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Speaker 1: It is Wednesday, August. This is Jaguars Happy Hour, Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hours presented by the Fields Auto Group. And now

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Speaker 1: a guy who believes one of the greatest free agency

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Speaker 1: acquisitions of is Bucky Brooks. J. P. Shadrick. I don't

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Speaker 1: think there's any doubt about that. Welcome in Jaguars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour presented by the Fields Auto Group. JP shatterick with you,

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Speaker 1: and we've got a program for you today, keeping the

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Speaker 1: team healthy in a different type of training camp. Will

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Speaker 1: get into maintenance days and what the organization has done

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Speaker 1: a couple of times so far in training camp to

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Speaker 1: keep guys healthy going into the regular season. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: up that defensive line some so many changes there, but

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Speaker 1: Jason Rebovitch, the defensive line coaches you would expect, is

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Speaker 1: excited about the group he has to work with. Have

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Speaker 1: they figured out the left tackle position? We'll hear from

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Speaker 1: George Warhoby, offensive line coach as well, and we'll go

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Speaker 1: around the National Football League. John Osier is with us

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Speaker 1: as always, Bucky Brooks is with us as always, and

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Speaker 1: I gotta John. I must say I think Joe of Fortunato,

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Speaker 1: who does our open was right that this acquisition of

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Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks and free agency. It doesn't get any bigger

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Speaker 1: than that, John Well, I mean not just this offseason,

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Speaker 1: but here. I mean, if Bucky, then maybe plais Leon,

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Speaker 1: sarahcly Keena Macarille, the Buckey number one, no doubt, no

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Speaker 1: doubt that. Yeah, you used to film, but hey, Bucky's

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Speaker 1: the guy to do it. Man, That's how it works.

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Speaker 1: So uh new, what's new this week? Bucky? You're you're

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Speaker 1: out in California. We got another week under our belt

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Speaker 1: with looking around the National Football League here, just big picture,

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Speaker 1: we're another week closer to the season, and it seems

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Speaker 1: like most everybody in the league, at least COVID nineteen

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Speaker 1: wise is healthy. That's another week in the books, and

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Speaker 1: that's a good sign. Bucky. Yeah, it is a good

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Speaker 1: sign that we're able to get through this without a

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Speaker 1: lot of tests pop popping up. It says that the

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Speaker 1: protocols are working. It also says that the players are

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Speaker 1: taken everything seriously. So I'm more optimistic now than ever

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Speaker 1: that we're not only going to get the kick off,

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Speaker 1: but we're gonna have an all stand this season. There

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Speaker 1: may not have any hiccups. John is pretty remarkable to

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Speaker 1: see those numbers that they put out the other day.

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Speaker 1: The league said they were like fifty something thousand tests

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Speaker 1: and of eight thousand different people and zero players tested positives. That,

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Speaker 1: as Bucky said, they're taking it seriously. Now, you just

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Speaker 1: got to get to the starting line and then to

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Speaker 1: the finish line after that. John, that's still a lot

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Speaker 1: to ask, But so far, so good. Well, I thought

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Speaker 1: from day one that the I mean, I think everybody

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Speaker 1: sort of thought this, the reporting stuff was going to

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Speaker 1: cause a lot of brush fires and the meet you mean,

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Speaker 1: they were gonna be the teams that had multiple players report,

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Speaker 1: and the media was gonna go, you know, and I'm

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Speaker 1: criticizing what I used to do obviously, but we're gonna say,

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Speaker 1: oh my goodness, that it will never work. And it

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Speaker 1: was always going to be this period, except it sort

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Speaker 1: of told the tale of training camp. Once they got

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Speaker 1: into the pseudo bubble, how did it work? And I

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Speaker 1: can hear all the naysayers already because you see him

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Speaker 1: on Twitter. Well, this doesn't mean anything. It's whatever happens

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Speaker 1: during the regular season. But try to understand, this is

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Speaker 1: pretty close to zero right now in this bubble. I

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Speaker 1: I think there's gonna be some flare ups. But I'm

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Speaker 1: like Bucky, even more so than in June July. I'm

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Speaker 1: really starting to think that they're gonna pull this thing

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Speaker 1: real tests will come once we get into the regular

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Speaker 1: more than ever, UH players are taking precautions to make

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Speaker 1: sure they protect their teammates. John and your podcast this

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Speaker 1: week the ozone Podcast. Bucky has been a guest on

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Speaker 1: for the Jacksonville Jaguars Omega Partake, Scott Truelock, the head

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Speaker 1: athletic trainer, and Cassie You tell what did you find out?

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Speaker 1: What was the biggest piece of that conversation that stood

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Speaker 1: probably the biggest takeaway, or the biggest thing I was

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Speaker 1: Cassie educating the players every day, because you've got a

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Speaker 1: lot of young guys, and as Bucky knows, football players

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Speaker 1: So they they've had to try to get the players

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Speaker 1: we talked to on the show last week. Players aren't

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Speaker 1: to make mistakes. They realized that their livelihoods, the season,

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Speaker 1: least so far, are very diligent, very professional. They get

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Speaker 1: what has to be done. Yeah, John it's funny that

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Speaker 1: we've seen a couple of examples where UH coach Marone

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Speaker 1: to be very, very professional. We have to take this serious,

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Speaker 1: this pandemic. You know, of all the possible stories like that, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: that's really the only two I've heard of instances like that,

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Speaker 1: which kind of speaks to our point. The players, for

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Speaker 1: of things here. And we discussed this a little bit

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Speaker 1: on Monday Night with Pete Brisco and Tony Boselli on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars happy hour, but that the idea of maintenance days.

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Speaker 1: The other day, Bucky, there were twenty four Jaguars players

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Speaker 1: held inside. Doug Brone said that they still had as

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Speaker 1: much work done inside than they would have had in

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Speaker 1: but it is a shortened padded practice camp. I mean

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Speaker 1: this is an interesting balance. How much work do you

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Speaker 1: as opposed to keeping your team healthy and maybe working

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Speaker 1: surprise you to see Gardner Minshew on that list the

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Speaker 1: to see what happens with Gardner, But it seemed like

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Speaker 1: stro on, he's tough, he's physical. More importantly, he has

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Speaker 1: experienced and when you put an explosive, energetic player like him,

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Speaker 1: besides a Tavin Bryan who's also energetic and explosive man,

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Speaker 1: you now could have problem on your hands. And just

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Speaker 1: know everyone that has been down on Bran the life

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Speaker 1: for young players typically goes off in their third year.

433
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Speaker 1: We finally could see him realize his first round talent

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Speaker 1: this season as the game settles down and slows down

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Speaker 1: for him. Another guy that you mentioned earlier, but he

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Speaker 1: was to want Smoot former well it was just now

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Speaker 1: his fourth year in the NFL, which is crazy to

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Speaker 1: think about, but he he talked this week about you know,

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Speaker 1: he's trying to figure out what he actually is. Is

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Speaker 1: he a big end? Is he a Russian? They moved

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Speaker 1: him around a little bit, and you know, towards the

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Speaker 1: end of last season you started to see him take

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Speaker 1: some strides. What did you see out of him coming

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Speaker 1: out in the draft And how difficult is that sometimes

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Speaker 1: when I mean you have been moved around earlier in

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Speaker 1: career to find out who you what kind of player

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Speaker 1: you really are? Yeah, it's really hard because when you

448
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Speaker 1: really talented, UH, coaches imagination sometimes can run wild. They

449
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Speaker 1: can say, hey, he's a big end, he can go inside,

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Speaker 1: he can do a bunch of different things. And I

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Speaker 1: think for smoothness understanding where do I fit in the puzzle?

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Speaker 1: Can I master my craft at one situation. I think

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Speaker 1: he's more of a big and I think given what

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Speaker 1: they're lacking, I think you want to see if he

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Speaker 1: can be that based defense event. And then because Josh

456
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Speaker 1: Allen is a uniquely talented player, with his athleticism and

457
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Speaker 1: his traits, you want to leave him kind of as

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Speaker 1: the open side, the LEO player, the guy that can

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Speaker 1: kind of run and rush and do a bunch of

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Speaker 1: different things. And so I believe in this defense Smooth

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Speaker 1: his best position to be a based in to play outside,

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Speaker 1: to kind of be the heavy handed player against him run.

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Speaker 1: He didn't get them out like he didn't get can't

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Speaker 1: say Leo Bucky, can't say Leo right here, um and many.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of Smoot, I'll tell you what he is.

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Speaker 1: He's exactly what good defensive lines in this league need.

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Speaker 1: He's not necessarily a front line starter. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's going to Pro Bowl then he's getting twelve sacks.

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Speaker 1: But what he was sort of talking about when he

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Speaker 1: talked to Think it was yesterday, not really knowing what

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Speaker 1: he is. The Jaguars know it is he's a guy

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Speaker 1: who can play all those spots. Four guys never play

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Speaker 1: on the defensive line in the NFL. Good defensive lines

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Speaker 1: has six, seven, eight guys. Think of the Giants when

475
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Speaker 1: they beat the Patriots, superwol you can come in waves.

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Speaker 1: That's what Smoot gives them. He is a guy. If

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Speaker 1: you're a good defensive line, you've got a few Duyne Smoots,

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Speaker 1: because you've got guys who are necessarily superstars, but they're

479
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Speaker 1: really good and they produced when they're in the game.

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Speaker 1: But he's not a Leo. He's not a Leo. I

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Speaker 1: got that leon does not exist a board point point taking.

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Speaker 1: But here's what I say, John, As you make a

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Speaker 1: good observation. And I think a lot of people are

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Speaker 1: so used to thinking that a defensive line has to

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Speaker 1: have guys that ring up these double digit sacks. But

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Speaker 1: you can get away with it if you do it

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Speaker 1: by committee. So let's just say Smooth is able to

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Speaker 1: get you six or seven, Brian gives you four or five.

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Speaker 1: Journal again gets you four or five. But then at

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Speaker 1: the end of the year, if you're sitting around forty

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Speaker 1: to forty five, that's a very productive year for a

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Speaker 1: defensive line. Josh Allen has to carry the weight and

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Speaker 1: maybe you get something from somebody else. But if the

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Speaker 1: rest of the guys can give you four or five apiece,

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Speaker 1: that is more than enough to be an effective unit,

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Speaker 1: particularly against the past. Let's hear from one of the

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Speaker 1: newest members of that defensive line unit, Calevan Chason, first

498
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Speaker 1: round draft pick, and you know, it'd be nice to

499
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Speaker 1: have him obviously contribute to some of those numbers this year.

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Speaker 1: But learning how to do that, he says, won't be

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Speaker 1: much of an issue. I feel like I'm a sell

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Speaker 1: lady learner. M not trying to, you know, go and

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Speaker 1: get to anybody else. But I feel like the way

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Speaker 1: I learned things, it's not really hard for me to

505
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Speaker 1: pick up on anything when it's academically a football like you, um,

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Speaker 1: you give it to me on the playbook, on the video, film,

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Speaker 1: on the field right then and there. I pick up

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Speaker 1: fast and I learned quick. So that's never really kind

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Speaker 1: of being anything. No learning curve hell back for me. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I kind of just been putting in the work every

511
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Speaker 1: day when it comes to watching film or studying the

512
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Speaker 1: playbook or even being on the field. I'm taking a

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Speaker 1: step by step, day by day and just trying to

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Speaker 1: learn from everything. Bucky, I'll start with you here on

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Speaker 1: Chase on You know, his sample size of L s

516
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Speaker 1: U were somewhat limited because of injury down there, and

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Speaker 1: he's still a very young man, um so what did

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Speaker 1: you make when he was out there? Obviously, and you know,

519
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: being that locked in as he says he is, that

520
00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: can only help a young player when he's trying to

521
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Speaker 1: transition to a new league like this one. Yeah, look,

522
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Speaker 1: Jason is an else an athlete. Looking back at my nose,

523
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Speaker 1: I talked about being an urgent athlete. He was energetic,

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Speaker 1: did a great job of running and chasing and playing

525
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Speaker 1: from snap to whistle. The thing that he is right

526
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Speaker 1: now is he's a newbie when it comes to being

527
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Speaker 1: a pass rusher meeting. He doesn't have the full repertoire

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Speaker 1: pass or skills to be able to really throw a

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Speaker 1: bunch of different pitches at blockers. That said, his first step,

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Speaker 1: quickness and his verse, he can be a guy that

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Speaker 1: was very effective similar to Yannicking Gockway when he came

532
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Speaker 1: into the league. He may not have everything at his disposal,

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Speaker 1: but his speed, energy and tempo could enable him to

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Speaker 1: be a guy against eight to ten sacks. Just playing

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00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: on sheer talent, you put that opposite of Josh Allen

536
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Speaker 1: because he is going to command double teams. He can

537
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Speaker 1: win one on once and that could be enough to

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Speaker 1: be a contributing factor right away as a rookie. It

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Speaker 1: sounds John like what Josh Allen was last year. You know,

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Speaker 1: if you're hearing Jeff Logavan say it in the last

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Speaker 1: week or so, Allen on talent alone, got a lot

542
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Speaker 1: of those sacks last year. Now you're starting to put

543
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Speaker 1: some some pass rush moves together with that. John. That's

544
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: a big difference. Yeah. And as far as Chase and

545
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Speaker 1: you know, he has this athletic ability that jumps off

546
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,080
Speaker 1: the page when you're watching practice. You know, if you

547
00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,800
Speaker 1: do anything about football, your eyes are drawn to him

548
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 1: and you say, who's that guy? He looks different than

549
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Speaker 1: everybody else. I think what's most encouraging for me on Chason.

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Speaker 1: I haven't had a chance to talk to him face

551
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Speaker 1: to face all the COVID stuff, but in listening to

552
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Speaker 1: him in a few interviews and then making some calls

553
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Speaker 1: and talking to people who have dealt with him inside

554
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Speaker 1: the organization, his ability to communicate his maturity. JP. You

555
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Speaker 1: remember this from Josh Allen last year as soon as

556
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Speaker 1: Josh walked in the building, he felt different. When you

557
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Speaker 1: talked to him. You knew he was going to gravitate

558
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Speaker 1: the calais. You knew he was going to do the

559
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Speaker 1: right things. And he held that all season, showing maturity

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Speaker 1: on many different ways that I don't see very often

561
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Speaker 1: from Rook From what you hear, Halevan is that thing

562
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Speaker 1: kind of kid. To me, that's the key. There's no

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Speaker 1: question about his athletic ability. If he combines that with

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Speaker 1: this Josh Allen type maturity, that's what makes Josh the

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Speaker 1: whole package. Boy, then you've got something special out of

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Speaker 1: those two guys. It's too early to know on Caleban yet,

567
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: but those signs to me are even more encouraging than

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Speaker 1: what you see on the field because those signs mean

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Speaker 1: he's gonna take advantage of his God given talent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you, John, because he does have god

571
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Speaker 1: get given talent. This was a big time basketball player

572
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Speaker 1: coming up, someone who is still I would say, kind

573
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Speaker 1: of new to the game in the position as it

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00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,600
Speaker 1: comes to being a pass rusher. But the reason I

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Speaker 1: think is really important to talk about yannicking Goquay is

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Speaker 1: because no one expected and got Wai to be the

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Speaker 1: player that he emerged as for the Jaguars when he

578
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Speaker 1: was drafted out of Maryland. I'm gonna say Chason is

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Speaker 1: a more explosive, dynamic and athletic um prospect coming out. Now.

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Speaker 1: It may take him a while to put it together,

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Speaker 1: but there's no reason why early in his career he

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Speaker 1: can't be a contributor despite not really knowing what he's

583
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Speaker 1: doing coming off the edge. He's a better run player. Yes,

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Speaker 1: then in Goay was coming out. I think has made

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Speaker 1: him a first round pick and you assume it will

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Speaker 1: be much stouter against the run in his career. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think he has a lot of

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Speaker 1: talent you're now putting him. And also this, I think

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Speaker 1: the observation was made by both of you guys. You

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Speaker 1: talked about his maturity. Because now Josh Allen is the

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Speaker 1: leader of their room, we'll just assume he's the leader

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Speaker 1: that de limee room. That competition is going to force

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Speaker 1: Chason to step up his game because of the way

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Speaker 1: that he talks about wanting to get it. He is

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Speaker 1: going to be in Josh Allen's hip pocket. I think

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Speaker 1: that bowls well for the Jaguars. Not in but in

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Speaker 1: two and beyond. All right, let's I like that. That's

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Speaker 1: a that's a good sign for the organization for sure,

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Speaker 1: and and and don't fret about the defensive line. According

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Speaker 1: to now is he can take all the practice he's

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Speaker 1: out there and all the practice he's taken, all the reps.

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Speaker 1: Uh there's been, uh been to this point, no issues

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Speaker 1: with him physically. Uh So, I mean he can just

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Speaker 1: keep going and getting better and we don't have to

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Speaker 1: worry about managing him like we did last year. George Warhop,

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Speaker 1: the offensive line coach for the Jags, and the Jaguars

647
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Speaker 1: will be back out on the Dream Finders Homes practice

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Speaker 1: complex tomorrow morning and Friday as well, and then into

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Speaker 1: the stadium on Saturday for scrimmage. But there you have it.

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Speaker 1: There's a look at the practice fields for now. Players

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Speaker 1: off day today, Welcome back, j P. Shatrick, Bucky Brooks,

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Speaker 1: John Oser, Jaguars. Happy our rolls along and there has

653
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Speaker 1: been a little bit of a development at the offensive

654
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Speaker 1: line since we last spoke Bucky, and that was the development,

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Speaker 1: George Warhop saying, well, yeah, he's important, Cam Robinson, because

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be our starting left tackle. We had talked

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Speaker 1: and there's been a little rumble of some competition you know,

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Speaker 1: in camp. But Cam Robinson, at least Warhop said it,

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Speaker 1: you know, has played the position much more obviously, and

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Speaker 1: coming into camp was way ahead of Will Richardson. Now

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Speaker 1: Richardson's working his way into and being comfortable at left tackle.

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Speaker 1: But Cam Robinson is the guy. And I will say

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Speaker 1: the other day, it must have been yesterday Cam Robinson

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Speaker 1: and one on ones against Josh Allen. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he lost against Josh Allen yesterday. So you see a

666
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Speaker 1: guy who's motivated, who's in pretty good shape, who, according

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Speaker 1: to Tony Boselli, has worked on his footwork and things

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Speaker 1: are going well for Cam Robinson. That's a good sign, Bucky. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it is a very good sign to to hear those things.

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Speaker 1: To hear uh, Jory's talking about what he's doing, him

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Speaker 1: being in trench at left tackle, Tony Basselli talking about

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Speaker 1: his improved footwork. Because coming out of Alabama, this was

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Speaker 1: a ball of brawler. This was someone who was expected

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Speaker 1: to be really a key player more as a run

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Speaker 1: blocker than as a pass protector, and so a lot

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Speaker 1: of how effective you will be we'll really depend on

677
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:04,880
Speaker 1: the design of the offense. Will we see the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: commit the running to football. It's been a lot of

679
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Speaker 1: time going forward with the offensive line instead of back feddling,

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Speaker 1: because if we see them go forward, would they run

681
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Speaker 1: throw off flay action? I think we will see the

682
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Speaker 1: best version of Cam Robinson this season. John, how about

683
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 1: George Warhop there and and and Cam's development over time? Here?

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Speaker 1: You know this is this is a line you can

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Speaker 1: start left tackle all the way across. They're all back

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Speaker 1: from last year. But that's been the focus I think

687
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 1: of a lot of conversation in the offense. Uh, this

688
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 1: whole offseason is that left tackle position? And here it

689
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Speaker 1: is contract year for Cam coming up. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: my question that it prompted the answer and Bucky, as

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Speaker 1: you know, it's not the first time that one of

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Speaker 1: my questions has been absolutely laughed at with this Dane

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Speaker 1: the way he did it. Uh. I wonder with Cam

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Speaker 1: Robinson if we fully grasp as non players something like

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Speaker 1: JP and I, how much the A C L can

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Speaker 1: set you back and how much of an issue it

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Speaker 1: can be to try to return from that. The following season,

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Speaker 1: war Hoop talked about the biggest differ between Cam is

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Speaker 1: he's able to practice every day. They're not maintaining him,

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Speaker 1: to use that word, but they're not trying just to

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Speaker 1: get him on the field. It sounds for listen to

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Speaker 1: war up in Moron that there were many games last

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Speaker 1: season where they were just trying to get Cam. I

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Speaker 1: think it was Marone used the word just trying to

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Speaker 1: get him to survive. Um, if that's what's going on,

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Speaker 1: If he's back to where he was trying to get

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Speaker 1: to before the injury, and if Seli is right that

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Speaker 1: he has improved that much, then he is the key

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Speaker 1: to the whole thing, then maybe that's what was missing

710
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: last year. Bucky. I'm curious if if you ain, most

711
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Speaker 1: fans grasp how difficult it can be for a player

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Speaker 1: when he's not able to practice a dent the way

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Speaker 1: Cam Wasn't you know, it's a huge challenge coming off

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Speaker 1: in a c L injury. Normally John and JP, it

715
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Speaker 1: takes about two years before you see that player returned

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Speaker 1: to the form that we saw him prior to the injury.

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Speaker 1: For Cam, this would be the first offseason. I mean,

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Speaker 1: this would be the off season where he was able

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Speaker 1: to actually work on his skills, meaning his fundamentals and

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Speaker 1: footwork instead of rehabbing. That makes a huge difference in

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Speaker 1: his development. One of the reasons why he is more

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Speaker 1: comfortable in practice now is because even though they didn't

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Speaker 1: have a true or traditional offseason, he was able to

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Speaker 1: do football stuff as opposed to rehab. That has made

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00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: the difference. And don't underestimate the confidence coming back in

726
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: terms of the confidence in the knee. He now knows

727
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Speaker 1: he can make all the movements. When you have that

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Speaker 1: twins of doubt, a lot of times you're thinking about

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Speaker 1: your leg and you can't think about the technique better

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Speaker 1: or even the opponent that you're facing. Now he's able

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Speaker 1: to really focus on the football part of playing the position.

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Speaker 1: Let's touch on one of the new editions on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line this year, Ben BArch Division three player from St.

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Speaker 1: John's up in Minnesota, and he first came Bucky on

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00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: a lot of our radars because it was Smoothie at

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Speaker 1: the draft. You know, not many at least around here,

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Speaker 1: I don't think watch Division three football. Um, how well

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Speaker 1: known was he in the scouting community going into the draft,

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Speaker 1: and you know, it seems like so far he's been

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Speaker 1: able to do certain things in camp that make you say, Okay,

741
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,920
Speaker 1: this guy has a future of some kind. Don't know

742
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Speaker 1: exactly what it is yet, but um, how does he

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Speaker 1: continue to develop and when did he When did you

744
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: first hear about Ben bart Well? Obviously on the All

745
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: Star circuit his name was prominent because you don't find

746
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Speaker 1: many D three players that are able to play at

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00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: EASTAI in college All Star games, and then when you

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00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,000
Speaker 1: have an opportunity to watch him play, he's competitive, he battled,

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Speaker 1: he didn't look like the game was too big for him.

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Speaker 1: And so the biggest transition that you have to worry

751
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Speaker 1: about when you get a player that is playing coming

752
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 1: from playing D three ball to now playing in the

753
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Speaker 1: National Football League, how long does it take him to

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Speaker 1: get acclimated to the speed, tempo, and strengthened power of

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00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: the game and the opponents that he faces. By all accounts,

756
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: he's been able to hold his own and so it

757
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: may be ugly at times this year as he's transitioning,

758
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: but as he settles in. This was a player there

759
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:36,920
Speaker 1: was a dominant player on the D three level. If

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Speaker 1: he can settle in and kind of have that confidence,

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Speaker 1: he can be a very solid player on the interior. John,

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Speaker 1: I was interested to see him in person just to

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Speaker 1: see is he just a skinny guy that put on

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Speaker 1: a bunch of weight. But I don't think he's that.

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Speaker 1: I think he's broader than I expected just in general.

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Speaker 1: And then he put on all the weight with that,

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Speaker 1: Well so are you and I j So that's uh,

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Speaker 1: he's with that right with us. He Uh, he's not

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Speaker 1: overwhelmed at all. And I think the key to him

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Speaker 1: not being overwhelmed is as you said, he fits physically. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Had he played at Division one school in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of years that he transferred from, it was I

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Speaker 1: think he would have done fine. I talked to him

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Speaker 1: once in a and o z own conversation that we did.

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Speaker 1: I think it was mayor June talked to him face

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Speaker 1: to face. What I was impressed with with him is

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Speaker 1: he sort of understood the line of questioning about Hey,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be about transitioning from Division three, it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be about all those things he's always heard, and he's

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Speaker 1: not hockey about it. But you got the feeling that

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Speaker 1: it didn't surprise him when he did well at the

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Speaker 1: Senior Bowl. He said there was pressure because it's always pressure.

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Speaker 1: It's it's it's the biggest moment of his life. But

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Speaker 1: and he wasn't a prize to be competing at that level.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's surprised that he's holding his own

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Speaker 1: against these NFL players. He did very well against Journey

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Speaker 1: in the first day. He's lost a couple and one

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Speaker 1: on ones. But I look at him as a guy.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's ready to start immediately. It wouldn't

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Speaker 1: surprise me if he's pushing a j can By somewhere

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Speaker 1: during the season. And I think if forced to play,

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Speaker 1: I think this guy will do okay because I don't

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Speaker 1: think the acclamation is gonna take him as long as

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Speaker 1: maybe conventional wisdom says about a Division three player. I agree.

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Speaker 1: I don't think this transition would be nearly as long

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Speaker 1: as good as the company that he keeps around him.

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Speaker 1: And I also think the neighborhood meeting, the guys playing

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Speaker 1: practice before mic dub. Segment will be available later tonight

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Speaker 1: on at Jaguars social media, Jaguars dot Com, and Jaguar's YouTube.

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen We've had touched on him a moment ago,

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Speaker 1: but you see a little bit of personality there. Welcome

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Speaker 1: back Jaguars Happy Hour JP, Shadrick Buckey Brooks, John Os,

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Speaker 1: You're glad you're along with US Today, UH and Jaguars

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Speaker 1: Happy Hour is brought to you by the Fields Cadillac

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Speaker 1: Group in Jacksonville and Fields Cadillac St. August Team members

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Speaker 1: of the Fields Auto Group. Let's go around before we

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Speaker 1: go around the league, Bucky, did you ever wear a

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Speaker 1: microphone during a game when you played Curious? I never

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Speaker 1: had the opportunity to wear a microphone, but I would

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Speaker 1: have loved it. I would have loved to have like

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Speaker 1: a running dialogue for everyone to hear my inner thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that it always would have been positive.

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Speaker 1: Would have been a lot of fun for me to

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Speaker 1: share an express Maybe they have to put it on

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Speaker 1: cable not over the year. I have a question. Yes,

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Speaker 1: of course I would nobody who want to hear it?

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Speaker 1: But um, Josh Allen, I never were going around the league.

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Speaker 1: I've said it before, but every time I see the kid,

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Speaker 1: to me, he is the hope for this franchise and

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Speaker 1: Bucky talked about in the show. I am as excited

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Speaker 1: and optimistic about the franchise because of him. I didn't

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Speaker 1: cover Peyton's rookie year in India, covered him for ten

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Speaker 1: years after that. To me, Josh Allen is the best

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Speaker 1: young player the Jaguars have had in terms of culture

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Speaker 1: everything you want, uh, maybe since Bisselli back in the day,

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Speaker 1: maybe since Fred Taylor, maybe since guys like that. He

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Speaker 1: is unbelievable in terms of what you want to see.

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Speaker 1: To me, he's the reason that I have hoped for

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Speaker 1: this franchise. Three unbelievable model draft pick to me, you

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Speaker 1: know John two piggyback off of that. Coaches will always

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Speaker 1: tell you the best teams, the best players are their

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Speaker 1: hardest workers, and so Josh Allen is going to carry

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Speaker 1: currency in that locker room because he not only has

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Speaker 1: a production, he has the performance, but also the way

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Speaker 1: he goes about his business. The young players that walk

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Speaker 1: into that locker room will now step up their game

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Speaker 1: because they know the best player always has his engine

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Speaker 1: running hot when he steps into the field. So check

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Speaker 1: out Josh Allen. Mike Top coming up a little later

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Speaker 1: tonight on Jaguars dot com, the Jaguars YouTube accounting at

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Speaker 1: Jaguars on social media. Let's go around the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: The Arizona Cardinals made but A Baker the highest paid

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Speaker 1: safety in NFL history four years fifty nine million dollars

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Speaker 1: in the extension, but Bucky, he has exactly zero career interception.

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Speaker 1: What's interceptions? What gives? Oh? It speaks to the changing

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Speaker 1: dynamic of the safety position. We have seen it. Uh,

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Speaker 1: These safeties that are dropping down in the box, playing

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Speaker 1: like linebackers and doing a bunch of different things tackles, sacks,

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Speaker 1: forced bumbles, being able to get around the ball and

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Speaker 1: a varied different ways. Those things matter much more than

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Speaker 1: just interceptions. That the safe the position a lot of

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Speaker 1: money for safety. John. Yeah, good day to be a

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Speaker 1: friend of him. And I'm calling him if I know

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Speaker 1: it's you need I thank you need greatness of that

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Speaker 1: position these days, Cardinals are clearly paying for it. It

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Speaker 1: brings me back to the Jaguars. I hope they can

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Speaker 1: get some level of play out of that position for

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Speaker 1: them this year. I think it's key. The Detroit Lions

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Speaker 1: yesterday decided to forego practice to protest the shooting of

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Speaker 1: Jacob Blake and Kenosha Wisconsin. Uh. It's the most public

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Speaker 1: display I think from the NFL team since that moment

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Speaker 1: just a few days ago. Bucky. This is obviously a

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Speaker 1: huge time for protests and things of that sort around

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Speaker 1: these type situations, but it's another situations, and the Lions

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Speaker 1: decided to take a big step, and that is a

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Speaker 1: big step to skip a practice. Yeah, I think it's

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Speaker 1: a big step. And what I think we're seeing and

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Speaker 1: learning his map. Patrician is really trying to do a

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Speaker 1: better job of connected with his locker room. Whenever you

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Speaker 1: have these player led things and everyone was filling on board,

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Speaker 1: including the coaches, it kind of brings the team together,

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Speaker 1: much like we saw some of the protests that took

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Speaker 1: place in Jacksonville and the team went out to support

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Speaker 1: those things. Can't bring your luck room together if handled

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Speaker 1: in the right way. Yeah, John Dubucky's point there. We

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Speaker 1: saw it firsthand with Doug Marone and the Jaguars getting

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Speaker 1: together this offseason too, to go to the police station

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Speaker 1: and go downtown and do these things together. Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: I think you're going to see more of it. I

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Speaker 1: get there are fans who email with all the time, Hey,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see this. I want this as

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Speaker 1: a break. The reality is athletics, sports and politics, culture,

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Speaker 1: whatever you call it, have combined for years. Players it's

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Speaker 1: okay for them to have opinions and actions on things

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Speaker 1: they feel passionately about. Here's our weekly Joe Judge segments

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Speaker 1: in New York Today. He said that the Giants have

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Speaker 1: thought about taking Daniel Jones's red jersey off to quote

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Speaker 1: pop his pads a little bit before the season opener. Uh,

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Speaker 1: they said there aren't going to throw him into the

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Speaker 1: quote royal rumble or anything. Bucky, what in the world

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Speaker 1: is this about? Hey, look man, Joe Judge, how are

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Speaker 1: you trying to establish a new identity for the New

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Speaker 1: York Giants. He wants to be a tough team. He

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Speaker 1: wants to be projected as a tough minded coach. But

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Speaker 1: this would be stupid. And I mean, this is this

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Speaker 1: is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. To expose your quarterback,

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Speaker 1: the most important position on the field, to unnecessary It's

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Speaker 1: I don't understand why George would even consider that. They

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Speaker 1: want to play football for New York the football Giants. John, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what's next? Put him in the Oklahoma draw? I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's it's ah. I doubt he'll actually do it. You

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Speaker 1: would think if they do do it, it would be

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Speaker 1: one play and get him out to serve a point.

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Speaker 1: But I agree with Buddy, I mean, I agree with Bucky.

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Speaker 1: Come on, come on, A couple of final thoughts here.

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Speaker 1: Bengals quarterback Mackenzie Alexander left the team after his father

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Speaker 1: wouldn't missing and call your county, Florida. That's deep southwest Florida,

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Speaker 1: Naples area. Uh. And he was later arrested on one

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Speaker 1: kind of battery, allegedly confronted the man who left behind

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Speaker 1: his father on a very picking trip. This thing is

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Speaker 1: still up in the air. He's I think about to

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Speaker 1: be or has just been released on bond, so he's

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Speaker 1: gonna help the search. That's a it's a tragic story.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it ends positively bucky, but that's a it's a

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Speaker 1: crazy situation for him right now. Yes, certainly you're crazy

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Speaker 1: since you waste and uh. Dawson prayers the McKenzie Alexander

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Speaker 1: and his family hopefully they can find his dad. But

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't condone the behavior. But I do understand if

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Speaker 1: I mean, I can understand why McKenzie Alexander was very

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Speaker 1: that's a strange one there, and just that we hope

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Speaker 1: that things end well, John, I'm interested in your commentary

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Speaker 1: on this. Next one in the league is considering the

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Speaker 1: use of artificial crowd noise in the range of seventy

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Speaker 1: to eighty five decibels for games without fans present. It

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Speaker 1: would likely be constant throughout the game. What do you

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Speaker 1: make of it? Yeah, I guess I'll have to hear

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Speaker 1: it and see it. At first, I kind of get

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Speaker 1: the instinct, um you know, I'm I'm hesitant on it.

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Speaker 1: At the same time, I think it would be equally

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Speaker 1: weird to sit there as a fan and watch a

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Speaker 1: game where they're complete silence. So, you know, I haven't

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Speaker 1: played in quite Frankly, I often prefer silence because I'm

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Speaker 1: be more interested to hear what Bucky, Who's played, Who's who,

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Speaker 1: Who's in that environment. In that world, it doesn't bother

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Speaker 1: me to have silent, But I'm usually in a very

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Speaker 1: working capacity at the game. Bucky. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: it's I think it's weird to have piped in noise.

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Speaker 1: We've seen it work a little bit in the bubble,

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Speaker 1: but I think at the end of the day, it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really matter. I think once players get in and

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Speaker 1: they see the opposing team, they kind of lock into

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Speaker 1: the competition. Maybe from a TV viewing perspective, it helps,

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Speaker 1: but I don't know. It's all kind of weird when

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Speaker 1: it's it's like a video game. To me, I can

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Speaker 1: see piping in for the broadcast makes a little more sense,

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Speaker 1: I guess. But I guess I'll have to see and

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Speaker 1: understand it more to have a hot take on it. JP.

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Speaker 1: But we've well, some teams might have experience already with it.

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Speaker 1: We've seen some stories. I just said that. I just

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Speaker 1: said that, Bucky um So and then we and it's

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Speaker 1: with without fans present. So the Jaguars by that would

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Speaker 1: not be involved in this because they're planning on having

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Speaker 1: fans present for the game. That's our look around the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. Bucky, we fooled him again, John, we

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Speaker 1: did it. Yeah. I'm just trying to keep up with

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Speaker 1: no no, no, we did. You guys make me take

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Speaker 1: my game up and that I'm challenged. I'm challenged each

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Speaker 1: every week. I love it. Well, we're just getting started.

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Speaker 1: We're two down and uh a whole bunch to go

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Speaker 1: on Wednesdays. We appreciate it. As always, John will look

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Speaker 1: forward to your riding throughout the week. Bucky will catch

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Speaker 1: up with you again next week. Thanks to our entire

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Speaker 1: crew for Bucky and John, I'm J. P. Shadrick at you.

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Speaker 1: Next week, it's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.