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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after

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Speaker 1: has always a whole lot of Rosie. All Right, disc goes,

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Speaker 1: let's get into it. Pulp Fiction is the best Quentin

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Speaker 1: Ludicrous, authoritative statements like these before, particularly about films, stating

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Speaker 2: It propelled him, It propelled his world. It blew us

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Speaker 1: Amazing movie, incredible movie, even if you weren't there. This

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Speaker 1: honor of this week's episode on Kobe Bryant me reading

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