WEBVTT - Cowboys Break: Time for Change?

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<v Speaker 1>The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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<v Speaker 1>and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys, Let's go. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you ready for a break? Yes? Are you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>a break? Absolutely? Ready for a break? Yeah? And so

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<v Speaker 1>much for that. It's time for The Break on Dallas

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and

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<v Speaker 1>bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, January twenty third,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, Season eighteen, Episode number one twelve. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the latest edition of The Break. We're Alive from

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<v Speaker 1>the s WBC Mortgage Studios at the Star, presenter by

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<v Speaker 1>Milli like the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys and Man,

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<v Speaker 1>today we gotta do what we've done before. This is

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<v Speaker 1>not new for US Cowboys. Season ends last night. They

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<v Speaker 1>lose to the San Francisco forty nine. There's nineteen to twelve,

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<v Speaker 1>eliminating them from the playoffs at the divisional round. And

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<v Speaker 1>today we'll tell you what we think went right and

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<v Speaker 1>wrong for this team and maybe get a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>probably more tomorrow get into what this really means, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's so many offshoots from this game. When

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<v Speaker 1>you start thinking about what this means for this franchise

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<v Speaker 1>and what this means for this team and all the

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<v Speaker 1>players that are on this team. But let's start first.

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<v Speaker 1>There are so many things that happened in that game.

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<v Speaker 1>If you could kind of crystallize it into kind of

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<v Speaker 1>one thing, what is the enduring memory you'll have years

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<v Speaker 1>from now about the game against the forty nine Ers

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<v Speaker 1>in the Divisional round of playoffs in twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 1>Nick forty nine ers were a really good team. The

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<v Speaker 1>Cowboys on this day were a pretty good team. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean I thought their defense was not as good as

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<v Speaker 1>though as the forty nine ers. I think their offense

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<v Speaker 1>obviously wasn't as good as the fortin ers, and their

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<v Speaker 1>special teams wasn't either, So I mean I thought they

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<v Speaker 1>was close in all three and that's why the game

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<v Speaker 1>was close at the end of the day. I think

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<v Speaker 1>the forty nine just had more playmakers that made more plays,

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<v Speaker 1>had more weapons amber go ahead. I think it was

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<v Speaker 1>a game of missed opportunities. I really do. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like though that there were some. You know, we went

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<v Speaker 1>into this game talking about all the things that you

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<v Speaker 1>were going to have to deal with, talking to coaches,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you attack, how do you do this? How

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<v Speaker 1>do you do that? You know? It really it really

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<v Speaker 1>kind of comes down to, you know, their ability to

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<v Speaker 1>make plays and then your ability not to in some ways.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, whether it's you get a you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>dropped interceptions, or you don't quite protect well enough for

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<v Speaker 1>you know, you you know, you had an opportunity to

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<v Speaker 1>hit a guy and you know, instead you let the

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<v Speaker 1>play extend and it throws you into another whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>where there's defenders. You know, I just you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's not about playing the perfect game, but it's about

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<v Speaker 1>when the opportunities that you have to make plays, you

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<v Speaker 1>got to capitalize on those. I mean, I know, watching

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<v Speaker 1>going back and why in the tape of this game,

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<v Speaker 1>I was worried about Nick Bosa and how he could

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<v Speaker 1>affect the game. Nick Bosa affected you on three plays

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<v Speaker 1>in this game, you know, and they were back to

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<v Speaker 1>back plays down in the red zone where he was

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<v Speaker 1>able to get some pressure. The way he ables the

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<v Speaker 1>knife through and get a tackle. You know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're Noah Brown, You're trying to run there on

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<v Speaker 1>the goal line. Play looked like it had a chance,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, Tyron Smith gets beat inside and then

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<v Speaker 1>the next play, Tyron Smith gets beat on the spin move,

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<v Speaker 1>and then what happens again is you know then and Bosa,

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<v Speaker 1>you know beat you you know a third time on

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<v Speaker 1>the long pass to try and get it to Michael

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<v Speaker 1>Gallop where he's open, you know. So you know, that's

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<v Speaker 1>that's the difference of a lot of these games nowadays.

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<v Speaker 1>It's when these players that when you have an opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to make plays, you've got to make plays. I think,

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, if you said, heck, you're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give nineteen points six points off turnovers to the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine ers and you're only gonna give him nineteen points,

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<v Speaker 1>you kind of feel like you got a shot to

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<v Speaker 1>win this game. But you know, you didn't handle you

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<v Speaker 1>didn't handle their their defense a tackle really really really well,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know you had some plays where you just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of didn't didn't do what you needed to do

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<v Speaker 1>in order to keep drives going or to be able

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<v Speaker 1>to finish drives. My heart is being out of my

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<v Speaker 1>chest right now. I probably shouldn't have had coffee a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit ago because I'm like, right now, um, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>every game they've lost this season, we walked out of

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<v Speaker 1>those games saying they should have won that game. And

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<v Speaker 1>this was like another example of they should have won

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<v Speaker 1>that game. We get to San Francisco, we're at the

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<v Speaker 1>stadium pre game. Since we stepped onto the field, the

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<v Speaker 1>forty nine Ers were being nasty. And people may say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a playoff game, that's how you should be,

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<v Speaker 1>you know whatever, and it's fine, that's good, but be respectful.

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<v Speaker 1>And but if you're gonna be nasty, all right, let's

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<v Speaker 1>be free be nasty. The Cowboys offense didn't freaking show

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<v Speaker 1>up whatsoever. There was no fire in them. There was

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<v Speaker 1>no It did not feel like they were playing a

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<v Speaker 1>playoff game. There was zero energy. They couldn't connecting anything.

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<v Speaker 1>The only player that you had there was City Lamp

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<v Speaker 1>making plays. Everybody else on offense pretty much disappear, and

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<v Speaker 1>they weren't able to do anything. And what's more most

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<v Speaker 1>upsetting to me, it's knowing the fact that, seeing how

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<v Speaker 1>the defense played this game was within reach. We were

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<v Speaker 1>talking about here all week, Brian breaking down the forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine Ers offense, breaking down the forty nine Ers defense,

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<v Speaker 1>talking about how much talent they had, and knowing that

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<v Speaker 1>going into the game, the Cowboys defense was able to

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<v Speaker 1>do as much as they did contain them that much. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>the second half they started wearing down and all that,

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<v Speaker 1>but they kept the game to where you should have

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<v Speaker 1>freaking won that game and your offense should have done

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<v Speaker 1>so much more than what they did. And that's the

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<v Speaker 1>most upsetting to me, because if we walked out of

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<v Speaker 1>that game with that still losing, but they put up

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<v Speaker 1>a fight and it was a good one. At least

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<v Speaker 1>you feel a little bit better. You said, Okay, well

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't in their destined once again, but at least

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<v Speaker 1>they were out there lost with the fight, and there

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<v Speaker 1>was no freaking fight on the offensive side of the

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<v Speaker 1>ball at least. And that's just I can't believe it's over.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe we got to start this again after

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<v Speaker 1>feeling that we were so close and the Cowboys do

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<v Speaker 1>have a talented team, but it's just finding consistency has

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<v Speaker 1>been the whole problem this year. Yeah, for me, this

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<v Speaker 1>game came down to Dak Prescott and we heard Dak

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<v Speaker 1>talk weeks ago where he said, after a game where

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<v Speaker 1>he thrown interceptions, you know I'm going to fix this.

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<v Speaker 1>I guaranteed it's going to get fixed, and it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>get fixed yesterday. Like there were two interceptions, there was

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<v Speaker 1>a third that should have been and I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>like normally saying should have been, But in that circumstance

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<v Speaker 1>that was in the crunch time of the game, it

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<v Speaker 1>was you got three minutes left in this game, you're

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<v Speaker 1>right where you got them, right where you want them,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're down a touchdown, and I'd already meant, Nick

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<v Speaker 1>could already had the conversations. I thought at that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>this is where this is where Dak makes his name.

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<v Speaker 1>This is where you drive your team down three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>left to go, you score a touchdown and go for two,

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<v Speaker 1>like you're gonna go for two. And I'm the quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>if I'm the head coach, I'm giving him the ball

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm saying, get in the freaking end zone and

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna end this thing and we're gonna move on

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<v Speaker 1>to the next round. I think, And what ends up

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<v Speaker 1>and what ends up happening three and out and the

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<v Speaker 1>first of those three bad plays where they got zero

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<v Speaker 1>yards was what should have been an interception, And that,

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<v Speaker 1>to me is where I look at this, And Dak

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<v Speaker 1>said it after the game. He takes accountability but it

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<v Speaker 1>really is that game came down to your quarterback just

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<v Speaker 1>didn't play well enough. He put you behind the eight

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<v Speaker 1>ball way too often, and a defensive performance like that

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<v Speaker 1>got wasted by the quarterback not playing up to standard.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's talk about Dak. His numbers twenty three to thirty seven,

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two percent completion rate, two hundred and six yards passing,

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<v Speaker 1>one touchdown, two interceptions. He had another four rushes for

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two yards with a five point five average on

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<v Speaker 1>the ground. How much do you guys put this loss

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<v Speaker 1>on Dak? I mean he's the quarterback, so yeah. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he got all the praise when they when they won

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<v Speaker 1>last month and he played him He played amazing in

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<v Speaker 1>that game, so he did not play amazing in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of passes that he left on the table.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting all of it on him, but but

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he's the quarterback, so he gets it. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I think that they I think they lost

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<v Speaker 1>the game on the extra point. Be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>when they missed the extra point, I think that lost

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<v Speaker 1>the game for them in a lot of ways. Explain

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<v Speaker 1>that they lost four points on that and they lost

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<v Speaker 1>the running back for the season and may and who

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<v Speaker 1>knows after that, Um, if he makes that extra point,

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<v Speaker 1>they're up seven to six. It doesn't deflate the touchdown too,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's like here we go again. It's not just

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<v Speaker 1>one miss. It's like, oh my god, everyone's looking at

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<v Speaker 1>this guy. Is he mentally tough? The forty nine ers

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<v Speaker 1>are over there, you know, being classless and trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get in his head before and all that stuff. Um

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<v Speaker 1>that you know that was crap. But but but missing

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<v Speaker 1>that that was huge because then when they're driving down

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<v Speaker 1>at the at the you know, the two minute warning,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're on the thirty four yard line, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they kick a field goal there. He's kicked fifty yarders

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<v Speaker 1>all year long. If if you trust that he can

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<v Speaker 1>make that kick, and if you do make it, even

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<v Speaker 1>if you miss it, he don't lose your running back

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<v Speaker 1>for the season, because for the game because he gets

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<v Speaker 1>hurt on the next play. But I think him getting

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<v Speaker 1>hurt then now it's all on them. We can't kick.

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<v Speaker 1>We gotta we gotta score. We don't have anybody. We're

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<v Speaker 1>throwing wide now to CD, I think it changed their

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<v Speaker 1>whole plan. But it all started to me on that

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<v Speaker 1>extra point that was not only blocked, but that thing

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<v Speaker 1>was going to Oakland. So it's your I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>it's it wasn't about the block, because I know there

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<v Speaker 1>are probably some people up there like, well it was blocked.

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<v Speaker 1>That is that his fault? Is this a situation where

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<v Speaker 1>you think he would have missrepolled. I went and watched it.

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<v Speaker 1>I looked at it. The ball. The ball was not

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<v Speaker 1>end over end. The ball was almost sideways when it

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<v Speaker 1>was coming out of that office that guy, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was very low. And the guy that blocked it's like

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<v Speaker 1>I've never blocked the kick because he doesn't line up

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle like he was just putting his hands up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I mean that he would you know there was

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<v Speaker 1>a guy. But at the same time, even though you

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<v Speaker 1>know that thing wasn't gonna go in, but the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that it was blocked, I think that maybe mentally for

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<v Speaker 1>Bret Mohard, just to go through the game with quote

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<v Speaker 1>unquote that like, oh, well it was blocked, rather than

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<v Speaker 1>he missed the first one. You know, that at least

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<v Speaker 1>I think helped a little bit mentally to kind of

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<v Speaker 1>come back and be able to make whatever else he made.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it helped McCarthy though, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>McCarthy would have tried it, would try to field goal there,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh and and that doesn't I mean, that's four

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<v Speaker 1>points to me. He lost by seven. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>whole game could change a little bit, but I just

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<v Speaker 1>think psychologically that that affected so much. Brian. You put

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<v Speaker 1>this game one day. Yeah. I feel like though, there's

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<v Speaker 1>when you when you start for everything that we praised

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<v Speaker 1>him for on Tuesday morning, it reverted back to what

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<v Speaker 1>we what you were talking about earlier, and the ability

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<v Speaker 1>to see the field, the ability to to make the

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<v Speaker 1>quick decisions, the ability to you know, you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>playing six across and you're throwing the ball into that

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I mean, it just it seems like

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<v Speaker 1>things compound for him, you know, the and you want

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<v Speaker 1>to believe that like the harder, the tougher it is,

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<v Speaker 1>the more that he you know, we always talk about

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<v Speaker 1>him being bloodied and muddied and playing and having that

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<v Speaker 1>feel of the game. He had no feel in that

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<v Speaker 1>game yesterday. He had no feel. I don't think he

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<v Speaker 1>had confidence in some of the throws that he was

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<v Speaker 1>actually making. And it again, it doesn't help when you're

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<v Speaker 1>You're probably feeling like that nick boss to just destroy you,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, or you know, Tyler Smith's going to give

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<v Speaker 1>up a pressure, or you're gonna get holding, or something's

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen this game. But I think that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to me, you look at what the you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's some questions about this coordinator. I really really do.

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's some things. There's some you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think there's a question about the head coach. It's fourth

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<v Speaker 1>and fourth and five on the forty and you take

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<v Speaker 1>a delay of the game penalty. You know. I mean

0:12:27.760 --> 0:12:30.640
<v Speaker 1>to me, there's there's there's things that you gotta you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I always talk about knowing the condition of your team,

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<v Speaker 1>no one to try and make a spark. Maybe he

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<v Speaker 1>knew on fourth and five he couldn't go for it

0:12:37.280 --> 0:12:40.520
<v Speaker 1>on fourth down because his quarterback wasn't any good, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I a lot of this, A lot of

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<v Speaker 1>this does go on him because when again, when you

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<v Speaker 1>watch when you watch the plays, when you watch the throws,

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<v Speaker 1>when you watch what he's looking at, it's really it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of those things that kind of when Dak is bad,

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<v Speaker 1>it reminds you of all those things that we've seen

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<v Speaker 1>this season, and when he has those problems, I definitely

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<v Speaker 1>put the blame. Yeah, Dak was he just wasn't good

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<v Speaker 1>at all and there were a lot of questionable decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that he made that I don't think he should have

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<v Speaker 1>made in this game. And I get all the criticism

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<v Speaker 1>about Dak and at the same time, sitting here like

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard and I don't want to root against him.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so hard to because he's such a great guy.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a tough guy, and he's shown signs to be

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<v Speaker 1>that type of quarterback. But something has to change now.

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<v Speaker 1>We can't just keep being the same. And you mentioned

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<v Speaker 1>the coordinator. I wonder like under somebody else and we

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<v Speaker 1>don't and not get into offseason talk over here, but

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<v Speaker 1>it makes me we are Yeah, and it is hard

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<v Speaker 1>to draft a quarterback, Hi, It is very hard and

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<v Speaker 1>to find the right quarterback. But I do wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't with Kellen Moore and he had somebody else,

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<v Speaker 1>could that person coach Dak Prescott better to the where

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<v Speaker 1>now you you're making him be the type of quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>that you need to be. I don't think he's gone

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<v Speaker 1>through enough coaching or I haven't seen somebody else coach him,

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<v Speaker 1>other than when you had like John Kidnap come in

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<v Speaker 1>or um what was that that other the backup quarterback

0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:21.680
<v Speaker 1>that helped him out a lot of Sanchez Sanches, Mark

0:14:21.760 --> 0:14:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Sanchez when he So he's had those kind of little

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<v Speaker 1>sprinkles of help here and there through his career, but

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<v Speaker 1>not a legit like somebody else other than like Kellen

0:14:32.480 --> 0:14:36.040
<v Speaker 1>Moore build around him and all that. So it makes

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<v Speaker 1>me I still have that doubt rather than completely moved

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<v Speaker 1>because people just want to get rid of that. They

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<v Speaker 1>don't understand the salary cap. And you guys are right.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys are right. I mean, you guys are not

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<v Speaker 1>dancing around it, but we're gonna we're flirting around. You

0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:50.600
<v Speaker 1>guys are exactly right. It's time to move on. It's

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<v Speaker 1>time to move on from Kellen Moore. Another great guy.

0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, he walks by in the hall. You see him.

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<v Speaker 1>He seems like a really good, good guy. Doesn't talk

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<v Speaker 1>a whole lot. But this isn't working, and you can't

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<v Speaker 1>change your quarterback because of the salary cap of the

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<v Speaker 1>way it is. In fact, you might even give them

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<v Speaker 1>an extension to try to get more players in, which

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<v Speaker 1>is only going to make the problem worse, but whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't do that, but you can get a new

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator. Hey, Kellen, it's been great, Well, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>good about that. It's been good, and it's been great.

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<v Speaker 1>It's been it's been good, and it wasn't great yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>Some change has to be made and it's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>easier to change the coordinator than change that. And yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's just the way it is. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you're absolutely onto something there to me about this.

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<v Speaker 1>This was always going to be the evaluation of twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty two was going to be about the coaches, whether

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<v Speaker 1>Mike McCarthy after last year's disappointed I think Mike McCarthy

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<v Speaker 1>did a great job this year. And you know, now

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<v Speaker 1>you now you you know, you won a playoff game.

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<v Speaker 1>Now you get to that divisional round. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to score more than twelve points in

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<v Speaker 1>this football game. And you know, to me, that's where

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<v Speaker 1>there's so much inconsistency, you know, with the quarterback and

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<v Speaker 1>then with you know, and I'm not gonna sit there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I spent a long time in this lit

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna act like I know what every call

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<v Speaker 1>and every play is and stuff like that. But you

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<v Speaker 1>could see it when it's not working, you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>can see it. And I think there were some times

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<v Speaker 1>this year where Mike McCarthy had some frustrations with Kellen Moore,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, but give them credit for winning four out

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<v Speaker 1>of five games with Cooper Rush. Evidently Mike McCarthy went

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<v Speaker 1>up him and said, listen, you get it. Quinn. Yeah, Queen,

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<v Speaker 1>well but I know what you're saying. I mean, but

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<v Speaker 1>to me, that's where that's where you're that's where you're

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<v Speaker 1>at right now, though, is that you know you're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out You're not. To me, the quarterback was

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<v Speaker 1>going to be evaluated in twenty three. That's when the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback because maybe there was going to be a coaching

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<v Speaker 1>change and if Dak was able to be better with

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<v Speaker 1>different coaches, then you could say, Okay, this is this

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<v Speaker 1>is going to work if if you if you get

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<v Speaker 1>to twenty three and it's still the same Dak in

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<v Speaker 1>another press conference of talking about turnovers and it's never

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen again. But you say that every week.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, you say it every week. It's not gonna happen.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not Gonnapen. It's not Gonnapen. I'm gonna get better.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna get better. It doesn't get better, so something

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<v Speaker 1>has to change. Nick's right, it's not gonna be the

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback this year. It's likely going to be offensive staff

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<v Speaker 1>is what's going to change. And once offensive staff change,

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<v Speaker 1>now the evaluation comes on, Dak, do you give him

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<v Speaker 1>the extension? He signed a short contract. His contract isn't

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<v Speaker 1>one of these six year contracts that they gave Mahomes

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<v Speaker 1>or any somebody else that that was what he wanted,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly what he wanted. That's exactly so it might play

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<v Speaker 1>to your favor if you want to move on after

0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.760
<v Speaker 1>twenty three to three year deal. Right, it was a

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<v Speaker 1>four year deal. Yeah, but you in twenty twenty three,

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<v Speaker 1>they've already hit one of the escalators too. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they've triggered one of the extensions too, Like

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, how they do something where they say money,

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<v Speaker 1>but it pads it to the end. I don't honestly

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<v Speaker 1>know that thing's so complicated. But you're right, Brian, and

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<v Speaker 1>you get a new staff in here, because what happens

0:17:55.280 --> 0:17:57.479
<v Speaker 1>is is the new staff. They don't get a new

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback in the first round of the draft, but they

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<v Speaker 1>get one in the third or fourth round that they like,

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<v Speaker 1>and then all of a sudden, it's a little different.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, maybe you're in a situation too, Derek. I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not getting to talk nothing. No, no, I'm good,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm good. But but but the thing about it is,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean to me, I look at this and if

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<v Speaker 1>you if you if you happen to change offensive staff,

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<v Speaker 1>if you happen to change the coordinator, you change the

0:18:23.760 --> 0:18:26.360
<v Speaker 1>quarterback coach, you change the offensive line coach, you change

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<v Speaker 1>the receiver coach, which they did last year, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you change all those pieces. Now the evaluation really starts

0:18:33.320 --> 0:18:36.600
<v Speaker 1>because you know, these guys, these coaches probably aren't going anywhere.

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<v Speaker 1>This this quarterback, though, is in a situation now where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, okay, we're trying to help them, we're trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get players. We've changed the coaches. Now it's more

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<v Speaker 1>about the evaluation of you. And you know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>after eight years, you know, we've seen what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>in the league in this day and age. These teams

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<v Speaker 1>are willing to eat huge amounts of salary cap to

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<v Speaker 1>move on from a guy. It used to be like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I mean, hey, we you know, we gotta

0:19:02.119 --> 0:19:04.760
<v Speaker 1>keep this quarterback. We gotta no, no, no, no. Teams

0:19:04.800 --> 0:19:07.760
<v Speaker 1>are just saying move we'll move on, we'll draft a guy,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do you know, we'll do whatever we have to do.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'll say this, this is one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I've been seeing more and more creep up in the

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<v Speaker 1>last twenty four hours less than twenty four hours since

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<v Speaker 1>the game. People are comparing to what the Eagles were

0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.040
<v Speaker 1>able to do. The Eagles went to a Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>and completely flipped their roster, including quarterback and the head coach,

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<v Speaker 1>and now they're back in a championship game and poised

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<v Speaker 1>to go to another super Bowl. And it was because

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<v Speaker 1>they got to a point where they felt like, although

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<v Speaker 1>they had invested a lot in Wentz, they said, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not the guy that can get us there. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to move on. And And then the question becomes, is

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<v Speaker 1>there a point where you have to say, as much

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<v Speaker 1>as you might like Dak and you think Dak is

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<v Speaker 1>good enough, you have to say, well, he's not good

0:19:47.359 --> 0:19:49.080
<v Speaker 1>enough to get us where we want to go. And

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know that they're there yet, but that's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of things that fans are talking about right now,

0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:55.320
<v Speaker 1>where they're trying to see like at some point, well,

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<v Speaker 1>should they be having that kind of conversation that's not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna happen this year. Yeah, no, it absolutely can't happen.

0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.320
<v Speaker 1>They not this year. But my point is like, when

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<v Speaker 1>you get to that point of the of the contract

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<v Speaker 1>where you can make that decision, do you stick with

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<v Speaker 1>it because it's like it's safer to say, we got

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<v Speaker 1>a guy that we think is pretty good, yeah, or

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<v Speaker 1>do you are you willing to say, hey, we got

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<v Speaker 1>to go back to the drawing board to see if

0:20:15.680 --> 0:20:18.080
<v Speaker 1>we can get somebody better. That's why I think twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty three is if you do make the changes at

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<v Speaker 1>the at some some of these offensive staff positions, then

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<v Speaker 1>then it turns into Okay, we've made these changes. Now

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to see how the quarterback adapts to the changes.

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<v Speaker 1>And if he doesn't adapt to the changes, then you

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<v Speaker 1>get to that point where you're talking about where it's

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<v Speaker 1>the Carson Wentz or it's the Jared Golf So these

0:20:39.720 --> 0:20:42.240
<v Speaker 1>guys like that where you're like, we're just moving on.

0:20:42.560 --> 0:20:45.080
<v Speaker 1>We're not gonna We're not gonna sit here and continue

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<v Speaker 1>on and we're not going to give him a contract extension,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna look to draft or obtain a quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>from another team, a Derek Carr or somebody like that.

0:20:55.080 --> 0:20:57.800
<v Speaker 1>That's moving on. Yeah. If I if I was the

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<v Speaker 1>offensive coordinator, new offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore or whatever, what

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<v Speaker 1>I would do is I would to me one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest plays in series of the game was it

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<v Speaker 1>was nine to nine, huge pass the CD. Now you

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<v Speaker 1>flip the field down. Now you're cooking here. The game

0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:14.840
<v Speaker 1>is nine to nine. They haven't scored a touchdown on you.

0:21:15.320 --> 0:21:17.800
<v Speaker 1>Schultz drops a pass on the on the sideline from

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<v Speaker 1>hell him. Yeah, I mean he. I don't know what

0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.560
<v Speaker 1>was going on on the sideline with him, but um

0:21:22.720 --> 0:21:25.600
<v Speaker 1>he dropped that one second down run to Zeke third

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<v Speaker 1>and five. That's where I would say, all right, Dad,

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<v Speaker 1>walked me through this. Do you think that that you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna make this throw over Warner to CD? Do you

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<v Speaker 1>not see t Y Hilton? Do you not trust yourself

0:21:38.960 --> 0:21:41.399
<v Speaker 1>to throw it to t Y Hilton? Just walk me

0:21:41.480 --> 0:21:43.360
<v Speaker 1>through that, because if you don't think you can make

0:21:43.440 --> 0:21:46.159
<v Speaker 1>that throw, that's a problem. If you didn't see him,

0:21:46.200 --> 0:21:48.680
<v Speaker 1>it's also a problem. And you got to throw it

0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:53.040
<v Speaker 1>high enough that CD can stop. Warner's gonna run into him.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna get a PI and all that stuff. I

0:21:55.760 --> 0:21:58.240
<v Speaker 1>Warner is a damn good football player, and Micah Parson

0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.040
<v Speaker 1>was mad that he didn't get All Pro, but he

0:22:01.520 --> 0:22:04.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't as much of a difference maker as Warner wasn't. Then, yeah, well,

0:22:04.960 --> 0:22:07.760
<v Speaker 1>to your point, Nick, you're absolutely right, though, Dak has

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<v Speaker 1>to make that decision quicker because initially that route, if

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<v Speaker 1>he throws the ball out front, it's a it's a

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<v Speaker 1>running it's Warner's not gonna get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're saying it should have been to CD, but no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying if if, if, in fact, if he sees

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<v Speaker 1>he reads the middle of the field completely open and

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna by the way, but to be honest with you,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way that Warner's hips were chasing CD, he

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<v Speaker 1>should have thrown the ball to to t Y Hilton.

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<v Speaker 1>T Y Hilton because anytime they play that with the

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<v Speaker 1>Tampa two stuff, when you throw the ball opposite of

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<v Speaker 1>if the guy's hips are flipped to one side, throw

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<v Speaker 1>it to the other side. You know that guy's not

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<v Speaker 1>going to come back and make the play, they wouldn't

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<v Speaker 1>have been able to. Ty would have made a big play.

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<v Speaker 1>But if he throws the ball earlier, because there is

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<v Speaker 1>Warner's trying to get from the middle there to get him, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the ball goes out if he just immusiately says I

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<v Speaker 1>read this, I'm throwing it. Here we go. But how

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<v Speaker 1>many times have we seen throws to the middle of

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<v Speaker 1>the field where Dak is like throwing it, throwing it

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's intercepted. It's something happens. So now you're wondering, well,

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<v Speaker 1>is he comfortable even making that throw. He was comfortable.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like he was like waiting for CD to clear,

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<v Speaker 1>and Warner wasn't gonna let him clear, you know, he

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<v Speaker 1>just wasn't. So if you throw the ball sooner, Warner

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna not get there to make the play on

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<v Speaker 1>the ball. And so that I think all the problems

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<v Speaker 1>that Dak has had thrown to the middle of the

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<v Speaker 1>field this year, I think in his mind he's like

0:23:33.920 --> 0:23:36.080
<v Speaker 1>he was like, I'm not sure, I'm not sure. I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that was maybe a situation where you

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<v Speaker 1>don't see why Hilton was wide open? Yeah? Absolutely, you

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<v Speaker 1>don't expect when you get a matchup saying I got

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<v Speaker 1>my best wide receiver on a linebacker question, I got

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<v Speaker 1>him isolated. Yeah he should uncover. Like could that have

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<v Speaker 1>been a situation where Dak is expecting, Okay, he's gonna uncover,

0:23:54.359 --> 0:23:56.320
<v Speaker 1>like he's gonna uncovered well, and then he's like, oh,

0:23:56.359 --> 0:23:57.960
<v Speaker 1>he's not gonna cover. I'm gonna give him a shot.

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<v Speaker 1>He can throw it. You can see right off the

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<v Speaker 1>line that it's got a shot for a big play

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<v Speaker 1>if because when you watch Lamb he's running and he's

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<v Speaker 1>running like he's gonna expect in the ball. But like

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<v Speaker 1>I say, you gotta take it. You gotta almost throw it.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta throw it to the spot. You got to

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<v Speaker 1>throw it to the spot and let Lamb just go

0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>get it is what you do. Instead he's holding it

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<v Speaker 1>and now it's too late, and now Warner, who can

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<v Speaker 1>just run, is now in collision to make the play.

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<v Speaker 1>And so yeah, it's it's one of those things. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you there's there were so many plays that were

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<v Speaker 1>that felt negative this year. Dak throwing the ball to

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<v Speaker 1>CD in the middle of the field. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>that was in his mind about because there was there

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<v Speaker 1>was a past There was a couple of past plays

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<v Speaker 1>after the interception where they had spot routes and stuff

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>like that where he throws it past the sticks. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a first down. He didn't throw it because he's thinking, lime,

0:24:50.440 --> 0:24:52.879
<v Speaker 1>I don't see all these red jerseys where, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think it. I think it gets in his head.

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<v Speaker 1>I really really do on some of these throws. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>yesterday put up a gem of a game. I was

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<v Speaker 1>nick I told you I turn around until told you

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<v Speaker 1>on the plane. If I would have told you on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>cowboys would hold Deebo Samuel to a total of a

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<v Speaker 1>grand total of fifty six yards, and they would hold

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<v Speaker 1>McCaffrey to a grand total of fifty seven yards. What

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<v Speaker 1>would have been your response to what you thought was

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<v Speaker 1>going to happen in that game? I would have said,

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<v Speaker 1>how did how many of it? Kittle? Which actually is

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<v Speaker 1>the storyline of the game, right, I would have taken

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<v Speaker 1>in that and you know, and just like you would

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<v Speaker 1>have taken the nineteen points, you know, Yeah, I got

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<v Speaker 1>your blockchain for you. Yeah, yah, Yeah, we're we are

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<v Speaker 1>a team here, we work together. Yeah, I did you

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<v Speaker 1>read the other day? Yeah? He gave the good radio

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<v Speaker 1>voice too, did he good radio? Yeah? I bet? Does

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<v Speaker 1>that mean maybe you want to do it all the time?

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, he's probably better than this than me. I'm

0:28:25.440 --> 0:28:30.399
<v Speaker 1>sure you got that Sunday Sunday. Yeah, I know you're right.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have. I would have taken the fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty five yards from McCaffrey and Samuel and and

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<v Speaker 1>and take your shot there. Now, Kittle was was big,

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<v Speaker 1>but as what I wrote in my story, that the

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<v Speaker 1>difference is is that it's all of the it's all

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<v Speaker 1>of their their weapons, it's McCaffrey on this play. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the threat of Debo, It's the threat of Kittle. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean they when you have a wide receiver who actually

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<v Speaker 1>runs the ball, and a running back who actually catches

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<v Speaker 1>the ball, and a tight end who lines out at

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<v Speaker 1>receiver in a fullback who lines up wherever, you are

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<v Speaker 1>very very dangerous and and that's what they are. And

0:29:02.760 --> 0:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>you can have a quarterback like Brock Purty who has

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<v Speaker 1>no interest in running, but he can stand back there

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<v Speaker 1>and and make some plays. He didn't make any mistakes.

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<v Speaker 1>He wasn't great. He tried, he tried, but he tried

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<v Speaker 1>to make mistakes. Yeah, he tried. He was solid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he tried to make some mistakes. I know. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>look at see I don't look at it like Rock

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<v Speaker 1>Purty just beat you. And he was better than Dak.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he was. They have a better team, that's

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<v Speaker 1>been They have structured a team way better than the Cowboys,

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<v Speaker 1>and they went forth. They went forth this year. They

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<v Speaker 1>went for McCaffrey to put them over the top to

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<v Speaker 1>win this type of game, and the Cowboys didn't. The

0:29:41.240 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Cowboys traded their guy, seriously, they traded their guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>they Mark Cooper and they hoped that Gallup would be good,

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<v Speaker 1>and hope that that Noah Brown would be good and

0:29:52.440 --> 0:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>CD would take off, and and and it kind of did.

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<v Speaker 1>But I was going to ask you that about and again,

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<v Speaker 1>I totally agree with you about moving on from Amari Cooper.

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<v Speaker 1>But by moving on from Amurray Cooper, did you learn

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<v Speaker 1>that Ceedee Lamb was a number one receiver? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're if you're looking for a silver lining, you'd

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<v Speaker 1>strayed off? You did, but but you needed a Maury

0:30:16.320 --> 0:30:19.480
<v Speaker 1>Cooper because Michael Gallup was nothing this show. Let me

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<v Speaker 1>throw this out there. I've been thinking about this, Nick,

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<v Speaker 1>you and I had this part of this conversation a

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<v Speaker 1>little earlier. Dak Prescott has not been a turnover machine

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<v Speaker 1>like he has been this year throughout his career. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm starting I'm thinking like what could be the difference?

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<v Speaker 1>And it made me start thinking down the path of

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<v Speaker 1>and this is just conjecture on my part, but could

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<v Speaker 1>this have been a situation where by getting rid of

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<v Speaker 1>Amari Cooper, Essentially what they told Dak is it's on you.

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<v Speaker 1>You're not gonna have the same number of weapons. You're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to figure out how to make these tight

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<v Speaker 1>window throws because you're not gonna have guys who are

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna get wide open. You're gonna have to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to make it go. And it'll all go

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<v Speaker 1>because you make it go. And as a result of

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<v Speaker 1>and well, but listen, as a result of that, could

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<v Speaker 1>that have been a situation where that's how you get

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<v Speaker 1>to the interceptions. Dak's trying to do more than really

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he's even capable of doing. And we see something

0:31:13.800 --> 0:31:16.200
<v Speaker 1>very different from him than we've seen all these other

0:31:16.360 --> 0:31:19.040
<v Speaker 1>years because he's trying to do something that maybe it's

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:21.760
<v Speaker 1>just not in the wheelhouse of what he's best at.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I hope that's not the reasoning, because then

0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:27.600
<v Speaker 1>that would be really dumb on their part because you

0:31:27.640 --> 0:31:32.000
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't know your quarterback. He hasn't shown you necessarily that

0:31:32.120 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>he can be that type of guy to take it

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<v Speaker 1>all on his shoulders. There are times where he can

0:31:37.640 --> 0:31:42.520
<v Speaker 1>make magic happening, as we saw Monday night. Monday Night. Yes, yeah,

0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:46.959
<v Speaker 1>excellent game, his best game so far, But he hasn't

0:31:47.000 --> 0:31:50.320
<v Speaker 1>shown to be that guy consistently. So for you to

0:31:50.560 --> 0:31:53.360
<v Speaker 1>hope that he can be that guy and take away

0:31:53.400 --> 0:31:56.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean The one thing that we have talked about

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.560
<v Speaker 1>over his career is that he needs help. He needs

0:31:59.680 --> 0:32:04.200
<v Speaker 1>the weapons around him to make it work. He can't

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<v Speaker 1>be that Aaron Rodgers. He can be that Tom Brady

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<v Speaker 1>and his prime. So it's just not that and I

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<v Speaker 1>just I don't get the reasoning behind it. And you

0:32:18.440 --> 0:32:22.080
<v Speaker 1>want to talk about cite lamb. Oh, they wouldn't known

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.160
<v Speaker 1>he's a number one receiver or whatever, but that's what

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.240
<v Speaker 1>you drafted him for. You knew the talent that he

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<v Speaker 1>you knew what he could become. But you know Nick

0:32:32.200 --> 0:32:36.320
<v Speaker 1>mentioning like oh or I forgot who did just now?

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<v Speaker 1>But talking about hoping they can get better along the seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>You know him right off the bat. At the beginning

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<v Speaker 1>of the year, heading into training camp. We were at

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<v Speaker 1>training camp knowing all the little holes, all the issues

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<v Speaker 1>that they had, and still towards the end of the year,

0:32:52.440 --> 0:32:54.240
<v Speaker 1>of the end of the season, there were still the

0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.760
<v Speaker 1>things that were in question that we're in fully fixed.

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<v Speaker 1>They started that got ty and then he showed signs

0:33:00.640 --> 0:33:04.080
<v Speaker 1>to be working. But there's just so much that I

0:33:04.280 --> 0:33:08.320
<v Speaker 1>feel that could have been avoided somewhat, or that you

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:12.080
<v Speaker 1>could have prepared yourself or equipped yourself a lot better

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.960
<v Speaker 1>heading into the season, and I'm very impressed with what

0:33:16.160 --> 0:33:18.640
<v Speaker 1>dan Quinn was able to do. And it breaks my

0:33:18.800 --> 0:33:22.520
<v Speaker 1>heart knowing that ninety nine percent sure he's not gonna

0:33:22.560 --> 0:33:26.720
<v Speaker 1>be here this next year, but looking at when he

0:33:26.800 --> 0:33:31.440
<v Speaker 1>started losing players on defense, there's no way that I

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<v Speaker 1>thought that going into this game playoffs, Divisional round against

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:38.720
<v Speaker 1>the forty nine ers, No way I thought that the

0:33:38.800 --> 0:33:41.000
<v Speaker 1>defense was going to be able to play at this level,

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>knowing and looking at how the season ended just those

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:47.240
<v Speaker 1>last few weeks. Obviously they did well last week, but

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 1>just looking at the injuries, the issues that we were

0:33:49.440 --> 0:33:52.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about with dan Quinn up being able to fix

0:33:52.680 --> 0:33:55.520
<v Speaker 1>all these things in the secondary, cornerback, the issues that

0:33:55.600 --> 0:33:58.720
<v Speaker 1>were there. You're losing so many of your starters, and

0:33:59.480 --> 0:34:01.400
<v Speaker 1>in the space am of a few weeks he was

0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:04.160
<v Speaker 1>able to finally get things to click in again for you.

0:34:04.360 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 1>So it's just it's just a lot to dissect, but

0:34:08.239 --> 0:34:12.920
<v Speaker 1>you something's got to give. I guess the quicker quote

0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:18.440
<v Speaker 1>unquote faxes by Kellen, Yeah, well it's offensive coaches, and

0:34:18.800 --> 0:34:21.480
<v Speaker 1>maybe it's not. You know, we'll see who's under contract

0:34:21.560 --> 0:34:23.840
<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that too. I think that's some questions

0:34:23.880 --> 0:34:28.040
<v Speaker 1>that we have to ask ourselves. Ass Mike mccurthy, Like

0:34:28.120 --> 0:34:31.040
<v Speaker 1>I said earlier, I do believe there was some disconnect

0:34:31.120 --> 0:34:34.239
<v Speaker 1>between him and Kellen on some things and maybe Mike

0:34:34.320 --> 0:34:35.920
<v Speaker 1>had to say, listen, I want to do it this way,

0:34:36.280 --> 0:34:38.320
<v Speaker 1>and Kellen's like, oh, okay, well then we'll do it

0:34:38.400 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 1>and we'll see. So um, you know, I if Kellen

0:34:41.080 --> 0:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Moore gets an opportunity, that's one way of taking care

0:34:44.120 --> 0:34:46.759
<v Speaker 1>of that, you know. If if you know, but I

0:34:46.880 --> 0:34:48.680
<v Speaker 1>have a feeling there's going to be some coaches on

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:50.279
<v Speaker 1>the staff or they're going to tell him listen, if

0:34:50.280 --> 0:34:51.960
<v Speaker 1>you want to go hunt a job, go hunt a job,

0:34:52.520 --> 0:34:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, and we'll see if the offensive coaches, but

0:34:55.520 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>the major one would be Kellen Moore, that would be

0:34:58.480 --> 0:35:02.720
<v Speaker 1>the major one, because that's now the evaluation that you've determined,

0:35:02.760 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 1>like okay, we're going to move on from him. Now

0:35:05.120 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 1>we're going to change. It. Could very well be Brian Schottenheimer,

0:35:08.000 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>who they have here on staff as being the OC.

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I think to me personally, if they go outside or

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:15.840
<v Speaker 1>they go for an OC, they need to go for

0:35:15.880 --> 0:35:18.799
<v Speaker 1>the dan Quinn plan, go for somebody that's outside Dan

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>Quinn wasn't an insider here for the Cowboys. Dan Quinn

0:35:21.640 --> 0:35:23.560
<v Speaker 1>was a guy that was a you know, I don't

0:35:23.560 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>think Mike McCarthy had any great relationship with Dan Quinn.

0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:28.800
<v Speaker 1>Maybe you could do the same thing with one of

0:35:28.880 --> 0:35:31.440
<v Speaker 1>these coordinators, you know. I mean, there's several of these

0:35:31.560 --> 0:35:35.839
<v Speaker 1>head coaches that have been relieved of their jobs are

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 1>now out there, and so they thoughts on a guy

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:42.960
<v Speaker 1>like Nathaniel Hackett. See, that's the thing, there's a connection

0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:47.520
<v Speaker 1>because again, Mike McCarthy worked for Hackett's dad. You know,

0:35:47.760 --> 0:35:51.919
<v Speaker 1>Brian Schottenheimer. He worked for Schottenheimer's dad. You know, maybe

0:35:51.960 --> 0:35:55.120
<v Speaker 1>you're in a situation where it's you know, Frank Reich

0:35:55.760 --> 0:35:59.560
<v Speaker 1>or Cliff Kingsbury or somebody, you know, somebody your thinking offense,

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 1>Your thing can kind of a wide open kind of

0:36:01.640 --> 0:36:04.919
<v Speaker 1>a thing. You know. Maybe I'm just throwing names. I don't.

0:36:05.200 --> 0:36:07.280
<v Speaker 1>I don't mean to sit there and like everybody throwing

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.399
<v Speaker 1>up in their mouth when I'm talking about these guys.

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.160
<v Speaker 1>But there's been some head coaches that have been let go,

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:14.000
<v Speaker 1>and there's a reason why a lot of those guys

0:36:14.080 --> 0:36:16.920
<v Speaker 1>got the opportunity they got, particularly anything, I mean, Daniel

0:36:16.920 --> 0:36:18.719
<v Speaker 1>Hackett was doing a good job as a coordinator. That's

0:36:18.719 --> 0:36:20.439
<v Speaker 1>why he got the opportunity to head coach. And maybe

0:36:20.480 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 1>he's just not a good head coach, but he certainly

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>has some skins on the walls and off there's no question.

0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:27.160
<v Speaker 1>And again that fis for us now. But that's I

0:36:27.200 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 1>don't know who can right now. That's familiarity. That that

0:36:30.000 --> 0:36:33.640
<v Speaker 1>to my point, it's if you take somebody that's not

0:36:33.960 --> 0:36:38.640
<v Speaker 1>part of this guy helped his father, helped me get

0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.440
<v Speaker 1>a job. Guy, Yeah, you know that's that's and and

0:36:41.840 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>Nathaniel Hackett might be a great hire. But I to me,

0:36:45.800 --> 0:36:49.759
<v Speaker 1>I'm now connecting things. You how to divide fault or

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:55.080
<v Speaker 1>like what percentage would you give Kellen versus Mike McCarthy

0:36:55.840 --> 0:36:58.440
<v Speaker 1>if we don't know that, because what we don't know

0:36:58.680 --> 0:37:01.560
<v Speaker 1>is I don't know how much much is Mike involved

0:37:02.200 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 1>in the game planning? Yeah, and during the game is

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:07.480
<v Speaker 1>he in his ear saying hey, I need a little

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>more of this or I need a little less of this,

0:37:09.120 --> 0:37:12.400
<v Speaker 1>and he's he's not a good idea, Let's do something different, right,

0:37:12.719 --> 0:37:15.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and none of us That's what I

0:37:15.120 --> 0:37:18.240
<v Speaker 1>wonder though, because here we are just like oh, Kellen,

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.399
<v Speaker 1>Kelly and Kellen. But it does make me wonder, Okay,

0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 1>how much is it actually Mike McCarthy's fault as well?

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>Obviously he's a head coach, he has some well, so

0:37:27.200 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>the buck hasn't stop. Yeah, so he's like, Okay, is

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it Mike McCarthy and what he's doing, or is it

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>you get rid of the offensive coordinator? See what happens

0:37:36.000 --> 0:37:38.600
<v Speaker 1>to the fact that they've won thirteen games or fourteen?

0:37:38.800 --> 0:37:41.400
<v Speaker 1>With thirteen games, is now that the head coach has

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 1>probably saved himself. Yeah, so now it's not about the

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.720
<v Speaker 1>head coach, and the head coach can say I everything.

0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 1>We'll know if they get rid of Kellen Moore, if

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 1>they move on from Kellen Moore, then that's a decision

0:37:53.719 --> 0:37:56.680
<v Speaker 1>by Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy, and then then we'll say

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:59.439
<v Speaker 1>how much do you want to blame? He's Mike McCarthy's thinking.

0:37:59.560 --> 0:38:01.280
<v Speaker 1>I try, I had to tell you what I wanted

0:38:01.320 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 1>to do, and we did this. Okay, I allowed it.

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:09.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna allow it anymore. Do you think Jerry

0:38:09.360 --> 0:38:13.560
<v Speaker 1>has the decision to make on let Kelly, let Dan

0:38:13.640 --> 0:38:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Quinn leave, or make him the head coach. I'm just

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:18.759
<v Speaker 1>gonna come out and say it. I'm too tired to

0:38:19.440 --> 0:38:22.279
<v Speaker 1>dance around. Do you think that that should even be

0:38:22.400 --> 0:38:24.480
<v Speaker 1>on the table. I don't think it is on the

0:38:24.560 --> 0:38:27.760
<v Speaker 1>table personally. And the reason why I don't is because

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:31.560
<v Speaker 1>I think Jerry's looking at this and saying, Mike McCarthy

0:38:31.640 --> 0:38:34.160
<v Speaker 1>got me twelve wins last year, Mike McCarthy got McCarthy

0:38:34.239 --> 0:38:36.960
<v Speaker 1>got me thirteen wins this year. I don't think my

0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.000
<v Speaker 1>head coach is the problem. But he also got you

0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Mike Nolan as the defensive coordinator to the first year,

0:38:42.239 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>and then Jim tom and has been one and one

0:38:46.320 --> 0:38:48.480
<v Speaker 1>in two in the playoffs. So yes, I get all that. Now,

0:38:48.560 --> 0:38:51.560
<v Speaker 1>you can depends on who wants to argue which side

0:38:51.600 --> 0:38:53.800
<v Speaker 1>in the room on the debate team, which I wouldn't

0:38:53.840 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 1>want to, you know, debate with you since you're an

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 1>all state debater in high school, which is true, but

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:04.799
<v Speaker 1>does can can any defensive coordinator worth his salt come

0:39:04.840 --> 0:39:07.439
<v Speaker 1>in here and take Michael Parsons and and be good

0:39:07.480 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 1>with it? You know, and like I don't. I don't

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:11.040
<v Speaker 1>know what we're going to find out. Probably don't know.

0:39:11.360 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>So that's that. That's the decision, and I think I

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:17.000
<v Speaker 1>think that's something that Jerry is has to think about.

0:39:17.239 --> 0:39:20.239
<v Speaker 1>And again, this isn't mean knowing anything. I believe Mike

0:39:20.320 --> 0:39:22.400
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy will be the head coach next year, but I

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:24.200
<v Speaker 1>don't think it's going to be easy to say bye

0:39:24.239 --> 0:39:26.880
<v Speaker 1>to Dan Quinn if if in fair, I don't I

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:28.920
<v Speaker 1>agree with you on that. I think the thing that

0:39:29.040 --> 0:39:32.239
<v Speaker 1>you have to now in your line of thinking is

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:35.400
<v Speaker 1>if you ask Dan Quinn, if I hire you as

0:39:35.440 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>the head coach, who's your OC. That's the question you

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 1>now have to ask, because if you have an understanding like, Okay,

0:39:43.160 --> 0:39:47.440
<v Speaker 1>who's Mike McCarthy going to bring in here as an OC? Potentially? Okay,

0:39:47.560 --> 0:39:49.400
<v Speaker 1>who's Dan? Dan? Who do you got if you were

0:39:49.440 --> 0:39:51.719
<v Speaker 1>if I were to give you this job, who would

0:39:51.719 --> 0:39:55.320
<v Speaker 1>you bring in as NOC? Now? Will and Steven have

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to sit down and say, all right, wait a minute.

0:39:58.640 --> 0:40:01.520
<v Speaker 1>With Dan, we get this, we get our defense. But

0:40:01.719 --> 0:40:04.480
<v Speaker 1>he's got a better coordinator idea than the head coach

0:40:05.080 --> 0:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>than the current head coaching. Jerry Jones is open to

0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:11.480
<v Speaker 1>have that kind of interview with then Quinn. I think

0:40:11.520 --> 0:40:13.440
<v Speaker 1>he's paying Dan Quinn like he's a head coach right

0:40:13.480 --> 0:40:15.200
<v Speaker 1>now to be honest with you, I don't think there's

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 1>anything Jerry's not willing to at least think about. Like

0:40:17.800 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 1>I think he's probably thinking about everything. But but I'll

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.040
<v Speaker 1>also throw this out there into this mix. Are we

0:40:24.160 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 1>sure that let's assume for a second, let's go way

0:40:26.800 --> 0:40:29.080
<v Speaker 1>out on a limb and assume that they make the

0:40:29.160 --> 0:40:32.279
<v Speaker 1>decision we'd rather keep dan Quinn and they keep him.

0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:36.239
<v Speaker 1>What makes us believe that as the head coach, this

0:40:36.480 --> 0:40:38.200
<v Speaker 1>defense is still gonna be as good as it was

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 1>when he was the guy that was over the defense,

0:40:40.480 --> 0:40:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Like when he was in Atlanta, that defense is pretty

0:40:43.000 --> 0:40:46.720
<v Speaker 1>good the first year. It got progressively worse over the years.

0:40:47.040 --> 0:40:48.719
<v Speaker 1>And so it does make me wonder, like, if you're

0:40:48.760 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 1>the head coach, you're not pouring as much time into

0:40:50.719 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 1>the defense. You're certainly probably not calling the plays on

0:40:53.120 --> 0:40:56.320
<v Speaker 1>game day, and so you're still not getting the benefit

0:40:56.400 --> 0:40:58.719
<v Speaker 1>of dan Quinn is your defensive coordinator, he's your head coach.

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:01.200
<v Speaker 1>That's a different role. He called the plays when they

0:41:01.200 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 1>were in New Orleans that time, when that the COVID

0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:06.680
<v Speaker 1>game with Mike McCarthy, when he was the head coach,

0:41:07.040 --> 0:41:10.040
<v Speaker 1>they won the game in New Orleans against against trist

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:13.400
<v Speaker 1>Is it Hillo Hill, Taysom Hill. Yeah, said Tristan Hill,

0:41:13.880 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 1>Taysom Hill. Dan was on the sidelines calling defense just

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.840
<v Speaker 1>that that time, just that time. Yeah, you know, is

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 1>it one of those things. I mean we've seen We've

0:41:23.360 --> 0:41:26.360
<v Speaker 1>seen guys like, I know, the guy at New Orleans,

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.759
<v Speaker 1>Dennis Allen. You know, Now, maybe it's a thing where

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:31.880
<v Speaker 1>you trust Joe Wit to be that guy. If you're

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:34.480
<v Speaker 1>Dan Quinn, You're like, listen, I trust Joe. I'm not

0:41:34.520 --> 0:41:36.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna let Joe mess Joe. What do you got? What

0:41:36.560 --> 0:41:38.320
<v Speaker 1>do you Joe? What do you know? Joe? Don't go

0:41:38.440 --> 0:41:40.279
<v Speaker 1>with that. Yeah, think about this one, you know. I

0:41:40.360 --> 0:41:42.560
<v Speaker 1>mean maybe that's what maybe learned something from his time

0:41:42.560 --> 0:41:44.160
<v Speaker 1>in Atlanta. I think helps. Yeah, I don't know. I

0:41:44.280 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 1>think so. I I think it didn't have Michael Parsons

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.399
<v Speaker 1>and Trey Von Diggs. I think it's something if you're

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're Jerry Jones, you absolutely have to consider because

0:41:52.520 --> 0:41:55.040
<v Speaker 1>to me, you want to know, the number one thing

0:41:55.160 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking about this offseason is fixing Dak Prescott. Yeah,

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 1>that's the number one thing I'm thinking about. So every

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 1>decision has to every decision has to be whether you

0:42:03.800 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 1>hire a defensive head coach and dan Quinn, who's the OC?

0:42:07.920 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 1>What other staff are we going to bring in here?

0:42:10.120 --> 0:42:14.280
<v Speaker 1>You know that? Or if you're Mike McCarthy, all right, Mike, listen,

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:17.480
<v Speaker 1>congratulations had a nice year. Who do you want as

0:42:17.480 --> 0:42:19.920
<v Speaker 1>your OC? And tell me why you want? And tell

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:22.400
<v Speaker 1>me why and how you're going to not how you're

0:42:22.440 --> 0:42:25.680
<v Speaker 1>going to fix four from some of the deficiencies he's shown.

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:28.960
<v Speaker 1>And if they decide, if Gerry decides that he does

0:42:29.040 --> 0:42:31.560
<v Speaker 1>want to go that route and get let say you

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:34.879
<v Speaker 1>get dan Quinn. It wouldn't be right away because he'll

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.400
<v Speaker 1>lose draft picks if he doesn't do it. He's got

0:42:37.560 --> 0:42:41.320
<v Speaker 1>a he's got an interview, he's an interviewed minority candidates.

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:43.000
<v Speaker 1>He's got it. You know what he's like. I don't. Now.

0:42:43.040 --> 0:42:46.399
<v Speaker 1>You can wink, wink and say, Hank tie, it's coming

0:42:46.440 --> 0:42:48.560
<v Speaker 1>back to you, but I mean, that's not the spirit

0:42:48.600 --> 0:42:50.480
<v Speaker 1>of the rule, and not at all. I wouldn't think

0:42:50.520 --> 0:42:53.279
<v Speaker 1>that they would do that. And so you know, and

0:42:54.320 --> 0:42:56.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, since it's being talked, I've already been asked

0:42:56.960 --> 0:42:59.480
<v Speaker 1>twice this morning and I've barely even been awake for

0:42:59.600 --> 0:43:02.160
<v Speaker 1>a long enough for it but I do not believe

0:43:02.239 --> 0:43:05.640
<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton is in play here. No, I don't think

0:43:05.680 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 1>he has either need cheap superstars, and the only way

0:43:09.040 --> 0:43:11.719
<v Speaker 1>you get cheap superstars is if you draft them. So

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:13.759
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you would want to get a

0:43:14.440 --> 0:43:17.200
<v Speaker 1>Sean Payton in here, whose resume I don't think is

0:43:17.200 --> 0:43:20.160
<v Speaker 1>any better than McCarthy's to come in here and lose

0:43:20.239 --> 0:43:22.759
<v Speaker 1>a first round pick. It is not talking about a

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.839
<v Speaker 1>conditional six. This is a first round pick. No, thank you. Yeah. Yeah.

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:28.960
<v Speaker 1>The thing about I think with Sean is to me

0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:32.680
<v Speaker 1>that and maybe the bridges. I'm not saying we're burned,

0:43:32.719 --> 0:43:34.920
<v Speaker 1>but you know, there's such a friendship there and stuff

0:43:35.000 --> 0:43:37.239
<v Speaker 1>like that. I think that maybe Jerry's kind of moved

0:43:37.280 --> 0:43:40.920
<v Speaker 1>on from that. Just listening to people talk. Yeah, I mean,

0:43:41.160 --> 0:43:43.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm friends with Sean. I have not talked

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.160
<v Speaker 1>to Sean one day about this job. Now he's yelled

0:43:46.200 --> 0:43:49.520
<v Speaker 1>at me for talking about this job while others are

0:43:49.600 --> 0:43:52.520
<v Speaker 1>still having jobs. But I have not talked to Sean

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:57.160
<v Speaker 1>about this particular job in a while. I'll say this though,

0:43:57.200 --> 0:43:59.920
<v Speaker 1>I would be absolutely shocked at this point if anybody

0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 1>other than Mike McCarthy is a head coach of this team,

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:04.080
<v Speaker 1>make I wouldn't. I don't see any reason why Jerry

0:44:04.080 --> 0:44:06.840
<v Speaker 1>would have gone out there and been so emphatic yesterday

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.920
<v Speaker 1>and the time he was asked before yesterday about Mike

0:44:10.000 --> 0:44:12.640
<v Speaker 1>McCarthy's job security, Like he would have just been like,

0:44:12.760 --> 0:44:14.759
<v Speaker 1>you know, we'll look at everything. There's no reason why

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 1>you and we're like Odell and well but they but

0:44:21.640 --> 0:44:24.200
<v Speaker 1>the point is the point with Odell, like they wanted O'Dell.

0:44:24.320 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Let's not make any mistakes about like they wanted O'Dell.

0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:28.440
<v Speaker 1>It just once they finally got a chance to look

0:44:28.440 --> 0:44:30.359
<v Speaker 1>at him, they were like, who, you're healthy and maybe

0:44:30.400 --> 0:44:32.160
<v Speaker 1>he's not the guy, right. So I don't think it's

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>a matter if Jerry didn't want him. I think he

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:35.920
<v Speaker 1>was very clear about that. I just think this was

0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:38.520
<v Speaker 1>a situation where he is saying emphatically because I think

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:41.520
<v Speaker 1>he believes Mike earned the ability to stay here for

0:44:41.600 --> 0:44:44.120
<v Speaker 1>another year. And I think I would just be shocked

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:46.120
<v Speaker 1>if they do anything different this year that doesn't mean

0:44:46.120 --> 0:44:48.160
<v Speaker 1>anything for future years. This year, I would be shocked.

0:44:48.239 --> 0:44:50.439
<v Speaker 1>You know. It's ironic is that when we go back

0:44:51.120 --> 0:44:53.919
<v Speaker 1>six weeks, we were when we were all knee deep

0:44:54.000 --> 0:44:58.800
<v Speaker 1>in the Odell stuff like thought it was happening, And Brian,

0:44:58.880 --> 0:45:02.839
<v Speaker 1>you kept saying, you know, in the playoffs on third down,

0:45:03.120 --> 0:45:07.160
<v Speaker 1>third and four, is he gonna make your play? Damn?

0:45:07.239 --> 0:45:09.799
<v Speaker 1>Did he wish he was? You had somebody that can

0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 1>make a play, And now I know it wasn't him.

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:13.600
<v Speaker 1>He wasn't healthy any and a lot of the reason

0:45:13.680 --> 0:45:16.640
<v Speaker 1>he wasn't healthy, it's because of Odell. Odell didn't commit

0:45:16.760 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 1>to his rehab like he should have. Well, like like

0:45:19.680 --> 0:45:21.759
<v Speaker 1>like he needed to, not should have. You can do

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:24.160
<v Speaker 1>whatever you want, your grown man, but like he needed

0:45:24.200 --> 0:45:26.480
<v Speaker 1>to to be able to play. They have they have

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.080
<v Speaker 1>a decision about the running back to that running back

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 1>might be done. He's already moved to center. I really

0:45:34.680 --> 0:45:37.440
<v Speaker 1>hope that's not the final play of his Cowboy career,

0:45:37.800 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>getting trucked at the center position. But I do agree

0:45:41.560 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 1>with you, Brian, like there's no way your lead running back,

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:47.600
<v Speaker 1>which he still is, your starting running back, there's no

0:45:47.680 --> 0:45:50.080
<v Speaker 1>way you lose your backup. And we know I know

0:45:50.160 --> 0:45:52.400
<v Speaker 1>what Tony Pollo brings this team. I get that, but

0:45:52.480 --> 0:45:55.279
<v Speaker 1>there's no way you lose that guy. Your starter is

0:45:55.320 --> 0:45:59.160
<v Speaker 1>still in the game, and your offense just can't go anywhere,

0:45:59.280 --> 0:46:01.279
<v Speaker 1>cannot move the ball. And there were a number of

0:46:01.400 --> 0:46:03.399
<v Speaker 1>runs Nick, you and I were talking about in the game,

0:46:03.440 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 1>or number of runs where you're looking at him, you're like, man,

0:46:06.040 --> 0:46:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Zeke got one or two, maybe three, Polly would have

0:46:08.880 --> 0:46:11.879
<v Speaker 1>gotten eighty. He just doesn't have that. He doesn't seem

0:46:11.880 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 1>to have that first decision if and the one thing.

0:46:14.080 --> 0:46:16.680
<v Speaker 1>And hopefully we'll have the draft show coming up here

0:46:16.880 --> 0:46:20.120
<v Speaker 1>in a few days or so. But there's plenty of

0:46:20.200 --> 0:46:21.680
<v Speaker 1>running backs in the sea. You go, there's a lot

0:46:21.719 --> 0:46:23.839
<v Speaker 1>of running backs, and it's and it's hey, go out

0:46:23.880 --> 0:46:25.800
<v Speaker 1>there and if you want to, you know, if you

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:27.960
<v Speaker 1>want to figure it out, if you if Pollard leaves

0:46:28.000 --> 0:46:30.839
<v Speaker 1>and Zeke moves on and all that, you will have opportunities.

0:46:30.920 --> 0:46:35.319
<v Speaker 1>You really really Pollard, Yeah, Pollard is a different situation now,

0:46:35.440 --> 0:46:39.319
<v Speaker 1>polar Yeah, everything changed. I think broken leg, I mean

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:44.600
<v Speaker 1>broken uh fibula three months? Three months? Three months? So

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:48.160
<v Speaker 1>let's say until what that's yeah, that's what they say,

0:46:48.160 --> 0:46:50.839
<v Speaker 1>it's a three month rehab thing. Well then then maybe

0:46:50.880 --> 0:46:53.080
<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have a broken fibula. Is that? What is that?

0:46:53.160 --> 0:46:54.480
<v Speaker 1>That's what they called it, But they said it was

0:46:54.520 --> 0:46:57.320
<v Speaker 1>a three month thing. Three month I mean by April,

0:46:57.400 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>he would be ready to what resumed flack ativity. So

0:47:01.360 --> 0:47:04.000
<v Speaker 1>that means he's here for most of the offseason workouts. Yeah,

0:47:04.120 --> 0:47:07.680
<v Speaker 1>but he's gonna be rehabbing the whole time. Decisions You

0:47:07.760 --> 0:47:10.279
<v Speaker 1>got to make decisions on him in March. Yeah, yeah,

0:47:10.360 --> 0:47:11.960
<v Speaker 1>but what we but what we know about this team,

0:47:12.000 --> 0:47:13.680
<v Speaker 1>they're not afraid to do it with an injured guy,

0:47:13.800 --> 0:47:18.799
<v Speaker 1>like you franchise him. I wouldn't. I wouldn't, but I'm

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:21.840
<v Speaker 1>not saying I don't three million dollars. I would not.

0:47:22.280 --> 0:47:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I would win. He won't. He may not be himself

0:47:26.440 --> 0:47:28.320
<v Speaker 1>that that whole year. And my thing is just like

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.520
<v Speaker 1>running backs, you can get them, man, there are there

0:47:31.560 --> 0:47:34.399
<v Speaker 1>are so many running backs in this league that coming

0:47:34.520 --> 0:47:37.480
<v Speaker 1>every round of the draft, Like you can get quality

0:47:37.560 --> 0:47:39.880
<v Speaker 1>running backs and and bring them in here and get

0:47:39.960 --> 0:47:41.960
<v Speaker 1>them to play. I just look at that, and I'm like,

0:47:42.280 --> 0:47:45.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm going back to the well and quite frankly, every

0:47:45.120 --> 0:47:48.160
<v Speaker 1>two years I would be drafted, I will, and he

0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:51.640
<v Speaker 1>just keep it rotating. The kid at Texas be Jean Robinson,

0:47:51.920 --> 0:47:54.440
<v Speaker 1>regardless of positions, one of the best players I've ever seen.

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:57.480
<v Speaker 1>He's a he is a ball. Seriously, I don't know

0:47:57.560 --> 0:47:59.920
<v Speaker 1>that honestly in the time that I've been a Texas fan,

0:48:00.000 --> 0:48:03.120
<v Speaker 1>and I don't know that even and I'll even go,

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.839
<v Speaker 1>this is gonna sound crazy, Ricky even looking at Ricky,

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:10.160
<v Speaker 1>like watching Bejon is a different beast, Like I am

0:48:10.360 --> 0:48:12.080
<v Speaker 1>afraid that we're not gonna have him next year, Like

0:48:12.120 --> 0:48:14.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm that is that is terrifying to me because as

0:48:14.719 --> 0:48:17.640
<v Speaker 1>bad as we were at times this year, Beijean still Bijon,

0:48:17.920 --> 0:48:21.319
<v Speaker 1>like he just he has a way doing some amazing things.

0:48:21.680 --> 0:48:26.600
<v Speaker 1>Campbell that was a little bit before my fandom. You

0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:30.320
<v Speaker 1>guys are so cut through, and you know, and I

0:48:30.440 --> 0:48:33.120
<v Speaker 1>am too sometimes, but it's about to say, like who's

0:48:33.200 --> 0:48:38.399
<v Speaker 1>probably who probably on this show? Open the show right,

0:48:38.719 --> 0:48:41.200
<v Speaker 1>like I have nothing to say, like you, I'm afraid

0:48:41.200 --> 0:48:55.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna cuss. Yes you switch to Spanish. Um no,

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:59.120
<v Speaker 1>it's it's you know, yes, I am cut throw but

0:48:59.400 --> 0:49:02.760
<v Speaker 1>at the same time time in a sports way, feelings

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:07.320
<v Speaker 1>and I'm a very sentimental emotional person and it just

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:11.120
<v Speaker 1>it sucks because I love Zeke, but it sucks every

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:15.080
<v Speaker 1>once we got to this point where you know, you

0:49:15.160 --> 0:49:19.040
<v Speaker 1>got to move on from somebody and then you couldn't

0:49:19.080 --> 0:49:21.520
<v Speaker 1>get where you wanted to get. With the people you

0:49:21.640 --> 0:49:25.400
<v Speaker 1>were in and like hanging in there these people. Tyren Smith,

0:49:25.719 --> 0:49:28.160
<v Speaker 1>he ain't gonna I think that's it for him as well.

0:49:28.800 --> 0:49:32.240
<v Speaker 1>Sack Mary. I'm sure he's gonna still be here possibly,

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:35.759
<v Speaker 1>But you talked about like just kind of getting a

0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:38.520
<v Speaker 1>new roster every year, and it happens you're never gonna

0:49:38.520 --> 0:49:42.520
<v Speaker 1>have the same team year after year. That that's that's

0:49:42.560 --> 0:49:46.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna happen, but it just sucks us. Huh might keep

0:49:46.880 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 1>Tyren Smith? I think I might too. What I saw

0:49:49.320 --> 0:49:52.680
<v Speaker 1>at t Smith and Smith on the left side, and

0:49:52.760 --> 0:49:54.759
<v Speaker 1>they go back with the group you originally thought you

0:49:54.800 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 1>were gonna go with. Okay, Now, now here's here's the thing.

0:49:58.800 --> 0:50:01.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not bidding on the fact he's gonna stay healthy. Sure,

0:50:01.640 --> 0:50:05.239
<v Speaker 1>that's the part where you better have all Right, we

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.080
<v Speaker 1>appreciate you, guys, Jones. We'll be back tomorrow, and tomorrow

0:50:07.080 --> 0:50:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna get a little more into this.

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>Where do they go next? Because there's so many questions

0:50:11.719 --> 0:50:14.080
<v Speaker 1>there on with all the free agents and and all

0:50:14.120 --> 0:50:16.560
<v Speaker 1>the players that we know will be will have the

0:50:16.600 --> 0:50:19.160
<v Speaker 1>opportunity to go other places. Where should the Cowboys be

0:50:19.239 --> 0:50:21.040
<v Speaker 1>looking to improve this team and get better we'll talk

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:22.959
<v Speaker 1>about that tomorrow for Nick Keepman. Brian brought us Amber

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<v Speaker 1>Got See. I'm Derek Hilton. This has been The Break

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