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Speaker 2: So, the first thing Carry Rhodes told me since we

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Speaker 2: found out Mike Tomlin was stepping down after nineteen seasons,

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Speaker 2: wasn't It wasn't what a great coach. It wasn't so

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Speaker 2: tough to play against, wasn't. Can you believe this?

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Speaker 3: It was?

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Speaker 2: I told you so. Carry Rhodes is on a heater.

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Speaker 2: It's why he's taking victory laps around this studio. Welcome in,

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Speaker 2: it is Fox Sports Radio. You didn't think Mike Tomlin

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Speaker 2: would be back. I asked you this, I asked you this.

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Speaker 2: But last week it was Aaron Rodgers, Mike Tomlin, John Harbaugh,

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Speaker 2: and you didn't think Tomlin would be back? And what

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Speaker 2: do you know, Mike Tomlin's stepping down today. It's the

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Speaker 2: breaking news in the NFL after nineteen seasons as head

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Speaker 2: coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers, first of all, two out

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Speaker 2: of three so far. We still got to wait for

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Speaker 2: the other announcement for the cycle. But that kind of

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Speaker 2: leads into this one right with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, it does.

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Speaker 2: It really does.

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Speaker 4: It's one of those things where, I mean, all three

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Speaker 4: of those guys have been great for the league, and

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Speaker 4: they've had their time, and we know that that game

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Speaker 4: and all sports, it's a young man's game. And you know,

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Speaker 4: once you get all these young guys in, you get

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Speaker 4: these new attitudes, you get these new generations of people

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Speaker 4: that are coming coming to your work, so to speak.

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Speaker 4: And you've been working there for a long time, You've

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Speaker 4: been a valued employee for years and years, but you're

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Speaker 4: always trying to look and check and see if the

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Speaker 4: younger person has a higher output, a higher degree of intensity,

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Speaker 4: a higher degree of want to and all those things

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Speaker 4: matter when you get older. I was sitting on my

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Speaker 4: couch last night watching that game and Mike Tomlin looked

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Speaker 4: like he was done, like he was fighting to win

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Speaker 4: the game. But it was almost like, all right, this

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Speaker 4: thing is over. You can kind of feel that energy.

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Speaker 4: And then when you look at Aaron Rodgers and I

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Speaker 4: know we're gonna talk about him later, Like when you

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Speaker 4: look at all of that happening last night, I was

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Speaker 4: on my couch and you know, I'm Aaron Rodgers came

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Speaker 4: in the same year in the draft, and I couldn't

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Speaker 4: think of anything worse to do than be out in

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Speaker 4: twenty degree weather getting hit multiple times, over and over again.

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Speaker 4: And so the look on his face it looked like

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Speaker 4: it was over as well.

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Speaker 2: And so yeah, that's what we are right now, without

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Speaker 2: a realistic chance at a championship, out there being hit

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Speaker 2: like if they thought they were. If Aaron Rodgers thought

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Speaker 2: that the Steelers were going anywhere, maybe a different feeling,

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Speaker 2: right that you're still playing for something. But I don't

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Speaker 2: think any of us had any thoughts that the Steelers

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Speaker 2: were going to go on some miraculous run.

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Speaker 3: Throughout the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: It's why actually thought that the regular season for someone

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Speaker 2: like Rogers was important, because it felt like he was

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Speaker 2: enjoying himself. And I'm wondering at what point did Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin say to himself, yeah, this is probably it. And

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Speaker 2: I know that Aaron Rodgers made some headlines when he

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Speaker 2: was asked about Tomlin last night. I have a feeling

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Speaker 2: I would not be surprised if Rogers knew that Tomlin

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Speaker 2: was going to call it quits after this season. But

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Speaker 2: I just wonder at what point did Tomlin say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is enough. Was it because his team wasn't being competitive?

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Speaker 2: Was it because he wanted a change of scenery. We're

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Speaker 2: Isn't just wanting to do something different in your life

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Speaker 3: Done like Tomlin?

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Speaker 2: The crazy thing about Tommy's fifty three years old, like

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Speaker 2: he's been there for nineteen years. We think, like I asked,

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Speaker 2: sorry to put you on blast, Jason Stewart, but I said,

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Speaker 2: how old do you think Mike Tomlin is? And what

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Speaker 2: did you say? I thought he was like sixty. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: So to do something different, I can understand why it

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Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers are a quick fix by any means. And ultimately, Carrie,

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Speaker 2: I think it probably hurt to hear the fire Mike

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Speaker 2: Tomlin chance to hear all of that stuff. Now, he's

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Speaker 2: instead of having to go through that a whole other season.

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Speaker 2: I assume that at some point he just decided, you

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Speaker 2: We have an aging defense. They're saying fire Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 2: Even though there was a narrative last night coming out

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Speaker 2: sort of thing. But I just felt that he probably

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Speaker 2: it up. He's tied with Chuck Knowle for the ninth

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Speaker 2: all time and wins, so he and the Steelers coach

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Speaker 2: that we talked about him, Bill Kawert, Mike Tomlines like

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Speaker 2: Chuck Nole is very fitting. And I just think that

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Speaker 2: the timing of all of this and not wanting to

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Speaker 2: deal with next season just wasn't worth it for Mike Tomlin.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Steady Eddie doesn't win the race anymore. And in

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Speaker 4: the an hour world at this moment, it's all about Clinton.

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Speaker 4: It's about Flash, it's about winning, it's about winning championships.

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Speaker 4: It's not even about winning. It's just about winning championships.

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Speaker 4: And I think we put so much Infhansis on that,

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Speaker 4: right Like if you think about those old days, you

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Speaker 4: think about a Chuck Nole and you think about the

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Speaker 3: You know how many super Bowls did he win? Dan four?

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Speaker 4: He won four, and so now he's tied. Mike Tomlin's

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Speaker 4: tied with him, And so the fact that they have

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Speaker 4: more just because of the culture and winning championships, which

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Speaker 4: I'm not saying he shouldn't know what I'm saying right now,

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Speaker 4: this guy has the same amount of wins, and winning.

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Speaker 3: The playoffs is hard.

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Speaker 4: And you think about the competition, you think about who

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Speaker 4: he lost, those who he was losing to throughout that time.

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Speaker 4: It was Tom Brady, it was guys who are Hall

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Speaker 4: so you know when you try to equate it to

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Speaker 4: for him, I would see why he would be ready

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Speaker 2: When do you think it hit him? When do you

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Speaker 2: think it hit him that this is done? Because he

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Speaker 2: thought that he was going to be done. Doesn't have

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Speaker 2: way that you think Tomlin could have been last night?

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Speaker 3: Could it have been? When do you think it happened?

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Speaker 4: I think was coming into this year, Okay, Like I

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Speaker 4: could see conversations happening where you know, him and Aaron

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Speaker 3: So if this is my last ride.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go out swinging with the best possible

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Speaker 4: scenario that I think I can muster up in this moment. Right,

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Speaker 4: we never heard about Pittsburgh having any alternate plans at

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Speaker 4: the quarterback position, right. It seemed like it was Aaron

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Speaker 4: all right, let's take this one last ride together and

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Speaker 4: let's see if we can make some magic happen.

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Speaker 2: If not, you know, we both try. And that's what

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Speaker 2: it feels like. You know that that would be worth

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Speaker 2: the point of what we've had with Tomlin. I just

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Speaker 2: it's been a decade. And the over five hundred record

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Speaker 2: wild card loss, wild card loss, wild card loss, and

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Speaker 2: even I would even I would even venture to say carry.

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Speaker 2: When they lost to Cleveland in twenty twenty, it was

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Speaker 2: So everything that we see with Mike Tomlin, and we

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Speaker 2: we all understand while there are marks. It's why we

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Speaker 2: little bit of Ben Roethlisberger's ten year So when Roethlisberger

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Speaker 2: injures his elbow, that was probably the sign for Big

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Speaker 2: to play catch up, but they're still trying to accommodate

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Speaker 2: them two super Bowls, Like those are the things that

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Speaker 2: felt like the Steelers have already done that with Tomlin

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Speaker 2: to this point, but once you hear the fire Tomlin chance,

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Speaker 2: I just think that that would have they hit home.

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Speaker 2: And I don't think he wanted to drag it out

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Speaker 2: with the organization, even though in a season they're third

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Speaker 2: straight ten and seven mark, there technically wouldn't be a

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Speaker 2: obviously made their decision, but I don't know how much

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Speaker 2: it was their decision. But John Harbaugh leaving the Ravens

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Speaker 6: Again, when you when you don't get it done, words

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Speaker 7: After much thought and reflection, I've decided to step down

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Speaker 2: it comes to the Baltimore Ravens. Thanks Manzi, Thanks Jason.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Happy Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: I just don't know if Mike Tomlin is happy that

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Speaker 2: saying enough is enough. The Steelers head coach stepping aside

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Speaker 2: nineteen seasons. That's the story that I believe. That's the

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Speaker 2: It's an ever changing landscape. And now with the coaching

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Speaker 2: Right, we gotta get the Tuesday morning quarterback anyway, Let's

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Speaker 1: Kid, this is Tuesday Morning quarterback in the afternoon. Mondays

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Speaker 1: This is Tuesday morning quarterback in the afternoon.

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Speaker 2: All right, A lot to get to in the National

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Speaker 5: A keynote for everybody that might be partaking for the

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Speaker 2: then the question is what do you do when you

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Speaker 2: pay the guy? And then he got paid and got

437
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Speaker 2: the fifty million or so that he was looking for.

438
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Speaker 2: Wasn't overpaid, No, And I felt that once he got paid,

439
00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 2: it stopped the discussion about him, not because everybody was convinced.

440
00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,320
Speaker 2: It wasn't exciting to talk anymore, because there was no like,

441
00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:38,040
Speaker 2: there was no tipping point one way or another. With

442
00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 2: brock Purdy. The question was were they going to keep him?

443
00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 2: Were they gonna overpay? Were they gonna low ball him?

444
00:20:43,640 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 2: All of those things leading up when he had done

445
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 2: so much from that underdog position was then pushed away

446
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 2: when he signed the contract.

447
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,880
Speaker 3: And unlike like Tom, Brady never had the deal with expectations.

448
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Speaker 2: The only expectations I think Brady had the deal with

449
00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:03,320
Speaker 2: where when he and Peyton Manning were both at the

450
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: top of their game and near the top of their game,

451
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,119
Speaker 2: and it was who was better who was worse? And

452
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Speaker 2: I think in the end Brady pulled away and became

453
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Speaker 2: the goat that he is. But there was a discussion there,

454
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Speaker 2: But at no point did we sit there and say,

455
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Speaker 2: all right, is Tom Brady good enough? Because he went

456
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Speaker 2: and he won a Super Bowl, so there was nothing

457
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Speaker 2: really to talk about him about. And I feel like

458
00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 2: the contract with Purdy is the same way now. If

459
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Speaker 2: they win a Super Bowl and there's gonna be another

460
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Speaker 2: contract coming up in a couple of years, what do

461
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Speaker 2: you do. Maybe that's the conversation. But I think just

462
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Speaker 2: the fact that he got paid and got paid what

463
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Speaker 2: was an acceptable amount took the drama away from Purdy.

464
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Speaker 4: Yeah, dayson, he went from myster irrelevant to one percenter,

465
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Speaker 4: So that discussion changes really quickly. It would almost be

466
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Speaker 4: like if we were watching the movie back in the

467
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Speaker 4: day Rudy and Rudy wasn't all pro like, that movie

468
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Speaker 4: wouldn't be the same. He wouldn't have carried the same weight,

469
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Speaker 4: even though he did get to that point. And there's

470
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Speaker 4: a point where that story is one of those oh

471
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Speaker 4: sucks and it feels good. Once he's that one percent er,

472
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Speaker 4: that story changes really quickly, don't.

473
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Speaker 5: You agree to the guys that the goal posts keep changing? Yes,

474
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:10,640
Speaker 5: pun intended, and that they keep moving it back. It

475
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Speaker 5: was like, well, he's not good enough to get paid

476
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 5: franchise money, and it was mostly doubt. And then it's

477
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Speaker 5: well you can't get to a super Bowl with them, yeah,

478
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Speaker 5: and now it's like, oh, you can't win a super

479
00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 5: Bowl with it. It's like the goalposts camp changing for this.

480
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Speaker 2: Guy and now for as shorthanded as they are.

481
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Speaker 3: Yep.

482
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Speaker 2: I think that he showed his worth, especially with the

483
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Speaker 2: short handed issue with their receiving corps, well that wide

484
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Speaker 2: receiver and tight end. All right, Kerrie, what do you

485
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 2: want to talk about when the National Football League?

486
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Speaker 4: What I want to talk about is a head coach

487
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Speaker 4: that I've known since he was probably nine years old,

488
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Speaker 4: and I knew at nine he was going to be

489
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Speaker 4: this guy and be the person leading a franchise to

490
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Speaker 4: possibly glory. And his name is Demigo Ryan. We don't

491
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Speaker 4: talk a lot about him. We don't talk about their

492
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Speaker 4: team a lot. They won nine games in a row.

493
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Speaker 4: In the regular season, and everybody just kind of was like, Ah,

494
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Speaker 4: the defense is good, offense isn't good enough. They're not

495
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Speaker 4: gonna win, get into a playoff game, wild card weekend?

496
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Speaker 3: Those things are you? Offense did not play well.

497
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Speaker 8: C J.

498
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,200
Speaker 4: Stroud turned the ball over and it looked like it

499
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Speaker 4: was gonna be one of those games.

500
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Speaker 3: Would have stillers, could probably still one.

501
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Speaker 4: But when you have faith and you have somebody that

502
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Speaker 4: believes in their team and can instill that competitive fire

503
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Speaker 4: throughout fourth quarters and throughout the whole season, when you

504
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Speaker 4: start out slow and get to the point they are

505
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Speaker 4: right now, I want to give my flowers to Demico

506
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Speaker 4: Ryans and to the Houston Texans on Tuesday.

507
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Speaker 3: You think they could go to the Super Bowl? I do.

508
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Speaker 3: Do you think they'll beat New England? I do.

509
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Speaker 2: That's gonna be a great game. Like I looked at

510
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Speaker 2: I looked at the bracket, and I said, gosh, thank

511
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Speaker 2: goodness Buffalo one. Because the AFC would have been Jacksonville.

512
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Speaker 2: It would have been excuse me, it would have been

513
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Speaker 2: Houston at Denver and Jacksonville at New England.

514
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Speaker 3: That kind of.

515
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Speaker 2: Would have been like, all right, whatever, this kind of

516
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,200
Speaker 2: whatever story. But when the Bills win and then they

517
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:04,640
Speaker 2: go to Denver. That's his story, yep.

518
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Speaker 3: And not to have Houston going to New England in

519
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 3: these two.

520
00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:13,359
Speaker 2: Relatively young franchises, for the core that they have reaching

521
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Speaker 2: this level makes it a really really good game on Sunday.

522
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Speaker 5: Isn't there a tangential thing to the Demico Ryans thing?

523
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you guys saw I think it

524
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Speaker 5: was Peter Schreger had tweeted out last night. How amazing

525
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Speaker 5: is it that a defensive coordinator for the Texans, Matt Burke,

526
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Speaker 5: hasn't been mentioned in this hiring cycle as much? Yeah,

527
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Speaker 5: I want to say that because isn't the perception at

528
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Speaker 5: least that Demico Ryans is in charge of it prioritizes

529
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Speaker 5: the defense, and it probably takes away from the zest

530
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Speaker 5: of Matt Burke?

531
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Speaker 3: Is that is that factor in one hundred percent?

532
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Speaker 4: He's a defensive guy and he came in and Demico

533
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 4: was calling right at the beginning of his tenure, and

534
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Speaker 4: we talked about like Mike Tomlin in that situation right

535
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Speaker 4: like it's.

536
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Speaker 3: Still his game.

537
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Speaker 4: It feels like Demico has his imprints, but he allows

538
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Speaker 4: what's the guy's name against Burke That's my point.

539
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Speaker 3: I no right to run the show aiden dirt it.

540
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:07,719
Speaker 2: The Seahawks defensive coordinator is getting interviews, but it's Mike

541
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Speaker 2: McDonald's defense in Seattle. So it's interesting that Burke isn't

542
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: got But this is this is happening, Monci. You're off

543
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,240
Speaker 2: ative plate. What sticks up for you from the NFL

544
00:25:16,280 --> 00:25:17,400
Speaker 2: over these last three days?

545
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Speaker 7: You know, this kind of bounces off a little bit

546
00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 7: of what Jason brought up with brock perty mister ir

547
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 7: relevant and what's happening with him to a year later,

548
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Speaker 7: the number one overall pick Bryce Young after the performance

549
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Speaker 7: against the Rams were like a good team. Bryce Young

550
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Speaker 7: has been good. I know they extended his fifth year

551
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Speaker 7: option today or they picked up his fifth year option,

552
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Speaker 7: but like.

553
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Speaker 2: What do you do?

554
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Speaker 7: The fact that he played well against the Rams, I

555
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 7: feel like complicates the situation for Carolina. Yeah, and so

556
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Speaker 7: I don't know what they're gonna do. Even though he

557
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,359
Speaker 7: I'm a big fan of Bryce Young. We talk our brother,

558
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 7: little brothers, our little brother. I feel like every year

559
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 7: he's gotten better and better. And in that Rams game,

560
00:25:55,680 --> 00:25:57,640
Speaker 7: they were in it. They were in it until the end. Now,

561
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Speaker 7: if he would have caught that ball at the end

562
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Speaker 7: where they had had enough time to maybe get a

563
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Speaker 7: field goal.

564
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Speaker 3: I don't know, but he.

565
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Speaker 7: Did his job, and it seems like the Panthers are

566
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Speaker 7: in a really awkward position right now where it's like,

567
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 7: what do you do? Dan and I have sat there

568
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 7: and talked about like I'd give him a promise ring,

569
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Speaker 7: But I feel like now it's even a little bit

570
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 7: more complicated because they were in it against the Rams

571
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 7: once again in the playoffs where everyone steps their game up.

572
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 7: He didn't, you know what I mean, He didn't cause

573
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Speaker 7: them to lose. He helped them get down when they

574
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 7: needed to downfield. So it's just like, I don't from

575
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Speaker 7: mister irrelevant to the number one pick, like, how do

576
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Speaker 7: you handle this?

577
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Speaker 3: Going? Uh way?

578
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 8: Yeah?

579
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Speaker 2: I think I think them picking up the option is

580
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 2: reflective of what happened on Saturday, is they believe in him.

581
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 2: If they didn't believe in him enough but still wanted

582
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: to keep him wrong with the promise ring, they could

583
00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: have negotiated a two year deal where he wouldn't make

584
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Speaker 2: the twenty six and a half million dollars that was

585
00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,520
Speaker 2: due in the fifth year option, so they at least

586
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 2: have enough confidence to pay him twenty six and a

587
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 2: half million dollars. But Tomazi's question, Now, you've got two

588
00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 2: years and really you've got one year to determine if

589
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 2: he is your guy for the for the future on

590
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 2: a long term deal. Is he even gonna be good

591
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: enough to be the franchise? Like, would you franchise take him?

592
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 2: If you don't, if you're if the jury is still

593
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,320
Speaker 2: out after a year, this is a good step for

594
00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:14,880
Speaker 2: Bryce Young, But yeah, the jury is still out.

595
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:19,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been it's been an incremental growth process that's

596
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,000
Speaker 4: happened with Bryce Young.

597
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:23,159
Speaker 3: And we talked about it.

598
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 4: Steady steady Eddie doesn't win the race, especially when they're

599
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 4: in the vision, like the Carolina Panthers.

600
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 3: They wanted the vision at eight to nine, right by default.

601
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 4: By default, right, So he has played well in spots,

602
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,960
Speaker 4: but not well enough, and so you get an opportunity

603
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 4: in the playoffs where these games start to count and

604
00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: he shows his butt off, he shows that I can't

605
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 4: get the job done. This next year for Carolina is

606
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 4: going to be so much pressure on everybody involved, and

607
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:49,440
Speaker 4: that's him included.

608
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 2: There's also the fact of like a guy like Anthony

609
00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 2: Richardson isn't going to have his option ticked off, right, Yeah,

610
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: so so like the culture like, all right, well, we

611
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 2: don't think he's probably gonna be our guy in the

612
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: future anymore.

613
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 3: We can live with that.

614
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 2: But if something we're crazy to happen, they're they're willing

615
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,719
Speaker 2: to live with with that decision. Yeah, the Panthers were

616
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 2: not willing to do that with Bryce Young that they

617
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:15,399
Speaker 2: believed in him enough to pick up the option.

618
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: So now it bides them time.

619
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Speaker 2: But I don't think Tomanti's point anybody is sold yet

620
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,400
Speaker 2: that this is that this is the guy. They did

621
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 2: it pretty quickly. I mean, because you haven't till may,

622
00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 2: you know, so like I'm going to do it three.

623
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 2: That shows at least confidence in your quarterback. Yeah, Ryan

624
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: Smith for a limited time only. I'm gonna be the

625
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:37,520
Speaker 2: biggest Seahawks fan.

626
00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 3: You have ever seen.

627
00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 8: Ryan.

628
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: Don't do that.

629
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Speaker 9: I'm not sick and tired of broad party. He's just

630
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 9: a guy. When everything's going right, he plays fine. Mac

631
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 9: Jones proved that. I mean when, but you know, if

632
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 9: something goes wrong, he falls apart. Remember two years ago,

633
00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,720
Speaker 9: I think it was when the Ravens destroyed him. The

634
00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 9: Seahawks have already destroyed him, Like I said, if something

635
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 9: goes wrong, he just you see why he was picked last. Overall,

636
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 9: one more thing, one more thing. This is just drives

637
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 9: me up the wall. A Seahawks fan actually told me this.

638
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 9: He literally told me that he believes that Rock Party

639
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 9: is better than Prime Russell Wilson. I almost like jumped

640
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 9: out of a window. I was like, what are you

641
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,000
Speaker 9: talking about. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Okay,

642
00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 9: I feel better now, all right, all right, I do

643
00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,200
Speaker 9: think that Prime Russell Wilson. It was a short period

644
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 9: of time, but was was really good.

645
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 3: I just think they're different there.

646
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: They're they're smaller quarterbacks that are that that are able

647
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 2: to move. They both have some moxie to them. But

648
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: Russ did play at a really high level at at

649
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 2: one point. I think Perdy's got still has to get there.

650
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 2: Not that Perty hasn't played to that level, but Russ

651
00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: was on a really really high level for about the year.

652
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Speaker 8: Two.

653
00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 3: Quick question for Dan and Ryan.

654
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Speaker 4: If Purdy was on those leads in the boom teams

655
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Speaker 4: in Seattle, do they.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, you know things though? Nog I do

657
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Speaker 3: I do?

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Speaker 8: Right?

659
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Speaker 3: You don't think that? No?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, yes I did.

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Speaker 8: I do.

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's any guarantee that the Seahawks win

664
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Speaker 2: this weekend. I do find it interesting, though, not to

665
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Speaker 2: make this an all a San Francisco thing, but do

666
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Speaker 2: you guys pay any mind to when we talk about

667
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: playoff schedule because they're the forty nine ers and Kyle Shanahan,

668
00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 2: you know, up in arms that they had to play

669
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Speaker 2: Sunday in Philadelphia and now they got to go play

670
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Speaker 2: Saturday in Seattle, and the Seahawks having two weeks off

671
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Speaker 2: because of the bye. I just I feel like this

672
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 2: is much ado about nothing, and people are saying, oh,

673
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:46,760
Speaker 2: the Rams and Bears played on on Saturday, so they

674
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Speaker 2: should they should have played on Sunday, or they should

675
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Speaker 2: also play on Saturday and give the forty nine ers

676
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Speaker 2: an extra day of rest.

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Speaker 3: Maybe that's why the forty nine ers are a six seed, right.

678
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Speaker 2: Like, there's there's a portion to that, Like they it

679
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 2: shouldn't be every single advantage and by the way, the

680
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 2: Seahawks by could end up working against them. It could

681
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 2: be a Russ situation where the forty nine Ers at

682
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Speaker 2: least now have a rhythm because their season has continued.

683
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Speaker 2: There's that portion of it. I just feel like when

684
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Speaker 2: we talked about how the playoff schedule is, boy, they

685
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 2: really made a big deal about it about putting the

686
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Speaker 2: times at the end of the game last night. Yeah,

687
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 2: because each network wanted their own thing. To me, it's

688
00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 2: kind of ridiculous and absurd. But I just feel that

689
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Speaker 2: they're making more of a bigger deal out of it

690
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: for San Francisco than maybe it should be. I mean,

691
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: it's a playoff game.

692
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Speaker 5: I think Tony Dungee was the one who had an

693
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Speaker 5: issue with it. A former head coach says it's unfair,

694
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Speaker 5: and it's like there should be a punitive aspect to it.

695
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 5: If you do enter the playoffs as a succeed you

696
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 5: shouldn't get any help. And it's kind of like saying, yeah,

697
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 5: the food in prison is awful, Yeah, how about the

698
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 5: stan out of prison? Make better choices.

699
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Speaker 3: The prison pbday. You don't want that, you want that?

700
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Speaker 8: I think the.

701
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Speaker 3: It's not peanut butter.

702
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Speaker 2: The thing about the Niners and Seahawks as well, is

703
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Speaker 2: in the week seventeen matchups that they had, Seattle was

704
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Speaker 2: in Carolina. The forty nine ers were home on Sunday

705
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: night to the Bears, the NFL said, oh, for the

706
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Speaker 2: division and the number one seed, you're gonna play on

707
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 2: Saturday night, And so the forty nine ers were kind

708
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Speaker 2: of like, well, we just played on Sunday night, Now

709
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,160
Speaker 2: we got to play on Saturday night. The Seahawks were

710
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Speaker 2: in Charlotte, had to fly in across the entire country

711
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Speaker 2: and then get ready for a road game and take

712
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Speaker 2: so like so they haven't been treated necessarily as fair.

713
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Speaker 2: And I actually think the Seahawks got more of the

714
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Speaker 2: short end of the stick in Week eighteen because of

715
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Speaker 2: their travel than they had to travel again to San

716
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Speaker 2: Francisco with a day less than they would have prepared.

717
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Speaker 2: But it wasn't a huge deal. Nobody made a big

718
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Speaker 2: deal about it. But I feel that we are making

719
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Speaker 2: a big deal out of the forty nine ers having

720
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Speaker 2: to have the short weekend without George Kittle stinks.

721
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Speaker 3: But does anybody think that the forty nine.

722
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Speaker 2: Ers aren't going to compete and play well in that

723
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Speaker 2: game like just their division rivals.

724
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Speaker 3: It shouldn't matter.

725
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Speaker 4: It must do about Nutt and Dan at this point,

726
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 4: whatever the cards have been dealt to, you have to

727
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 4: you got you. You have to play the game, and

728
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Speaker 4: you have to play that game at at a fever

729
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Speaker 4: pitch regardless of whoever it is. And so for the

730
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Speaker 4: forty nine ers, obviously they've been injured and they would

731
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Speaker 4: like to be a little bit more healthy.

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Speaker 3: But again, don't be a six seed.

733
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Speaker 2: Now you're not like the eight with the perfect bracket,

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Speaker 2: but still pretty darn good to lead all hosts?

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Speaker 3: Man, how did they get all eight right?

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Speaker 6: That?

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Speaker 4: Just I guess the fans got a little say so there,

755
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Speaker 4: Dan can have a little say so.

756
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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna Manzi Blanjos is gonna have some details

757
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Speaker 2: coming up in about twelve minutes or so. I do

758
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Speaker 2: want to welcome in our NFL insider, Adam Kaplan, as

759
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Speaker 2: we have the huge breaking news story that Mike Tomlin

760
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Speaker 2: is stepping down after nineteen seasons as the Steelers head coach. Adam,

761
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Speaker 2: I want to welcome you in, but I'm curious. Did

762
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Speaker 2: you hear how the Baltimore Ravens found out about Mike

763
00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 2: Tomlin stepping there? Hold on, hold on, we're gonna play it.

764
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Speaker 2: We're gonna play it here. This was I believe Mike

765
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Speaker 2: Preston notify buying Steve Bashatti, the Ravens owner, about the

766
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Speaker 2: breaking news that was happening. Is the Ravens were explaining

767
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Speaker 2: why John Harbaugh's no longer their head coach.

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Speaker 3: Check this out.

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Speaker 8: Mike Tomlins stepped down at Pittsburgh. He did?

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Speaker 3: Is it official?

771
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Speaker 8: That's what I keep hearing. So is he a candidate here.

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Speaker 3: Holy couldn't that be awesome? Only if John takes the

773
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Speaker 3: Pittsburgh job.

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Speaker 2: That is some great stuff from the Ravens owner, especially

775
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Speaker 2: off the cuff. But I'm curious because he goes is

776
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,719
Speaker 2: it official? I wonder if he heard rumblings? When did

777
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 2: you hear rumblings that Tomlin was ready to call it

778
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 2: quits after nineteen seis Well, actually.

779
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Speaker 8: It's been two years. To be honest with you, it's

780
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:47,440
Speaker 8: not a secret in coding. It's why Dan the previous

781
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 8: two years he was asked about it, are you stepping down?

782
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 8: Or you know, do you want to coach anymore? Because

783
00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 8: of those of us who covered the league knew that

784
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:56,279
Speaker 8: this was on his mind, and then he bristled one

785
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,759
Speaker 8: year he didn't want to. He actually walked down with

786
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Speaker 8: press conference. So yeah, I'm not surprised at all, to

787
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Speaker 8: be honest with you. In fact, I'm glad he did

788
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:05,000
Speaker 8: this now because you've got free agency coming up, and

789
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 8: the player, the free agents have to know that the

790
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:08,319
Speaker 8: head coach is going to be in the big one

791
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 8: would be obviously Aaron Rodgers. So this obviously win pack

792
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:13,839
Speaker 8: Aaron Rodgers decision. And everything I've been told is they

793
00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:17,920
Speaker 8: wanted him back, specifically Tomlin. Of course they have a

794
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 8: very interesting relationship. They two are very fond of each other.

795
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 8: So yeah, it's it's Dan. It's really been an incredible

796
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,720
Speaker 8: last two weeks of this stuff. It's really been lots

797
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 8: of twists and turns. No, I don't think there'll be

798
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Speaker 8: more than nine that there are now. I'm not expecting

799
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Speaker 8: anything else.

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Speaker 2: I think that we're finally done. Adam Kaplan's sports grid

801
00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 2: Inside the Birds podcast Get him on next at Kaplan NFL.

802
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Speaker 2: You mentioned Rodgers. Doesn't just make Aaron Rodgers decision that

803
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: much easier, I mean liked I.

804
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Speaker 8: Would think so at forty two. Sure, Look, he's loved

805
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,000
Speaker 8: his time there. He and Tomlin have been fans of

806
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 8: each other now if they've worked together. Fortunately didn't win

807
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Speaker 8: a playoff game. Toman ends his Pittsburgh tenure not winning

808
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 8: a playoff game over nine seasons, which is hard to believe,

809
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,280
Speaker 8: by the way, but they've never fired a head coaches.

810
00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 8: I know a lot of the fans wanted Tomlin out,

811
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Speaker 8: but Mike, Mike decided to walk away. I'd love to

812
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 8: know what the reasons were. I mean, I know when

813
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,640
Speaker 8: Sean Payton did it. Why did he needed he needed

814
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:15,520
Speaker 8: a mental break, he wanted a year off, and he

815
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Speaker 8: wanted to come back. That was obvious. Uh. And then

816
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 8: you know the other one, by the way, Dan, such

817
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 8: I was thought of this exactly as soon as it happened,

818
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 8: and whether Tomin will come back and coach again. So

819
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 8: I remember it was I'm not just the only one

820
00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 8: to put it out there that the Panthers had sincere

821
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 8: interest in hiring Bill Kaher that this is many years ago.

822
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Speaker 8: It might have been ye when they hired Ron Rivera,

823
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Speaker 8: I don't remember. Might have been twenty eleven when they

824
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 8: hired Ron Rivera, I don't remember. But I just remember,

825
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 8: like you know, because Bill had his house in Charlotte

826
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Speaker 8: or he lived there or still lives there, and we

827
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Speaker 8: thought this is a slam dug and a lot of

828
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Speaker 8: coach a lot of his coaches told me this and that, oh, yeah,

829
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Speaker 8: if it happens, he's got he's going to take that job,

830
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 8: so you know, be around his family and all that.

831
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 8: But it's not not to But yeah, it's uh, Dan,

832
00:37:57,680 --> 00:38:00,879
Speaker 8: it's been pretty interesting to see, uh kind of how

833
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 8: this has gone down here and who fills these these

834
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Speaker 8: jobs here within the Steelers one obviously because it this

835
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Speaker 8: is kind of historic.

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Speaker 4: And Adam I talked about it. That's that's I want.

837
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Speaker 4: It's a two part question. The first part of it

838
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Speaker 4: is just the clarity surrounding Mike Tomlin. Right, so he

839
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Speaker 4: steps down and people automatically think he can go coach

840
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 4: somewhere else, But he's on the contract with Pittsburgh, so

841
00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 4: we have to trade for him, they would have to say,

842
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 4: and I don't.

843
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 8: I got the the carry. I got the distinct feeling

844
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Speaker 8: from people I've spoken with that I know Mike is

845
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 8: we don't know if we'll ever talk. You know, if

846
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:35,759
Speaker 8: I know that, you know, there'll be networks interested in him.

847
00:38:35,760 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 8: I'd love to hear him talk about why he walked

848
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 8: away Sean Sean Payton never really gave the the you know,

849
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Speaker 8: there was speculation, which I think was real, that he

850
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 8: knew he couldn't win with a quarterback situation in New

851
00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 8: Orleans as it stood then mm hmm, that that was

852
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Speaker 8: one reason why, or you know, he needed a mental break,

853
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 8: which is perfectly understandable. But with Tomlin, I'm very curious

854
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 8: about what his mindset was. Why now not, Look, here's

855
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,439
Speaker 8: here's what another thing I thought of what they would

856
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 8: have made a run to the championship game. I've lost

857
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 8: and you have unfinished unfinished business, would have come back,

858
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 8: you know, you'd have known that.

859
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we knew they weren't even close to that,

860
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 2: so I never had to at least face that.

861
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly right.

862
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 2: I mean Adam Kaplan joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

863
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Speaker 2: You talked about Bill Kauer and the Panthers job and

864
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 2: that flirting sort of deal. What I find interesting is

865
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Speaker 2: we talked about parallels is in carried Well.

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Speaker 8: He denied that. He actually kind of denied that. Yeah,

867
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Speaker 8: it was just the Panther. There are people with the

868
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Speaker 8: Panthers who wanted it to happen.

869
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Speaker 2: But anyway, Yeah, I know there's uh, there's gonna be

870
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Speaker 2: some breaking news in your backyard as well. I just

871
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Speaker 2: quick one on the on the Steelers. Brian Flores is

872
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 2: a name Tomlin when he was hired by the Steelers

873
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: was an assistant with Minnesota. When he was brought over

874
00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 2: his Flora's a top candidate in Pittsburgh.

875
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:47,400
Speaker 8: I would expect them to have sincere interest because you know,

876
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 8: he's he's been there before, he knows, he knows the

877
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 8: building and let me tell you something. This is one

878
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,120
Speaker 8: thing I actually forgot. I wanted to make sure I

879
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 8: talked about before we got out of here. If you

880
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,920
Speaker 8: want to be the head coach of the Pittsburgh Steelers,

881
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 8: it starts with the running game. If you're a guy that,

882
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,239
Speaker 8: if your guy, like if you're Cliff Kingsbury, I'd be

883
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,400
Speaker 8: shocked if he would he would want to. I just

884
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 8: don't see them being interested in a guy like that.

885
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 8: It's just him and dan Quinn totally that. The firing

886
00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 8: last week was totally from dan Quinn. Had nothing to

887
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 8: do with anyone else. For nobody, dan Quinn and Cliff

888
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:22,799
Speaker 8: Kingsbury did not see eye. Cliff did a very good job,

889
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 8: by the way. But you have to want to run

890
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,640
Speaker 8: the football in Pittsburgh. That's every coach I've ever spoke with.

891
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 8: Her front office member says they may not agree on everything,

892
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 8: but they totally agree. It starts with the run and

893
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 8: and and you win. You run the ball and you win.

894
00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 8: With defense of Pittsburgh, you could you could not agree

895
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 8: with it. But that's the truth.

896
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 2: We told you, Adam, that something's going on in your backyard.

897
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 2: Breaking news. Moncey Blagos quickly at the news desk. What

898
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: do you got, Manci?

899
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 7: Breaking news from Fox Sports, multiple sources. The Eagles have

900
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 7: informed offensive coordinator Kevin Patulo that they're making a change

901
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 7: at the position.

902
00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 8: They just announced it.

903
00:40:56,520 --> 00:41:00,359
Speaker 3: Actually all right, oh wow, look at that something. What's

904
00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:01,279
Speaker 3: going to happen there? For sure?

905
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,320
Speaker 8: A statement? You want the statement? A statement from Nick Sirianni.

906
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 8: I've decided to make a change of offensive coordinator. The

907
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 8: rest of the quote. I met with Kevin today discussed

908
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 8: a difficult decision, as he is a great coach, who

909
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 8: is who has my utmost respect. He's been integraled to

910
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 8: the team's success over the last five years, not only

911
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 8: to the on field product, but behind the scenes is

912
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 8: a valuant leader for the players in an organization. I've

913
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,320
Speaker 8: no doubt he will continue to have a successful coaching career. Ultimately,

914
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 8: when we fall suit of our goals, that responsiblely lots

915
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 8: of my shoulders. Yeah, so basically, so you know here

916
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 8: in this particular one Sirianni, one of his best friends

917
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 8: is Kevin Patouolo. He brought him over from Indy with him.

918
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 8: He was actually on his flight when Nick had his

919
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 8: first visit after he became the head coach Batula was

920
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,839
Speaker 8: on his flight. That's how close they were. So I'm

921
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,239
Speaker 8: sure it was hard for him. But this is the

922
00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 8: problem carrying this with this particular team is in this

923
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 8: offensive situation, is that it's it's Nick Sirianni's scheme that

924
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 8: now he's fired two out of the last three coordinators

925
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 8: that he's had, and it's his scheme that they have

926
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 8: to coach really bad coaching. Yeah, it is, yeah, not good.

927
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,439
Speaker 3: I didn't know that, Adam, So it's actually his, it's

928
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:07,879
Speaker 3: his deal.

929
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 8: But schemes yep, yep. And by the way, with Mike Tomlin, uh,

930
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 8: you know, they've run his scheme. Terry Lawson has run it. Yeah,

931
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 8: and it came on a tremendous fire. Their secondary head

932
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 8: also which I'm told communication problems. See, this is the guys,

933
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 8: This is the untold situation of why teams fail is

934
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,879
Speaker 8: when coach head coaches force their assistants to run their

935
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 8: scheme and when it's not working, what's what it's not

936
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 8: the defense quarter scheme or in this case, the offensive

937
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 8: coordinator scheme. What can he do? So what Philly's got

938
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,439
Speaker 8: to do is they got to junk this scheme. Everyone.

939
00:42:39,440 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 8: I've talked to his great as their tape tells me,

940
00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 8: it's bad offensive scheme, one of the worst they've seen.

941
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 8: What Nick has got to give is a new coordinator autonomy,

942
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 8: not worry about Jalen Hurts having his eleventh offensive coordinator

943
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 8: and his playing career.

944
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 3: So we're Stiking and Kellen Moore doing some of their

945
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 3: own things. Why did it? Why did it work with it?

946
00:42:55,000 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 8: So what happened was with Stike and dan Is Stikeen

947
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 8: severely lowered what they asked Jalen Hurts are doing twenty two.

948
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,319
Speaker 8: And remember they had never there was no one able

949
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 8: to prepare for the A. J. Brown situation because Brown

950
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 8: has just been traded there and it became a downfield

951
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 8: passing offense with it started kind of with a run though,

952
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 8: and it was a deep passing game. They figured it out,

953
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 8: and their past games significantly regress since twenty two.

954
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 4: Yeah, they were taking it was basic on a run

955
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 4: game and taking those deep shots. But he can never

956
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:23,719
Speaker 4: make those layered those layered.

957
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 8: The thrower not at all.

958
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,239
Speaker 3: Let's talk about the final four right now.

959
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 4: We got in the final four in both divisions and

960
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 4: obviously a lot of intriguing games. The one that I'm

961
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:37,200
Speaker 4: looking at right now. Obviously, well there's two. I'm really

962
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 4: invested in that forty nine Ers Seahawk game. I know

963
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,839
Speaker 4: forty nine Ers are banged up. Seahawks in this game,

964
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 4: I know, I just can't. I mean, they should get

965
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 4: blown out. Go ahead, Adam, Ahead, Dan, Syhawks, listen.

966
00:43:50,719 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 8: I don't know how I mean great now, now you

967
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 8: know Carrie's a former player. Great coaching sometimes get overcomes.

968
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 3: One hundred in the playoffs, for sure.

969
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,840
Speaker 8: But you take Kittle out of there, Okay, who's gonna

970
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:03,160
Speaker 8: go to the Hall of Fame. And I give Trent

971
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 8: Williams credit for playing that game, but I mean it

972
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 8: keeps keeping guys hoping. I understand that. But this defense,

973
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 8: no offense, Seattle's defense is better than the Eagles.

974
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 3: You had to see Dan's face, Adam as.

975
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 8: I mean, I'm just telling, and I rarely predicted blowout.

976
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 8: I mean, you remember what happened in two weeks ago

977
00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 8: in Saint Clara. Yeah, they scored three points the Niners.

978
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 2: I also remember what happened in week one, and I said, like,

979
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 2: the only thing the not having George Kittle would be

980
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: like having George Kittle and losing him in a game,

981
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: which is what happened in Week one in Seattle. In

982
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,480
Speaker 2: the game, as the forty nine Ers ended up winning,

983
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 2: I was surprised to see it was six starters.

984
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,319
Speaker 8: Since yeah, yeah, true.

985
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,960
Speaker 2: True, but still division game. I think you ever know? Yeah,

986
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 2: and Adam moment, I'm sorry, Dan, Adam. The one more

987
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 2: thing that that Rams and Bears game. I knew obviously,

988
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,920
Speaker 2: you know. I'm a I'm a Ram guy. I've been

989
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,400
Speaker 2: an advocate of advocate of them. But playing that game

990
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 2: on a Sunday night in Chicago, it's gonna be tough.

991
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 4: It's gonna the weather's going to be an issue. I'm

992
00:45:00,080 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 4: I'm excited to see that game too. Obviously the Bears

993
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 4: have picked up some steam here and and you know

994
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 4: when they trail they play their best. But it's gonna

995
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,799
Speaker 4: be a hard game for the Bears. But also things

996
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 4: is gonna be a hard game for the Rams with

997
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 4: that weather situation.

998
00:45:11,920 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, Now, it's going to be incredibly cold. Yes, and

999
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:22,279
Speaker 8: remember this game is being played at night. Yes, and

1000
00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 8: the weather right now should be it might actually get

1001
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 8: to single digits.

1002
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: Yep.

1003
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,480
Speaker 8: Now we'll see what the win is like. Matthew Stafford

1004
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,000
Speaker 8: is not Remember he's playing a lot of his games

1005
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 8: indoors because being with the Lions and other Rams in

1006
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 8: terms of being home and so forth, it won't be easy.

1007
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 8: But the Rams are shown they could win the road

1008
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:41,040
Speaker 8: Warriors that that was as a good game that they

1009
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,799
Speaker 8: had last week. They were able to close well after

1010
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:45,759
Speaker 8: blowing the lead. But the bigger question for Chicago is

1011
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 8: why were they so bad for three quarters? And can

1012
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,920
Speaker 8: can they not get behind? Because the Rams are explosive

1013
00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 8: and I'll tell you the Bears secondary they get it's bad.

1014
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,840
Speaker 8: I mean, it's really interesting. They forced the most turnovers

1015
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 8: m hm, but they're top five team giving up explosive plays.

1016
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 8: It's very odd to me. I don't quite care carry

1017
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 8: out a solution. You talked about it yesterday. What the

1018
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:08,360
Speaker 8: Bears need to do.

1019
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, the Bears like they come out and they script plays,

1020
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 4: and they script plays for not not much success with

1021
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 4: the Ben Johnson team. Like if you look at their

1022
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:17,879
Speaker 4: opening drives, I think in the last I think their

1023
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 4: last nine opening drives they've had, they they've gone through

1024
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:22,920
Speaker 4: and out, so they haven't been successful script in plays.

1025
00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 4: I think for them to have success early on and

1026
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 4: not put themselves behind the eight ball is to come

1027
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 4: out and do a little up tempo early. Caleb Williams

1028
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,800
Speaker 4: plays well off schedule, and he plays well when defenses

1029
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:34,520
Speaker 4: have to show their hand, and I think that will

1030
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 4: give them a little bit of an advantage. That was

1031
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,160
Speaker 4: just kind of part of my thinking when I looked

1032
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 4: at them and why they why they struggled, Yeah, and they.

1033
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 8: I would say, yeah, they couldn't get kill them into

1034
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 8: rhythm and they look so bad offensively for three quarters.

1035
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 8: It was just stunning to me that they won up

1036
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,399
Speaker 8: score twenty five points. I yeah, it's so to pick

1037
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:52,319
Speaker 8: the Packers, I felt. I was like, man, I thought

1038
00:46:52,360 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 8: I had that one. I didn't. I didn't. I didn't

1039
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:55,520
Speaker 8: pick well in Week one.

1040
00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 6: All.

1041
00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 8: I'm usually really good in the playoffs. I had a

1042
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 8: very bad Week one except for the totals. Actually was

1043
00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:03,480
Speaker 8: three one in total picks. But that's overrunner for people

1044
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:07,720
Speaker 8: don't know. But terrible only got one of the sides, right, Oh, well.

1045
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 3: Last one before we let you go.

1046
00:47:09,560 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 2: And it is about coaching, and it is about actually

1047
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 2: a guy that we started to talk about, not Mike Tomlin,

1048
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 2: but when Steve Bushatti mentioned John Harbaugh and the possible

1049
00:47:16,480 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 2: flip they could do Harbaugh did interview with the Falcons.

1050
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 2: He told Jay Glazer there were going to be three

1051
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:22,959
Speaker 2: or four teams. Yeah, obviously Atlanta is one of those

1052
00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 2: three or four. Are we looking at what Giants as

1053
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,839
Speaker 2: another Miami where for.

1054
00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 8: Sure the Miami one. I was joking with so on

1055
00:47:31,880 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 8: other than whether why would you take that interview? It's

1056
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,680
Speaker 8: see Johnson is John john is older. You know, he's

1057
00:47:38,719 --> 00:47:41,879
Speaker 8: in his sixties. Why would you interview with a team

1058
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 8: where you really it's a rebuild. They have a very

1059
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 8: bad roster. That's the way that that teams see it.

1060
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 8: That I've talked to about the Dolphins roster and in situation,

1061
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 8: Steph were the only thing we'll say good Steve ross

1062
00:47:53,160 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 8: is in terms of football is willing to spend money.

1063
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 8: You love that about him. He just they didn't want

1064
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:00,880
Speaker 8: a playoff game and sick on twenty five years and

1065
00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 8: there's a reason for it. Made a lot of mistakes,

1066
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:08,959
Speaker 8: but uh, to me it the honestly the Atlanta job

1067
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,319
Speaker 8: is that they actually have a good roster. And oh,

1068
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:12,839
Speaker 8: I need even mention this before I get out of here.

1069
00:48:13,640 --> 00:48:15,600
Speaker 8: Matt Ryan actually clarify he actual I don't want to

1070
00:48:15,600 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 8: see he was trying to contract out what what Arthur

1071
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 8: Blank said, but he actually said that he's gonna let

1072
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 8: the general manager make the decisions, which is not what

1073
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 8: Arthur Blank said last week. So that's actually good that

1074
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 8: because that'll help the Falcons rebuild this thing. Is that

1075
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 8: you know, because Arthur Blank said Matt would have control

1076
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 8: of the roster and everyone would report to him, well

1077
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 8: their report to him, but Matt's not gonna make the

1078
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:41,720
Speaker 8: football decisions. I thought that was really interesting, and Matt's

1079
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 8: in his press conference today, so that that's one little

1080
00:48:46,280 --> 00:48:47,840
Speaker 8: care clarification.

1081
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 2: And maybe Matt Ryan's behind the new uniforms that they're

1082
00:48:49,880 --> 00:48:52,680
Speaker 2: going to get an April out of the Yeah, we

1083
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:53,600
Speaker 2: appreciate the time.

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