1 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian the difference between cars today and cars, you know, 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: classic muscle cars fifty years ago. The car today that 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 1: that that new Corvette will do you know, zero a 4 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: hundre miles an hour in three seconds or fourth second, 5 00:00:15,400 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: whatever the number is. And it's it's it's effortless. It's 6 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 1: a course into their coming. By said, right up back 7 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: thing that carr doctor. You gotta respect the machine. You 8 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: gotta respect what's there, especially in the situation now in 9 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: an urban area where it's getting more and more crowded. Uh, 10 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: it becomes it becomes a mandatory thing. Welcome to the 11 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: radio home of Ron and Nian, the Car Doctor. So 12 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:57,280 Speaker 1: it's this is where car owners the world overturned to 13 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on Automo to repair. If your 14 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 1: and call in the garage doors are open, but I 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 1: am here to take your calls at eight five five 17 00:01:10,080 --> 00:01:17,080 Speaker 1: five six and now he running. Hey, it's time to 18 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: start your engines or maybe tractors, as the case might be. 19 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: As we open up this hour of the Car Doctor, 20 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 1: Ron and ay in here at five five six zero 21 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:25,880 Speaker 1: nine nine zero zero, here to take your calls and 22 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: answer your questions as always. You've got a car problem, 23 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: you've got a vehicle that's not running right, I'm here 24 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:33,679 Speaker 1: for at eight five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 25 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,320 Speaker 1: More information at car Doctor show dot com. Ronny of 26 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor Facebook page, and if you need me 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:39,759 Speaker 1: during the week, the car Doctor is always on call. 28 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: Ron at Car Doctor show dot com. I'm steamed at today, folks, 29 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: I really am. I. You know, sometimes I wish this 30 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: was a serious XM channel because we could really talk. 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 1: But um article came out this week from John Dee 32 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: or John Deer are sendlers of opposition for legislators with 33 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: Bill's files. They're all saying the same thing that anyone 34 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: that allow anyone other than John Dear Dealerships to repair 35 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: their vehicle their equipment will result in the unsafe operation 36 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: of its products, disruption of machine capabilities and performance, changes 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,839 Speaker 1: to a mission controls, voiding of warranties, YadA YadA, YadA, 38 00:02:11,919 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 1: YadA ya. The right to repair is coming up again 39 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: and this is bigger than you know. Who's gonna fix it? 40 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 1: If you read this article, and what I want you 41 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: to do is go out and google John Dear Right 42 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: to Repair tractor maintenance eighteen and look at this article, 43 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: and I want you to read through it, and if 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 1: you get far enough down the list without going holy 45 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 1: cow or something worse, you're gonna realize. What they're saying 46 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,320 Speaker 1: is when the tractor breaks down in the middle of 47 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: the two acre farmers field or bigger and they can't 48 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 1: get a repair technician out there to fix it, and 49 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,640 Speaker 1: the farmer doesn't have the the the the training, or 50 00:02:53,639 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: the equipment or the knowledge or the repair procedure to 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: repair it, the crop goes bid. Think about that, the 52 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:07,240 Speaker 1: crop goes bed. How long before the crop goes bed 53 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: there's a food shortage? Technology is doing us in and 54 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: the stupidity that we're backing it up with isn't helping either. 55 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: Great article, really great article they talk about. The National 56 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: Grange agrees on behalf of our two or a thousand 57 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: members of the National Grange, we support the Right to 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: Repair Act because we believe in an owner's right to maintain, service, repair, 59 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,200 Speaker 1: and rebuild their vehicle or farming equipment on their own 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: quarter by the repair choice shop of their choice. Are 61 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 1: members listen to this? Are members? This is farmers now. 62 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: Farm members are located mostly in rural areas. Yeah, no kidding, 63 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: and they value their ability and freedom to fix and 64 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: repair their own vehicles, tractors, and other farm equipment. Listen, 65 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 1: you're at a farm. You're in the middle of nowhere. 66 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: It's not like you know, you're accessible to you know, 67 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: hearts and and and and you can get a technician 68 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 1: out there in in terms of uh, you know quick, right, 69 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: if that tractors in the middle of the field and 70 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: it's stuck, it's broken, it's not operating, it's doing something wrong. 71 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: Farmers have been fixing their equipment in the middle of 72 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: their fields since before there was equipment. Right, the horse 73 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: lost the shoe, they shoot the horse in the middle 74 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: of the field, and they went back to work. I 75 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: think this is ludicrous. I I don't know what we're 76 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: trying to accomplish by trying to lock them out, because 77 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: I've got to believe that, you know, once again, like 78 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: auto repair, there aren't enough John Dear dealerships to fix 79 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: all the tractors if they broke. More and more farmers, 80 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: the article continues, returning to the internet, thank God, to 81 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: learn how to repair their complex equipment. There, turning to 82 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: websites like I Fix It to share techniques for maintaining equipment. 83 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:45,000 Speaker 1: But that's not enough. We've got to start fighting for 84 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: the farmers. They deserve to be able to repair their 85 00:04:46,960 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 1: equipment quickly and on their own terms. We are working 86 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: to pass fair repair legislations at the state level that 87 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 1: would put farmers back in control of the repair of 88 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: their own equipment, and we've successfully petitioned the Copyright Office 89 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: to carve out protect and for modifications and repairs made 90 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: the software and tractors will continue to fight for the 91 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 1: rights of farmers repair what they own. This is serious. 92 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: This is really serious because we're slowly coming to the 93 00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: point where if the farmer can't repair his equipment, we're 94 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: going to disrupt the food chain. And disrupting the food 95 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: chain has so many implications of of disrupting the economy, food, 96 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: the grocery store, Um, you know, how are we gonna eat? 97 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: This is all about right to repair. The Rate to 98 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: Repair Act is an argument that goes back and forth 99 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: between manufacturers and independent repair facilities that states that only 100 00:05:41,240 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: dealerships should have and there's a lot more to it 101 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:46,600 Speaker 1: than just this, but only dealerships should have the necessary 102 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: right to repair information to maintain a vehicle for a 103 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: variety of reasons, among them software infringement and emission controls 104 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: and correct repair procedure. I'm pretty sure, in my opinion 105 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 1: that there are smart people in repair dealerships, car, tractor otherwise, 106 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: and smart people outside of repair facilities, car dealership, independent, 107 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 1: et cetera. Let the ships fall where they may give 108 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 1: everybody what they need to maintain whatever is they want 109 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: to work on, whether it's a car or tractor. And 110 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 1: the reason the story quote my attention and the reason 111 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: you've got me talking about it up here on a 112 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: show called The Car Doctor, is because it's right to repair. 113 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: The Right to Repair Act has one And I believe 114 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 1: this was in California, which kind of doesn't surprise me. 115 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: And it was a conversation about California and nuts rolling downhill. 116 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: But I won't get into it here. Um just just 117 00:06:39,400 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: suffice it to say that things don't look good. Very upset, 118 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: very very upset. I think we're in trouble, and I 119 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: think we all need to call our elected officials and 120 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: and ask them, you know, what's going on. The article 121 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: talks about before I can fix my tractor, we have 122 00:06:56,880 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: to fix the copyright law that's at Slate dot com. 123 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 1: They talk about it in a blog. Repair dot org 124 00:07:02,960 --> 00:07:07,120 Speaker 1: executive director is testifying fair Fair Repaired Nebraska. Tom. We 125 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: should get somebody from some of these organizations up here 126 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: to talk about this, because what happens right to repair 127 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: with tractors is surely gonna spill over if it hasn't 128 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: already in terms of right to repair with cars. And 129 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: let me tell you how bad things are here in 130 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: New Jersey, all right, And I'll speak from my corner 131 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:29,560 Speaker 1: of the world, so I won't I won't project. I'm 132 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: not talking about you know, news media, which, by the way, 133 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: when you do Google search this story Farmers Right to 134 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: Repair Act, you're gonna come to a couple of websites. 135 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: Wired dot com was one of them. They won't let 136 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: you print from their website, which I don't understand. You're 137 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 1: reporting the news, Let's share the news. Why is it 138 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: such a control thing? They want to make you sign 139 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:51,880 Speaker 1: up for an email address? Again, why we're sharing news here. 140 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: We're not trying to, you know, control anything. I sometimes 141 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: I think the comments about the media controlling things to 142 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: a degree, you're accurate. Uh here in New Jersey, in 143 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: North Jersey, they're losing repair shops. You can see it. 144 00:08:05,960 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: Guys are getting older. There's nobody coming in. The cost 145 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: to get into a repair shop business is very very high, 146 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: and there's there's less places to go. There's less there's 147 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: less training classes that people are attending. One of the 148 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: national trainers I go in attend Chris's classes, Chris Lewis, 149 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: the boys from UM A t G. I go there 150 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: as many times as I can get there in a year. 151 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: And Chris spoke to me Thursday we talked their upcoming 152 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: November fourteen, fifteen class on CAN Communication Network Data Bus Information. Yep, 153 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 1: we're talking about fixing cars network. Can Communication Data Bus 154 00:08:38,160 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: is being seriously considered being canceled because not enough people 155 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 1: have signed up for it. They need a certain number 156 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 1: to make the numbers work. And I'm saying, but but 157 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: how can that be? Because you know the phone calls 158 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: that I get here, the phone calls I get at 159 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:54,080 Speaker 1: the shop from shops that are asking me CAN data 160 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:56,480 Speaker 1: questions that make me say, well, I guess they really 161 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 1: need training, but they're not willing to go. The back 162 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: lot at the shop right now is about two two 163 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,120 Speaker 1: and a half weeks and that's not abnormal. UM I'm 164 00:09:05,160 --> 00:09:07,600 Speaker 1: hearing stories of dealerships backed up a week and a half, 165 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: two weeks, and it seems like and I'll have to 166 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 1: lump myself in here and pat myself on the back 167 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: that the better shops are busy and the better shops 168 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: are backed up because the complexity of the car has 169 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: gone up, and you know, it's about the repair shop 170 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: making that commitment to training, to to equipment, to establishing 171 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: procedures and things like right to repair or disrupting it. 172 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 1: Things like right to repair are creating issues where without 173 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: proper training and equipment, there's a problem. In the case 174 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: of the car, well, you're not going to work tomorrow 175 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: your car is broken. In the case of the farmer, 176 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 1: all the tractor is not coming out of the field 177 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:49,000 Speaker 1: because the tractor is broken. But there's a bigger problem 178 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,000 Speaker 1: because we're not taking the food out of the field, 179 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 1: and sooner or later that's going to catch up to us. 180 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: We're letting technology govern us, not governing technology. We're do 181 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: when it's backwards, folks, eight five, five six zero nine 182 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:05,040 Speaker 1: zero zero. I'm running the name of the car doctor. 183 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to hear your opinion, if you've got one. 184 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: This hour on it, or if you're listening to this 185 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: visa a V podcast and you've got a thought, send 186 00:10:11,080 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: it to me Ron at Car Doctor show dot com. 187 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: I'd like to read it up here on air, but 188 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: we all need to be aware of Go out and 189 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: google John dear Farmer's Right to Repair eighteen. Read that story. 190 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 1: See if you can maintain your composure. I'll be back 191 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: right after this. He drives that way. But when it 192 00:10:29,360 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: comes to fixing cars, Ron has card advice done right 193 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero. 194 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 1: Here's Ron. Let's get over and talk to Sean and 195 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:40,920 Speaker 1: d Luth Minnesota and open the garage doors today, Shaw 196 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:42,440 Speaker 1: and welcome to the Car Doctor. How can I help? 197 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: All right? Say Ron, I spoke to you about a 198 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 1: month ago. I have got a ninety eight Chevy with 199 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: a five point seven leader in there, and I've been 200 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: having this problem for oh maybe six months or so. 201 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:58,960 Speaker 1: Now appeal wour some mean on those things. And what 202 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: I did, and I old you at the time, was 203 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,200 Speaker 1: you know I sis. She started with cleaning the master 204 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:08,199 Speaker 1: flow sensor and new fuel filter, new air filter, cleaned 205 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 1: the throttle body, I cleared the codes with a O'Reilly 206 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: gauge and everything came back within ten miles. And the 207 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,079 Speaker 1: next step was to put new auction sensors in both 208 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,839 Speaker 1: pre imposed converter new QC del PCV. THELL clear to 209 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: codes came back again. Then I actually put a new 210 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor in, and I actually tried to check 211 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:36,200 Speaker 1: around the intake with with some carburetor cleaner and some 212 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: starting fluid and didn't get any change in our PM 213 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: or anything. And and the last thing I did was 214 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: I replaced the vacuum hoses coming from the lockers into 215 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 1: the intake, and then the other one past your side 216 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: that went from that goes from the rocker into the 217 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: air intake before the throttle body there and you and 218 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: when I called you said, you know, go via OB 219 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: to tester, and you know, go from there and use 220 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:07,319 Speaker 1: some protein and etcetera, etcetera. And I didn't borrow a 221 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: relatively cheap one, I guess from the mechanic And unfortunately 222 00:12:13,640 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: the live data function on this that it took data 223 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:19,400 Speaker 1: like every three seconds, so I really couldn't use protein 224 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: or all in the intake and get anything. But I 225 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: didn't register some readings the fuel trim on both bank 226 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:29,560 Speaker 1: one and bank too. At that startup was reading like 227 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 1: between nine and eleven percent, and then at nine degrees 228 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: at the up to twenty four point nine percent. So 229 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,440 Speaker 1: what I did was I went to local shop here 230 00:12:38,520 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: for fifty bucks. And he's got a dollar snap on 231 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: system there, I guess. And and we we did some 232 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: checks at idle and we we took it out in 233 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: the road and um, we you know, he didn't really 234 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,320 Speaker 1: come up with anything there, and we brought it back 235 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: into the shop. We tested fuel pressure was tested okay, 236 00:13:02,240 --> 00:13:06,439 Speaker 1: and we smoked tests at the intake system and in 237 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: thought that there was a possible intake gasket leaked there, 238 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: and although nothing was confirmed, and I left and then 239 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: I came back the next day and I said, would 240 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 1: you be so good is to you know, hook the 241 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 1: meter up again and and you know, let's gas around 242 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: the intake and the hoses and stuff with your snap 243 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 1: on there and see if that's going to change anything. 244 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:31,599 Speaker 1: And he said, yeah, you know, and so he did. 245 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:35,440 Speaker 1: And you know, we we can't really find anything except 246 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: to say that he thinks it's an intake manifold gasket. 247 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: I think it's an intake manifold gasket, but I don't 248 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 1: want to tear into this thing, you know, unless I 249 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 1: get some better information. So I was looking for some 250 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: other advice from you, if possible. Alright, So you know 251 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: the key here is what's fuel trim? Fuel trim? This 252 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:58,000 Speaker 1: fault code sets better. So if just to refresh everybody, 253 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 1: if zero is balanced plus twenty when it gets the 254 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:04,960 Speaker 1: it's setting a fault code on that bank. In this case, 255 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 1: both banks are pretty equal. So we've got we've got 256 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:11,720 Speaker 1: a lean code. Uh. You know, the question I've got 257 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:15,080 Speaker 1: is where's it coming from? All right? If it's not 258 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: vacuum lines, did you happen to try plugging the brake boosters? 259 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: Is a break booster or a hydro boost vehicle? H 260 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 1: that's a break booster. Could I have a small vacuum 261 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:29,320 Speaker 1: leak in the brake booster creating this? Possible? All right? 262 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 1: And we did gas but didn't see. But yeah, I 263 00:14:34,480 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: don't know if you'd see it, I would physically, I 264 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: would just pull the line. I would pull the line 265 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: out of the booster and and plug it. And it 266 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: might come to that shown you know, it might be 267 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 1: more than one line leak in creating the condition, So 268 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: it might be where unplugged the brake, booster cork the 269 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: line it might be where uncorked, you know, unplugged the 270 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:58,760 Speaker 1: purge valve cork it so it can't draw in the air, 271 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,560 Speaker 1: although you would think it would be drawing fumes and 272 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,200 Speaker 1: making it rich. But just just to play it safe, 273 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: let's make this a basic engine, all right. If if 274 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 1: we get this to the point where no vacuum leaks 275 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 1: out of any any vacuum source, and we verified the 276 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: mass intake duct, make sure the duct itself is good. Right, 277 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: you looked at that, no cracks, no no leaks there. Um, 278 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 1: if you take this out on the road, have your 279 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 1: mechanic take it out on the road and bring up 280 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: calculated load. Did we talk about calculated load the last time? 281 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 1: I think we did, and I think and I think 282 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: you were seeing like it should be running between I'm 283 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: not sure, right, he puts his basically, calculated load is 284 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:48,240 Speaker 1: is a is a calculation like it says, based on 285 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: mass airflow sensor efficiency. Alright, inhale, Right, how well did 286 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:57,400 Speaker 1: you do it? Everybody does it different, every car does 287 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: it different, but every car has to meet a certain standard. 288 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: So if we put our foot to the floor from 289 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: a ten mile kick and we're looking at calculated load. 290 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,800 Speaker 1: We should see that that mass airflow center if it's 291 00:16:09,840 --> 00:16:13,400 Speaker 1: responding correctly and reporting all the air being pulled in, 292 00:16:13,960 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: that mass airflow sensor should report tile or better. All right, 293 00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: if if, if you want to see an example of 294 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: it and learn the what's the word I'm looking for, 295 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: learn the procedure correctly? Do it to a good car. See, 296 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: you know you understand if if if, if the car 297 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,040 Speaker 1: has got good fuel trim, and you know you want 298 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: to learn how something should work. Test a good car. 299 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: So your problem is you're testing a bad car, all right, 300 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: So but yeah, I want to know where's calculated load, 301 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: if mass airflow reports calculated load correct, if fuel pressure 302 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: is good, if volume is good, if there are no 303 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: vacuum leaks, if PCV isn't out of calibration creating a problem. 304 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: For that matter, plug the PCV, plug every vacuum line 305 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: you can get to. At that point, it's just an engine. 306 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: And if that thing is still showing all dal and 307 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: the fact, I gotta tell you it just dawned on me. 308 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: If it's all vital, I doubt this is a vacuum leak. 309 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: I think this is something else somewhere, and I'm going 310 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,399 Speaker 1: to think more along lines of intake. All right, maybe 311 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,439 Speaker 1: you want to crack this, you know, bring the throttle 312 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: up the rpm. And when fuel trim is you want 313 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:21,680 Speaker 1: to sit there and then hit it with the propane 314 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,040 Speaker 1: because maybe it's pulling on the gaskets in such a 315 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:28,720 Speaker 1: way that it's it's creating the condition. But propane fuel trim. 316 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:31,280 Speaker 1: There's a reason why this thing is drawing and running 317 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: so lean and that'll that'll, that'll bring it to a conclusion. 318 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: Just gotta verify mass airflow is good. And you know, 319 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: even if you change it, I still check a mass 320 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: airflow because you know what new means never ever worked. 321 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:45,480 Speaker 1: But you know that's there's there's no rocket science here. 322 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:48,120 Speaker 1: I always think of if I could get it back 323 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,280 Speaker 1: to a basic engine, or how as basic as I 324 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: can get it with today's vehicles. You know, That's kind 325 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 1: of what I'm trying to do here. And sometimes the diagnose, 326 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 1: and I say this a lot lately, sometimes the diagnosed 327 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 1: it's differential diagnosed. Us. Tell me what's good, proved to me, 328 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: what's good, whatever's left that's gonna be bad. Go from there, 329 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:07,800 Speaker 1: call me next week. Clemany make out. I'm on an 330 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: any in the car and doctor eight five five five 331 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: six zero zero. We're back right after this. When the 332 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:29,959 Speaker 1: family car needs some fixing, there's only two things that 333 00:18:30,000 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: really matter, getting the right part and getting some good advice. 334 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: It's a pretty safe bet that, with over a million 335 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: parts in stock, pet Boys has the right part right now. 336 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:42,199 Speaker 1: The pet Boys Pros are extensively trained to find the 337 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: right part for just about any car or truck. Better yet, 338 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:49,000 Speaker 1: these pros can also handle the entire installation or service needed. 339 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,640 Speaker 1: It's always good to have options and no, the pet 340 00:18:51,680 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 1: Boys Pros had it covered either way. You and me both, 341 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: brother of the car Doctor here at zero zero zero. Um, 342 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:13,719 Speaker 1: who was that time? I can't think of the name 343 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: of that group. That's uh, that's right, a C. D C. 344 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: I was listening to Twisted Sister the other day. Do 345 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: you know where Twisted Sister came from? Focus, Yeah, like 346 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:28,479 Speaker 1: the next town over from the shop. I was stunned 347 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: to know that. I didn't realize that D. Snyder, when 348 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: I worked at a different radio station New York City, 349 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: actually came in an audition for Afternoon Drive. What a 350 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: great guy he is. Yeah, and he's a real car 351 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:43,239 Speaker 1: guy too, real car guy. Speaking of car guys, I 352 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: want you to also on your interview to get list. 353 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: There's a new show on Netflix, um Gotham Garage. Actually, 354 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:53,359 Speaker 1: I think it's called Russ to Riches. It's about this 355 00:19:53,560 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: where they to Mecula to Mecula, California. I hope I'm 356 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:00,719 Speaker 1: saying that right. T m um uh. The owner's name 357 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,080 Speaker 1: is Mark Mark Towel's t O W L E. S. 358 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:05,400 Speaker 1: This is a really great show. They've only there's only 359 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: eight episodes on Netflix. Is a net it's a Netflix 360 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,719 Speaker 1: only show. They'll take a junk car, let's fix it, 361 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: sell it. Take another junk take that car, fix that 362 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:20,439 Speaker 1: up to something better, sell that, and within three or 363 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:23,680 Speaker 1: four cars, they go from buying something for ten bucks, 364 00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 1: they've got a hundred fifty dollar cars. It's really kind 365 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,840 Speaker 1: of cool what they do they I was watching it 366 00:20:29,920 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: last night. They created that what did they called the 367 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 1: franken Van. They took a Volkswagen bus right away, I went, right, 368 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 1: they took a Volkswagen bus, cut it in half, right 369 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: they went and they traded a Junkyard motorcycle. They got 370 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: for free a Honda Goldwin Goldwin, Goldwin whatever, it is 371 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: whatever they took that. They got that for nothing. They 372 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: stripped it down. They made it look like a steam 373 00:20:56,760 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: powered motorcycle. It was really crazy. With one dollars the 374 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:04,560 Speaker 1: copper and a beer keg right, they traded that for 375 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:08,479 Speaker 1: a four fifty four big block Chevy with a blower 376 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: on it. They well did that into the floor of 377 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:15,280 Speaker 1: the Volkswagen, shopped the roof of the volks I mean 378 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: it was nuts. And then they went out into the 379 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: desert and went they went flying along. Great, you gotta 380 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 1: get that guy. I want to talk to work Towels. 381 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,960 Speaker 1: I think he'd be a fun interview. He really would. 382 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: It's um I hope they do more of that show. 383 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:28,119 Speaker 1: It's it's got my eye. Anyway, let's get over and 384 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,639 Speaker 1: talk to Greg and Iowa sixteen JEP Cherokee. Greg, Welcome 385 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: to the car doctor, Sir. How can I help my wife? 386 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: Uh sometimes like to put the floor or foot down 387 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,879 Speaker 1: to the floor with their car. And one day she 388 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: was getting on on the freeway, made a hard left 389 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: turn to get on the on ramp, and as she 390 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 1: was making that hard current, uh, the engine died and 391 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,360 Speaker 1: the traction control malfunction like came on. He pulled over 392 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: the star side of the roach at the engine off, 393 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: he started it. Everything came up, no warning light anymore, 394 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: and she was shaken up a little by it. She 395 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 1: drove off to the next exit and waited for me 396 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: to come rescue her. And when I got there, I 397 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: couldn't find anything wrong with the car. The only thing 398 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: that I found that might have been out of lack 399 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,359 Speaker 1: was I popped the fuse box open out under the 400 00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: hood and I was able to give probably of the 401 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,120 Speaker 1: fuses underneath there just that extra little snap. Yeah, they're 402 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: trying to work their way out, and of the car 403 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 1: was was perfectly fine until last week. She was driving 404 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: down the interstate going only about fifty miles in a 405 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 1: heavy rain, and the traction control malfunction came on again 406 00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: and then went off and nothing did nutschall that time. 407 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,439 Speaker 1: They just kept it, just kept rolla we are at 408 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: this moment. Yeah, otherwise the car run fine. How many 409 00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 1: the only time it's called is that first time? How 410 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: many miles on it? Greg? Uh? So you do a 411 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,879 Speaker 1: fair fair amount of driving? Um? Are are are you 412 00:23:15,920 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: out in farm country in Iowa? Um? Sometimes we are 413 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 1: rough roads, dirty roads. Sometimes you got me do a 414 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,040 Speaker 1: fair amount of driving on gravel. Not every day, but enough. 415 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 1: So let's talk about how does the traction control system 416 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: on that car work. Like a lot of cars, they're 417 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: looking at the rotation or how fast their wheels are turning. 418 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: Each individual wheel. They're tracking it off the A B 419 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 1: S sensors or wheel speed sensors. So if one speed 420 00:23:44,359 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: sensor puts out an erroneous message or you know, changes, 421 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: it's it's signal, all of a sudden, the car thinks 422 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: that that wheel is slowing down when it's not, and 423 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 1: it will put the car into a false abs or 424 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: traction control event. So, you know, one of the things 425 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: I've learned to look for on on on farm vehicles 426 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: quote unquote no no, no harm intended is put it 427 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 1: up in the air and just look at the wheel 428 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: speed sensors, look at the look at the tone rings 429 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 1: which should be on the outer end of the axle. 430 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 1: I believe they're exposed. Do any of them look damage 431 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 1: packed with mud, packed with debris. You know, that's the 432 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: simple stuff. That's something you can do just to see, 433 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 1: you know, do we have good clear tone rings on 434 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:31,120 Speaker 1: the vehicle. Then you know the next step would be 435 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 1: that I would and I like your idea about fuses. 436 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm seeing a lot of weird things with fuses and such. 437 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: But you know, just our battery cable connections good clean 438 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: and tight. Are all grounds good clean and tight. And 439 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:46,639 Speaker 1: my next step would be I'd want to dry and 440 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: drive this, and I'd like to use a scope on 441 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: it versus a scan tool. Scan tool won't be fast enough. 442 00:24:52,240 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: And at least what we call wave out or pin 443 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: out the the four A, B S sensors and just 444 00:24:57,840 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: stack them up against each other. In other words, and 445 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,679 Speaker 1: a B S sensor is gonna produce a voltage signal 446 00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: if if we're traveling down the road at forty miles 447 00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:07,480 Speaker 1: an hour, wheels straight ahead, we should see an equal 448 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 1: signal from each sensor. Right, So if she's driving down 449 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 1: the road and all of a sudden, one signal, you know, 450 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,159 Speaker 1: changes its size or how often it's it's changing uh 451 00:25:18,400 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 1: voltage from high to low, all of a sudden, the 452 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: computer takes that as a Hey, that wheel slip, and 453 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 1: let's apply the brakes, let's apply traction control. Let's try 454 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: and keep the vehicle straight. And you know, the only 455 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: accurate way you're gonna find and intermittent because Unfortunately, that's 456 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: what you obviously have. The the only way you're gonna 457 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,679 Speaker 1: find that is hopefully the scope is gonna see it 458 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: while it's hooked up, and if it's not, then you've 459 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: got another issue. One one one comment on the stalling. 460 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: I'd also like to know you ever reboot a computer 461 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: at home and you know you it's it's got this information. Well, 462 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,800 Speaker 1: it's kind of what you're doing. You know, you've you've 463 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: got you've got this information on the desktop and then 464 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: it just sort of locks up and you've got to 465 00:25:58,040 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: reboot it, and you lost that information because as you 466 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: didn't save it. Car computers kind of do the same thing. Um, 467 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, so you start to look at the numbers. 468 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: I like to look at fuel trim. I like to 469 00:26:09,560 --> 00:26:12,680 Speaker 1: look to see where monitors are, the self tests are. 470 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: I want to see did it do some sort of 471 00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 1: a complete reset. And if it did, what I start 472 00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: to think about is it lost power, lost power, it 473 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,520 Speaker 1: lost ground, um, it lost connectivity to some to electrical 474 00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,520 Speaker 1: one end or the other. And it it put that 475 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: vehicle into a reset, it would be the same thing 476 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,959 Speaker 1: as if the battery was disconnected years ago. And the 477 00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: principle is still the same we had a nineties six suburban. 478 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,800 Speaker 1: I never forgot this truck that every time it would 479 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 1: hit a pothole, it would stall only when it was cold. 480 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: And I worked on that truck for the better part 481 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,879 Speaker 1: of a week, and I kind of went around and 482 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:50,920 Speaker 1: around and around, and I couldn't duplicate it. And then 483 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: one day I went back to let me make sure 484 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 1: the battery terminals are as clean as I think they are, 485 00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,120 Speaker 1: because I had wiggled him. But you know, I didn't 486 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: take them apart. Silly me. I want to take the 487 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,320 Speaker 1: one terminal apart. And at first the nut was really tight. 488 00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: It was a side terminal, and it fought me. And 489 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden it fell out the the 490 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: ends of the pulk, just throw it fell out of 491 00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: the battery case. And what happened was, you know, the 492 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: battery case was leaking acid. It had eroded away that 493 00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: the stud and the nutting um. It just made a 494 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:25,200 Speaker 1: poor connection under the right impact under a cold operating 495 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: an engine, because an engine, even with all these computers, 496 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: is still operating, you know, it's still operating under durest 497 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,400 Speaker 1: until it's warmed up like any other mechanical device, and 498 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: just the right bump, the right flick of the wrist, 499 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: and that car would shut off. Just make sure battery 500 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: cables connections are good, clean and tight, and it probably 501 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,400 Speaker 1: wouldn't hurt. And this will sound silly, but I'll hook 502 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: a vaultmeter up to a battery, and if I can, 503 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 1: I will gently g E N T L Y, gently 504 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: tap the sides of the battery with a rubber mallet. 505 00:28:00,800 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: I'm looking for shock impact. I'm looking to see if 506 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: the voltage changes or drops or in any way varies 507 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: from what it's supposed to be or is. And you know, 508 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,480 Speaker 1: just just looking to see to that battery makes some 509 00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: sort of a spike. Alright, sir, Okay, so good. I remember. 510 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,960 Speaker 1: I remember, I'm a broadcast engineer. I'm a talking out 511 00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: of chat broadcast equipment gently with a hammer. Yeah, so 512 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: you know you've got then Tom Ray can Tom Ray 513 00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: can explain the gentle Well, he can't explain the gentle part, 514 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: but he knows about the hammer. Park. So I gotta go. 515 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:29,679 Speaker 1: I'm up against the clock, Tom yelling at me. You 516 00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 1: let us know what happens, all right, Greg, take good care. 517 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:36,480 Speaker 1: Five zero nine zero zero, Tom, I see you're getting 518 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 1: your relatives to call. Now, we'll be back right after this. 519 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: Back Brian the cardact. Let it over. Talk to Dave. 520 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 1: Holy yoak mass that holy yoak mass. Yeah, I think so, Dave. 521 00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 1: How are you welcome back? You never you never found 522 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: that CRT screen? Huh yeah, yeah, I am a found 523 00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: one that day. Like I told you, the one you 524 00:28:57,480 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: turned me on too, he had nothing but doing the 525 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 1: guts aren't the same or anything. Try this guy. This 526 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: is the only other guy I could think of. Alright, 527 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 1: let me write something down here. Eastern Electronics used to 528 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,240 Speaker 1: be one of the biggest GM repair facilities on the 529 00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: East Coast going back twenty years ago. And when they 530 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,200 Speaker 1: shut down I think fifteen years ago, THEO, the head tech, 531 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 1: took over the business. And I actually think he's working 532 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: out of his house or in a commercial building close 533 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: to his house in Elmwood Park, New Jersey. If THEO 534 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 1: can't fix it, you know, maybe he's got a line 535 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:32,760 Speaker 1: on it. I'm not really sure if I'm helping you 536 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: or hurting you or um just trying to send you 537 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 1: in a direction everything two oh one, three three four 538 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: two three nine four five. And I came across somebody 539 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: that told me there was a guy from Buffalo that 540 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 1: you know, we built him, guaranteed him for a couple 541 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: of years, and then you know, I was gonna take 542 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 1: my hold and out and send it to him and 543 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: put the new one in. And but I never was 544 00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,800 Speaker 1: able to find out where he was. There's gotta be 545 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: I find it very hard to believe that, you know, 546 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: they're just all gone, you know, you know, I think 547 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: the whole thing is that the Oldsmobile is totally different 548 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 1: from the Buick, And funny I probably ran about the same, right, 549 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: I think Cattillac one time added too. You know, I wonder, 550 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: you know, maybe you gotta hunt. It's it's like you 551 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: gotta hunt where there's where there's bigger fish, so to speak. 552 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: And you wonder what's in and around Los Angeles. My gosh, 553 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 1: the car culture around Los Angeles is so huge. You've 554 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,640 Speaker 1: got to think that somebody on the West Coast either 555 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: has you know, some parts stored away or uh you know, 556 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 1: and that's and that's part of the problem too, right that. Listen. 557 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: I know a guy around here in New Jersey. He 558 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 1: supposedly he's got fourteen, four or nine Chevy engines he's 559 00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: hoarding for good only knows what reason. He's seventy five 560 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: years old. He says he's gonna he's gonna use him 561 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: one day. I'm like, dude, you better do it soon. 562 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: You know, it's time slipping away. Uh yeah, million years ago, right, 563 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: I just I just you know, but that's yeah, that's 564 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: you wonder what do I get many calls from the 565 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: West Coast? Yeah, we've gotten West coast. We have West 566 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,800 Speaker 1: coast phone calls and UM so we are on the 567 00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: West coast, so they're they're hearing us out there, and 568 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 1: then the podcast numbers take us around the world. So 569 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 1: you would think, and let's let's make a plea here 570 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: if anybody's got any information Olds Toronado Trafeo Dave from 571 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: Masses looking for the CRT screen, which is the color 572 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: touch screen. Another GM idea UM GM Giant mistakes that 573 00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 1: UM was used to control the climate control radio. Right, 574 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: what else did it do? It does everything, but it's 575 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: it completely analyzed the whole car when you first started 576 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: the car. Yeah, you know, they heat the light everything. Yeah. 577 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 1: UM just really way out there in the future. They were, Yeah, 578 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 1: I mean I can I can drive it without it, 579 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 1: but you know, I gotta you know I gotta find 580 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,520 Speaker 1: my way. Yeah, but you know what it's that was 581 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: the fun of it. Uh, that was the fun of 582 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,640 Speaker 1: the whole car. So it uh, hey listen sometimes real 583 00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: quick and then I gotta go. But we had a 584 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: we have ave Chevy Tahoe in the shop. It needs 585 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,400 Speaker 1: it needs a front differential. It just makes you feel 586 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: any better. It's not just old old different things. Needs 587 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 1: a front differential. We wanted to We wanted to buy 588 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,080 Speaker 1: the whole assembly. Fifty one mile real clean truck. GM 589 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: doesn't make it anymore six years old. You figure it out. Yeah, 590 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: you know they get rid of parts so quick. Hey, 591 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: let's just buy another one day. If I gotta go, 592 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 1: I'm up against the clock. Let's see if that does 593 00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: anything for you. Good luck with THEO and Eastern Electronics zero. 594 00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: The car Doctor is coming back right after this. Hey, 595 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: welcome back right on any of the car Doctor, Tony. 596 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: I just want to say hello. It's a pleasure to 597 00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,880 Speaker 1: look across the glass and see you this week. Pleasures 598 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 1: I've missed you, dear. Yeah, so you know you're you're 599 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:46,840 Speaker 1: holding up all okay so far? Look the New York Giants. 600 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:51,520 Speaker 1: I know where you were going with this, Okay, I 601 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 1: just want to make sure you know you got up 602 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:56,800 Speaker 1: on those railroad tracks last week. We heard you were 603 00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,520 Speaker 1: holding up all the trains walking down the tracks. No, no, no, 604 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm been a New York Giant fan for forty eight years. 605 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: I know how they are. I have to take them 606 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: at face value. Okay, So I'm not gonna jump off 607 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: the cliff or you know, from myself in front of 608 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: a locomotive. This because the Giants of Scrubs look at 609 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,880 Speaker 1: this way a least you're not a Mets fan. That's 610 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: that's that's right, that's true. Now, what if we took 611 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 1: players from the midst the Yankees, the Jets, and the Giants, 612 00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: we can make one team. We just got figured what 613 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: support that would be. It's not it. No, no, no, 614 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: it won't work. You know in New York we still need, 615 00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,960 Speaker 1: uh the frustration for routing for the Yankees, the Giants 616 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:37,920 Speaker 1: or or you know, yeah, I at least we're not 617 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:42,560 Speaker 1: Baltimore Orioles fans. Yes, sixty games out of first place, 618 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: all Cleveland Browns fans, even though Cleveland just beat the 619 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,240 Speaker 1: Jets this past Thursday night, and and we're so far 620 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: off the subject the cars real quick, folks, did you 621 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,040 Speaker 1: hear the part about I didn't know this, but in Cleveland, 622 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: Budweiser had all these little refrigerators in the bars and 623 00:33:56,720 --> 00:34:00,400 Speaker 1: they were electronically locked. And when the Jets law, when 624 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: Cleveland one to beat the Jets, free beer for everybody, 625 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 1: they electronically unlocked, firelessly unlocked all the refrigerators and everybody 626 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: got free beer. Unfortunately it was old beer because it 627 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: was in there over a year, uh three six and 628 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:20,000 Speaker 1: thirty something days. Yeah, so that's um, yeah, just crazy 629 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: stun the way, Tony, thanks for being here today. You 630 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,480 Speaker 1: get to look at Ron instead of me, and well, 631 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: of course it's it's vice versa because I don't have 632 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: to see Tom anymore. Um, of course it's kind of 633 00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: blinding in there when they both anyway, UM, I want 634 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:33,799 Speaker 1: to talk about this real quick because of all the 635 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,839 Speaker 1: fires out west. I never thought about this, but well, 636 00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: the forest fires going on in California and this comes 637 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,360 Speaker 1: to us courtesy of the Car Care Council. With forest 638 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,759 Speaker 1: fires continuing to burn throughout the West, and nonprofit Car 639 00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: Care Council in marks car owners to have their cabin 640 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,920 Speaker 1: air filters inspected and changed regularly. You know, that's actually 641 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:52,360 Speaker 1: very true, and especially this time of year, heading into winter, 642 00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: because today is today's first day of faller tomorrow, today's 643 00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: first day of fall. Um. You know, we've gotta start 644 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: thinking about we're gonna be in a closed cabin. We 645 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: just went through the summer. Um, it's time to think 646 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,280 Speaker 1: about changing the cabin air filter if we haven't already. 647 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,479 Speaker 1: Rich White, the executive director of the Car Care Council, says, 648 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,479 Speaker 1: and he's correct. With the amount of smoking debris caused 649 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: by forest fires, it is very likely the cabin air 650 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,440 Speaker 1: filters in the vicinity of been severely affected, not to 651 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: mention vehicle air filters too, So if you're in a 652 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: part of the country forest fires, heaven forbid, um, lots 653 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: of debreed dirt and dust in the air, it's time 654 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: to start thinking about them. It's time to start thinking about, 655 00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, changing filters like that. More information at carcare 656 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,520 Speaker 1: dot org. I'm not anating the car doctor looking up 657 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you