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Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson

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Speaker 1: on your twenty four to seven home of the Black

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Speaker 1: and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Man, welcome back to the Drive. I'm Dale LOLLI he

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Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson and it is mock draft time.

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Speaker 3: We're using the Pro Footballnetwork dot Com. All right, mockdrafter,

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Speaker 3: and our pick is up. And well we have two

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Speaker 3: trade offers, okay, one from the Lions. Yeah, twenty eight

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Speaker 3: twenty eight and sixty for twenty one and one fifty six.

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Speaker 2: Okay, understandable.

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Speaker 3: The Dolphins are on the phone. They want to give

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Speaker 3: us forty eight ninety eight, next year's two, next year's

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Speaker 3: three for twenty one, and next year a seventh round

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Speaker 3: pick next year.

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Speaker 2: Do you do something crazy and do something like that?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't because that would never happen in reality. Man,

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Speaker 3: They're not gonna do third next year. I understand, and

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Speaker 3: they're gonna stink, I think.

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Speaker 2: But we also have.

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Speaker 3: To do a mock draft today, I know.

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Speaker 2: But we did one yesterday and we're gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: But there's no way on God's green earth I see

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Speaker 3: them trading all the way back to pick forty eight.

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Speaker 2: I don't either. I just wonder what the build would

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Speaker 3: Like if it were something in the high thirties, I

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Speaker 3: would consider it, yeah, because I think they might consider

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Speaker 3: that if you're going to throw in a future too.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I would think my first round pick at

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Speaker 2: that point is like your first pick is Alexander Tyler

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Speaker 2: Williams or maybe probably worse. Yeah, I mean, so I

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Speaker 2: get it, but forty eight is way too far back

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Speaker 2: to go just to do one of them that way.

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Speaker 2: What it ends up, I don't disagree. And if that

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Speaker 2: were again, if it were picked thirty eight, yeah, would

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Speaker 2: consider it. Forty eight. They're not moving back to fourth.

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Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy.

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Speaker 3: So I'm going to reject that one. The Lions at

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Speaker 3: twenty eight and sixty, I could see that.

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Speaker 2: I think that neighborhood's fine, and you're giving up you know,

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Speaker 2: it's a one and a five one of the two.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that's realistic.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's bad. No, I think you can

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Speaker 2: maybe even squeeze more out of them.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna just go back and look at what's available here.

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Speaker 3: Derek Harmon, is there good Malachi Starks safety from Georgia

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Speaker 3: Tyler Booker, their guard from Alabama, Johad Campbell, linebacker from Alabama.

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Speaker 3: Josh Simmons offensive tackle from Ohio State, Walter Nolan offensive

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Speaker 3: tackle or defensive tackle from Ole Miss, Gray's Abel offensive

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Speaker 3: lineman from North Dakota State. Nick Scourton, edge rusher from

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Speaker 3: Texas A and m Mecca Buca wide receiver Ohio State.

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Speaker 3: James Pierce the edge rusher out of Tennessee, Jackson Dart

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Speaker 3: quarterback from Ole Miss, Omari and Hampton running back from

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Speaker 3: North Carolina. Tyler Williams is still there, Kenneth Grant is

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Speaker 3: still there.

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Speaker 2: You have to move back. Yeah, I think you take

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Speaker 2: it then, yeah, yeah, yeah, there's enough options that you

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Speaker 2: could be quite happy with where you go back. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: but late second, that's lovely, Yes, absolutely, all right. We

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Speaker 2: get three trade offers. Now, okay, this this goes to

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Speaker 2: what you were talking about here. The Giants are offering

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Speaker 2: thirty four and sixty five for twenty eight and one

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Speaker 2: to twenty three. I'm interested. I'd like to know what's

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Speaker 2: still available, what what happened at the tackle group.

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Speaker 3: The Texans are offering thirty one and eighty nine for

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Speaker 3: twenty eight and one five.

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Speaker 2: They must have traded back as well. That's guy, say

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Speaker 2: how did they end up there? But okay, I mean

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Speaker 2: we could we could have a trade fest today, so.

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Speaker 3: G Hud Campbell, Josh Simmons, Gray's Abel, Igbuka, Jackson Dart.

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Speaker 3: Who I assume that's what the Giants want to come

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Speaker 3: up and get. I would think yeah, Omarion Hampton, tylerk Williams,

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Speaker 3: jaln Milroe, Shavon Ravel, Donovan, Azerrechu, Kenneth, Grant, Nolan and

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Speaker 3: Harmon are gone. Nolan just went.

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Speaker 2: Out of a hard time trading away for Grant in

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Speaker 2: this instance.

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Speaker 3: But I do like Williams, well, the question you would

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Speaker 3: then have to ask yourself is Grant gonna go to Washington?

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Speaker 2: Outful? They took a dtackle earlierly last year? Is Grant

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Speaker 2: gonna go to Buffalo? Maybe? Maybe would Houston be coming

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Speaker 2: Abuka or one of those that you mentioned. What are

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Speaker 2: they offering us again? There? I mean I would swallow

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Speaker 2: it with Tyreek Kal the.

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Speaker 3: Giants are offering thirty five, William thirty four and sixty

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Speaker 3: five for twenty eight and one twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Good for fun enrolled, The Detexans.

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Speaker 3: Are offering thirty one and eighty nine for twenty eight

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Speaker 2: I'd be more comfortable going to thirty.

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Speaker 3: One, thirty four and sixty five verses thirty one and

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Speaker 3: eighty nine, but we're giving up to get thirty four

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Speaker 3: and sixty five. We're also giving up pick one twenty three.

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Speaker 2: Don't try either. If we end up with Williams, I

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Speaker 2: won't cry. I'm a big tiler Williams fan. Let's take

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Speaker 2: the Giants, because Giants offer gives us, well, thirty four

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Speaker 2: and sixty five five is gonna be real handy, real handy.

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Speaker 2: But we're giving up one twenty three, so we're moving

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Speaker 2: under that fourth round.

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Speaker 3: Let's do it, Okay, I'll accept it then.

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Speaker 2: And.

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Speaker 3: Well we're picking now, ye trade it back twice. We

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Speaker 3: do have other trade offers, but we're gonna jage.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 3: So the picks then went. They moved up for Jackson Dart,

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Speaker 3: which is what we guess.

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Speaker 2: Add up.

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Speaker 3: G Hud Campbell goes to Washington.

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Speaker 2: That's late for him.

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Speaker 3: Chavon Revel goes to Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so we avoided the Grant speed bump there.

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Speaker 3: Josh Simmons goes to the Texans.

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Speaker 2: I think he's gonna go high.

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Speaker 3: That's where they were trying to trade back up to

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Speaker 3: get Egbuca goes to the Patriots who traded.

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Speaker 2: Into thirty two. Good for them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Jalen Milroe to the Browns.

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Speaker 2: I was about to bring up but with all these

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Speaker 2: picks we have, I was thinking about lobbying for Milroe,

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Speaker 2: even over Grant. Okay, but I guess we're not gonna

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Speaker 2: have that. Com we're up now at thirty four. Grant

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Speaker 2: is still available. Yeah, you take him. I thought we're

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Speaker 2: gonna end up with Tyler Williams. So great.

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Speaker 3: We got all these extra picks. Now all right, we're

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Speaker 3: up now at sixty. I'm gonna reject all the offers here.

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Speaker 3: Whyatt Millum real quick? Would you consider shock here? I

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Speaker 3: would think about it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean we got extra stuff stuff right right right? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we got on quarterback I considerable.

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Speaker 3: We've got pick sixty sixty five, eighty three, but then

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Speaker 3: we don't have anything until one eighty five.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so I'd like to get a premium running back.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so we'll take a look at the running backs

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Speaker 3: here we can when Shawn Judkins.

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Speaker 2: Hard to say any of that.

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Speaker 3: DJ Giddens, Cam Scattabo Bay Shelle toot and Damian Martinez,

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Speaker 2: Harvey, Devin new Dudgeons is way better all those guys. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you think you just draft Judkins just he might make

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Speaker 2: it a sixty five. We're at sixty but I think

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Speaker 2: we will take You can take the bird in hand

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Speaker 2: and I think so too. But who are the best available?

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Speaker 3: Wyatt millm offensive guard or guard from my West Virginia,

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Speaker 3: J T two maloa ed rusher from Ohio State. Judkins

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Speaker 3: is three on that list. Maxwell Hairston cornerback out of Kentucky,

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Speaker 3: Prince Hugh Edge rusher out of missus Ole, Miss Tate

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Speaker 2: So there's no one crazy there. You take Judkins in.

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Speaker 3: Your thrill, Well, I mean, Jayden Higgins is there, Darius

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Speaker 2: We could consider them in five pick We might get

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Speaker 2: them in five picks. Just take Judkins, now, I agree, Okay, Judkins,

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Speaker 2: it is there was a clear line. I like those

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Speaker 2: other backs. But he's a starter. Yeah, okay, So now

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Speaker 2: I would consider Shock. I'd consider Haggins, I'd consider a

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Speaker 2: tackle that shouldn't be there. I'd consider Alexander, might even

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Speaker 2: consider Hairston. If he's still there. He's not really for me.

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Speaker 2: But if you get him at sixty five, yeah, well

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Speaker 2: he's gone. So okay. I didn't really want to take him.

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Speaker 2: He's too small for my liking. But he shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: so bad there. Actually he is still there.

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Speaker 3: Never mind, So it's Millum Tuamloa Hairston, Tate, Ratledge, T J. Sanders, Darius, Alexander,

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Speaker 3: Emery Jones, the offensive tackle from LSU, Alfred Collins defensive

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Speaker 2: I think I take Alexander over Collins with Grant in hand.

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Speaker 2: With Grant in hand, yeah, but boy, that's some beef. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: you really man. Send a message of the rest of

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Speaker 2: the division. Eric Aleki em and or I keep call

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Speaker 2: him Eric Higgins must have went.

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Speaker 3: Schuck is there.

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Speaker 2: It might be the time to do it. First pick

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Speaker 2: of round three, Shucker, Alexander. I think you go quarterback.

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Speaker 2: I think you do too. He might be the answer.

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Speaker 2: He might be the answer, might not, but he might

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Speaker 2: be at that price if he's a two, and I

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Speaker 2: know it's worth it. It's very worth it, right, Tyler

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Speaker 2: Shuck it is. We haven't taken Tyler Shuck in a

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Speaker 2: long time. Hum, So, I forget what podcast has listened to.

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Speaker 2: It might have been Mickshay's, and he was saying the

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Speaker 2: concern around the league that he's hearing was Shuck isn't

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Speaker 2: his age, But how am I going to get him

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Speaker 2: reps at his age? You know what I mean? Like

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Speaker 2: once you get him in the building. And the Steelers

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Speaker 2: have that issue too. If it's Rogers Rudolph Shuck, sure

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Speaker 2: he'd play like the whole preseason, but then he's probably

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Speaker 2: not active on game day all year, and he's out

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Speaker 2: of sight, out of mind, and you know, it's kind

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Speaker 2: of it's no different.

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Speaker 3: It's it's actually it is different from taking one of

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Speaker 3: the injured guys or Henry Hooker someone like that, right

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Speaker 3: right right, We've seen teams.

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Speaker 2: Take at least you could play in the preseason and

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Speaker 2: give him a ton of practice snaps, and.

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Speaker 3: But those injured guys, you're getting nothing out of that

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Speaker 3: first year, and so you're eating a year.

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Speaker 2: And certainly if Rudolph for Rogers had any injury, he's

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Speaker 2: active on game day. You know you'd love them to

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Speaker 2: be the two right away. Okay, but I like that.

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Speaker 2: I love the pick for that right but eighty three okay,

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Speaker 2: quarterback quarterback, running back, the line defensive lineman Jack beck

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Speaker 2: Oo Barrett Carter, the linebacker from Clemson, Chris Paul the

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Speaker 2: linebacker from will Miss Omar Norman Lott defensive tackle from

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Speaker 2: Tennessee Schamar Turner defensive tackle from Texas, A and M.

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Speaker 2: I'm a Turner fan, by the way.

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Speaker 3: Ashton Jilot the edge rusher out of Louisville. Cameron Williams,

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Speaker 3: offensive tackle from Texas. Gunner Helm tight end from Texas.

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Speaker 3: DJ Giddens running back from k State. Elijah Rojo the

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Speaker 3: tight end from Miami. Cam Scattabo running back from Arizona State.

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Speaker 3: Is there a position you want to hit here?

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Speaker 2: There's two names you said that I'm pretty excited about

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Speaker 2: is and this is a much different build in different

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Speaker 2: names too than we usually.

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Speaker 3: Well that's the thing when you start moving.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, betch for beck I always forgot which

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Speaker 3: I'm looking here, Josh Farmer still there.

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Speaker 2: Say Turner Farmer if you had Grant hm M. I

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Speaker 2: real close. Yeah, just looking here. What offensive wide receivers

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Speaker 2: up the most in the last month, who's fallen down?

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Speaker 2: The fall? And he was like top a list of

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Speaker 3: But him as an early second round pick when this

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Speaker 2: What you do with him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see it. I'd much rather back Isaac

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Speaker 2: From SAC I think Fraser is a really good player too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so there's some dudes there tackle you're looking at Cameron Williams,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Logan Brown from Kansas, Chase Lunt, Anthony Belton.

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Speaker 2: I would consider Grant, I'd consider either Guard. I would

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Speaker 3: Here's the thing with trading the picks.

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Speaker 2: What do we have left.

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Speaker 3: We don't get another pick for one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Picks, so it's basically your last pre contributor. Yeah, the

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Speaker 2: I mean, if we didn't take a shock, there would

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Speaker 3: Back to me, I look at wide receiver. I'm they're

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Speaker 3: fine at wide receiver. Beck would start maybe next year

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Speaker 2: What I like about him isn't the receiver need is

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Speaker 2: He's just so much different than the two big outside

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Speaker 3: I think I would go doing Fairchild here.

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Speaker 2: That's fine with me. I might prefer the LSU guard,

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Speaker 2: I just think that's a that's a starter down the

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Speaker 2: Like you didn't think last year when they you didn't

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Speaker 2: he ends up starting twelve games for you. I'm sure

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Speaker 2: we said, well Hill redshirt all year. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 3: That's an extra pick.

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Speaker 2: That's a throw. No, I'm cool with the guards, and

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Speaker 2: you get a year to work with him and get

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Speaker 2: him ready to go. Fraser for Fairchild. Do you like

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Speaker 2: you out of tackle. He played tackle with the Senior Bowl. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they had two draftable tackles at LSU. So he never

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, are going to be. They're both gonna start.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're both future starters.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll take Miles Fraser. So now we wait, Now

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Speaker 2: But I definitely feel more comfortable having one O lineman

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Speaker 3: We got Kenneth Grant in the first round. We're actually

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Speaker 2: They're all big for their yeah the position.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so now we are up again here at one

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Speaker 3: eighty five or eighty five. We got two picks left. Well,

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Speaker 3: what do you know, I don't see this happening, but okay,

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Speaker 3: we're done with that. Nick Nash the wide receiver from

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Speaker 2: I think that could happen, but it seems pretty frituitous.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Isaiah Bond, wide receiver from Texas.

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Speaker 2: Can consider him at this age, At this stage, I

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think he's good. In the off field

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, say the least.

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Speaker 3: I think that's why he slid down on these boards.

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Speaker 3: Cam Jackson, the defensive tackle out of Florida, talk about

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Speaker 3: beef with grant Jordan James running back from Oregon. Tim

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Speaker 3: I think that's more likely than Robinson.

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Speaker 2: Let's pretend Robinson is not there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think he makes this far. But Broughton, Oh,

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Speaker 3: that's logical, big enough to ride the ride. Maybe gets

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Speaker 2: And Jackson and Smith are logical. Two. Yeah, Broughton's more

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he got Upon Stout cornerback out of Western Kentucky,

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Speaker 2: So there's some, there's some. Dude, d Liman seemed like

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Speaker 3: I think you take Broughton here. Yeah, he's six or four,

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Speaker 3: he's got longer. He's like, yeah, yeah, the arms are

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Speaker 2: I mean I think he's a warmly plus Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, he is the pick.

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Speaker 2: We got one more pick left at two twenty nine,

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Speaker 2: And honestly, we can go a lot of different ways here. Receiver, corner,

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Speaker 2: They'll be dried up.

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Speaker 3: Wide receiver Kobe Hudson from UCF, Jalen Conyers, tight end

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Speaker 3: John Quavius Marks the running back from USC. Dauante Traders

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Speaker 3: Notre Dame. Jackson Hawes tight end out of Georgia Tech.

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Speaker 3: I think everyone's sleeping on a tight end. I mean,

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Speaker 3: I don't know that Hayward and par Ham or Jackson Hoylers.

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Speaker 3: You put him in Washington, out there in goal line

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Speaker 3: want to run the football. There you go.

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Speaker 2: That's like he's like having a seventh offensive lineman out there.

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Speaker 2: He's on your kickoff return team. Oh, he's just a

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Speaker 2: fine with that. Due last round, yeah, absolutely, no way

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Speaker 2: he should still be available. No, I mean he caught

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Speaker 2: everyone's be banging down his door. Yeah, yeah, do it.

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Speaker 2: You're getting nasty. This is a big this is a trenches.

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Speaker 2: Everyone's big for their position. Yeah, all right, so we

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Speaker 3: With Kenneth Grant at thirty four after trading back twice

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Speaker 2: Physicality is the seas here. This team got nasty. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm running a big nasty and not really hide our intentions.

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Speaker 2: And maybe you found a quarterback dislike that now I

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Speaker 2: which I don't know that he's going to go super high.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't shock me if he went fifteenth.

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Speaker 2: It wouldn't shock me if he's still on the board

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Speaker 2: when Thursday's over. Yeah, you know, teams might just take

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Speaker 2: I would rather Farmer in the third round than Swinton

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Speaker 3: I think you may see like sixteen pass rushers in

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Speaker 2: I do too.

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Speaker 3: I think it's also a league and right right right

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Speaker 2: Might be twelve or thirteen. This is just a number

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Speaker 2: I picked when we did that prediction thing. I just

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Speaker 2: is that you don't want a linebacker all of a sudden.

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Speaker 2: You get to thirty two pretty quick, and if you're

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Speaker 2: not in the market of any of those positions, let alone,

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Speaker 2: you know, cam Ward and Hunter and Carter, those guys

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was interesting it was.

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Speaker 2: That's kind of a fun build. Yeah, let's get to

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Speaker 3: Well, Wednesday nightcap after us. So get you got you

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Speaker 2: At least.

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Speaker 3: Radio and welcome back.

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Speaker 2: I am Dale LOLLI he is the Matt Williamson and

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Speaker 2: Matt nol Kuiper and Field. I did see that put

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Speaker 2: together at three round mock draft here Steelers making a

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Speaker 2: trade up.

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Speaker 3: Oh did they well in the later rounds?

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Speaker 2: Interesting? Okay, so how did they do it? Did they

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Speaker 2: go I pick you pick? I picked you?

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Speaker 3: Yes, that's that's what they did.

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Speaker 2: They didn't group think it. I don't think Mel's not

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Speaker 2: big on group What we.

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Speaker 3: Will do next Thursday? If you watch live on Steelers

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Speaker 3: dot com, you me and oh okay, yeah, Mike Persuda.

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Speaker 2: Will make the picks for the first round pretty successful.

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Speaker 2: Last'll rotate through it. Yeah, and you can get to

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Speaker 2: watch that live. Yeah cool.

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Speaker 3: So uh so Tennessee, this is Yates has cam Ward

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Speaker 3: going to the Titans.

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Speaker 2: He's got the odds. Mel's got the evens. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Mel has the Browns taking Travis Hunter.

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Speaker 2: Pretty chalky. And then I guess a little interesting. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if you saw it, but Shador Sanders is

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Speaker 2: going to do a private workout for the Giants.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, one last time the Giants. Yates has them taking

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Speaker 3: Abdull Carter, the addresser out of Penn State.

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Speaker 2: If you were the Patriots, I guess they're having Carter

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Speaker 2: in today and Sanders is doing this private workout for

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Speaker 2: the Giants. If you were the Patriots, would you tell

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Speaker 2: the Giants, how about I give you a fourth round

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Speaker 2: pick and we just swapped three and four? No, if

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Speaker 2: you're the Patriots or the Giant, who says no to that?

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Speaker 3: I think the Giants say no to it. I think

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Speaker 3: they want again. I just don't know that there aren't

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Speaker 3: the premium players. I think there's three. I think there's

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Speaker 3: three players who if we were redrafting last if you miss.

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Speaker 2: But he's not going to go in the top three

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Speaker 2: of course, right. Yeah? Uh.

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Speaker 3: Kuiper has the Patriots taking Will Campbell offensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: Out of LSU becoming kind of chockey too.

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Speaker 3: Yates says, Jacksonville taking miss Mason Graham defense Michigan. Kuiper

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Speaker 3: has the Raiders taking Ashton Genty running back at.

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Speaker 2: The Boise jockey at this point. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: Yates has the Jets taking arm On Membo offensive tackle

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Speaker 3: from Missouri.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I think that's going to come down to Membo

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Speaker 2: or Warren.

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Speaker 3: Kuiper has Carolina taking Jalen Walker linebacker slash edge Rusher

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Speaker 3: at Georgia League.

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Speaker 2: Seems to love them, but I have some questions.

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Speaker 3: At nine, Yates has the Saints taking Shador Sanders.

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Speaker 2: Very possible. Yeah, some people think it would be dark

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Speaker 2: to them. Maybe, yeah, whatever.

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Speaker 3: At ten, Kuiper has the Bears taking Tyler Warren tight

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Speaker 3: end Penn State.

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Speaker 2: Totally understand it. At eleven, Yeats has Kelvin Banks Junior,

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Speaker 2: the offensive tackle from Texas going to the forty nine Ers.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't love that for the Niners. You think you

499
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Speaker 2: could do a little better, but it to need.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Trent Williams is thirty seven this year.

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Speaker 2: Left guard as a hole. You could put him at

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Speaker 2: left guard and hopefully it kicks out the left tackle

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Speaker 2: in a year, you know.

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Speaker 3: At twelve, Kuiper has Matthew Golden wide receiver from Texas

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Speaker 3: to the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: If you were the Cowboys, would you take Ted or Golden?

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Speaker 2: I have for them. I see both sides. There are

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Speaker 2: different compliments to Lamb, but they are compliments.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'd probably lean towards Golden.

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Speaker 2: I like Golden a little better. Yeah, I understand both

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Speaker 2: sides with them.

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Speaker 3: At thirteen the Dolphins, Yates has him taking will.

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Speaker 2: Johnson understandable, especially if Ramsey especial, if you're gonna move around. Yeah. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: At fourteen, Kuiper has Colston Loveland going to the Colts.

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Speaker 2: I don't like. I don't see I have the tight

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Speaker 2: endfit for the Colts either. They have plenty of pass

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Speaker 2: catchers and they don't really throw the ball that well. No. No.

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Speaker 2: At fifteen, Yates has Mike Green, the addresser from Marshall,

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Speaker 2: going to Atlanta. Fine with that, yeah, I mean if

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Speaker 2: I were them off the field to side, I would

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Speaker 2: rather do Green than Stew. You need an instant help, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I don't want a developmental guy from them.

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Speaker 3: At sixteen, Kiper has John A Barron to the Cardinals.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's crazy.

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Speaker 3: They just gave their nickel a bunch of money.

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Speaker 2: Who did your money? The safety Buddha Budda Bakers.

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Speaker 3: The Baker's making money, Like, yeah, unless you don't think

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Speaker 3: Booda is going to hold up as you maybe you

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Speaker 3: want to play him back off the ball more, I

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Speaker 3: don't know. At seventeen and Johddy Barren could play outside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Seventeen the Bengals, Yates has them taking Walter Nolan. Defensive

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Speaker 3: TAXI will miss.

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Speaker 2: Everyone seems to be quiet on Nolan, which I think

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Speaker 2: the league's higher on him than people seem to think.

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Speaker 3: At eighteen, Kuiper has Grey's Abel going to the Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. I mean a lot of people put

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Speaker 2: Booker there, but they're much more of this new offense coordinators,

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Speaker 2: much more of a movement zone based, you know, athletic

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Speaker 2: and modern Booker. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: At nineteen, Yates says Nick Emuari, the safety from South

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Speaker 3: Carolina going to Tampa.

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Speaker 2: I can understand that I'd be shocked if they'd take

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Speaker 2: him over Campbell though. At twenty, Kuiper has Omari and

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Speaker 2: Hampton running back from North Carolina going to Denver. Wouldn't

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Speaker 2: break my heart at all. No, you know, it is

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Speaker 2: what it is. I don't love the Steeler builds when

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Speaker 2: Hampton it's the first pick, even though he's worth it.

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Speaker 3: At twenty one, Yates has the Steelers taking Derek Harmon.

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Speaker 2: Cool, sign me up, yep.

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Speaker 3: At twenty two, Kiper has a Mecca Agbuka going to

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Speaker 3: the Chargers. That's a little redundant to me. I take

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Speaker 3: Tech mcm for them. I'd take mcmill McMillan makes more

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Speaker 3: sense for them. Yeah, yeah, I would too. It sounds

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Speaker 3: like love one's already gone. I mean mconkie's your slot,

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Speaker 3: that's what he is.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I respect a Buka's game, but for them,

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Speaker 2: I would want.

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Speaker 3: The big bo kind of redundant with McConkie.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I went outside guy ball winner.

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Speaker 3: At twenty three, the Packers for Yates, he has them

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Speaker 3: taking Shamar Stewart.

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Speaker 2: That's their style. Yeah. I mean that's a lot like

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Speaker 2: Ben Ness or Gary or traits guy. Yeah, big trades guy.

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Speaker 3: At twenty four, Kiper has the Vikings taking Donovan Jackson,

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Speaker 3: the guard from Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Oh, I don't see that. They just I mean they

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Speaker 2: signed a center, they signed a guard. Their tackles are great.

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Speaker 2: There is a spot that friendles the other starting guard.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, just a guy, but the defense is keeps

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Speaker 2: him great everywhere, right right right? I mean four out

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Speaker 2: of five quality starters and an okay one isn't bad, yea.

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Speaker 2: Their secondary needs a lot of work.

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Speaker 3: At twenty five, Yates has the Texans taking Tech McMillan.

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Speaker 2: Sure, I mean receivers outside an eco right now? Or

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Speaker 2: I don't Dell plays ever again yeah, frankly, which is

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Speaker 2: terribly We got Christian Kirk. But yeah, that's true. The

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Speaker 2: Millon's different, that's true. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: At twenty six, Kuiper has the Rams taking Maxwell Harriston

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Speaker 3: the cornerback out of Kentucky.

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Speaker 2: See that a lot the need.

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Speaker 3: At twenty seven, Yates has the Ravens taking Malachi Starks

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Speaker 3: safety from Georgia.

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Speaker 2: I keep thinking that's to be Booker, but Starks would

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Speaker 2: add up to.

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Speaker 3: At twenty eight, Kuiper has Mike kel Williams as rusher

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Speaker 3: out of Georgia, going to the Lions.

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Speaker 2: Pretty late for him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, again he's undersized. We got a projected trade. At

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Speaker 3: twenty nine, the Browns get picked twenty nine and one

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Speaker 3: twenty eight. They give up picks thirty three and sixty seven,

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Speaker 3: similar to what we did.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's on a far trader.

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Speaker 3: They come up to get Jackson Dart. According to Yates.

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Speaker 2: Sanders went to the Saints, right, Okay? Is he off

597
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Speaker 2: the board? Sure? Okay, I say that's I would think

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Speaker 2: the Giants and Saints or Browns will be aggressive to

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Speaker 2: get a quarterback. At thirty, Kuiper has the Bills taking

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Speaker 2: Trey Amos cornerback out of Ole, miss that's up Yates.

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Speaker 2: At thirty one has the Chiefs taking Josh Connerley, the

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Speaker 2: offensive tackle from Oregon. I think he might need a year,

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Speaker 2: but that's fine for them. Yeah right, He's sounds super strong.

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Speaker 3: At thirty two, Kuiper has the Eagles taking gi Hud Campbell.

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Speaker 3: They don't take line back and take linebackers in the

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Speaker 3: first round, but they just paid Bond and I don't

607
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Speaker 3: think they would do that. They just paid Bond and

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Speaker 3: nave Dean. Yeah, yeah, May just wanted to get Campbell

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Speaker 3: in the first round. May he's gonna be in the

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Speaker 3: first round after trading back. The command then take Donovan Azreku.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, their edges a little suspect.

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Speaker 3: At thirty four, Kuiper has Tyler Schuck to the Giants.

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Speaker 2: It's not about a Constellation prize. End up with Carter

614
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Speaker 2: and Schuck. Okay, you might have filled both needs.

615
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Speaker 3: Thirty five Higgins Jayden Higgins, the wide receiver of Mohowa State,

616
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Speaker 3: goes to Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: They I hope they go receiver early for Ward.

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Speaker 3: Jacksonville then takes Luther Burden, the wide receiver from Missouri.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: At thirty seven, the Raiders take Josh Simmons, the offensive

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Speaker 3: tackle from Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: I think he's the best tackle in draft. Some of

623
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Speaker 2: these tackles I think are to go earlier.

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Speaker 3: At thirty eight, the Patriots take Kenneth Grant, defensive tackle.

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Speaker 2: From Michigan Ice. Good value obviously.

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Speaker 3: At thirty nine, the Bears take Treyvon Henderson, running back

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Speaker 3: from Ohio State.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so real quick, I mean there might have been

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Speaker 2: people last segment going no way Grant lasts that long

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Speaker 2: after two trade downs. Well he just just did this

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Speaker 2: one too. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: At forty, Kuiper has Azeri A. Thomas, the cornerback from

633
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Speaker 3: Florida State to the Saints.

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Speaker 2: They need him, but that's a little rich for him.

635
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Speaker 2: Forty one, Nick Scourton goes to the Chicago Bears the

636
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Speaker 2: dresser out of Texas A and M. I think they

637
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Speaker 2: could use help there.

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Speaker 3: Forty two the Jets take Elijah or Rojo tight end

639
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Speaker 3: out of Miami.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I thought it would be Membo or Warren and

641
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Speaker 2: they end up with Membo and a Rojo. Yeah. I

642
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Speaker 2: would take the LSU kid though first I see both sides.

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Speaker 2: I prefer Taylor too. Uh.

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00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 3: San Francisco then takes James Pierce junior, the addresser out

645
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Speaker 3: of Tennessee.

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Speaker 2: At forty three, they have a lot of d line needs.

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Speaker 3: The Cowboys at forty four take Chavon Revel, junior cornerback

648
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Speaker 3: out of East Carolina. And this could be what happens

649
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Speaker 3: with some of these injury Yeah. Yeah, he ended up

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Speaker 3: in the second round.

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Speaker 2: Oh right.

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Speaker 3: Forty five, Carson Sweassinger goes to the Colts to the

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Speaker 3: linebacker at of UCLA.

654
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: I can see that. Benjamin Morrison, another one of those

655
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 2: injury guys, goes to the Fountras of forty six, the

656
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 2: cornerback from Notre Dame. That would be fine for them.

657
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 2: Put him Oppositae Trell whenever he's ready. At forty seven,

658
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,440
Speaker 2: the Cardinals take Tyler Booker, the guard from Alabama. I

659
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 2: like that. That's that's good value to hit him that late.

660
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: At forty eight, Kuiper has Darius Alexander, defensive tackle from

661
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: Toledo going to the Dolphins.

662
00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:20,040
Speaker 2: They could use that too, yep.

663
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 3: At forty nine, the Bengals take Xavier Watts, safety at

664
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: a Notre Dame.

665
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: They'd go safety d tackle, Okay, I mean just stick

666
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: with defense.

667
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,200
Speaker 3: Yeah. At fifty the Seahawks take Jonas s Iavania Guard

668
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,040
Speaker 3: out of Arizona.

669
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: They take two interior alignment. Yeah, I wouldn't. I'm not

670
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: squipping quabbling with it. That's not a word, but whatever,

671
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 2: quibble quabble.

672
00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: Fifty one, Yates has Mason Taylor tight end out of

673
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:46,560
Speaker 3: LSU to the Broncos.

674
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 2: Yeah. He's a lot different than Ingram, And now I

675
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: think Ingram's only on one year deal.

676
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 3: The Seahawks at fifty two, this would be the pick

677
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:57,000
Speaker 3: that they got for DK Metcalf. They take, according to Kuiper,

678
00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 3: Jack Beck wide receiver from TCU good lineman.

679
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 2: And if that was, if.

680
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: That's the trade, like Dk Metcalf for Jack Beck, I

681
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 3: like Jack Beck.

682
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: But right, and I'll still take the thirty million. Yeah,

683
00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 2: on top of it. My only problem with that is

684
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 2: he's a slot smith and Jake mccupp and back, you know, like,

685
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 2: give me somebody that's outside the noumin. Everybody plays and Beck,

686
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 2: I guess could play outside of that, but that's not

687
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 2: what he does. Well, right, they all can. Yeah.

688
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 3: Tampa Bay takes Darian Porter at fifty three cornerback out

689
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: of Iowa State.

690
00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:31,719
Speaker 2: He's so interesting to me because He's only been a

691
00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: corner for one year and really needs time. But he's

692
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 2: old too. I mean he's been in college for six years.

693
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 3: Green Bay then takes another is year, Jalen Noel, wide

694
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 3: receiver out of Iowa State.

695
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 2: Well, he took an edge.

696
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: According to Kuiper, they got receivers.

697
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,760
Speaker 2: Oh, they do, they do. But I don't think Watson's

698
00:34:49,760 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: gonna play all year.

699
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: I don't think he does either. At fifty five, the Chargers,

700
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 3: according to h take Quinn Shawn Judkins, running back out

701
00:34:58,040 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 3: of Ohio State. Him an nausey Naugy's a one year deal,

702
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: right right, Okay. At fifty six, Kuiper has Saveon Williams

703
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:09,880
Speaker 3: to the Buffalo Bills.

704
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,919
Speaker 2: I think he's much more of a second third round

705
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: pick than he is. Oh no, that's t c U

706
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 2: staving way. Yeah, I get the Washington State receiver and

707
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 2: Sane Williams mixed up, but no, I would not take

708
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:22,759
Speaker 2: Williams that high.

709
00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:25,760
Speaker 3: At fifty seven, the Carolina Panthers, according to the Yates,

710
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 3: take Ozzie Trapeo, offensive tackle from Boston College.

711
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not a huge need.

712
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: At fifty eight, Kuiper has Anthony Belton, the offensive lineman

713
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 3: from NC State going to the Texans.

714
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 2: Pretty high, but I understand it. Yeah, he's a good prospect.

715
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,840
Speaker 3: Fifty nine, the Ravens take j. T. Tuamloa edge rusher

716
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 3: from Ohio State.

717
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: He's their type of guy, a van noy, tough guy,

718
00:35:51,760 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: set the edge, you know. At sixty Kuiper has Marcus

719
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: and Bow the guard from Purdue to the Detroit Lions.

720
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 2: They needed that would be a good pick for them

721
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 2: losing Zeitler.

722
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: It's sixty one. Yates has Jacob Parrish cornerback from k

723
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: State going to the Commanders. Are they just going to

724
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 3: run a.

725
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 2: Whole group of unders? They do have a Lottimore, but

726
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 2: that that position is kind of fully tiny. Yeah. At

727
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 2: sixty two, the bills for Kuiper is olu O, the

728
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 2: oladejo ed rusher at UC Yeah. Sixty three, Yates has

729
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: Landon Jackson, the edge rusher from Arkansas.

730
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 3: Going to the Chiefs.

731
00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:39,800
Speaker 2: Okay.

732
00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 3: Sixty four, Kuiper has Kevin Winston Junior, the safety from

733
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 3: Penn State to the Eagles. So no big guys for

734
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 3: the Eagles thus far right.

735
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 2: I think Winston goes maybe even higher than that.

736
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: Would the Eagles take a linebacker in a safety in

737
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: the dreads. Not Eagles like him, but they did take

738
00:36:57,719 --> 00:36:59,319
Speaker 3: cornerbacks first two rounds last year.

739
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, okay, this is a three rounder. Yeah. Oh wow.

740
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: Tate Ratledge to the Giants at sixty five. The guard

741
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 3: from Georgia, Harold Fannon Junior, the tight end from Bowling

742
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,879
Speaker 3: Green to the Chiefs at sixty six.

743
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:15,719
Speaker 2: He's not very Kelsey like.

744
00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 3: But Caleb Johnson goes to the Commanders at pick sixty seven.

745
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 3: That was a pick that that was a pick they

746
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,239
Speaker 3: picked up from Cleveland. And then he has they have

747
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:27,720
Speaker 3: a projected trade.

748
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 2: Pick number. Steelers get pick number sixty eight for pick

749
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: number eighty three. This is with the Raiders and.

750
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 3: A twenty twenty six third round draft pick.

751
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 2: Okay, so you move up heavy in the third round

752
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 2: for a future third Yeah, and they take Jaln Milroe

753
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:53,080
Speaker 2: quarterback Miami. To me, me, that's the perfect start to

754
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:56,200
Speaker 2: the draft. If I can get one of those premier

755
00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: d tackles in Milrow and it cost me a future

756
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,319
Speaker 2: third and those were my first two picks. I'm in.

757
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 2: I'm so in. Yeah, that makes more sense in taking

758
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: him in the first round or at the top of

759
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 2: the second round, and you're not sure to pick this year, right,

760
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 2: you're gonna get a third comp pick. Sign me up

761
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: for that. So essentially you traded Dan Moore in your

762
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,640
Speaker 2: third round draft pick to go get me your future

763
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: starter right now. Ideally, if you could do those exact

764
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,879
Speaker 2: same thing, but you would have got harm in five

765
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 2: picks later in a trade down and still had something

766
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 2: else floating out there another third or whatever. Yeah. Rt,

767
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 2: but if this is the way it went, I would

768
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 2: take it. Yeah. To me, that's a perfect start. Now.

769
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm not going to roll through all these picks after that,

770
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: but just some of the more interesting one.

771
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:49,840
Speaker 3: Kyle Williams we talked about, goes sixteen sixty to the Patriots.

772
00:38:49,840 --> 00:38:53,360
Speaker 3: The wide receiver at of Washington State, Ariante Urserie to

773
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,440
Speaker 3: the Bears at seventy two. The offensive tackle from Minnesota.

774
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: Sleeper to go way earlier, TYLERK.

775
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 3: Williams goes all the way down at seventy for the

776
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,000
Speaker 3: defensive tackle out of Ohio State.

777
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 2: You can see noses falling Grant Williams, et cetera. Alfred Collins. Yeah,

778
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: he goes right.

779
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 3: After him to the forty nine Ers at seventy five.

780
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: I don't think that's insane. With the all the noses

781
00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 2: that are in this class that you might get value there. Boy,

782
00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:16,919
Speaker 2: I'll take Williams the third round.

783
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 3: Let's see here, the Bengals take Jack Sawyer at eighty one,

784
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 3: the edge rusher out of Ohio State.

785
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,320
Speaker 2: He's their style. Yeah, like Hubbard.

786
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 3: Josh Farmer goes at eighty two, and then the defensive

787
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,320
Speaker 3: tackle in the third rounds Shamar Turner goes with the

788
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 3: pick at eighty three. That would have been the Steelers

789
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 3: pick the defensive liment of Texas.

790
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: A and M about where we considered him.

791
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, Eleka Yemanor at eighty five to the Broncos, the

792
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,160
Speaker 3: wide receiver out of Stanford.

793
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 2: Nice, it'd be a good fit for him.

794
00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:48,800
Speaker 3: Quincy Riley, the cornerback out of Louisville to the Jaguars

795
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,439
Speaker 3: at eighty eight.

796
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: Now he's a guy that could go a little higher

797
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: than you think. Yeah, only he's be sitting there. In

798
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,880
Speaker 2: the fifth round, Ty Robinson, defensive tackle at in Nebraska,

799
00:39:56,960 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 2: goes at eighty nine to the Texans. That's about right, yeah.

800
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: Will Howard goes at ninety to the Rams.

801
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: Okay developmental guy for them. That would make some sense.

802
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 3: The Ravens take Demetrius Knight, Junior, the linebacker out of

803
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:15,480
Speaker 3: South Carolina. Noel Williams goes to the Seahawks at ninety two,

804
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:16,440
Speaker 3: the cornerback out.

805
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 2: Of cal Well. These guys that we've had to interest in. Yeah.

806
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 3: The Browns took Ashton Gillette at ninety four, the edge

807
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:24,600
Speaker 3: rusher out of Louisville.

808
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 2: And had a couple people that love him. I think

809
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: he's good. Yeah, some people have really bragged about him.

810
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: Chiefs took Dylan Fairchild, the guard out of Georgia at

811
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: ninety five. Yeah, they need a guard. Yeah. CJ.

812
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 3: West goes to the Eagles at ninety six, the defensive

813
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 3: tackle out of Indiana.

814
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be happy with that. Charles Grant to the

815
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 2: offensive tackle from Miami or from William and Mary goes

816
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,040
Speaker 2: to Miami at ninety eight. They did take Patrick Paul

817
00:40:47,120 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 2: last year, but yeah, how much I'd count on that.

818
00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:52,520
Speaker 3: Upton Stout all the way up at one hundred, Wow

819
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 3: for the San Francisco forty nine ers.

820
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 2: Did Mel make that pick? Yes, so he talks about Stout,

821
00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 2: loves him. Yeah. Yeah.

822
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 3: And final pick of this draft to the Lions is

823
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:05,800
Speaker 3: Barrett Carter, linebacker, out of Clemson the Lions.

824
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,440
Speaker 2: He was kind of he's been on the radar for

825
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 2: a while. Good athlete, but yeah.

826
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 3: Some guys making some movements there. Rising up the boards.

827
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:17,120
Speaker 2: Harmon and Milroe would be a nice start. People don't

828
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 2: want to hear it, but I think that's a really

829
00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: good way to go. Yeah, a lot of mill Road detractors,

830
00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: and I think if you study him, you'll like him

831
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 2: more and more.

832
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:30,040
Speaker 3: I think, to me again, the the argument, Well, you know,

833
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,360
Speaker 3: I see mock drafts them taking him in the first round. No,

834
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 3: you don't do that right, right, right? And I need

835
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 3: trading up to the Yeah, trading up into the early

836
00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 3: second round to get him and not not having a

837
00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: defensive tackle at all, or trading back and taking him first. No, Yeah,

838
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 3: Like I get okay, if you move a future pick

839
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 3: from next year, because you got a bunch a bunch

840
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:54,240
Speaker 3: to go, do that, I get it completely.

841
00:41:55,320 --> 00:41:57,960
Speaker 2: Just have him for one more year than then maybe

842
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 2: you aren't in the quarterback marketing from that, right, How

843
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:01,400
Speaker 2: nice would that be?

844
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, now you get all these picks that you acquired,

845
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 3: right right, I can really do something and do whatever

846
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 3: you want, right, Yeah, let's get through a break. He

847
00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,279
Speaker 3: is the Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to

848
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,239
Speaker 3: the Drive here on the Steelers Nation Radio on the

849
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: Steelers Audio Network, and I'll be back to finish up

850
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 3: the show right after this.

851
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 2: At least.

852
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

853
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

854
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation.

855
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 2: Radio and welcome back. I'm Dale Lolly. He is the

856
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and Matt Tyrone Smith. He's going to sign

857
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 2: a one day contract with the Cowboys and then retire

858
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: after fourteen years. Okay, good, Yeah, I mean I think

859
00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 2: that's a good way to go out. Last year with

860
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:55,439
Speaker 2: the Jets was a little rough. Yeah, kind of seeing

861
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 2: that so many times in sports where someone's a lifetime

862
00:42:58,320 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: and then they go one year and like, yeah, this

863
00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,400
Speaker 2: was probably a mistake, and much of what happens with

864
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 2: the Jets last year was forgettable. You know that that

865
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 2: experiment obviously didn't work. I think he's a hall of famer. Yeah,

866
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: he'll be a Hall of Fame. I think he will be. Yeah,

867
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 2: he's had back issues and I'm sure his body is

868
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 2: saying I'm done. I just want to look at his.

869
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:22,560
Speaker 3: Like it seems like the back issues for him have

870
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 3: been around forever forever. Yeah, you know, one hundred and

871
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 3: seventy one career games in fourteen years.

872
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: M Okay, like the whole stuff.

873
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 3: Hasn't played a full season since twenty fifteen, and I

874
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 3: wonder if that hurts, Like.

875
00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 2: His first four adortability is going to be a knock on.

876
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,000
Speaker 3: His first five seasons he played all but one game,

877
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 3: really okay, and then ever since then the most games

878
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 3: he's played in the season is thirteen.

879
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:57,520
Speaker 2: Okay. That's interesting. Yeah, like it's it's going to be

880
00:43:57,600 --> 00:43:58,920
Speaker 2: maybe he doesn't go first ballot.

881
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 3: There was a twenty two one he played two games,

882
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 3: twenty twenty two he played four games, like a really

883
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: good player. Yeah, and but just a two time first

884
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 3: team All Pro because of all the injuries.

885
00:44:11,719 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Trent Williams probably beat him out quite a bit.

886
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 2: And you know some of those dudes, like I would

887
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:20,120
Speaker 2: put you know, Trent Williams, Lane Johnson ahead of him,

888
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 2: you know, in the tackle pecking order for Hall of Fames.

889
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 2: Guys that will retire soon. But I bet he goes

890
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 2: in the next ten years.

891
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 3: It's tough though, it's tough to tackle.

892
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 2: Because there's nobility, big, huge, and I get when Tony

893
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 2: Boselli goes in, yeah he kind of throwing some of

894
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 2: that out. But BISSELLI his entire career was like, Okay,

895
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,800
Speaker 2: he's the guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, this is a little different.

896
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 3: Where he had four years where he was that and

897
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 3: then the rest of the career has just kind of

898
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 3: been Okay, he's good, but he missed too many games.

899
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's going to be the clear number one

900
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: knock on him. He's an interesting player though. I mean, like,

901
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,839
Speaker 2: not many tackles could be an underwear model, and he

902
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: kind of is like he has of any fat He's

903
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 2: got the wide shoulders, the narrow waist, you know, he's

904
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 2: got the v I mean, he's an odd process.

905
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 3: We have a different idea of underwear models than what

906
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: I do, just a different vision of what they look like. Right,

907
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 3: mine don't have wide shoulders and.

908
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 2: Twenty pounds. They are not no, no, I think whenever

909
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 2: he came out of USC, remember Ryan Khalil is a

910
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: super high pick. Smith had to play the right side

911
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 2: because Khalil was USC's left tackle, you know, so he

912
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: he was one of these conversions that went right to

913
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 2: left right away and didn't miss a beat. You know

914
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 2: all those guys that converted last year. I think he's

915
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,799
Speaker 2: a tremendous player, but he has been held together.

916
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 3: UC taper for a long time.

917
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: I wonder how many Wednesday practices he's missed a million?

918
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I mean, he spent the better part of

919
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,280
Speaker 3: the of his career not playing the full sixteen.

920
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, right right. Armstead kind of has some of

921
00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 2: those things too. Yeah.

922
00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,280
Speaker 3: I mean really, in the last the last three seasons

923
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 3: of his career he played twenty seven games.

924
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,440
Speaker 2: Really, how old is he?

925
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:17,799
Speaker 3: Uh, thirty, he'll be thirty five.

926
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:19,200
Speaker 2: Man, it's probably time.

927
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's probably time.

928
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 2: But great career, great career.

929
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 3: Really good player. It'll be interesting.

930
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,399
Speaker 2: That'll be a that'll be a tough discussion.

931
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,040
Speaker 3: In that in that Hall of Fame.

932
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 2: It won't be a no brainer. No, there's no question

933
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: Trent Williams going in, no problem. Yeah, blah blah, Like

934
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 2: you have, you have less of an argument with Zach Martin.

935
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 2: Martin's easier. Yeah, Martin's reliable.

936
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 3: He was more reliable, more reliable, and they were with

937
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,040
Speaker 3: great players in a long time, for a long time. Well,

938
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 3: the Cowboys are the best line in the league because

939
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,640
Speaker 3: they basically they had those two.

940
00:46:46,440 --> 00:46:49,319
Speaker 2: Guys, and Frederickson was a really good player for a

941
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 2: long time too, and he had to retire early.

942
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 3: I don't think all three of them go to the

943
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:53,359
Speaker 3: Hall of Fame.

944
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: I don't think Frederickson goes. No Fredericks or Frederickson Frederickson,

945
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:00,719
Speaker 2: I don't think he'll go. His career's There are many

946
00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: centers in the Hall of Fame Fame, they really are.

947
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,440
Speaker 2: There's like five, like Nick Mangole, is it in The

948
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: Steelers have like forty percent of the Hall of Fame center, right,

949
00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 2: It's pretty crazy. Yeah, but definitely I'm sure if you

950
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 2: compare Martin and Smith, I'm sure Martin has more Pro

951
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: Bowls All Pros. You just play game, you know, if

952
00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:18,840
Speaker 2: you only play twelve games, you're not going to be

953
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 2: an All Pro. It's tough. I think you said the

954
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: only one is two of them.

955
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, two time first team All Pro. He was

956
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 3: three times second team All Pro.

957
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: But it's tough to I mean, the resume is not

958
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,239
Speaker 2: as good as the film. Yeah, because of miss time.

959
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's festibility is availability.

960
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, great career. Yeah, I wonder if we get into

961
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: September and someone loses a left tackle. Chiefs, Hey, you

962
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 2: want to try to make a run for a ring? Maybe, Yeah,

963
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 2: I could probably get off the couch. Maybe that's cooys.

964
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 2: Maybe you can't get off the couch. Maybe it's the

965
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 2: back issues that that bad. Yeah, it's always retiring as

966
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: a cowboy, though he'll probably be like a ring of

967
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,399
Speaker 2: honor go I'm sure. Yeah, yeah, actually a long time

968
00:47:59,440 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 2: great cowboy. Yeah, it's a great lineman.

969
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 3: But Matt, that's going to do it for our show today,

970
00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 3: all right. So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin

971
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Speaker 3: Miller here on site running the Justin Miller hotline and

972
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 3: the soundboard, and for Tyler Wittmeyer making sure the video

973
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Speaker 3: gets out there on the YouTube, I am Dale, Lolly.

974
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