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Speaker 1: bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, January twenty third,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Season eighteen, Episode number one twelve. Welcome
Speaker 1: to the latest edition of The Break. We're Alive from
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Speaker 1: today we gotta do what we've done before. This is
Speaker 1: not new for US Cowboys. Season ends last night. They
Speaker 1: lose to the San Francisco forty nine. There's nineteen to twelve,
Speaker 1: eliminating them from the playoffs at the divisional round. And
Speaker 1: today we'll tell you what we think went right and
Speaker 1: wrong for this team and maybe get a little bit
Speaker 1: probably more tomorrow get into what this really means, because
Speaker 1: I think there's so many offshoots from this game. When
Speaker 1: you start thinking about what this means for this franchise
Speaker 1: and what this means for this team and all the
Speaker 1: players that are on this team. But let's start first.
Speaker 1: There are so many things that happened in that game.
Speaker 1: If you could kind of crystallize it into kind of
Speaker 1: one thing, what is the enduring memory you'll have years
Speaker 1: from now about the game against the forty nine Ers
Speaker 1: in the Divisional round of playoffs in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: Nick forty nine ers were a really good team. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys on this day were a pretty good team. I
Speaker 1: mean I thought their defense was not as good as
Speaker 1: though as the forty nine ers. I think their offense
Speaker 1: obviously wasn't as good as the fortin ers, and their
Speaker 1: special teams wasn't either, So I mean I thought they
Speaker 1: was close in all three and that's why the game
Speaker 1: was close at the end of the day. I think
Speaker 1: the forty nine just had more playmakers that made more plays,
Speaker 1: had more weapons amber go ahead. I think it was
Speaker 1: a game of missed opportunities. I really do. I feel
Speaker 1: like though that there were some. You know, we went
Speaker 1: into this game talking about all the things that you
Speaker 1: were going to have to deal with, talking to coaches,
Speaker 1: how do you attack, how do you do this? How
Speaker 1: do you do that? You know? It really it really
Speaker 1: kind of comes down to, you know, their ability to
Speaker 1: make plays and then your ability not to in some ways.
Speaker 1: You know, whether it's you get a you know, you
Speaker 1: dropped interceptions, or you don't quite protect well enough for
Speaker 1: you know, you you know, you had an opportunity to
Speaker 1: hit a guy and you know, instead you let the
Speaker 1: play extend and it throws you into another whole thing
Speaker 1: where there's defenders. You know, I just you know, it's
Speaker 1: it's not about playing the perfect game, but it's about
Speaker 1: when the opportunities that you have to make plays, you
Speaker 1: got to capitalize on those. I mean, I know, watching
Speaker 1: going back and why in the tape of this game,
Speaker 1: I was worried about Nick Bosa and how he could
Speaker 1: affect the game. Nick Bosa affected you on three plays
Speaker 1: in this game, you know, and they were back to
Speaker 1: back plays down in the red zone where he was
Speaker 1: able to get some pressure. The way he ables the
Speaker 1: knife through and get a tackle. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: when you're Noah Brown, You're trying to run there on
Speaker 1: the goal line. Play looked like it had a chance,
Speaker 1: but you know, Tyron Smith gets beat inside and then
Speaker 1: the next play, Tyron Smith gets beat on the spin move,
Speaker 1: and then what happens again is you know then and Bosa,
Speaker 1: you know beat you you know a third time on
Speaker 1: the long pass to try and get it to Michael
Speaker 1: Gallop where he's open, you know. So you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's the difference of a lot of these games nowadays.
Speaker 1: It's when these players that when you have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to make plays, you've got to make plays. I think,
Speaker 1: for the most part, if you said, heck, you're gonna
Speaker 1: give nineteen points six points off turnovers to the forty
Speaker 1: nine ers and you're only gonna give him nineteen points,
Speaker 1: you kind of feel like you got a shot to
Speaker 1: win this game. But you know, you didn't handle you
Speaker 1: didn't handle their their defense a tackle really really really well,
Speaker 1: and you know you had some plays where you just
Speaker 1: kind of didn't didn't do what you needed to do
Speaker 1: in order to keep drives going or to be able
Speaker 1: to finish drives. My heart is being out of my
Speaker 1: chest right now. I probably shouldn't have had coffee a
Speaker 1: little bit ago because I'm like, right now, um, you know,
Speaker 1: every game they've lost this season, we walked out of
Speaker 1: those games saying they should have won that game. And
Speaker 1: this was like another example of they should have won
Speaker 1: that game. We get to San Francisco, we're at the
Speaker 1: stadium pre game. Since we stepped onto the field, the
Speaker 1: forty nine Ers were being nasty. And people may say, oh, well,
Speaker 1: this is a playoff game, that's how you should be,
Speaker 1: you know whatever, and it's fine, that's good, but be respectful.
Speaker 1: And but if you're gonna be nasty, all right, let's
Speaker 1: be free be nasty. The Cowboys offense didn't freaking show
Speaker 1: up whatsoever. There was no fire in them. There was
Speaker 1: no It did not feel like they were playing a
Speaker 1: playoff game. There was zero energy. They couldn't connecting anything.
Speaker 1: The only player that you had there was City Lamp
Speaker 1: making plays. Everybody else on offense pretty much disappear, and
Speaker 1: they weren't able to do anything. And what's more most
Speaker 1: upsetting to me, it's knowing the fact that, seeing how
Speaker 1: the defense played this game was within reach. We were
Speaker 1: talking about here all week, Brian breaking down the forty
Speaker 1: nine Ers offense, breaking down the forty nine Ers defense,
Speaker 1: talking about how much talent they had, and knowing that
Speaker 1: going into the game, the Cowboys defense was able to
Speaker 1: do as much as they did contain them that much. Obviously,
Speaker 1: the second half they started wearing down and all that,
Speaker 1: but they kept the game to where you should have
Speaker 1: freaking won that game and your offense should have done
Speaker 1: so much more than what they did. And that's the
Speaker 1: most upsetting to me, because if we walked out of
Speaker 1: that game with that still losing, but they put up
Speaker 1: a fight and it was a good one. At least
Speaker 1: you feel a little bit better. You said, Okay, well
Speaker 1: it wasn't in their destined once again, but at least
Speaker 1: they were out there lost with the fight, and there
Speaker 1: was no freaking fight on the offensive side of the
Speaker 1: ball at least. And that's just I can't believe it's over.
Speaker 1: I can't believe we got to start this again after
Speaker 1: feeling that we were so close and the Cowboys do
Speaker 1: have a talented team, but it's just finding consistency has
Speaker 1: been the whole problem this year. Yeah, for me, this
Speaker 1: game came down to Dak Prescott and we heard Dak
Speaker 1: talk weeks ago where he said, after a game where
Speaker 1: he thrown interceptions, you know I'm going to fix this.
Speaker 1: I guaranteed it's going to get fixed, and it didn't
Speaker 1: get fixed yesterday. Like there were two interceptions, there was
Speaker 1: a third that should have been and I don't even
Speaker 1: like normally saying should have been, But in that circumstance
Speaker 1: that was in the crunch time of the game, it
Speaker 1: was you got three minutes left in this game, you're
Speaker 1: right where you got them, right where you want them,
Speaker 1: like you're down a touchdown, and I'd already meant, Nick
Speaker 1: could already had the conversations. I thought at that moment,
Speaker 1: this is where this is where Dak makes his name.
Speaker 1: This is where you drive your team down three minutes
Speaker 1: left to go, you score a touchdown and go for two,
Speaker 1: like you're gonna go for two. And I'm the quarterback,
Speaker 1: if I'm the head coach, I'm giving him the ball
Speaker 1: and I'm saying, get in the freaking end zone and
Speaker 1: we're gonna end this thing and we're gonna move on
Speaker 1: to the next round. I think, And what ends up
Speaker 1: and what ends up happening three and out and the
Speaker 1: first of those three bad plays where they got zero
Speaker 1: yards was what should have been an interception, And that,
Speaker 1: to me is where I look at this, And Dak
Speaker 1: said it after the game. He takes accountability but it
Speaker 1: really is that game came down to your quarterback just
Speaker 1: didn't play well enough. He put you behind the eight
Speaker 1: ball way too often, and a defensive performance like that
Speaker 1: got wasted by the quarterback not playing up to standard.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Dak. His numbers twenty three to thirty seven,
Speaker 1: sixty two percent completion rate, two hundred and six yards passing,
Speaker 1: one touchdown, two interceptions. He had another four rushes for
Speaker 1: twenty two yards with a five point five average on
Speaker 1: the ground. How much do you guys put this loss
Speaker 1: on Dak? I mean he's the quarterback, so yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: he got all the praise when they when they won
Speaker 1: last month and he played him He played amazing in
Speaker 1: that game, so he did not play amazing in this game.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of passes that he left on the table.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting all of it on him, but but
Speaker 1: you know, he's the quarterback, so he gets it. You know.
Speaker 1: I think I think that they I think they lost
Speaker 1: the game on the extra point. Be honest with you,
Speaker 1: when they missed the extra point, I think that lost
Speaker 1: the game for them in a lot of ways. Explain
Speaker 1: that they lost four points on that and they lost
Speaker 1: the running back for the season and may and who
Speaker 1: knows after that, Um, if he makes that extra point,
Speaker 1: they're up seven to six. It doesn't deflate the touchdown too,
Speaker 1: because it's like here we go again. It's not just
Speaker 1: one miss. It's like, oh my god, everyone's looking at
Speaker 1: this guy. Is he mentally tough? The forty nine ers
Speaker 1: are over there, you know, being classless and trying to
Speaker 1: get in his head before and all that stuff. Um
Speaker 1: that you know that was crap. But but but missing
Speaker 1: that that was huge because then when they're driving down
Speaker 1: at the at the you know, the two minute warning,
Speaker 1: and they're on the thirty four yard line, I think
Speaker 1: they kick a field goal there. He's kicked fifty yarders
Speaker 1: all year long. If if you trust that he can
Speaker 1: make that kick, and if you do make it, even
Speaker 1: if you miss it, he don't lose your running back
Speaker 1: for the season, because for the game because he gets
Speaker 1: hurt on the next play. But I think him getting
Speaker 1: hurt then now it's all on them. We can't kick.
Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta score. We don't have anybody. We're
Speaker 1: throwing wide now to CD, I think it changed their
Speaker 1: whole plan. But it all started to me on that
Speaker 1: extra point that was not only blocked, but that thing
Speaker 1: was going to Oakland. So it's your I mean that
Speaker 1: it's it wasn't about the block, because I know there
Speaker 1: are probably some people up there like, well it was blocked.
Speaker 1: That is that his fault? Is this a situation where
Speaker 1: you think he would have missrepolled. I went and watched it.
Speaker 1: I looked at it. The ball. The ball was not
Speaker 1: end over end. The ball was almost sideways when it
Speaker 1: was coming out of that office that guy, and it
Speaker 1: was very low. And the guy that blocked it's like
Speaker 1: I've never blocked the kick because he doesn't line up
Speaker 1: in the middle like he was just putting his hands up,
Speaker 1: and I mean that he would you know there was
Speaker 1: a guy. But at the same time, even though you
Speaker 1: know that thing wasn't gonna go in, but the fact
Speaker 1: that it was blocked, I think that maybe mentally for
Speaker 1: Bret Mohard, just to go through the game with quote
Speaker 1: unquote that like, oh, well it was blocked, rather than
Speaker 1: he missed the first one. You know, that at least
Speaker 1: I think helped a little bit mentally to kind of
Speaker 1: come back and be able to make whatever else he made.
Speaker 1: I don't think it helped McCarthy though, because I think
Speaker 1: McCarthy would have tried it, would try to field goal there,
Speaker 1: and uh and and that doesn't I mean, that's four
Speaker 1: points to me. He lost by seven. I mean, the
Speaker 1: whole game could change a little bit, but I just
Speaker 1: think psychologically that that affected so much. Brian. You put
Speaker 1: this game one day. Yeah. I feel like though, there's
Speaker 1: when you when you start for everything that we praised
Speaker 1: him for on Tuesday morning, it reverted back to what
Speaker 1: we what you were talking about earlier, and the ability
Speaker 1: to see the field, the ability to to make the
Speaker 1: quick decisions, the ability to you know, you know they're
Speaker 1: playing six across and you're throwing the ball into that
Speaker 1: and you know, I mean, it just it seems like
Speaker 1: things compound for him, you know, the and you want
Speaker 1: to believe that like the harder, the tougher it is,
Speaker 1: the more that he you know, we always talk about
Speaker 1: him being bloodied and muddied and playing and having that
Speaker 1: feel of the game. He had no feel in that
Speaker 1: game yesterday. He had no feel. I don't think he
Speaker 1: had confidence in some of the throws that he was
Speaker 1: actually making. And it again, it doesn't help when you're
Speaker 1: You're probably feeling like that nick boss to just destroy you,
Speaker 1: you know, or you know, Tyler Smith's going to give
Speaker 1: up a pressure, or you're gonna get holding, or something's
Speaker 1: going to happen this game. But I think that, you know,
Speaker 1: to me, you look at what the you know, I
Speaker 1: think there's some questions about this coordinator. I really really do.
Speaker 1: I think there's some things. There's some you know, I
Speaker 1: think there's a question about the head coach. It's fourth
Speaker 1: and fourth and five on the forty and you take
Speaker 1: a delay of the game penalty. You know. I mean
Speaker 1: to me, there's there's there's things that you gotta you know,
Speaker 1: I always talk about knowing the condition of your team,
Speaker 1: no one to try and make a spark. Maybe he
Speaker 1: knew on fourth and five he couldn't go for it
Speaker 1: on fourth down because his quarterback wasn't any good, you know.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I a lot of this, A lot of
Speaker 1: this does go on him because when again, when you
Speaker 1: watch when you watch the plays, when you watch the throws,
Speaker 1: when you watch what he's looking at, it's really it's
Speaker 1: one of those things that kind of when Dak is bad,
Speaker 1: it reminds you of all those things that we've seen
Speaker 1: this season, and when he has those problems, I definitely
Speaker 1: put the blame. Yeah, Dak was he just wasn't good
Speaker 1: at all and there were a lot of questionable decisions
Speaker 1: that he made that I don't think he should have
Speaker 1: made in this game. And I get all the criticism
Speaker 1: about Dak and at the same time, sitting here like
Speaker 1: it's hard and I don't want to root against him.
Speaker 1: It's so hard to because he's such a great guy.
Speaker 1: He's a tough guy, and he's shown signs to be
Speaker 1: that type of quarterback. But something has to change now.
Speaker 1: We can't just keep being the same. And you mentioned
Speaker 1: the coordinator. I wonder like under somebody else and we
Speaker 1: don't and not get into offseason talk over here, but
Speaker 1: it makes me we are Yeah, and it is hard
Speaker 1: to draft a quarterback, Hi, It is very hard and
Speaker 1: to find the right quarterback. But I do wonder if
Speaker 1: it wasn't with Kellen Moore and he had somebody else,
Speaker 1: could that person coach Dak Prescott better to the where
Speaker 1: now you you're making him be the type of quarterback
Speaker 1: that you need to be. I don't think he's gone
Speaker 1: through enough coaching or I haven't seen somebody else coach him,
Speaker 1: other than when you had like John Kidnap come in
Speaker 1: or um what was that that other the backup quarterback
Speaker 1: that helped him out a lot of Sanchez Sanches, Mark
Speaker 1: Sanchez when he So he's had those kind of little
Speaker 1: sprinkles of help here and there through his career, but
Speaker 1: not a legit like somebody else other than like Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore build around him and all that. So it makes
Speaker 1: me I still have that doubt rather than completely moved
Speaker 1: because people just want to get rid of that. They
Speaker 1: don't understand the salary cap. And you guys are right.
Speaker 1: You guys are right. I mean, you guys are not
Speaker 1: dancing around it, but we're gonna we're flirting around. You
Speaker 1: guys are exactly right. It's time to move on. It's
Speaker 1: time to move on from Kellen Moore. Another great guy.
Speaker 1: You know, he walks by in the hall. You see him.
Speaker 1: He seems like a really good, good guy. Doesn't talk
Speaker 1: a whole lot. But this isn't working, and you can't
Speaker 1: change your quarterback because of the salary cap of the
Speaker 1: way it is. In fact, you might even give them
Speaker 1: an extension to try to get more players in, which
Speaker 1: is only going to make the problem worse, but whatever.
Speaker 1: You can't do that, but you can get a new
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. Hey, Kellen, it's been great, Well, it's been
Speaker 1: good about that. It's been good, and it's been great.
Speaker 1: It's been it's been good, and it wasn't great yesterday.
Speaker 1: Some change has to be made and it's a lot
Speaker 1: easier to change the coordinator than change that. And yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's just the way it is. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think you're absolutely onto something there to me about this.
Speaker 1: This was always going to be the evaluation of twenty
Speaker 1: twenty two was going to be about the coaches, whether
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy after last year's disappointed I think Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: did a great job this year. And you know, now
Speaker 1: you now you you know, you won a playoff game.
Speaker 1: Now you get to that divisional round. You got to
Speaker 1: find a way to score more than twelve points in
Speaker 1: this football game. And you know, to me, that's where
Speaker 1: there's so much inconsistency, you know, with the quarterback and
Speaker 1: then with you know, and I'm not gonna sit there.
Speaker 1: I mean, I spent a long time in this lit
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna act like I know what every call
Speaker 1: and every play is and stuff like that. But you
Speaker 1: could see it when it's not working, you know, you
Speaker 1: can see it. And I think there were some times
Speaker 1: this year where Mike McCarthy had some frustrations with Kellen Moore,
Speaker 1: you know, but give them credit for winning four out
Speaker 1: of five games with Cooper Rush. Evidently Mike McCarthy went
Speaker 1: up him and said, listen, you get it. Quinn. Yeah, Queen,
Speaker 1: well but I know what you're saying. I mean, but
Speaker 1: to me, that's where that's where you're that's where you're
Speaker 1: at right now, though, is that you know you're trying
Speaker 1: to figure out You're not. To me, the quarterback was
Speaker 1: going to be evaluated in twenty three. That's when the
Speaker 1: quarterback because maybe there was going to be a coaching
Speaker 1: change and if Dak was able to be better with
Speaker 1: different coaches, then you could say, Okay, this is this
Speaker 1: is going to work if if you if you get
Speaker 1: to twenty three and it's still the same Dak in
Speaker 1: another press conference of talking about turnovers and it's never
Speaker 1: going to happen again. But you say that every week.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, you say it every week. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1: It's not Gonnapen. It's not Gonnapen. I'm gonna get better.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get better. It doesn't get better, so something
Speaker 1: has to change. Nick's right, it's not gonna be the
Speaker 1: quarterback this year. It's likely going to be offensive staff
Speaker 1: is what's going to change. And once offensive staff change,
Speaker 1: now the evaluation comes on, Dak, do you give him
Speaker 1: the extension? He signed a short contract. His contract isn't
Speaker 1: one of these six year contracts that they gave Mahomes
Speaker 1: or any somebody else that that was what he wanted,
Speaker 1: exactly what he wanted. That's exactly so it might play
Speaker 1: to your favor if you want to move on after
Speaker 1: twenty three to three year deal. Right, it was a
Speaker 1: four year deal. Yeah, but you in twenty twenty three,
Speaker 1: they've already hit one of the escalators too. You know,
Speaker 1: I think they've triggered one of the extensions too, Like
Speaker 1: like you know, how they do something where they say money,
Speaker 1: but it pads it to the end. I don't honestly
Speaker 1: know that thing's so complicated. But you're right, Brian, and
Speaker 1: you get a new staff in here, because what happens
Speaker 1: is is the new staff. They don't get a new
Speaker 1: quarterback in the first round of the draft, but they
Speaker 1: get one in the third or fourth round that they like,
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's a little different.
Speaker 1: You know, maybe you're in a situation too, Derek. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: you're not getting to talk nothing. No, no, I'm good,
Speaker 1: I'm good. But but but the thing about it is,
Speaker 1: I mean to me, I look at this and if
Speaker 1: you if you if you happen to change offensive staff,
Speaker 1: if you happen to change the coordinator, you change the
Speaker 1: quarterback coach, you change the offensive line coach, you change
Speaker 1: the receiver coach, which they did last year, you know,
Speaker 1: you change all those pieces. Now the evaluation really starts
Speaker 1: because you know, these guys, these coaches probably aren't going anywhere.
Speaker 1: This this quarterback, though, is in a situation now where
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, we're trying to help them, we're trying
Speaker 1: to get players. We've changed the coaches. Now it's more
Speaker 1: about the evaluation of you. And you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: after eight years, you know, we've seen what's going on
Speaker 1: in the league in this day and age. These teams
Speaker 1: are willing to eat huge amounts of salary cap to
Speaker 1: move on from a guy. It used to be like,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, hey, we you know, we gotta
Speaker 1: keep this quarterback. We gotta no, no, no, no. Teams
Speaker 1: are just saying move we'll move on, we'll draft a guy,
Speaker 1: we'll do you know, we'll do whatever we have to do.
Speaker 1: And I'll say this, this is one of the things
Speaker 1: I've been seeing more and more creep up in the
Speaker 1: last twenty four hours less than twenty four hours since
Speaker 1: the game. People are comparing to what the Eagles were
Speaker 1: able to do. The Eagles went to a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and completely flipped their roster, including quarterback and the head coach,
Speaker 1: and now they're back in a championship game and poised
Speaker 1: to go to another super Bowl. And it was because
Speaker 1: they got to a point where they felt like, although
Speaker 1: they had invested a lot in Wentz, they said, he's
Speaker 1: not the guy that can get us there. We got
Speaker 1: to move on. And And then the question becomes, is
Speaker 1: there a point where you have to say, as much
Speaker 1: as you might like Dak and you think Dak is
Speaker 1: good enough, you have to say, well, he's not good
Speaker 1: enough to get us where we want to go. And
Speaker 1: I don't know that they're there yet, but that's the
Speaker 1: kind of things that fans are talking about right now,
Speaker 1: where they're trying to see like at some point, well,
Speaker 1: should they be having that kind of conversation that's not
Speaker 1: gonna happen this year. Yeah, no, it absolutely can't happen.
Speaker 1: They not this year. But my point is like, when
Speaker 1: you get to that point of the of the contract
Speaker 1: where you can make that decision, do you stick with
Speaker 1: it because it's like it's safer to say, we got
Speaker 1: a guy that we think is pretty good, yeah, or
Speaker 1: do you are you willing to say, hey, we got
Speaker 1: to go back to the drawing board to see if
Speaker 1: we can get somebody better. That's why I think twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three is if you do make the changes at
Speaker 1: the at some some of these offensive staff positions, then
Speaker 1: then it turns into Okay, we've made these changes. Now
Speaker 1: we're going to see how the quarterback adapts to the changes.
Speaker 1: And if he doesn't adapt to the changes, then you
Speaker 1: get to that point where you're talking about where it's
Speaker 1: the Carson Wentz or it's the Jared Golf So these
Speaker 1: guys like that where you're like, we're just moving on.
Speaker 1: We're not gonna We're not gonna sit here and continue
Speaker 1: on and we're not going to give him a contract extension,
Speaker 1: and we're gonna look to draft or obtain a quarterback
Speaker 1: from another team, a Derek Carr or somebody like that.
Speaker 1: That's moving on. Yeah. If I if I was the
Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, new offensive coordinator, Kellen Moore or whatever, what
Speaker 1: I would do is I would to me one of
Speaker 1: the biggest plays in series of the game was it
Speaker 1: was nine to nine, huge pass the CD. Now you
Speaker 1: flip the field down. Now you're cooking here. The game
Speaker 1: is nine to nine. They haven't scored a touchdown on you.
Speaker 1: Schultz drops a pass on the on the sideline from
Speaker 1: hell him. Yeah, I mean he. I don't know what
Speaker 1: was going on on the sideline with him, but um
Speaker 1: he dropped that one second down run to Zeke third
Speaker 1: and five. That's where I would say, all right, Dad,
Speaker 1: walked me through this. Do you think that that you're
Speaker 1: gonna make this throw over Warner to CD? Do you
Speaker 1: not see t Y Hilton? Do you not trust yourself
Speaker 1: to throw it to t Y Hilton? Just walk me
Speaker 1: through that, because if you don't think you can make
Speaker 1: that throw, that's a problem. If you didn't see him,
Speaker 1: it's also a problem. And you got to throw it
Speaker 1: high enough that CD can stop. Warner's gonna run into him.
Speaker 1: You're gonna get a PI and all that stuff. I
Speaker 1: Warner is a damn good football player, and Micah Parson
Speaker 1: was mad that he didn't get All Pro, but he
Speaker 1: wasn't as much of a difference maker as Warner wasn't. Then, yeah, well,
Speaker 1: to your point, Nick, you're absolutely right, though, Dak has
Speaker 1: to make that decision quicker because initially that route, if
Speaker 1: he throws the ball out front, it's a it's a
Speaker 1: running it's Warner's not gonna get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: So you're saying it should have been to CD, but no, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm saying if if, if, in fact, if he sees
Speaker 1: he reads the middle of the field completely open and
Speaker 1: they're gonna by the way, but to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: by the way that Warner's hips were chasing CD, he
Speaker 1: should have thrown the ball to to t Y Hilton.
Speaker 1: T Y Hilton because anytime they play that with the
Speaker 1: Tampa two stuff, when you throw the ball opposite of
Speaker 1: if the guy's hips are flipped to one side, throw
Speaker 1: it to the other side. You know that guy's not
Speaker 1: going to come back and make the play, they wouldn't
Speaker 1: have been able to. Ty would have made a big play.
Speaker 1: But if he throws the ball earlier, because there is
Speaker 1: Warner's trying to get from the middle there to get him, Yeah,
Speaker 1: the ball goes out if he just immusiately says I
Speaker 1: read this, I'm throwing it. Here we go. But how
Speaker 1: many times have we seen throws to the middle of
Speaker 1: the field where Dak is like throwing it, throwing it
Speaker 1: and then it's intercepted. It's something happens. So now you're wondering, well,
Speaker 1: is he comfortable even making that throw. He was comfortable.
Speaker 1: It's like he was like waiting for CD to clear,
Speaker 1: and Warner wasn't gonna let him clear, you know, he
Speaker 1: just wasn't. So if you throw the ball sooner, Warner
Speaker 1: is gonna not get there to make the play on
Speaker 1: the ball. And so that I think all the problems
Speaker 1: that Dak has had thrown to the middle of the
Speaker 1: field this year, I think in his mind he's like
Speaker 1: he was like, I'm not sure, I'm not sure. I'm sure.
Speaker 1: Do you think that was maybe a situation where you
Speaker 1: don't see why Hilton was wide open? Yeah? Absolutely, you
Speaker 1: don't expect when you get a matchup saying I got
Speaker 1: my best wide receiver on a linebacker question, I got
Speaker 1: him isolated. Yeah he should uncover. Like could that have
Speaker 1: been a situation where Dak is expecting, Okay, he's gonna uncover,
Speaker 1: like he's gonna uncovered well, and then he's like, oh,
Speaker 1: he's not gonna cover. I'm gonna give him a shot.
Speaker 1: He can throw it. You can see right off the
Speaker 1: line that it's got a shot for a big play
Speaker 1: if because when you watch Lamb he's running and he's
Speaker 1: running like he's gonna expect in the ball. But like
Speaker 1: I say, you gotta take it. You gotta almost throw it.
Speaker 1: You gotta throw it to the spot. You got to
Speaker 1: throw it to the spot and let Lamb just go
Speaker 1: get it is what you do. Instead he's holding it
Speaker 1: and now it's too late, and now Warner, who can
Speaker 1: just run, is now in collision to make the play.
Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's it's one of those things. It's
Speaker 1: like you there's there were so many plays that were
Speaker 1: that felt negative this year. Dak throwing the ball to
Speaker 1: CD in the middle of the field. I wonder if
Speaker 1: that was in his mind about because there was there
Speaker 1: was a past There was a couple of past plays
Speaker 1: after the interception where they had spot routes and stuff
Speaker 1: like that where he throws it past the sticks. It's
Speaker 1: a first down. He didn't throw it because he's thinking, lime,
Speaker 1: I don't see all these red jerseys where, you know,
Speaker 1: and I think it. I think it gets in his head.
Speaker 1: I really really do on some of these throws. All right,
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Speaker 1: yesterday put up a gem of a game. I was
Speaker 1: nick I told you I turn around until told you
Speaker 1: on the plane. If I would have told you on Friday,
Speaker 1: cowboys would hold Deebo Samuel to a total of a
Speaker 1: grand total of fifty six yards, and they would hold
Speaker 1: McCaffrey to a grand total of fifty seven yards. What
Speaker 1: would have been your response to what you thought was
Speaker 1: going to happen in that game? I would have said,
Speaker 1: how did how many of it? Kittle? Which actually is
Speaker 1: the storyline of the game, right, I would have taken
Speaker 1: in that and you know, and just like you would
Speaker 1: have taken the nineteen points, you know, Yeah, I got
Speaker 1: your blockchain for you. Yeah, yah, Yeah, we're we are
Speaker 1: a team here, we work together. Yeah, I did you
Speaker 1: read the other day? Yeah? He gave the good radio
Speaker 1: voice too, did he good radio? Yeah? I bet? Does
Speaker 1: that mean maybe you want to do it all the time?
Speaker 1: You're like, he's probably better than this than me. I'm
Speaker 1: sure you got that Sunday Sunday. Yeah, I know you're right.
Speaker 1: I would have. I would have taken the fifty six
Speaker 1: and fifty five yards from McCaffrey and Samuel and and
Speaker 1: and take your shot there. Now, Kittle was was big,
Speaker 1: but as what I wrote in my story, that the
Speaker 1: difference is is that it's all of the it's all
Speaker 1: of their their weapons, it's McCaffrey on this play. It's
Speaker 1: the threat of Debo, It's the threat of Kittle. I
Speaker 1: mean they when you have a wide receiver who actually
Speaker 1: runs the ball, and a running back who actually catches
Speaker 1: the ball, and a tight end who lines out at
Speaker 1: receiver in a fullback who lines up wherever, you are
Speaker 1: very very dangerous and and that's what they are. And
Speaker 1: you can have a quarterback like Brock Purty who has
Speaker 1: no interest in running, but he can stand back there
Speaker 1: and and make some plays. He didn't make any mistakes.
Speaker 1: He wasn't great. He tried, he tried, but he tried
Speaker 1: to make mistakes. Yeah, he tried. He was solid. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he tried to make some mistakes. I know. I don't
Speaker 1: look at see I don't look at it like Rock
Speaker 1: Purty just beat you. And he was better than Dak.
Speaker 1: I mean he was. They have a better team, that's
Speaker 1: been They have structured a team way better than the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and they went forth. They went forth this year. They
Speaker 1: went for McCaffrey to put them over the top to
Speaker 1: win this type of game, and the Cowboys didn't. The
Speaker 1: Cowboys traded their guy, seriously, they traded their guy, and
Speaker 1: they Mark Cooper and they hoped that Gallup would be good,
Speaker 1: and hope that that Noah Brown would be good and
Speaker 1: CD would take off, and and and it kind of did.
Speaker 1: But I was going to ask you that about and again,
Speaker 1: I totally agree with you about moving on from Amari Cooper.
Speaker 1: But by moving on from Amurray Cooper, did you learn
Speaker 1: that Ceedee Lamb was a number one receiver? I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're if you're looking for a silver lining, you'd
Speaker 1: strayed off? You did, but but you needed a Maury
Speaker 1: Cooper because Michael Gallup was nothing this show. Let me
Speaker 1: throw this out there. I've been thinking about this, Nick,
Speaker 1: you and I had this part of this conversation a
Speaker 1: little earlier. Dak Prescott has not been a turnover machine
Speaker 1: like he has been this year throughout his career. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and I'm starting I'm thinking like what could be the difference?
Speaker 1: And it made me start thinking down the path of
Speaker 1: and this is just conjecture on my part, but could
Speaker 1: this have been a situation where by getting rid of
Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, Essentially what they told Dak is it's on you.
Speaker 1: You're not gonna have the same number of weapons. You're
Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out how to make these tight
Speaker 1: window throws because you're not gonna have guys who are
Speaker 1: just gonna get wide open. You're gonna have to figure
Speaker 1: out how to make it go. And it'll all go
Speaker 1: because you make it go. And as a result of
Speaker 1: and well, but listen, as a result of that, could
Speaker 1: that have been a situation where that's how you get
Speaker 1: to the interceptions. Dak's trying to do more than really
Speaker 1: maybe he's even capable of doing. And we see something
Speaker 1: very different from him than we've seen all these other
Speaker 1: years because he's trying to do something that maybe it's
Speaker 1: just not in the wheelhouse of what he's best at.
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that's not the reasoning, because then
Speaker 1: that would be really dumb on their part because you
Speaker 1: shouldn't know your quarterback. He hasn't shown you necessarily that
Speaker 1: he can be that type of guy to take it
Speaker 1: all on his shoulders. There are times where he can
Speaker 1: make magic happening, as we saw Monday night. Monday Night. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: excellent game, his best game so far, But he hasn't
Speaker 1: shown to be that guy consistently. So for you to
Speaker 1: hope that he can be that guy and take away
Speaker 1: I mean The one thing that we have talked about
Speaker 1: over his career is that he needs help. He needs
Speaker 1: the weapons around him to make it work. He can't
Speaker 1: be that Aaron Rodgers. He can be that Tom Brady
Speaker 1: and his prime. So it's just not that and I
Speaker 1: just I don't get the reasoning behind it. And you
Speaker 1: want to talk about cite lamb. Oh, they wouldn't known
Speaker 1: he's a number one receiver or whatever, but that's what
Speaker 1: you drafted him for. You knew the talent that he
Speaker 1: you knew what he could become. But you know Nick
Speaker 1: mentioning like oh or I forgot who did just now?
Speaker 1: But talking about hoping they can get better along the seasons.
Speaker 1: You know him right off the bat. At the beginning
Speaker 1: of the year, heading into training camp. We were at
Speaker 1: training camp knowing all the little holes, all the issues
Speaker 1: that they had, and still towards the end of the year,
Speaker 1: of the end of the season, there were still the
Speaker 1: things that were in question that we're in fully fixed.
Speaker 1: They started that got ty and then he showed signs
Speaker 1: to be working. But there's just so much that I
Speaker 1: feel that could have been avoided somewhat, or that you
Speaker 1: could have prepared yourself or equipped yourself a lot better
Speaker 1: heading into the season, and I'm very impressed with what
Speaker 1: dan Quinn was able to do. And it breaks my
Speaker 1: heart knowing that ninety nine percent sure he's not gonna
Speaker 1: be here this next year, but looking at when he
Speaker 1: started losing players on defense, there's no way that I
Speaker 1: thought that going into this game playoffs, Divisional round against
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, No way I thought that the
Speaker 1: defense was going to be able to play at this level,
Speaker 1: knowing and looking at how the season ended just those
Speaker 1: last few weeks. Obviously they did well last week, but
Speaker 1: just looking at the injuries, the issues that we were
Speaker 1: talking about with dan Quinn up being able to fix
Speaker 1: all these things in the secondary, cornerback, the issues that
Speaker 1: were there. You're losing so many of your starters, and
Speaker 1: in the space am of a few weeks he was
Speaker 1: able to finally get things to click in again for you.
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just a lot to dissect, but
Speaker 1: you something's got to give. I guess the quicker quote
Speaker 1: unquote faxes by Kellen, Yeah, well it's offensive coaches, and
Speaker 1: maybe it's not. You know, we'll see who's under contract
Speaker 1: and stuff like that too. I think that's some questions
Speaker 1: that we have to ask ourselves. Ass Mike mccurthy, Like
Speaker 1: I said earlier, I do believe there was some disconnect
Speaker 1: between him and Kellen on some things and maybe Mike
Speaker 1: had to say, listen, I want to do it this way,
Speaker 1: and Kellen's like, oh, okay, well then we'll do it
Speaker 1: and we'll see. So um, you know, I if Kellen
Speaker 1: Moore gets an opportunity, that's one way of taking care
Speaker 1: of that, you know. If if you know, but I
Speaker 1: have a feeling there's going to be some coaches on
Speaker 1: the staff or they're going to tell him listen, if
Speaker 1: you want to go hunt a job, go hunt a job,
Speaker 1: you know, and we'll see if the offensive coaches, but
Speaker 1: the major one would be Kellen Moore, that would be
Speaker 1: the major one, because that's now the evaluation that you've determined,
Speaker 1: like okay, we're going to move on from him. Now
Speaker 1: we're going to change. It. Could very well be Brian Schottenheimer,
Speaker 1: who they have here on staff as being the OC.
Speaker 1: I think to me personally, if they go outside or
Speaker 1: they go for an OC, they need to go for
Speaker 1: the dan Quinn plan, go for somebody that's outside Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn wasn't an insider here for the Cowboys. Dan Quinn
Speaker 1: was a guy that was a you know, I don't
Speaker 1: think Mike McCarthy had any great relationship with Dan Quinn.
Speaker 1: Maybe you could do the same thing with one of
Speaker 1: these coordinators, you know. I mean, there's several of these
Speaker 1: head coaches that have been relieved of their jobs are
Speaker 1: now out there, and so they thoughts on a guy
Speaker 1: like Nathaniel Hackett. See, that's the thing, there's a connection
Speaker 1: because again, Mike McCarthy worked for Hackett's dad. You know,
Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer. He worked for Schottenheimer's dad. You know, maybe
Speaker 1: you're in a situation where it's you know, Frank Reich
Speaker 1: or Cliff Kingsbury or somebody, you know, somebody your thinking offense,
Speaker 1: Your thing can kind of a wide open kind of
Speaker 1: a thing. You know. Maybe I'm just throwing names. I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't mean to sit there and like everybody throwing
Speaker 1: up in their mouth when I'm talking about these guys.
Speaker 1: But there's been some head coaches that have been let go,
Speaker 1: and there's a reason why a lot of those guys
Speaker 1: got the opportunity they got, particularly anything, I mean, Daniel
Speaker 1: Hackett was doing a good job as a coordinator. That's
Speaker 1: why he got the opportunity to head coach. And maybe
Speaker 1: he's just not a good head coach, but he certainly
Speaker 1: has some skins on the walls and off there's no question.
Speaker 1: And again that fis for us now. But that's I
Speaker 1: don't know who can right now. That's familiarity. That that
Speaker 1: to my point, it's if you take somebody that's not
Speaker 1: part of this guy helped his father, helped me get
Speaker 1: a job. Guy, Yeah, you know that's that's and and
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett might be a great hire. But I to me,
Speaker 1: I'm now connecting things. You how to divide fault or
Speaker 1: like what percentage would you give Kellen versus Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: if we don't know that, because what we don't know
Speaker 1: is I don't know how much much is Mike involved
Speaker 1: in the game planning? Yeah, and during the game is
Speaker 1: he in his ear saying hey, I need a little
Speaker 1: more of this or I need a little less of this,
Speaker 1: and he's he's not a good idea, Let's do something different, right,
Speaker 1: I don't know, and none of us That's what I
Speaker 1: wonder though, because here we are just like oh, Kellen,
Speaker 1: Kelly and Kellen. But it does make me wonder, Okay,
Speaker 1: how much is it actually Mike McCarthy's fault as well?
Speaker 1: Obviously he's a head coach, he has some well, so
Speaker 1: the buck hasn't stop. Yeah, so he's like, Okay, is
Speaker 1: it Mike McCarthy and what he's doing, or is it
Speaker 1: you get rid of the offensive coordinator? See what happens
Speaker 1: to the fact that they've won thirteen games or fourteen?
Speaker 1: With thirteen games, is now that the head coach has
Speaker 1: probably saved himself. Yeah, so now it's not about the
Speaker 1: head coach, and the head coach can say I everything.
Speaker 1: We'll know if they get rid of Kellen Moore, if
Speaker 1: they move on from Kellen Moore, then that's a decision
Speaker 1: by Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy, and then then we'll say
Speaker 1: how much do you want to blame? He's Mike McCarthy's thinking.
Speaker 1: I try, I had to tell you what I wanted
Speaker 1: to do, and we did this. Okay, I allowed it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna allow it anymore. Do you think Jerry
Speaker 1: has the decision to make on let Kelly, let Dan
Speaker 1: Quinn leave, or make him the head coach. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna come out and say it. I'm too tired to
Speaker 1: dance around. Do you think that that should even be
Speaker 1: on the table. I don't think it is on the
Speaker 1: table personally. And the reason why I don't is because
Speaker 1: I think Jerry's looking at this and saying, Mike McCarthy
Speaker 1: got me twelve wins last year, Mike McCarthy got McCarthy
Speaker 1: got me thirteen wins this year. I don't think my
Speaker 1: head coach is the problem. But he also got you
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan as the defensive coordinator to the first year,
Speaker 1: and then Jim tom and has been one and one
Speaker 1: in two in the playoffs. So yes, I get all that. Now,
Speaker 1: you can depends on who wants to argue which side
Speaker 1: in the room on the debate team, which I wouldn't
Speaker 1: want to, you know, debate with you since you're an
Speaker 1: all state debater in high school, which is true, but
Speaker 1: does can can any defensive coordinator worth his salt come
Speaker 1: in here and take Michael Parsons and and be good
Speaker 1: with it? You know, and like I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know what we're going to find out. Probably don't know.
Speaker 1: So that's that. That's the decision, and I think I
Speaker 1: think that's something that Jerry is has to think about.
Speaker 1: And again, this isn't mean knowing anything. I believe Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy will be the head coach next year, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be easy to say bye
Speaker 1: to Dan Quinn if if in fair, I don't I
Speaker 1: agree with you on that. I think the thing that
Speaker 1: you have to now in your line of thinking is
Speaker 1: if you ask Dan Quinn, if I hire you as
Speaker 1: the head coach, who's your OC. That's the question you
Speaker 1: now have to ask, because if you have an understanding like, Okay,
Speaker 1: who's Mike McCarthy going to bring in here as an OC? Potentially? Okay,
Speaker 1: who's Dan? Dan? Who do you got if you were
Speaker 1: if I were to give you this job, who would
Speaker 1: you bring in as NOC? Now? Will and Steven have
Speaker 1: to sit down and say, all right, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: With Dan, we get this, we get our defense. But
Speaker 1: he's got a better coordinator idea than the head coach
Speaker 1: than the current head coaching. Jerry Jones is open to
Speaker 1: have that kind of interview with then Quinn. I think
Speaker 1: he's paying Dan Quinn like he's a head coach right
Speaker 1: now to be honest with you, I don't think there's
Speaker 1: anything Jerry's not willing to at least think about. Like
Speaker 1: I think he's probably thinking about everything. But but I'll
Speaker 1: also throw this out there into this mix. Are we
Speaker 1: sure that let's assume for a second, let's go way
Speaker 1: out on a limb and assume that they make the
Speaker 1: decision we'd rather keep dan Quinn and they keep him.
Speaker 1: What makes us believe that as the head coach, this
Speaker 1: defense is still gonna be as good as it was
Speaker 1: when he was the guy that was over the defense,
Speaker 1: Like when he was in Atlanta, that defense is pretty
Speaker 1: good the first year. It got progressively worse over the years.
Speaker 1: And so it does make me wonder, like, if you're
Speaker 1: the head coach, you're not pouring as much time into
Speaker 1: the defense. You're certainly probably not calling the plays on
Speaker 1: game day, and so you're still not getting the benefit
Speaker 1: of dan Quinn is your defensive coordinator, he's your head coach.
Speaker 1: That's a different role. He called the plays when they
Speaker 1: were in New Orleans that time, when that the COVID
Speaker 1: game with Mike McCarthy, when he was the head coach,
Speaker 1: they won the game in New Orleans against against trist
Speaker 1: Is it Hillo Hill, Taysom Hill. Yeah, said Tristan Hill,
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. Dan was on the sidelines calling defense just
Speaker 1: that that time, just that time. Yeah, you know, is
Speaker 1: it one of those things. I mean we've seen We've
Speaker 1: seen guys like, I know, the guy at New Orleans,
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen. You know, Now, maybe it's a thing where
Speaker 1: you trust Joe Wit to be that guy. If you're
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, You're like, listen, I trust Joe. I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna let Joe mess Joe. What do you got? What
Speaker 1: do you Joe? What do you know? Joe? Don't go
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, think about this one, you know. I
Speaker 1: mean maybe that's what maybe learned something from his time
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I think helps. Yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: think so. I I think it didn't have Michael Parsons
Speaker 1: and Trey Von Diggs. I think it's something if you're
Speaker 1: if you're Jerry Jones, you absolutely have to consider because
Speaker 1: to me, you want to know, the number one thing
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this offseason is fixing Dak Prescott. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's the number one thing I'm thinking about. So every
Speaker 1: decision has to every decision has to be whether you
Speaker 1: hire a defensive head coach and dan Quinn, who's the OC?
Speaker 1: What other staff are we going to bring in here?
Speaker 1: You know that? Or if you're Mike McCarthy, all right, Mike, listen,
Speaker 1: congratulations had a nice year. Who do you want as
Speaker 1: your OC? And tell me why you want? And tell
Speaker 1: me why and how you're going to not how you're
Speaker 1: going to fix four from some of the deficiencies he's shown.
Speaker 1: And if they decide, if Gerry decides that he does
Speaker 1: want to go that route and get let say you
Speaker 1: get dan Quinn. It wouldn't be right away because he'll
Speaker 1: lose draft picks if he doesn't do it. He's got
Speaker 1: a he's got an interview, he's an interviewed minority candidates.
Speaker 1: He's got it. You know what he's like. I don't. Now.
Speaker 1: You can wink, wink and say, Hank tie, it's coming
Speaker 1: back to you, but I mean, that's not the spirit
Speaker 1: of the rule, and not at all. I wouldn't think
Speaker 1: that they would do that. And so you know, and
Speaker 1: I mean, since it's being talked, I've already been asked
Speaker 1: twice this morning and I've barely even been awake for
Speaker 1: a long enough for it but I do not believe
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is in play here. No, I don't think
Speaker 1: he has either need cheap superstars, and the only way
Speaker 1: you get cheap superstars is if you draft them. So
Speaker 1: I don't know why you would want to get a
Speaker 1: Sean Payton in here, whose resume I don't think is
Speaker 1: any better than McCarthy's to come in here and lose
Speaker 1: a first round pick. It is not talking about a
Speaker 1: conditional six. This is a first round pick. No, thank you. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing about I think with Sean is to me
Speaker 1: that and maybe the bridges. I'm not saying we're burned,
Speaker 1: but you know, there's such a friendship there and stuff
Speaker 1: like that. I think that maybe Jerry's kind of moved
Speaker 1: on from that. Just listening to people talk. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm friends with Sean. I have not talked
Speaker 1: to Sean one day about this job. Now he's yelled
Speaker 1: at me for talking about this job while others are
Speaker 1: still having jobs. But I have not talked to Sean
Speaker 1: about this particular job in a while. I'll say this though,
Speaker 1: I would be absolutely shocked at this point if anybody
Speaker 1: other than Mike McCarthy is a head coach of this team,
Speaker 1: make I wouldn't. I don't see any reason why Jerry
Speaker 1: would have gone out there and been so emphatic yesterday
Speaker 1: and the time he was asked before yesterday about Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy's job security, Like he would have just been like,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll look at everything. There's no reason why
Speaker 1: you and we're like Odell and well but they but
Speaker 1: the point is the point with Odell, like they wanted O'Dell.
Speaker 1: Let's not make any mistakes about like they wanted O'Dell.
Speaker 1: It just once they finally got a chance to look
Speaker 1: at him, they were like, who, you're healthy and maybe
Speaker 1: he's not the guy, right. So I don't think it's
Speaker 1: a matter if Jerry didn't want him. I think he
Speaker 1: was very clear about that. I just think this was
Speaker 1: a situation where he is saying emphatically because I think
Speaker 1: he believes Mike earned the ability to stay here for
Speaker 1: another year. And I think I would just be shocked
Speaker 1: if they do anything different this year that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: anything for future years. This year, I would be shocked.
Speaker 1: You know. It's ironic is that when we go back
Speaker 1: six weeks, we were when we were all knee deep
Speaker 1: in the Odell stuff like thought it was happening, And Brian,
Speaker 1: you kept saying, you know, in the playoffs on third down,
Speaker 1: third and four, is he gonna make your play? Damn?
Speaker 1: Did he wish he was? You had somebody that can
Speaker 1: make a play, And now I know it wasn't him.
Speaker 1: He wasn't healthy any and a lot of the reason
Speaker 1: he wasn't healthy, it's because of Odell. Odell didn't commit
Speaker 1: to his rehab like he should have. Well, like like
Speaker 1: like he needed to, not should have. You can do
Speaker 1: whatever you want, your grown man, but like he needed
Speaker 1: to to be able to play. They have they have
Speaker 1: a decision about the running back to that running back
Speaker 1: might be done. He's already moved to center. I really
Speaker 1: hope that's not the final play of his Cowboy career,
Speaker 1: getting trucked at the center position. But I do agree
Speaker 1: with you, Brian, like there's no way your lead running back,
Speaker 1: which he still is, your starting running back, there's no
Speaker 1: way you lose your backup. And we know I know
Speaker 1: what Tony Pollo brings this team. I get that, but
Speaker 1: there's no way you lose that guy. Your starter is
Speaker 1: still in the game, and your offense just can't go anywhere,
Speaker 1: cannot move the ball. And there were a number of
Speaker 1: runs Nick, you and I were talking about in the game,
Speaker 1: or number of runs where you're looking at him, you're like, man,
Speaker 1: Zeke got one or two, maybe three, Polly would have
Speaker 1: gotten eighty. He just doesn't have that. He doesn't seem
Speaker 1: to have that first decision if and the one thing.
Speaker 1: And hopefully we'll have the draft show coming up here
Speaker 1: in a few days or so. But there's plenty of
Speaker 1: running backs in the sea. You go, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of running backs, and it's and it's hey, go out
Speaker 1: there and if you want to, you know, if you
Speaker 1: want to figure it out, if you if Pollard leaves
Speaker 1: and Zeke moves on and all that, you will have opportunities.
Speaker 1: You really really Pollard, Yeah, Pollard is a different situation now,
Speaker 1: polar Yeah, everything changed. I think broken leg, I mean
Speaker 1: broken uh fibula three months? Three months? Three months? So
Speaker 1: let's say until what that's yeah, that's what they say,
Speaker 1: it's a three month rehab thing. Well then then maybe
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a broken fibula. Is that? What is that?
Speaker 1: That's what they called it, But they said it was
Speaker 1: a three month thing. Three month I mean by April,
Speaker 1: he would be ready to what resumed flack ativity. So
Speaker 1: that means he's here for most of the offseason workouts. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna be rehabbing the whole time. Decisions You
Speaker 1: got to make decisions on him in March. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but what we but what we know about this team,
Speaker 1: they're not afraid to do it with an injured guy,
Speaker 1: like you franchise him. I wouldn't. I wouldn't, but I'm
Speaker 1: not saying I don't three million dollars. I would not.
Speaker 1: I would win. He won't. He may not be himself
Speaker 1: that that whole year. And my thing is just like
Speaker 1: running backs, you can get them, man, there are there
Speaker 1: are so many running backs in this league that coming
Speaker 1: every round of the draft, Like you can get quality
Speaker 1: running backs and and bring them in here and get
Speaker 1: them to play. I just look at that, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the well and quite frankly, every
Speaker 1: two years I would be drafted, I will, and he
Speaker 1: just keep it rotating. The kid at Texas be Jean Robinson,
Speaker 1: regardless of positions, one of the best players I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: He's a he is a ball. Seriously, I don't know
Speaker 1: that honestly in the time that I've been a Texas fan,
Speaker 1: and I don't know that even and I'll even go,
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound crazy, Ricky even looking at Ricky,
Speaker 1: like watching Bejon is a different beast, Like I am
Speaker 1: afraid that we're not gonna have him next year, Like
Speaker 1: I'm that is that is terrifying to me because as
Speaker 1: bad as we were at times this year, Beijean still Bijon,
Speaker 1: like he just he has a way doing some amazing things.
Speaker 1: Campbell that was a little bit before my fandom. You
Speaker 1: guys are so cut through, and you know, and I
Speaker 1: am too sometimes, but it's about to say, like who's
Speaker 1: probably who probably on this show? Open the show right,
Speaker 1: like I have nothing to say, like you, I'm afraid
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cuss. Yes you switch to Spanish. Um no,
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, yes, I am cut throw but
Speaker 1: at the same time time in a sports way, feelings
Speaker 1: and I'm a very sentimental emotional person and it just
Speaker 1: it sucks because I love Zeke, but it sucks every
Speaker 1: once we got to this point where you know, you
Speaker 1: got to move on from somebody and then you couldn't
Speaker 1: get where you wanted to get. With the people you
Speaker 1: were in and like hanging in there these people. Tyren Smith,
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna I think that's it for him as well.
Speaker 1: Sack Mary. I'm sure he's gonna still be here possibly,
Speaker 1: But you talked about like just kind of getting a
Speaker 1: new roster every year, and it happens you're never gonna
Speaker 1: have the same team year after year. That that's that's
Speaker 1: gonna happen, but it just sucks us. Huh might keep
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith? I think I might too. What I saw
Speaker 1: at t Smith and Smith on the left side, and
Speaker 1: they go back with the group you originally thought you
Speaker 1: were gonna go with. Okay, Now, now here's here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not bidding on the fact he's gonna stay healthy. Sure,
Speaker 1: that's the part where you better have all Right, we
Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys, Jones. We'll be back tomorrow, and tomorrow
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get a little more into this.
Speaker 1: Where do they go next? Because there's so many questions
Speaker 1: there on with all the free agents and and all
Speaker 1: the players that we know will be will have the
Speaker 1: opportunity to go other places. Where should the Cowboys be
Speaker 1: looking to improve this team and get better we'll talk
Speaker 1: about that tomorrow for Nick Keepman. Brian brought us Amber
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