Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com
Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football clubs. This is nick Shot
Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys out now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls,
Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola. And here it is. It's officially playoff
Speaker 1: week at the Star in Frisco. We are inside the
Speaker 1: SWBC podcast studio Bill Jones along with Everson Walls and
Speaker 1: Everson You know where Mickey is? Mickey, he is inside
Speaker 1: the SWC podcast playoffs studio. Oh, he's in the playoffs studio.
Speaker 1: So we're just in the regular seasons. We're the regular
Speaker 1: season studio. He is in the satellite center monitoring what
Speaker 1: is going on on the practice field also in the
Speaker 1: Bay Area with the San Francisco forty nine ers. And
Speaker 1: now let's toss it to our chief meteorologist, Mickey Spagnola
Speaker 1: if they playoff podcast studio for the latest update. Mello, Mickey, definitely.
Speaker 1: You know, I think I'm in a secret location watching practice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I saw him outside. Man, it looked good out there.
Speaker 1: I saw the guys out there practice in the day.
Speaker 1: The way Mickey is looking down yeah, but they moved
Speaker 1: in the way. Mickey is looking down at his computer screen.
Speaker 1: It looks like he's down. He's looking down on the
Speaker 1: practice field. Yes, yes, lack of black a drone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they would, they would. They would probably shoot me if
Speaker 1: I was because that's why they moved indoors. Uh. Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy talked about how they were going to have the
Speaker 1: first part of practice outdoors and then they were gonna
Speaker 1: move inside because they're playing indoors. I don't think so.
Speaker 1: I think he didn't want a lot of eyes on practice. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but Icky, the media is not allowed at practice. I mean,
Speaker 1: what difference would it make? I think doctor Pepper and
Speaker 1: Raring got a lot of windows. All right, all right,
Speaker 1: and as you can tell, Micky, we're working with a
Speaker 1: little bit of a delay getting all the way to
Speaker 1: that playoff podcast satellite center, and so we'll work through
Speaker 1: that here. But hey, it's time to get started on
Speaker 1: my drive in Everson. I was listening to k NBR
Speaker 1: in San Francisco, Greg Pappa, who does play by play
Speaker 1: as a radio show out there, so I am briefed
Speaker 1: up on exactly what's going on with the San Francisco
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, And let me tell you, mickey, the
Speaker 1: forty nine ers believe they are coming in here and
Speaker 1: they are not only winning this game at three thirty
Speaker 1: on Saturday, but they are running the table. What they're
Speaker 1: going all the way, That's what they're talking like, Hey, okay,
Speaker 1: they the shades of Eli Manning is that it's a
Speaker 1: it's a pretty confident area. I was reading the newspapers
Speaker 1: San Francisco and Oakland, uh and uh, San Jose by
Speaker 1: the way, the Mercury News, and you guys, I think
Speaker 1: we'll love this little tidbit. They had a guy analyzing
Speaker 1: the Cowboys and he must have been on that website
Speaker 1: that does all the analytical stuff. I can't remember what
Speaker 1: the call letters are for it. But anyway, how about this.
Speaker 1: So he was he was this guy was examining the
Speaker 1: Cowboys secondary and h he said, maybe Shanahan will move
Speaker 1: his attention outside and try to give Dallas cornerback Trayvon
Speaker 1: Diggs something to think about. The second year Alabama player
Speaker 1: led the NFL in interceptions this past season with eleven,
Speaker 1: but when he didn't make the interceptions, he was downright bad.
Speaker 1: Corner Diggs is worthless against the run. The Niners always
Speaker 1: want to run it outside the numbers, but in this game,
Speaker 1: they'll be even more eager. He'll also give up what
Speaker 1: he takes away, though I'm not sure he wins that battle.
Speaker 1: Turnovers are the lifeblood of wins in football. Big Diggs
Speaker 1: risk reward style is something I could imagine the Niners
Speaker 1: offense are targeting with their excellent receivers. I think it
Speaker 1: could be a winning strategy. Coaches leading teams into the
Speaker 1: playoffs didn't coach the season opener. Oh never mind, that
Speaker 1: was the end of it. That was another note. So
Speaker 1: this guy doesn't think much of Treyvon Diggs, right, You know,
Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of that from certain I call
Speaker 1: him ne'er do wells, the people that continue to talk
Speaker 1: about what Diggs does not do. And look, he's a
Speaker 1: second year player, spags, and I'm not expecting him to
Speaker 1: be this, you know, uh, perfect player. First of all,
Speaker 1: if you're gonna try and make interceptions, you're gonna get beat.
Speaker 1: If you're gonna sit back and just you know, let
Speaker 1: guys catch stuff in front of you. That like our
Speaker 1: previous defensive backfield or catching release that I called it.
Speaker 1: That just gets on my nerves. Because it does nothing.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't do anything. You just sit back,
Speaker 1: You let them catch the ball. You play it safe.
Speaker 1: I really don't like playing it safe. I don't think
Speaker 1: our defense, especially our secondary, can afford to play it safe.
Speaker 1: I think we need to get turnovers whenever we can.
Speaker 1: I think aggression is the best way to go for
Speaker 1: any defensive back. And if you get beat a couple
Speaker 1: of times, then that's just the way it goes. But
Speaker 1: I promise you, anytime Diggs gets an interception, it lights
Speaker 1: a fire under this team. And that's just something that
Speaker 1: you can't annually analytically just just ignore shorts like risk
Speaker 1: versus reward. All right, it is bill, you know. And
Speaker 1: and again guys are just looking at numbers. They I
Speaker 1: bet this guy hasn't watched Trayvon Diggs play a game,
Speaker 1: like a whole game, right and just say he's downright bad.
Speaker 1: It's like, okay, mister expert, let's see. Yeah. Sometimes it's
Speaker 1: just a hyperbole. And they're trying to geek up there,
Speaker 1: guys on the West coast end. And I do get
Speaker 1: that you will have opportunities against Trade Diggs, but you
Speaker 1: will also get shut down against Trade Diggs. I have
Speaker 1: seen him, and we've all seen it. To what not
Speaker 1: only does he make interceptions, he has a great number
Speaker 1: of pass breakups as well. So it's not just about interceptions.
Speaker 1: It's about getting his hand on the ball and making
Speaker 1: plays against the wide receiver. To me, I think more
Speaker 1: times than not. And we've seen a lot where opposing
Speaker 1: quarterbacks will throw at Treyvon and the reaction from the
Speaker 1: Cowboys defense after he gets a pick. Yes, we can't
Speaker 1: believe that he threw at him. How stupid were you? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: And so you know, you can pick your Poyson as
Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, and you can pick your poison
Speaker 1: spags as far as I'm concerned, because I was a
Speaker 1: victim of that my rookie year especially. But once you
Speaker 1: start learning, okay, and I think even after halfway through
Speaker 1: our rookie year, and I'm speaking of myself and Michael
Speaker 1: Downs and all those dbs, the big plays that we
Speaker 1: gave up in nineteen eighty one, they diminished greatly during
Speaker 1: the second half of that season and into the playoffs. Okay,
Speaker 1: So when you start looking at that, I believe digs
Speaker 1: in this secondary I think they're getting better and I
Speaker 1: think they've given a fewer big plays in the games
Speaker 1: that they've won, and so I think that that pattern
Speaker 1: is going to continue. All right, Mickey, bring us up
Speaker 1: to speed on you know, and the other the other thing, Bill,
Speaker 1: the other thing, Bill, I was just going to say
Speaker 1: on that. I'm sorry we got a little bit of
Speaker 1: a delay. But there's this perception that the reason he's
Speaker 1: got all these interceptions is that he gambles. And if
Speaker 1: you look at his interceptions, a lot of them, and
Speaker 1: Everson talked about it, like the one that tied his record,
Speaker 1: he wasn't gambling. He was just covering the guy and
Speaker 1: he went up and caught the ball that was a
Speaker 1: fifty fifty ball. It's like he was trailing underneath. That's
Speaker 1: not gambling, that's covering the receiver. And I think that's
Speaker 1: the misconception about him, Like when he gets beat, that
Speaker 1: means he's gambling, but when he gets an interception, that
Speaker 1: means he gambled in one. And I don't I just
Speaker 1: don't think that's accurate. All right, Mickey, bring us up
Speaker 1: to speed on what else is going on here on
Speaker 1: this Wednesday. Well, the Cowboys, like I said, they started,
Speaker 1: this was their first practice getting ready for San Francisco.
Speaker 1: They were outside, then they went inside, and it looks
Speaker 1: like only two guys were missing from practice. Jay Ron
Speaker 1: Curse still hasn't been out of the COVID prot call.
Speaker 1: They expect them back tomorrow. And then the only other
Speaker 1: player that wasn't at practice when Nishan right, And we'll
Speaker 1: see what the when the injury report comes out, just
Speaker 1: exactly why he's not there. But all the other guys
Speaker 1: that were on COVID were at practice, and really the
Speaker 1: guys that had injuries. This is probably the healthiest the
Speaker 1: Cowboys have been in quite some time. And I'm sure
Speaker 1: they're knocking on wood right now because you know, when
Speaker 1: somebody asked me today on the radio about COVID, are
Speaker 1: they in the clear? I said today they are, but
Speaker 1: you never know what tomorrow brings. Remember it, and I've
Speaker 1: listened to San Francisco radio. Apparently the forty nine ers
Speaker 1: are as healthy as they've been in a long time too.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's such a long season, and this
Speaker 1: the longest season ever and with the tools that teams
Speaker 1: have in place in order to put up player on
Speaker 1: injured reserve and bring them back now because of the
Speaker 1: pandemic here the last couple of years there. I think
Speaker 1: it's been from a strategic standpoint and preparing a playoff
Speaker 1: team and getting your guys ready when they need to
Speaker 1: be ready in January. It's been a good thing in
Speaker 1: the NFL that they've got this three week i R
Speaker 1: where guys can get healthy again. And I think you're
Speaker 1: going to see good football being played here in the
Speaker 1: playoffs because teams are healthier than what they normally are
Speaker 1: come playoff time. Although I did see I've tried to
Speaker 1: remember which team it was. They needed help at safety
Speaker 1: and they signed a safety that was already retired. They
Speaker 1: got him under a Weddle trying to remember who did it,
Speaker 1: but they what happened? I guess I'll have to google.
Speaker 1: Eric Weddle plied out the rest of the story. Here Rams,
Speaker 1: the Rams. The Rams are signing Eric Weddle. The Rams
Speaker 1: did that? Yeah, what was he with the Chargers? One point?
Speaker 1: I get those two LA teams mixed up. Well, he
Speaker 1: was with the Chargers for years and then Ravens exactly,
Speaker 1: And yeah he was with the Rams. Wasn't he a man?
Speaker 1: He retired? Yeah? So um, what a great player. Eric
Speaker 1: Weddle has been in his career and uh, so that's interesting. Um,
Speaker 1: he announced his retirement February of twenty twenty, so he
Speaker 1: missed the entire twenty twenty season and obviously been out
Speaker 1: this year, and he's signing with the Rams. Uh and
Speaker 1: he started for the Rams his final year, which would
Speaker 1: have been the twenty nineteen season. So I mean you
Speaker 1: talk about what is he coming back? Is he going
Speaker 1: to be a starter? Is he replacing the starter? Let's see,
Speaker 1: because well look at it, this are shorthanded at safety
Speaker 1: and cornerback and Jordan Fuller out Taylor Rapp who got
Speaker 1: an interception this last game, uh entered concussion protocol. H
Speaker 1: Fuller suffered an ankle injury and it's going to require
Speaker 1: season ending surgery. They also have cornerback Darius Williams suffered
Speaker 1: a shoulder injury in the game. So yeah, they've got
Speaker 1: a bunch of injuries in the secondary. Well, that was
Speaker 1: an emotional game and obviously very very physical as well.
Speaker 1: But them losing that game, I don't know how they're
Speaker 1: going to go into the next game Spags against the
Speaker 1: Cardinals because that you know, you just look at that
Speaker 1: game man and giving it up like you did to
Speaker 1: me that that that doesn't bothe well, I don't think
Speaker 1: for Matt Staffs. Let me ask you, Everson. Okay, let's
Speaker 1: two years after you retired. Let's say, well, in fact
Speaker 1: you retired, what year what was your last year? Nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety three, nineteen ninety three, Let's say in nineteen ninety five,
Speaker 1: because Jimmy wasn't here anymore. Okay, they'd be safe to come.
Speaker 1: Let's say let's say in nineteen Let's say in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety five, say Cowboys had a need for a safety
Speaker 1: as they entered the playoffs? Could you did you keep
Speaker 1: yourself in good enough ship where you could have come
Speaker 1: and contributed in the playoffs. I very well could have
Speaker 1: two years, I'd say up to three to four years after.
Speaker 1: You know, in my mind, I felt that I was
Speaker 1: still in shape to play. I don't know what would
Speaker 1: have happened if I would have gotten out there. I
Speaker 1: always tell people to this day, you can put me
Speaker 1: in on third down. I'm sure on third, third, and
Speaker 1: let's say third and third and fifteen plus, so to
Speaker 1: heck with nineteen ninety five cowboys Right now, Me and
Speaker 1: t O ready to come back, baby, that's right. Get
Speaker 1: on third and fifteen. Plus, I'm sure I could play
Speaker 1: free safety back there and make it. I could make
Speaker 1: it to a flag route. I could actually cover a
Speaker 1: flag route if you just could you have done in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl that year against the Pittsburgh's Steelers. Could
Speaker 1: you have done what Larry Brown did at cornerback? Oh?
Speaker 1: I could do that. Now I could do what Brown did.
Speaker 1: I mean he had he had a great game MVP.
Speaker 1: But let's face it, the place that he made that
Speaker 1: was the least amount of effort he had to spend,
Speaker 1: right and make it. So you're saying Mickey could have
Speaker 1: done that. Mickey could have done that. That's exactly what
Speaker 1: I was saying. Anyone could have done that. I could
Speaker 1: have caught that ball. Absolutely, I would have run just
Speaker 1: as far as he did too. Yeah, I could have
Speaker 1: done that. I could. All Right, we're just getting started
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Speaker 1: Everson Walls has donned a gold shirt here in the
Speaker 1: SWBC podcast studio today. Everson, would you like to explain
Speaker 1: why you're decked out in gold, because it's ordinarily when
Speaker 1: you're playing San Francisco you wouldn't have gold on with
Speaker 1: the gold Rushian, You've got a good reason to be
Speaker 1: playing gold wearing gold today and speaking of gold, but
Speaker 1: just a little bit off off the track, I just
Speaker 1: heard a bad story about the forty nine ers. I mean,
Speaker 1: the original forty nine has scared the heck out of
Speaker 1: me as a black man. But anyway, I am here
Speaker 1: to talk about the celebration that was just given by
Speaker 1: the City of Dallas for Dallas South Oldcliffe High School,
Speaker 1: and we just congratulated them and had a ceremony celebrating
Speaker 1: their UIL state championship for two thousand and twenty one.
Speaker 1: Who did they beat in that game was a Liberty Hill.
Speaker 1: Liberty Hill. They ended up winning that game. The entire
Speaker 1: season was extremely emotional. I think their biggest win that
Speaker 1: year was against Aledo in that playoff game. He talked
Speaker 1: about coach to coach, Jason Todd talked about the ball
Speaker 1: usually bounced away from socc He said, this year, the
Speaker 1: ball bounced their way and the Alito game was something
Speaker 1: that he brought up, so I didn't really see that game,
Speaker 1: but obviously they got maybe a lucky bounce. I finally
Speaker 1: got a break after fifty plus years of not going
Speaker 1: to the championship. So first UIL championship since nineteen fifty
Speaker 1: eight for any Dallas High school to win the state championship.
Speaker 1: And the people that were there to cheer them on
Speaker 1: and to be part of the celebration was Charles Haley
Speaker 1: was one of them. He got up and spoken. Of course,
Speaker 1: that was very adventurous when anytime Charles gets up and
Speaker 1: says something, because you never know what the heck he's
Speaker 1: gonna say. And also Russell Maryland was there. They both
Speaker 1: gave words of encouragement. Charles, by the way, it was
Speaker 1: very emotional and inspiring speech about how you know he
Speaker 1: came up and you know how hard he had to work.
Speaker 1: He was reading three grades behind even when he went
Speaker 1: to school, still got his master him so guy's graduation degrees.
Speaker 1: His bassadors from James Madison and of course Russell Maryland
Speaker 1: got there and just talked about you know, being a champion,
Speaker 1: and of course he had two championships with Miami and
Speaker 1: three with the Cowboys, and I got out there with
Speaker 1: my one Super Bowl win, my only championship with my
Speaker 1: entire life. But this is what they gave us. I
Speaker 1: don't know if if you can see the yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: this is what they gave us, just for participating, congratulating
Speaker 1: them on being champions. For the first Dallas team since
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty eight to win. That so very cool. The
Speaker 1: mayor was there, Mayor Johnson was there, Councilwoman Arnold, She's
Speaker 1: just an amazing young lady, and so we just had
Speaker 1: a lot of people. They are celebrating the moment. They're
Speaker 1: going to have a parade, another parade going through the
Speaker 1: city of Dallas. They also, I believe they're gonna have
Speaker 1: a street. We had the plaque the name of the street,
Speaker 1: and we were taking pictures with it, you know, south
Speaker 1: Old Cliff Lane or whatever it was. So they're going
Speaker 1: to name a street somewhere out there in Old Cliff.
Speaker 1: It's going to be named after in high school. And
Speaker 1: they're going to have a South oh Cliff Day on
Speaker 1: the twenty second of January, if I'm not mistaken, So
Speaker 1: probably a week from Saturday. Yes, yea. And I won't
Speaker 1: even be in town for that, by the way, But
Speaker 1: I remember um as Russell got up and talked about
Speaker 1: the parade, he had to bring up the infamous Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys parade celebration. Everybody was like, hey, we gotta keep down.
Speaker 1: You know, kids, when you google that, this is not
Speaker 1: what we respect from you. We celebrate this was before
Speaker 1: your parents were born. But that we had a parade once.
Speaker 1: It didn't go so we didn't go so well at all.
Speaker 1: I believe the quote unquote was burning cars. I believe
Speaker 1: Russell Maryland said burning cars. So yeah, we don't want that.
Speaker 1: But now I was a good It was a great event,
Speaker 1: it really was. And and I was able to get
Speaker 1: up and introduce UH coach Todd, who went to Texas
Speaker 1: Southern by the way. So he's a swack man and
Speaker 1: uh you know he's a legacy guy. He's been all
Speaker 1: through the Dallas school system. Uh he actually went to
Speaker 1: South oak Cliffe and he uh uh went to uh
Speaker 1: I think he got his masters at Texas A and
Speaker 1: M Commerce. Okay, so yeah, he is a he's a
Speaker 1: an HBCU grad and man, you know, he's just one
Speaker 1: of those guys that just stuck in there. And let's
Speaker 1: let's be real, because of the pandemic, a lot of
Speaker 1: dat schools were finally getting some of the financial aid
Speaker 1: that they've not just necessarily aid, but just necessary resources
Speaker 1: to shore up facilities, to facility the schools and everything.
Speaker 1: Not just in at South Olcliffe, but you just talked
Speaker 1: about I returnl having his name on the new Roosevelt Gym.
Speaker 1: None of that would have happened without the influx of
Speaker 1: funds that came through because of the pandemic. So thank
Speaker 1: God for that, and that made south Oldcliff has said
Speaker 1: that it was because of that infusion of resources and
Speaker 1: money that they were able to finally compete with the
Speaker 1: rest of the state. So now no more taking buses
Speaker 1: to go practice somewhere where you don't it's not your field.
Speaker 1: You could practice at your own field. You had your
Speaker 1: own building to study in. So those kind of things
Speaker 1: that they had to go through this entire season. It
Speaker 1: wasn't really talked about much, but it was the things
Speaker 1: that they had to overcome on the way to winning
Speaker 1: this championship. The Golden Bears of south Old bear and
Speaker 1: there you go. By the way that Alito team they've
Speaker 1: they've won like eight state championships, so that was a
Speaker 1: huge turtle to get past. So that's that's great. And Mickey,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys had the South Oak Cliff football team out
Speaker 1: at for the last home regular season they did. It's Washington.
Speaker 1: I did not know that. I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: the whole team, but there was a whole bunch of
Speaker 1: them that were at the game. Yeah. Absolutely, And uh,
Speaker 1: I think the Cowboys are hoping that for this game
Speaker 1: on Sunday, their fans show up and don't sell tickets.
Speaker 1: By the way, after we saw what took place, we
Speaker 1: kind of took over the stadium. There you go, you go,
Speaker 1: we caught yeah, a matter of as a matter of fact,
Speaker 1: as a matter of fact, I saw I saw something
Speaker 1: from Matthew Stafford. He said it was a tough environment
Speaker 1: for us to communicate in that that means in his
Speaker 1: own stadium. And some of the people said that that
Speaker 1: they had to go silent account because it was so loud.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy, Bill, I mean, this is your home stadium.
Speaker 1: The Cowboys have had it bad. People love to come visit.
Speaker 1: That's what happens when you got no beautiful stadium. That's
Speaker 1: what so Far I had to get used to. You
Speaker 1: got this beautiful stadium. You know, people said, you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna buy my husband a watch. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go to an experience. And sometimes these great arenas are
Speaker 1: part of that experience. And you get these fans coming
Speaker 1: in here. They don't like the cowboys, and they cheer
Speaker 1: real loud. And when I heard the forty nine the
Speaker 1: fans as so Far, I've called my brother, I'm like,
Speaker 1: why are they playing? It was crazy? I mean it was.
Speaker 1: It was when the comeback was happening in the second half,
Speaker 1: it was as if they were spurred on by the
Speaker 1: so Far crowd, which is very unusual. And of course
Speaker 1: La is such a melting pot city. Yes, uh and
Speaker 1: in the rams, having not played there for a long
Speaker 1: period of time. Yeah, that it's easy for forty dollar
Speaker 1: fans to get tickets. There were Mackey so Jerry, Jerry's
Speaker 1: open to get one hundred thousand at the game Sunday,
Speaker 1: That's what he said. He would like to see that.
Speaker 1: And I bet they will, you know, sell more of
Speaker 1: the standing room only tickets. Uh, you guys, you guys
Speaker 1: probably aren't there when they opened the gates. But it
Speaker 1: is the funniest thing you've ever seen when they let
Speaker 1: the standing room people in. Uh, and there's a rush
Speaker 1: to get to the best standing spot possible, right and
Speaker 1: the game against which game was it? Uh, it wasn't
Speaker 1: the last home game, it was the one before that.
Speaker 1: I saw some lady come running through there and she
Speaker 1: face planet just down the Washington game. Everybody was rushing
Speaker 1: to get to the edge, right so they can stand
Speaker 1: there and see. And I would imagine they're gonna pack
Speaker 1: those in pretty good. Um so, yeah, I've already have
Speaker 1: I already jo people calling about standing room only tickets.
Speaker 1: I just got off to off the call with a guy.
Speaker 1: He wanted to know if he can get three standing
Speaker 1: room only tickets. I say, good luck, brother, good luck.
Speaker 1: Can you can you help a guy out? People do
Speaker 1: it just to say they were there, now, can you
Speaker 1: help it out? Yeah? You got connections, don't you? Maby
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've got big connections. Yeah. All right, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have to show they're gonna have to show their
Speaker 1: vaccination card and that they are cowboys. Right. I like that.
Speaker 1: I like that. All right, makey, let's how about we
Speaker 1: make this last segment a longer segment and tell us
Speaker 1: what we need to talk about in this next segment.
Speaker 1: What would you like to hit on in this next segment. Well,
Speaker 1: I I think interesting thing Mike McCarthy said today, because
Speaker 1: everybody's talking about the forty nine ers ability to run
Speaker 1: the football and how they do it out of different
Speaker 1: personnel sets. Doesn't matter how many running backs or how
Speaker 1: many wide receivers, they still run the football. And he
Speaker 1: had an interesting comment about the Cowboys defensive tackle rotation.
Speaker 1: And I think I've figured out also why Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: was due in jumping jacks without assured on in the
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Speaker 1: very good. One thing that before we get into what
Speaker 1: Mickey teased um was it was after the show yesterday
Speaker 1: Joe Judge let let go by the Giants. Gee, what
Speaker 1: a surprise, what a surpriseprise. It took so long, I
Speaker 1: mean that was a slow burn and they just should
Speaker 1: have gotten with him with with with Jason Garrett. That's
Speaker 1: just a slow burn, we know, com But but they
Speaker 1: were making noise like they were going to keep him,
Speaker 1: you know, and they were in gentleman was quote unquote retiring,
Speaker 1: and but they went ahead. Ownership met with Joe Judge
Speaker 1: on Monday and they called him Tuesday morning and said, okay,
Speaker 1: you're you're you're gone. You know, Mickey, after watching that
Speaker 1: play that quarterback sneak on third and nine from their
Speaker 1: own four yard line, I mean, I don't know how
Speaker 1: you could possibly keep a head coach. I mean, he
Speaker 1: had to be making some sort of statement that he
Speaker 1: wanted out of there anyway, when you're when you were
Speaker 1: approving the offense running that play. So we were we
Speaker 1: were right back when we said they just basically sacrifice
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett as the offensive coordinator when they let him go,
Speaker 1: right because, uh, he was trying to save his own ass.
Speaker 1: And it didn't quite work, did it. Yeah? Uh? And
Speaker 1: so it worked out well for Jason and I don't
Speaker 1: I can't remember the timing of it. First at December whatever,
Speaker 1: he got the holidays off and didn't have to be
Speaker 1: didn't have to endure the last five weeks of that meltdown.
Speaker 1: All right, Mickey, what about coach McCarthy and what he
Speaker 1: talked about with the defensive tackle rotation, Yeah, because we
Speaker 1: know that, Uh, the forty nine ers like to run
Speaker 1: the football. They've been very good at it. UH this year.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, I was going to look
Speaker 1: it up and let you know, but I didn't want
Speaker 1: to do it from memory, but from an offensive standpoint. UH.
Speaker 1: San Francisco ended up the seventh or the seventh ranked
Speaker 1: or rushing team. Uh. And they liked to do it
Speaker 1: with two running backs, one running back, two fullbacks. Uh. Heck,
Speaker 1: they'll do it out of three wide receivers and hand
Speaker 1: the ball to uh Deebo Samuel uh So Uh he
Speaker 1: was asked about the defensive tackle rotation, and he said
Speaker 1: that was one of the reasons in this last game
Speaker 1: that they played Neville Gallimore a little bit more than
Speaker 1: maybe the other UH starters because they wanted to make
Speaker 1: sure he was in rhythm to play more snaps. You know,
Speaker 1: when they first brought him back after missing all of
Speaker 1: the season until what the last month, UH, they were
Speaker 1: regulating his snaps. He got two people, as a matter
Speaker 1: of fact, I almost feel two people during that process. Yeah, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was early in the process, right, and he
Speaker 1: said and he said basically his his whops, whoops, we
Speaker 1: lost him. Come on, something something happened off the fingers fingers,
Speaker 1: you know Neville when he came that way. I think
Speaker 1: that was his first game back, with his first game
Speaker 1: against Washington when two people almost died. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: I think ever that was the center and the right,
Speaker 1: that's right. He seemed to be in a pretty good rhythm.
Speaker 1: Then he really did, he really did. You know, when
Speaker 1: you when your name becomes a verb, I mean that
Speaker 1: says something about how devastating you are. So he got
Speaker 1: what he got, net he got can do it either
Speaker 1: either word he got nevilled or got Neville. You know.
Speaker 1: But but Mickey, seriously, this uh, this Niners run game
Speaker 1: is a concern for this defense especially uh even you
Speaker 1: look back to last week against the Eagles and you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: there were some guys missing on the Cowboys side of things,
Speaker 1: including Michael Parsons. But um, you know that's that's the
Speaker 1: bread and butter for the forty nine ers establish that
Speaker 1: run game. They want to carry the ball forty times
Speaker 1: in this game. Oh no, absolutely, And you know what
Speaker 1: at Mike emphasized though that they would like to be
Speaker 1: able to carry the ball thirty times. He figures if
Speaker 1: they can run it that much, then their offense is
Speaker 1: functioning just the way he would like it to be.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's almost like both teams have this idea
Speaker 1: of exactly what they want to do. And you know,
Speaker 1: and one of the things, um that that I've looked
Speaker 1: at with this with this Cowboy defense, and I don't
Speaker 1: know if this is gonna shock you or not, but
Speaker 1: over the course of the season, Uh, the Cowboys defense
Speaker 1: faced one thousand and eighty two plays from scrimmage and
Speaker 1: gave up five thousand, nine hundred and sixty seven yards.
Speaker 1: But of those five thousand, nine hundred and sixty seven yards,
Speaker 1: two thousand, three hundred and thirty four occurred on just
Speaker 1: sixty percent. Is that we're gonna say sixty of the plays,
Speaker 1: it'll be back here to second come on seventy six
Speaker 1: plays and hey, time with this Cowboys, we need to
Speaker 1: we need to hear basically the big place one more time.
Speaker 1: You kind of went out on this. It was very important.
Speaker 1: You went out just at the wrong time. It's one
Speaker 1: more time, please, you know what, we need to cut
Speaker 1: a hole in the walls where I could shout it
Speaker 1: to you better than the reception. Is right, that's very true.
Speaker 1: Back that you, But where did I leave something? You
Speaker 1: were whatever your number, sixty something something gave you gave
Speaker 1: the one thousand yards, one thousand snaps, five thousand yards,
Speaker 1: and then it was sixty froze okay, all right? So, uh,
Speaker 1: what I was trying to point out is one of
Speaker 1: the problems the Cowboys defense have had is given up
Speaker 1: big plays, big pass and run plays, right. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: so seventy six plays, seventy six plays of twenty yards
Speaker 1: or more accounted for two thousand, three hundred and thirty
Speaker 1: four yards for opponents. They were averaging on those seventy
Speaker 1: six plays thirty yards a play, So forty percent of
Speaker 1: the yards the Cowboys gave up came on big plays.
Speaker 1: So that's one of the things. And it's been run
Speaker 1: plays too, and so that's one of the things that
Speaker 1: they've got to make sure they cut down on. Now
Speaker 1: in this game, it's going to help that Parsons is back.
Speaker 1: They need vander Esh to play like the what was
Speaker 1: he either the wolf Hower or whatever was. I'll take
Speaker 1: how he played last week. He was pretty decent last week,
Speaker 1: and how he was around the ball all the time,
Speaker 1: and he really seemed to have I guess with with
Speaker 1: Parstons out, he seemed to try to take that role.
Speaker 1: Obviously not as good as Parsons, but he was definitely
Speaker 1: around the ball a lot more this past game than
Speaker 1: in recent games. No, absolutely, and they're gonna need that.
Speaker 1: They need some head knocking up there, not only the
Speaker 1: defensive front, the defensive tackles, but those linebackers too. Hey,
Speaker 1: let me say something also about San Francisco's offense, and
Speaker 1: you know when you started looking at that team, I
Speaker 1: don't know if we talked about much of it yesterday.
Speaker 1: I can't recall, but you know they have a lot
Speaker 1: of jet motion going and being having devo in the
Speaker 1: backfield that can be extremely deceptive on run and play
Speaker 1: action spags. And that's something that's making me real nervous
Speaker 1: because if we're not able to handle that run, then
Speaker 1: we're gonna be sliced and diced down the field with
Speaker 1: the play action because a lot of those receivers are
Speaker 1: running routes off of this jet motion and it's hard
Speaker 1: for defensive back to get in position to cover big
Speaker 1: plays when you're on the move. You know, that's something
Speaker 1: I had to kind of, you know, get accustomed to,
Speaker 1: and when I came to the pros. It's covering wide
Speaker 1: receivers while in motion and they don't just run. There's
Speaker 1: emotion that jet sweeps that the jet motion itself can
Speaker 1: cause bunch situations. When the three wide receivers are together,
Speaker 1: he can motion away from bunch emotion towards bunch. Those
Speaker 1: kind of things are by designed because they want to
Speaker 1: make sure that you as confused as possible and confuse
Speaker 1: on the run, so that those are things that I'm
Speaker 1: sure that they're practicing their butts off in regards to
Speaker 1: trying to handle that, because not only can it put
Speaker 1: you out of position physically, but mentally, it can confuse
Speaker 1: you and have you playing the wrong position as well
Speaker 1: as the wrong assignment. So recognition and having studied is
Speaker 1: going to be very big time, big time, And it's
Speaker 1: a young defense two spack, so you know, these young
Speaker 1: guys they have to understand just how important that is
Speaker 1: and how different that is from any team that they played,
Speaker 1: because that that is Shanahan style. Ever Sin did you
Speaker 1: hear they should put a sign out. They need to
Speaker 1: put a sign out no hunting sacks. Ah interesting ever, sin,
Speaker 1: did you hear who the offensive player of the week
Speaker 1: is in the NFC? I did hear that on the
Speaker 1: way in, Sir, I did I believe his name was?
Speaker 1: Some guy on this d d P d P DP.
Speaker 1: Are you with me? That's it? Five touchdown passes will
Speaker 1: get it done. Whether you're playing against the JV or not, right,
Speaker 1: don't matter. Yeah, absolutely and well deserved and chose that.
Speaker 1: You know what, he can see the field, by the way,
Speaker 1: if he has time to look, yeah, I would say
Speaker 1: he had plenty of time in that game. And let's
Speaker 1: be real, some of those throws that he made. You know,
Speaker 1: we talk a lot about Aaron Rodgers, and we've got
Speaker 1: some great quarterbacks in this league, there's no doubt about it.
Speaker 1: And they get a lot of props for dropping dimes.
Speaker 1: They always talk about dropping dimes. I have seen Dak
Speaker 1: under pressure while rolling out of the pocket. I mean
Speaker 1: sometimes he's like one step away from being out of bounds,
Speaker 1: and yet he can still find someone like a Michael
Speaker 1: Gallop or Marty Cooper who's also doing a toe drag swag,
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes just to save a sack, you know,
Speaker 1: and sometimes he'll salvage a play and it's twelve yards
Speaker 1: on the sideline. I would call when Lole Collins got
Speaker 1: in trouble for the fight he and Zeke got in
Speaker 1: trouble for the fight that came middle of the game.
Speaker 1: But on that particular play, Dak Prescott, I don't know
Speaker 1: how he got that ball into Michael Gallop. It was
Speaker 1: a completed pass. No one talked about how good the
Speaker 1: pass was because the idiocy came after that, and so
Speaker 1: it's clearly it overshadowed what Dak Prescott has been doing
Speaker 1: all year long in regards to fighting. Heay receivers in
Speaker 1: some seriously tough situations. Make you have anything to add
Speaker 1: to that. He's talking, he's talking, but you can't he's
Speaker 1: froze up again. All right, we got two minutes left
Speaker 1: on this edition of mix Shots. We got we'll work
Speaker 1: out our kinks in the playoffs satellite center. That's we
Speaker 1: can go on without him. We don't need him. It's
Speaker 1: just when it's it's just mix shots, it's just that's
Speaker 1: just on the on the you talked about Charles Haley earlier.
Speaker 1: We u had ran us so I could see I'm unfrozen.
Speaker 1: Now there are Wow. I was gonna mention that Everson
Speaker 1: talked about Charles Haley being at this event. Today. We
Speaker 1: had Charles on UM CBS eleven. Last night, Keith Russell
Speaker 1: did a zoom interview with Charles and Ronnie Lott talking wife.
Speaker 1: It was well it miss it was. It was a
Speaker 1: zoom interview, so I mean it was Lotte. Where did
Speaker 1: you see at the same time? Where did you see that? Well,
Speaker 1: it was on We ranted on CBS eleven last night.
Speaker 1: They taped it at seven o'clock Lass because when he
Speaker 1: came up to we parked next to each other at
Speaker 1: the event we were talking about the at City Hall Plaza,
Speaker 1: so we parked next each other. I was walking in there.
Speaker 1: He comes pools and they've got this big old truck.
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are you doing with the big truck?
Speaker 1: The wheels are taller than me, and so he gets out,
Speaker 1: he goes, hey, man, Ronnie Lott was really giving you
Speaker 1: some props last night, and so I didn't know what
Speaker 1: the heck he was talking about. He got I talked
Speaker 1: to Ronnie. You know, he didn't give me the whole thing.
Speaker 1: I don't know there was a zoom interview. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: thought they were just on the phone talking. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: but it was it was he was, he said, Ronnie
Speaker 1: was was, I guess off camera. He was very complimentary
Speaker 1: of me, and Charles never comes to me with good news,
Speaker 1: like it was very very unusual. There's one thing I appreciated.
Speaker 1: One thing that Ronnie Lott said. He said that when
Speaker 1: the Cowboys played the forty nine ers, um and I
Speaker 1: guess it was in the eighties or whatever year. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know if it was the eighty
Speaker 1: two game or not. But uh, but before the game
Speaker 1: that Ronnie Lott went past midfield, okay, he's on the count.
Speaker 1: You know, their teams are warming up on both ends
Speaker 1: of the field and and he said that he walked
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys side of the field at the side
Speaker 1: of the fifty yard line, and Randy White came up
Speaker 1: to him and said, you get your button on the
Speaker 1: other side of the field, and Ronnie said, yes, sir, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: we'll deal with you later. Yeah, yes, sir, we can't do.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure if that was the championship championship game
Speaker 1: or another meeting, but it maybe an eighty five we
Speaker 1: played them as well. But yeah, yeah, I would imagine
Speaker 1: it was more intense in eighty two than it was
Speaker 1: in eighty five. Yeah, that's pretty cool. Yeah, But when
Speaker 1: you talk about a guy that, even in retirement thirty
Speaker 1: years later or whatever, um, he Ronnie Lott has that
Speaker 1: certain aura about him. You know, well, that's my classmate. Man.
Speaker 1: The class of eighty one, we were full of guys
Speaker 1: like that. Yes, sir, I consider myself that class, even
Speaker 1: I wasn't drafted. But yeah, that Once again, they said
Speaker 1: that the defensive class of nineteen eighty one was considered
Speaker 1: probably the best defensive class in the history of the
Speaker 1: NFL draft. So I would add Michael Downs and ever
Speaker 1: some Walls to that myself, and we would only make
Speaker 1: that class better. So I take much pride in that
Speaker 1: even though we won. All right, Well that might be
Speaker 1: my research that solidifies the statement. There you go, thank you.
Speaker 1: That's right. All right, Mickey, we're gonna work before we go.
Speaker 1: One last thing I'm gonna give you, Okay, all right,
Speaker 1: this is what we call a Mick Nick last shot,
Speaker 1: buzzer shot, a big buzzer shot. Well, we can rand
Speaker 1: it as well. Yeah, so I ran into this because
Speaker 1: someone was going through guys that missed incentives by a
Speaker 1: narrow amount, and this paragraph stood out to me. Free
Speaker 1: agent wide receiver Antonio Brown missed out on nearly one
Speaker 1: million dollars in incentives for failing to reach fifty catches,
Speaker 1: six hundred yards and five touchdowns. Each of those markers
Speaker 1: would have earned him three hundred thirty three three hundred
Speaker 1: thirty hundred dollars. He finished the season with forty two catches,
Speaker 1: five hundred forty five yards and four touchdowns. So when
Speaker 1: he was mad on the sideline, he was mad because
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting targeted enough so he can get his
Speaker 1: million dollars incentivement. But if you let him tell it,
Speaker 1: he said it was because he was injured and did
Speaker 1: not want to go in. Yeah, right, that's what. He
Speaker 1: was mentally injured because he was losing money. And then
Speaker 1: couple that with the video that went viral this week
Speaker 1: of Gronk getting we want to make sure he got
Speaker 1: I did? I did. Yeah, he went to Brady and said, hey,
Speaker 1: I need one more, one more, and everybody in the stadium,
Speaker 1: do the announcers. So that's kind of contradictory to what
Speaker 1: Brown is saying. Yeah, he explained it on he blamed
Speaker 1: it on an injury. He blamed it on his pocketbook.
Speaker 1: I'll guarantee you that his pockets. And let me give
Speaker 1: you one yeah, and let me give you one more.
Speaker 1: Who was glued to that? Uh? To those final games
Speaker 1: in the playoffs? One melt him. Jenkins had a five
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars bonus from the Saints if they made
Speaker 1: the playoffs. Oh wow, So he was cheering for the time, yes,
Speaker 1: the time at the time. Well not if the Niners
Speaker 1: don't beat the Rams, then the Niners lost. Yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1: So imagine if you were sitting with him, watching watching
Speaker 1: that game when it went into overtime. Oh man, oh man, pressure,
Speaker 1: pressure his poor wife. Yeah, okay, I'm losing my voice.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you tomorrow. Good, all right, go Cowboys Bill.
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