1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, Radio News. 2 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Good morning, I'm Nathan Hager and I'm Karen Moscow. Here 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:14,920 Speaker 2: are the stories we're following today. 4 00:00:15,520 --> 00:00:18,760 Speaker 3: Karen, we begin with progress reported this morning in nuclear 5 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 3: talks between the US and Iran. Iran says it had 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: reached a quote general agreement on the terms of a 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 3: potential nuclear deal that would lift sanctions on Tehran and 8 00:00:27,920 --> 00:00:30,319 Speaker 3: ease the risk of a broader Middle East war. 9 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,400 Speaker 4: Here's Iran's Foreign Minister of Basaragchi. 10 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 5: You're hopeful that negotiation will lead to a sustainable and 11 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:40,720 Speaker 5: negotiated solution. At the same time, as demonstrated during the 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:44,879 Speaker 5: aggression of thirteen June twenty twenty five, Iran remains fully 13 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 5: prepared to defend itself against any threats. 14 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: Iranian FIGN Minister Abbas Uraji made those comments in Geneva. 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 3: Vice President j D. Vance spoke about the talks with 16 00:00:54,920 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 3: Fox News. You know, in some ways it went well, 17 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: they agreed to meet afterwards. But in other way is 18 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,120 Speaker 3: it was very clear that the President has set some 19 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 3: red lines that the Iranians are not yet willing to 20 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: actually acknowledge and work through. So we're going to keep 21 00:01:09,040 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 3: on working it but of course the President reserves the 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 3: ability to say when he thinks that diplomacy has reached 23 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:17,119 Speaker 3: its natural end. We hope it will get to that point, 24 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 3: but if we do, that'll be the president's call. And 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 3: that was Vice President jd Vance on Fox News. The 26 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 3: US Induran will each draft and exchange texts for a 27 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 3: deal before setting a date for a third round of talks. 28 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 2: Well, Nathan, Also happening in Geneva, Ukraine and Russia. We'll 29 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 2: begin a second day of US broker talk. Central among 30 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: the unresolved issues is Russian President Vladimir Putin's demand that 31 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:42,680 Speaker 2: Ukraine handover territory in its eastern Donetsk region that Moscow 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 2: has failed to conquer in fighting. 33 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 3: Here in Japan plans to invest thirty six billion dollars 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,840 Speaker 3: in US oil, gas, and critical mineral projects. It's the 35 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 3: first trunch of a five hundred and fifty billion dollar 36 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 3: commitment under Japan's trade agreement with President Trump. The most 37 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 3: significant investment is a natural gas facility in Ohio is 38 00:02:00,200 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: expected to generate the power equivalent of nine nuclear reactors. 39 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 4: Bloomberg's Lord Davison has more from Hong Kong. 40 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 6: There are some questions just about the size and scope 41 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 6: of this project just because it would be the biggest 42 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,040 Speaker 6: energy project of its kind. 43 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 7: There are also two other projects. 44 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,160 Speaker 6: One is a crude export facility in the Gulf of 45 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 6: Mexico off the Texas coast, as well as a project 46 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 6: that would produce synthetic diamonds. Those are used in the 47 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 6: manufacturing of semiconductors, energy, and automobiles as well. 48 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: Bloomberg's Lord Davison says the announcement comes weeks before Japanese 49 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 3: Prime Minister Sona Etakaichi is set to meet with President 50 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 3: Trump in Washington. 51 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 2: Nathan there's more a fallout this morning from the Jeffrey 52 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 2: Epstein files, and Bloomberg's Alexis Christofferis has the latest from 53 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:43,120 Speaker 2: New York. 54 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 8: Two teachers' unions are asking the Securities in Exchange Commission 55 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 8: to look at a twenty twenty one statement from Apollo 56 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 8: Global Management about its contact with the late sex offender 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 8: and whether it could be considered materially false or misleading. 58 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 8: The Justice Department's latest files show Epstein corresponded with Apolo 59 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 8: then CEO Leon Black, its current CEO, Mark Rowan, and 60 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 8: others in the firm. The American Federation of Teachers says. 61 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 8: Apollo's statement claims Black never promoted Epstein's services to other 62 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 8: senior executives, and Apollo spokesman says no one at the 63 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:17,880 Speaker 8: firm other than Black had a personal or business relationship 64 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 8: with Epstein. Meanwhile, the House Oversight Committee is set to 65 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 8: hear a closed door deposition today from billionaire Les Wexner. 66 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 8: The eighty eight year old founder of L Brands, has 67 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 8: spent years answering for his decades long relationship with Epstein. 68 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 8: Wexner has long denied any knowledge of Epstein's crimes, but 69 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 8: his prominent victim, Virginia Gouffrey, has claimed Wexner as one 70 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 8: of the men Epstein trafficked her. Two In New York, 71 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 8: Alexis christoffers Bloomberg Radio. 72 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 3: Okay, Alexis, thank you now to the latest in the 73 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: search for Nancy Guthrie. It's been eighteen days since the 74 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 3: mother of Today's Show host Savannah Guthrie was last seen. 75 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: Investigators are looking for fresh leads after a glove founder 76 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,400 Speaker 3: of the eighty four year old's home failed to match 77 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: any DNA profiles in the FBI's database. They're working with 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 3: the maker of Guthrie's pacemaker to see if they can 79 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 3: track her through the device. Richard Frankel is a retired 80 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 3: FBI agent. 81 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:12,200 Speaker 9: It connects to the bluetooth within her pacemaker and if 82 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 9: they get a hit on it, although you know, they 83 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 9: can get down to, you know, within meters of where 84 00:04:17,760 --> 00:04:21,160 Speaker 9: that pacemaker might be, but that pacemaker has to be 85 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 9: emitting a charge at the same time. 86 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:27,720 Speaker 3: It's retired FBI agent Richard Frankel. Investigators are also processing 87 00:04:27,720 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 3: evidence from two search warrants from last week, and they're 88 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: canvassing gun shops with surveillance footage to see if the 89 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:36,719 Speaker 3: suspect looks familiar. The reward is now to one hundred 90 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 3: thousand dollars for information that leads to Nancy Guthrie's return. 91 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 4: Let's turn to the markets now. 92 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 2: Nathan futures are higher ahead of today's session. Stocks rebounded 93 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: yesterday from an early sell off to eke out gains, 94 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 2: and we're getting worried this morning about some big moves 95 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: from Wall Street investors, including Warren Buffett. Bloomberg's John Tucker 96 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: joins us with the very latest. John, Good morning, Good morning. 97 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,400 Speaker 10: Karen Buffett's Berkshire hathaway A slashed its stake in Amazon 98 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 10: by more than seventy five percent of the fourth quarter. 99 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,840 Speaker 10: It now owns roughly two point three million shares of 100 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 10: the company. And so what did Buffett dump Amazon for 101 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 10: The New York Times? This marks his last new bet 102 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 10: as CEO of Berkshire. A regulatory filing shows Berkshire acquired 103 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 10: five point one million shares of The Times. It's a 104 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,160 Speaker 10: stake that was worth almost three hundred and fifty two 105 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 10: million dollars a. Berkshire first bought a steak in Amazon 106 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 10: back in twenty nineteen. He sent at the time that 107 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 10: despite his aversion to tech stocks, he'd been quote an 108 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 10: idiot for not buying the online retailer giants' shares sooner. 109 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 10: Shares of The New York Times search more than ten 110 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 10: percent at postmarket trading in New York. I'm John Tucker, 111 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 10: Bloomberg Radio, All. 112 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 4: Right, John, thank you. 113 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 3: Shares of Nvidia are up two percent in early trading. 114 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,480 Speaker 3: Meta Platforms has agreed to deploy millions of Nvidia processors 115 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 3: over the next few years. Meta accounts for about nine 116 00:05:54,240 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 3: percent of Nvidia's revenue. It's committing to use more AI 117 00:05:57,360 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: processors and networking equipment from the supplier. Meta shares are 118 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: up almost one percent. 119 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: Nathan, The FED is trying to assess the impact of 120 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence on the economy and productivity growth. San Francisco 121 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: Fed Bank President Mary Daily says policymakers must be open 122 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 2: to signs that AI will have a major impact. 123 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 11: So what we're looking for is a technology to give 124 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 11: us consistently good changes in productivity, so that all industries 125 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 11: at scale get better. Industries figure out new ways to 126 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 11: generate revenue, new ways to do product design, new ideas 127 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 11: to come and shape the economy. That's the thing that 128 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:41,160 Speaker 11: has a sustained productivity growth part. So it's undeniable. Productivity 129 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:44,600 Speaker 11: growth has gone up. What's not as clear is how 130 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 11: long will that last? 131 00:06:45,839 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 2: In San Francisco Fed Bank President Mary Daily made the 132 00:06:48,680 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 2: comments to Bloomberg's Ed Ludlow at San Jose State University. 133 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:53,480 Speaker 4: And europe Caring. 134 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,359 Speaker 3: There are reports this morning that European Central Bank President 135 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: Christine Legard is planning to step down from her role 136 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 3: before it's scheduled to end. Let's go to London get 137 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: the details from Bloomberg's Ewan Potts. 138 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 4: Ewan, what are we. 139 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 12: Hearing Nathan and Karen Christine Leaguard's eight year term as 140 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 12: boss of the European Central Bank is due to run 141 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 12: until October twenty twenty seven, but the FT reports today 142 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 12: that the Guard plans to step down before the French 143 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,239 Speaker 12: presidential election in April of next year, allowing current President 144 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 12: Emmanuel Macron the chance to take part in selecting the 145 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 12: ECB's next leader. The Bank itself has issued a statement 146 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,280 Speaker 12: saying the God is totally focused on her mission and 147 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 12: has not taken any decision regarding the end of her 148 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 12: term in London. I'm you in pots Bloomberg. 149 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 2: Radio Time Now for it look at some of the 150 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 2: other stories making news in New York and around the world, 151 00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 2: and for that we're joined by Bloomberg's Michael Barr. 152 00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 4: Michael, good Morning, Good morning. 153 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 13: Karen Cruz have pushed through mountainous wilderness in California near 154 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,200 Speaker 13: Lake Tahoe during a snowstorm to rescue six backcountry skiers 155 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 13: who has survived an avalanche but were trapped by its 156 00:08:01,280 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 13: snow and ice. The Nevanna County Sheriff's Captain Russell Green 157 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 13: says at least nine others from their tour group remained missing. 158 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 7: I wouldn't say it's normal, not in these conditions of 159 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 7: the area's very tough to access, and the more people 160 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 7: that we have up there, the higher chance of another 161 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,320 Speaker 7: incident happening. So we're us asking people to avoid the area. 162 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 13: Captain Russell Green, we're learning more about the person who 163 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 13: opened fire Monday during a youth hockey game and an 164 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 13: ice rink in Rhode Island. The victims killed were the 165 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 13: shooter's ex wife, Ronda Dorgan, and adult son Aidendorgan. Three 166 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 13: others were injured. Paul Tucket Chief of Police Tina Gonklavs 167 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 13: says among them was the shooter's ex wife's parents and 168 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 13: a family friend. 169 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 14: They were all at the event for a son, a 170 00:08:50,400 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 14: juvenile sun who was playing hockey. It was their senior night, 171 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 14: and there was no expectations or any indication that there 172 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 14: was going to be any type of violence. 173 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 13: Belice've identified the shooter as fifty six year old to 174 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 13: Robert Dorgan, who also went by the name ROBERTA. Esposito. 175 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,679 Speaker 13: Police say Dorgan died from an apparent self inflicted gunshot wound. 176 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 13: New York City Mayor Zora Memdanni is proposing raising the 177 00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:17,600 Speaker 13: city's property taxes for the first time in more than 178 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 13: two decades and is looking to raise the city's reserve 179 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,320 Speaker 13: funds to fill a roughly five billion dollar budget gap. 180 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 13: Ma'm donnie's unveiling part of the one hundred and twenty 181 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 13: seven billion dollar preluminary budget proposal. 182 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 15: If we do not fix the structural imbalance and do 183 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,280 Speaker 15: not heed the calls of New Yorkers to raise taxes 184 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,719 Speaker 15: on the wealthy, this crisis will not disappear. It will 185 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:44,440 Speaker 15: simply return year after year, forcing harder and harsher choices 186 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 15: each time. 187 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 13: According to Memdannie's proposal, the nine point five percent property 188 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 13: tax hike would take effect beginning July. First Global News 189 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 13: twenty four hours a day and whenever you want it 190 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 13: with the Bloomberg News. Now Michael barn this is Bloomberg. 191 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 4: Karen, Thanks Michael. 192 00:09:59,320 --> 00:10:02,199 Speaker 2: Time Now there are Bloomberg Sports Update, and for that 193 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 2: we bring in John stash Hour, Thanks Kare. 194 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 16: At the Olympics today, of the American skier Mikhaela Shifferd, 195 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 16: who is at a very disappointing Winter Games, goes for 196 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 16: a medal in her best event, the slalom. The US 197 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:16,360 Speaker 16: men's hockey team plays Sweden in the quarterfinals yesterday, a 198 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 16: silver medal won by American Mac Foorhan in the freestyle 199 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 16: Big Air and a silver and speed skating in the 200 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 16: team pursuit. College basketball Michigan now ranked number one with 201 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 16: a victory at seventh ranked Purdue. Tony Clark resigned as 202 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 16: the head of the Major League Baseball Players Association. 203 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: Had the job for twelve years. 204 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 16: That's your Bloomberg Sports Update. 205 00:10:35,480 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 2: Stay with us more from Bloomberg day Break coming up after. 206 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: This Coast to coast on Bloomberg Radio, nationwide on Sirius XM, 207 00:10:47,640 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: and around the world on Bloomberg dot Com and the 208 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business opp This is Bloomberg Daybreak. 209 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 4: Good morning of Nathan Hagar. 210 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:58,080 Speaker 3: Both the US and Iran are reporting progress in their 211 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 3: latest round of nuclear talks engine but with two US 212 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 3: aircraft carrier groups still in the region. Vice President jd 213 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:08,480 Speaker 3: Vance is voicing cautious optimism. We would very much like, 214 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,080 Speaker 3: as the President has said, to resolve this through a conversation, 215 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 3: in a diplomatic negotiation, but the President has all options 216 00:11:15,679 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 3: on the table. That was Vice President jd Vance in 217 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 3: an interview with Fox News. And we're joined now by 218 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 3: Goldnar motor Vali, who heads Iran coverage for Bloomberg News. 219 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 4: Golnar, Good morning. 220 00:11:25,320 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 3: So where do things stand between the US and Iran 221 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 3: after this latest round of talks. 222 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 17: Well, both of them have sounded cautiously optimistic, which is 223 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 17: kind of similar to how they were after the first 224 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 17: round of talks, and this sort of positive, general positive 225 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 17: mood music suggests that they are planning to meet again, 226 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,880 Speaker 17: and in fact, the Uranian Forum minister did say that 227 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,199 Speaker 17: there is that there will be a third round of 228 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,560 Speaker 17: talks on the table. We just don't know when that's 229 00:11:57,640 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 17: going to be and what the date for that is. 230 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 17: I think the biggest question mark, or there are several 231 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 17: question marks over exactly what it is that they are discussing. 232 00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 17: There are some unconfirmed reports, and we've been hearing from 233 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 17: various sources here and there that possibly what they're going 234 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 17: back to is something that's actually quite similar, ironically to 235 00:12:19,920 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 17: the original Nuclear Deal or Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action 236 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 17: that was a grill agreed during the Obama administration, which 237 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 17: Donald Trump famously withdrew from in his first term. But 238 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 17: I think the senses given what we heard from the 239 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 17: Ranian from minister last year when he first started his 240 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 17: talks with Steve Wikoff, that was before the Israeli military 241 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,080 Speaker 17: attack on Iran in June, that there is a push 242 00:12:45,080 --> 00:12:49,560 Speaker 17: from Iran to provide more commercial and financial incentives to 243 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 17: the US administration because they think that would be more 244 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 17: attractive to Trump. But we don't know right now what 245 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 17: the exact contours are. What we do know is that 246 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 17: the Iranians have said that they have a set of 247 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 17: guiding principles on which they are going to work and 248 00:13:05,960 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 17: on that basis they are going to exchange texts that 249 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 17: could provide again a framework for a possible deal. 250 00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 18: The language is deliberately, I think vague. 251 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 17: It's deliberately indirect about how far they are from actually 252 00:13:23,800 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 17: finalizing something. 253 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 18: But I think. 254 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 17: That's the way that they have to frame it going forward, 255 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,040 Speaker 17: because there are obviously a lot of things that they 256 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 17: still need to discuss and finalize. 257 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 3: The construction framework of a possible deal is syntax we've 258 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 3: heard before from President Trump and past negotiations as well. 259 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 3: We also heard from Vice President Vance saying that the 260 00:13:45,800 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 3: President has laid out red lines that Iran shouldn't cross. 261 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: Do we have clarity from the administration as far as 262 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 3: you can see, Golnar about what those red lines are? 263 00:13:58,040 --> 00:13:59,319 Speaker 18: So I think That's. 264 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 17: An interesting question as well, because we know that Donald 265 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:04,640 Speaker 17: Trump has kind of changed or kind of oscillated between 266 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 17: the nuclear Iran's nuclear program and Iran's brutal suppression of 267 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 17: the protests. There's a massive, massive uprising we had a 268 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:16,360 Speaker 17: couple of months ago between those two things as the 269 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 17: motivating driving factor behind his kind of military threats on 270 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 17: Iran and using that to. 271 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 18: Leverage a deal out of the Uranians. 272 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 17: So that's interesting in terms of what actually the Uranians 273 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 17: are being told in the indirect talks with Steve Wikoff. 274 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 17: But it looks increasingly like the Americans have settled on 275 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 17: focusing on Iran's nuclear program. 276 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 18: In terms of military red. 277 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 17: Lines, I would say anything from the Iranians that kind of. 278 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 18: Is a is a. 279 00:14:57,240 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 17: Stronger threat than what they've already done. 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