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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com with Nick Eatman, Brian brought Us and

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Speaker 1: bar Garcia and Derek Eagleton. It is Monday, January twenty third,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Season eighteen, Episode number one twelve. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the latest edition of The Break. We're Alive from

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Speaker 1: Milli like the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys and Man,

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Speaker 1: today we gotta do what we've done before. This is

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Speaker 1: not new for US Cowboys. Season ends last night. They

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Speaker 1: lose to the San Francisco forty nine. There's nineteen to twelve,

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Speaker 1: eliminating them from the playoffs at the divisional round. And

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Speaker 1: today we'll tell you what we think went right and

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Speaker 1: wrong for this team and maybe get a little bit

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Speaker 1: probably more tomorrow get into what this really means, because

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Speaker 1: I think there's so many offshoots from this game. When

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Speaker 1: you start thinking about what this means for this franchise

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Speaker 1: and what this means for this team and all the

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Speaker 1: players that are on this team. But let's start first.

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Speaker 1: There are so many things that happened in that game.

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Speaker 1: If you could kind of crystallize it into kind of

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Speaker 1: one thing, what is the enduring memory you'll have years

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Speaker 1: from now about the game against the forty nine Ers

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Speaker 1: in the Divisional round of playoffs in twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 1: Nick forty nine ers were a really good team. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys on this day were a pretty good team. I

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Speaker 1: mean I thought their defense was not as good as

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Speaker 1: though as the forty nine ers. I think their offense

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Speaker 1: was close in all three and that's why the game

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Speaker 1: was close at the end of the day. I think

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Speaker 1: the forty nine just had more playmakers that made more plays,

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Speaker 1: a game of missed opportunities. I really do. I feel

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Speaker 1: like though that there were some. You know, we went

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Speaker 1: were going to have to deal with, talking to coaches,

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Speaker 1: how do you attack, how do you do this? How

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Speaker 1: do you do that? You know? It really it really

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Speaker 1: kind of comes down to, you know, their ability to

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Speaker 1: You know, whether it's you get a you know, you

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Speaker 1: you know, you you know, you had an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: where there's defenders. You know, I just you know, it's

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Speaker 1: it's not about playing the perfect game, but it's about

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Speaker 1: when the opportunities that you have to make plays, you

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Speaker 1: got to capitalize on those. I mean, I know, watching

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Speaker 1: I was worried about Nick Bosa and how he could

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Speaker 1: affect the game. Nick Bosa affected you on three plays

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Speaker 1: and then what happens again is you know then and Bosa,

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Speaker 1: It's when these players that when you have an opportunity

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Speaker 1: forty nine Ers were being nasty. And people may say, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: And but if you're gonna be nasty, all right, let's

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Speaker 1: talking about how much talent they had, and knowing that

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Speaker 1: it wasn't in their destined once again, but at least

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Speaker 1: have a talented team, but it's just finding consistency has

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Speaker 1: like you're down a touchdown, and I'd already meant, Nick

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Speaker 1: This is where you drive your team down three minutes

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Speaker 1: if I'm the head coach, I'm giving him the ball

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Speaker 1: and I'm saying, get in the freaking end zone and

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about Dak. His numbers twenty three to thirty seven,

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of passes that he left on the table.

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Speaker 1: I'm not putting all of it on him, but but

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Speaker 1: this guy. Is he mentally tough? The forty nine ers

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Speaker 1: for the season, because for the game because he gets

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Speaker 1: throwing wide now to CD, I think it changed their

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Speaker 1: extra point that was not only blocked, but that thing

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Speaker 1: was nine to nine, huge pass the CD. Now you

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Speaker 1: flip the field down. Now you're cooking here. The game

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Speaker 1: is nine to nine. They haven't scored a touchdown on you.

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Speaker 1: Schultz drops a pass on the on the sideline from

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Speaker 1: hell him. Yeah, I mean he. I don't know what

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Speaker 1: was going on on the sideline with him, but um

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Speaker 1: he dropped that one second down run to Zeke third

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Speaker 1: and five. That's where I would say, all right, Dad,

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Speaker 1: walked me through this. Do you think that that you're

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Speaker 1: gonna make this throw over Warner to CD? Do you

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Speaker 1: not see t Y Hilton? Do you not trust yourself

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Speaker 1: to throw it to t Y Hilton? Just walk me

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Speaker 1: through that, because if you don't think you can make

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Speaker 1: that throw, that's a problem. If you didn't see him,

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Speaker 1: it's also a problem. And you got to throw it

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Speaker 1: high enough that CD can stop. Warner's gonna run into him.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna get a PI and all that stuff. I

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Speaker 1: Warner is a damn good football player, and Micah Parson

446
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Speaker 1: was mad that he didn't get All Pro, but he

447
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Speaker 1: wasn't as much of a difference maker as Warner wasn't. Then, yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: to your point, Nick, you're absolutely right, though, Dak has

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Speaker 1: to make that decision quicker because initially that route, if

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Speaker 1: he throws the ball out front, it's a it's a

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Speaker 1: running it's Warner's not gonna get that. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: So you're saying it should have been to CD, but no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying if if, if, in fact, if he sees

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Speaker 1: he reads the middle of the field completely open and

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Speaker 1: they're gonna by the way, but to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: by the way that Warner's hips were chasing CD, he

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Speaker 1: should have thrown the ball to to t Y Hilton.

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Speaker 1: T Y Hilton because anytime they play that with the

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Speaker 1: Tampa two stuff, when you throw the ball opposite of

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Speaker 1: if the guy's hips are flipped to one side, throw

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Speaker 1: it to the other side. You know that guy's not

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Speaker 1: going to come back and make the play, they wouldn't

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Speaker 1: have been able to. Ty would have made a big play.

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Speaker 1: But if he throws the ball earlier, because there is

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Speaker 1: Warner's trying to get from the middle there to get him, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the ball goes out if he just immusiately says I

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Speaker 1: read this, I'm throwing it. Here we go. But how

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Speaker 1: many times have we seen throws to the middle of

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Speaker 1: the field where Dak is like throwing it, throwing it

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Speaker 1: and then it's intercepted. It's something happens. So now you're wondering, well,

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Speaker 1: is he comfortable even making that throw. He was comfortable.

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Speaker 1: It's like he was like waiting for CD to clear,

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Speaker 1: and Warner wasn't gonna let him clear, you know, he

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Speaker 1: just wasn't. So if you throw the ball sooner, Warner

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Speaker 1: is gonna not get there to make the play on

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Speaker 1: the ball. And so that I think all the problems

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Speaker 1: that Dak has had thrown to the middle of the

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Speaker 1: field this year, I think in his mind he's like

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Speaker 1: he was like, I'm not sure, I'm not sure. I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that was maybe a situation where you

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Speaker 1: don't see why Hilton was wide open? Yeah? Absolutely, you

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Speaker 1: don't expect when you get a matchup saying I got

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Speaker 1: him isolated. Yeah he should uncover. Like could that have

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Speaker 1: been a situation where Dak is expecting, Okay, he's gonna uncover,

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Speaker 1: like he's gonna uncovered well, and then he's like, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's not gonna cover. I'm gonna give him a shot.

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Speaker 1: He can throw it. You can see right off the

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Speaker 1: line that it's got a shot for a big play

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Speaker 1: if because when you watch Lamb he's running and he's

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Speaker 1: running like he's gonna expect in the ball. But like

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Speaker 1: I say, you gotta take it. You gotta almost throw it.

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Speaker 1: You gotta throw it to the spot. You got to

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Speaker 1: throw it to the spot and let Lamb just go

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Speaker 1: get it is what you do. Instead he's holding it

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Speaker 1: and now it's too late, and now Warner, who can

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Speaker 1: just run, is now in collision to make the play.

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Speaker 1: And so yeah, it's it's one of those things. It's

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Speaker 1: like you there's there were so many plays that were

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Speaker 1: that felt negative this year. Dak throwing the ball to

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Speaker 1: CD in the middle of the field. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: that was in his mind about because there was there

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Speaker 1: was a past There was a couple of past plays

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Speaker 1: after the interception where they had spot routes and stuff

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Speaker 1: like that where he throws it past the sticks. It's

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Speaker 1: a first down. He didn't throw it because he's thinking, lime,

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Speaker 1: I don't see all these red jerseys where, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I think it. I think it gets in his head.

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Speaker 1: I really really do on some of these throws. All right,

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Speaker 1: nick I told you I turn around until told you

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Speaker 1: cowboys would hold Deebo Samuel to a total of a

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Speaker 1: grand total of fifty six yards, and they would hold

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey to a grand total of fifty seven yards. What

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Speaker 1: would have been your response to what you thought was

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Speaker 1: going to happen in that game? I would have said,

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Speaker 1: how did how many of it? Kittle? Which actually is

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Speaker 1: the storyline of the game, right, I would have taken

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Speaker 1: in that and you know, and just like you would

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Speaker 1: have taken the nineteen points, you know, Yeah, I got

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Speaker 1: your blockchain for you. Yeah, yah, Yeah, we're we are

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Speaker 1: a team here, we work together. Yeah, I did you

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Speaker 1: read the other day? Yeah? He gave the good radio

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Speaker 1: voice too, did he good radio? Yeah? I bet? Does

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Speaker 1: that mean maybe you want to do it all the time?

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Speaker 1: You're like, he's probably better than this than me. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure you got that Sunday Sunday. Yeah, I know you're right.

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Speaker 1: I would have. I would have taken the fifty six

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Speaker 1: and fifty five yards from McCaffrey and Samuel and and

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Speaker 1: and take your shot there. Now, Kittle was was big,

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Speaker 1: but as what I wrote in my story, that the

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Speaker 1: difference is is that it's all of the it's all

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Speaker 1: of their their weapons, it's McCaffrey on this play. It's

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Speaker 1: the threat of Debo, It's the threat of Kittle. I

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Speaker 1: mean they when you have a wide receiver who actually

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Speaker 1: runs the ball, and a running back who actually catches

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Speaker 1: the ball, and a tight end who lines out at

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Speaker 1: receiver in a fullback who lines up wherever, you are

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Speaker 1: very very dangerous and and that's what they are. And

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Speaker 1: you can have a quarterback like Brock Purty who has

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Speaker 1: no interest in running, but he can stand back there

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Speaker 1: and and make some plays. He didn't make any mistakes.

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Speaker 1: He wasn't great. He tried, he tried, but he tried

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Speaker 1: to make mistakes. Yeah, he tried. He was solid. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he tried to make some mistakes. I know. I don't

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Speaker 1: look at see I don't look at it like Rock

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Speaker 1: Purty just beat you. And he was better than Dak.

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Speaker 1: I mean he was. They have a better team, that's

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Speaker 1: been They have structured a team way better than the Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: and they went forth. They went forth this year. They

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Speaker 1: went for McCaffrey to put them over the top to

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Speaker 1: win this type of game, and the Cowboys didn't. The

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Speaker 1: Cowboys traded their guy, seriously, they traded their guy, and

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Speaker 1: they Mark Cooper and they hoped that Gallup would be good,

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Speaker 1: and hope that that Noah Brown would be good and

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Speaker 1: CD would take off, and and and it kind of did.

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Speaker 1: But I was going to ask you that about and again,

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Speaker 1: I totally agree with you about moving on from Amari Cooper.

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Speaker 1: But by moving on from Amurray Cooper, did you learn

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Speaker 1: that Ceedee Lamb was a number one receiver? I mean,

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Speaker 1: if you're if you're looking for a silver lining, you'd

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Speaker 1: strayed off? You did, but but you needed a Maury

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Speaker 1: Cooper because Michael Gallup was nothing this show. Let me

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Speaker 1: throw this out there. I've been thinking about this, Nick,

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Speaker 1: you and I had this part of this conversation a

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Speaker 1: little earlier. Dak Prescott has not been a turnover machine

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Speaker 1: like he has been this year throughout his career. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I'm starting I'm thinking like what could be the difference?

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Speaker 1: And it made me start thinking down the path of

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Speaker 1: and this is just conjecture on my part, but could

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Speaker 1: this have been a situation where by getting rid of

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Speaker 1: Amari Cooper, Essentially what they told Dak is it's on you.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna have the same number of weapons. You're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to figure out how to make these tight

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Speaker 1: window throws because you're not gonna have guys who are

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Speaker 1: just gonna get wide open. You're gonna have to figure

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Speaker 1: out how to make it go. And it'll all go

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Speaker 1: because you make it go. And as a result of

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Speaker 1: and well, but listen, as a result of that, could

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Speaker 1: that have been a situation where that's how you get

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Speaker 1: to the interceptions. Dak's trying to do more than really

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Speaker 1: maybe he's even capable of doing. And we see something

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Speaker 1: very different from him than we've seen all these other

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Speaker 1: years because he's trying to do something that maybe it's

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Speaker 1: I mean, I hope that's not the reasoning, because then

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Speaker 1: that would be really dumb on their part because you

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Speaker 1: he can be that type of guy to take it

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Speaker 1: all on his shoulders. There are times where he can

641
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: make magic happening, as we saw Monday night. Monday Night. Yes, yeah,

642
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,959
Speaker 1: excellent game, his best game so far, But he hasn't

643
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: shown to be that guy consistently. So for you to

644
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: hope that he can be that guy and take away

645
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,320
Speaker 1: I mean The one thing that we have talked about

646
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: over his career is that he needs help. He needs

647
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 1: the weapons around him to make it work. He can't

648
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,400
Speaker 1: be that Aaron Rodgers. He can be that Tom Brady

649
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: and his prime. So it's just not that and I

650
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 1: just I don't get the reasoning behind it. And you

651
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:22,080
Speaker 1: want to talk about cite lamb. Oh, they wouldn't known

652
00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: he's a number one receiver or whatever, but that's what

653
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: you drafted him for. You knew the talent that he

654
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: you knew what he could become. But you know Nick

655
00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:36,320
Speaker 1: mentioning like oh or I forgot who did just now?

656
00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: But talking about hoping they can get better along the seasons.

657
00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: You know him right off the bat. At the beginning

658
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 1: of the year, heading into training camp. We were at

659
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: training camp knowing all the little holes, all the issues

660
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 1: that they had, and still towards the end of the year,

661
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: of the end of the season, there were still the

662
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,760
Speaker 1: things that were in question that we're in fully fixed.

663
00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,600
Speaker 1: They started that got ty and then he showed signs

664
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: to be working. But there's just so much that I

665
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: feel that could have been avoided somewhat, or that you

666
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: could have prepared yourself or equipped yourself a lot better

667
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,960
Speaker 1: heading into the season, and I'm very impressed with what

668
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: dan Quinn was able to do. And it breaks my

669
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 1: heart knowing that ninety nine percent sure he's not gonna

670
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: be here this next year, but looking at when he

671
00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: started losing players on defense, there's no way that I

672
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: thought that going into this game playoffs, Divisional round against

673
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, No way I thought that the

674
00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 1: defense was going to be able to play at this level,

675
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: knowing and looking at how the season ended just those

676
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,240
Speaker 1: last few weeks. Obviously they did well last week, but

677
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: just looking at the injuries, the issues that we were

678
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: talking about with dan Quinn up being able to fix

679
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: all these things in the secondary, cornerback, the issues that

680
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 1: were there. You're losing so many of your starters, and

681
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: in the space am of a few weeks he was

682
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 1: able to finally get things to click in again for you.

683
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: So it's just it's just a lot to dissect, but

684
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: you something's got to give. I guess the quicker quote

685
00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: unquote faxes by Kellen, Yeah, well it's offensive coaches, and

686
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,480
Speaker 1: maybe it's not. You know, we'll see who's under contract

687
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 1: and stuff like that too. I think that's some questions

688
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: that we have to ask ourselves. Ass Mike mccurthy, Like

689
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: I said earlier, I do believe there was some disconnect

690
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: between him and Kellen on some things and maybe Mike

691
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: had to say, listen, I want to do it this way,

692
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: and Kellen's like, oh, okay, well then we'll do it

693
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,000
Speaker 1: and we'll see. So um, you know, I if Kellen

694
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Moore gets an opportunity, that's one way of taking care

695
00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: of that, you know. If if you know, but I

696
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: have a feeling there's going to be some coaches on

697
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:50,279
Speaker 1: the staff or they're going to tell him listen, if

698
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:51,960
Speaker 1: you want to go hunt a job, go hunt a job,

699
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 1: you know, and we'll see if the offensive coaches, but

700
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: the major one would be Kellen Moore, that would be

701
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,720
Speaker 1: the major one, because that's now the evaluation that you've determined,

702
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: like okay, we're going to move on from him. Now

703
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 1: we're going to change. It. Could very well be Brian Schottenheimer,

704
00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,920
Speaker 1: who they have here on staff as being the OC.

705
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: I think to me personally, if they go outside or

706
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,840
Speaker 1: they go for an OC, they need to go for

707
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:18,799
Speaker 1: the dan Quinn plan, go for somebody that's outside Dan

708
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 1: Quinn wasn't an insider here for the Cowboys. Dan Quinn

709
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: was a guy that was a you know, I don't

710
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 1: think Mike McCarthy had any great relationship with Dan Quinn.

711
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 1: Maybe you could do the same thing with one of

712
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: these coordinators, you know. I mean, there's several of these

713
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: head coaches that have been relieved of their jobs are

714
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 1: now out there, and so they thoughts on a guy

715
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: like Nathaniel Hackett. See, that's the thing, there's a connection

716
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 1: because again, Mike McCarthy worked for Hackett's dad. You know,

717
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,919
Speaker 1: Brian Schottenheimer. He worked for Schottenheimer's dad. You know, maybe

718
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,120
Speaker 1: you're in a situation where it's you know, Frank Reich

719
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 1: or Cliff Kingsbury or somebody, you know, somebody your thinking offense,

720
00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,560
Speaker 1: Your thing can kind of a wide open kind of

721
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,919
Speaker 1: a thing. You know. Maybe I'm just throwing names. I don't.

722
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,280
Speaker 1: I don't mean to sit there and like everybody throwing

723
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,399
Speaker 1: up in their mouth when I'm talking about these guys.

724
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: But there's been some head coaches that have been let go,

725
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: and there's a reason why a lot of those guys

726
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 1: got the opportunity they got, particularly anything, I mean, Daniel

727
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,719
Speaker 1: Hackett was doing a good job as a coordinator. That's

728
00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: why he got the opportunity to head coach. And maybe

729
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: he's just not a good head coach, but he certainly

730
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: has some skins on the walls and off there's no question.

731
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: And again that fis for us now. But that's I

732
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: don't know who can right now. That's familiarity. That that

733
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:33,640
Speaker 1: to my point, it's if you take somebody that's not

734
00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: part of this guy helped his father, helped me get

735
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: a job. Guy, Yeah, you know that's that's and and

736
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: Nathaniel Hackett might be a great hire. But I to me,

737
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: I'm now connecting things. You how to divide fault or

738
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: like what percentage would you give Kellen versus Mike McCarthy

739
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: if we don't know that, because what we don't know

740
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,560
Speaker 1: is I don't know how much much is Mike involved

741
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 1: in the game planning? Yeah, and during the game is

742
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: he in his ear saying hey, I need a little

743
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: more of this or I need a little less of this,

744
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 1: and he's he's not a good idea, Let's do something different, right,

745
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 1: I don't know, and none of us That's what I

746
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: wonder though, because here we are just like oh, Kellen,

747
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 1: Kelly and Kellen. But it does make me wonder, Okay,

748
00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: how much is it actually Mike McCarthy's fault as well?

749
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: Obviously he's a head coach, he has some well, so

750
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: the buck hasn't stop. Yeah, so he's like, Okay, is

751
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 1: it Mike McCarthy and what he's doing, or is it

752
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: you get rid of the offensive coordinator? See what happens

753
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: to the fact that they've won thirteen games or fourteen?

754
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: With thirteen games, is now that the head coach has

755
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 1: probably saved himself. Yeah, so now it's not about the

756
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,720
Speaker 1: head coach, and the head coach can say I everything.

757
00:37:47,880 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: We'll know if they get rid of Kellen Moore, if

758
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: they move on from Kellen Moore, then that's a decision

759
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: by Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy, and then then we'll say

760
00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,439
Speaker 1: how much do you want to blame? He's Mike McCarthy's thinking.

761
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 1: I try, I had to tell you what I wanted

762
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 1: to do, and we did this. Okay, I allowed it.

763
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:09,280
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna allow it anymore. Do you think Jerry

764
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: has the decision to make on let Kelly, let Dan

765
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: Quinn leave, or make him the head coach. I'm just

766
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:18,759
Speaker 1: gonna come out and say it. I'm too tired to

767
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,279
Speaker 1: dance around. Do you think that that should even be

768
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 1: on the table. I don't think it is on the

769
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: table personally. And the reason why I don't is because

770
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: I think Jerry's looking at this and saying, Mike McCarthy

771
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: got me twelve wins last year, Mike McCarthy got McCarthy

772
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: got me thirteen wins this year. I don't think my

773
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: head coach is the problem. But he also got you

774
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Mike Nolan as the defensive coordinator to the first year,

775
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: and then Jim tom and has been one and one

776
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: in two in the playoffs. So yes, I get all that. Now,

777
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: you can depends on who wants to argue which side

778
00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 1: in the room on the debate team, which I wouldn't

779
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,680
Speaker 1: want to, you know, debate with you since you're an

780
00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:59,840
Speaker 1: all state debater in high school, which is true, but

781
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,799
Speaker 1: does can can any defensive coordinator worth his salt come

782
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,439
Speaker 1: in here and take Michael Parsons and and be good

783
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,000
Speaker 1: with it? You know, and like I don't. I don't

784
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: know what we're going to find out. Probably don't know.

785
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: So that's that. That's the decision, and I think I

786
00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,000
Speaker 1: think that's something that Jerry is has to think about.

787
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,239
Speaker 1: And again, this isn't mean knowing anything. I believe Mike

788
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,400
Speaker 1: McCarthy will be the head coach next year, but I

789
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be easy to say bye

790
00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: to Dan Quinn if if in fair, I don't I

791
00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: agree with you on that. I think the thing that

792
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: you have to now in your line of thinking is

793
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,400
Speaker 1: if you ask Dan Quinn, if I hire you as

794
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: the head coach, who's your OC. That's the question you

795
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: now have to ask, because if you have an understanding like, Okay,

796
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: who's Mike McCarthy going to bring in here as an OC? Potentially? Okay,

797
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 1: who's Dan? Dan? Who do you got if you were

798
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: if I were to give you this job, who would

799
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,320
Speaker 1: you bring in as NOC? Now? Will and Steven have

800
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: to sit down and say, all right, wait a minute.

801
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,520
Speaker 1: With Dan, we get this, we get our defense. But

802
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: he's got a better coordinator idea than the head coach

803
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,960
Speaker 1: than the current head coaching. Jerry Jones is open to

804
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: have that kind of interview with then Quinn. I think

805
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: he's paying Dan Quinn like he's a head coach right

806
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: now to be honest with you, I don't think there's

807
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 1: anything Jerry's not willing to at least think about. Like

808
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: I think he's probably thinking about everything. But but I'll

809
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: also throw this out there into this mix. Are we

810
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,759
Speaker 1: sure that let's assume for a second, let's go way

811
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 1: out on a limb and assume that they make the

812
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:32,279
Speaker 1: decision we'd rather keep dan Quinn and they keep him.

813
00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: What makes us believe that as the head coach, this

814
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: defense is still gonna be as good as it was

815
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,120
Speaker 1: when he was the guy that was over the defense,

816
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 1: Like when he was in Atlanta, that defense is pretty

817
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,720
Speaker 1: good the first year. It got progressively worse over the years.

818
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: And so it does make me wonder, like, if you're

819
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:50,719
Speaker 1: the head coach, you're not pouring as much time into

820
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: the defense. You're certainly probably not calling the plays on

821
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,320
Speaker 1: game day, and so you're still not getting the benefit

822
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,719
Speaker 1: of dan Quinn is your defensive coordinator, he's your head coach.

823
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: That's a different role. He called the plays when they

824
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: were in New Orleans that time, when that the COVID

825
00:41:04,280 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 1: game with Mike McCarthy, when he was the head coach,

826
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 1: they won the game in New Orleans against against trist

827
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,400
Speaker 1: Is it Hillo Hill, Taysom Hill. Yeah, said Tristan Hill,

828
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 1: Taysom Hill. Dan was on the sidelines calling defense just

829
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 1: that that time, just that time. Yeah, you know, is

830
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: it one of those things. I mean we've seen We've

831
00:41:23,360 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: seen guys like, I know, the guy at New Orleans,

832
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: Dennis Allen. You know, Now, maybe it's a thing where

833
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:31,880
Speaker 1: you trust Joe Wit to be that guy. If you're

834
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, You're like, listen, I trust Joe. I'm not

835
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: gonna let Joe mess Joe. What do you got? What

836
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: do you Joe? What do you know? Joe? Don't go

837
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:40,279
Speaker 1: with that. Yeah, think about this one, you know. I

838
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: mean maybe that's what maybe learned something from his time

839
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 1: in Atlanta. I think helps. Yeah, I don't know. I

840
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 1: think so. I I think it didn't have Michael Parsons

841
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,399
Speaker 1: and Trey Von Diggs. I think it's something if you're

842
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: if you're Jerry Jones, you absolutely have to consider because

843
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: to me, you want to know, the number one thing

844
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm thinking about this offseason is fixing Dak Prescott. Yeah,

845
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: that's the number one thing I'm thinking about. So every

846
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,680
Speaker 1: decision has to every decision has to be whether you

847
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: hire a defensive head coach and dan Quinn, who's the OC?

848
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:09,799
Speaker 1: What other staff are we going to bring in here?

849
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,280
Speaker 1: You know that? Or if you're Mike McCarthy, all right, Mike, listen,

850
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,480
Speaker 1: congratulations had a nice year. Who do you want as

851
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: your OC? And tell me why you want? And tell

852
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 1: me why and how you're going to not how you're

853
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,680
Speaker 1: going to fix four from some of the deficiencies he's shown.

854
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: And if they decide, if Gerry decides that he does

855
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: want to go that route and get let say you

856
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: get dan Quinn. It wouldn't be right away because he'll

857
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: lose draft picks if he doesn't do it. He's got

858
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: a he's got an interview, he's an interviewed minority candidates.

859
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 1: He's got it. You know what he's like. I don't. Now.

860
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:46,399
Speaker 1: You can wink, wink and say, Hank tie, it's coming

861
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: back to you, but I mean, that's not the spirit

862
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:50,480
Speaker 1: of the rule, and not at all. I wouldn't think

863
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 1: that they would do that. And so you know, and

864
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: I mean, since it's being talked, I've already been asked

865
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 1: twice this morning and I've barely even been awake for

866
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: a long enough for it but I do not believe

867
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: Sean Payton is in play here. No, I don't think

868
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 1: he has either need cheap superstars, and the only way

869
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:11,719
Speaker 1: you get cheap superstars is if you draft them. So

870
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 1: I don't know why you would want to get a

871
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:17,200
Speaker 1: Sean Payton in here, whose resume I don't think is

872
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 1: any better than McCarthy's to come in here and lose

873
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 1: a first round pick. It is not talking about a

874
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: conditional six. This is a first round pick. No, thank you. Yeah. Yeah.

875
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 1: The thing about I think with Sean is to me

876
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,680
Speaker 1: that and maybe the bridges. I'm not saying we're burned,

877
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: but you know, there's such a friendship there and stuff

878
00:43:35,000 --> 00:43:37,239
Speaker 1: like that. I think that maybe Jerry's kind of moved

879
00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 1: on from that. Just listening to people talk. Yeah, I mean,

880
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,799
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm friends with Sean. I have not talked

881
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: to Sean one day about this job. Now he's yelled

882
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 1: at me for talking about this job while others are

883
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: still having jobs. But I have not talked to Sean

884
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: about this particular job in a while. I'll say this though,

885
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: I would be absolutely shocked at this point if anybody

886
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:01,759
Speaker 1: other than Mike McCarthy is a head coach of this team,

887
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,080
Speaker 1: make I wouldn't. I don't see any reason why Jerry

888
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,840
Speaker 1: would have gone out there and been so emphatic yesterday

889
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,920
Speaker 1: and the time he was asked before yesterday about Mike

890
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 1: McCarthy's job security, Like he would have just been like,

891
00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,759
Speaker 1: you know, we'll look at everything. There's no reason why

892
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: you and we're like Odell and well but they but

893
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 1: the point is the point with Odell, like they wanted O'Dell.

894
00:44:24,320 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: Let's not make any mistakes about like they wanted O'Dell.

895
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,440
Speaker 1: It just once they finally got a chance to look

896
00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:30,359
Speaker 1: at him, they were like, who, you're healthy and maybe

897
00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: he's not the guy, right. So I don't think it's

898
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: a matter if Jerry didn't want him. I think he

899
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 1: was very clear about that. I just think this was

900
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 1: a situation where he is saying emphatically because I think

901
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,520
Speaker 1: he believes Mike earned the ability to stay here for

902
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: another year. And I think I would just be shocked

903
00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:46,120
Speaker 1: if they do anything different this year that doesn't mean

904
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,160
Speaker 1: anything for future years. This year, I would be shocked.

905
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 1: You know. It's ironic is that when we go back

906
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,919
Speaker 1: six weeks, we were when we were all knee deep

907
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: in the Odell stuff like thought it was happening, And Brian,

908
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 1: you kept saying, you know, in the playoffs on third down,

909
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: third and four, is he gonna make your play? Damn?

910
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: Did he wish he was? You had somebody that can

911
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 1: make a play, And now I know it wasn't him.

912
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,600
Speaker 1: He wasn't healthy any and a lot of the reason

913
00:45:13,680 --> 00:45:16,640
Speaker 1: he wasn't healthy, it's because of Odell. Odell didn't commit

914
00:45:16,760 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: to his rehab like he should have. Well, like like

915
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,759
Speaker 1: like he needed to, not should have. You can do

916
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 1: whatever you want, your grown man, but like he needed

917
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,480
Speaker 1: to to be able to play. They have they have

918
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: a decision about the running back to that running back

919
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: might be done. He's already moved to center. I really

920
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,440
Speaker 1: hope that's not the final play of his Cowboy career,

921
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 1: getting trucked at the center position. But I do agree

922
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:45,480
Speaker 1: with you, Brian, like there's no way your lead running back,

923
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: which he still is, your starting running back, there's no

924
00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:50,080
Speaker 1: way you lose your backup. And we know I know

925
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 1: what Tony Pollo brings this team. I get that, but

926
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,279
Speaker 1: there's no way you lose that guy. Your starter is

927
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: still in the game, and your offense just can't go anywhere,

928
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: cannot move the ball. And there were a number of

929
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: runs Nick, you and I were talking about in the game,

930
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: or number of runs where you're looking at him, you're like, man,

931
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,840
Speaker 1: Zeke got one or two, maybe three, Polly would have

932
00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:11,879
Speaker 1: gotten eighty. He just doesn't have that. He doesn't seem

933
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: to have that first decision if and the one thing.

934
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 1: And hopefully we'll have the draft show coming up here

935
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:20,120
Speaker 1: in a few days or so. But there's plenty of

936
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: running backs in the sea. You go, there's a lot

937
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,839
Speaker 1: of running backs, and it's and it's hey, go out

938
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:25,800
Speaker 1: there and if you want to, you know, if you

939
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: want to figure it out, if you if Pollard leaves

940
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,839
Speaker 1: and Zeke moves on and all that, you will have opportunities.

941
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: You really really Pollard, Yeah, Pollard is a different situation now,

942
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 1: polar Yeah, everything changed. I think broken leg, I mean

943
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: broken uh fibula three months? Three months? Three months? So

944
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 1: let's say until what that's yeah, that's what they say,

945
00:46:48,160 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 1: it's a three month rehab thing. Well then then maybe

946
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:53,080
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a broken fibula. Is that? What is that?

947
00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: That's what they called it, But they said it was

948
00:46:54,520 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 1: a three month thing. Three month I mean by April,

949
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: he would be ready to what resumed flack ativity. So

950
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: that means he's here for most of the offseason workouts. Yeah,

951
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: but he's gonna be rehabbing the whole time. Decisions You

952
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 1: got to make decisions on him in March. Yeah, yeah,

953
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: but what we but what we know about this team,

954
00:47:12,000 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 1: they're not afraid to do it with an injured guy,

955
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 1: like you franchise him. I wouldn't. I wouldn't, but I'm

956
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: not saying I don't three million dollars. I would not.

957
00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,680
Speaker 1: I would win. He won't. He may not be himself

958
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 1: that that whole year. And my thing is just like

959
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,520
Speaker 1: running backs, you can get them, man, there are there

960
00:47:31,560 --> 00:47:34,399
Speaker 1: are so many running backs in this league that coming

961
00:47:34,520 --> 00:47:37,480
Speaker 1: every round of the draft, Like you can get quality

962
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:39,880
Speaker 1: running backs and and bring them in here and get

963
00:47:39,960 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 1: them to play. I just look at that, and I'm like,

964
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: I'm going back to the well and quite frankly, every

965
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,160
Speaker 1: two years I would be drafted, I will, and he

966
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:51,640
Speaker 1: just keep it rotating. The kid at Texas be Jean Robinson,

967
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 1: regardless of positions, one of the best players I've ever seen.

968
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 1: He's a he is a ball. Seriously, I don't know

969
00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 1: that honestly in the time that I've been a Texas fan,

970
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 1: and I don't know that even and I'll even go,

971
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,839
Speaker 1: this is gonna sound crazy, Ricky even looking at Ricky,

972
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 1: like watching Bejon is a different beast, Like I am

973
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: afraid that we're not gonna have him next year, Like

974
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: I'm that is that is terrifying to me because as

975
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 1: bad as we were at times this year, Beijean still Bijon,

976
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 1: like he just he has a way doing some amazing things.

977
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: Campbell that was a little bit before my fandom. You

978
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,320
Speaker 1: guys are so cut through, and you know, and I

979
00:48:30,440 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: am too sometimes, but it's about to say, like who's

980
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: probably who probably on this show? Open the show right,

981
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: like I have nothing to say, like you, I'm afraid

982
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna cuss. Yes you switch to Spanish. Um no,

983
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 1: it's it's you know, yes, I am cut throw but

984
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,760
Speaker 1: at the same time time in a sports way, feelings

985
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 1: and I'm a very sentimental emotional person and it just

986
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:11,120
Speaker 1: it sucks because I love Zeke, but it sucks every

987
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: once we got to this point where you know, you

988
00:49:15,160 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: got to move on from somebody and then you couldn't

989
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,520
Speaker 1: get where you wanted to get. With the people you

990
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 1: were in and like hanging in there these people. Tyren Smith,

991
00:49:25,719 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: he ain't gonna I think that's it for him as well.

992
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 1: Sack Mary. I'm sure he's gonna still be here possibly,

993
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:35,759
Speaker 1: But you talked about like just kind of getting a

994
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: new roster every year, and it happens you're never gonna

995
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: have the same team year after year. That that's that's

996
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 1: gonna happen, but it just sucks us. Huh might keep

997
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: Tyren Smith? I think I might too. What I saw

998
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: at t Smith and Smith on the left side, and

999
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:54,759
Speaker 1: they go back with the group you originally thought you

1000
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:58,080
Speaker 1: were gonna go with. Okay, Now, now here's here's the thing.

1001
00:49:58,800 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 1: I'm not bidding on the fact he's gonna stay healthy. Sure,

1002
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,239
Speaker 1: that's the part where you better have all Right, we

1003
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 1: appreciate you, guys, Jones. We'll be back tomorrow, and tomorrow

1004
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:08,600
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get a little more into this.

1005
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: Where do they go next? Because there's so many questions

1006
00:50:11,719 --> 00:50:14,080
Speaker 1: there on with all the free agents and and all

1007
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: the players that we know will be will have the

1008
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 1: opportunity to go other places. Where should the Cowboys be

1009
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: looking to improve this team and get better we'll talk

1010
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,959
Speaker 1: about that tomorrow for Nick Keepman. Brian brought us Amber

1011
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: Got See. I'm Derek Hilton. This has been The Break

1012
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:27,839
Speaker 1: live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. This has been

1013
00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:31,040
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