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Speaker 1: NFL Free Agency Frenzy edition Little corporate synergy. That's how

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Speaker 1: Dan hands this yere, Greg Rosenthal, Mark Sessler, Greggy, this

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Speaker 1: is your time of year. This is what I love

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Speaker 1: about Greg. Follow Greg's Twitter right now and he's got

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Speaker 1: this for well over a decade now, Greg, congratulations, this

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Speaker 1: than everyone saying days hours, you know, that wouldn't shock

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Speaker 1: me because already people with this self interest have been

430
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Speaker 1: wrong about that in the past. Right. But I will

431
00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 1: say I believe, based on everything we know now, that

432
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:17,600
Speaker 1: this trade gets done in the next week. I just

433
00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,240
Speaker 1: think there's enough momentum now and that hurdle of the

434
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 1: criminal case being cleared. I tend to agree with you

435
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:25,399
Speaker 1: because there's more than one team interested by Watson's side

436
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 1: that I think we'll see, though I don't. I don't

437
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: know what stands in the way at this point because teams,

438
00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:32,800
Speaker 1: there's a there's a clock that these teams are on

439
00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: with the draft coming up free agencies right now that

440
00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:37,600
Speaker 1: they're gonna want to figure it out. If they want him,

441
00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 1: this is the time to get him and then figure

442
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Speaker 1: out your franchise plan. For the fact that Watson is

443
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 1: meeting with the Panthers and Saints is a strong indication

444
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,680
Speaker 1: that the Panthers and the Saints are the favorites to

445
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: get him. Because he he has a no trade clause,

446
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:57,879
Speaker 1: he has some control in this matter. The fact that

447
00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 1: he's taking those meetings first and we'll see. If he

448
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,600
Speaker 1: even has both meetings necessarily would indicate that those two

449
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,560
Speaker 1: teams are pretty far along in the process in terms

450
00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 1: of what the compensation would be. And I'd love to

451
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 1: know the order of those meetings because you know, with

452
00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,320
Speaker 1: the way free agency works, depending on where you go first,

453
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 1: that might be key. I I would imagine, like there

454
00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,960
Speaker 1: are whispers out there that if Cleveland was ever in

455
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,680
Speaker 1: the mix, that he doesn't want to play in a

456
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,879
Speaker 1: cold city, he doesn't want to play in Cleveland probably

457
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 1: to begin with, and that would change things. I The

458
00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 1: last thing on this is just that so many people

459
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: have shown their ass I think in terms of how

460
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,040
Speaker 1: it was covered that even someone like me, who I

461
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,400
Speaker 1: feel like I'm not a naive person and I can

462
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,000
Speaker 1: be cynical about the coverage, has kind of been floored

463
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:46,719
Speaker 1: that the lessons in theory that anyone in all these

464
00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: people were covering the league back in the Greg Hardy

465
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 1: Ray Rice era, the mistakes that people made in covering

466
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,000
Speaker 1: those cases have been made like twofold in this case,

467
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 1: uh when when Schefter tweeted out that he knew that

468
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: the the truth would come out, uh, and they were

469
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,680
Speaker 1: waiting for this, like I couldn't believe it, and you

470
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 1: do here in a different way on Twitter, uh, and

471
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 1: and in conversation certainly too. That I think the the

472
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Speaker 1: attitude towards women is like, yeah, they're gonna say the

473
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,000
Speaker 1: right things publicly, but it's like a lot of people

474
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Speaker 1: don't give a about women, like they hate women like

475
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Speaker 1: and it's sort of comes out in the coverage of

476
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Speaker 1: this of how un seriously people take it or how

477
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 1: un serious they take uh doing their job in terms

478
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Speaker 1: of reading the like the actual hate appointments like I don't.

479
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they don't hate their sister, they don't

480
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: hate their their wives, they don't hate the women in

481
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,959
Speaker 1: their lives, but as a larger group, they don't. They

482
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:53,160
Speaker 1: don't talk about certainly like showing like insiders like anyone

483
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:56,200
Speaker 1: taking it sort of seriously or even like going back

484
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Speaker 1: and just reading the cases because I because I think

485
00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: if they would, if they had any sort of empathy

486
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: or humanity, it's like they would be covering the differently.

487
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:09,680
Speaker 1: Schefter's gotta oh that was bad. That that has to

488
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: be a teaching moment. That needs to be something that

489
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: if you're you know, learning how to be a reporter,

490
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 1: you have aspirations to be an insider, how not to

491
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: get played and turn yourself into a laughing stock on

492
00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 1: social media? Um, and followed up with an apology tweet

493
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,760
Speaker 1: and it's just like, whoa buddy, how did we get here?

494
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,560
Speaker 1: And we'll move on. But the same mistakes were happening

495
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: on Monday when multiple insiders are tweeting out the exact

496
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 1: same tweet that are exactly written by an agent. Now

497
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:42,720
Speaker 1: it didn't it wasn't uh content that was explosive like

498
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 1: a Deshaun Watson where you should be checking that. But

499
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:48,600
Speaker 1: these mistakes like keep happening, Like if you are working

500
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: for the agents, you're ultimately not a trustworthy news What

501
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: did I say Mark at the top of this episode

502
00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 1: that would be a hundred ninety seven minutes long. This

503
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: guy gets it, Greg ros at the let's take a break,

504
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. All right, We're back, uh, And

505
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: now we got Justin Graver behind the glass. What's up, buddy? Well,

506
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:18,520
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have to if Erica Tampose was with us

507
00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,399
Speaker 1: for the biggest newsweek of the off season. But she

508
00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,159
Speaker 1: had made her decisions and we will be fine. We

509
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,800
Speaker 1: still got a loaded crew behind the glass. We got

510
00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:33,879
Speaker 1: Grave Digger, we got Zack Sally, we got a big Randy,

511
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,840
Speaker 1: we got stapled in behind the glass. We'll be okay,

512
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 1: but this will not be forgotten. Remember that she doesn't

513
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: come back with a ring, does she come back at all?

514
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: That's now, let's have a let's have a discussion, maybe

515
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:51,640
Speaker 1: off Mike about that. Those are flash point Erica tampose.

516
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: Those are the steaks? Justin, justin, how are you, by

517
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: the way, by are you ready for this week? This

518
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:04,919
Speaker 1: is this really is a step up behind the glass

519
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: in terms of this company. I think I'm ready. I

520
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 1: don't know. You'll have to tell me how I do

521
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 1: after one day, and we'll see if we will. I mean,

522
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: we're surprised you're even here after that, Ben Jones resigning,

523
00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:16,320
Speaker 1: I just thought you'd be running through the streets naked.

524
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: I was throwing a party, but I had to cancel

525
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 1: it quick for this show tonight. Nice deal. You know

526
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: you got him for a lot cheaper than Ryan Jensen said, right,

527
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:29,399
Speaker 1: nice deal. But thinking of parties, any housewarming party at

528
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: your new uh tell abode, I'm playing this against my will,

529
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: just so plick some solo parties. One guest, Wait hold on,

530
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,200
Speaker 1: so you can't help him so because he's so proud.

531
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Speaker 1: Ye wut you do consistently provide new information on a

532
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 1: topic that was playing you want down? Yes, well things

533
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: are a little calmer now. Is this like the Pete

534
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: Davidson Kim Kardashian situation of NFL media? Ultimately, that's that's

535
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 1: what I want everyone to think about. Is that what

536
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: we have going on behind the glass? Graver sending out

537
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: text like I'm in bed with your wife exactly alright,

538
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: So Gravers behind the glass, we feel good about it,

539
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: not feeling good about Ricky and her decision making, but

540
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,480
Speaker 1: we forge forward. Let's get to the rest of the

541
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 1: news that we um have seen. God damn Mark, you

542
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: got a new number one wide receiver Amari Cooper heads

543
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 1: to the Cleveland Browns, acquired from the Cowboys in exchange

544
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: for a round pick. Uh. They also swapped six round

545
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: picks Cleveland and Dallas. It it is a largely there

546
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:49,280
Speaker 1: could be some more stuff behind the scenes, because the

547
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't seem to be overly happy with Cooper in general.

548
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: But when you look at where cow the Cowboys were

549
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 1: heading into the league year, they are having some cap

550
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 1: issues so you take a guy that's one of the

551
00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 1: highest paid wide receivers in the league and you send

552
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:05,680
Speaker 1: him elsewhere and market. It does fill an area of need,

553
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 1: uh for the Browns. Jarvis Landry was subsequently granted his release.

554
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham obviously left, so there was a glaring need

555
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,360
Speaker 1: for a number one. How do you feel about this trade?

556
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 1: I think they had the worst wide receiver room in

557
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: the league. Um, you know, if you assumed that La

558
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: Landry was out. I mean there's Donovan People's Jones who

559
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: I like him as a piece next to a number one.

560
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: I like the deal because you know when I when

561
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: it was announced and I was thinking, well, what are

562
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 1: they gonna What are the Browns give up for this?

563
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 1: On top of taking on a big salary, they gave

564
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 1: up a fifth and flipped to sixth round picks. I

565
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 1: mean it is another example of Andrew Barry in general,

566
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,480
Speaker 1: if you're willing to say we're gonna have to spend

567
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,160
Speaker 1: money for good players, essentially never getting fleeced in these deals.

568
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Speaker 1: And I think from that angle, like they addressed a need.

569
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: There's no question to Mary Cooper is a clear number one. UM.

570
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Speaker 1: I like it. I think there is a question. I

571
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: don't think there is. I don't think I think for Cleveland. Well,

572
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: I think for Cleveland, he it's number one status there,

573
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: so let me so many guys out there. They can

574
00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: address it in the draft as well, and you have

575
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 1: remade your wide receiver room entirely. I think that gives

576
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 1: them a flexibility to also go uh defensive tackle, which

577
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 1: is probably their second major void on that roster right now.

578
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: I liked the deal for Cleveland. I not surprised that

579
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: that they would be the team to do it. I

580
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: am surprised that thirty other teams passed. They I'm not

581
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: It's not a big surprise that they didn't have to

582
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: give up much because the expectation was all thirty one

583
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: teams were gonna pass and say we don't want that contract.

584
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: That That was curious to me because the contract to

585
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: me isn't bad. He's do twenty million dollars in each

586
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: of the next three years. But they didn't have to

587
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 1: give up any upfront money, no guarantees, so they can

588
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 1: cut him at any time with no pain whatsoever. It's

589
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,680
Speaker 1: basically a one year, twenty million dollar contract. And so

590
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 1: every team in the NFL was saying we wouldn't give

591
00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper a one year, twenty million dollar contract. Now,

592
00:31:57,800 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: that says something about Amari Cooper. I don't think the

593
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 1: lead sees him as a true number one. He's sort

594
00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: of in between, and that that's fine. He's by far

595
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,000
Speaker 1: the best Browns receiver, and he's a top twenty five

596
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: receiver at the very least. He's just not like the

597
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 1: guy who's gonna put up four hundred yards and catch

598
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 1: nine passes. He's not that guy. He's never done it before.

599
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: There's not a great reason to think he'll do it now.

600
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 1: I I am flummixed in a league where Christian Kirk's

601
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:25,640
Speaker 1: gonna get eighteen million dollars a year bass salary, and

602
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:29,959
Speaker 1: these receivers are happened after I get it. You kind

603
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: of could see it coming that Mike Williams gets twenty

604
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: million dollars year, that no one wanted a Marie Cooper

605
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: and and so I think it made a lot of

606
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,360
Speaker 1: sense for the Browns. Well, someone did the Browns. So

607
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: maybe most teams were thinking, we'll let him go to market.

608
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:43,800
Speaker 1: We're not. We don't want to write. But they knew

609
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: they saw the contract. They could have given up I'm

610
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 1: sure they saw it weeks ago. They were putting this

611
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: out there. We're gonna cut him. That was the big

612
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: for sale sign that like, please someone give us an offer.

613
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: No one, no one top that. I think I think

614
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 1: it makes sense. Yeah, I think it's a good move

615
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: that cap space basically. Yeah, I think it's a good

616
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: move by Cleveland. I would say my only concern would

617
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:08,480
Speaker 1: be some reports about him having issues. He wants the

618
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 1: ball more, and how does that work when you go

619
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:13,880
Speaker 1: to Cleveland. When the last guy, O'Dell talked his way

620
00:33:13,880 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: out of town behind the scenes with his dad's help,

621
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 1: and then Jarvis Landry didn't talk the last half of

622
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: the season, there was a lot of unhappiness with quarterback play,

623
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,440
Speaker 1: and right now as things stands, the quarterbacks still there. Yeah.

624
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 1: I think that the flip side of this is that

625
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 1: this isn't me dancing around the room with a ton

626
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: of optimism. I think that it's super clear Cleveland is

627
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: unhappy with their quarterback situation right now. They are fishing

628
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: around for answers on that front. And they had to

629
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,000
Speaker 1: clear out that almost that entire wide receiver room because

630
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: the tweets and the overall overt support for Odell Beckham

631
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 1: after he left, and for from the team to Jarvis

632
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 1: Landry today in a way is counter to how they

633
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: feel about Baker Mayfield. Everyone's silent on the Baker Mayfield

634
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: front and Robinson or Cooper said, I cannot wait to

635
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: play with Baker blah blah blah, We'll see. It just

636
00:34:01,480 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: seems to me like a situation that could turn ugly

637
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,720
Speaker 1: again next season. The great thing is he's only twenty.

638
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:08,839
Speaker 1: He's turning twenty eight this year. How is it, Marie

639
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: Cooper years Jarvis Landry only twenty nine. I feel like

640
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 1: seven years old now that I think about it more,

641
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: I think it says more just about this incoming crop

642
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Speaker 1: of rookies that teams just feel like they can find

643
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Speaker 1: receivers in the draft. And I'm sure the Browns feel

644
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 1: that way too. They might draft one as well. They

645
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Speaker 1: need more than just one, and and maybe that's I

646
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 1: think that was a huge thing to do with it.

647
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Speaker 1: I do. I don't like. I hear you. If you're

648
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Speaker 1: not you don't think it's a number one. But in

649
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: this market, if you have no one at wide receiver,

650
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: and the Browns were desperate, Cooper fits number one for

651
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Speaker 1: next season. He's never topped twelve yards, but he's topped

652
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: He's between a thousand and twelve hundred five different times.

653
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Speaker 1: Have we heard from him? By the way, is he

654
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Speaker 1: happy to be traded to Cleveland? I wonder he did

655
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Speaker 1: just say I saw close that he that that sounded

656
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: very supportive. But I mean, what what is he gonna say.

657
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: He's gonna come out and be malcolms right? My producers

658
00:34:57,000 --> 00:34:59,640
Speaker 1: not here, so my other producer justin we're working out

659
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Speaker 1: some kids behind. I totally understand the dynamic. He also had.

660
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: Marie Cooper actually hasn't spoken in eight years of being

661
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 1: an NFL player. I like, I've never seen his lips move.

662
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:13,640
Speaker 1: He has no mouth. Actually that's a little fun factor.

663
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: Well that would be useful in Cleveland for once. In

664
00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 1: their news, the Steelers have identified their solution behind center,

665
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:23,200
Speaker 1: or at least they at least they hope they have.

666
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,800
Speaker 1: And I love it. This one's spicy. This is spicy Greggy,

667
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: not just in the a f C North Um for

668
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: Steelers fans, but also for the Around the NFL podcast.

669
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Speaker 1: Because Mark's old friend Mitch Trabinsky has signed a agreed

670
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: to terms on a all these deals become official Wednesday.

671
00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: So nothing signed yet unless you're already a member of

672
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 1: a team for an extension. But these teams, all these

673
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: become official on Wednesday, two year contract agreed to. Um.

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00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 1: This is the same Trabiscue who's gotten breathless coverage over

675
00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,800
Speaker 1: the last month or so. UM. And you know what,

676
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I'm not saying he's

677
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: deserving a breathless coverage. He does signed to be a

678
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 1: starting quarterback for an a f C team that's been, um,

679
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, relevant for decades. So mark Mitch Drabinsky, a

680
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: man that you were never high on coming out of

681
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Speaker 1: North Carolina. UM, you renumber two overall pick. Now Drabinski

682
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: has one last chance to stick it to you in

683
00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: the North. I don't get it at all. UM. I

684
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,560
Speaker 1: don't know what Pittsburgh's ultimate plan here is that he

685
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: is clearly there start like, I give him the obvious

686
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:32,879
Speaker 1: a choice to lead over Mason Rudolph going into where

687
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:36,000
Speaker 1: they are right now. Uh. To me, it's like we

688
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: were told Mason Rudolph was a good option at we

689
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: didn't buy that. They're throwing it out there. That's like

690
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,880
Speaker 1: nothing changed with Rudolph. He's still competing the Star. I mean,

691
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,279
Speaker 1: I think they don't have an answer, but they did

692
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: talk to the Niners about Jimmy G. I think that

693
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 1: that the game plan with Jimmy G probably has teams

694
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 1: maybe a little freaked at this point. But Mitch Drabinsky

695
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: seems to be this quarterback that his thriving in this

696
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: Like you mentioned this hoopla around him because everyone blames

697
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 1: the Bears and how the Bears used and I keep

698
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 1: hearing that over and over that teams don't really look

699
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: at what Chicago did with miss Robinsky and blame ms Robisky.

700
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: They blame the Bears. Fine, there's a ton of bad

701
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 1: tape on m R Bisky where he's making terrible decisions

702
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: and doing things an NFL starters should not be doing.

703
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: I don't care if he's on the Bears or he's

704
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,840
Speaker 1: on a high school team. It's not adequate. And so

705
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: Fittsburgh is gonna run into the same issue. I I

706
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: want to see the contracts you're talking about, Sizzler. Come on,

707
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: this is every free agency report. Though I've been here

708
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: all day long listening to multiple stations, we are over

709
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:41,399
Speaker 1: inflating every one of these players. And then the real

710
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 1: games started, it's like, oh, it's week three, and the

711
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,000
Speaker 1: Steelers understand finally, Mr Robinsky is not a competent start.

712
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. When he's not being over inflated in

713
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 1: this room right now, I will say this though, the Steelers,

714
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,359
Speaker 1: like the Colts and these other teams that are kind

715
00:37:56,400 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: of stuck in QB purgatory right now, there aren't a

716
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: lot of like great answers where you are right, if

717
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: you are looking, if you feel like you can contend

718
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,400
Speaker 1: for a playoff spot but you don't have a quarterback,

719
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: there aren't a lot of great options. And that's how

720
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Speaker 1: you end up over paying for Carson Wentz or Jimmy

721
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: g And so Mitch Trobinsky is of that same ilk.

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Speaker 1: To me, maybe a step below based on what he's

723
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 1: shown us in his career. Um. But if he was

724
00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 1: paid ten dollars, he was overpaid. All right, I get it.

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00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:28,520
Speaker 1: You don't like we're with you, plug on it. That

726
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: is a still graver. I don't want to tell you

727
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: how to do. Let's have a still a mark in

728
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 1: like a funny funny face, and it was if it's

729
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:44,959
Speaker 1: paid ten dollars, that's too much. My point is whether

730
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Speaker 1: you are the commander is whether uh you are this

731
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,680
Speaker 1: team the Steelers. You could just say, all right, we

732
00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: were in a tough spot. We kind of put ourselves

733
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 1: in this box. We knew Ben was retiring, but we

734
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: never really got things set up. So we'll see what

735
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: happens with Trabisk. We wanted a mobile quarterback. We made

736
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: that very clear. Now we have it, and if it

737
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 1: doesn't work, we'll get rid of him and next year

738
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: is a better quarterback class. It's gonna be a fresh

739
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: crop of guys on the market and we could try

740
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: this again. So I think he's nothing more than a

741
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 1: stop gaps slash. We have a hunch about him. We'll

742
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:19,760
Speaker 1: see how it plays out. There's no long term commitment.

743
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 1: After everything I've said, he'll probably blow up and be

744
00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:24,920
Speaker 1: the comeback player of the year. I mean this is

745
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: that's it's just as equally a narrative. I'm with you

746
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 1: that I have no belief. I'm with you that I

747
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: have no interest in Trabisky. But to me, I want

748
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,840
Speaker 1: to see the contract before I have too strong of

749
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:42,160
Speaker 1: an opinion on it. The fact that we haven't seen

750
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: the money usually as a sign that there's not that

751
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:48,359
Speaker 1: much money, and My suspicion is it's one of those

752
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: contracts that it's not really a starter contract. It's like

753
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: a high level backup contract where he's the favorite over

754
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph. And I believe personally that they're a strong

755
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,160
Speaker 1: candidate to draft a quarterback in the first round or

756
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,840
Speaker 1: the second round. Still, and if that's the case, that

757
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: that's fine. I personally would rather have Andy Dalton then

758
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:10,319
Speaker 1: Mitchell Drabinsky. I think he's a better player right now,

759
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: and and you can say maybe doesn't have the the upside,

760
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 1: but I'd rather have the other one be options. But

761
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,879
Speaker 1: if the contract isn't that high, if it's like nine

762
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:20,280
Speaker 1: or ten million dollars per season, that that's my guests,

763
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 1: and they might draft someone. Okay, that's fine, you're just

764
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: kind of kicking the can. Frame they draft someone of

765
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 1: note in like the first round, where they're sitting, a

766
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 1: lot of what I've said goes away. I mean, because Rabinsky,

767
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,799
Speaker 1: you know, none of these guys are ready to start

768
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 1: Day one most likely, and Trabisky holds. And if they

769
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,280
Speaker 1: don't draft anyone, that makes sense too. So just affirmed

770
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: that they don't like this draft class, so let's find

771
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: somebody else a veteran to handle this year and see

772
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:47,560
Speaker 1: what happens. How about this, Here's what said. I would

773
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,880
Speaker 1: have taken Teddy, you know, I mean, I know you would, Buddy.

774
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 1: Here's the best case slash worst case scenario for this show,

775
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: Greg Sunday Night Football Week seven. Trabinsky goes off for

776
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, passing one, rushing Steelers thirty four Browns twenty

777
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: and then we go right back to the studio to tape.

778
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go that is not a good case. I've

779
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: been dumping on Mitch Robisky too for five years too,

780
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: so I'm a mom on team Mark here. I don't

781
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,919
Speaker 1: have as much at staying and but I also, yeah,

782
00:41:24,280 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: I don't like you, know, Mark, being angry makes me uncomfortable.

783
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,400
Speaker 1: I already I can tell that I'm going to be

784
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,720
Speaker 1: getting crushed on this entire diet. We have developing news.

785
00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,719
Speaker 1: I love it. It's a great spicy subplot. Mark. I

786
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:38,800
Speaker 1: don't wish pain for you, but it would be interesting

787
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: if you had a nice year developing news. Oh, I

788
00:41:44,200 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 1: like this one from the aforementioned Adam Schefter. Former Broncos

789
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: quarterback Teddy Bridgewater intends to sign a one year deal

790
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,640
Speaker 1: to be the backup QB I put I'm gonna put

791
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:57,600
Speaker 1: backup Qban air quotes for the Miami Dolphins Perles, per

792
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: league sources. So there you go, Greggy, so bridge Water

793
00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 1: has now made the transition as I believe should have

794
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:07,240
Speaker 1: been the case for a couple of years. He's signing

795
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:11,759
Speaker 1: a true backup deal. But if you're a teddy fan,

796
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: there are worse places to go than this Mike McDaniel

797
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:18,760
Speaker 1: offense with to who a lot of people aren't sold

798
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,360
Speaker 1: on yet. He could have a chance here. I like it.

799
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: I like him in that system. He hasn't really been

800
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 1: UH in that style of system. I think he has

801
00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: some of the strengths of of toa UH certainly or

802
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: experience and could be a better version of him. And

803
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: I think it makes sense for the Dolphins too to

804
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:41,239
Speaker 1: have a fail safe here if it doesn't click with

805
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 1: two and Mike mctel. You have the best backup quarterback

806
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: in the league all of a sudden, in an offensive

807
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 1: system that I think it's going to be spicy, intriguing,

808
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: and a great place for any quarterback over under on

809
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: how many starts he makes for well to to to

810
00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:58,640
Speaker 1: stay healthy last year, I think no, now he missed.

811
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Speaker 1: How about I'd say not even to us health. Let's

812
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: say to it is healthy, but TOAs performance I'm going

813
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,839
Speaker 1: for for some reason, alright, Uh No, I would say

814
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,920
Speaker 1: starts for two. I'll set it twelve and a half

815
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Speaker 1: to have missed five games last year. Five starts. Uh,

816
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 1: that would be an over for Teddy. Then okay, four

817
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 1: and a half, twelve and a half seen basically, what

818
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: is their record October? Yeah, if they are four and

819
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: three to two, will continue to be the starting quarterback.

820
00:43:30,680 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: If they are two and five, he will no longer

821
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Speaker 1: be this and the previous best backup quarterback in football's

822
00:43:36,239 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick, and that was under a different leadership with

823
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: Brian Flores. But Flores could not stomach the sight of

824
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:44,560
Speaker 1: giving to a big snaps when he could see a

825
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:46,880
Speaker 1: playoff berth in sight, and Ryan Fitzpatrick kept on going

826
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 1: into the lineup. Now you have another very capable backup.

827
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Speaker 1: Is he the best backup that? That sounds like a

828
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 1: great June podcast episode segment. That's an he wasn't. Yeah,

829
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Speaker 1: he was the backup in New Orleans when when he

830
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: ripped off five wins, not playing like that? Well, so

831
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:05,439
Speaker 1: he did have one year as a as a true

832
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,800
Speaker 1: backup with the Saints. But it makes sense to me

833
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,239
Speaker 1: there aren't really other starting jobs available. I don't think

834
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,359
Speaker 1: Carolina was bringing him back all. We're playing a little

835
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: catch up here. This was annoying. It happened on Friday,

836
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Speaker 1: UM or on Thursday. I think there's the TV show

837
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: after our podcast taping, so you know, come on, what's up.

838
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,400
Speaker 1: Chargers charges acquire outside linebacker Khalil Mack from the Bears

839
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 1: in exchange for a second round pick in six round pick. Uh.

840
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,879
Speaker 1: Not a huge haul there, mark for Khalil Mack, who

841
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 1: obviously was at the center of one of the biggest

842
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: trades of the previous decade when he went from the

843
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: Raiders to the Bears. On paper, it looks really good

844
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Speaker 1: for l A, who doesn't have to give up a

845
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: lot takes on the rest of his contract, and now

846
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 1: Joey Boza has a buddy to go get the quarterback

847
00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 1: if mac And is surgically repaired, foot are legit and healthy.

848
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:58,200
Speaker 1: I think one of the worst things that happened in

849
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,880
Speaker 1: all of last football season, and it's in It robbed

850
00:45:01,000 --> 00:45:03,680
Speaker 1: us of something that would have been magical in January

851
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: was that thirty five to thirty two loss the Chargers

852
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 1: suffered to the Raiders that sent the snooze fest Steelers

853
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: into the playoffs. I can only wonder what would have

854
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: happened in that game and you had Khalil Mack. The Chargers,

855
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: despite Brandon Staley's genius, gave up twenty five plus points

856
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: nine times last year. They were twenty six defensive d

857
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: v o A. They needed someone next to Bosa. You're

858
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: in a division that is becoming spicier by the minute

859
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: with intense quarterback play. I like this for the Chargers,

860
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: even if I'm not convinced Khalil Mack is maybe as

861
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: great a player as he was a couple of years ago. Genus,

862
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: Hey look, thank you. Is genius? Respect think that he

863
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: is regarded as a one of the boy geniuses in

864
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,839
Speaker 1: the league. Has he proven that as a head coach,

865
00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,279
Speaker 1: We'll see. I think he was. He was strong, but

866
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 1: their defal it was casually dashed off. Their defense was

867
00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: bad under Staley, which was a surprise disappointment their defense

868
00:46:01,200 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 1: last year. So having Khalil Mack as a second pass

869
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: rusher that Joey Bosa is getting the attention slid to

870
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: him that's massive. Cleo Mac has never not been a

871
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,120
Speaker 1: an elite run stopper. At the very least, he's over

872
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:18,400
Speaker 1: there causing havoc, getting pressures. He's coming off an injury

873
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: uh marred season, but before that he was totally durable.

874
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,680
Speaker 1: He wasn't as good in Chicago though the last couple

875
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: of years. His best year there was certainly his first one.

876
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: And so the price that makes sense. But it's worth it,

877
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 1: and I think the Chargers are going big this offseason.

878
00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: This is this is risky. I'm I'm making what could

879
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: be seen as a a a rookie mistake here when

880
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: it comes to podcasting during free agency frenzy here, but

881
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: there is a lot of whispers right now connecting j C.

882
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 1: Jackson and the Chargers. By the time you listen to this,

883
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: maybe it'll be blown up. But my instinct is that

884
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. Uh Derwin James developing news, let's do

885
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: it rapture. The Chargers are expected to sign former Patriots

886
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: cornerback J. C. Jackson. So one of the jewels of

887
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: this free agency crop, a man that was an absolutely

888
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 1: was nails for the Patriots and that secondary of ball

889
00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:20,040
Speaker 1: hawk a big time player, big money deal, huge money deal.

890
00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: I would imagine we don't have the numbers yet. Joins

891
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:26,640
Speaker 1: Derwin James and that secondary Hello, that's awesome. I think

892
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,840
Speaker 1: that's a great fit for them. I think with the

893
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:33,920
Speaker 1: type of defense that they want to run, which is

894
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:38,800
Speaker 1: really forcing teams to go the length of the field,

895
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:41,440
Speaker 1: having a guy who can match up like that in

896
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: man coverage, that can certainly play zone two, that is

897
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: a ball hawk more than anything, is such a good

898
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,560
Speaker 1: fit because in Staley's defense, you're gonna have your eyes

899
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 1: on the quarterback a lot more often, uh than J. C.

900
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:55,799
Speaker 1: Jackson even did in New England when he picked off

901
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:57,759
Speaker 1: the ball plenty. I mean he he has one of

902
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: the best knows for the ball, ball skills instincts that

903
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: I've ever seen out of a cornerback, and the numbers

904
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,640
Speaker 1: support it. Like he is on a record setting trajectory

905
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 1: in terms of the interceptions in the past reflections that

906
00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 1: he's had through four or five years in the league.

907
00:48:13,880 --> 00:48:16,839
Speaker 1: And yes, Daley is gonna play more zone defense than

908
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:18,719
Speaker 1: the Patriots, but they played plenty of zone with the

909
00:48:18,760 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 1: Patriots and Jackson excelled in that too. He's gonna be

910
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,560
Speaker 1: able to do a little bit of everything. I love

911
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 1: this for Staley, who who seems to know how to

912
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 1: get the most out of stars, and he just added

913
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:32,640
Speaker 1: two more of him to his defense. You got Justin

914
00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 1: Herbert costing you seven point two million next year. Obviously,

915
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: that's the window to be spending money if you're the Bears, though,

916
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:42,600
Speaker 1: Like you just signed Matt Eberflus as your head coach

917
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: and then a month later shotgun Khalil Mac out of

918
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: the building. They're in a full rebuild. They're gonna have

919
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: a ton of cap space under Ryan Poles the GM

920
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 1: next offseason. But this offseason is this year on defense

921
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: at least is not gonna be matt efluss number one product.

922
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: I think the going back to that trade it make

923
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: sense on both sides because the Bears are rebuilding, even

924
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: if they don't want to tell you they are, and

925
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: they get rid of all that money for thirty something

926
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:12,080
Speaker 1: outside linebacker, and the Chargers are obvious win now mode.

927
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: And now, if you want to like kind of spin

928
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,239
Speaker 1: it back a little bit further, that trade, which was

929
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: one of the biggest trades since we've been doing this show.

930
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,879
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a lose lose like who who

931
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: won the Raiders. The only player of note that came

932
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,359
Speaker 1: out of that ultimately was Josh Jacobs, who's a good

933
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,560
Speaker 1: running back. And the Bears, I think they were one

934
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:34,680
Speaker 1: game over five hundred and Mac was absolute stud one

935
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: or two years, but ultimately that didn't put them over

936
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: the top either. So I'm not gonna say much ado

937
00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 1: about nothing, but that's how all the talk about that

938
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:45,239
Speaker 1: trade yielded very rich. You're saying that they should not

939
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,800
Speaker 1: have given the Raiders the Sloan Conference award for the

940
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: Trade of the Year. Do you remember that that that

941
00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 1: was the cleon Mac trade. It's almost gonna canceled the

942
00:49:55,560 --> 00:49:58,360
Speaker 1: Salone Conference. I think the process was win win for

943
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: both teams. It's just they made bad picks in with

944
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:03,959
Speaker 1: the Raiders, and that's you just gotta make good picks.

945
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: But at the process made sense and the defense was

946
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 1: super Bowl championship level for two years for the Bears.

947
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:12,319
Speaker 1: Like if they didn't draft Mitch Drabinsky, if they had

948
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 1: drafted a different quarterback in that spot, they might have

949
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: just won a super Bowl. Just saying like that, the

950
00:50:18,800 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: defense was ready to go win a super Bowl and

951
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: we're awesome, especially that first year, but really for two years,

952
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 1: they just messed up the rest of the team. The

953
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: Chargers on the official team of the off season, though

954
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 1: every year I get excited about the Chargers hype. My god,

955
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: this team is fun. The first reports are forty million

956
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: guaranteed for J C. Jackson five years, eighty two million.

957
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,279
Speaker 1: I thought it could have been worse for him, so

958
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: I actually, I mean yeah, I mean I thought it

959
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,400
Speaker 1: could have cost more to get him. You mentioned Herbert's

960
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: rookie contract just before we move on quickly, it's like

961
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,120
Speaker 1: they have also they also have a left tackle Rashawn Slater,

962
00:50:57,320 --> 00:51:00,200
Speaker 1: and a rookie contract franchise left tackle one of the

963
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 1: best in the NFL for like three or four more years.

964
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 1: And Derwin James is still on his rookie contract at

965
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 1: least for like one more year. Maybe maybe not even

966
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: by the end of this offseason. But they've got like

967
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,800
Speaker 1: three all Pro type players on their rookie contracts. I

968
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: love that, you know, go for it right. There are

969
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: two ways to go for it, all right, and and

970
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:18,040
Speaker 1: we're seeing it from both l A teams. The l

971
00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: A Rams went for it by saying we're gonna sell

972
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 1: all of our future assets our first round picks. We're

973
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: gonna get as much premium talent as we can via

974
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 1: the free free agent market for you the trade market,

975
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:31,360
Speaker 1: and hopefully it all coalesces and you build a champion

976
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 1: and have a nice run. They did it the Chargers.

977
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: This is the more traditional way you hit on the quarterback.

978
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 1: You have a young star quarterback who will be one

979
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: of the top five, maybe number one paid player in

980
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,520
Speaker 1: the league in a couple of years. But right now

981
00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: you have a chance and a window to bring in

982
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:50,160
Speaker 1: a bunch of stud talent. Here's the window they have

983
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: to They can't they can't chargeer this this is the

984
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: year where they need to make that leap and become

985
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 1: a true AVC contender. I don't know how long we've

986
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,800
Speaker 1: been talking about that as a possibility, but it is

987
00:52:00,040 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 1: out or never. Want to sit now. I don't know

988
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:06,160
Speaker 1: about never, because Herbert and those guys aren't going You're

989
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 1: paying Herbert next. But they're gonna be a contender with

990
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,080
Speaker 1: Herbert as long as they're well run. But that secondary

991
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 1: assante Samuel Jr. Is a is a thief. J C.

992
00:52:17,360 --> 00:52:20,280
Speaker 1: Jackson is a thief. Derwin James is a thief. Adderly

993
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: played pretty well last year. That is a team that

994
00:52:22,640 --> 00:52:24,440
Speaker 1: should be turning the ball over, even if they're going

995
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 1: to give up a lot of yards. That kind of

996
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: comes with the program with Staley. They should force a

997
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,040
Speaker 1: lot of turnovers, give Justin Herbert a lot of exit

998
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: with the Chargers. What could possibly go wrong? Nothing at all? Alright, wow, okay,

999
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: so we got a lot. Now we're seeing some movement

1000
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 1: on Greggy's top ten free agents, the top one oh one.

1001
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: So that that was a big Where was j C.

1002
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: Who's too too? I I made a last minute adjustment.

1003
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: They don't usually let me change the list and flipped

1004
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 1: one in two and made him to to Toronto Armstead.

1005
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 1: He was, all right, let's take a break and continue

1006
00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: to cycle through the events of the day. All Right,

1007
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: we're back. Graver is doing pretty well so far. I

1008
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: think I think he's holding it together. I don't see,

1009
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:09,120
Speaker 1: you know, beads of sweat coming down the I mean,

1010
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:12,799
Speaker 1: he's got a great home life, so you know, right,

1011
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 1: he's calm, he's cool, he's collected. That's how he went

1012
00:53:15,840 --> 00:53:19,399
Speaker 1: full Davidson and the biggest of all spots. I missed

1013
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: a couple of things, but the audience will never know

1014
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 1: because we're adding him in posts, so exactly don't tell

1015
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: us that though it don't tell anyone that is radio

1016
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 1: people would be like, oh, seeing the seems a little

1017
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:32,799
Speaker 1: bit here, but we don't. We don't have to worry

1018
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,520
Speaker 1: about that here. But just wait. By the end of

1019
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: the week will be it will be a humming machine.

1020
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 1: And again, let's let's let's discuss the stakes quickly before

1021
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 1: we dive back into the news. Justin I have no

1022
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: doubt is going to do a great job all week

1023
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 1: with that great team behind him, Salely, Stableton, Randy. But

1024
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: what if he does too good a job and Ricky's

1025
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: on an island and she doesn't come back with a

1026
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:57,920
Speaker 1: ring on. We have to make a decision. It's a

1027
00:53:57,960 --> 00:53:59,759
Speaker 1: tough decision, but it would have to be a fair

1028
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 1: to decision. But what sort of decision would we be making, said, wow,

1029
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: it's a thorny. It would be a thorny. I mean,

1030
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,160
Speaker 1: already a tough week here, you know for for Patriots fans,

1031
00:54:12,360 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 1: you know, like Ricky, these are the two or three

1032
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: days a year. Everyone freaks out that that roots for

1033
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,400
Speaker 1: the pages. Why why did you let Jay C. Jackson go?

1034
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,359
Speaker 1: He's think And then you know, three or four days,

1035
00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:26,040
Speaker 1: they'll sign some guys who end up being productive. Come down. Yeah,

1036
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,160
Speaker 1: I still as someone who's still on the beat of

1037
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: like ts tisking Patriots fans for being J. C. Jackson

1038
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: would have been great to keep. Let's just let's just say.

1039
00:54:36,680 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 1: I still wonder. I wonder why Bill was so cool

1040
00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,280
Speaker 1: with letting the twenty six year old ball hawk corner

1041
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,480
Speaker 1: all pro dude go out, because he's like me and

1042
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 1: my four person coaching staff are gonna handle it by

1043
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 1: signing like thirty five year old veterans who can lead

1044
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Like just I know the charges

1045
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:58,839
Speaker 1: will never acknowledge it, but like, what something something, Maybe

1046
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:00,600
Speaker 1: there's something. I think we were pay a little bit

1047
00:55:00,640 --> 00:55:03,879
Speaker 1: more for this guy, right the other team didn't want him.

1048
00:55:04,360 --> 00:55:07,680
Speaker 1: Now it's fine, right, I mean, he came into the

1049
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 1: league with some pretty grim um off field issues, but

1050
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 1: that has not been the case. Uh, you know, since

1051
00:55:16,480 --> 00:55:21,200
Speaker 1: he's coming to maturity. No, Mark, Mark never had anything

1052
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 1: this disturbance. I came in with a pristine record. It's

1053
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,920
Speaker 1: just becomes more problematic since that's kind of the cool

1054
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 1: way to do it. Yeah, that's why that's why he

1055
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:36,680
Speaker 1: was undrafted in the first place. Uh it was you know,

1056
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: I hate that when people say that. I just wanted

1057
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:39,880
Speaker 1: to make sure I got the words right. He was

1058
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: arrested for armed robbery, found not guilty, and there was

1059
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:44,560
Speaker 1: a couple other things, but that was that was the

1060
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:47,440
Speaker 1: main one. But that was why he was undrafted h

1061
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,799
Speaker 1: five years ago. Um Alright. In other news, let's get

1062
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 1: caught up with the kirk Cousins. I love this Kirk

1063
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: Cousin's career arc. You gotta give it up for the man.

1064
00:55:55,920 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 1: I mean, you could like him, you could hate him.

1065
00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: You could be annoyed that he was in a plexiglass box.

1066
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 1: You could be frankly turned on that Greg would get

1067
00:56:05,480 --> 00:56:08,879
Speaker 1: greased up and slid right in there. Depending on Yeah,

1068
00:56:08,920 --> 00:56:11,920
Speaker 1: depending on what you're into and and all that. Um,

1069
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,800
Speaker 1: but don't ever, don't ever discount the man's ability to

1070
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 1: be a businessman. Kirk Cousins signed a one year, thirty

1071
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 1: five million dollar extension with the Vikings that takes him

1072
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:30,839
Speaker 1: through the three season. Okay, so that deal is good

1073
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: for the Vikings and bad for the Vikings, depending on

1074
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,880
Speaker 1: what you think about Cousins and his ceiling and his

1075
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:38,960
Speaker 1: ability to lead a team. To a championship, considering he

1076
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:44,600
Speaker 1: has one playoff win in his life. But the calm down, Kirk.

1077
00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: The deal saves the Vikings fourteen million against the cap

1078
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,440
Speaker 1: this year, so that helps. It was going to be

1079
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: a record forty million dollar capit, so that's good. Um,

1080
00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:57,000
Speaker 1: I guess Greg. The question would be whether the Vikings

1081
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: will regret having a window here when they were teams

1082
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:04,320
Speaker 1: that perhaps were interested in taking on a player like Cousins,

1083
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:06,840
Speaker 1: and instead they say the best move for us is

1084
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:09,760
Speaker 1: to get in bed for two more years, most likely

1085
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:12,480
Speaker 1: with Kirk Cousins. Where do you come down on this move?

1086
00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,040
Speaker 1: I mean, at first, I was highly annoyed by it

1087
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: that the Vikings were just signing up for another year

1088
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,960
Speaker 1: of giving Kirk Cousins guaranteed money. He's guaranteed thirty million

1089
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,200
Speaker 1: dollars next year again, so he has been guaranteed his

1090
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,800
Speaker 1: salary every year. I think, since does not happen in

1091
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: the NFL, it's crazy. Then I heard some smart analysis,

1092
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:39,520
Speaker 1: but people smarter than me that actually noted with the

1093
00:57:39,600 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 1: way that the money was structured, he's more tradeable next

1094
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: year if they did try to move on that they

1095
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,600
Speaker 1: would be saving uh some cat money. Next year. Maybe

1096
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't know if I buy that, he'll still be

1097
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: guaranteed thirty million dollars at age thirty five. And it

1098
00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:58,360
Speaker 1: just felt like they knew they were gonna play this

1099
00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:01,439
Speaker 1: year with Kirk Cousins, and so they just felt once

1100
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,160
Speaker 1: again like let's just give him another extension because you

1101
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:07,320
Speaker 1: need that gap space. My biggest takeaway is I kind

1102
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: of get where Lamar Jackson is at being um taking

1103
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 1: the point that just don't sign me. I'm gonna play

1104
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 1: out that fifth year option. I'm gonna let you tag

1105
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: me potentially, I'm gonna let you tag me again because

1106
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,960
Speaker 1: if even though it's betting on yourself and it's highly risky,

1107
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:28,880
Speaker 1: the reward is being Kirk Cousins and controlling your the team,

1108
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: the next team that signs you, and controlling your future

1109
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:33,480
Speaker 1: for the rest of your career. He is one of

1110
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: the most powerful players in the NFL because of this

1111
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,439
Speaker 1: contract that he's signed with the Vikings five six years.

1112
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,760
Speaker 1: They they should just like in journalism classes, they should

1113
00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: study what Adam Schefter has done with a dealing with

1114
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,760
Speaker 1: agents and then using them as a mouthpiece. It should

1115
00:58:47,760 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: be studied other quarterbacks coming into the league. Agents and

1116
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: study how he handled this. Now, you have to be

1117
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: a certain market, have to be a certain level of quarterback.

1118
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: That's part of this too. That's that it's not just

1119
00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:01,320
Speaker 1: that he's a savvy businessman. He is just good enough

1120
00:59:01,600 --> 00:59:04,160
Speaker 1: to always have the leverage, but not great enough to

1121
00:59:04,280 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 1: ever really get a team to say I want you forever.

1122
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:11,680
Speaker 1: So he's kind of just a little by being about

1123
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: what you want as a quarterback, he's he's kind of

1124
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:19,280
Speaker 1: properly tiered. Next year in the year after looking at

1125
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,120
Speaker 1: the money makes when you're gonna have quarterbacks making fifty million,

1126
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: I think he is tradeable. I think there's a no

1127
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 1: trade clause inside of this, but I mean, I'm sure

1128
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 1: he could wait to work that into so he has

1129
00:59:27,800 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: more control there too, that he gets to choose his

1130
00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:35,600
Speaker 1: But if you're Kevin O'Connell, like look at the Steelers,

1131
00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,040
Speaker 1: you're looking around at the quarterback market. We thought a

1132
00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: couple of years ago that that this has been solved,

1133
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: that every team had a competent quarterback. Is just not

1134
00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:44,560
Speaker 1: the case. And so if you move on from Kirk Cousins,

1135
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 1: like we were floating around the idea of you shop

1136
00:59:46,840 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: Kirk Cousins for Baker Mayfield. Well, Minnesota's GM came from Cleveland.

1137
00:59:51,400 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: It's pretty clear what he thought about making that kind

1138
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 1: of a trade. They're sticking with the guy that I think,

1139
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,280
Speaker 1: if you're Kevin O'Connell thinks gives you the best chance

1140
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,680
Speaker 1: to get off to an okay start for the next

1141
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:03,480
Speaker 1: year or two and then we'll see okay. But you

1142
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,040
Speaker 1: know who's and I agree with that that makes sense,

1143
01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: But you know whose contract. This reminds me the most

1144
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: of our Drew Brees and Tom Brady that they keep

1145
01:00:12,080 --> 01:00:14,760
Speaker 1: adding these void years and kicking it one or two

1146
01:00:14,840 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: more years and at some point you're gonna have to

1147
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: eat the eat the poop. Except those guys are two

1148
01:00:19,840 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 1: of the greatest quarterbacks in the history of the NFL.

1149
01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: And the other one's Kirk because he's found this little

1150
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 1: knit Breezes Breezes contract like screwed that team towards. But

1151
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,560
Speaker 1: it's similar. Now they're adding into they added these two

1152
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: fake void years till five and at some point they're

1153
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to take their medicine with cousins. Except all

1154
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:39,720
Speaker 1: you're getting this cousin in Matt Ryan fashion. Yes, this

1155
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: is just to break it down two thousand, sixteen, he

1156
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,800
Speaker 1: got tagged by the Washington football teams. That's when the

1157
01:00:44,840 --> 01:00:47,800
Speaker 1: guarantees nineteen point nine million. Then they tagged him again,

1158
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 1: so that made him twenty three point nine and then

1159
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,280
Speaker 1: he started making more bank The next year's twenty six million,

1160
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: eight million, forty million, twenty one million, thirty million, forty

1161
01:00:57,240 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: million next year, over two thirty million in career totals,

1162
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,280
Speaker 1: one playoff win. It's why it's it's absurd. So if

1163
01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 1: you if you are Bradford, if you are Lamar Jackson,

1164
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: you guys said he had to be a certain type

1165
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: of quarterback to stumble into this. That's true. But if

1166
01:01:12,600 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 1: you are a guy like Lamar Jackson, you could look

1167
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: at Patrick Mahomes and think like Mahomes is underpaid and Lamar.

1168
01:01:19,360 --> 01:01:21,520
Speaker 1: If I was like his friend or his family, I'd

1169
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: be worried because you're one injury away. You know, you're

1170
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 1: a couple injuries away from this changing or your career

1171
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: goes in a wrong direction and it could change. But

1172
01:01:28,520 --> 01:01:32,120
Speaker 1: imagine if you are a top shelf QB and play

1173
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:35,480
Speaker 1: out the Kirk Cousins thing Mama like, then it gets

1174
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,000
Speaker 1: you can set boundaries that have never happened, and so

1175
01:01:39,520 --> 01:01:41,120
Speaker 1: I think that is what he might go for. And

1176
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 1: security matters of course. Uh, and a long term deal

1177
01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: that that gives. Even in the NFL, a long term

1178
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 1: deals usually like two or three years. But if you

1179
01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: and if you can make it through two franchise tag

1180
01:01:51,600 --> 01:01:53,560
Speaker 1: gears as a quarterback in the modern NFL, it's like

1181
01:01:53,640 --> 01:01:56,040
Speaker 1: sixty million guaranteed dollars, you are set up for Like,

1182
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:57,600
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he's just got to get to the tach.

1183
01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,920
Speaker 1: This is really the most risky year. He'll be on

1184
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,160
Speaker 1: a fifth year option Lamar, that is for about twenty

1185
01:02:02,200 --> 01:02:04,439
Speaker 1: million dollars. But that's still a nice chunk of change

1186
01:02:04,440 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: in a in a big time r And yet if

1187
01:02:06,040 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 1: you're a Vikings fan, you're nonplussed. Yeah, I don't like it.

1188
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:14,240
Speaker 1: I got a lot of angry Vikings fans in my tweets,

1189
01:02:14,320 --> 01:02:16,480
Speaker 1: so they're a little you know, saying, how it makes

1190
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: Why are they angry at you? Well, because I was

1191
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: just pointing out how how surprised I was that they

1192
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 1: didn't just take their medicine, that they kicked it forward

1193
01:02:24,000 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 1: another year. It makes sense in the context of just

1194
01:02:27,760 --> 01:02:29,720
Speaker 1: two I get it, because you had another tweet that

1195
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:32,720
Speaker 1: you you. It was a confident tweet. Uh from a

1196
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,480
Speaker 1: man that's reading tea leaves. Some people don't want to

1197
01:02:35,520 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: hear it. Some people don't like a guy that's saying, Hey,

1198
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: this is the actual, this is what's going on here.

1199
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: Pay attention. Some people know it's gonna be like what

1200
01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: it happened to me today. I'm telling you it's a

1201
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: great You're having a moment on Twitter. The Jets signed

1202
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 1: a guard, okay, um Thomas and we're going to get

1203
01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:58,280
Speaker 1: to the night and everything. And minutes earlier, you had

1204
01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:01,600
Speaker 1: made a comment about Cincinnati signing multiple guards, like, hey,

1205
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 1: you can't develop your if you're signing guards the free

1206
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: agent deals, it means you can't develop within and coach

1207
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: them up. I like that sound. Take Someone parted your

1208
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: point in the first reply to me, and I was like,

1209
01:03:12,120 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 1: oh this is a sound was like, oh, this means

1210
01:03:13,720 --> 01:03:16,959
Speaker 1: you can't develop talent in your interior line is like wow,

1211
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:19,720
Speaker 1: it's influential. I tweeted that to you. That was that

1212
01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:22,880
Speaker 1: was me. All right, let's keep moving here. The Jaguars

1213
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:26,680
Speaker 1: are busy, busy, But how does it feel to be

1214
01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:30,240
Speaker 1: influential on the on the Twitter? I wish I could

1215
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:32,240
Speaker 1: believe that. I wish I could. I think you do

1216
01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: believe it. I don't. That's not the big concerntion. Really,

1217
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: this is hey. That says more about you. Jaguars signed

1218
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 1: right guard Brandon sure formerly of the Commanders. Actually he

1219
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:49,720
Speaker 1: was never a commander, well, I guess he was for

1220
01:03:49,760 --> 01:03:52,000
Speaker 1: about a month, but he never played for the command

1221
01:03:52,840 --> 01:03:55,360
Speaker 1: He played for the football Team, which will go down

1222
01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 1: as a fairly hilarious moment in football history that for

1223
01:03:58,760 --> 01:04:01,840
Speaker 1: two years there a team called the football team, and

1224
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 1: yet they chose a name that is less preferable. After that,

1225
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,600
Speaker 1: the Commanders, Brandon Shurff gets a he gets the bag,

1226
01:04:09,640 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: as they say, uh from the Jags. To fortify their interior,

1227
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,120
Speaker 1: their line, they also now it's gonna get tough. They

1228
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: sign linebacker Foye Sade a Lunacon formerly of the Falcons,

1229
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:25,240
Speaker 1: three years, forty five million. And they're not done, you

1230
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: know I, because they say, we need our boy Trevor

1231
01:04:29,320 --> 01:04:33,440
Speaker 1: law Lawrence to have more weapons. So they give Christian Kirk,

1232
01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:37,240
Speaker 1: formerly of the Cardinals, a huge contract, four year deal

1233
01:04:37,960 --> 01:04:42,640
Speaker 1: worth up to eighty four million. Apparently if you kind

1234
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:44,080
Speaker 1: of dig a little bit on it. And that's where

1235
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: Greg could come in perhaps the year old. It's more

1236
01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 1: like a seventy two million dollar deal too. For thirty

1237
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:53,760
Speaker 1: seven is kind of as as four for seven. Now

1238
01:04:53,920 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 1: break it down. I'm not great at math, but that

1239
01:04:55,960 --> 01:04:58,560
Speaker 1: means that's eighteen and a half per year. Your boy

1240
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:01,240
Speaker 1: Mary Cooper Mark just got twenty million for one year

1241
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:05,080
Speaker 1: from the from the Cowboys trade. So great, Christian Kirk

1242
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,080
Speaker 1: getting a huge amount of money for guys it's never

1243
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: even had a thousand yards season. Yeah, I'd rather have

1244
01:05:10,440 --> 01:05:14,200
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper. He I mean, he's a fine secondary

1245
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:17,919
Speaker 1: or tertiary receiver to use a westward that you would

1246
01:05:17,960 --> 01:05:20,200
Speaker 1: throw in there sometimes. I mean he's he's you need

1247
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 1: three or four receivers and he can be one of them.

1248
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: I I don't. I haven't seen the huge upside. And

1249
01:05:27,720 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 1: so it's a lot of money. But the Jaguars need

1250
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:35,040
Speaker 1: players all all four of their signings, And did you

1251
01:05:35,120 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 1: mentioned Photo Kassi, who I liked fully folds from the

1252
01:05:39,000 --> 01:05:42,760
Speaker 1: from them. So they had four big signings, including Schurf,

1253
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,840
Speaker 1: including Kirk, including a Lukan. Probably two out of those

1254
01:05:46,920 --> 01:05:49,920
Speaker 1: four work. But I don't hate it because I'm sort

1255
01:05:49,960 --> 01:05:52,160
Speaker 1: of on the corner of waste cap space is a

1256
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 1: terrible thing to waste. You need starting players of the four.

1257
01:05:56,480 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: I feel like Schurf is a big time risk and

1258
01:05:58,720 --> 01:06:00,760
Speaker 1: a Lui Khan is to who kind of came on

1259
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:04,320
Speaker 1: really strong last year for the Falcons, hadn't done much before.

1260
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:08,200
Speaker 1: PFF like hated him, had him a sub fifty uh

1261
01:06:08,720 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 1: grade for what it's worth. Uh So there's some big

1262
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:13,439
Speaker 1: time risk, but I kind of like, I think Kirk

1263
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:15,560
Speaker 1: is a fine weapon to add in photo. Kassi was

1264
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,360
Speaker 1: one of my favorites. I mean, you're the Jaguars, so

1265
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,280
Speaker 1: you're you know that we've seen this before. They played

1266
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 1: this exact record, you know, multiple times in the off

1267
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: season overspend for free agents because they were you know,

1268
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: they loved their cap space for years on end. Uh sure,

1269
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: if I like him and when he plays, he's missed

1270
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:33,600
Speaker 1: twenty two starts over the past four seasons, and it's

1271
01:06:33,640 --> 01:06:36,040
Speaker 1: like suddenly your offensive line breaks down at the guy

1272
01:06:36,080 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: that you're counting on, you know, Washington. He was one

1273
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,560
Speaker 1: of the more badass linemen out there. But I gave

1274
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: up a single sack last year. The durability is but there,

1275
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 1: you can't. You gotta be there. He's a badass. There

1276
01:06:51,880 --> 01:06:55,040
Speaker 1: somewhere worries he's breaking down physically, but like that's a

1277
01:06:55,120 --> 01:06:57,360
Speaker 1: huge boom er bust signing and that that could be

1278
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,959
Speaker 1: a total boom. But they tried the same with Andrew

1279
01:07:00,080 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: Norwell a few years ago, paying him more money than

1280
01:07:02,640 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 1: any guard had ever got, and he quietly, you know,

1281
01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:06,960
Speaker 1: got to the end of that contract this year and

1282
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: is not in the top one o one breaking news

1283
01:07:11,040 --> 01:07:15,960
Speaker 1: the Bucks. It's the Brady effect. The Bucks are bringing

1284
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: back one of their own car. Cornerback Carlton Davis is

1285
01:07:18,720 --> 01:07:22,480
Speaker 1: expected to resign with Tampa as they retain a part

1286
01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:25,439
Speaker 1: of their core. That's from rap sheet. Uh, same deal.

1287
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,120
Speaker 1: There was an understanding that Davis was gonna be out

1288
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:30,280
Speaker 1: the door, that Ryan Jensen was gonna be out the door.

1289
01:07:30,320 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 1: And now you understand the timing more of Tom Brady's

1290
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 1: announcement on Sunday, because you had to let the people know,

1291
01:07:37,360 --> 01:07:40,640
Speaker 1: let the team know, I'm here. Now let's do business

1292
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 1: and put this team together. I love this for Tampa

1293
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:46,200
Speaker 1: Bay because look at this was not last year. You're

1294
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:48,760
Speaker 1: gonna lose all these guys. Leonard Fournett basically had a

1295
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: post at some point saying like I'm out I'm done

1296
01:07:51,840 --> 01:07:53,880
Speaker 1: in Tampa and now he deleted that. It's like it

1297
01:07:54,040 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: is the Tom Brady effect. It's like, run it back

1298
01:07:56,440 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get better player deals. Jason light you know,

1299
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:01,040
Speaker 1: you get Tom Brady. But Jason liked still a lot

1300
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:02,800
Speaker 1: of work to do. This was a huge piece. I

1301
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 1: think it's surprising. I thought he was gonna go somewhere else. Well,

1302
01:08:05,400 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 1: if there's no coincidence in my mind that this happens

1303
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: minutes after J. C. Jackson, So these are the two

1304
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: top cornerbacks in the market. The Davis sees what Jackson got.

1305
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:17,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if the charges were in on Davis

1306
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,600
Speaker 1: or not. And he ends up settling, you know, with

1307
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:23,880
Speaker 1: settling in quotes for slightly less than than J. C.

1308
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 1: Jackson got, but a similar type of deal, and knowing that,

1309
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: like that's where the markets at. I don't need to

1310
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: wait around that much longer waiting for a better deal.

1311
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,640
Speaker 1: Maybe the Bucks had the best deal for him the

1312
01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:37,720
Speaker 1: whole time. Who knows, maybe they stepped up, but I

1313
01:08:37,800 --> 01:08:41,240
Speaker 1: really like them. It's interesting to meet cornerbacks are getting

1314
01:08:41,360 --> 01:08:45,439
Speaker 1: paid a little less just in this market, then I

1315
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 1: feel like they were five years ago relative to other positions.

1316
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Harold Landry got fifty two million dollars guaranteed.

1317
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,960
Speaker 1: Mike Williams and Christian Kirk are getting eighteen twenty million

1318
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 1: dollars a year at receiver, and yet the two top

1319
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: cornerbacks at the market, it uh totally at their peak,

1320
01:09:02,040 --> 01:09:04,839
Speaker 1: are getting like fifteen a year. That that seems reasonable

1321
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: to me. But maybe it's a little bit of the

1322
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:09,760
Speaker 1: the scheme change that's going around football, and it's not

1323
01:09:09,800 --> 01:09:11,680
Speaker 1: always going to be this way. But all the too

1324
01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,840
Speaker 1: high looks, all the zone coverage, maybe you don't pay

1325
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: as much for cornerbacks in those systems. Five tps on

1326
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: the field and right a budget allotted for your secondary

1327
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: and maybe it makes more sense to have four good

1328
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 1: guys rather than great dude and three budget guys. So

1329
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:31,840
Speaker 1: I love that move for Davis. I love it for

1330
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:37,280
Speaker 1: the Bucks. Davante Adams, he's not happy. Well I don't

1331
01:09:37,280 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: know if he's not happy, but he is letting it

1332
01:09:39,080 --> 01:09:42,840
Speaker 1: be known that, yes, Aaron Rodgers got his contract. But

1333
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:45,880
Speaker 1: don't just assume that just because Aaron's back. I do

1334
01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:48,560
Speaker 1: bend me, shape me, find a way to fold me

1335
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:51,080
Speaker 1: into your Green Bay plans. I'm the best wide receiver

1336
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 1: in the league. In my Mind and NFL Networks, Ian

1337
01:09:53,479 --> 01:09:56,600
Speaker 1: Rappaport reports that Davante Adams refuses to play under the

1338
01:09:56,680 --> 01:10:00,080
Speaker 1: franchise tag in the two sides are quote for are

1339
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: apart on a long term deal. According to Ian and um,

1340
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 1: I wonder and wouldn't this be mark kind of interesting

1341
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,000
Speaker 1: because the whole assumption that many of us have been

1342
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: working under is like, hey, if Rogers is back, Adams

1343
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:17,320
Speaker 1: is back, but given green based cap issues, if he's

1344
01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 1: not gonna play ball and work under a one year deal.

1345
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,040
Speaker 1: And by the way, it's a different situation. This is

1346
01:10:22,120 --> 01:10:24,639
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. He's gonna be runn the wrong side

1347
01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:28,120
Speaker 1: of thirty next year. It's a volatile physical position. This

1348
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:31,040
Speaker 1: is the time for him to get paid. Would Green

1349
01:10:31,120 --> 01:10:32,920
Speaker 1: Bay possibly feel like they were in a position where

1350
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:35,560
Speaker 1: they had to move Adams in a trade and imagine

1351
01:10:35,680 --> 01:10:37,880
Speaker 1: him what he would fetch given what he's been able

1352
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: to do. The last ten years are disaster? You can't.

1353
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 1: I mean, you've already been through. You already thought that

1354
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 1: you got the hardest part of this thing figured out

1355
01:10:44,640 --> 01:10:48,040
Speaker 1: with Aaron Rodgers. And the thing is that Davante Adams

1356
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:50,599
Speaker 1: and the Packers have been far apart on a long

1357
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,400
Speaker 1: term deal the entire time. They've never gotten any closer.

1358
01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: And the Packers are in a tough situation financially. But

1359
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: how could you possibly sell to your fan base or

1360
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:01,360
Speaker 1: even your own law locker room that you go into

1361
01:11:01,400 --> 01:11:05,479
Speaker 1: this season after all this Aaron Rodgers melodrama without Davonte Adams.

1362
01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:08,960
Speaker 1: This is a team that, like even with those guys,

1363
01:11:09,200 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 1: cannot win playoff. Doesn't make common sense financial sense to

1364
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,800
Speaker 1: give Brady a two million or excuse me, Rogers a

1365
01:11:14,840 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 1: two hundred million dollar deal and then take away his

1366
01:11:17,200 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 1: best player on offense, especially when the wide receiver group

1367
01:11:20,479 --> 01:11:22,439
Speaker 1: behind him isn't good. The Green Bay is gonna figure

1368
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,000
Speaker 1: this out. Darius Smith and Stuff for Capris nominate this

1369
01:11:26,200 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 1: story as the wake us Up in September story the year,

1370
01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:34,920
Speaker 1: because a lot will be talked about and there's really

1371
01:11:35,000 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: only one and outcome, which is him being on the Packers.

1372
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,559
Speaker 1: But it might take until September, until that like eight

1373
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:44,760
Speaker 1: days before the season period to to settle it. So

1374
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,080
Speaker 1: it might be NFL dot com articles and I will

1375
01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:51,439
Speaker 1: read none of them. It's almost like, um, it's him

1376
01:11:51,560 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: do it's DeVante doing his buddy Rogers a favor, making

1377
01:11:54,439 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: life a little uncomfortable for Goody has got to figure

1378
01:11:57,400 --> 01:12:00,560
Speaker 1: this out with the salary cap, the negotiations and all this,

1379
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, they simply is

1380
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 1: not a scenario where they bring back Rogers and then

1381
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:08,080
Speaker 1: leave him with nothing. Absolutely, and so it's like Kyler Murray.

1382
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:10,080
Speaker 1: If there's some drama there, I can get with that

1383
01:12:10,280 --> 01:12:12,920
Speaker 1: as a daily update throughout our off season. We need

1384
01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: something that's right. There's mystery Adams. There's only one way

1385
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,479
Speaker 1: for it to end. So let's just let's just skip

1386
01:12:18,560 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 1: ahead to fast forward. But speaking of the Packers, Yes,

1387
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:24,000
Speaker 1: and Darius Smith, uh, he gets his walking papers, so

1388
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:28,240
Speaker 1: he hits free agency to really good years on their

1389
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: front seven, then was injured last year and now simply

1390
01:12:31,400 --> 01:12:34,559
Speaker 1: too expensive, especially with Davante Adams asking for a long

1391
01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:42,280
Speaker 1: term deal. Also, Preston Smith, shall we say it since

1392
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:44,360
Speaker 1: he brought it up, Grave Digger brought it up, so

1393
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 1: we're gonna hate him a little bit. Here said Hey,

1394
01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 1: anything that you hear in your ear, I can just

1395
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 1: take out and post. We've heard them. We called sausage fingers.

1396
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:54,240
Speaker 1: It's a little like guitar solo that we play to

1397
01:12:54,280 --> 01:12:56,400
Speaker 1: bring on guests, and I'd like to see how they

1398
01:12:56,640 --> 01:12:59,599
Speaker 1: react to it. But the guests, that's the second time

1399
01:12:59,640 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 1: that's pop in our ears. Now, graver, what's going on

1400
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 1: behind the glass? So I got a little soundboard thing

1401
01:13:03,560 --> 01:13:05,560
Speaker 1: and for some reason, when I press command H to

1402
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 1: hide it from my computer, it keeps playing that fers

1403
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:12,000
Speaker 1: but you don't have sausage fingers, but you keep on

1404
01:13:12,120 --> 01:13:16,720
Speaker 1: hitting the song sage fingers. Anyway, We're happy to have

1405
01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,719
Speaker 1: you behind the glass there, buddy. Anyway, So Preston Smith,

1406
01:13:19,800 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: he does get a deal. And I wasn't gonna say anything,

1407
01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:26,880
Speaker 1: but then Mark laughed, what well? You you started laughing

1408
01:13:26,920 --> 01:13:28,960
Speaker 1: when you heard sausage from Well because it was funny.

1409
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: So I laughed and it was the result. So now

1410
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 1: that has to stay in the show. Preston Smith four year,

1411
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: fifty two and a half million excepsion through uh so

1412
01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:41,760
Speaker 1: this helps the cap situation as well, and he's a

1413
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,439
Speaker 1: he's a big player on their defense. Yeah, all these

1414
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:46,840
Speaker 1: moves are kind of can look be looked at as

1415
01:13:47,000 --> 01:13:50,560
Speaker 1: one big thing. So Preston Smith, you can revisit that

1416
01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:54,639
Speaker 1: deal as soon as next year. It's it's almost funny accounting.

1417
01:13:54,720 --> 01:13:56,640
Speaker 1: How the how the Packers are doing. They're kind of

1418
01:13:56,720 --> 01:13:58,560
Speaker 1: like the New Saints. They can just move all this

1419
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:00,439
Speaker 1: money around and figure it out in the end, and

1420
01:14:00,520 --> 01:14:02,599
Speaker 1: this is one way one way to do that. It's

1421
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,040
Speaker 1: not cheating, it's just, you know, work in the margins.

1422
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,760
Speaker 1: In that way, they had the room to resign deve

1423
01:14:08,800 --> 01:14:12,840
Speaker 1: Andre Campbell. Uh for five years. Fifty million dollars sixteen

1424
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 1: guaranteed for an off ball linebacker is a lot for

1425
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:18,479
Speaker 1: that market. But it's also not a lot because he

1426
01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,840
Speaker 1: was a first team All Pro last year. So good

1427
01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 1: on him for like turning a proven deal into that

1428
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,080
Speaker 1: kind of contract. Good on them for keeping him. And yeah,

1429
01:14:28,280 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 1: as you mentioned cutting Zadarius Smith and Billy Turner, who

1430
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:34,479
Speaker 1: was a starter for them, uh for a while. Uh

1431
01:14:34,720 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 1: at at tackle. Having to cut those guys, Darius made

1432
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,120
Speaker 1: it into my top twenty. He's still not even in

1433
01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,840
Speaker 1: his thirties. He feels like he'd be worth signing for

1434
01:14:42,960 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 1: some team out there. The Ravens are reportedly interested in him. Yeah,

1435
01:14:46,520 --> 01:14:49,040
Speaker 1: the Packerson and Smith because they don't like him as

1436
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:53,040
Speaker 1: a player. He missed all and there was there was

1437
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:57,240
Speaker 1: some stuffing he wanted a contract extension after two great seasons.

1438
01:14:57,320 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 1: They didn't give it to him. He had this back

1439
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:02,560
Speaker 1: injury and there was some is this guy milking the

1440
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,360
Speaker 1: injury doesn't matter if you're the next team, all right.

1441
01:15:05,400 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: One of the more productive pass rushers of the past

1442
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:10,360
Speaker 1: couple of years of son Reddick. He has a new

1443
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,120
Speaker 1: home once again. He goes from the Cardinals to the

1444
01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,160
Speaker 1: Panthers and now to the Eagles on a three year,

1445
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:18,559
Speaker 1: forty five million dollar contract. Mike garre Folo said thirty

1446
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:25,440
Speaker 1: million fully guaranteed at signing, So Reddick um has potentially

1447
01:15:25,479 --> 01:15:28,639
Speaker 1: a long term home here. And the Eagles just upgraded

1448
01:15:28,680 --> 01:15:30,679
Speaker 1: their pass rush. They were second to last and sacks

1449
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:34,680
Speaker 1: last season. So Reddick entering his age season, that's a

1450
01:15:34,800 --> 01:15:38,040
Speaker 1: nice move. Yeah, I mean you got Brandon Graham, He's

1451
01:15:38,120 --> 01:15:40,880
Speaker 1: thirty four years old. This was an obvious position of need,

1452
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:44,040
Speaker 1: and Reddick did the classic you know, one year bet

1453
01:15:44,120 --> 01:15:46,680
Speaker 1: on yourself deal a year ago. It absolutely worked. And

1454
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 1: I do think you know two years in a row

1455
01:15:49,200 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: that you know, he didn't quite the fit with the

1456
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 1: Cardinals and he went on to Carolina. Every time I

1457
01:15:54,040 --> 01:15:56,479
Speaker 1: watched the Panthers game, and I watched on those Sundays

1458
01:15:56,520 --> 01:15:58,479
Speaker 1: when you picked the game, you want to cover my

1459
01:15:58,600 --> 01:16:01,519
Speaker 1: little Matt rule fascination, and um lured me into that

1460
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 1: scenario more often than it should have early on, but

1461
01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: I felt like every game Reddick was doing one or

1462
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:10,800
Speaker 1: two titanic things to to change the environment. And like,

1463
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:13,679
Speaker 1: I really think he's incredibly disruptive and a good signing

1464
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:15,280
Speaker 1: for the Eagles, and he's from that part of town.

1465
01:16:15,400 --> 01:16:17,479
Speaker 1: He's so fast they I mean, they have a type

1466
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:22,120
Speaker 1: they like shorter ends who can get up the field

1467
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:25,720
Speaker 1: and rush the passer and not really known for their

1468
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:29,960
Speaker 1: run defense. He is a lot like Brandon Graham and

1469
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,640
Speaker 1: Josh Sweat and that's like a fast, ferocious trio of

1470
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: of pass rushers. I'm curious if they'll trade Fletcher Cox,

1471
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,600
Speaker 1: which has been I feel like Fletcher Cox has been

1472
01:16:39,640 --> 01:16:44,400
Speaker 1: brought up in trade whispers a year or so. Speaking

1473
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:48,559
Speaker 1: of the Cardinals, James Conner in Arizona do deal, three year,

1474
01:16:48,680 --> 01:16:53,200
Speaker 1: twenty one million dollar contract, thirteen and a half is guaranteed.

1475
01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:57,400
Speaker 1: Connor had a really strong first season with Arizona. I

1476
01:16:57,439 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 1: feel like he's scored a touchdown every week. In fact,

1477
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:06,000
Speaker 1: he had eighteen touchdowns and there's eighteen week season some time.

1478
01:17:06,240 --> 01:17:07,680
Speaker 1: But you want to average it out over not his

1479
01:17:07,760 --> 01:17:14,479
Speaker 1: games played, but the season is strong. Eighteen Cardinals games touchdowns,

1480
01:17:14,520 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 1: that's one per game. The most surprising thing to me was,

1481
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 1: I think we could move on. We've covered this, you

1482
01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: know how they flipped the switch and like Andrew Siciliano

1483
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:27,400
Speaker 1: was on her air and it's like free agency frenzy.

1484
01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:31,040
Speaker 1: The negotiating period starts now and the first deals to

1485
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:34,120
Speaker 1: come down where James Conner and Chase Edmonds back to back,

1486
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:37,400
Speaker 1: James Connard going to the Cardinals going back, and then

1487
01:17:37,520 --> 01:17:40,800
Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds going to the Dolphins. It just felt like

1488
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 1: a strange place to start, but why not. I guess

1489
01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:46,200
Speaker 1: the Cardinals weren't gonna bring back both. I was surprised

1490
01:17:46,240 --> 01:17:48,759
Speaker 1: they gave thirty million dollars to zach Ertz, including seventeen

1491
01:17:48,800 --> 01:17:51,400
Speaker 1: million guaranteed. He looked almost at the end of the

1492
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 1: line there in Philadelphia, but then was healthier for Arizona.

1493
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,800
Speaker 1: Looked pretty good, and they spend a lot of money

1494
01:17:57,880 --> 01:18:00,240
Speaker 1: to bring him back. He gave it a lot. Tight

1495
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:01,880
Speaker 1: ends are costing a lot in this market that will

1496
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,160
Speaker 1: distally got twenty four over three. I mean earths was

1497
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 1: viewed as broken down a couple of years ago, he

1498
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: was I never yeah, I never bought into that. Always

1499
01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,639
Speaker 1: seems strange that that's how he's viewed. He did juice

1500
01:18:12,680 --> 01:18:15,360
Speaker 1: their offense, but also that corresponded with the collapse of

1501
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,280
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, so it was it was kind of veiled

1502
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh, but he should help if Kyler

1503
01:18:20,000 --> 01:18:21,920
Speaker 1: Murray is the quarterback we had, like no DeAndre Hopkins

1504
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: in there for exactly maybe all this money is being

1505
01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,920
Speaker 1: spent because Kyler Murray is going to be shipped elsewhere.

1506
01:18:26,960 --> 01:18:30,040
Speaker 1: I like the Edmunds and with the Dolphins moved by

1507
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,719
Speaker 1: the way, I'm sticking with that. Like I I've always

1508
01:18:32,720 --> 01:18:35,960
Speaker 1: liked Tways Edmunds. You need you need multiple running backs.

1509
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:37,640
Speaker 1: He can do a lot. He can do it for

1510
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:39,840
Speaker 1: a hundred and fifty hundred and seventy five touches. I

1511
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,280
Speaker 1: like the idea of him and Mike McDaniels system, almost

1512
01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:45,800
Speaker 1: like what they thought Jerick McKinnon was gonna be way

1513
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 1: back in the day when they gave him money. Hopefully

1514
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 1: Edmonds is healthier. I think they've had a nice day.

1515
01:18:49,439 --> 01:18:53,800
Speaker 1: They brought Emmanuel Ogma back. They signed Teddy Bridgewater to

1516
01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: his hometown of Miami to be the backup. He's a

1517
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,680
Speaker 1: Miami kid. He'd come up again. We couldn't get to

1518
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:06,000
Speaker 1: saying we're doing Dolphins, but I've got got way less money. Um,

1519
01:19:06,160 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: then I bet Chandler Jones gonna get certainly than Harold

1520
01:19:08,680 --> 01:19:11,759
Speaker 1: Landry got. And uh, I think it was a nice value.

1521
01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:14,000
Speaker 1: All their signings make make sense to me, and they

1522
01:19:14,040 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: haven't broken that for the last two seasons. Has been

1523
01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 1: his productive as anyone out there. It's perfect fit for them,

1524
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 1: all right. It's speaking of bad books, cooking the books

1525
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: in a negative way. The Falcons kind of backed themselves

1526
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:29,519
Speaker 1: into a corner with Matt Ryan. Uh So they are

1527
01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 1: restructuring the veteran quarterbacks contract. He was gonna have a

1528
01:19:33,680 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 1: forty eight million dollar cap hit in two years left

1529
01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 1: on the deal, so they were moved some money around

1530
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:43,320
Speaker 1: to give them some more agency in free agency. So

1531
01:19:43,600 --> 01:19:49,240
Speaker 1: that's a thing also, And Matt Ryan comments, I mean

1532
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 1: their cap situation has been a disaster for so long.

1533
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:55,560
Speaker 1: Like I I find this just made me laugh. The

1534
01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,439
Speaker 1: only notable thing is like he's go I think this

1535
01:19:58,560 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 1: guarantees he's going to be the Akins quarterback. So I

1536
01:20:01,200 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: just I think that's notable that I think we can

1537
01:20:04,200 --> 01:20:06,960
Speaker 1: basically put aside that trade to any trade time unless

1538
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:10,560
Speaker 1: does that restructure make him easier to move in a

1539
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:16,280
Speaker 1: trade in the future, But not. I think Max Crosby

1540
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:20,000
Speaker 1: got paid good for him four year, million dollar contract

1541
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 1: through fifty three million guarantee. This is top of the

1542
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: market type stuff for a guy that went from a

1543
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:29,639
Speaker 1: former fourth round pick who battled some off the field

1544
01:20:30,360 --> 01:20:33,200
Speaker 1: demons two years of sobriety. He is now one of

1545
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 1: the highest paid defenders in football. Good for Max crosby

1546
01:20:36,760 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 1: comeback story. It's a great it's a great story. I mean,

1547
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:42,400
Speaker 1: he is the heart beating heart of their defense. I

1548
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: am kind of waiting to see does anything else happen

1549
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:47,559
Speaker 1: with Derek Carr in an extension this offseason? I mean,

1550
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:50,280
Speaker 1: are they just go into next year hanging out? I

1551
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:52,439
Speaker 1: think your Browns are you know, could have a say

1552
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:57,679
Speaker 1: in that. It goes to show sign these guys last

1553
01:20:57,720 --> 01:21:02,080
Speaker 1: week Like this Max Crosby deal on paper has the

1554
01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: potential to be the best team friendly value of any

1555
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:07,439
Speaker 1: of these out there. I mean, this dude's one of

1556
01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,600
Speaker 1: the best defensive players in the league and they have

1557
01:21:10,720 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 1: him locked up for like the next five years at

1558
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: a very reasonable cost. And you know, you don't blame

1559
01:21:16,040 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 1: him not wanting to to play it out here, but

1560
01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:21,960
Speaker 1: I feel like if I was his his agent, he

1561
01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:24,439
Speaker 1: would be more expensive today than he was five days ago.

1562
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: What if Mark? The game plan for Andrew Berry and

1563
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: the Browns this whole time is let's recreate the two

1564
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:37,280
Speaker 1: thousand seventeen Oakland Raiders. Let's get Derek Carr, Let's get

1565
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:43,000
Speaker 1: a Mary Cooper. Was Richie incognito on that team? He's

1566
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:46,680
Speaker 1: available again? Yes, I mean he was, He's around. I

1567
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: don't like the plan at all. What would what would

1568
01:21:49,280 --> 01:21:52,080
Speaker 1: be Whose vision would that be? Let's get Marquette King

1569
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:56,840
Speaker 1: to punt? Oh yeah, please remember like market King kept

1570
01:21:56,880 --> 01:22:00,479
Speaker 1: sending out those tweets that like the NFL was didn't

1571
01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,400
Speaker 1: didn't like his personality or whatever, and they were blackballing

1572
01:22:03,479 --> 01:22:07,360
Speaker 1: him where Ever, since that, I that I'll leave on

1573
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:12,800
Speaker 1: Puri long form, it's just been a curse. That's our editor, Ali.

1574
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 1: He does. He did one front facing uh work for

1575
01:22:16,640 --> 01:22:19,240
Speaker 1: dot com trying to him. It was great, but it

1576
01:22:19,360 --> 01:22:22,960
Speaker 1: was like the opposite of the Flashpoint Focus series. It

1577
01:22:23,040 --> 01:22:27,840
Speaker 1: was exactly what never listened to an episode of the show.

1578
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:31,640
Speaker 1: So we're in the clear there. Uh, Michael Gallop. He

1579
01:22:31,840 --> 01:22:34,759
Speaker 1: gets paid by the Cowboys. So they yes, the Cowboys

1580
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 1: Santa Marii Cooper to the Browns and they say, our

1581
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 1: guy that we want a team with Ceedee Lamb is

1582
01:22:41,479 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup. Five years, sixty two and a half million

1583
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:47,240
Speaker 1: dollar deal. Good money for a dude that towards a

1584
01:22:47,360 --> 01:22:51,080
Speaker 1: c L in January. Uh so Gallup is the future

1585
01:22:51,240 --> 01:22:57,280
Speaker 1: with Lamb and the Cowboys moved forward. Oh they also

1586
01:22:57,680 --> 01:23:00,840
Speaker 1: cut Blake Darwin. Uh injury a nation had that hip

1587
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:03,920
Speaker 1: thing that the tight end that was more serious than

1588
01:23:03,960 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: initially thought. So they tagged Dalton, Schultz and Jarwin. So

1589
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:12,920
Speaker 1: this Gallop deal was interesting. Again, this happened so often

1590
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 1: when when you actually got the contract breakdown, and in

1591
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 1: his happened a couple of days ago or at least

1592
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,760
Speaker 1: twenty four hours ago that we have it. It never

1593
01:23:20,920 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: was sixty two million apparently, and it looks like really

1594
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,519
Speaker 1: team for the team friendly. I think the Cowboys did

1595
01:23:27,640 --> 01:23:30,720
Speaker 1: a smart dealer a ten million dollar signing bonus. He

1596
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,240
Speaker 1: gets about twenty three million in the first two years

1597
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:34,920
Speaker 1: of the deal, so two for twenty three. I know

1598
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:36,920
Speaker 1: he's coming off an injury and then after that, the

1599
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:40,679
Speaker 1: numbers are like comically low, whereas if he's a really

1600
01:23:40,720 --> 01:23:44,240
Speaker 1: good receiver, he's gonna be itching to get a pay

1601
01:23:44,360 --> 01:23:46,800
Speaker 1: bump because he's getting paid under ten million dollars a

1602
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: year for the next three years. For a guy, I

1603
01:23:49,280 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 1: definitely would take over Christian Kirk. Not to keep using

1604
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:53,640
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk as the guy, but that I think this

1605
01:23:53,760 --> 01:23:55,360
Speaker 1: is this was a nice bit of business and it

1606
01:23:55,439 --> 01:23:59,479
Speaker 1: made sense for significantly less than keeping Cooper would have been.

1607
01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 1: And that that makes sense, which I think is what

1608
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,719
Speaker 1: they wanted to do. They sounded like they had cooled

1609
01:24:03,760 --> 01:24:07,360
Speaker 1: on Cooper so and it sounds like DeMarcus Lawrence isn't

1610
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:10,800
Speaker 1: gonna end up staying with the Cowboys, so even though

1611
01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,280
Speaker 1: they've come in with a lot of problems and I

1612
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:14,760
Speaker 1: want to see how this all shakes out. If I

1613
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: was a Cowboys fan, I feel like, so far, so good,

1614
01:24:18,680 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 1: I haven't and nothing would be bothering me too much

1615
01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: about their offseason. You could say, because he is coming

1616
01:24:23,800 --> 01:24:26,040
Speaker 1: up a lot, but he is his contract is kind

1617
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:30,879
Speaker 1: of you could say, we're dealing with a flashpoint colon

1618
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk scenario. On day one of the legal tamporary period.

1619
01:24:34,439 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 1: I don't think so, he's just that guy that got

1620
01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 1: like jillion too much per year. But what is that

1621
01:24:41,240 --> 01:24:49,560
Speaker 1: really affecting my life? Flashpoint is that within a Fortnite

1622
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:52,880
Speaker 1: was under an extreme darress. This player has just been

1623
01:24:52,920 --> 01:24:55,760
Speaker 1: locked up Christian Kirk into a contract that we're good.

1624
01:24:56,120 --> 01:24:57,960
Speaker 1: You know what remind you of is like last year

1625
01:24:58,080 --> 01:25:02,560
Speaker 1: because extreme directs last year, because you know, maybe the

1626
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:05,800
Speaker 1: the idea is like your all these guys are getting

1627
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:08,120
Speaker 1: paid more than their value or whatever. Like compare the

1628
01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,240
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk contract to Corey Davis, for instance. Corey Davis

1629
01:25:11,400 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: is a real number two. I think he's got his issue,

1630
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:17,640
Speaker 1: Like he's not the perfect player, he's not always the

1631
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,160
Speaker 1: most durable player, but like he is a real number two.

1632
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,400
Speaker 1: And you look at his contract compared to Kirk's. It's

1633
01:25:23,439 --> 01:25:26,760
Speaker 1: a steal so that the price tag, the price tag

1634
01:25:26,840 --> 01:25:29,200
Speaker 1: went up a lot this year because of the cap.

1635
01:25:29,240 --> 01:25:31,040
Speaker 1: All right, let's take one more break and then we're

1636
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:35,320
Speaker 1: gonna finish out the show. All Right, we're back. It

1637
01:25:35,520 --> 01:25:38,400
Speaker 1: is time to hit the rest of the news here

1638
01:25:38,439 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 1: as we finish up day one of the legal tampering period,

1639
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:46,559
Speaker 1: the Bengals, the reigning a f C champions. Busy, busy, busy. Okay,

1640
01:25:46,600 --> 01:25:50,360
Speaker 1: so we'll start defensive line. Uh. They re signed b J.

1641
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: Hill to a three year, thirty million dollar contracts, so

1642
01:25:53,640 --> 01:25:57,040
Speaker 1: they are fortifying that line and making sure a solid

1643
01:25:57,120 --> 01:25:59,960
Speaker 1: player doesn't get away. Now, that offensive line, that's where

1644
01:26:00,360 --> 01:26:03,679
Speaker 1: we talked about it with our new friend Duke Tobin

1645
01:26:04,479 --> 01:26:07,120
Speaker 1: at the combine said come on, dude, we gotta fix

1646
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,200
Speaker 1: this offensive line. And he's like, oh, we like our

1647
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:12,000
Speaker 1: offensive line. No, you don't like your offensive line because

1648
01:26:12,040 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 1: you just went out and signed Ted Carris and also

1649
01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:19,040
Speaker 1: Alex Cappa to a multi year deals. So you kind

1650
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:21,760
Speaker 1: of read made the interior of your offensive line handing

1651
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:23,800
Speaker 1: out a lot of money. Now, Greggy, going back to

1652
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,640
Speaker 1: the tweet, it was the one. It was the infamous one.

1653
01:26:26,680 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 1: Now at this point where I said, this guy gets

1654
01:26:28,360 --> 01:26:31,160
Speaker 1: it with the arrow up, but I thought, oh, actually,

1655
01:26:31,200 --> 01:26:33,360
Speaker 1: it wasn't even that. It was the point that someone

1656
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:34,920
Speaker 1: else threw to me when I said, I like the

1657
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 1: Jets cards signing like, Greg doesn't like this these signings,

1658
01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 1: so you shouldn't like it. Greg's moment. It's your time

1659
01:26:42,040 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 1: to shine. But tell us why this tells us more

1660
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:47,479
Speaker 1: about Cincinnati than perhaps they'd like you to know because well,

1661
01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:50,400
Speaker 1: because Zach Taylor in their offensive coaching staff is the

1662
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,080
Speaker 1: main reason their offensive line has been poor the last

1663
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:56,799
Speaker 1: three years. I believe you should be able to develop

1664
01:26:57,439 --> 01:27:00,320
Speaker 1: an average offensive line with the resources that they put

1665
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,120
Speaker 1: in there between money and draft picks, and they haven't.

1666
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:05,600
Speaker 1: They've kind of been a nightmare, and that's coaching and

1667
01:27:05,720 --> 01:27:08,080
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor has shown no ability to fix that. So

1668
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,439
Speaker 1: now you're signing these guys and the carrass steel isn't

1669
01:27:11,479 --> 01:27:14,800
Speaker 1: that expensive. The Alex Cappa deal is certainly a lot more.

1670
01:27:15,400 --> 01:27:19,000
Speaker 1: Um you're signing guys who are the other teams is

1671
01:27:20,600 --> 01:27:22,720
Speaker 1: you know, forgotten piece that they don't really need to keep.

1672
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:25,200
Speaker 1: Carriss has been freely available the last couple of years

1673
01:27:25,240 --> 01:27:27,599
Speaker 1: from the Patriots and the Dolphins as just like kind

1674
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,599
Speaker 1: of a leftover six or seventh offensive lineman and when

1675
01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: the when the Patriots put him in, he's he's good

1676
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:36,200
Speaker 1: because they're they're good coaching staff. Alex Cappa at one

1677
01:27:36,200 --> 01:27:38,600
Speaker 1: point was certainly the weakest member of the Bucks is

1678
01:27:38,760 --> 01:27:41,200
Speaker 1: offensive line. But they have a great offensive line. They're

1679
01:27:41,200 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: good at developing. It was like a mid round pick.

1680
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,080
Speaker 1: They were never gonna pay this money to them. But

1681
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:46,760
Speaker 1: for the Bengals, it's like you kind of have to

1682
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: because you feel like you don't actually know how to

1683
01:27:50,200 --> 01:27:52,880
Speaker 1: coach up the team. Well like so so at least

1684
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 1: at least they acknowledge that they're they're not going to

1685
01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:58,600
Speaker 1: tell us that. And we I don't think that the

1686
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: offensive line coaching steps walking around the building thinking like

1687
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: we're frauds. We don't actually know what we're doing. At

1688
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:05,360
Speaker 1: some point someone's going to figure that out. But the

1689
01:28:05,400 --> 01:28:09,240
Speaker 1: results suggest that And like Achem, identity was like a

1690
01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: city villain by the end of last season and guards

1691
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,840
Speaker 1: so they might not be done either. Well, they had

1692
01:28:13,880 --> 01:28:16,240
Speaker 1: to address it. And Alex Cappa the one thing, like,

1693
01:28:16,400 --> 01:28:19,439
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know Alex Cappa personally, but on

1694
01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:21,640
Speaker 1: Twitter over and over people were saying, this dude is

1695
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,880
Speaker 1: like a white knuckle total badass, and maybe that helps

1696
01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:28,080
Speaker 1: Cincinnati because whether these work or not, you have to

1697
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,040
Speaker 1: show Joe Burrow um because he's certainly not in the

1698
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:34,799
Speaker 1: category of discontent quarterback. But it is important this offseason

1699
01:28:34,840 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: that they pour more resistant, more resources into the line,

1700
01:28:37,920 --> 01:28:39,880
Speaker 1: no matter what happened in the past, because that was

1701
01:28:39,920 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 1: a huge narrative for them. A year ago. Right, They're

1702
01:28:42,000 --> 01:28:45,560
Speaker 1: they're probably gonna sign more players in free agency on

1703
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,519
Speaker 1: the offensive line or at least the draft. I like

1704
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:49,720
Speaker 1: the b J. Hill move though, Trust the guy that

1705
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,960
Speaker 1: you see on your team that made a huge impact.

1706
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:53,960
Speaker 1: They traded for him and that was a steal from

1707
01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:57,439
Speaker 1: the Giants and he was great. Spice Ract was texting

1708
01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 1: me they gotta keep b J. Hill this morning, and

1709
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:03,400
Speaker 1: minutes later b J Hill is back. So the Spice

1710
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: Rack and Larry Ogunjobi ends up going to the Bears

1711
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 1: for like way more money and b J. Hill was

1712
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:13,799
Speaker 1: certainly better than Larry Oganjobi was for the Bengals. Spice

1713
01:29:13,880 --> 01:29:16,839
Speaker 1: Rack he had not asked, but demanded to be involved

1714
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,640
Speaker 1: with our Super Bowl program and run up. Did he

1715
01:29:19,760 --> 01:29:22,840
Speaker 1: ever circle back with his disappointment? He didn't, but I

1716
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:25,680
Speaker 1: brought it up. Uh what I remembered a couple of

1717
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:30,720
Speaker 1: weeks later, and um he uh he took seems like

1718
01:29:30,800 --> 01:29:33,560
Speaker 1: he took it in stride. I think he was disappointed

1719
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:37,120
Speaker 1: in the moment um but understood. And uh, I think

1720
01:29:37,280 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 1: I think he would love to be on the show

1721
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,599
Speaker 1: in the future. What role was he we were live

1722
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 1: on set? Um, I would have loved to have was

1723
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 1: we just forgot Dan? Yeah. Dan immediately texted back basically

1724
01:29:49,439 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 1: like you, Greg. He said that that you spice Rack

1725
01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:56,200
Speaker 1: and I did not. I did not, but I will

1726
01:29:56,240 --> 01:29:59,759
Speaker 1: say that in general was spice rack. Greg. You're largely

1727
01:29:59,800 --> 01:30:02,360
Speaker 1: bull approve, so I'm assuming he just thinks I did

1728
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 1: it to him. But since it was a text to

1729
01:30:04,840 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: you largely you could have made it happen. What do

1730
01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:09,400
Speaker 1: you mean he was to our whole group and you

1731
01:30:09,479 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: immediately responded like nah response and and like you guys,

1732
01:30:18,240 --> 01:30:20,679
Speaker 1: I bet it probably wasn't for like we saw the text,

1733
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,760
Speaker 1: and then you get into the super Bowl week, and

1734
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:27,679
Speaker 1: if I had remembered, I would have I would circle

1735
01:30:27,760 --> 01:30:30,280
Speaker 1: back and and maybe pushed for it. But I just

1736
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:35,120
Speaker 1: forgot about it. We'll have him during draft season, spicy

1737
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:40,360
Speaker 1: draft coverage. I demand that. I think that was where

1738
01:30:40,760 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 1: this conversation came back up, was like, we gotta have

1739
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 1: you on because he had some college takes. That's good,

1740
01:30:46,760 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 1: all right, let's move on. I mean, he was a

1741
01:30:48,760 --> 01:30:51,600
Speaker 1: lifelong Bengals fan and continues to be one, so I

1742
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: understand the motivation. Super Bowl week you could have spoke

1743
01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:56,519
Speaker 1: up to you don't even remember seeing the text. So

1744
01:30:56,680 --> 01:30:58,439
Speaker 1: it's like everything is a haze. I couldn't tell you

1745
01:30:58,479 --> 01:31:01,680
Speaker 1: what happening yesterday at two PMS, though I totally I

1746
01:31:01,800 --> 01:31:04,800
Speaker 1: absolved myself of any responsibility. Here it is. Here's the

1747
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:08,080
Speaker 1: text exchange. This is after the a f C Championship victory,

1748
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:11,920
Speaker 1: demanding thirty minutes segment on Bengals slashed West between now

1749
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: and Super Bowl fifty six or delete my contact info.

1750
01:31:15,640 --> 01:31:20,479
Speaker 1: This was sent to Mark, Greg, myself and Erica. Then

1751
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:22,720
Speaker 1: he follows up with the gauntlet has been thrown to

1752
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,120
Speaker 1: quote Norman Dale, I love you guys. And then one

1753
01:31:26,160 --> 01:31:28,599
Speaker 1: minute later I replied, we can promise you the Bengals

1754
01:31:28,640 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 1: will get extensive coverage across the next two weeks. Yeah

1755
01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:35,800
Speaker 1: that's a nah, that's a but that's not that's not

1756
01:31:35,840 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: an f you either. I think it is an excellent

1757
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,840
Speaker 1: idea spice rack. And then he wrote delete me. Been real.

1758
01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 1: He read it. He read it as I would. I mean,

1759
01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,519
Speaker 1: let's be real, he just asked for a spot on

1760
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 1: the show, and you're like, full Pollyanna, it's spicies world.

1761
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:57,840
Speaker 1: We're just living in it now. That's not talking under

1762
01:31:57,880 --> 01:32:00,200
Speaker 1: a bit. And then this, I wrote, the spice rack

1763
01:32:00,320 --> 01:32:05,320
Speaker 1: is fully stocked. Mark doesn't. Oh finally, Mark, just quote Spicy.

1764
01:32:05,439 --> 01:32:10,320
Speaker 1: You say you just say Spicy. I'm acknowledging his existence.

1765
01:32:12,439 --> 01:32:17,280
Speaker 1: He's always Switzerland. If I were to say, I demand

1766
01:32:17,360 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: Spice Rack comes on the show, what had happened? Absolutely

1767
01:32:19,800 --> 01:32:21,720
Speaker 1: no one would care at all. So what do you

1768
01:32:21,760 --> 01:32:23,360
Speaker 1: want me to tell you? I think he will be

1769
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:26,080
Speaker 1: part of the coverage down the road, have a nice time.

1770
01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,320
Speaker 1: Would you like him to be on the show in

1771
01:32:28,360 --> 01:32:31,680
Speaker 1: the near future? Next episode? Then it will happen. There

1772
01:32:31,760 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: you go. Well see that that? Then he got does

1773
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:38,200
Speaker 1: work out the not doing any work around it? All right,

1774
01:32:38,280 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 1: there you go. The Jets also do some business on

1775
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,280
Speaker 1: their interior line. Lake and Tomlinson, formerly of the Niners,

1776
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:50,519
Speaker 1: gets three years and forty million, seven million guaranteed, so

1777
01:32:50,720 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 1: that fills a void on their line. The Jets and

1778
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,800
Speaker 1: offensive line is very interesting because George Fan. That turned

1779
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: out to be a really good move, getting Fan, who

1780
01:32:59,600 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 1: was solid at left tackle last year. Elijah Verite Tucker

1781
01:33:03,600 --> 01:33:06,559
Speaker 1: was their guard they moved up to draft last year.

1782
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:09,080
Speaker 1: They're very happy with him and where his development is at.

1783
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:12,839
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern is fine as center. Now you have Laken Tomlinson,

1784
01:33:12,920 --> 01:33:15,799
Speaker 1: who is a scheme match and a guy that thrives

1785
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,080
Speaker 1: and run blockings. That's a nice fit for them there,

1786
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:21,439
Speaker 1: and then there's McKay Beckton. That's the that's the whole thing, Like,

1787
01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:25,879
Speaker 1: what is Beckton's deal? Is McKay Beckton going to realize

1788
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 1: his potential and be healthy next year or is this

1789
01:33:28,320 --> 01:33:30,479
Speaker 1: a guy that's already fading from the team's plans. Will

1790
01:33:30,560 --> 01:33:33,120
Speaker 1: know after the first round of the draft in April,

1791
01:33:33,240 --> 01:33:37,519
Speaker 1: because if they use a premium draft pick, uh, it's

1792
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,320
Speaker 1: because they think Beckton is a washout or is heading

1793
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:42,880
Speaker 1: that way. So keep an eye on that situation. I

1794
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,879
Speaker 1: love that the coaching staff they already know Laken Tomlinson.

1795
01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,519
Speaker 1: He hasn't missed a start in like half a decade.

1796
01:33:48,600 --> 01:33:50,360
Speaker 1: I mean he he was a mess for the Lions

1797
01:33:50,400 --> 01:33:52,400
Speaker 1: when he got drafted. But it's a good signing for

1798
01:33:52,439 --> 01:33:54,160
Speaker 1: the Jets. It's another team that's poured a lot of

1799
01:33:54,240 --> 01:33:57,120
Speaker 1: resources in free agency into the old line. It's not

1800
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,040
Speaker 1: always worked, but they're getting closer and that need to

1801
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:01,439
Speaker 1: be the case for zech. How do you think their

1802
01:34:01,479 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 1: line was last year? It was not bad. It was

1803
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: it was It wasn't great, It wasn't great, but it

1804
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 1: wasn't they needed to get better? Um, this is a

1805
01:34:08,920 --> 01:34:12,720
Speaker 1: big area need um at guard. So you get you

1806
01:34:12,920 --> 01:34:16,240
Speaker 1: take care of that, and yeah, you need you really

1807
01:34:16,280 --> 01:34:18,559
Speaker 1: need Beckton to step up. And if they don't think

1808
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:20,200
Speaker 1: he can, if they don't think he has what it

1809
01:34:20,240 --> 01:34:22,439
Speaker 1: takes to do that, they have to replace him. And

1810
01:34:22,560 --> 01:34:25,160
Speaker 1: that's a waste of resources when you have so many

1811
01:34:25,160 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 1: holes on you. Is there a spicy race between Mike

1812
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 1: Lafleur and Mike McDaniel to prove which one of these

1813
01:34:32,120 --> 01:34:36,880
Speaker 1: can actually run Shanahan's offense with more execution and precision. Well,

1814
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:39,599
Speaker 1: there there might be a race for the same players.

1815
01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:42,960
Speaker 1: I think this happened with the Belichick disciples and may

1816
01:34:43,040 --> 01:34:45,640
Speaker 1: explain why Lake and Thomason got so much money. Like

1817
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:47,760
Speaker 1: we don't we don't know if if the Dolphins were

1818
01:34:47,800 --> 01:34:49,640
Speaker 1: in on it, but we know multiple teams were to

1819
01:34:49,720 --> 01:34:52,240
Speaker 1: get it that to get it that high. That This

1820
01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 1: is where the person who tweeted at you saying, like

1821
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,840
Speaker 1: trying to make a point, you know need needs more

1822
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:00,479
Speaker 1: subtlety and it's hard to explain it all in the

1823
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:04,280
Speaker 1: characters are to eighty on Twitter. In a perfect world,

1824
01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:06,840
Speaker 1: you want to be the forty Niners who are the

1825
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:11,160
Speaker 1: car wash who takes lacoln Thomlinson for nothing when the

1826
01:35:11,320 --> 01:35:13,559
Speaker 1: entire league could have had him for like a late

1827
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 1: round pick swap and turn him into a forty million

1828
01:35:16,439 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: dollar player and get him in his prime. They do

1829
01:35:19,000 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 1: that on the defensive line too, that would be ideal

1830
01:35:21,520 --> 01:35:25,800
Speaker 1: that it's it's hard to do that. Uh, hopefully Lincoln Thomlinson,

1831
01:35:26,680 --> 01:35:28,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's as bulletproof as they think he is.

1832
01:35:28,520 --> 01:35:30,280
Speaker 1: He seems like, I mean, he's been great as a

1833
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,800
Speaker 1: missed the start, is a great run blocker. But you're

1834
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:35,960
Speaker 1: definitely paying for it. Uh, you're definitely paying for that.

1835
01:35:36,120 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: You haven't been able to develop a guard at the

1836
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: last couple. Douglas under pressure. He is under pressure. The

1837
01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:44,680
Speaker 1: last two years they've they've built rebuilt the offensive line

1838
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:47,200
Speaker 1: using the draft and free agency. They're trying to get

1839
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 1: that thing figured out. We'll see. They also resigned Braxton Barrios,

1840
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 1: which I really liked that move because he broke out

1841
01:35:52,280 --> 01:35:55,280
Speaker 1: last year. It was really good slot guy, gadget guy,

1842
01:35:55,560 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: a special team's ace. Um develop you guys, keep him

1843
01:35:59,600 --> 01:36:00,920
Speaker 1: in the bill we and see if they can take

1844
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:07,320
Speaker 1: the next step. Let's see Jason Kelsey back with the Eagles. Uh, Dolphins,

1845
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:09,720
Speaker 1: bring back? How about this, let's hit eight o'clock to light.

1846
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:13,280
Speaker 1: We've run out we Uh there was an updated one

1847
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: doing a clock to light. Oh, we've got some developing

1848
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:20,080
Speaker 1: news alright, A couple of them. Uh. Deshaun Watson is

1849
01:36:20,160 --> 01:36:22,560
Speaker 1: meeting on Monday night with the scenes and Panthers. I

1850
01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:24,120
Speaker 1: just thought you good to get that into the show

1851
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:27,800
Speaker 1: that we know the meetings are happening, so that could move. Also,

1852
01:36:27,880 --> 01:36:31,960
Speaker 1: Evan Ingram is joining the Jaguars parade on a one year,

1853
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 1: fully guaranteed, nine million dollar contract, a prove it deal,

1854
01:36:37,680 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: but a perfect deal. While wile he gets some nice

1855
01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:45,040
Speaker 1: scratch but another weapon for Lawrence that was not control

1856
01:36:45,160 --> 01:36:47,519
Speaker 1: contract for the Jaguar. Now, I like, I like these moves.

1857
01:36:47,600 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 1: Is he the new Is he the new Jared Cook?

1858
01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,800
Speaker 1: Like a tools the guy that makes big plays every

1859
01:36:51,840 --> 01:36:53,160
Speaker 1: once in a while, but just kind of drives you

1860
01:36:53,240 --> 01:36:57,960
Speaker 1: crazy for never reaching his full potential. I think that's

1861
01:36:57,960 --> 01:36:59,920
Speaker 1: a good compared at this point he would he want

1862
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:03,160
Speaker 1: to be Cook. He hasn't been as reliable as at

1863
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:06,040
Speaker 1: least Cook is, Like, you know, he's six hundred yards

1864
01:37:06,320 --> 01:37:09,719
Speaker 1: every single season. Ingram, I feel like is never healthy.

1865
01:37:09,760 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: If he was healthy, I think it'd be great. All right,

1866
01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:16,799
Speaker 1: let's hit at eight o'clock to light. No Sterling Shepherd

1867
01:37:17,200 --> 01:37:21,080
Speaker 1: returns to the Giants, so he sticks in house. The

1868
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:25,440
Speaker 1: bill signed Roger Sappole, re signed Mitch Morris and Isaiah mackenzie.

1869
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,759
Speaker 1: Devin McCartney is back with the Patriots. Any thoughts on those, gentlemen.

1870
01:37:30,120 --> 01:37:33,360
Speaker 1: Sterling Shepherd is the longest tenured Giant, how weird is

1871
01:37:33,840 --> 01:37:36,400
Speaker 1: very weird like Isaiah mackenzie. I think Cold Beasley is

1872
01:37:36,520 --> 01:37:39,479
Speaker 1: out of town. They swapped Darryl Williams for Sapple. By

1873
01:37:39,479 --> 01:37:41,240
Speaker 1: the way, they got rid of their starter in Buffalo,

1874
01:37:41,360 --> 01:37:45,320
Speaker 1: darry Williams, which is interesting. Signed Sappoles. So it looks

1875
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,120
Speaker 1: like a change in the guard for the Ramps because

1876
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:50,360
Speaker 1: Joe no Boom gets a nice contract to stick with

1877
01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:54,920
Speaker 1: the Rams. That means retirement seems to be imminent. Forward

1878
01:37:55,000 --> 01:38:00,240
Speaker 1: Andrew Witworth Mark Seahawks have a very expensive safety room.

1879
01:38:00,560 --> 01:38:05,639
Speaker 1: In addition to Jamal Diggs squadre Diggs gets the bag.

1880
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:10,519
Speaker 1: He gets resigned, also just as resigned Jones who Sydney Jones,

1881
01:38:10,560 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: Sydney Jones and will dis Lee as well. Utods beef

1882
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:20,000
Speaker 1: it is very Pete Carroll to spend like an incredible

1883
01:38:20,000 --> 01:38:23,120
Speaker 1: amount of money on two safeties in the year two

1884
01:38:23,240 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: Titans bring back Ben Jones and the Lions resigned Tim

1885
01:38:25,920 --> 01:38:30,680
Speaker 1: Boyle and Tracy Walker. That was the day. That was

1886
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:34,799
Speaker 1: at least through five seven p m. Eastern on Monday.

1887
01:38:35,320 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 1: Any closing thoughts on day one, Mark, I do not

1888
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:43,920
Speaker 1: There's going to be a cloud of smoke and Mark

1889
01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 1: in his car in about thirty seven seconds. That's my prediction. No,

1890
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:48,760
Speaker 1: I think we did a good job. I think we'll

1891
01:38:48,800 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: be posting every day this week. The the report from

1892
01:38:52,840 --> 01:38:56,280
Speaker 1: I guess my final thought would be one report from

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Speaker 1: the New York Post that said that the State of

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Speaker 1: New York in in Erie County have agreed to pay

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Speaker 1: a billion dollars towards the new Bills stadium. The Bills

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Speaker 1: aren't going anywhere. Yeah, that's good. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: billionaires and really need um government to be spending a

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Speaker 1: billion dollars for next week. Also that that could have

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Speaker 1: let our show tomorrow the Joe Buck bombshell. We can

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Speaker 1: save that for me. Yeah, but good for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: What's up? Reggie Wayne will be the new wide receivers

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Speaker 1: coach for the cline. Good for Reggie former colleague here,

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Speaker 1: I've never had a conversation with him when he would

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Speaker 1: he if he saw us, um just walking down the street,

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Speaker 1: would he refer to us as former colleagues? I don't

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Speaker 1: think I wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't Ugsu would refer to

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Speaker 1: Greg that way, like talking about myself. I don't think

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Speaker 1: I ever spoke with the man or saw the man

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Speaker 1: even maybe so former story last week, So maybe some

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Speaker 1: legendary wide receivers of the odds you have a connection

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Speaker 1: with him, right and that, and Hey, I'm gonna miss

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Speaker 1: work with you, buddy, but this is a great opportunity

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Speaker 1: for me. Like absolutely read your royalty up there in Indy.

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Speaker 1: So good luck to you. Thanks Greg, How the kids?

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Speaker 1: How's the wife? Awesome? Bro? How's yours? Amazing? We're so blessed. Yeah, same, same.

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Speaker 1: Remember remember that story you told about you and Ed

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Speaker 1: read uh it's in college with a snake and everything?

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Speaker 1: That was great? All right, all right? Anything else? Thanks

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Speaker 1: everybody behind the glass. You know, because you could be

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Speaker 1: on an island paradise vacation right now, and yet you

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Speaker 1: choose to be at the office during the week. Of

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Speaker 1: the year. It's very honorable, so then we respect you

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Speaker 1: for it. All right, we'll be back Tuesday, so make

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Speaker 1: sure you are here because there's so much more that

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Speaker 1: will happen between literally six huge things will happen in

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Speaker 1: ten minutes and we'll be mad, but then we'll talk

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Speaker 1: about it on tomorrow show, so be there for that.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening, Happy New Year, Heed the call, S

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Speaker 1: S S S S S