you're an analyst. To explain what an analyst does,

1:30:09.520 --> 1:30:10.240
<v Speaker 1>by the way.

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<v Speaker 13>Well, technology we really have great jobs.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you do.

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<v Speaker 13>That's what you're doing.

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<v Speaker 14>You're looking at the landscape, the technology landscape, and you

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<v Speaker 14>try to make call balls and strikes and what companies

1:30:21.000 --> 1:30:24.439
<v Speaker 14>are doing right, what are they operating in interesting markets?

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<v Speaker 14>You know, what is the market looks like from a

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<v Speaker 14>tailwind standpoint or a headwind standpoint.

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<v Speaker 13>One of the great parts of the job.

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<v Speaker 14>And you know, even though you're not an analyst, you

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<v Speaker 14>know you're you are in the.

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<v Speaker 13>Technology coverage area.

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<v Speaker 14>We get lots of free stuff, you know, and you're

1:30:38.920 --> 1:30:41.599
<v Speaker 14>you're constantly getting samples somethink my house looks like Best

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<v Speaker 14>Buy sometimes, and but it gives you an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 14>play with the technology and evaluated. And it's, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>one of the most exciting things I've done in my career.

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<v Speaker 1>Because if an analyst says, oh, this is great, this

1:30:52.960 --> 1:30:54.400
<v Speaker 1>is the next best thing, it's kind of like a

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<v Speaker 1>journalist giving a good review.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, oh, this is something want So I hate

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<v Speaker 2>to use.

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<v Speaker 14>That word influencer, but I guess I am an influencer.

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<v Speaker 14>I hate that, but because it's too it's just twenty

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<v Speaker 14>twenty five ish. But you know, I am sure.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, you get a lot.

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<v Speaker 14>Of inquiries from from your listeners, from your TV appearances.

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<v Speaker 13>I get every time I do something on.

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<v Speaker 14>ABC News or a network news channel, or I'm sure

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<v Speaker 14>I'll get, you know, emails appearing on your radio show.

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<v Speaker 13>Mark, you know, do you really mean what you wrote about?

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<v Speaker 8>Is it?

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<v Speaker 13>Are you really giving up your Apple iPhone?

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<v Speaker 14>And in this particular case, you know, the the publication

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<v Speaker 14>I wrote on Tech Newsworld, it is a great, great publication.

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<v Speaker 14>The editor there why we're very close relationship with he

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<v Speaker 14>encourages me to write on things that are a bit controversial,

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<v Speaker 14>and I try.

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<v Speaker 13>To be fair, I try to be balanced.

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<v Speaker 14>And this one was a hard one for me, rich

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<v Speaker 14>because I've been in the Apple ecosystem for more than

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<v Speaker 14>a decade, you know. I mean, I bought the first

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<v Speaker 14>Apple iPhone that came out in two thousand and seven,

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<v Speaker 14>and I you know, I drank the kool aid, so

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<v Speaker 14>to speak, and I really fell in love with it.

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<v Speaker 13>And it was hard.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, you you excited some things earlier before I

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<v Speaker 14>came on your show that you know, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 14>been getting these Samsung phones regularly, and you know, what

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<v Speaker 14>is it going to take for me to you know,

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<v Speaker 14>to move off the schneid, so to speak. And you know,

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<v Speaker 14>the the S twenty five Ultra and the S twenty

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<v Speaker 14>five Standard one, but I'm the one I'm I compared.

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<v Speaker 13>It to is the Ultra.

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<v Speaker 14>It's a great phone, you know, and and it's it's

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<v Speaker 14>i mean harder and harder to find reasons that well,

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<v Speaker 14>why do why do I want to stay in the

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<v Speaker 14>Apple ecosystem?

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<v Speaker 13>And we'll we'll talk about that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Well that that's the thing, is like there's always

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<v Speaker 1>some little thing that kind of kept me back. And

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<v Speaker 1>this year is really the first year where I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm turning to the Samsung much more than the iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>because it's just it's kind of fun. I mean, Samsung

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<v Speaker 1>has always thrown a lot of features at the wall

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<v Speaker 1>and and kind of some stick, some don't. But what

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<v Speaker 1>was sort of the main thing for you? What was

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<v Speaker 1>the thing that, like you started using the Samsung, You're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to stick with this.

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<v Speaker 13>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>Really, the main thing is is that the camera capability,

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<v Speaker 14>both video and image photography is is stunning.

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<v Speaker 13>You know.

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<v Speaker 14>Not to say that the Apple iPhone sixteen Pro isn't

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<v Speaker 14>it isn't a very solid phone, Apple, I'm sorry. Samsung

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<v Speaker 14>has always had a pretty good lever in that space

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<v Speaker 14>because of their technology with sensors and uh, They've got

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<v Speaker 14>this great relationship with Qualcomm. I think I saw you

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<v Speaker 14>at the Qualcom event last time I saw you, and

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<v Speaker 14>they are really the magic the technology ingreading behind the scenes.

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<v Speaker 14>And and not to say that Apple Silicon isn't great.

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<v Speaker 14>Qualcomm has done a fantastic job of really you know,

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<v Speaker 14>rising to the occasion with its latest Snapdragon technology. They're

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<v Speaker 14>playing a great role now as you know, in PCs

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<v Speaker 14>kind of you know, reshaping that category.

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<v Speaker 13>But for me, it was really the camera capability, uh,

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<v Speaker 13>the RCS cable. It's funny that you reference that.

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<v Speaker 14>Now, there is a downside of of going through the

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<v Speaker 14>using a a Android phone when you're using a I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 14>a Apple iPhone when you're using it with a Windows

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<v Speaker 14>PC and we'll talk.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's the thing is. It's like, I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>a bummer.

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<v Speaker 13>Practically, that's a big bummer for me. It's a big bump.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, here's look, at the end of the day, Apple

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't really do anything to make their products easier to

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<v Speaker 1>use with any other products, whereas in the tech world,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know this, the whole beauty of tech is

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<v Speaker 1>like interoperability, right, Like the whole thing is like things

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<v Speaker 1>should work together. And that's the problem is like Apple

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<v Speaker 1>is amazing if you have a MacBook or an iPad

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<v Speaker 1>and an iPhone, it's an incredible cohesive ecosystem AirPods. But

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as you try to like mix and match,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, that doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 13>Oh that great is exactly the problem.

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<v Speaker 14>And the problem is is for that joy of operating

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<v Speaker 14>the Apple ecosystem, they extract the premium and when you

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<v Speaker 14>go out and buy a MacBook Pro or a MacBook Air,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, let's face it. I mean I regularly get

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<v Speaker 14>a MacBook Pro every time they rev v models because

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<v Speaker 14>I use it for video editing and things like that.

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<v Speaker 14>And you're paying for the five thousand dollars where you

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<v Speaker 14>can get a comparable Windows PC gel and a p

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<v Speaker 14>and a number of others make very very fine qualcom

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<v Speaker 14>Snapdragon based PCs and others. I had mentioned Intel, but

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<v Speaker 14>that's a different story.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a whole other story.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, but the fact of the matter is you can

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<v Speaker 14>get into into the Windows.

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<v Speaker 13>The Windows ecosystem is a lot more affordable.

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<v Speaker 14>And that frustrates me because to your point, Apple, it

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<v Speaker 14>doesn't have to be that way. But remember which everything

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<v Speaker 14>that Apple does, and I suspect I'm an old marketing guy.

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<v Speaker 14>If I was Greg Joswiak or one of the big

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<v Speaker 14>scene of leaders at Apple, I probably would do everything

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<v Speaker 14>I can to keep you in the ecosystem.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's been on record.

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<v Speaker 1>That's you know, that's why I Message is not available

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<v Speaker 1>as an app on any other platform. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like people stick to Apple because they've got their eye

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<v Speaker 1>messages in there. And again, yes, it's gotten easier with RCS,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's still you know, it's a blue bubble thing,

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<v Speaker 1>it's an ecosystem thing.

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<v Speaker 13>But still that's the same thing.

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<v Speaker 14>And truth be told because I'm sure there will be

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<v Speaker 14>people that will email Mark there.

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<v Speaker 13>There are solutions to.

1:35:57.920 --> 1:36:02.040
<v Speaker 14>Allow you to use text message Apple text messaging on

1:36:02.080 --> 1:36:05.360
<v Speaker 14>a Windows PC. The reality is they're all kluegy, They're

1:36:05.360 --> 1:36:06.839
<v Speaker 14>all they all attached to Bluetooth.

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<v Speaker 13>You got to sink it and everything.

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<v Speaker 14>It's not as clean and seamless as the Apple experienced.

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<v Speaker 1>But you said you miss eye mess in your article.

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<v Speaker 1>You said you miss eye message, you missed air drop.

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, that is true. That is true.

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<v Speaker 14>And anybody who uses large video files like you and

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<v Speaker 14>I do, that air drop features a very cool feature.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, you could just be you could be a

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<v Speaker 14>hotel room and as long as it recognizes that Apple

1:36:29.080 --> 1:36:31.040
<v Speaker 14>device in your room, you can transfer that file very

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<v Speaker 14>very quickly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, what about this the low key perk you mentioned,

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<v Speaker 1>the wireless power share.

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<v Speaker 14>I think that's an I think that's an interesting benefit

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<v Speaker 14>and I and it's interesting because you know, the challenge

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<v Speaker 14>that Apples had with iPhones has been battery life now

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<v Speaker 14>I've gotten Obviously, if you get the if you get

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<v Speaker 14>the Pro Max, that has the larger battery, and you're

1:36:54.640 --> 1:36:56.840
<v Speaker 14>going to get really really good battery life. But if

1:36:56.880 --> 1:36:59.600
<v Speaker 14>you use these sixteen the non either the sixteen or

1:36:59.640 --> 1:37:02.320
<v Speaker 14>the sixteen Pro, the smaller format, that's going to have

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<v Speaker 14>a smaller battery, and you're probably not going to get

1:37:04.680 --> 1:37:07.599
<v Speaker 14>the battery life that you'd like. Now, Samsung I think

1:37:07.640 --> 1:37:09.720
<v Speaker 14>has done I mean, what's your point of view. I

1:37:09.720 --> 1:37:11.680
<v Speaker 14>think Samsung has done a really good job in the

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<v Speaker 14>battery life department.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, look, I think that the the S twenty

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<v Speaker 1>five I gave a glowing review this year. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I really said, like, the only thing keeping people from

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<v Speaker 1>this phone is really if they are just an iPhone

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<v Speaker 1>die hard. And let's be honest. You know, it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be the whole thing was like should I go

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<v Speaker 1>iPhone or Android? And now it's the market has matured

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<v Speaker 1>so much that I don't see as many people wanting

1:37:34.520 --> 1:37:38.120
<v Speaker 1>to switch because they're so heavily invested and in one

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<v Speaker 1>ecosystem or the other. And so I think it's really

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<v Speaker 1>tough for these companies to even get people to switch

1:37:43.200 --> 1:37:46.320
<v Speaker 1>at this point. And I think both have their pros

1:37:46.360 --> 1:37:46.679
<v Speaker 1>and cons.

1:37:46.720 --> 1:37:47.519
<v Speaker 2>I mean, they really do.

1:37:47.760 --> 1:37:49.519
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And I think you know, you said that the

1:37:49.560 --> 1:37:53.720
<v Speaker 1>one UI was excellent. It's more customizable. But Apple, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they have all the apps, they have all the accessories

1:37:55.800 --> 1:37:57.280
<v Speaker 1>that are just you know, everywhere.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean from that perspective,

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, that was kind of the joyous thing when

1:38:01.479 --> 1:38:03.960
<v Speaker 14>I made the transfer. When I made the transfer, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>Samsung does a pretty good job of moving your data

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<v Speaker 14>from an iPhone to the new Samsung.

1:38:10.000 --> 1:38:10.920
<v Speaker 13>I was delighted with that.

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<v Speaker 14>I couldn't find an app that I was using on

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<v Speaker 14>the iPhone that was not available on the on the

1:38:16.880 --> 1:38:20.640
<v Speaker 14>Samsung Android platform. Now, I will point out something that

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<v Speaker 14>it's a little bit of an inside baseball thing.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, I've got a significant other who lives in.

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<v Speaker 14>Northern LA area, and she's got a couple of teenage daughters.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, I don't think I could extract an iPhone

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<v Speaker 14>from a private iPhone from her because she probably provides

1:38:35.880 --> 1:38:38.640
<v Speaker 14>tech support for her kids, and she does, and she

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<v Speaker 14>does not want to have to deal with well how

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<v Speaker 14>do you do this? And an A on a Samsung

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<v Speaker 14>phone or a non Samsung Samsung Android phone.

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<v Speaker 13>So there is some.

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<v Speaker 14>Benefit to that. There always has been. But I would

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<v Speaker 14>say that if you do want to make the plunge,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, and make that transfer and jump into the

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<v Speaker 14>non Apple ecosystem that is Samsung, I would recommend people

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<v Speaker 14>stay with all Samsung phones because even though Android phones

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<v Speaker 14>in theory rich as you know, are supposed to have

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<v Speaker 14>a somewhat common look and feel.

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<v Speaker 13>You know, if you buy an Android phone from Huawei,

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<v Speaker 13>you buy.

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<v Speaker 14>A phone, a phone, a not a Samsung phone, but

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<v Speaker 14>a non Samsung Android phone.

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<v Speaker 13>All those phone OEMs.

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<v Speaker 14>Are going to try to add their a little you know,

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<v Speaker 14>secret sauce to make the interface a little bit different

1:39:22.120 --> 1:39:25.519
<v Speaker 14>and a little bit you know, more compelling, and that

1:39:25.560 --> 1:39:28.120
<v Speaker 14>creates confusion, you know, that's happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and I agree, and I and I do tell

1:39:29.760 --> 1:39:31.920
<v Speaker 1>people that. I say, look, if your friends and family

1:39:31.960 --> 1:39:34.120
<v Speaker 1>have one, it's an easy way to ask for help,

1:39:34.320 --> 1:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>is you know, if they already know what they're doing

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<v Speaker 1>on it. All right, Mark, We're gonna have to leave

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<v Speaker 1>it there. The website for Mark is smart tech research

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<v Speaker 1>dot net, smart tech research dot net. Real quick, I

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<v Speaker 1>got thirty seconds. Has anyone giving you a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of issue at your green bubbles?

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<v Speaker 13>Yes, I do that. But the reality is I think

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<v Speaker 13>people do understand. I mean, but there is a thing

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<v Speaker 13>out there. As you know, when.

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<v Speaker 14>People see the bubbles you automatically, well, you know that

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<v Speaker 14>you're not You're not an Apple US.

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<v Speaker 13>There's kind of a how it feels in the McCoy's

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<v Speaker 13>by default.

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<v Speaker 1>Apple did that on purpose. That's that's the thing. Just

1:40:08.640 --> 1:40:10.120
<v Speaker 1>send them the article. Just send them the link to

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<v Speaker 1>the article.

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<v Speaker 13>Mark, but it's a good world.

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<v Speaker 1>Mark Vina smart techresearch dot net. Thanks for joining me

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<v Speaker 1>today talk about iPhone versus Samsung.

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<v Speaker 13>Hey, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>it on and set a shortcut. And on Chrome go

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<v Speaker 1>to Settings Accessibility, Keyboard and text Input toggle on dictation.

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<v Speaker 1>These don't have those fancy AI features you were talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>but they get the job done without needing any extra software.

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<v Speaker 1>Keep up the good work, thank you, Leo. Tony from

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<v Speaker 1>Oshkosh writes in after listening on WTAQ, when you were

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<v Speaker 1>mentioning Fax machines, you missed the mark a bit when

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<v Speaker 1>they came into use. The US Army was using them

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<v Speaker 1>regularly in the late nineteen seventies. Massive machines impractical for

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<v Speaker 1>most civilians unless you had serious mind honey. Fun fact,

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<v Speaker 1>Fax technology actually started in eighteen forty three, and by

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen eighty eight you could fax the signature. This will

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<v Speaker 1>be on the test, so make a note of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks Tony. I was saying all that tech when I

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<v Speaker 1>did the nostalgia tech when I came across it, not

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<v Speaker 1>when it started.

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<v Speaker 2>But thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Scott from Battlecreek, Michigan. Listening on thirteen twenty Wils writes in,

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<v Speaker 1>I was listening to your show and I heard your

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<v Speaker 1>discussion about saving bank or credit union statements. I'm low tech.

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<v Speaker 1>I still get my mailed to me. I once asked

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<v Speaker 1>how far bank how far back I could access statements

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<v Speaker 1>if needed. They told me only three years. I've had

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<v Speaker 1>to check statements older than that, so I'm glad I

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<v Speaker 1>kept the paper copies. Your listeners might want to ask

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<v Speaker 1>their banks or credit unions how far back they can go.

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<v Speaker 1>It might surprise them. And yes, Scott, great, Yes, great tip.

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<v Speaker 1>Because my one of my bank accounts only goes back

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<v Speaker 1>like one hundred and eighty days or something. It's very short. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it's less for them to keep. Diane writes in,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm listening to your pot cast for the second time.

1:43:01.400 --> 1:43:03.519
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to miss a thing. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>share how I back up my credit cards in case

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<v Speaker 1>they're lost or stolen. I make a copy of the

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<v Speaker 1>front and the back of each card, especially since the

1:43:10.640 --> 1:43:13.360
<v Speaker 1>back has the important phone numbers to call. I keep

1:43:13.400 --> 1:43:16.080
<v Speaker 1>that paper in a safe place just in case. Diane,

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<v Speaker 1>that is a great tip I do that. I actually

1:43:18.920 --> 1:43:21.839
<v Speaker 1>used to do this once a year. Photo copy everything

1:43:21.880 --> 1:43:25.559
<v Speaker 1>in your wallet, so all of your cards front and back,

1:43:25.640 --> 1:43:28.760
<v Speaker 1>and your driver's license and your passport, and that way,

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<v Speaker 1>if anything ever gets lost or stolen, you have an

1:43:31.240 --> 1:43:33.640
<v Speaker 1>easy way to recover it, or at least start on

1:43:33.680 --> 1:43:36.559
<v Speaker 1>the path of recovery. But great, great thing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>also very smart to do before you go on a

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<v Speaker 1>big trip. Photocopy your wallet. Put a copy of that,

1:43:42.240 --> 1:43:46.920
<v Speaker 1>maybe in your suitcase, obviously somewhere safe. Andrew from Oakland

1:43:47.000 --> 1:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>writes in I've been a tech listener on KFI, going

1:43:49.200 --> 1:43:51.840
<v Speaker 1>all the way back to Jeff Levy, and I can't

1:43:51.880 --> 1:43:55.080
<v Speaker 1>tell you how much I enjoy your show. You strike

1:43:55.120 --> 1:43:58.120
<v Speaker 1>the right balance of tech info and nostalgia. How it

1:43:58.160 --> 1:44:00.439
<v Speaker 1>all fits into our lives is what really makes your

1:44:00.479 --> 1:44:03.439
<v Speaker 1>show stand out. During today's show, I guess this was

1:44:03.520 --> 1:44:05.559
<v Speaker 1>last week your story about the evolution of how we

1:44:05.600 --> 1:44:09.120
<v Speaker 1>consume media, from Walkman's to CDs really hit home. I

1:44:09.160 --> 1:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>live for music and work in entertainment, and it instantly

1:44:12.040 --> 1:44:14.559
<v Speaker 1>brought back memories of my own tech milestones, my first

1:44:14.560 --> 1:44:17.720
<v Speaker 1>portable CD player, the Rio, which I also had I

1:44:17.800 --> 1:44:21.000
<v Speaker 1>forgot to mention that last week, and eventually the iPod.

1:44:21.000 --> 1:44:23.040
<v Speaker 1>I even have a little museum of all those devices.

1:44:23.040 --> 1:44:25.519
<v Speaker 1>And yes, I still have that very first CD player.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't work, and I'm glad I kept it.

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<v Speaker 2>Great show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you from an avid listener. Well, thank you, Andrew.

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<v Speaker 1>That means a lot. Stephen Marsha writ in my rich

1:44:36.080 --> 1:44:38.120
<v Speaker 1>my wife and I watch you each morning on TV.

1:44:38.240 --> 1:44:41.599
<v Speaker 1>We have learned so much. Thank you well, Steven Marsha,

1:44:41.720 --> 1:44:44.559
<v Speaker 1>thank you for watching. It sounds like I'm doing what

1:44:44.640 --> 1:44:47.720
<v Speaker 1>I set out to do. And Aaron writes in do

1:44:47.760 --> 1:44:49.719
<v Speaker 1>you noticees get nicer as they go along?

1:44:50.280 --> 1:44:51.200
<v Speaker 2>I order them that way.

1:44:51.280 --> 1:44:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Bud about to say that, yeah, they get nicer as

1:44:54.040 --> 1:44:57.920
<v Speaker 1>we go along. Aaron writes in, I've learned a lot

1:44:58.000 --> 1:45:00.760
<v Speaker 1>from listening to your program and find you much more

1:45:00.840 --> 1:45:04.680
<v Speaker 1>enjoyable to listen to, much more enjoyable than what I

1:45:04.720 --> 1:45:08.760
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe the competition everything from knowledge about the

1:45:08.800 --> 1:45:11.400
<v Speaker 1>newest and greatest gadget to the nitty gritty of how

1:45:11.400 --> 1:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>to fix something. You walk people through a situation, giving

1:45:14.439 --> 1:45:16.760
<v Speaker 1>them a confidence that they can do it, when on

1:45:16.800 --> 1:45:18.960
<v Speaker 1>the other side, we're afraid to make a move for

1:45:19.040 --> 1:45:21.920
<v Speaker 1>fear of messing things up. Even more, thank you again,

1:45:22.240 --> 1:45:25.280
<v Speaker 1>Erin Erin. That is my goal is to give you

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<v Speaker 1>that confidence. You're not going to break something, You're not

1:45:27.720 --> 1:45:30.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna mess something up. So many people are afraid of

1:45:30.200 --> 1:45:33.840
<v Speaker 1>just like using their technology, because something is gonna break

1:45:34.040 --> 1:45:37.679
<v Speaker 1>or get broke, just whatever. So many things that people

1:45:37.720 --> 1:45:40.400
<v Speaker 1>are scared of. And my whole job is to make

1:45:40.439 --> 1:45:43.800
<v Speaker 1>this stuff seem fun and enjoyable. And so if you're

1:45:43.800 --> 1:45:48.160
<v Speaker 1>not trying to break stuff, you're not using your gadgets enough.

1:45:48.520 --> 1:45:52.439
<v Speaker 1>So definitely try to break things. Um, okay, we oh,

1:45:52.520 --> 1:45:56.920
<v Speaker 1>we have one more. Let's see here. Victor from Ermont.

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<v Speaker 1>I just discovered your show on wo and I'm hooked.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Victor, I love it. We just added an

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<v Speaker 1>affiliate in New York City, as you know WR seven ten,

1:46:08.439 --> 1:46:12.000
<v Speaker 1>and people have been finding us there on Sunday nights

1:46:12.080 --> 1:46:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and we do appreciate it because that is where I'm from.

1:46:14.920 --> 1:46:16.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm from New Jersey and so being on in New

1:46:17.040 --> 1:46:20.000
<v Speaker 1>York City has been a lifelong dream of mine and

1:46:20.040 --> 1:46:23.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that we're resonating with the show there. We've

1:46:23.240 --> 1:46:25.080
<v Speaker 1>got so much more on the website rich on tech

1:46:25.120 --> 1:46:27.679
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1:46:36.200 --> 1:46:39.200
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1:46:39.240 --> 1:46:41.800
<v Speaker 1>of this show. You can find links everything I mentioned

1:46:41.840 --> 1:46:44.040
<v Speaker 1>on my website. Just go to rich on tech dot tv.

1:46:44.160 --> 1:46:46.160
<v Speaker 1>You can find me on social media. I am at

1:46:46.200 --> 1:46:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you guessed it. Rich on tech Next week we're going

1:46:49.000 --> 1:46:52.439
<v Speaker 1>to talk to Joel Santo Domingo of The Wirecutter. He's

1:46:52.479 --> 1:46:56.120
<v Speaker 1>going to break down mesh networking, what it is, why

1:46:56.160 --> 1:46:58.760
<v Speaker 1>it matters, and the best systems to buy. If you

1:46:58.800 --> 1:47:00.559
<v Speaker 1>want better Wi Fi in your home.

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<v Speaker 2>That's going to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks so much for listening. I know there are so

1:47:03.880 --> 1:47:05.880
<v Speaker 1>many ways you can spend your time. I really do

1:47:05.960 --> 1:47:09.120
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you spending it right here with me. Thanks to

1:47:09.160 --> 1:47:11.519
<v Speaker 1>everyone who makes this show possible. We've got Bobo on

1:47:11.600 --> 1:47:15.120
<v Speaker 1>the board, We've got Kim on the phones, We've got

1:47:15.120 --> 1:47:17.040
<v Speaker 1>you listening, and me of course.

1:47:17.200 --> 1:47:19.880
<v Speaker 2>My name is rich Demiro. I will talk to you

1:47:19.920 --> 1:47:21.680
<v Speaker 2>real soon. We'll do it again next week, all right,