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Speaker 3: You are listening to episode three hundred and four of Hurdle,

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Speaker 3: a wellness focused podcast where I talk to inspirational people

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Speaker 3: about everything from their highest ties and toughest moments to

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Speaker 3: essential tips on how to live a healthier, happier, more

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Speaker 3: motivated life. We all go through our fair share of hurdles.

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Speaker 3: My goal through these discussions is to empower you to

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Speaker 2: It's with Maria Durant.

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Speaker 3: She's a pro skateboarder, one of the best in the game.

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Speaker 2: We had the opportunity to sit down when we are.

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Speaker 3: Both in Paris earlier this year, a celebration put on

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Speaker 3: In today's episode, Mariah talks about how she got into boarding,

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Speaker 3: Mariah also opens up about her hopes for this year's

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Speaker 3: social It's at Hurdle podcast. I myself am over at

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Speaker 3: Emily a body and with that, let's get to it.

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Speaker 3: Let's get to hurdling. Today, I'm sitting down with Mariah Duran.

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Speaker 3: She is an Olympic skateboarder. How are we doing today?

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Speaker 4: Doing great? We're in Paris.

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Speaker 3: Can't complain, can't complain? This is wild. This is not

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Speaker 1: It was definitely like interesting, like kind of when I

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Speaker 3: For someone who doesn't know what miracle territory is, elaborate.

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Speaker 1: I mean it could, it could be a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: Of just appreciate the moment, you know.

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Speaker 1: Because it is crazy that I'm here in Paris right now,

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about the dots.

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Speaker 1: I guess the biggest thing for me, I guess when

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Speaker 3: To be honest, that idea of presence is really valuable,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, how do you cultivate presents?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And by being more present, what I'm hearing you

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's pretty crazy because I'll be doing super

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Speaker 4: And just be smoked. Like, Yes, when you lets your

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Speaker 3: Like this whole other language and listening to this that's

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Speaker 4: Means fall down really hard, fall down.

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Speaker 2: Really hard, and we what was the coffee reference there?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, your wills just hit a crack and you just slam.

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Speaker 2: And just slam. Yeah, you don't want to do that.

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Speaker 3: You also don't want to You also don't want to

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Speaker 1: I feel like skateboarding is kind of when you let

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Speaker 1: your guard down, Like accidents and freak accidents do happen,

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Speaker 1: but it's kind of just you know, like not as

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Speaker 1: often as you would probably think.

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Speaker 3: Off of the board, would you say that letting your

448
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Speaker 3: guard down has paid off?

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Speaker 1: I would say so, I feel like off the board,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know, like I would say, like

451
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Speaker 1: having my guard down, I guess kind of helps.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like for me, as someone who also is

454
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Speaker 3: a higher achiever in a different way, keeping my guard

455
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Speaker 3: up is me like protecting myself. But I reckon denies

456
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Speaker 3: that there can be benefits to me taking my guard down,

457
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Speaker 3: letting my guard down around people, and being okay with

458
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Speaker 3: getting a little bit vulnerable, Because when I get vulnerable,

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Speaker 3: oftentimes that's when I learn the most about myself and

460
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Speaker 3: then I can use those lessons just like we're talking

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Speaker 3: about about failure and fear and whatnot to get me

462
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Speaker 3: to that next place. But it's hard, right, I feel

463
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Speaker 3: like it's super hard to let your guard down.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it is hard to let your guard down,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like naturally it's gonna happen. It's just

466
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Speaker 1: like sometimes you have no choice in your guys let

467
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Speaker 1: down and you're vulnerable, or you have like a breakdown

468
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Speaker 1: and you kind of learn a lot about yourself in

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Speaker 1: those moments. I've learned to appreciate those moments more and

470
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Speaker 1: kind of welcome them a little bit more because I

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Speaker 1: feel like if I always keep my guard up all

472
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Speaker 1: the time, I feel like it will just build into

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Speaker 1: something that it's not and I might be getting further

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Speaker 1: away from where I'm trying to go. Whereas like if

475
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Speaker 1: I just let out how I feel about something, kind

476
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Speaker 1: of get over it and work through it and be human, like,

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Speaker 1: I'll be able to just move on and be like

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Speaker 1: more free.

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Speaker 3: I know in your time skating, there was a time

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Speaker 3: where you were asking yourself, is this still for me?

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Speaker 3: Should I be keeping my guard up? Tell us a

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Speaker 3: little bit about that.

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Speaker 1: I guess like you're I mean, sometimes like when you

484
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Speaker 1: have a really bad injury, you're kind of you're you

485
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Speaker 1: sit with yourself and you're like, okay, like do I

486
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Speaker 1: want to keep doing this? Is this worth it? And

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Speaker 1: it's kind of it's good to have those conversations with yourself.

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Speaker 1: I feel like for me, it's mainly like being pretty

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Speaker 1: hard on myself, like I really want to like keep

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Speaker 1: going and all this stuff. But as soon as i

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Speaker 1: take the pressure off of it, as soon as I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 1: like I don't need to skate this contest if I'm

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Speaker 1: not feeling it, if I'm not mentally there, as soon

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Speaker 1: as I take my guard down, I'm like, I feel

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Speaker 1: so much more free to actually just go skate, like

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Speaker 1: and skate the contest and be myself, which is like

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Speaker 1: something that I've learned to kind of cope with in general,

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Speaker 1: like just knowing that, hey, if I'm like worked up

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Speaker 1: or overwhelmed, I kind of just sit with myself, have

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Speaker 1: a conversation and give myself a choice, because sometimes like

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Speaker 1: I'll be hard on myself.

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Speaker 4: There's no choice.

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Speaker 1: I gotta like do this, you know, yeah, and it's good.

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Speaker 1: But also, like you need to have those other times

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Speaker 1: to balance it out.

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Speaker 4: I feel like, yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: So within your timeline of skating, when was the most

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Speaker 3: recent time that you were having that difficult conversation with

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Speaker 3: yourself that you were like, I don't know if this

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Speaker 3: is for me right now.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it was.

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Speaker 1: Actually it was pretty crazy because it was in It

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Speaker 1: was last year at X Games Ventura. So I skated

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Speaker 1: the contest, so there was the contest and then there

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Speaker 1: was the best Trick event.

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Speaker 4: Skated the contest.

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Speaker 1: I made it to finals, but I was like just

518
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Speaker 1: going I just mentally just kind of going through it.

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Speaker 1: You know. I really wanted to put in but like

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Speaker 1: couldn't put my run together. And sat with myself that

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Speaker 1: night and was like, I don't know if I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: skate the Best trick tomorrow. And I had like my

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Speaker 1: family over and I kind of just had a conversation,

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Speaker 1: like a like a real conversation, like I don't know

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Speaker 1: if I'm gonna skate, like because I'm pretty mentally drained.

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Speaker 4: And then they were like it's all good, like just

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Speaker 4: you don't have to.

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Speaker 1: And then once I slept on it and took the

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Speaker 1: pressure off, I was like I woke up so rejuvenated

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Speaker 1: of like, oh, like I have a choice, and like

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Speaker 1: I want to do this now. And then it was

532
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Speaker 1: so crazy because then I ended up taking the gold

533
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Speaker 1: medal and the best trick for that, and it was

534
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Speaker 1: just so crazy because it was like it felt like

535
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Speaker 1: such a low, but when I let myself go, I

536
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Speaker 1: was able to actually see what I could do.

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Speaker 3: You know, it was crazy really walk in and embrace

538
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Speaker 3: all of your own potential. Yeah, and there's so many

539
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 3: parallels to be drawn there, but truly what happened for

540
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Speaker 3: you was that you admitted to yourself how you felt

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Speaker 3: and were honest about where you were at. And sometimes

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Speaker 3: when you kind of lie to yourself or you can't

543
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Speaker 3: get to that place where you're admitting what's really going on,

544
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Speaker 3: then nothing else can happen. Yeah, you have to be

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Speaker 3: honest with yourself before you can make any sort of

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Speaker 3: change or any sort of legitimate decision moving forward, or

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Speaker 3: the decision that you make if you're not being honest

548
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Speaker 3: with yourself probably isn't one that's going to be authentic to.

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Speaker 2: Who you are, what you want to be, where you

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Speaker 2: want to go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's going to be very like force full. It's

552
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Speaker 1: like it's not going to flow as much as if

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Speaker 1: you would have just had the conversation with with yourself

554
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Speaker 1: and like let it go, yeah, and then naturally choose

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Speaker 1: it and even.

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Speaker 3: If it's a hard truth, right, because that was a

557
00:25:05,280 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 3: hard truth for you, sure, like, oh, this isn't feeling good. Yeah,

558
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Speaker 3: when you wanted it to feel good. You wanted to

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Speaker 3: show up the next day, and like who doesn't want

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Speaker 3: to win a gold Yeah? Yeah, you know, but in

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Speaker 3: that moment the night before, you were like, yeah, this

562
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Speaker 3: isn't working for me right now? Yeah, And to wake up,

563
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Speaker 3: did it feel like something was lifted off of your shoulders?

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Speaker 1: It just felt like more free, Like I was able

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Speaker 1: to just be more forgiving with myself. And I was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm just gonna go out there and skate,

567
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Speaker 1: and if I land my trick, I land my trick.

568
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Speaker 1: If not, like I'm gonna be okay with it. And like,

569
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Speaker 1: once I trusted that, like I was able to just

570
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Speaker 1: like do me out there. Basically it was just like

571
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Speaker 1: it wasn't force full. It was like just in the

572
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Speaker 1: best mindset and with the best intent, even if I

573
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Speaker 1: didn't like get a gold medal, or even if I

574
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Speaker 1: didn't even meddle, like I would have been okay with it,

575
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Speaker 1: but at least I like have the conversation because I

576
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,520
Speaker 1: feel like sometimes us competitors are people who like to

577
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Speaker 1: like really push themselves really try to just be like no,

578
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Speaker 1: like I gotta be a hundred, I gotta like, you know,

579
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Speaker 1: I need, I need to want this. But sometimes you

580
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Speaker 1: have to like let it go in order to like

581
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Speaker 1: really kind of want it.

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Speaker 3: You know, Perfection isn't relatable like vulnerability is relatable. And

583
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Speaker 3: even when it's just you being vulnerable with yourself, it's like, oh,

584
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: like I got you. It's like giving yourself like a

585
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Speaker 3: little bit of a hut, yeah for sure, and then

586
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Speaker 3: showing up and being like okay, like you and me

587
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,800
Speaker 3: self self, we're gonna do this together.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna go out there and crush it.

589
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Speaker 3: So after that X Games win, then how did you

590
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Speaker 3: feel after the win?

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Speaker 1: It was crazy because I felt like I felt like

592
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Speaker 1: I was gonna feel the same way regardless if I

593
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Speaker 1: won the medal or not. I felt like I had

594
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Speaker 1: a conversation with myself and was like I'm gonna feel

595
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna validate myself regardless With the metal or not,

596
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Speaker 1: you know, and like, of course the medal is great,

597
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Speaker 1: but I also didn't want to like identify with that

598
00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,800
Speaker 1: because if I do that, then that's gonna put more

599
00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 1: pressure on like the next one, and if I don't

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Speaker 1: do good on that, I'm.

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Speaker 4: Gonna be like heartbroken, you know.

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Speaker 1: So I felt like I kind of was just like

603
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Speaker 1: kept it pretty neutral, like of course, like yeah, I

604
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: have like a photo, like did a post, but also

605
00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 1: just like just got back to skating like just freely.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what's your relationship like with yourself?

607
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: My relationship with myself, I don't know. I guess I

608
00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:19,200
Speaker 1: like figure it out every time. I feel like, as

609
00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:21,359
Speaker 1: of right now, I feel like I'm learning to be

610
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Speaker 1: more forgiving and learning to be.

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Speaker 4: More in the moment.

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Speaker 1: But that was because I wasn't being forgiving and being

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Speaker 1: in them. I was like overwhelmed and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: I feel like it was a learned thing because anybody

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Speaker 1: can be like, yeah, like I'm super I'm not.

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Speaker 4: I used to be really hard on myself, but.

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Speaker 2: Now I'm not.

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Speaker 1: But but everybody who's hard on themselves doesn't want to

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Speaker 1: For me, I feel like I'm more open to like

621
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Speaker 1: adversity because I know it's you know it's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like, I guess I'm just more comfortable

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Speaker 1: to like stay on the ride. Yeah, yeah, whatever that

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625
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Speaker 3: going back to the fact that this is such an

664
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Speaker 3: individual sport and so to have the reason I ask

665
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 3: what's your relationship like with yourself is because right now

666
00:30:22,760 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 3: you're spending a lot of time with yourself.

667
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, so there are gonna be.

668
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Speaker 3: Days, especially because it's scientifically proven that eighty percent of

669
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:33,960
Speaker 3: our thoughts every day are negative, which is a frightening statistic.

670
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: But when you're having all those negative thoughts, it's got

671
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 3: to take a really strong person to be in your position,

672
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 3: gearing up for the things that you know that you

673
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 3: want to do. You have to have a strong why here,

674
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:47,479
Speaker 3: because if you're spending so much time with self and

675
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 3: working on your relationship with self and having this strong why,

676
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: that's going to be the thing that propels you toward

677
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 3: where you want to go. So talk to me about

678
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 3: what your why is within skateboarding. What keeps you showing

679
00:30:59,880 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 3: up up after the falls, on the days where you're like, oh,

680
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: I don't want to do this shit, it's raining outside,

681
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 3: I don't know where the right place is for us

682
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 3: to pop up and skate what's your why?

683
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: I would say, the reason like the times when I

684
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: like don't want to do it, I would say my

685
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,720
Speaker 1: why is just I don't know, it's weird because I

686
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 1: feel like the more you like put yourself in a

687
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: position to unlock something, it's more worth it. Like I

688
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: feel like, for me, like I am excited to meet

689
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: my future self, like whether that's in like a month

690
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: or after the Olympics, because I know that I'm gonna

691
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 1: grow regardless of like where where it's at. So I

692
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: feel like whenever I don't want to do something, I

693
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: kind of just you know, I I'm like, okay, Like

694
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: that's normal. Everybody doesn't want to like jump down twelve

695
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,200
Speaker 1: stairs all the time. It's totally fine. But I feel

696
00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: like just the idea of reaching a potential that I

697
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:54,760
Speaker 1: like can see in my mind keeps me kind of going.

698
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 4: And it doesn't have to be like doing the craziest tricks.

699
00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,760
Speaker 1: It's more of just not listening to the negative thoughts,

700
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 1: Like it's as big as that.

701
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,440
Speaker 4: It's like just being like all right, you.

702
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 2: Know what, Like.

703
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 1: People can like doubt me or whatever, and I can

704
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: even doubt myself, but if I pushed through it, like

705
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be so much better and so much stronger

706
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: whatever that looks like, even if it's just like getting

707
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 1: over that fear.

708
00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh one hundred percent.

709
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,600
Speaker 3: And so getting over that fear has certainly taken on

710
00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: many different shapes, sizes, looks over the last you know,

711
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 3: decade plus of skating. Chat with me a little bit

712
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 3: about how it felt when you started to get more

713
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 3: and more sponsors. I know, you landed Adidas in twenty

714
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 3: eighteen and then Mountain Dew in twenty nineteen, so those

715
00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 3: are two huge companies. Yeah, and we talked already about

716
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: you know, how it felt when you realize like, oh,

717
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: I'm kind of good at this, but when other people,

718
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 3: specifically like very large brands take notice and believe in

719
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 3: you and back you, that's got to be a whole

720
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 3: other thing.

721
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that definitely. It definitely helps helps the

722
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: case too. But it's kind of also like, you know,

723
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: like what kind of got me here is gonna keep

724
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: me here? So I kind of just go with the

725
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,800
Speaker 1: mentality of like it's just skating at the end of

726
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: the day, and try not to take it so serious.

727
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: Of course, like you know, having tent, but like having

728
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 1: support from like big brands and stuff kind of allows

729
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: you to, I guess, just really experienced and discover a

730
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: new side of yourself. I guess like when I started

731
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: skating full time, I figured out that like I kind

732
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: of like structure. I kind of like to go to

733
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: the gym and kind of like work out, try to

734
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: build my legs to be stronger. I kind of like

735
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:40,080
Speaker 1: to stretch after I'm done skating. You know, like you

736
00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 1: kind of discover new things about it, and especially when

737
00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 1: you start competing, it's so rapid. It's like everything's times ten,

738
00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: Like your emotions are times ten, the environment's times ten.

739
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: So then you kind of just discover more stuff about

740
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: yourself and you're like allowed to. I guess like having

741
00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: these big sponsors just kind of help helped me just

742
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 1: I don't know, I guess discover more stuff about myself.

743
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: What I'm hearing you say also is that the backing

744
00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 3: of the sponsors enabled you to have a little bit

745
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,240
Speaker 3: more freedom and find some more air.

746
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: Right for sure? Okay for sure.

747
00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:17,120
Speaker 3: So for someone who doesn't know when you get a sponsorship,

748
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:18,680
Speaker 3: like what does that do for you?

749
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:22,919
Speaker 1: It kind of I mean, speaking from my experience, when

750
00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 1: I was able to get sponsored by Adidas, I was

751
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 1: able to quit my part time job working at pizza spot.

752
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 2: Wait, I want to hear about that. I think what

753
00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: they were really cool.

754
00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 3: I think what we need to know is like give

755
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 3: me a snapshot of what a day looked like when

756
00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 3: you were still working at pizza spot and you were

757
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:44,760
Speaker 3: trying to find the time to skate.

758
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was, uh so, it was like it was

759
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: kind of crazy. I feel like when I was just

760
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: working in skating, I did like a semester of college,

761
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: and I just remember like going to school using their

762
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 1: Wi Fi to look up videos because I didn't have

763
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 1: life at my house, and then you know, going to

764
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: work right after, and I remember like using my scholarship

765
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:08,600
Speaker 1: but I got from college to pay my way to

766
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: a contest, and then I kind of just realized, like

767
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,359
Speaker 1: I need to do this like full time, but there

768
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,680
Speaker 1: was like no route. This is like in twenty sixteen,

769
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: twenty seventeen, like a day to day would literally be

770
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,880
Speaker 1: like I would go to the skate park where if

771
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm not in school, I'll go to the skate park,

772
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:28,479
Speaker 1: and then I would end it around two thirty, rinse off,

773
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 1: and then go into work at like three, and then

774
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,920
Speaker 1: like work at night, like the night shift, and then

775
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: rinse and repeat.

776
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 3: And then taking a thought or look at it now

777
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: if I know right now again we're traveling, but like

778
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:43,959
Speaker 3: if you have to think of a normal day, Because

779
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 3: you just said that you like weight training, you like

780
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 3: stretching after your skating, so like, what does training look

781
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 3: like for you these days?

782
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,760
Speaker 1: For me, it's definitely like I definitely like to probably

783
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: be up, but like depending like if I have a workout,

784
00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: it would probably be like no thirty to like ten

785
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: thirty workout and then go back like rintse off and

786
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,400
Speaker 1: then by like two two thirty, I probably just go skate,

787
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: whether it's street skating right at a skate park that's

788
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:11,640
Speaker 1: kind of like what it looks like. But and then

789
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,560
Speaker 1: like on the days because I only I like only

790
00:36:14,160 --> 00:36:17,320
Speaker 1: train off the board like two days a week because

791
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,719
Speaker 1: skating is so physical that, like you like I kind

792
00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:22,280
Speaker 1: of just leave the rest of the days for skating.

793
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and especially.

794
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,720
Speaker 1: Now with contests, I kind of just do weekdays targeted

795
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: towards getting ready for contests, and then Saturday Sunday just

796
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,680
Speaker 1: free skate. Like just if I want to be creative,

797
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,399
Speaker 1: if I want to go skate downtown, like just kind

798
00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,799
Speaker 1: of let myself breathe a little bit. That's kind of

799
00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 1: just been my routine lately.

800
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 3: How do you think that creativity plays into what you're doing?

801
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 4: I feel like it balances it out.

802
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,160
Speaker 1: I feel like it takes less stress off of contests

803
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: and it just allows me just to skate, like just

804
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,200
Speaker 1: to be free and have no pressure.

805
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

806
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like you need a balance for sure.

807
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think that balance is like a hard

808
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,880
Speaker 3: thing to find, especially when you have goal. Sometimes you

809
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: question the balance or like the routine that you've put together. Yeah,

810
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 3: what's your relationship then with balance?

811
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: I guess you I kind of learn it along the way,

812
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 1: Like if something's not working, then I try to figure

813
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: out what's wrong, and then I try to balance it

814
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: out so I can avoid that situation. But I feel

815
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: like I'm constantly learning, like what it's like to fully

816
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,480
Speaker 1: balance stuff, you know, because I feel like it's just

817
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: constantly different.

818
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is totally different.

819
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 3: So as you make your way toward the summer games,

820
00:37:32,120 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 3: talk to me a little bit about, you know, what

821
00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 3: has been the biggest victory so far for you on

822
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: this journey and maybe the most difficult part of the

823
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 3: journey thus far.

824
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:43,280
Speaker 4: It's weird.

825
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,600
Speaker 1: I feel like it'd be the same answer. I feel

826
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 1: like it would be staying on the ride. Yeah, I

827
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,359
Speaker 1: feel like it's been the best thing that I've done,

828
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: But it's also been the most difficult thing. Yeah, is

829
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: like staying on the ride because I feel like everything's

830
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: just kind of moving very fast.

831
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 4: But also it's like, yeah, you know, like it's good

832
00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:01,200
Speaker 4: when it's good.

833
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 1: It's good when you're competing and you're doing good, but

834
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 1: it's also really hard when you're like not doing the

835
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:09,399
Speaker 1: performance you want to be doing. But I also feel like, yeah,

836
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 1: just like staying on the ride has been like hard

837
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: but also good for me.

838
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 3: How do you pick yourself back up when you're not

839
00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: performing how you want to?

840
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 4: I kind of just I let myself have a moment.

841
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 4: I let myself be bummed.

842
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: I let myself, you know, but I like kind of

843
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:30,160
Speaker 1: give myself maybe like twenty four hours and then after that,

844
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: like all right, just go back and just keep it

845
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 1: simple and go skate. You know. I try to, and

846
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,760
Speaker 1: but I do allow myself to kind of have moments

847
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,640
Speaker 1: when I'm like, you know, in a hard time.

848
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 4: I'm going to tell you a story really quick.

849
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: Love that cool.

850
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 3: So I used to be the fitness editor at Self

851
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:50,600
Speaker 3: magazine and for the Olympics issue. When I was working there,

852
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 3: this is the twenty sixteen Games, I interviewed a actual hurdler.

853
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 3: Her name's don Harper Nelson and she competed in Beijing

854
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: and famously tripped over the hurdle in her heat and

855
00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,839
Speaker 3: like completely wiped out and was so devastated over it,

856
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 3: like as you can imagine, like you gear up for

857
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: this one day, ye so sad. And she had the

858
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:17,040
Speaker 3: decision in that moment she was either going to go

859
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,719
Speaker 3: to they make you go through this media line like

860
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 3: before you leave the stadium when you're in track and field,

861
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 3: and she was like, oh hell no, like I'm not

862
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 3: going to the media line, and she literally jumped one

863
00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,200
Speaker 3: fence and then she was waiting to jump the se

864
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,000
Speaker 3: like she was about to jump the second fence so

865
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 3: that she could get out of the stadium. When it

866
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,560
Speaker 3: hit her, she was like, I have two choices right now.

867
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 3: I can jump the second fence and make this decision

868
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 3: that I'm not going to face what just happened, or

869
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,240
Speaker 3: I can turn around jump the fence I just jumped

870
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 3: over and go face the media line and understand that

871
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 3: this one bad moment doesn't need to make a bad day.

872
00:39:53,640 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 3: And that mental muscle, that mental fortitude, that strain, that resilience,

873
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,960
Speaker 3: that's not something that just happens in a second. You

874
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:08,400
Speaker 3: don't develop that in a second. Your resilience builds just

875
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 3: like a muscle, you have to give it something to

876
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: push up against. And it was that extremely difficult hurdle

877
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: moment as we call them on the show that she

878
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 3: went to talk to the media and she had to

879
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,880
Speaker 3: chat about what happened that forever made her a better person.

880
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:27,800
Speaker 3: So for you, as you're going through these difficult you know, tricks,

881
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 3: you're sometimes nailing them, sometimes not on the ride, so

882
00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 3: to speak, you're learning, like, all right, this is all

883
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: happening for me. It might not feel good all the time,

884
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 3: but at least I have the mental fortitude and the

885
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 3: understanding that it's going to help me get to where

886
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 3: I want to be, even if where you want to

887
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,479
Speaker 3: be technically isn't on the podium at the Olympic Games.

888
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy.

889
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 1: I mean, it's so crazy when you say that, because

890
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: I feel like I've not that intensive a moment, But

891
00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: I definitely understand like what it kind of like when

892
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: you have to make a choice and whether you like

893
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 1: want that to validate you or you already can validate

894
00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:07,480
Speaker 1: yourself and like like not make it a bad day.

895
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 4: It was just a bad moment.

896
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I kind.

897
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:11,959
Speaker 1: Of like really respect that for sure, because I feel

898
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:15,440
Speaker 1: like skateboarding is pretty similar in the aspect of like

899
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: sometimes like you'll do like an embarrassing slam, like a

900
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: really hard slam, like and I feel like it's up

901
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: to you. It's always like up to you at the

902
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: end of the day to either let that validate you

903
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,759
Speaker 1: or if you keep pushing you know. So, Yeah, that's

904
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: such a crazy story. Yeah, it's pretty amazing, honestly.

905
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 3: I mean it's definitely inspiring, and it's been something that

906
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,040
Speaker 3: I think about every time that I get a know,

907
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: and it's comical because I'm sure you have experienced this

908
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,920
Speaker 3: in your own way. But I would say my days

909
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,600
Speaker 3: are often like seventy five percent no and then twenty

910
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 3: five percent yes. And I've gotten so good for the

911
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: most part at handling no. It doesn't mean that they

912
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 3: all feel great, but it means that if I got

913
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 3: all yeses, would not be as tenacious or resilient or

914
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 3: even proud of the things that I do accomplish because

915
00:42:06,239 --> 00:42:07,960
Speaker 3: I it was too easy.

916
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 2: I like the work, I like the grind.

917
00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, that's definitely like skating like learning my

918
00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: first kickflip took me like years. I had to like

919
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: watch my brother, he such a fast learner, learned it

920
00:42:19,040 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: with him like a week and I'm literally in the

921
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: front yard just going. And then like finally after like

922
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: a year figuring it out. Like, once you land that one,

923
00:42:27,160 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: it's just so like groundbreaking for yourself. You're like, wow, okay,

924
00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 1: like I can actually do this, you know, but it

925
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: just cancels out all the nose totally.

926
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 3: It reminds me of the first time I ever did

927
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 3: a pull up and it took me like so, I mean,

928
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 3: I don't think I could do it now.

929
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:42,839
Speaker 2: This is like eight years ago.

930
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 3: I was in a CrossFit phase and I did the

931
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,200
Speaker 3: pull up and I'm so proud of it, But it

932
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 3: had taken me so long to get to that one point.

933
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 3: And then once you get it, you all of a

934
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,839
Speaker 3: sudden have this muscle memory that you couldn't figure out

935
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,759
Speaker 3: for so long to nail that one thing.

936
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's kind of powerful, you know. That's why

937
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: you keep going back for it.

938
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 3: Entirely true. So tell me a little bit. There's two

939
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 3: things I want to touch on. The first thing was

940
00:43:06,560 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 3: you said you were sending tapes to California. Talk to

941
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 3: me a little bit about why like filming and like

942
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: capturing content is such a big part of your sport.

943
00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: I just feel like at the time, the only outlet

944
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 1: to find girl skaters was through like YouTube, So like

945
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:27,560
Speaker 1: I would watch like Girls Skate Network, which was like

946
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,600
Speaker 1: this YouTube. I would have like the girl skatings in

947
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,520
Speaker 1: California and they would all be skating together and that

948
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: was kind of like my I guess, like I would

949
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:40,960
Speaker 1: get inspiration from those. So for me, like it was

950
00:43:41,000 --> 00:43:42,960
Speaker 1: more of like I would go out with my friends

951
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: and like I would skate with my brothers at the

952
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: time too. We all like kind of started at the

953
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 1: same time. We would have like a person with a camera.

954
00:43:49,880 --> 00:43:52,719
Speaker 1: We would film like little videos I guess sponsor me

955
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: tapes is what they're called. And uh, we would kind

956
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: of just send them out, like I would just send

957
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:00,880
Speaker 1: them to like the email Girls Skating Nowork. Didn't think

958
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: they were going to respond or anything, but yeah, definitely

959
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,359
Speaker 1: they got back, which was crazy, and they were like, yeah,

960
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 1: like you seem like like at a good level, like

961
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: why don't you come check out this like contest And

962
00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:14,239
Speaker 1: at the time they had like exposure and like this

963
00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 1: contest called Wheels of Fortune, and that was when like

964
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 1: that was like miracle territory for me because I was

965
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: like the girls that I would watch on YouTube would

966
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,839
Speaker 1: be there, so I got to be like.

967
00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: Rubbed shoulders with them.

968
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:27,160
Speaker 1: At the time, I wasn't expecting, like, you know, like

969
00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: anything from it. I just wanted to be in that

970
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,240
Speaker 1: environment and see what would happen.

971
00:44:31,760 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 3: I'm obsessed with this phrase miracle territory. I feel like

972
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 3: it's like literally the like the goal, the goal is

973
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 3: to put yourself in miracle territory and understand that anything

974
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 3: that happens there like it's a dope ass place to be.

975
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 4: Yeah.

976
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 2: Yeah.

977
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 3: And on that note, women you admire skateboarding not a

978
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: super loaded with women's sport.

979
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: Yes or no?

980
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 4: No?

981
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:00,480
Speaker 3: Okay, Now, how does it feel for you to be

982
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:06,240
Speaker 3: excelling within a sport that's not conventionally for women.

983
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 4: I think it's pretty crazy.

984
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,799
Speaker 1: I would have to give credit to like the top

985
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: women who came before me, because they I feel like

986
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: they opened the door and they kind of kept the

987
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: door open for skaters like me to actually have a

988
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: career in it because they just did it for no

989
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: check and like they just did it because they enjoyed

990
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: it and.

991
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 4: Everything like that. Not that I was doing it for a.

992
00:45:26,280 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 1: Check, but seeing like seeing them as role models kind

993
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 1: of inspired me to pick up a board and not

994
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 1: really expect to check, you know, and that kind of

995
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 1: just built the love for it. And yeah, I just

996
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: have to give shout out to like.

997
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,200
Speaker 4: The women before me. I don't know, like the five

998
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 4: women before.

999
00:45:41,880 --> 00:45:46,120
Speaker 3: Me the way that you say so few and far between, right,

1000
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: and so what would you say the most difficult part

1001
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 3: is of being a pioneer and a pace center within skateboarding.

1002
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:55,680
Speaker 4: I guess I don't know.

1003
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 1: I feel like every skater kind of goes to the

1004
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: same difficulties. I guess, like for like females, I guess

1005
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: it was just seeing representation of girls actually being accepted, actually.

1006
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: Making a career out of it.

1007
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,879
Speaker 1: I guess just knowing that that could be a possibility,

1008
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 1: Like you could just be doing this all your life

1009
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 1: and maybe not be getting paid, so you should really

1010
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:17,200
Speaker 1: learn to love it or you know, move on. And

1011
00:46:17,239 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: that kind of just developed me in a different way

1012
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: for that I could just like really enjoy and love it.

1013
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: You know.

1014
00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: What's wild is that there's such a movement happening right

1015
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 3: now about women in sport.

1016
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:32,320
Speaker 2: It's about time.

1017
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 3: But to see, you know, right now, you open your

1018
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 3: social media feed and so many people are only for

1019
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 3: the first time learning that WNBA draft players get paid

1020
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: under eighty thousand dollars a year and NBA draft players

1021
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 3: get a twenty one million dollar contract over four years.

1022
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 3: Right crazy, And the dialogue over that is wild. It's

1023
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,879
Speaker 3: wild because a there's this whole camp of people who

1024
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 3: had no idea, and then be there's this whole camp

1025
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:05,160
Speaker 3: of people that are like, well, well, then the WNBA

1026
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 3: needs to make more money. So for you to be,

1027
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:12,040
Speaker 3: you know, someone who's such a prominent female figure in

1028
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:15,600
Speaker 3: your field, does it ever feel like a little bit

1029
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: heavy to be in that position?

1030
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel like it does.

1031
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: But I also feel like if I wasn't meant to

1032
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,200
Speaker 1: do it, then I probably wouldn't be in this position.

1033
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,840
Speaker 1: So I feel like I've kind of just learned to

1034
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: accept my role and whatever that is, Like there's no

1035
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:35,719
Speaker 1: specific role, but yeah, like I know people coming after me,

1036
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: like people like the generation coming after me is going

1037
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: to have their own responsibilities and own things to go through.

1038
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 4: So it's just my job to guess, Yeah, stay on

1039
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 4: the ride.

1040
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 2: What excites you right now?

1041
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:52,400
Speaker 1: Probably the person I'll meet after the Olympics that excites

1042
00:47:52,440 --> 00:47:54,920
Speaker 1: me a lot. I'm excited to meet my future self

1043
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: because I feel like it's one of those things that

1044
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: you never know what it's going to be like, and

1045
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: I feel like I kind of just have confidence that.

1046
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 4: Like when everybody asked you, like if.

1047
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,719
Speaker 1: You were ten years old, like what would you tell

1048
00:48:06,760 --> 00:48:09,279
Speaker 1: yourself back then, Like, it's kind of like I kind

1049
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 1: of flip it and just be like, I can't wait

1050
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:13,399
Speaker 1: to see myself in like five years and see where

1051
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:17,360
Speaker 1: what I've done, Because skateboarding in the Olympics was definitely

1052
00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: not in the conversation when I picked it up at

1053
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 1: ten years old, you know, having a career in this

1054
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,799
Speaker 1: was definitely not in the conversation. So I'm kind of

1055
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:27,360
Speaker 1: just I don't know, I guess just excited for the future.

1056
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 3: I would be remiss if we didn't touch on injury

1057
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 3: at all in this conversation, because it's got to.

1058
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 2: Be, yeah, such a part of what you do.

1059
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:42,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, first of all, what would you say has been

1060
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:47,080
Speaker 3: the most difficult injury for you to overcome as a skateboarder?

1061
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's gonna be. I mean, it's crazy because I

1062
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:54,759
Speaker 1: feel like there was a there was one injury where

1063
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: I like cracked my tailbone skateboarding, and it was kind

1064
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,440
Speaker 1: of on a trick that was not as difficult, and

1065
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 1: I feel like that was kind of hard for me

1066
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,560
Speaker 1: to grasp because it was such.

1067
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 4: Like a easier trick.

1068
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: I would say it was definitely hard coming back from

1069
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: that one because it was kind of unfamiliar territory, like

1070
00:49:11,960 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: not much you could do for your tawbone, just kind

1071
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: of like wait it out. But because like when you skateboard,

1072
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 1: you're gonna get shinners, you're gonna get bruises, and shinners

1073
00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:21,840
Speaker 1: are when the board hits your shin, and uh.

1074
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 2: You're already understanding when I was gonna ask.

1075
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,120
Speaker 1: That, Yeah, shinners are when the board hits your shin.

1076
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: So those come with it. Ankle rolls come with it

1077
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: a lot, so you kind of just accept those. Some

1078
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,399
Speaker 1: of them could be worse than others. I would say

1079
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: my tailbone injury was pretty hard because you know, you

1080
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:40,080
Speaker 1: fall on your your butt like the whole time, you know,

1081
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,880
Speaker 1: and when you come back from an injury like that

1082
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 1: and you kind of rely on falling to kind of

1083
00:49:44,760 --> 00:49:47,600
Speaker 1: teach you. It was a little bit hard to I guess,

1084
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 1: get back to like a flow where I had it.

1085
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, that was probably mainly like the only one

1086
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: that was kind of like a little bit unfamiliar territory.

1087
00:49:55,880 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: Everything else, Like I had a rolled ankle last year

1088
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:02,880
Speaker 1: pretty bad, but I wasn't worried because I knew I

1089
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 1: could just I knew I've like been in that territory before,

1090
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: so I knew like over time I would be able

1091
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: to get back on my board. But it is a

1092
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:12,839
Speaker 1: scary feeling as like is my inkle gonna be able

1093
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:14,719
Speaker 1: to take the impact as it did? Is it gonna

1094
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,600
Speaker 1: be able to flick my board as easy? Because it's

1095
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 1: such a different type of strength that an inkle has

1096
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: to build. So I guess just kind of having faith

1097
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: and like the muscle memory and just doing the groundwork

1098
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 1: kind of just you just have to trust it.

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Speaker 3: How long were you down and out from the tailbone injury?

1100
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 3: Tallbone injury.

1101
00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 4: I think it was like.

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00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:35,399
Speaker 1: A stress fracture, So I think it was like three

1103
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: weeks like and then it like the bone finally like

1104
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: came together. But then like three weeks of just like

1105
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:44,640
Speaker 1: kind of building muscle around it again and then probably

1106
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 1: like two months getting confidence back. Yeah, because like you

1107
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: like when you think of like, oh I don't want

1108
00:50:50,840 --> 00:50:52,440
Speaker 1: to fall on my butt, Like it's so like you

1109
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 1: put so much energy into that you almost feel like

1110
00:50:54,719 --> 00:50:56,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna fall on it every time.

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00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: Well, this goes back to our conversation about fear.

1112
00:50:58,560 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, in these moments, you had already for so

1113
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:08,880
Speaker 3: long overcome that fear, and we're willing to experience a

1114
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 3: certain amount of discomfort, a certain amount of pain, and

1115
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: then the way that you learned to cope with something

1116
00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 3: not going your way suddenly became something that you weren't

1117
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 3: capable of doing anymore.

1118
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,120
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah, super crazy.

1119
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,080
Speaker 3: You have to completely rethink it and redevelop that relationship.

1120
00:51:24,320 --> 00:51:26,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, like trust, yeah, trust yourself again.

1121
00:51:26,719 --> 00:51:30,319
Speaker 3: Which is hella difficult, hella difficult. And I mean that's

1122
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,799
Speaker 3: literally what happens in every awful thing that we go

1123
00:51:32,840 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 3: through as humans. Like you go through a bad breakup

1124
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,759
Speaker 3: and then like you have no trust for anyone in

1125
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 3: all of humanity, right yeah, Or you get let go

1126
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 3: from a job and it has nothing to do with you,

1127
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 3: but then all of a sudden, your entire sense of

1128
00:51:44,440 --> 00:51:46,920
Speaker 3: self worth is like completely thrown out the window, and

1129
00:51:46,920 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 3: they're gonna be all these different things that throw these

1130
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 3: curveballs or appropriate these hurdles at you, and you have

1131
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,920
Speaker 3: to get to the point where you're like, okay, I

1132
00:51:55,960 --> 00:51:58,280
Speaker 3: can try to get over it again, and that shit's

1133
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:58,880
Speaker 3: hell scary.

1134
00:51:59,680 --> 00:51:59,919
Speaker 4: Feel.

1135
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 1: It is definitely super scary, but it's even more rewarding

1136
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:04,520
Speaker 1: when you like keep going.

1137
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 3: You know, definitely, someone comes to your Instagram page, they

1138
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 3: see an Olympian, someone who's gearing up for round two.

1139
00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 3: When you look in the mirror, what is it that

1140
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 3: you see looking back at you, Mariah.

1141
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 1: I would see somebody who's just ready for the moment,

1142
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 1: whatever that has to be, whether it's good moments or

1143
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: bad moments. I would see somebody who's kind of ready

1144
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 1: to take on whatever you have to do to make

1145
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: it happen, to put yourself in a position, you know,

1146
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 1: to potentially podium at the Olympics, but also be willing

1147
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:41,520
Speaker 1: to accept yourself if that isn't the case for you.

1148
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 2: That wasn't the case for your last Olympics.

1149
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: No, yeah, I would say that one definitely was a

1150
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: little bit hard to come back from because it was

1151
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,000
Speaker 1: like the first time ever there was a lot of

1152
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,800
Speaker 1: noise coming into it, doing interviews, doing all this hype,

1153
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,319
Speaker 1: whereas like X games and stuff, it's kind of like,

1154
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, good weekend, you know, and then go back

1155
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 1: to it. But I think after going through the first time,

1156
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:09,720
Speaker 1: understanding that, yeah, I guess, just understanding that I feel

1157
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: valid on a board, whether it's in a contest, on

1158
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: the podium or just out in the street or even

1159
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: off my board. I guess just accepting myself for who

1160
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 1: I am. I feel like that's gonna get me through

1161
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 1: whatever I don't know, life has to throw out me

1162
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:23,000
Speaker 1: in the next few.

1163
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 3: Months, totally like Mariah separate from Mariah the skateboarder. Yeah,

1164
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,759
Speaker 3: having your own sense of identity beyond sport, which is

1165
00:53:29,800 --> 00:53:32,479
Speaker 3: a super hard thing to do, especially when your sport

1166
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 3: is literally your career.

1167
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,879
Speaker 4: Yeah, still figuring it out. It's a learning process, but.

1168
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:40,240
Speaker 3: It's a learning process for all of us, truly, truly,

1169
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 3: And so now, how will you handle the build up

1170
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,839
Speaker 3: to this year's Games knowing how the build up and

1171
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,480
Speaker 3: all that noise impacted you the last time around?

1172
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,879
Speaker 1: I guess, you know, going through the first time, whereas like, yeah,

1173
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,360
Speaker 1: of course you want to win gold meutal on the

1174
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:02,520
Speaker 1: Olympics and that scenario it didn't happen. But in between,

1175
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:05,000
Speaker 1: I got to drop video projects and I got to

1176
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,400
Speaker 1: take home a gold medal and X Games. Like knowing

1177
00:54:07,440 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: that there's still a path for me in skateboarding, I

1178
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,480
Speaker 1: feel a little bit more comfortable kind of just approaching this,

1179
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: you know, Olympics as just you know, I guess, just

1180
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:19,479
Speaker 1: being in the in the moment, appreciating like the next

1181
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 1: two contests that are going to be like super big.

1182
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 4: I guess, enjoying the scenery that.

1183
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be at because you know, it's kind of

1184
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 1: a privilege to be in the situation I'm in, so

1185
00:54:29,160 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: kind of just get the most out of it.

1186
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love that. A privilege to be in the

1187
00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 3: situation also a privilege. Even though at times there are

1188
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,320
Speaker 3: people that critique the concept of skateboarding being within the Olympics.

1189
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:43,760
Speaker 1: What do you say to that skateboarding is so big

1190
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: that it's such a self like it's whatever you.

1191
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: Want, Like, if you want to be an Olympian, you

1192
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 4: go right ahead.

1193
00:54:50,719 --> 00:54:53,040
Speaker 1: And be Olympian, you know, like you if you want

1194
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 1: to be a street skater, you go ahead and do that.

1195
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: If you want to just skate for fun with your

1196
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: friends and just do that. Like it's not there's no structure,

1197
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: there's no specific way to do it, there's.

1198
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 4: No wrong way to do it. It's all about what

1199
00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 4: you want to do with it.

1200
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:13,000
Speaker 3: What do you hope for the next generation of young

1201
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,360
Speaker 3: women who are getting on their boards now.

1202
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 1: I just I just hope that they, like, you know,

1203
00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:21,319
Speaker 1: they do it for the right reasons. I hope that

1204
00:55:21,520 --> 00:55:24,480
Speaker 1: because skateboarding is really hard, So I hope that they

1205
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,719
Speaker 1: really enjoy, you know, what they do, and like love

1206
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: it because it's like you're gonna come into those moments

1207
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,439
Speaker 1: where you don't know if you want to keep going

1208
00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 1: or not. So I hope that they kind of can

1209
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: build like the resilience and have like a good supporting

1210
00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,319
Speaker 1: system around them to you know, really bring out the

1211
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: best of who they are.

1212
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 2: Who are you outside of skating?

1213
00:55:44,640 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 4: I'm just existing. I don't know.

1214
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't. I don't it's weird. I guess

1215
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 1: I'm just I don't know. Just the person you know

1216
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 1: that just appreciates other people, other athletes, appreciates any other person.

1217
00:55:57,560 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: I guess I'm just here just to bring the best

1218
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: out of people.

1219
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 4: Hopefully.

1220
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I love that.

1221
00:56:03,840 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 3: I'm so happy that we were able to do this

1222
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 3: before I let you go, and you like already started

1223
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,680
Speaker 3: to answer this, So I seriously should just like hang

1224
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 3: up my microphones and let you take my job. You know,

1225
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:17,760
Speaker 3: we talked about that difficult moment before the second competition

1226
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,439
Speaker 3: at the X Games where you thought about not showing

1227
00:56:19,520 --> 00:56:20,080
Speaker 3: up the next day.

1228
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've talked about the tailbone injury.

1229
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 3: You've had a lot of hurdles throughout your career, but

1230
00:56:24,719 --> 00:56:28,240
Speaker 3: you've still shown up and proven resilient amidst them all.

1231
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 3: If you at the opportunity right now to offer yourself

1232
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:34,920
Speaker 3: a piece of advice during one of those most difficult times,

1233
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 3: what would you tell yourself.

1234
00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: I would tell myself that it's normal what I'm feeling,

1235
00:56:40,520 --> 00:56:42,480
Speaker 1: because sometimes it could feel like you need to be

1236
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,680
Speaker 1: a hero or you need to be like, you know,

1237
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 1: just as superhero or something. But I would probably just

1238
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: comfort myself and be like, it's it's all good, Like

1239
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 1: you'll be all right after this.

1240
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: You'll be all right.

1241
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 3: For those of the hurdlers listening to this that don't

1242
00:56:56,160 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 3: follow you just yet, how do they keep up with you?

1243
00:56:58,360 --> 00:56:59,320
Speaker 2: Give us your details?

1244
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 1: Just Instagram Ride, Duran Underscore, Twitter Snapchat.

1245
00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's been a minute. It's been a minute since

1246
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:10,879
Speaker 3: someone's plugged their snapchat on the show.

1247
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 4: I kind of I kind of realized that.

1248
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't even know if that's it's Pally,

1249
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 1: it's Holly still there.

1250
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:20,200
Speaker 3: But I love that it's there. I'm over at Emily

1251
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 3: a body at Hurdle Podcast. Another Hurdle conquered. Catch you

1252
00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 3: guys next time.