Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where it doesn't take much for
Speaker 1: us to get back on the Travis Hunter hype train.
Speaker 1: I'm Greg Rosenthal. I never jumped off. Yeah, I'm there
Speaker 1: for life. Here for life.
Speaker 2: Chris Westling's podcast studio.
Speaker 1: It includes Patrick Claybon. On this fine Monday, I'm Drean Camp.
Speaker 1: What's happening?
Speaker 2: Not much? Just like you, Greg, I never left. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think people are amazed at this idea that this
Speaker 3: twenty two year old would turn twenty three and he
Speaker 3: would add body mouse.
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is all a part of the plan.
Speaker 3: This is how things progress and grow, and I'm excited
Speaker 3: to see first team All Pro cornerback Travis Hunter.
Speaker 1: Let's go with like six hundred yards and five touchdowns,
Speaker 1: but about eleven jaw dropping plays at wide receiver. How
Speaker 1: about that as a season?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's icing. I don't even know if
Speaker 3: that's icing. It's decoration.
Speaker 1: Oh I think. But the cake is thero cornerback. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair, let's just get into it. We taped the
Speaker 1: show Sunday evening. Thank you to everyone who checked that out.
Speaker 1: That show went through the NFC teams and what's happened
Speaker 1: at their training camp practices so far, so some notes,
Speaker 1: some takeaways on all the NFC teams. We're doing the work,
Speaker 1: we're digging through all the reporting, we're watching the press
Speaker 1: conferences to get you up to date. Today is the
Speaker 1: AFC and yes, we were live on Sunday night, and
Speaker 1: you can join us live on Thursday night to do
Speaker 1: some camp recaps and Hall of Fame game recap after
Speaker 1: that ends around eight pm Eastern. Let's start with those Jaguars.
Speaker 1: Why not Travis Hunter through the first four to five
Speaker 1: days of training camp and as we're taping Monday, for
Speaker 1: most teams in the NFL, it is the first day
Speaker 1: that pads have come on, so that's a big day.
Speaker 1: Although writers everyone gets excited the real football starts, including
Speaker 1: in Jacksonville, but over the weekend and the pads weren't
Speaker 1: on yet. But he had what John Shipley, our friend
Speaker 1: at SI dot com who gets me up to date
Speaker 1: on Jaguar just read his stuff and I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm there, said it was Travis Hunter's best day as
Speaker 1: a pro on the field. Not only two long catches
Speaker 1: on offense and one that they had on video that
Speaker 1: highlight grab where he just leaps up, but also a
Speaker 1: really exciting interception of Trevor Lawrence where we're not a
Speaker 1: great idea by Lawrence into coverage a lot of defenders there,
Speaker 1: but a beautiful play where Travis Hunter steps in front
Speaker 1: of the ball. And so so far through you know,
Speaker 1: four or five days of camp, he's playing more defense
Speaker 1: than offense. But I would say a significant amount of
Speaker 1: offense each day. I even, you know, people are keeping
Speaker 1: track of the snaps, it's probably about sixty five seventy
Speaker 1: percent defense thirty thirty five percent offense. And so really
Speaker 1: cool to see those highlights. If you're watching us on YouTube,
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Subscribe, Like, let's listen to Travis Hunter talk
Speaker 1: to our friend Judy Batista as part of Back Together Weekend,
Speaker 1: talking about that weight you mentioned earlier in your mind,
Speaker 1: how many snaps a game?
Speaker 3: Do you want to be playing all the odd so you're.
Speaker 2: Gonna go nuts when you're out of the game and
Speaker 2: just watching.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can't just watch the game, that is Judy,
Speaker 1: And yeah, he just wants to play as much as
Speaker 1: humanly possible. And yeah, earlier in the interview he mentioned
Speaker 1: the ten pounds of weight, and yet he seems to
Speaker 1: be moving even faster, Like you can even see it
Speaker 1: watching him last year. I mean, he he's a young kid,
Speaker 1: you know, and he's growing into his body, and I'm
Speaker 1: all in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's very, very difficult to put on mass as
Speaker 3: your Travis Hunter doing what he did in college. Like
Speaker 3: it's exceedingly difficult to to take the time to eat enough, uh,
Speaker 3: and then to do all of the things that he
Speaker 3: was doing.
Speaker 1: Plus like one hundred and twenty steps a game. You
Speaker 1: got to lose some weight down that.
Speaker 3: Well, and so like to get to this process that
Speaker 3: to have the injury not getting a made Travis Hunter
Speaker 3: better in no capacity. I will never ever say that,
Speaker 3: but you could see the dedication that he takes in.
Speaker 2: Devotion to training.
Speaker 3: And I'm again, I don't know how much more emphatic
Speaker 3: I could be about like my hopes for Travis Hunter.
Speaker 3: I just hope that, you know, he's able to stay
Speaker 3: out there on the field and you know, sometimes going
Speaker 3: up for those fifty to fifty balls makes me a
Speaker 3: little worried about.
Speaker 1: And he caught about three of them on different sides
Speaker 1: of the ball on Saturday, so that's really cool. I
Speaker 1: like also that because of the roster construction, they needed
Speaker 1: more on defense. I think he's cornerback one for that
Speaker 1: team in the end and at wide receiver. Parker Washington,
Speaker 1: you know, according to Shipley has probably been wide receiver
Speaker 1: one just in terms of volume, and Jacoby Myers has
Speaker 1: had a few drops and like off just slow start.
Speaker 1: I'm not worried about Jacoby Myers. Brian Thomas is doing
Speaker 1: Brian Thomas things. Hunter is going to be sprinkled in
Speaker 1: a little more. What do you think of Parker Washington
Speaker 1: and this offense being back like with so much depth.
Speaker 1: You got Breton Strain, Now you've got a second round
Speaker 1: tight end. You have layers to this offense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's very exciting.
Speaker 3: You want to see how you know, in terms of
Speaker 3: basal Tuton he's going to fill in for each hand,
Speaker 3: but with Parker Washington number one thing, and you know,
Speaker 3: shout out to Parker Washington. He joined us on the inside.
Speaker 3: He's a great guest. Asked him potentially because he's going
Speaker 3: to be unrestricted for your agent next year. I'd be
Speaker 3: interested if to see if Gladstone is willing and the
Speaker 3: Jags and Liam Coleman are willing to just put something
Speaker 3: out there to go ahead and have Parker Washington here
Speaker 3: long term because it does for you up to have
Speaker 3: Travis Hunter play cornerback and not have all these reps
Speaker 3: a wide receiver, and it seems like the money might
Speaker 3: be there and it may not because it's going to
Speaker 3: be crazy at the end of the year. Parker was
Speaker 3: right season that he has it's going to be nuts.
Speaker 3: He's going to be you know, chief or something. Who knows.
Speaker 1: He was drafted in the sixth round and teams are
Speaker 1: always trying to get discounts those late round picks, Like
Speaker 1: he's not going to sign one of those Jalen Koker
Speaker 1: tape contracts. At this point, he's gonna get paid. You mentioned,
Speaker 1: you know, the rest of the offense, Basil Tuton. He
Speaker 1: was declared like a big winner of the first week camp,
Speaker 1: partly just because Chris Rodriguez hasn't been out there as much.
Speaker 1: He's the other competition at running back, but he was
Speaker 1: back in team drills. As we head into a new week,
Speaker 1: they appear to maybe have a new starter at guard.
Speaker 1: They paid Patrick McCary a lot of money last year,
Speaker 1: but there's a young man, Wyatt Millam is taking the
Speaker 1: first team reps. Well, mccary's getting over an injury and
Speaker 1: he just might stay there. Two rookies that were taking
Speaker 1: late in the draft, Josh Cameron and CJ. Williams, are
Speaker 1: reportedly playing really well and look like they're gonna make
Speaker 1: the roster. That's sort of what I was getting. What
Speaker 1: is really deep does make you wonder a little bit
Speaker 1: about if you were going to trade Brian Thomas junior
Speaker 1: at some point like next year. That sort of depth
Speaker 1: would make that easier to make happen. And then their
Speaker 1: left tackle Cole Van Landon just wanted to mention he
Speaker 1: was on the pup list. If you listen to Sunday Show,
Speaker 1: you might have remembered Ben Johnson getting a little spicy
Speaker 1: about how the Bears were regression candidates. Didn't exactly say
Speaker 1: to Liam Cohen, keep my name out your mouth when
Speaker 1: he started talking about Caleb Williams all over NFL dot com.
Speaker 1: But here is that clip from Leam Cohen talking about
Speaker 1: NFL dot com dot com and the great work that
Speaker 1: our friends are doing over there.
Speaker 2: You're right.
Speaker 4: You know what I said to the staff the other
Speaker 4: day was I go, guys, is the best part of
Speaker 4: coaching the Jacksonville Jaguars. You don't have to make up
Speaker 4: telling your players stuff. You don't have to make up
Speaker 4: the fire. You don't have to make it up. It's
Speaker 4: given to us every day, and it's like a well,
Speaker 4: it's a gift from the heavens, from you know.
Speaker 2: You just scroll.
Speaker 5: I just go pull off my phone, look at the
Speaker 5: NFL Network website and just pop up here and surious.
Speaker 5: If I see any photos or anything about the Jacksonville Jaguars,
Speaker 5: I think I'll just scroll right on through. I think
Speaker 5: I'll see forty pictures of Caleb Williams and I won't
Speaker 5: see single thing about any of our players on here.
Speaker 1: It's so it's beautiful because like jack guys.
Speaker 2: This is great. Thanks keeps on giving.
Speaker 4: You gonna tell all these guys how much you all
Speaker 4: think they suck.
Speaker 1: WHOA courtesy of ten ten XL, great radio station that
Speaker 1: employs my old friend Mike Dempsey. Wow, thoughts you were
Speaker 1: animated watching that?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, it's it's fun because I love it that it's
Speaker 3: kind of not kind of directly I run because the
Speaker 3: Jacksonville Jaguars are fun and interesting team to talk about
Speaker 3: that I feel like that we do all the time.
Speaker 3: And I guess that's that's not everybody. And you know,
Speaker 3: Liam Cohen is very busy. He has a football team
Speaker 3: to coach, so he may not be as a tune.
Speaker 3: But there's the first, second, third, twenty ninth, twenty eighth.
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm on NFL dot com, which the search feature, yeah,
Speaker 3: can be very limited, but I'm I'm back. I'm all
Speaker 3: the way through June twenty third. Okay, I don't see
Speaker 3: a day where there wasn't some form of Jackson.
Speaker 1: I don't see a lot of Jags though. And to
Speaker 1: his point, there are a couple of Bears articles in
Speaker 1: the stack right now, you know, talking about Luther Burden
Speaker 1: and whatnot. We do have a team preview with Jaguars,
Speaker 1: you're right. Lower down, we have browns covered. We have
Speaker 1: some charge.
Speaker 3: I just like that, like Harvest to perceive slight. They
Speaker 3: are able to on any stretch. And Liam Cohen is
Speaker 3: very gifted at that.
Speaker 2: And here's the thing. I don't think he's pretending.
Speaker 1: He genuinely seems annoyed all the time about the lack
Speaker 1: like he I don't know, it's funny. I just like
Speaker 1: this this long running bit that he has that no
Speaker 1: one pays anything Jaguars. He's not totally wrong for such
Speaker 1: a promising young team who won that many games last year.
Speaker 1: They're relatively under the raidar, But who cares about who's
Speaker 1: under the raider?
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think the people in the community who
Speaker 3: see their their team shipped off all the time they
Speaker 3: lose a home game, they feel a little bit slighter.
Speaker 3: They live in the largest land mass city in the
Speaker 3: United States of America and routinely get disregarded for areas
Speaker 3: that don't necessarily have the size or maybe even the
Speaker 3: cultural impact that Jacklville can have, which I think gets
Speaker 3: slept on for him to capture that feeling that a
Speaker 3: lot of people in that community have who are kind
Speaker 3: of you, especially by the Jacksonville Sheriff's office, kind of
Speaker 3: downtrodden upon.
Speaker 2: They can feel that way.
Speaker 3: I don't necessarily know that the jackson and there you
Speaker 3: know that we have disregarded.
Speaker 1: Them, not here on NFL Daily certainly. In fact, we
Speaker 1: just spent ten minutes talking about the Jaguars and we're
Speaker 1: hitting fifteen. We're hitting all sixteen teams. I can promise
Speaker 1: you Jaguars fans, you got talked about more. And Liam,
Speaker 1: I hope you see this. We had you on NFL Daily.
Speaker 1: He was a great guest. No, you will be talked
Speaker 1: about more on this particular episode, which includes every AFC
Speaker 1: team more than any other team. We're not going that
Speaker 1: long in any NFEA. So there you go. Let's stay
Speaker 1: in the AFC South. The Texans. The Texans signed Genevian Clowney.
Speaker 1: I mentioned it briefly Sunday night, but we you know,
Speaker 1: we were talking NFC five point five million. It's up
Speaker 1: to eight million. Weirdly assigning. I think they kind of needed.
Speaker 1: There was a huge drop. I know that sounds crazy
Speaker 1: when they have the best edge rusher duo in the
Speaker 1: entire NFL and Willie Anderson and Daniel Hunter, but the
Speaker 1: fall off was crazy. They didn't they didn't have much
Speaker 1: depth there and now you got Clowney coming off like
Speaker 1: an eight and a half tax season. Returning to where
Speaker 1: it all started, Patrick, the location of the first Texans
Speaker 1: playoff victory in franchise history that I was at in
Speaker 1: which no question about it. The MVP of that game
Speaker 1: by far was Jadevian Clowney, which is why one of
Speaker 1: many reasons why. And he also was like a second
Speaker 1: team All Pro one year. Like people kind of sleeped
Speaker 1: that he was very good for the Texans. It was
Speaker 1: a good number one overall draftick. Very cool to see
Speaker 1: him back with that team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to the extent where I wondered if there
Speaker 3: was any overlap between him and Dimico when Dimiko was playing,
Speaker 3: but there was a three year gap because he had
Speaker 3: left the Texans in twenty eleven and Clowney was drafted
Speaker 3: in twenty fourteen. But obviously, you know, was a tuned
Speaker 3: to the franchise during his time in Philly and then
Speaker 3: his post playing coaching career, where one of the superpowers
Speaker 3: of Jadevion Clowney was being able to kick inside and
Speaker 3: not necessarily have any amount of like significant falloff when
Speaker 3: being behaving as an interior rusher. And so the prospect
Speaker 3: of not just having him come in in relief of
Speaker 3: Hunter or Anderson, but to have all three of them
Speaker 3: on the field. And again this isn't twenty sixteen Jadeveon Clowney,
Speaker 3: but for four or five reps late in the game
Speaker 3: when you're trying to throw the ball.
Speaker 1: Yikes, I mean, he's a third best pass rusher. Was
Speaker 1: still very productive the last few years. Never left Houston,
Speaker 1: by the way, kept his home there throughout, like a
Speaker 1: lot of players, players left Houston. They love living in Houston.
Speaker 3: And you've remarked several times about how you like this,
Speaker 3: like late Stage revs.
Speaker 2: Yes is Late Career by Jadevion Clowney.
Speaker 1: Where people say, oh, well, first of all, he had
Speaker 1: a couple, he had like a microfractor surgery, had all
Speaker 1: sorts of you know, physical problems. People said, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: he love the game or whatever. I mean, he's still
Speaker 1: loving that game thirteen years in. What a team might
Speaker 1: have to pick them to make the Super Bowl. They
Speaker 1: have a first round guard in Kayln Rutledge. Is that
Speaker 1: the first day of training camp there was like a
Speaker 1: highlight of him like blocking twenty yards downfield. Seth Payne,
Speaker 1: who I listened to some of his YouTube content, has
Speaker 1: noted the run game probably has stood out more than
Speaker 1: anything that the run game looks a little more cohesive.
Speaker 1: They're a little deeper on the offensive line, maybe understanding
Speaker 1: what to do. David Montgomery reportedly looking pretty good in
Speaker 1: pass pro and in the receiving game. And it's him
Speaker 1: and Woody Marks one A, one B. You have Jayden
Speaker 1: Higgins getting a lot of buzz potentially making a leap.
Speaker 1: Tank Dell is out there ramping up, not doing everything
Speaker 1: all the time, and we'll see if he's in there
Speaker 1: with pads but doing teamwork like he's not that limited.
Speaker 1: Jalen Noel, their second year receiver, has been out for
Speaker 1: a few weeks. And then you throw in a this
Speaker 1: rookie Marlin Klein, who the coaches are talking up just
Speaker 1: in terms of guy that he moves different than the
Speaker 1: rest of our tight ends. Little shot there at Dalton Schultz,
Speaker 1: but yeah, add it all up and it's it's potential
Speaker 1: for a more dynamic Texans offense.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think back because it was a two
Speaker 3: stage surgery for Tank Dell because he had the LCL,
Speaker 3: the meniscus, the MCL. He had that surgery and then
Speaker 3: did rehab on that, then he finished it off with
Speaker 3: the ACL surgery. So that's why you go twenty twenty
Speaker 3: four to now where you know, hopefully get him back
Speaker 3: out there and healthy and give C. J. Stroud another
Speaker 3: player that he feels comfortable with, the like Dalton Schultz
Speaker 3: is a part of that. I don't know why Dalton
Speaker 3: Schultz is catching sneak dishes, sneak.
Speaker 1: Not at all. He was a great guest too. I
Speaker 1: really liked it. I felt really bad. I've never talked
Speaker 1: to a player that had taken a playoff loss harder
Speaker 1: that where the loss was like two or three weeks old.
Speaker 1: And it's a real thing. And I think, I know
Speaker 1: you're not necessarily always fully buying in on chipwatch, but
Speaker 1: how about a team wide chip here. You know this
Speaker 1: is a team that's knocking on the door.
Speaker 3: Well, I think that they are a team that's uniquely
Speaker 3: aware of where things went wrong and it gives them
Speaker 3: that capacity to directly address those things because they have
Speaker 3: the talent. Right, there's a whole lot of people that
Speaker 3: could be very well aware, right how things went wrong
Speaker 3: when they don't necessarily have the ability to overcome that
Speaker 3: the Texans do.
Speaker 2: And it's just it's going to take this. You know.
Speaker 3: The way that we talk about the Bengals defense is
Speaker 3: kind of how I feel about the Texans offense, where
Speaker 3: it's like, man, they just need to be somewhat all right.
Speaker 3: I think this group can be better than someone al right.
Speaker 1: Because they have a better than average quarterback. In my mind,
Speaker 1: and again, our guy Seth Pain, we're two members of
Speaker 1: the Seth Heads, said CJ just looking more comfortable in
Speaker 1: this second year in the system. Thought his accuracy, which
Speaker 1: his calling card just weirdly wasn't there last training camp
Speaker 1: and for a lot of last year was just like
Speaker 1: a little up and down in that it's been better.
Speaker 1: Good news too, is Derek Stingley is fine after a
Speaker 1: collision that didn't look great, which made me so happy
Speaker 1: because nothing worse than that happening in practice, but especially
Speaker 1: made me happy because the guy who ran into him
Speaker 1: and didn't look great was the same guy Dared Wayne
Speaker 1: who ran into Tank Dell in that game that injured him.
Speaker 2: So glad to hear everyone is healthy.
Speaker 6: There.
Speaker 1: Let's go to the Titans. I'm into omens. We've got
Speaker 1: some other first play analysis in this program. The first
Speaker 1: two plays of Titans training camp fall start terrible, terrible,
Speaker 1: Omen what four and thirteen? You can't have fall starts here?
Speaker 1: Your first two plays of camp?
Speaker 2: I just that's it. Give me two separate players. You've
Speaker 2: you know, every grouping gets a certain part of me.
Speaker 1: I get it. But that's why it's an omen. It's
Speaker 1: it's not necessarily logical. But that sounds that sounds bad
Speaker 1: to me. You know what sounds better is Will love
Speaker 1: US's confidence, who was at the podium saying there aren't
Speaker 1: thirty two better quarterbacks than me. Just a reminder, Will
Speaker 1: love Is still on this roster. He's going to be
Speaker 1: battling with Mitchell Trubisky for the backup job at Trubisky's
Speaker 1: been injured. The practice reports from Paul Koharski, for instance,
Speaker 1: and indicate he doesn't think Will Levis has looked any
Speaker 1: better than he did in the past, still making the
Speaker 1: same mistake. So Levis confident, but has had a kind
Speaker 1: of star cross career. If people don't remember the second
Speaker 1: round pick who started a lot of games that second year.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean save throwing the ball off his helmet
Speaker 3: backwards six times in practice. I think it's going to
Speaker 3: be difficult to see a whether it's growth or regression
Speaker 3: for Will will Levis in a situation like that, clearly
Speaker 3: a player.
Speaker 2: That has the talent to be out there on the field.
Speaker 3: But I would be interested, you know, if we want
Speaker 3: to play the five quarterbacks that you know are worse
Speaker 3: than Will Levis, it's.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's not in the top thirty two. I did
Speaker 1: a top thirty two, and for that list, I had
Speaker 1: about a top forty and who players I would comfortably
Speaker 1: put ahead of Levis, And yeah, he was not on
Speaker 1: that list. I didn't realize our crack producer, Eric Roberts
Speaker 1: just killing it. He's doing the video, he's doing the sound,
Speaker 1: actually has this Lewis sound. I didn't even realize that.
Speaker 1: So let's let's just listen to it. Why not.
Speaker 7: I don't need to go out there and win X
Speaker 7: amount of games before I can feel the confidence, like
Speaker 7: I have the confidence right now if I know I've
Speaker 7: put the tape out there already that I'm a you know,
Speaker 7: dang good quarterback in this league and I'm even better
Speaker 7: than I ever have been.
Speaker 8: So still the faith that you have a future as
Speaker 8: a start.
Speaker 7: I know I'm you know, I think I'm there. There
Speaker 7: are not thirty two quarterbacks in this leap better than me.
Speaker 2: I know that for sure. Shout out to context.
Speaker 3: I feel completely different about the quote because Eric has
Speaker 3: provided us with the context where he's being hounded by
Speaker 3: the folks there in Nashville who are great at their jobs,
Speaker 3: where it's like, hey, hey, do you hate yourself?
Speaker 2: How hard is it to sleep knowing that you are asked.
Speaker 3: Right and it's like you you eventually have to defend
Speaker 3: yourself with some people. Yeah, I think I'm good at this.
Speaker 3: If I didn't think I'm good at this, I wouldn't
Speaker 3: be doing it.
Speaker 1: It is good at it on a relative scale, just
Speaker 1: maybe not to start right now. But yeah, that became
Speaker 1: big headlines. A lot of Taj Spears reportedly at practice
Speaker 1: and this Green game. He's finally healthy for once. He's
Speaker 1: a guy that he's going to just kind of have
Speaker 1: to prove he can stay healthy to combine with Tony
Speaker 1: Pollard in that backfield, Calvin Ridley, who everyone's forgotten about,
Speaker 1: still out there with the first team, Carnel Tait reportedly
Speaker 1: doing his thing. Elec Iomannor sounds like he's had a
Speaker 1: good second camp. So it's probably him or Calvin Ridley
Speaker 1: as the number re receiver on that team, but a
Speaker 1: much better group when you have Wandel Robinson in the mix.
Speaker 1: I think Jamiri dk who people might remember was a
Speaker 1: return guy more. It seems like maybe he's getting a
Speaker 1: little left behind at receiver and is going to be
Speaker 1: more just like a gadget guy. Let's go to the Colts.
Speaker 1: Daniel Jones doing everything. Had a practice on Saturday where
Speaker 1: he was fourteen for seventeen. This isn't something where like
Speaker 1: Riley Leonard's getting in the mix here or Anthony Richardson, Like, no,
Speaker 1: everything is it's all Daniel Jones all the time. Full
Speaker 1: Go has reportedly looked like Daniel Jones, no sign of
Speaker 1: of what happened. Obviously you want to see him in
Speaker 1: game time, but yeah, the battle is Leonard versus Richardson,
Speaker 1: and reportly, Leonard hasn't looked like amazing so far, so
Speaker 1: I think I think Anthony Richardson could actually be on
Speaker 1: this roster as their backup.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and to see growth on both of their parts.
Speaker 3: And it's not necessarily going to be a linear thing.
Speaker 3: Guys can can come up and step back. But just
Speaker 3: glad to see that the DOMS is able to be
Speaker 3: out there and hopefully when people start hitting, he's able
Speaker 3: to stay out there.
Speaker 1: I think one of the most important things that happened
Speaker 1: in the first week of training camp is all this
Speaker 1: confirmation about where Daniel Jones is at because I guess
Speaker 1: I needed to see it and I know it's going
Speaker 1: to be different when he's playing week one and everything,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna be there.
Speaker 3: There was such a diminished version of him towards the
Speaker 3: end of the season that I think like the bar
Speaker 3: for how good Daniel Jones can be. Like, maybe we're
Speaker 3: viewing it differently because he was playing on a broken leg,
Speaker 3: which is insane.
Speaker 2: Still, if they even.
Speaker 1: Say, yeah, his friends maybe not helping him out with
Speaker 1: making that brace for him or whatever, that they get
Speaker 1: a lot of love.
Speaker 3: Sometimes did people like invest in that, Yeah, it's like
Speaker 3: there's a power balanced bracelet or whatever, Like, what are
Speaker 3: we doing the holocron crystal.
Speaker 1: I'm not trusting my friends for anything medical.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's a special.
Speaker 3: Bracelet lets him play with It's like the bracelet Batman
Speaker 3: had in the last Nolan movie whereas knee is all
Speaker 3: better and he kicks a wall that kicks a hole
Speaker 3: in the stone wall.
Speaker 2: Anyway, that what you want.
Speaker 1: Sometimes I see or hear like a practice report of
Speaker 1: a particular play and it really just catches my fancy.
Speaker 1: And one of them was Josh Downs, who I love.
Speaker 1: You know, they don't really have a great second outside receiver.
Speaker 1: It's mostly Nick Westbrook Aquina right now, but Josh Downs
Speaker 1: is really wide receiver too, mostly going to be playing
Speaker 1: out the slot. But there there was like a couple
Speaker 1: reps where Daniel Jones tried to go to Josh Downs
Speaker 1: playing on the outside and they said the five how
Speaker 1: tall is Josh Downs? Five nine?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think five listed at five to ten.
Speaker 1: Right, so he's probably a little shorter. Just getting engulfed
Speaker 1: by like monster six' Three sasgardner with those long arms
Speaker 1: and just like get Sast carter giving him no. Chance
Speaker 1: he's like literally like six seven inches taller and and.
Speaker 1: Longer and but that's just a, Reminder, oh Sasce gardner
Speaker 1: on this. Team so that's great to hear a lot
Speaker 1: of their guys who were out last. Year Tarvarius ward, healthy,
Speaker 1: strong starts to. CAMP. Cj allen missed a couple of.
Speaker 1: Days they're a rookie linebacker to. Camp he's back and immediately.
Speaker 1: Starting so just, yeah Like Kevin, sascard did you get
Speaker 1: the confirmation on the?
Speaker 3: Size, yeah combine measurement was five eighths and three quarters
Speaker 3: of an.
Speaker 2: Inch, Mate maybe he's come up since THEY i doubt.
Speaker 1: It also a kicker Battle Spencer strader Versus blake groupie
Speaker 1: WHERE i will predict both kickers Or week one starter.
Speaker 3: Somewhere that's a good kicker. Battle, wait that's. Better so
Speaker 3: you've got them both starting. Somewhere who wins an indie groupie, groopye,
Speaker 3: yeah unanimous on.
Speaker 1: Group let's take a. Break we're gonna do THE Afc
Speaker 1: west after the. Break chiefs have had a lot of.
Speaker 1: Injuries maybe they aren't as bad as people, think and
Speaker 1: we'll hit the rest of THE Afc WEST Afc east
Speaker 1: in just a. Minute back ON Nfl, daily the pads
Speaker 1: are on big part of this year is this guy's
Speaker 1: coming off. Injury do they got it yet or or they.
Speaker 1: Don't like with The, chiefs For Shehee, rice who had
Speaker 1: that surgery, before he spent some time in, jail he's
Speaker 1: still working his way back from that knee. Injury he's
Speaker 1: not really. Ready he's doing some things At chiefs, camp
Speaker 1: not all, things and they're working on. Him Patrick, mahomes
Speaker 1: on the other, hand it's all, gas no, breaks a
Speaker 1: lot of, hype and they seem to have the most
Speaker 1: videos of any team on the internet because they don't
Speaker 1: have any. Restrictions some teams put the restrictions. On it's
Speaker 1: a lot Of Patrick mahomes running. AROUND i know he's
Speaker 1: got a little compression, sleeve but he looks. Good i'm
Speaker 1: believing the. Hype are you believing the?
Speaker 3: Hype, yeah the brace looks like it's more of the.
Speaker 3: Encumbrance And i'm sure there's gonna be some conversations about
Speaker 3: whether or not he plays in that, brace BUT i, think,
Speaker 3: yeah He's Patrick. Mahomes you, know eighty Five Patrick. Mahomes
Speaker 3: it's gonna better than ninety nine percent of the.
Speaker 1: Planet there's something about the career arc of it all
Speaker 1: that for a guy to, me that's an all time
Speaker 1: great coming off the TORN acl and having like a
Speaker 1: really in off of a down couple year, statistically it
Speaker 1: just makes sense in the career arc of it, All
Speaker 1: like when we're in ten years talking about oh, YEAH
Speaker 1: i remember When mahomes came back after THE acl and was,
Speaker 1: like you, know won THE. Mvp LIKE i can just see.
Speaker 3: That so who's, who Says jimmy garoppolo in this because
Speaker 3: it happened, late there's No jimmy g because you're making
Speaker 3: A brady.
Speaker 1: Parallel, no not in, that not in that, way Because
Speaker 1: brady had his worst year coming off of TORN acl
Speaker 1: in a you, know in two thousand and nine if
Speaker 1: you wanted to, say but there were there were Various,
Speaker 1: brady you, know come ups after various scandals and. Whatnot
Speaker 1: i'm just, Saying I'M i JUST i think he's Gonna,
Speaker 1: YEAH i. Agree Xavier worthy hurt his shoulder again at.
Speaker 1: Practice that's a recurring. Injury he is expected back this
Speaker 1: week at some, point so it's not a long term.
Speaker 1: Injury but he's also a guy who who wasn't one
Speaker 1: hundred percent during Offseason OTA's and mini camps because he
Speaker 1: was still coming off that shoulder from a year. Ago
Speaker 1: he hurt that shoulder like as season. Started he dove
Speaker 1: for a PLAY i think he caught it On saturday
Speaker 1: and immediately gets hurt. Again that's. Tough it's hard to
Speaker 1: count on, him hard to count on Reci. Race Cyrus
Speaker 1: allen is a fifth round. Pick this is what training
Speaker 1: camp's all. About that was playing first team. Reps everyone's,
Speaker 1: saying Like Patrick mahomes loves this, kid that he might
Speaker 1: be starting for this, team like we'll. See but then
Speaker 1: left with a bone. Bruise and fortunately it's not more
Speaker 1: serious because that was one where he left on a.
Speaker 1: Cart So Jalen royals something to watch. There and Then
Speaker 1: Ken walker is there and that seems like the new
Speaker 1: fun toy That Andy reid is talking. About he's talking
Speaker 1: a lot About Ken walker's receiving ability and using him
Speaker 1: a lot in the screen. Game any thoughts on The Cyrus,
Speaker 1: allen the pass catchers in the in The chiefs orbit
Speaker 1: right now and how they're coming.
Speaker 2: Along, YEAH i.
Speaker 3: Think The, royals you, know not necessarily making all the
Speaker 3: plays that people.
Speaker 2: Want.
Speaker 3: Right some of it may be wishcasking because his, name
Speaker 3: because his name is perfect for a. RECEIVER i, think like.
Speaker 3: Worthy hopefully they're just being precautious with the shoulder injury
Speaker 3: because you, know it's one THING i go on, RECORD
Speaker 3: i say all the time where if you reaggravate an,
Speaker 3: injury it just means it was never healed in the first.
Speaker 2: Right but he's you, know he had surgery on in an.
Speaker 3: Offseason he was very effusive about how he was never
Speaker 3: really back from it last.
Speaker 2: Year so hopefully that is.
Speaker 1: Well the fact that the first time he hits the
Speaker 1: ground in the non tackling practice that it, Happens, yeah not.
Speaker 3: Great, yeah, again maybe it's just precautionary because they need.
Speaker 3: Him they need, him like it turned like the whole
Speaker 3: plane can't Be Travis kelce relying on rookies to do,
Speaker 3: it and with all That Kenneth walker can, do maybe
Speaker 3: the b enemy of it all run, game run game.
Speaker 2: Good he's involved in the screen.
Speaker 3: Game there's a whole lot of stuff that Just patrick
Speaker 3: And andy making things, go but they need guys to
Speaker 3: catch The.
Speaker 1: It's so early you never know what to make, of
Speaker 1: like defensive linemen getting pop and non padded. Practices But
Speaker 1: Peter woods Are Mason thomas where they're you, know first
Speaker 1: and second round, picks not counting Mansor delane, who by the,
Speaker 1: way has been in a non contact jersey coming off
Speaker 1: of his own, injury but has been out. There, yeah
Speaker 1: reports that they look good and that they're getting a
Speaker 1: lot of first team. Reps so just something to watch
Speaker 1: is their pass. Rushers and THEN i found that interesting
Speaker 1: that a man Named Khalil benson is getting most of
Speaker 1: the reps as the starting right, tackle so that this
Speaker 1: is SOMETHING i wouldn't have. Expected Andy reid more or
Speaker 1: less said, like we want to see him in the,
Speaker 1: game and if he keeps taking these, STEPS i think
Speaker 1: he's going to be their starting right tackle over a
Speaker 1: man Named Jalen, moore who they paid fifteen million dollars
Speaker 1: a year in free agency and kind of telling me
Speaker 1: they don't think that's working, out or Maybe Khalil benson
Speaker 1: is just. AWESOME i should view.
Speaker 3: It it just seems and they trust that they have
Speaker 3: a system that they can figure this.
Speaker 2: Out but they just bargain hunt at that.
Speaker 1: POSITION i, mean they paid fifteen million dollars a year
Speaker 1: for like a. Backup it just it just hasn't, worked
Speaker 1: and maybe they really found. Something they're. Good they have
Speaker 1: been good at identifying some of their their own. Guys
Speaker 1: he was an undrafted player and he might be the
Speaker 1: starting right tackle for The. Chiefs pretty amazing if that
Speaker 1: happens The broncos are on the. FIELD i enjoyed an
Speaker 1: interview Between Bo nix and our two great, Friends Steve
Speaker 1: weisch And Cynthia, freelan two of the biggest bow leavers
Speaker 1: in all of. Media Steve weis's been pushing For bo
Speaker 1: to make Quarterback. Island to check out that. Interview he's
Speaker 1: been full, practice full. Go he's out. There he's moving
Speaker 1: around a. Lot you see him like he it's good
Speaker 1: that he took the off season off to properly get.
Speaker 1: Better that he's going to be handing the ball off
Speaker 1: TO Jk, dobbins who wasn't The broncos first choice at
Speaker 1: running back this. Offseason they were in On Ken, walker
Speaker 1: they were may be in On Travis etn but they
Speaker 1: end up SIGNING. Jk. Dobbins they didn't want to go
Speaker 1: over a certain, Price and NOW. Jk dobbins is talking,
Speaker 1: big not about not just about being, healthy but being really.
Speaker 1: Productive you, know a.
Speaker 8: Lot of people always, say, oh he's he's good for
Speaker 8: the first ten. Weeks Like i'll be in the top
Speaker 8: three for the first ten, weeks, right and they'll they'll be, like,
Speaker 8: oh he's, dude he does this every. Time, well this,
Speaker 8: year forget a top. THREE i keep saying. It people
Speaker 8: Think i'm, crazy But i'm gonna be number one And
Speaker 8: i'm gonna keep it there for the whole.
Speaker 2: Year you, know seventeen.
Speaker 8: GAMES a lot of people always get mad WHEN i, say,
Speaker 8: yeah the injuries are over BECAUSE i said it last,
Speaker 8: year but that one was pretty.
Speaker 2: Fluky, right this, year.
Speaker 8: They won't be any and there won't be anything for
Speaker 8: anyone to say about my injuries Because i'm gonna play
Speaker 8: all seventeen games And i'm gonna get my team EVERYTHING
Speaker 8: i got for all seventeen, games AND i will be
Speaker 8: there for all seventeen. Games i'll pinky promise all of
Speaker 8: you right now about.
Speaker 3: That, yeah that's a big promise to. Make it's a
Speaker 3: very dangerous. Position that's a lot of. Pinkies, yeah to go.
Speaker 3: Around we're not social distancing. Anymore so you know they'll
Speaker 3: take care of that up there at the New broncos.
Speaker 3: Facility BUT i JUST i hope you know that when
Speaker 3: we do talk about players and getting and getting, INJURED
Speaker 3: i know there's there's some instances where you, know team
Speaker 3: training staffs and that you know they'll try to come
Speaker 3: out and say that the player didn't rehab properly or.
Speaker 3: Whatever this is a very dangerous. Game the guys play
Speaker 3: and the injuries are. Not nobody's going out there. Trying
Speaker 3: Jacob dobbins has not tried to get.
Speaker 1: Hurt not that many running backs play a seventeen weeks
Speaker 1: AND i.
Speaker 2: WOULD i would razon LIKE i would disagree WITH jk.
Speaker 3: THERE i think all of a lot of his injuries
Speaker 3: have been, fluky like they all are because it's a
Speaker 3: it's a dangerous game with a lot of. Variables BUT
Speaker 3: i hope he is able to play everything, games because
Speaker 3: when he, plays he's very.
Speaker 1: GOOD i love that he used the rhetorical. DEVICE i
Speaker 1: didn't realize THAT i used so much UNTIL i started
Speaker 1: hosting a podcast and re listening to. It sometimes where
Speaker 1: you put sort of the imaginary in a gallery and be, like,
Speaker 1: oh and they say all the time, that, oh he's
Speaker 1: not going to do it through ten he was the
Speaker 1: only healthy through ten, weeks and then he gets.
Speaker 2: HURT i like, That, yeah me AND.
Speaker 3: Jk and it's almost always true because the attention economy
Speaker 3: drives so much of what everybody does, now and being
Speaker 3: antagonistic is.
Speaker 2: The way to get a whole bunch of energy and.
Speaker 1: Attention it's just a good way to attack. Them you
Speaker 1: don't have someone, specific but then you put in a
Speaker 1: funny voice a little, bit it's not, you you're coming at.
Speaker 1: Him chef's. Kiss Jonathan cooper is practicing for this. Team
Speaker 1: he is facing domestic violence charges and there was some
Speaker 1: real thought that they might cut. HIM i heard some.
Speaker 1: Whispers we'll see it didn't. Happen he's out. There the
Speaker 1: team says they're essentially supporting him and gonna see what.
Speaker 1: Happens in the. Process they are talking Up jonah ellis
Speaker 1: a little bit as kind of the next edge up
Speaker 1: If cooper is. Suspended Ben powers is there as a starting,
Speaker 1: guard according to their Coach John, payton who figures to
Speaker 1: be In canton later this week With Drew brees getting.
Speaker 1: Inducted i'm sure he's gonna make his way. Over we
Speaker 1: know he's the one presenting, him which is you on,
Speaker 1: video but he's going to be the guy probably to
Speaker 1: unveil that, bus which is really. Cool Sean payton Said
Speaker 1: Ben powers he expects to be their, starter even though
Speaker 1: they made him take a massive pay cut to stay
Speaker 1: after he played through an injury THAT i think required.
Speaker 1: Surgery that's what, happens like there's there's no right way
Speaker 1: to handle these. Injuries and THEN i thought it was
Speaker 1: interesting in that interview that WITH Nfl Network Sean payton
Speaker 1: kind of indicated Maybe Taysom hill reunion with The.
Speaker 2: Broncos Taysom hill would have had The broncos in The Super.
Speaker 1: Bowl Taysom hills had some crazy serious, injuries SO i
Speaker 1: get that they have a close. RELATIONSHIP i, Mean Sean
Speaker 1: payton helped Make Taysom hill a very rich man In
Speaker 1: New orleans and probably going to give him a, shot
Speaker 1: but his body looked like it had had enough. Football we'll.
Speaker 1: See let's go to The raiders first day of training.
Speaker 1: Camp the takeaway Was Bernando mendoza just looked more comfortable
Speaker 1: under center and in, general the people that have come
Speaker 1: Through greatest campus, said, okay he he has looked like as.
Speaker 1: Advertised according To Albert breer was another guy that went through.
Speaker 1: There he did reportedly have a bad Day. SUNDAY i
Speaker 1: think it was ESPN's beat writer said it was probably
Speaker 1: his worst day of. Camp you, know you're gonna have
Speaker 1: your ups in your. Downs you don't need to be
Speaker 1: tracking it each. Day BUT i, think so, far so
Speaker 1: good With Fernando. Mendoza did you happen to see The
Speaker 1: Kirk cousins video of him the doing suicid?
Speaker 2: Suicides, yeah YEAH i. DID i don't know.
Speaker 1: If that made me think Maybe mendoz is starting.
Speaker 3: EARLIER i Think kirk got got on that because he's
Speaker 3: not he's not selling out.
Speaker 2: THERE i THINK i know he's not selling. Out but even, then,
Speaker 2: yeah it's warm.
Speaker 3: Ups maybe he got there a little bit, late like
Speaker 3: he had breakfast or picked the kids off from school
Speaker 3: or something.
Speaker 2: Like who.
Speaker 1: Knows he looked like it's so rare that you see
Speaker 1: a professional athlete just look like a normal. Guy but
Speaker 1: he just looked like a normal forty year old guy right.
Speaker 1: There like If i'm out, there sometimes we go to
Speaker 1: the local middle school and we'll just like throw the
Speaker 1: football a little bit and. Shoots they have they have
Speaker 1: a nice like football field that's kind of like open
Speaker 1: sometimes and there's people playing soccer or. Whatever like IF
Speaker 1: i saw just like another guy doing you, know warming,
Speaker 1: up doing, that that would make sense to. Me it's
Speaker 1: just like an average. Guy that's What Kirk cousins look.
Speaker 1: Like and you gotta try to be At. MENDOZA i don't.
Speaker 3: KNOW i JUST i don't think there's enough evidence To, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Twelve second video is Kirk cousin?
Speaker 1: Fair maybe training camp is all about learning about guys
Speaker 1: you never heard, of like when you're talking draft And
Speaker 1: jermad McCoy is a huge story And i'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to see what kind of career he. Has the fourth
Speaker 1: round pick From. Tennessee right, now he's still working his way,
Speaker 1: back practicing but not taking all the, reps and he's
Speaker 1: with the second or third. Team no surprise there but
Speaker 1: one of the guys taken after him by This raiders
Speaker 1: front office is not only battling for a starting, job
Speaker 1: is getting like the first first team reps most, days
Speaker 1: a fifth round pick by the name Of Hezekiah masses
Speaker 1: battling last year's, Pick Darien. Porter but the fact that
Speaker 1: they put him out there, FIRST i think on a
Speaker 1: couple of the first days of camp as like the first.
Speaker 1: Guy it's, Like, okay that's the. Thing sometimes you get
Speaker 1: these day three guys and they just impressed the hell
Speaker 1: out of, you and the off season the coaches are,
Speaker 1: like all, right let's give this guy a, Shot like
Speaker 1: that might be their starting, cornerback just a NOTE i
Speaker 1: want to throw out.
Speaker 3: There, Yeah and that's the thing where you have a
Speaker 3: different staff come, In like the evaluations are not going
Speaker 3: to be hindered by any sort of sunk costs, fallacy
Speaker 3: and it's, like all, right who are the best guys
Speaker 3: for us to get in?
Speaker 1: There they do have a thin, secondary especially at, cornerback
Speaker 1: so like that is an area WHERE i Think Bo
Speaker 1: nicks And Patrick mahomes And Justin herbert in this division
Speaker 1: are going to be looking at that position and thinking
Speaker 1: can we take advantage of these. Guys you, know you
Speaker 1: can't take advantage of The tokyo Tow Consei, matchizawa who's
Speaker 1: out there trying to become a week one starting, kicker
Speaker 1: was a sensation in college At, hawaii one of the
Speaker 1: best kickers in the you, know all of college. Football last.
Speaker 1: Year he's Battling Matt. Gay that's just a fun kicker.
Speaker 1: BATTLE i just wanted to point out he missed like
Speaker 1: a fifty something yarder The tokyo to On. Sunday but,
Speaker 1: yeah that's a. Battle that's a cool. Battle, yeah and that's.
Speaker 1: ALL i don't have any. Take it's nice to have
Speaker 1: it out. There it's nice to have a new name
Speaker 1: in these kicker.
Speaker 3: Battles, yeah between the guys that are going to be
Speaker 3: on three or four different teams over the course the.
Speaker 1: Next gas bounced around in recent.
Speaker 2: Years, yeah it's good to have a new addition to
Speaker 2: the kicker battle.
Speaker 1: Lineup and you know what we can confirm is that
Speaker 1: both those guys not, turns and that's because The raiders
Speaker 1: are a turd free facility.
Speaker 2: Camp is there.
Speaker 5: Anything that you're pleasantly surprised.
Speaker 2: By something maybe you didn't expect to be as.
Speaker 9: Far as you, ARE i think we just have a
Speaker 9: professional group of. Players you, know they care about getting.
Speaker 9: Better you, know we don't have any. Turds we got
Speaker 9: gets THAT i want to be, here that want to,
Speaker 9: win that want to change this. Place and So i'm
Speaker 9: really really happy with.
Speaker 3: That turd's being the leftover, undiagnosed, undiagnosed undijusted material from
Speaker 3: a previous year. Scene, NO i was trying to think
Speaker 3: about it where it's, like what what could he mean by?
Speaker 3: That and maybe like there's some there's some parts left
Speaker 3: over that that weren't. Bad, no, this, this this roster
Speaker 3: is better THAN i.
Speaker 1: Thought Ashton genty talking up that he wants to make
Speaker 1: a second year. Leap he has to become more of
Speaker 1: a leader for this. Team you, know some reports about
Speaker 1: the offensive line maybe not. Great you, know in terms
Speaker 1: of the run. Blocking it's so. Early i'm not going
Speaker 1: to have any takeaways from like running games in the
Speaker 1: first week of. Camp let's go to The chargers Where
Speaker 1: Justin herbert reportedly taking those coaching points about the quick.
Speaker 1: RELEASE i thought it was Interesting lad McConkie when they
Speaker 1: asked him About justin he just, like, well you guys
Speaker 1: have seen it like that ball is coming out. Fast
Speaker 1: it has to do a bit with his footwork and his,
Speaker 1: release and he's reportedly looked more comfortable playing in The
Speaker 1: mike McDaniel's. Style to start, Camp herbert had some time
Speaker 1: in front of the microphone and he Mentioned Brennan, thompson
Speaker 1: their fourth round, pick is going to make a lot
Speaker 1: of big plays for, them and what supports that is
Speaker 1: that he's been out there mostly taking first team. Reps
Speaker 1: a fourth round rookie stepping in maybe already ahead of
Speaker 1: a guy Like KeAndre Lambert smith maybe gonna be in
Speaker 1: the mix with With Trey, harris Behind lad McConkey And Quentin,
Speaker 1: johnston who you figure are going to be the top two.
Speaker 1: Guys but that's a guy who is a four to
Speaker 1: six guy in college and just kind of playing maybe
Speaker 1: that speed role For mike.
Speaker 2: McDaniel he loots some fast.
Speaker 3: And we've seen so like at this, point we've seen
Speaker 3: enough people in this role to, know, well that's a real.
Speaker 2: Thing it's not a.
Speaker 3: Creation it's just a question of it takes more than being,
Speaker 3: Fast Like Davana Edge hannis is clearly more than just.
Speaker 3: Fast and to have you, Know Tyreek hill And Jalen.
Speaker 3: Lattell it's big shoes to, fill but thus far that's.
Speaker 1: Good, yeah and just the fact that he's making plays
Speaker 1: consistently early is a really great sign because that doesn't
Speaker 1: happen with every young. Receiver Tully Tully Polo tuo has
Speaker 1: not been participating, fully not doing any team. Drills it
Speaker 1: appears by all accounts it is contract, Related but the
Speaker 1: players and the coaches around the league are called kind
Speaker 1: of all on the same page of These holden. SITUATIONS
Speaker 1: i don't know if you, noticed As, patrick where they're
Speaker 1: trying to say it's not about the contract when kind
Speaker 1: of everyone knows it is about the. Contract so we'll
Speaker 1: see how that. Goes five different offensive linemen have played
Speaker 1: first team left guard in just four. Days i've never
Speaker 1: seen a battle quite like, this a five person. Battle
Speaker 1: they've been spreading it, Around Jim harbaugh Said Trey pipkins,
Speaker 1: specifically it's hard to say that he's not one of
Speaker 1: our five, best and so maybe he is the guy
Speaker 1: that's going to move inside from tackle to, guard which
Speaker 1: would mean their second round, pick very high. Pick Jake
Speaker 1: slaughter might just be a backup at center and. Guard
Speaker 1: but that's a good problem for The chargers to have
Speaker 1: to have some. DEPTH i love the the McDaniel Jim
Speaker 1: harbaugh content that's at all coming, out just the whole
Speaker 1: thing of. It let's let's just take a quick look
Speaker 1: at them early in.
Speaker 6: Camp, coach you feel the, jewice, coach you feel The
Speaker 6: jews just got too many ball.
Speaker 2: Guys it's, awesome, man it's. Awesome we'll get us run
Speaker 2: to the line of.
Speaker 3: STIRMAGE i think of it like all the investment that's
Speaker 3: been made, Right it's like put money in the.
Speaker 2: Bay now it's time to start. Withdraw i've never wanted
Speaker 2: training camp to start.
Speaker 1: MORE i love that from The. Chargers do you think
Speaker 1: they play it up at all knowing they're micd up or,
Speaker 1: not or they're not thinking about.
Speaker 2: That.
Speaker 3: NO i think that that probably was one of the
Speaker 3: more team interactions that they've had in a similar.
Speaker 1: Circumstance i'm really interested in this. Team there's not as
Speaker 1: many like questions coming into the. SEASON i THINK i
Speaker 1: know who this team is for the most. Part we
Speaker 1: will be there as a podcast in a couple of,
Speaker 1: weeks So i'm looking forward to. THAT i Think Jordan
Speaker 1: drieg will be joining us on that. Show talking to The.
Speaker 1: Chargers let's go to THE Afc east where The bills
Speaker 1: had an injury. Scare Chauncey Gardner johnson was carted off
Speaker 1: with an. Injury turns out it's a calf, strain which
Speaker 1: doesn't sound, great but it's not a long term. Injury
Speaker 1: even if it's like a multi week, injury it doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like it's something that's gonna keep them out going
Speaker 1: into the. Season so that that is great to see at.
Speaker 1: Safety Behind Chauncey Gardner johnson right, now It's Cole bishop
Speaker 1: And Geno stone who was with The bengals and it's
Speaker 1: had some had some tough moments. There who's taken Over
Speaker 1: Damar hamlin even behind them and a Rookie Jalen. Kilgore
Speaker 1: so tomorrow probably not going to be a starter. Anymore
Speaker 1: here's another omen for. You first play of training camp
Speaker 1: A Kean coleman. Drop that's that's not what you.
Speaker 3: Want but the key on problems haven't necessarily been. Dropped
Speaker 3: they've been been dropping.
Speaker 1: Some you, know he had one in the in the
Speaker 1: divisional round of the playoffs THAT i know it wouldn't
Speaker 1: accounted because it was called back by. Penalty was one
Speaker 1: of the worst drops we've ever.
Speaker 3: Seen, YEAH i just think the total summnation of like
Speaker 3: whether or Not kean is is performing as to you,
Speaker 3: know they have him out. THERE i guess if if
Speaker 3: anybody needs to have things to blame On kean in the.
Speaker 1: Future you want to you want a better omen very next,
Speaker 1: play second, play a training, camp back To, Kean, Coleman
Speaker 1: Josh allen building up that confidence he makes the. Grab
Speaker 1: what you don't think he purposefully went back to him
Speaker 1: after the first play as a drop so that it wouldn't.
Speaker 1: Linger That's Josh allen being a.
Speaker 3: LEADER i think sometimes people drop the, ball sometimes people
Speaker 3: catch the.
Speaker 2: BALL i think we're gonna need MORE.
Speaker 1: I get, That BUT i think the second play going
Speaker 1: back to, him that's. Purpose you won't convince this otherwise
Speaker 1: it's real.
Speaker 2: Leadership that's. Right maybe it was open no.
Speaker 1: Surprise the top four receivers have BEEN Dj, Moore Kean,
Speaker 1: Coleman Balil, Shakir Josh. PALMER i think THAT'S i think
Speaker 1: they're pretty established, actually AND i Think coleman's going to
Speaker 1: play a lot for this. Team the starting defense line At,
Speaker 1: Oliver Dan, WALKER. Tj. SANDERS i gotta ADMIT i couldn't
Speaker 1: find a lot of good bills notes hit me up
Speaker 1: bills fans in. REPORTERS i don't know if you have
Speaker 1: anything you've been doing inside training camp.
Speaker 2: LIVE i.
Speaker 1: DIDN'T i didn't know what to say about the. Bills
Speaker 1: sometimes that happens early in training. Camp, No josh was
Speaker 1: usually a good. Problem he's asked a lot.
Speaker 3: About the differences in in the McDermott and and Now brady,
Speaker 3: regimes and he was, like there's, change but a lot
Speaker 3: of things that we needed that that we were doing weren't, Working,
Speaker 3: so you, know very honest To Josh.
Speaker 1: All one of one of the offensive linemen was talking
Speaker 1: about the difference Between Joe brady And sean McDermott and
Speaker 1: was kind of comparing him to like a like a
Speaker 1: cool uncle or, something and, like you, know you can
Speaker 1: like it wasn't like A it almost. Didn't it's not
Speaker 1: how the, PLAYER i think wanted it to come, across
Speaker 1: where it almost sounded like like a kid who knows
Speaker 1: he can get away with more now that you have
Speaker 1: like a substitute teacher.
Speaker 3: Vibe and also when you say somebody's the cool, uncle
Speaker 3: it means they're not your. Dad, right, well because the
Speaker 3: implication there is that there's somebody who is mainly in
Speaker 3: charge of taking care and then this person only shows
Speaker 3: up in special.
Speaker 1: Occasions being a cool on goes. Important. Though, yeah my Brother,
Speaker 1: dean what a role he is playing in the in
Speaker 1: the lives of in the lives of my. Children if,
Speaker 1: you BECAUSE i you, Know i'm leaning off here so,
Speaker 1: often if you had any, takeaway anything you wanted to
Speaker 1: say about what's happened at The New England patriots training
Speaker 1: camp so, far what would stand out to?
Speaker 3: You booty always Stands, Okay, YEAH i mean we have
Speaker 3: we had a little bit of this.
Speaker 2: DISCUSSION i think maybe they're trying to drive the price.
Speaker 1: Up, no THAT'S i don't.
Speaker 2: Think IT'S i don't.
Speaker 1: Think but it's such a deep receiver. GROUP i think
Speaker 1: there is a clear top four that has been established
Speaker 1: to me in the first week of training camp that
Speaker 1: does not Include Matt, collins who is on is certainly
Speaker 1: going to make the, team and does not include my
Speaker 1: Guy Kyle, williams which is disappointing to. Me To Mario
Speaker 1: douglas is a. RECEIVER i Think josh McDaniels really likes and,
Speaker 1: look he was the guy in The Super bowl that's
Speaker 1: still out there catching some. PASSES i Think Drake may
Speaker 1: trusts him so that the clear one two three IS A. J,
Speaker 1: Brown Romeo, Dobbs booty And douglas are kind of the
Speaker 1: top four And booty is. Rocking that's a new. One
Speaker 1: after a slow start when the pads came, ON A.
Speaker 1: J brown And Romeo dobbs a lot of action over the,
Speaker 1: weekend so people were kind of concerned that wasn't happened
Speaker 1: in the first week at. Camp dobbs especially was, silent
Speaker 1: and you, Know Jake may looks. Good i'm a little
Speaker 1: worried about the pass. RUSH i think that's probably a
Speaker 1: big part of. It they don't really have much. Harol
Speaker 1: landry seems to have a pretty serious injury and doesn't
Speaker 1: sound like he's going to be back anytime. Soon gabe
Speaker 1: acis and THAT i found out that is the. Pronunciation.
Speaker 1: Yah Just Gabe accus signed a very strange contract because
Speaker 1: it's it sounds without the, player without the team wanting
Speaker 1: to put it out there publicly that they Believe acus
Speaker 1: or his agent willfully misled the public about the existence
Speaker 1: of an injury that they didn't know. About that the
Speaker 1: ENTIRE nfl didn't know about when they drafted, him and
Speaker 1: they put a crazy conditions into his contract where like
Speaker 1: things are not guaranteed through the first three. Years there's
Speaker 1: all this injury. Stuff it would sound that sounds, ugly
Speaker 1: But brabel's really trying To Mike rabel's trying to like
Speaker 1: build him, up and he has started to. Practice and
Speaker 1: for what it's, Worth Greg, badard who's out there, practice is,
Speaker 1: like this guy has definitely not been taking time off
Speaker 1: like he might have the best like coming off the
Speaker 1: bus body on the entire. Team So Gay, bacchus we're
Speaker 1: all rooting for.
Speaker 3: You, yeah room For Gay. BACHUS i do wonder what
Speaker 3: The clowney signing In. Houston, obviously, yeah he lives In,
Speaker 3: houston but there's familiarity Between Mike verble And Genevian clowney
Speaker 3: with the need. There do we think because that this
Speaker 3: wasn't in, play that there's confidence maybe in the group
Speaker 3: or are we thinking that maybe and.
Speaker 1: They weren't one of the TEAMS i was even mentioned
Speaker 1: it WAS i Think clowney going to visit The browns
Speaker 1: to get his price up a little. Bit As clowney
Speaker 1: is expert hit. Doing let's be, real.
Speaker 3: Because he does not Like Hendrew berry well that he
Speaker 3: doesn't like.
Speaker 1: That it is funny to think back that he literally
Speaker 1: went To cleveland just to get The texans to go
Speaker 1: up a million or two or whatever it, was and
Speaker 1: The seahawks were also interested in Bringing.
Speaker 3: Maybe he just wanted them to debase, themselves to have the,
Speaker 3: discussion just to be, like.
Speaker 2: All, Right i'm.
Speaker 1: OUT i, mean if you're choosing between The, seahawks The,
Speaker 1: texans and The browns in the year twenty twenty, six
Speaker 1: you live In, houston there's a clear number three in
Speaker 1: that list free. Dinner but, yeah they're pass. Rush it
Speaker 1: could be a. Problem they Got Dreamond. Jones it's not.
Speaker 1: Great Christian gonzoz continues to fully, practice even with the pads,
Speaker 1: on so he's not holding out or doing anything waiting
Speaker 1: for that. Contract the run blocking has reportedly been pretty
Speaker 1: bad at, practice something to Why i've been talking About
Speaker 1: Caleb lomu as a potential left tackle their first round.
Speaker 1: Pick he's reportedly struggled a little bit of, camp getting
Speaker 1: beating a, lot kind of the only offensive lineman maybe
Speaker 1: getting beaten a. Lot SO i think it's Will campbell's job,
Speaker 1: there not that it wasn't in the first place at left.
Speaker 3: TACKLE i feel like we need a scale to grade.
Speaker 3: Ye training, camp, yeah run, Game. YEAH i don't know
Speaker 3: that we're getting all of.
Speaker 1: It the pads being on there at least gave me.
Speaker 1: LICENSE i feel like to make that just no early
Speaker 1: that they're saying license, right but that it's not trying
Speaker 1: to make something out of. Nothing just multiple reports of
Speaker 1: just guys in the, Backfield Trayvon henderson having no chance
Speaker 1: whatsoever BECAUSE i Think remandre had arrest, day which reminds
Speaker 1: me of last year when they're running, game had terrible
Speaker 1: blocking To The jets have practiced less than. ANYONE i
Speaker 1: kind of noticed. This they had more days. Off they
Speaker 1: just they gave a day off after day three and
Speaker 1: day four or day. FIVE i think so now that
Speaker 1: not as many. Practices everyone's getting into pass On. Monday
Speaker 1: LIKE i, mentioned a lot Of David bailey sacks in
Speaker 1: the first couple of days of. Practice Gino smith had
Speaker 1: a fifteen for fifteen. Day just wanted to point that.
Speaker 3: Out you are well within your rights to point that.
Speaker 3: Out we're getting everybody else's passing. Numbers gino lightened it.
Speaker 1: Up are you more concerned if you're in this. Situation
Speaker 1: it's the classic training camp dilemma of, like oh we
Speaker 1: might have a common in quarterback, now or that our
Speaker 1: defense is Allowing gino to go fifteen for.
Speaker 3: FIFTEEN i think any situation Where gino is not in
Speaker 3: a serious threat to get, blasted yeah he, could he could,
Speaker 3: still he could still spin.
Speaker 1: IT i agree the number one test of if you're
Speaker 1: AN nfl, quarterback which not everyone. Passes that's in THE.
Speaker 1: Nfl but in terms of having a long, career it
Speaker 1: seems obvious enough LITERALLY. Nfl EVERY nfl quarterback that has
Speaker 1: a long, career if you give them, time they will
Speaker 1: dice you, up like in different ways in different, flare
Speaker 1: but they will dice you up like they're just that
Speaker 1: good Cave clubnick not sure if he's going to be
Speaker 1: that type of guy or, not but he's kind of
Speaker 1: clearly THE qb. Two they're At jets, camps so that
Speaker 1: is that is A gena injury. Away AND i know
Speaker 1: you know has Been, durabo BUT i don't think there's
Speaker 1: even really a battle there For keb Against. Brady, Yeah Brady,
Speaker 1: cook is there A zappi's there but Club nick's getting
Speaker 1: all the reps as KEEP.
Speaker 2: I guess, so but just.
Speaker 1: Okay Adie mitchell reportedly having a fast start to camp
Speaker 1: and some injuries. There Joseph asi the edge, rusher and D'Angelo,
Speaker 1: ponds who are keeping an eye on in the back,
Speaker 1: end have been out with. Injuries The dolphins are a
Speaker 1: team that aren't getting a lot of national. ATTENTION i
Speaker 1: often mentioned the podcast Three yards Per. CARRY i checked them,
Speaker 1: out especially during training. Camp they noted That Malik willis
Speaker 1: just absolutely on fire killing The dolphins defense on day
Speaker 1: three after just like a so so start to, camp
Speaker 1: but just like looking, great dotting people up and it's
Speaker 1: a lot Of Caleb, douglas their third round, receiver is
Speaker 1: kind of the first guy That Malik willis is looking,
Speaker 1: At Malik, washington according to the reporters. THERE i believe
Speaker 1: It's Al, fartega who hosts the. Show he thinks he's
Speaker 1: probably the odds on favorite to lead that team in.
Speaker 1: Targets but that's probably your one two right. Now Caleb
Speaker 1: douglass just curious Or Malik washington as a late round
Speaker 1: flyer in Fantasy league's not that, Crazy.
Speaker 2: No not crazy at.
Speaker 3: All Malik washington should, be, yeah the target leader based
Speaker 3: on the numbers for the guys that are that are
Speaker 3: coming back like, career It's Malik washington and everybody.
Speaker 1: Else Quinn youwers reportedly looked. Awful it's worth noting like
Speaker 1: he was drafted to be In mike McDaniel's. System that's
Speaker 1: not the system. Anymore for the first three days of,
Speaker 1: camp so they're pretty thin Behind Malik. Willis yours reportedly
Speaker 1: look better On. SUNDAY i had a little bit of
Speaker 1: a bounce back at. Cornerback it sounds like the top
Speaker 1: three cornerbacks right now with the Rookie Chris, Johnson Juju
Speaker 1: brentz who's got impressive specimen but just hasn't been able
Speaker 1: to stay, healthy and Then Ethan. Bonner they got a
Speaker 1: million guys. There i've heard some Chop robinson, pop which
Speaker 1: is nice to hear again after a down. Year it
Speaker 1: sounds Like Jacob rodriguez their second round. LINEBACKER i think
Speaker 1: he's going to be starting next To jordan bro and
Speaker 1: then for Fantasy devon H, Chan Dalen, wright and Then
Speaker 1: Ali gordon appears to be the running back order of
Speaker 1: the depth. Chart So Alli gordon got some verbal pop
Speaker 1: From Jeff, halfley but he's been coming up third in
Speaker 1: terms of the depth. Chart that matters more to. Me
Speaker 1: what do you think about the verbal? Pop were you
Speaker 1: ever a waiter and are you aware of the phenomenon
Speaker 1: of the verbal.
Speaker 3: Tip, No i've never delved into those.
Speaker 2: Waters, okay yard maintenance was my area of.
Speaker 3: Expertise BUT i think for fantasy, purposes, obviously if you're
Speaker 3: going to handcuff the running, BACKS i think you need
Speaker 3: to weigh who would actually play in the event that
Speaker 3: von H chan isn't out there long, term who would
Speaker 3: have the majority of this? Naps AND i think that
Speaker 3: verbal pop may, mean like the order may not necessarily
Speaker 3: reflect who gets the playtime in this.
Speaker 1: Situation, yeah AND i think especially at running, back that's
Speaker 1: gonna change when you're in real live, action not even pads,
Speaker 1: practice but the preseason and then to the regular. Season
Speaker 1: the verbal tip PHENOMENON i believe to be. Real as a,
Speaker 1: waiter very often you would find that the customers who
Speaker 1: would go out of their way to be nice enough
Speaker 1: about what a good experience they have and thank you
Speaker 1: and and maybe talk to you, more they would like tip.
Speaker 1: Less they Were they would feel almost like subconsciously they
Speaker 1: either felt bad about not giving you a good, tip
Speaker 1: or that like they gave you the tip by just
Speaker 1: saying nice things to, you but then they're giving you
Speaker 1: like twelve percent or. SOMETHING i feel like it happened
Speaker 1: all the. Time it was a phenomenon Among, YEAH i.
Speaker 3: THINK i think, waiters in their analyzes of phenomenon are
Speaker 3: probably not necessarily trustworthy.
Speaker 2: Sources oh come, on we're doing it every. DAY i.
Speaker 2: THINK i think confirmation bias is.
Speaker 3: Huge, yeah tipping evolved as a solution to avoid paying
Speaker 3: the formerly. ENSLAVED i wish everybody was. Compensated IF i
Speaker 3: could raise, up that's the entire restaurant to.
Speaker 2: Obtain, yeah, there do. PAY i.
Speaker 3: WOULD i would like to tell, Everybody, Hey i'm tipping
Speaker 3: twenty five percent at the, start SO i don't so
Speaker 3: frequently get forgotten.
Speaker 2: About that's about me and my.
Speaker 1: Wife that's actually a good move.
Speaker 3: Eat at the. Bar BUT i do hate That it's, like,
Speaker 3: HEY i would like to be treated the same as everybody,
Speaker 3: Else SO i need to pay to let you know
Speaker 3: that you. Pay because of whatever weird analysis has caused
Speaker 3: you to think That i'm not going to tip.
Speaker 2: PROPERLY i would just like to do without the entire.
Speaker 1: Process, PERSONALLY i totally agree AND i have. ENJOYED i
Speaker 1: don't know if this is a phenomenon that's happening across the.
Speaker 1: Country there is an increasing amount Of Los angeles restaurants
Speaker 1: which the tips. Included they're presumably paying more of a living.
Speaker 1: Wage AND i mean it's not even a tip that's.
Speaker 1: Included they just it's like a. Charge, no you don't like.
Speaker 3: That, no the last person THAT i trust in this
Speaker 3: is the restaurant owners and operators who have been underpaying
Speaker 3: people in the first place and forcing the public to
Speaker 3: serve that business a portion of their. WAGES i think
Speaker 3: the overall restaurant industry takes advantage of his workers to
Speaker 3: a more extent than almost anything. Else, uh but there's
Speaker 3: a better way than us doing like societal analysis by
Speaker 3: looking at a person and trying to figure out how
Speaker 3: much they're gonna tell, me because that doesn't go so
Speaker 3: great for.
Speaker 1: Everything, no it's a tough. Business. Uh you do like
Speaker 1: the other countries where it's it's not as much and
Speaker 1: the and the, like the tipping isn't as much of an,
Speaker 1: issue and they do pay their waiters more of a living.
Speaker 1: Wage BUT i still believe in the verbal tip is
Speaker 1: a phenomenon that. EXISTS i don't you. KNOW i haven't
Speaker 1: run the analytics on. It we, will we will do
Speaker 1: that during the. Break, okay we're gonna say. Numbers we're
Speaker 1: gonna take one more and we're gonna finish our roundup
Speaker 1: of all thirty two teams in two days with THE
Speaker 1: afc noe more omens. Omens The bengal first play a
Speaker 1: training camp.
Speaker 2: Is a positive.
Speaker 1: Element oh under center, motion two tight ends on the,
Speaker 1: field exact same was the case with the first play
Speaker 1: of Pads on On. Monday again under center, motion completely
Speaker 1: different type of offense Than Joe burrow has been running
Speaker 1: for his entire, career Which i've always thought of as
Speaker 1: The Joe burrow. Offense it does sound like the change
Speaker 1: that they've long kind of threatened, to like diversify things
Speaker 1: and not just be back there and Let joe do
Speaker 1: everything ninety five percent of. Time hopefully it helps out
Speaker 1: the running. Game that's a big part of it that
Speaker 1: They it really does look different day after day after
Speaker 1: day according to the people on the scene there they're
Speaker 1: working on.
Speaker 3: It are you taking from this If Zach taylor, says
Speaker 3: if it's going to be my, fault If i'm, Out
Speaker 3: i'm going to have it actually be my. Fault, Wow
Speaker 3: and you know the, calls the, structure everything is going
Speaker 3: to run through me If i'm going to be, gone
Speaker 3: and whether or not you're happy about, it whether or
Speaker 3: not you're having, fun this is.
Speaker 1: ME i haven't thought of it that. Way that's a
Speaker 1: great way to frame. IT i love. IT i think that's.
Speaker 1: RIGHT i think that's him trying to graduate from the
Speaker 1: generic polo to maybe like one that's a little more tightly,
Speaker 1: cut showing off the. Muscles we got some stripes or
Speaker 1: extra medium something, like or you got AN nfl, network
Speaker 1: like a better. POLO i love that. Theory and maybe
Speaker 1: maybe they were able to point out the running game
Speaker 1: and the effectiveness of the offense With Joe flacco last
Speaker 1: year and was a little proof of concept For Joe
Speaker 1: burrow to just like see, it, like oh, okay but,
Speaker 1: yeah the under center is every. Day Eric all is
Speaker 1: a third year tight end WHO i think is going
Speaker 1: to be really important to this equation as an almost
Speaker 1: every down player who's that kind of versatile tight. End
Speaker 1: also on that first day of practice was a big.
Speaker 1: FIGHT Dj turner And Jamar chase getting into a fight
Speaker 1: Where chase wound up throwing his, helmet and then the
Speaker 1: THING i like About Joe burrow is he just repeatedly
Speaker 1: started throwing TO Dj turner after that With Jamar.
Speaker 2: Chase loved to. Coverage by the, way.
Speaker 1: It wasn't even a thing that happened after a. Play
Speaker 1: the fight started as they called them onto the, field
Speaker 1: so they likely were chirping on the sideline about. SOMETHING
Speaker 1: i don't know If i've ever seen. That where the
Speaker 1: fight started wasn't after a. Play it was like the
Speaker 1: third team just finished up and they're, like all, right
Speaker 1: first team back out on the, field and then they
Speaker 1: just start. Fighting but reportedly this kind of goes with
Speaker 1: the larger theme the defense fighting back In bengals, camp
Speaker 1: the defensive line really. Dominates, YEAH i like. It, Mafay
Speaker 1: Jonathan allen. There Dexter lawrence might be a sign though
Speaker 1: that The bengals offensive line not playing that, well but,
Speaker 1: yeah let's look at the. Positive at least in, camp
Speaker 1: their secondary seems pretty. Established for those who are tracking the,
Speaker 1: Draft Scario davis was a guy they took in the second.
Speaker 1: Round he seems pretty clearly like a backup. Corner they're,
Speaker 1: established they like to bring along their guys. Slowly Dg
Speaker 1: ivy also a. Backup Just Sear taylor is getting some
Speaker 1: work as the first team, nickel but it's Mostly Jalen davis.
Speaker 1: There and THEN i wanted to mention the name of a,
Speaker 1: Guy Dante, myers who was A cfl player who played At.
Speaker 1: PRESBYTERIAN i don't know if that's the full name of the,
Speaker 1: college and Then Delta state in. College apparently like wound
Speaker 1: up At Delta state because like some old high school
Speaker 1: coach of his recognized his. Name he spells his Name
Speaker 1: dante a little, differently like no attention whatsoever to go
Speaker 1: From presbyterian To Delta state to An Atlanta falcons tryout
Speaker 1: that you didn't ever get anywhere with to THE cfl
Speaker 1: giving you a, tryout to then making THE cfl and
Speaker 1: becoming one of the best players in THE cfl to.
Speaker 1: Now according To bengals reporters Like Paul, daaner who's there
Speaker 1: thinking like this guy might make the team a Little
Speaker 1: Andrew hawkins, Vibes, yeah this guy got to.
Speaker 3: The Rough riders and had eight catches for one hundred
Speaker 3: one yards his very first game in the. CFLs it's
Speaker 3: how you get guys Like Rashid, shaheed you, know Two saints,
Speaker 3: here but the beer man like people didn't fall through the.
Speaker 2: Cracks it could be be good football.
Speaker 1: Players and it makes. Sense, well he's a smaller, guy
Speaker 1: so he didn't get, attention but also maybe just different
Speaker 1: guys develop at different. Times The ravens are Hoping Lamar
Speaker 1: jackson develops playing more under, center kind of Like Joe
Speaker 1: burrow sounds a lot like. NORMAL i think we talked
Speaker 1: about their good omen last week actually THAT i think
Speaker 1: it was like a deep cross to Day flowers on
Speaker 1: the very first play of. Camp SO i like that
Speaker 1: twenty yard, completion a lot Of lamar just talking about
Speaker 1: how much he likes under center and that they're they're
Speaker 1: trying to work that into the. Mix it's Like lamar
Speaker 1: three point. Zero it is a totally different system to
Speaker 1: watch him.
Speaker 3: Running so, yeah fun and the sample sizes are, small
Speaker 3: but you Get lamar on those play, actions especially like
Speaker 3: full back turn play action plays last year that we
Speaker 3: talked about where he had twenty twenty four numbers in
Speaker 3: play action.
Speaker 2: Year they just kind of got away from.
Speaker 3: It so the idea that they could fully invest and
Speaker 3: utilize the personnel is that the real omen is having
Speaker 3: Matda biku play.
Speaker 1: Football mattabikue out there, practicing and he's got the neck,
Speaker 1: role WHICH i don't know if that's, reflected you, know
Speaker 1: because he's had those neck. Injuries he just feels more.
Speaker 1: Comfortable but it looks. Cool you just don't see Those,
Speaker 1: yeah it's. Back we're bringing back the neck. Role in
Speaker 1: terms of the receiver, group this is one Where i'm
Speaker 1: maybe like slightly, concerned like no one's popping up as camp.
Speaker 1: Stories the reports are it's a lot of Z, Flowers
Speaker 1: bateman's kind of up and, down and THEN i don't
Speaker 1: know what else.
Speaker 2: Is it sounds like The Baltimore ravens, Receiver that's What i'm.
Speaker 1: Saying BUT i would love to just Hear Elijah surat's killing.
Speaker 1: It but he is coming back from an. Injury he
Speaker 1: reportedly doesn't look one hundred percent. Early Jacobe lane is
Speaker 1: another rookie they drafted who's like uneven but you, know
Speaker 1: had a couple, flashy contested catches that sounds like how
Speaker 1: he was at. College you. KNOW i JUST i want
Speaker 1: SOME i want one of those, teams either The ravens
Speaker 1: or The commanders to Sign Stefan. DIGGS i THINK i
Speaker 1: think you would help fill out that. Room the pass
Speaker 1: rush reportedly looking a little. Deeper Mike, green according to
Speaker 1: The Athletic, quote far more, confident, assertive, Powerful Tabus robinson
Speaker 1: is starting. There they feel a little bit better about
Speaker 1: their pass rush, depth especially with Kila As campbell also
Speaker 1: on the. Field As pats came on On, monday not doing,
Speaker 1: everything but he's out there for the first, time so
Speaker 1: that is good to. See Travis jones been. Out how
Speaker 1: are you feeling about the?
Speaker 3: Defense, well you have to consider the fact That Jesse
Speaker 3: minner took a player that wasn't productive at all with
Speaker 3: The Baltimore ravens and he had, production a lot of
Speaker 3: production towards the end of the season for The chargers
Speaker 3: in a dafeol, way and so what can he do
Speaker 3: with the group that. Remains that's the place of, confidence
Speaker 3: and you Know Kalayis campbell providing that. Depth you know
Speaker 3: his mother passed away this, summer was away from the team,
Speaker 3: there so condolences To Kalayis campbell for. Joining WHAT i
Speaker 3: feel like it is one of the worst clubs in the,
Speaker 3: world and it feels like that for for a long
Speaker 3: time and to go through that late in his. Career
Speaker 3: hopefully he's ABLE uh to navigate that. Process but it's
Speaker 3: different for. Everybody and when you were talking about.
Speaker 1: Helping out A raven Former raven Jesse minner like last
Speaker 1: year and could he do that, AGAIN i thought you
Speaker 1: were going to See Tony. Jefferson, Tony Tony jefferson was
Speaker 1: on The.
Speaker 2: Raven, Yeah Tony jefferson very, much very much a ball.
Speaker 1: Like he bounced, around But i'm not.
Speaker 2: Crazy that was main main lower To Tony.
Speaker 1: Jefferson The Cleveland browns have an over under win total
Speaker 1: of five and a half In. Vegas their team owner
Speaker 1: jumping into the fray without being. Asked it was he
Speaker 1: Was this was not one where context would add to.
Speaker 1: You he's just kind of freestyle and and just brought
Speaker 1: that up and he, SAID i would take the over
Speaker 1: AND i would take.
Speaker 3: It THAT nfl ownership doesn't do the extensive amount OF
Speaker 3: uh PowerPoint presents that we do regarding discussions about, gaming
Speaker 3: because it seems like that would be an If Jimmy
Speaker 3: haslam had like a fifteen YEAR nba. Career this will
Speaker 3: be enough for the CURRENT fbi to invest.
Speaker 1: In the schedule is. Favorable there are really talented players
Speaker 1: on this. Roster, there there's a route to it, happening
Speaker 1: but they need better quarterback. Play And Zach, jackson WHO
Speaker 1: i listened to in terms of his podcast and at The,
Speaker 1: athletic has just noted, that you, Know watson's bad days
Speaker 1: have just been. Awful six interceptions so, far some alarmingly bad.
Speaker 1: Days some better days. Too BUT i just continue to
Speaker 1: be confused why they are trotting him out there ON nfl.
Speaker 1: Network maybe we, replaced maybe we requested. Him why like
Speaker 1: CAUSE i because there's some reporting that you, know depending
Speaker 1: on the, day Like Taylor green is a rookie that's
Speaker 1: kind of frisky that they might want to hold on
Speaker 1: to on their actual. Roster and then you, know he
Speaker 1: Got gabrielle like some days has looked like the best quarterbacks,
Speaker 1: supposedly it sounds to me reading between the line That
Speaker 1: Shuldary sanders on balance has been the best quarterback. There
Speaker 1: and then so you add that all up AND i
Speaker 1: see a realistic possibility That Deshaun watson is just not
Speaker 1: on the.
Speaker 3: Roster it would that would make total, sense, Right but
Speaker 3: then there's aspects like him still being on the roster
Speaker 3: and this still being a.
Speaker 1: Possibility it was like the one last. Chance let's see
Speaker 1: if he comes out and looks any better in, camp
Speaker 1: he's fully, healthy blah blah. Blah, yeah he's just not
Speaker 1: that guy as a. Player but everything else Aside quinn
Speaker 1: Show duggins is out there just doing. Everything love, it
Speaker 1: reportedly looking really, strong positive injury recovery news. There and
Speaker 1: THEN i texted our Friend Andrews ciciliano if he had any,
Speaker 1: takes and a lot of it was, like you, Know
Speaker 1: jared versa as advertised a lot of things you'd expect the,
Speaker 1: quarterbacks you, know some good, days some. Bad but he
Speaker 1: said Something i've seen elsewhere, too which is both rookie,
Speaker 1: receivers Especially Denzel, boston but Also casey concepts you and
Speaker 1: speed really showing. Up but just That Denzel boston catching
Speaker 1: everything in his zip. Code and that has been the
Speaker 1: case throughout the entire offseason. Program and he's lined up
Speaker 1: against some good players Like Denzel ward making. Catches keep
Speaker 1: an eye on that Rookie Denzel. Boston that's.
Speaker 3: It they got some fun players it's. Fun it's fun
Speaker 3: to think about other than the one thing that's decidedly not.
Speaker 1: Fun But shoulder will give them a, chance Like shoulder
Speaker 1: holds onto the, Ball LIKE i can see where the
Speaker 1: ceiling seems a little limited For shouldar unless he just
Speaker 1: locks in at some point mentally at like another, level
Speaker 1: because like he's not that, athletic he's not that, big
Speaker 1: you know WHAT i, Mean so you got to get
Speaker 1: your advantages in other. Ways BUT i do think he
Speaker 1: will be, aggressive like he'll take his. Chances let's wrap
Speaker 1: up with The. Steelers we got to Get patrick to
Speaker 1: his regular. Job is that the case right?
Speaker 2: Now, NO i just. Checked the meeting is being they're
Speaker 2: holding it for this right. Now, NO i don't want.
Speaker 3: To get because there's inside training. Camp we're. Good there's
Speaker 3: a lot of moving.
Speaker 1: Parts so because WE'RE i do not want to get
Speaker 1: in trouble with the. Mouse our last, team sixteenth, team The.
Speaker 1: Steelers Dalen warren one a in the backfield With Rico
Speaker 1: daddle And Caleb johnson behind. Him are you ready to
Speaker 1: buy in On Jalen.
Speaker 2: Warren i'm.
Speaker 3: READY i am ready to buy in On Jalen, warren
Speaker 3: AND i would like to issue a full apology To
Speaker 3: Jalen warren And Greg Rose, wow any sort of, thing
Speaker 3: BECAUSE i WANT i don't Want greg to keep leaning into. That,
Speaker 3: OKAY i Hate Jalen warren. Thing, no it's just the
Speaker 3: fun bit that only me and you really care. About you,
Speaker 3: know he just thought he Was.
Speaker 1: Okay Roman wilson is begetting most of the third receiver
Speaker 1: reps over the Rookie Jeremy. Bernard mike McCarthy is a
Speaker 1: coach who generally makes you kind of earn it as a.
Speaker 1: Rookie but according To Mark, caboli who covers the team
Speaker 1: for The pat mcavie, Show max ihanachor taking third team
Speaker 1: reps and you, know kind of looking like a, rookie
Speaker 1: he was thought of as a bit of a project,
Speaker 1: potentially and at Least coboli thinks it's going to be
Speaker 1: an uphill battle for their first round pick to, start
Speaker 1: similar to their mid round Rookie Jennings, dunker who might
Speaker 1: be really far away from making an impact there at.
Speaker 1: Guards so maybe slow goings with the rookie offensive, lineman
Speaker 1: which to me would be a little, disappointing but it's
Speaker 1: early in. Camp Sante Samuel, junior according to The, athletic
Speaker 1: has been the standout. There it is of training. Camp
Speaker 1: love kind of forgot he's on this.
Speaker 3: Team, yeah love an, older older veteran being a being
Speaker 3: a standout in, camp you, know showing that this is
Speaker 3: it's going to be. DIFFERENT i think that was the overall.
Speaker 3: Company like we talked With Max, starks just not only
Speaker 3: is it different from the previous, regime but it's different
Speaker 3: from some of the things That mike McCarthy has, done like.
Speaker 3: Everything it feels like if people think that things got
Speaker 3: trenched in and they were two same for The Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: steel is the very.
Speaker 2: Least it's it's it's it's.
Speaker 1: Different, yeah they're they're moving their players around on defense.
Speaker 1: More But samuel who was good enough to be ranked
Speaker 1: quite high on my twenty twenty four free agents list
Speaker 1: when he was. AVAILABLE i didn't really realize the severity
Speaker 1: of his neck injury that he was coming, off BUT
Speaker 1: i had him in like a top forty player in
Speaker 1: terms of free. Agents like he came back from that
Speaker 1: injury last. Year mike McCarthy, said he's, like, No, LIE
Speaker 1: i CAN'T i can't like lie Like Assantia Samon junior
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite, players and he used the
Speaker 1: word physical bringing him, up and, like this is the
Speaker 1: guy who's maybe seen his career flashed before his. Eyes
Speaker 1: if they get a plus starter out of, him that
Speaker 1: has kind of found money because he's ON i think
Speaker 1: a one, year four million dollar, contract very cheap for
Speaker 1: a player of his. Ability they signed a, Guy Malik
Speaker 1: harrison from The ravens that was supposed to potentially be
Speaker 1: a starter and who's been buried in the linebacker, rotation
Speaker 1: so it doesn't sound like he's going to be. Starting.
Speaker 1: There reportedly haven't been a lot of snaps For Drew
Speaker 1: aller And Will howard because Just Aaron rodgers gets. Everything
Speaker 1: don't love that this is the last that's the last.
Speaker 1: Dance you got to develop these young. Guys you got
Speaker 1: to figure. OUT i Hope Mason rudolph's not getting. Much
Speaker 1: Just Rayshawn jenkins is AN nfl veteran who plays safety
Speaker 1: who The steelers signed recently while Cutting Darnell, savage who's
Speaker 1: a guy who's played a lot of football in THE.
Speaker 1: Nfl so, again different coaching staff has different kind of
Speaker 1: types of guys that they, like and they're moving out
Speaker 1: with some guys that they that they have played a
Speaker 1: decent amount AND i thought was gonna have a decent.
Speaker 1: Role let's wrap up our sound With mike McCarthy talking
Speaker 1: about our Man Aaron.
Speaker 2: Rodgers, yeah he'd like to.
Speaker 6: PLAY i would like to see him, playing, so but
Speaker 6: we won't make a decision until we get all the
Speaker 6: way up to it because there's more that goes into.
Speaker 6: That just you, know having one player, plays you, know
Speaker 6: it's the culmination of.
Speaker 1: Players Aaron rodgers had mentioned McCarthy told him he was
Speaker 1: going to play thirty to forty snaps in the, preseason
Speaker 1: and McCarthy sounded like they're didn't want that cat out
Speaker 1: of the back because he could change his. Mind like
Speaker 1: if he's just not feeling that he wants the whole
Speaker 1: offense to be out, there he might change his.
Speaker 3: Mind, yeah it's an honest evaluation of the, offense and
Speaker 3: some of that's going to Require aaron doesn't always have
Speaker 3: to happen in a.
Speaker 1: Game there was a piece By Mike silver About Aaron
Speaker 1: rodgers Where i'm not going to Say Aaron rodgers took
Speaker 1: credit for The mike McCarthy, higher but he did say
Speaker 1: that on his exit interview with ownership that, hey most you,
Speaker 1: know most, ownership they're always looking at like the new,
Speaker 1: thing the new. Thing AND i Think mike McCarthy would
Speaker 1: be great with another chance at. Coaching and then they
Speaker 1: Interviewed mike. McCarthy maybe he was On. Aaron Maybe Aaron
Speaker 1: rodgers is responsible For mike McCarthy having this.
Speaker 3: Job he also said that he wouldn't have come, back
Speaker 3: he would have retired if it Wasn't mike.
Speaker 2: McCarthy So.
Speaker 1: I'm old enough to remember that they didn't leave on good. Terms,
Speaker 1: no they literally didn't speak for like years. Afterwards but
Speaker 1: he's this.
Speaker 3: Is all, season all about healing, relationships his his. Wife,
Speaker 3: yeah forgetting her Name, BRITTON i think it's out. There,
Speaker 3: OH i don't, Know, orny It's brandy with an. Eye
Speaker 3: perhaps you know has has helped. Him he lives in
Speaker 3: relationships with his. Family, uh Maybe mike. McCarthy maybe.
Speaker 1: Medicine medicine is. Important, yeah medicine will be. Used i'm.
Speaker 1: Sure on the bear, Safety Kobe. BRYANT i know it's
Speaker 1: AN afc, show but as we're taping their big free agent,
Speaker 1: signing who is going to start for them is expected
Speaker 1: to be sidelined for eight to ten, weeks so that
Speaker 1: would take him into you, know a good portion of
Speaker 1: the regular season might be starting on the pup list
Speaker 1: something like. That he had a three, year forty million
Speaker 1: dollar contract was really good for The Super bowl Winning
Speaker 1: seahawks last. Year so that's unfortunate. News and the you,
Speaker 1: know the latest and forty nine ers injury news Is
Speaker 1: Mike evans is now out of.
Speaker 3: Practice i'm not gonna. Panic it's just it's just a
Speaker 3: training camp. Practice But Mike evans isn't going to forget
Speaker 3: how to play.
Speaker 1: Football every everyone's out of practice there that that can
Speaker 1: catch a. Football so you get a little. Worried thank, You,
Speaker 1: patrick thank you for filling, in for jumping in. You
Speaker 1: we Have patrick at least once a week. Lately, yeah
Speaker 1: and you've got your regular day. Job where where can people, See.
Speaker 3: Yeah we've got the insiders coming up at four O'clock.
Speaker 3: Pacific it was the seven O'clock. Eastern BUT i hope
Speaker 3: we don't say see it as filling.
Speaker 1: IN i don't know WHY i said. No i've said
Speaker 1: a lot of things that were. Poor, no in this
Speaker 1: in this, match in this, GAME i called. THAT i,
Speaker 1: mean in this, SHOW i Called Aaron rodgers our guy
Speaker 1: leading into the SOUND i was, like, no not our, guy.
Speaker 3: But but, yeah in the event that it ever is
Speaker 3: getting a chance to do this, Podcast, Greg i'm just
Speaker 3: saying thank.
Speaker 2: You i'm just saying thank you.
Speaker 3: To you And eric and because you, know to be perfectly,
Speaker 3: honest you know who Knows Kyle. Shanahan so we don't
Speaker 3: know where anybody's going to, be and so passing out
Speaker 3: flowers and to you guys have viewers as.
Speaker 2: Well i'm not going.
Speaker 1: ANYWHERE i love that we have started this week so,
Speaker 1: strong back to, back hitting all thirty two teams and
Speaker 1: what's going on in training. Camp we're going to try
Speaker 1: to do that at different points during the regular. Season
Speaker 1: we will be back On tuesday with A news prob
Speaker 1: a news show just kind of like a news catch.
Speaker 1: Up but we're also gonna have a special new guest
Speaker 1: for the show to preview THE Afc. South i'll let
Speaker 1: it be a. Surprise we'll see then