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Speaker 1: They got nowhere to go. The biggest line yesterday in

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Speaker 2: That's Chinese Achilles the oil energy. See, we took a

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Speaker 2: couple of minutes of your time. I appreciate your time.

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Speaker 2: we'll have a little bit more time. If you're here Friday,

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Speaker 1: I'm around by the way, you're you're the best. You're

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Speaker 2: I think you might be here still have a great

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Speaker 1: Okay, you're in the war room. We're going to pack

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Speaker 3: Bus to take care of the illegal fuseration traump.

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Speaker 4: When you can we.

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Speaker 5: See that happen, do you think, well, the Constitution is

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Speaker 5: Congress passed the body of law known as the Immigration Nationality.

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Speaker 5: That's the judicial branch of a jurisdiction over immigration cases.

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Speaker 6: You've also witnessed that the Democrats here today and also

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Speaker 1: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray

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Speaker 2: I wish in my soul, I wish that any of

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Speaker 1: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 9: If that answer is to save my country, this country.

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Speaker 3: Will be to say, here's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 10: Well, I think he nailed it. There's just a lot

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Speaker 11: Everyone watching. This is the reason this may end up happening.

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Speaker 10: And I do agree there is a process that needs

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Speaker 11: Twenty million people coming across the boarder.

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Speaker 11: And if not, what is thirty million? Forty milion?

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Speaker 10: And so there is a process that needs to play

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Speaker 10: let's do this. But every time the deep state, these

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Speaker 10: They did it with the impeachment, they abused it, he

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Speaker 11: And now they're doing it with a judicial coup. Right.

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Speaker 11: A country anymore. It will be toast. It will be done.

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Speaker 10: Which is why I think in hindsight and historical hindsight,

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Speaker 1: Three just facts. I want to go back drive you

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Speaker 1: because it was an invasion. People are like, you know,

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Speaker 1: one hundred and seventy billion dollars in the Reconciliation bill

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Speaker 1: Bat So Rogan. Take a second here. I want to

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Speaker 1: go back to the twenty thirty census. Demographically, the country

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Speaker 1: walk us through the twenty thirty census. Why is it

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Speaker 10: Yeah, absolutely, Steve. I mean this is this is the

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Speaker 1: going to go to your solution, Rogan. Where do people

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Speaker 11: Thank you, Steve.

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Speaker 10: You can find me DC underscore DRAINO on all the

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Speaker 1: Them out right there, put them right at the border. Rogan. Fantastic,

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Speaker 1: Thank you, DC Draino. Amazing, changing the course of American history.

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Speaker 1: That shows you the power of your agency, your thinking,

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Speaker 9: Hello, everybody, Councilman elect Morano at least for a little

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Speaker 9: while longer, because I'm about to go to city Hall

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Speaker 9: Of all boats, what boat do we end up on?

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Speaker 9: The only vote that's still in service was well one,

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Speaker 12: I Frank Morano, I Frank Morano, do solemnly swear, do

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Speaker 12: And then I will faithfully discharge and that I will

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Speaker 11: Huge for a few reasons.

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Speaker 9: One because it's in the heart of New York City,

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Speaker 11: A very populist platform.

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Speaker 9: My victory shows that the future of the Republican Party,

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Speaker 9: populist conservatism. That's what I want to bring to the

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Speaker 9: This time it's a Republican primary, and if people want

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Speaker 1: Frank Charlie Spearing, one of the best reporters out there,

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Speaker 1: the next election. Do you think do you think there's

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Speaker 1: any chance that really MAGA types can make a run

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Speaker 1: at more council seats, actually take out maybe the local DA,

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Speaker 1: even the mayor, the governor. Is this real? Is New

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Speaker 1: York going MAGA?

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Speaker 11: Absolutely?

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Speaker 9: I mean, I think it's a long way before Manhattan

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Speaker 9: elects a Republican or a Conservative or a Magada.

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Speaker 11: But everything else that you just described is very possible.

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Speaker 11: I think there's a real Look you look see what's

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Speaker 11: going on in the mayor's race.

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Speaker 9: You see the incumbent Democratic mayor Eric Adams, who four

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Speaker 9: years ago ran on a platform of being Al Sharpton's

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Speaker 9: best friend. Now he went from being the Biden of

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Speaker 9: Brooklyn to the Trump of City Hall.

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Speaker 11: He's running on a Trumpian platform.

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Speaker 9: Even Andrew Cuomo, who couldn't bast Trump enough enough during COVID,

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Speaker 9: he is going out of his way not to alienate

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Speaker 9: Trump or Trump's supporters, and on a lot of criminal

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Speaker 9: justice issues, He's running a very different campaign from the one.

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Speaker 11: That he did when he was governor. Now.

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Speaker 9: I don't think these guys have really changed their tune

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Speaker 9: all that much, but I think it's a reflection and

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Speaker 9: a realization on their part that the voters are waking

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Speaker 9: up that the voters have changed their tune. Not only

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Speaker 9: do I think there's a real chance to get Governor

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Speaker 9: Kathy Hokle out next year, I think there's a great

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Speaker 9: chance to pick up more Maga City Council seats in

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Speaker 9: New York City, but I think there's a fighting chance

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Speaker 9: that we could actually see someone like it. Curtis Lee

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Speaker 9: will win the mayor of New York City this year,

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Speaker 9: which would be a political earthquake the likes of which

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Speaker 9: we haven't seen since Juliani won in ninety three.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Frank as you know this is, this is I

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Speaker 1: don't need to tell you because you know him so

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Speaker 1: well that this is very close to President Trump's heart.

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Speaker 1: What do we get about a minute? What do you

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Speaker 1: think we need to do as a movement to help

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Speaker 1: our brothers and sisters up and our MAGA brothers and

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Speaker 1: sisters in New York, Sir?

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Speaker 11: A couple things.

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Speaker 9: One, you can go to my website moranofcuncil dot com,

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Speaker 9: make a contribution, help us out. But also, don't be

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Speaker 9: fooled into labels. Don't be fooled because someone says they're

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Speaker 9: a Republican into thinking.

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Speaker 11: They believe the same things that you believe.

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Speaker 9: In the point that you and others have made that

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Speaker 9: there are times when some somebody that's been a Republican

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Speaker 9: elected official for the last thirty thirty five years they

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Speaker 9: have a lot more in common with the Democratic establishment

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Speaker 9: than they do with Donald Trump and the populist conservative right.

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Speaker 9: This is such an exciting time, but it's only an

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Speaker 9: exciting time, and it's only a promising time if we

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Speaker 9: wake up and take this party from the DC swamp

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Speaker 9: creatures that have done such a miserable job running it

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Speaker 9: in a Bush era.

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Speaker 11: The Bush era is dead.

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Speaker 9: Let's have the Trump era, and let's make this party

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Speaker 9: into a populist party with a big tent that we

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Speaker 9: can all be proud of.

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Speaker 1: Frank social media and website where do people go?

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Speaker 9: Moranofocouncil dot com, moranof Council dot com or Frank Morano

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Speaker 9: on Twitter, Frank Morano on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Brother, thank you for coming on and thank you for fighting,

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Speaker 1: fighting on to victory. Fantastic. Everybody's jacked up.

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Speaker 11: Thank you, sir, Thank you for having me.

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Speaker 9: Just being on your show really gave me such credibility

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Speaker 9: with conservative and Trumpian circles.

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Speaker 11: I can't thank you enough for that. I'm going to

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Speaker 11: be in your debt for a long time.

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Speaker 1: No, sir, you're you're, You're you. Every day, you guys

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Speaker 1: are getting you're you're the you're taking the incoming. It's

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Speaker 1: really incredible. And keep fighting.

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Speaker 9: And well, we're going to get pambomb Pambondi to shut

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Speaker 9: down this sanctuary city joke that New York City has

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Speaker 9: become and in New York City's sanctuary city status. That

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Speaker 9: was my first act since being elected is to sign

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Speaker 9: on to that letter asking the Attorney.

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Speaker 11: General to do just that. We're hoping she does.

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Speaker 1: Amen. Thank you, sir, appreciate you. The fight in New

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Speaker 1: York City, the fight in Manhattan. You've got Jackie Toberoff

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Speaker 1: all the time. They're fighters. These are maga out there

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Speaker 1: on Long Island in an upstate New York. Upstate New

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Speaker 1: York's Maga country. I'm telling you we're going to take

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Speaker 1: New York. You can see the tectonic play shift that's happening.

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Speaker 1: Short commercial break. E j Antoni with some reality checks

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Speaker 1: about the numbers.

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Speaker 13: Next, So if you take a look at my bottom

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Speaker 13: lines of budget reconciliation, the first principle, when we're thirty

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Speaker 13: seven trillion dollars in debt, according to CBO, will be

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Speaker 13: about fifty nine to sixty trillion dollars in twenty thirty five,

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Speaker 13: my first principle would be, let's bend that curve down.

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Speaker 13: Let's make sure that whatever we do, we don't increase

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Speaker 13: the deficit. But right now I think we're on track

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Speaker 13: to increase the deficit.

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Speaker 10: But are they listening to you, like, do you do

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Speaker 10: you feel like they're potentially going on?

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Speaker 3: What's they all agree with me?

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Speaker 13: So I agree with what you're saying, but you know

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Speaker 13: that ship is sailed just to you know what, I reply,

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Speaker 13: will call it back to port because I think that

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Speaker 13: other ship with the big beautiful bill, I think that's

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Speaker 13: the Titanic. I think that's going down because I think

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Speaker 13: I have enough colleagues in the Senate that this has

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Speaker 13: resonated with that are saying, yeah, we've got to return

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Speaker 13: to a reasonable pre pandemic level spending.

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Speaker 3: But I always add this plus a process to achieve

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Speaker 3: it and maintain it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, And Tony EJ we had Senator Johnson on this morning.

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Speaker 1: He's warning about, hey, we're going to blow if. First off,

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Speaker 1: he makes a point that you make the debt's not

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Speaker 1: going up because Besson's doing a great job of bailing

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Speaker 1: water out of the boat. But as soon as we

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Speaker 1: get the debt sealing pass is going to be another

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Speaker 1: five run a bay inter tree and on the official

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Speaker 1: debt that gets counted up. So we're north of thirty

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Speaker 1: seven right now. He's saying, hey, look, every senator agrees

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Speaker 1: that the glide sloper on or the path we're on

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Speaker 1: gets a sixty three dollars in ten years and the

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Speaker 1: country's over.

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Speaker 14: What's the use sir, well, Steve, I think that's right.

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Speaker 14: And the Senator really hit the nail on the head

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Speaker 14: here when he said, everybody agrees this is a problem.

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Speaker 7: Right, You're not going to find anybody who.

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Speaker 14: Just shrugs their shoulders at this problem and says, oh, no,

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Speaker 14: don't worry about it. It's it's going to be fine. No, literally,

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Speaker 14: nobody says it's going to be fine. Everyone knows we're

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Speaker 14: going over the fiscal cliff. But what's everybody's answer? Start

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Speaker 14: cutting spending. Just don't start with my stuff. You can't

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Speaker 14: cut my pet projects, you can't cut stuff from my

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Speaker 14: district or my constituents.

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Speaker 7: You have to cut everywhere else.

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Speaker 14: Well, when that is everyone's attitude, then absolutely nothing gets cut.

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Speaker 14: And that's how we got to where we are today.

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Speaker 14: And I think that's part of the hold up right

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Speaker 14: now with the current tax cut bill. Is everybody, both

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Speaker 14: whether it's Democrat or Republican, doesn't matter. Almost every member

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Speaker 14: of Congress, there's very few exceptions, are genuinely willing to

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Speaker 14: cut the things that need to be cut. And it's

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Speaker 14: becoming not just problematic, it's going to become catastrophic.

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Speaker 1: So what then is to be done? I mean, he says,

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Speaker 1: and he came on today that behind closed doors, all

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Speaker 1: the Senators agree we have to go to pre pandemic.

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Speaker 1: We've got to go back to Trump's golden year of

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen. One do you think that's feasible? And two,

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Speaker 1: then why are we not doing the work right now

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Speaker 1: make that happen.

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Speaker 14: Well, it's certainly feasible, Steve, I just can't, for the

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Speaker 14: life of me understand why the leadership in both the

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Speaker 14: House and the Senate are not making that a reality.

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Speaker 14: I mean, my goodness, ninety five percent of the spending

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Speaker 14: that you would cut out to get us back to

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Speaker 14: those twenty nineteen levels is all stuff that.

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Speaker 7: The Democrats did.

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Speaker 14: It's not stuff that the Democrats or that the Republicans

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Speaker 14: voted for that you can repeal the entire IRA, for example,

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Speaker 14: that would save hundreds of billions of dollars.

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Speaker 7: And that's not an exaggeration.

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Speaker 14: The only exaggeration was when the Democrats passed the darn

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Speaker 14: thing and they told us that it was going to

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Speaker 14: have a relatively small impact on the budget, and they

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Speaker 14: were off by over a trillion dollars.

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Speaker 7: So those are the folks that exaggerated.

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Speaker 14: You can save a lot of money just by repealing

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Speaker 14: the things that the Democrats passed on their own over

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Speaker 14: the last four years. And again, for the life of me,

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Speaker 14: why aren't they doing that? I don't know, Steve. It

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Speaker 14: is beyond frustrating.

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Speaker 1: So Johnson says, there's a half a dozen votes up

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Speaker 1: there or more right now that view this thing as

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Speaker 1: the Titanic. Give me your assessment of where you think

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Speaker 1: the House stands, because it's kind of very convoluted. You

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Speaker 1: got people working on pieces of this. You you had

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Speaker 1: the tax size of ways and means they won't put

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Speaker 1: forward or laying by sea an overall number to see

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Speaker 1: what their projected deficits are. But I can tell you,

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Speaker 1: and we've never been wrong in this, it's going to

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Speaker 1: be over two trillion dollars this year or close to it.

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Speaker 1: And the first fiscal year twenty six, which is the

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Speaker 1: reconciliation bill is I don't know how they get I

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Speaker 1: don't know how they avoid another to trellion dollar deficit

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Speaker 1: at least, and that blows through the debt sealing increase

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Speaker 1: before election day in the midterm elections. You think my

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Speaker 1: math is that far off?

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Speaker 14: Now, Steve, you make a lot of really great points

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Speaker 14: in including what you started with saying that you know,

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Speaker 14: we're already over five hundred billion dollars essentially in the hole,

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Speaker 14: meaning Treasury has been blowing through its cash account at

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Speaker 14: the New York Fed in order to keep the government

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Speaker 14: going with the debt ceiling being in.

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Speaker 7: Effect this entire year.

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Speaker 14: And so as soon as that debt ceiling is lifted,

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Speaker 14: we're immediately going to borrow additional money.

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Speaker 7: The debts immediately going to go up so that we.

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Speaker 14: Can replenish that missing cash from the Treasury's account, so

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Speaker 14: that that essentially wipes out again five hundred billion dollars

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Speaker 14: out of the four trillion. That's an eighth of it

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Speaker 14: right there, and then you're going to have that two

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Speaker 14: trillion dollars deficit overall, you're going to have another two trillion,

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Speaker 14: like you mentioned. And so this isn't even enough to

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Speaker 14: get to get us through the president's current term. And

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Speaker 14: that doesn't speak to the fact that we need to

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Speaker 14: raise the debt ceiling even further. It speaks to the

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Speaker 14: fact that we need to cut spending much more. I mean,

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Speaker 14: the spending cuts in this latest bill is are there

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Speaker 14: basically microscopic. I'm sorry, but there's just no other way

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Speaker 14: to put it. We need to cut much much more spending.

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Speaker 14: In terms of the question that you're I think you

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Speaker 14: were getting to know, what is what is the coalition

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Speaker 14: here that's going to be willing to pass this, Steve,

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Speaker 14: I'm not sure there is one, especially once you consider

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Speaker 14: how many Republicans we have from.

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Speaker 7: Blue states like New York.

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Speaker 14: I know you were just saying New York's going to

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Speaker 14: go red, and I'm not saying it won't eventually, but

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Speaker 14: right now you have a lot of Republicans, even if

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Speaker 14: it's a red district, it's a blue state, it's a

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Speaker 14: high tech state, and they want that salt deduction big time.

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Speaker 7: They want it so bad.

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Speaker 14: And the problem is with the current version is they're

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Speaker 14: not interested in having a salt deduction for low and

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Speaker 14: middle income Americans. They want a salt deduction for very

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Speaker 14: high income earners, which is not.

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Speaker 7: What the current bill has. The current bill has.

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Speaker 14: Essentially a phase out, so it doesn't help the millionaires

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Speaker 14: and billionaires at all. That's not what these Republicans want.

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Speaker 14: They want a big salt deduction that makes money for

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Speaker 14: the millionaires and billionaires because that's their donor base. That's

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Speaker 14: the donor class, and that's who those Republicans are interested

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Speaker 14: apparently in helping, not the average American.

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Speaker 1: You've been and you know Scott Bessett well, you know

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Speaker 1: him before a Secretary treasure, you know him well now

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Speaker 1: the team around him. Scott has warned this is the

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Speaker 1: last chance for supply side tax cut. One of my

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Speaker 1: concerns and I've got tons of concerns about ways and means,

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Speaker 1: including the fact that they're not doing a snapback right

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Speaker 1: now on the wealthy, which I'd say is going to

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Speaker 1: have to happen at some point because the math just

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Speaker 1: doesn't work. But on the supply side part of it,

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Speaker 1: I'm really concerned that none of the supply side cuts

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Speaker 1: are really permanent. Am I missing that? Or is it

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Speaker 1: the stuff that we actually have in there that can

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Speaker 1: help business and help us productivity, create jobs, make capital available.

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Speaker 1: They're also temporary, so when Trump leaves, they leave, Sir.

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Speaker 7: Steve, that's exactly right.

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Speaker 14: The most pro growth part of this bill, things like

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Speaker 14: the expensing for business where you get that tax deduction,

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Speaker 14: that tax right.

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Speaker 7: Off those things.

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Speaker 14: Again, the most pro growth supply side parts of this

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Speaker 14: bill are the ones that are temporary.

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Speaker 7: They're not permanent.

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Speaker 14: I mean, it's just absolute nonsense, and that happened again

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Speaker 14: because they couldn't agree on.

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Speaker 7: Enough spending cuts to quote unquote pay for this.

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Speaker 14: Now, going back to your point on the rich paying more, look,

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Speaker 14: I join you in that I wish we could see

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Speaker 14: more money coming in from the highest income earners in

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Speaker 14: terms of those tax receipts. I just think that the

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Speaker 14: way to do it is going to be not increasing

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Speaker 14: marginal tax rates, but getting rid of all these deductions,

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Speaker 14: and for crying out loud, start with things like salt,

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Speaker 14: things which are not at all supply side tax reductions. Instead,

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Speaker 14: these are things that are essentially function as loopholes for

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Speaker 14: high income earners.

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Speaker 7: In the case of.

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Speaker 14: Salt, it's a loophole for people in high tax states.

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Speaker 14: It's not an exaggeration that very high income earners in

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Speaker 14: places like Manhattan saw their income tax liability go up

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Speaker 14: by several million dollars, by two or three million dollars

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Speaker 14: because of the cap on the state and local tax deduction.

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Speaker 7: I want to see more of that.

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Speaker 14: I want us to get rid of essentially all the exemptions,

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Speaker 14: all the deductions in the code.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, talk to me real quickly. You keep saying, don't

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Speaker 1: focus on the marginal tax rates for the upper bracket,

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Speaker 1: focus of the deductions. What are the deductions? Would you

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Speaker 1: get rid.

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Speaker 7: Of, Steve? Literally everything.

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Speaker 14: I would get rid of all the deductions, all the exemptions.

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Speaker 7: I'm not exaggerating. There even things.

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Speaker 14: That a lot of people really love, like the deduction

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Speaker 14: of mortgage interest. I would get rid of everything and

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Speaker 14: just reduce all of the tax rates. The problem with

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Speaker 14: any kinds of deduction, Steve in the code is the

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Speaker 14: fact that once you get beyond about a twenty five

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Speaker 14: percent top marginal tax rate, then the wealthy just start

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Speaker 14: using all of these to get their effective effective paid

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Speaker 14: tax rate back down to again about twenty five percent.

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Speaker 14: And we've seen this pretty consistently for the last one

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Speaker 14: hundred years, the entire history of the income tax. So

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Speaker 14: what you end up doing is you benefit the accountants,

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Speaker 14: you benefit the lawyers, and you benefit to a certain extent,

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Speaker 14: the wealthy at the expense of everyone else because everyone

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Speaker 14: else now has to shoulder the tax burden of that

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Speaker 14: lost tax revenue. I want to get rid of all

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Speaker 14: of that, just go to a low rate with a

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Speaker 14: broad base.

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Speaker 1: You mentioned we got other issues too. Talk to me

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Speaker 1: about student debt. I just heard we got a bombshell

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Speaker 1: about the student debt.

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Speaker 14: And Steve, this was actually something that we talked about

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Speaker 14: last year on your show, the fact that the Biden

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Speaker 14: administration and not only did they get shot down by

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Speaker 14: the Supreme Court over and over again for their unconstitutional

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Speaker 14: attempts to bail out student loan borrowers, but then the

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Speaker 14: court eventually told them, look, you have to get people

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Speaker 14: repaying again. You can't just keep going with these pause

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Speaker 14: is where you're not forgiving loans, but you're also not

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Speaker 14: requiring them to be repaid. Essentially, it's an effective forgiveness

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Speaker 14: if you just do that indefinitely. So the Biden administration said, okay, fine,

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Speaker 14: we'll have people start repaying their loans, but if they

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Speaker 14: don't repay them wink wink, then we're not going to

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Speaker 14: report those delinquent accounts to credit bureaus. And that's what happened.

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Speaker 14: So for the last year of the Biden administration, we

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Speaker 14: had no idea how bad the student loan situation was,

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Speaker 14: in other words, how many millions of people had fallen behind. Well,

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Speaker 14: now we have a Department of Education who is actually

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Speaker 14: willing to report these numbers, honestly, and what we found

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Speaker 14: is that it's not a fraction of one percent of

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Speaker 14: student loans that are seriously delinquent, in other words, more

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Speaker 14: than three months behind on payments. But in fact, the

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Speaker 14: actual number is almost eight percent. It's over one thousand

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Speaker 14: percent higher than we were told it was. It's just

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Speaker 14: yet another example of how the Biden administration misled the

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Speaker 14: everybody to make us think that the situation was so

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Speaker 14: much better than it was, when in fact, it was

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Speaker 14: pretty darn terrible.

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Speaker 1: Hold it, you're saying that eight percent of the total

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Speaker 1: face amount of the student loans are kind of in arrears.

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Speaker 14: It's exactly right, Steven. And again, the really insane thing

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Speaker 14: here is that this has been the situation for well

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Speaker 14: over a year now, but the data was purposely hidden

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Speaker 14: exact situation was. And furthermore, you have literally millions, that's

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Speaker 14: not an exaggeration, millions of people now whose credit ratings

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Speaker 14: have taken a triple digit hit just this year, and

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Speaker 14: they're going to have now a very tough time getting

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Speaker 14: other kinds of credit extended to them, whether it's a

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Speaker 14: you name it. So you now have a ton of

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Speaker 7: Really in depth, Steve.

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Speaker 14: The reason for that is because we just don't have

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Speaker 7: So look, let's let's take a high level view of it.

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Speaker 14: Then let's do the thirty thousand foot As the senator

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Speaker 14: at least would be the better option, because if we

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Speaker 14: will definitely be worse. Again, I wish we could get

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Speaker 14: more of that spending and we will get more Republicans

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Speaker 14: with a spine in Congress. But as of right now,

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Speaker 14: if this is the best we can get, it is

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Speaker 7: But look, that means that.

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Speaker 14: The president was not served well by the Republicans in Congress.

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Speaker 14: And if we want to continue supporting President Trump, I

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Speaker 14: And I don't know if that happens in the primary

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Speaker 14: which he was overwhelmingly elected to pursue.

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Speaker 1: Do you agree the tenure bond? I think it is

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Speaker 1: four point five. I think it ended there today. I

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Speaker 1: Clearly they are. This is not because of President Trump's

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Speaker 1: deductions on the wealthy. So you're not going to have

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Speaker 1: additional revenue generation. Are you concerned that the further we

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Speaker 1: be taken away from us as the bond market starts

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Speaker 14: Here, Well, absolutely, Steve the look, the bond market is

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Speaker 14: dime that the government spends. I mean, that's Weimar Republic territory.

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Speaker 14: That's how you get to hyperinflation scenarios. But that is

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Speaker 14: what is eventually going to happen, to your point, if

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Speaker 14: we don't start heeding the warnings that the bond market

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Speaker 14: all that, but guess what, virtually everything now, after the

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Speaker 14: the bond market is nearly back. So the difference that

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Speaker 14: we're seeing right now, and it does track again, to

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Speaker 14: your point, very closely with the progress of discussions on

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Speaker 14: the Hill and how the bill has been evolving. The

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Speaker 14: to get louder and louder over time. And as talented

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Speaker 14: It's because the quality of the debt is just going

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Speaker 1: Wow, EJ. Where do people go on social media to

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Speaker 14: Best place to find me is on Twitter. The handle

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