Speaker 1: I miss the green. For example, I'm already upset. When
Speaker 1: I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset.
Speaker 2: And when I find my ball in a fried Egg
Speaker 2: Friday egg, the dreaded Frida Egg Friday, Frida Egg Bride
Speaker 2: Egg Lie, I'm about ready to run.
Speaker 1: Off the golf course.
Speaker 3: Ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another edition of the
Speaker 3: Frida Egg Podcast. We have our three man weave with
Speaker 3: us is Crown Carter from No Laying Up and DJ
Speaker 3: Paiehowski from Scratch Gentlemen Live from the blog Cabin.
Speaker 2: Andrew, thank you for having us. Welcome to Jacksonville, Ron
Speaker 2: and I are happy to host you this week. You know,
Speaker 2: the land of low cost goods and services.
Speaker 3: It's you know, I've been getting a lot of pressure
Speaker 3: across the board from people saying, look, how great Jacksonville is.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your take so far?
Speaker 3: You know, it's seems pretty nice. It's a little over
Speaker 3: commercialized for me, too many chains. But you haven't been
Speaker 3: anywhere yet, you know. I've spent too much time at
Speaker 3: Gmax restaurant known in Blue.
Speaker 1: Technically it's a change. There's two two locations.
Speaker 3: Two locations commercialized It's how good was g Max place yesterday?
Speaker 1: It was fun time, great dinner.
Speaker 2: Was kind of a golf Twitter meet up, almost like
Speaker 2: a G twenty summit kind of a situation.
Speaker 4: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: It's great getting a lot of heat about the Ernie
Speaker 3: L's Phil Mickelson thing.
Speaker 5: It's then coming from all angles.
Speaker 1: And then Rory piled.
Speaker 4: On Rory Pyle on.
Speaker 2: Oh yess like collateral damage, unintended unintended shotsable.
Speaker 1: Somebody tipped him off.
Speaker 3: He's got an American bias now that he's into Americans.
Speaker 1: Uh, Ernie never won, the players filled it, you know what?
Speaker 3: Moving on? You know, I think the biggest announcement of
Speaker 3: the week has been the the lift of the couture,
Speaker 3: the fat Yeah, from trying harder.
Speaker 4: It was time.
Speaker 1: I've heard.
Speaker 4: I've listened, you know, I listened to the evidence, and uh.
Speaker 2: Well what made you out to begin with? Can we
Speaker 2: start there? He stinks, He very much.
Speaker 1: Doesn't stink objectively doesn't stink.
Speaker 4: He lacks pop. So I've changed it from you. Lax
Speaker 4: pop can't play to you. Lax pop can't play Okay,
Speaker 4: so l PCP is still a thing. But I don't know,
Speaker 4: it was just it was time to lift the fatoa
Speaker 4: and I'd heard the bulk of the evidence was was
Speaker 4: overwhelming that he just gets it. He gets it.
Speaker 1: He's woke, super woke. That's great. I'm I'm happy to
Speaker 1: have you on the team.
Speaker 3: So now let's you know, I want to read visit
Speaker 3: something we talked about best player without a major?
Speaker 1: Is it Matt Kocher, No, absolutely not.
Speaker 4: It's Monty.
Speaker 1: It's Monty.
Speaker 4: Monty's the best player without a major and the best
Speaker 4: player without a PGA Tour win.
Speaker 3: You know, we we had Bernhard in the blog cabin
Speaker 3: earlier this morning.
Speaker 1: They learned a nice trade of donuts to the cabin.
Speaker 3: The most disappointing thing is I realized when I when
Speaker 3: we left, is that I didn't ask him. Has Monty
Speaker 3: gotten surlier on the Champions Tour or more receptive.
Speaker 1: To American fans. Here's the thing that you guys should
Speaker 1: do this week. While you're here.
Speaker 2: You've got PJ Tour employees rolling around all over the place.
Speaker 2: Talk to some of them about Monty. Talk to some
Speaker 2: of the Champions people about Monty, because they will tell
Speaker 2: you nothing but great.
Speaker 4: I love Monty.
Speaker 2: They love it like I think the surliness is greatly exaggerated.
Speaker 2: I think some of it maybe maybe we talk about
Speaker 2: American bias. I think maybe they don't get the uh
Speaker 2: just don't get the British lifestyle.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Once, once the the world found out about the National parks,
Speaker 3: it's been a revelation for his his image.
Speaker 1: Do you want to talk to talk through that?
Speaker 4: I want to keep that from the back burner.
Speaker 1: Okay, all right, I don't want to ruin that one.
Speaker 1: Are you going to trying? You know? Are you gonna
Speaker 1: go watch Coach this week?
Speaker 4: I am? I am. Yeah, I think I'm gonna go.
Speaker 4: Who's he playing with?
Speaker 1: That's a good question. I was gonna look it up here,
Speaker 1: you know, I really, I just oh, I have to.
Speaker 3: He's got Sergio, Adam Scott and Cooch. It's a featured pairing.
Speaker 4: It's a globalist pairing.
Speaker 1: That's yeah, that's in Switzerland.
Speaker 4: And then Coach lives in Sea Island, which might as
Speaker 4: well be yea Switzerland.
Speaker 1: That's a great group. Is a good dustin j T
Speaker 1: and who.
Speaker 4: Right, I'll probably go and watch him a little bit.
Speaker 4: I don't like his style of play.
Speaker 1: Well that's what I was gonna say. So watching I don't.
Speaker 2: I know, maybe Andy's a bigger guy on on this
Speaker 2: than you, but like I am so down with the
Speaker 2: different styles of play. I get like just turned turned
Speaker 2: on watching the different styles of play. And that's where
Speaker 2: like watching Sergio, Adam, Scott, Dustin, j T, and Rory
Speaker 2: all kind of in the same group, and then watching
Speaker 2: how Cooch plays against that, Like that's awesome.
Speaker 4: I get the Ryder cup when they were doing that
Speaker 4: number or whatever, these these massive bombs and then Coochers
Speaker 4: just this scrapy ass bade. Yeah, yeah, I mean I
Speaker 4: think that's That's the big publicized story of the week
Speaker 4: is the lifting of the Fats wall from Poucher. But
Speaker 4: I got ghosted again by Wes. Wes Bryan Sad. He's
Speaker 4: in my head.
Speaker 1: I think he is.
Speaker 2: I think that's I think he knows exactly what he's doing.
Speaker 2: I don't think he's being mean. I don't think he's
Speaker 2: doing it. I think he just knows.
Speaker 4: I kept my distance, I failed myself and he.
Speaker 3: Just completely another big thing early week action squashing the
Speaker 3: beef with with Smiley.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm people are capable of change, and.
Speaker 1: It's been a big week of change for you of
Speaker 1: course change, just tron changes.
Speaker 4: It's good.
Speaker 1: It's a week of change. That's good, it's positive. Spif
Speaker 1: was there to witness.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, Jay Spencer, you know, gave a stamp of.
Speaker 4: Approval while you were getting in his head about the
Speaker 4: US Open.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no, DJ was getting it said
Speaker 3: not I.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Let's just see, let's see how he plays.
Speaker 1: I think speF you heard it here first.
Speaker 2: I think speed might be a little worried knowing that
Speaker 2: Andy Johnson aka the Fried Egg is head to local
Speaker 2: qualifying next week.
Speaker 1: He was open. I think Speth is like, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I I know I got one of these. I
Speaker 2: was hoping to get more.
Speaker 1: But there's all these young guys coming up. This young guy,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think his temper changed, his demeanor change after he
Speaker 2: found out you were a competitor.
Speaker 4: He's gonna want to get his amateur status back. It
Speaker 4: very much didn't He could heete with you on the
Speaker 4: on the cocktail.
Speaker 1: Couldn't have could have been more unaffected by the by
Speaker 1: the convent, couldn't have been it couldn't have been could
Speaker 1: have been nicer. Yeah, but talking a little architecture.
Speaker 4: Smiley perked up when we started talking about Vestavia.
Speaker 1: Yeahills Country Club.
Speaker 3: I'm telling I think there's a new new age on
Speaker 3: the tour where the younger guys are, you know, great awakening.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm surprised when Smiley went on the four Play
Speaker 4: pod that they didn't ask him about any golf course architecture.
Speaker 2: Speaking of speaking of young guys getting into architecture, you
Speaker 2: had spent some time with Grayson today.
Speaker 1: I did Grayson Murray.
Speaker 3: He's a he's on his website he says that he's
Speaker 3: into golf course architecture. So I, you know, I wanted
Speaker 3: to ask him about it. Everybody else was asking him
Speaker 3: about out Twitter and and firing as caddie and you know,
Speaker 3: I might.
Speaker 1: Have been the only person that and how to catch
Speaker 1: a predator.
Speaker 3: But I asked him about architecture. You know, he he
Speaker 3: prefaced everything with you know, I want to learn.
Speaker 1: More about it.
Speaker 3: But you know, I got to play with he told it,
Speaker 3: he got to play with Gil Hands and he was
Speaker 3: really Gil Hands so hot right now, Yeah, the hot
Speaker 3: name in architecture. So but it was interesting, a little
Speaker 3: different side of Grayson Murray.
Speaker 1: You know that's great. Yeah, good to hear. So I
Speaker 1: report the good with the bad? Yeah, what about the
Speaker 1: what about the course?
Speaker 4: You walked all you guys pulled me back to the
Speaker 4: blog cabin from me doing actual no laying up. I
Speaker 4: was creating content for no laying up, which is like
Speaker 4: the rarest thing in the world. I was writing something
Speaker 4: you know how to content, and you pulled me away
Speaker 4: from you pulled me away.
Speaker 2: From med tRNS wearing tennis shorts right now by the way,
Speaker 2: Yeah for full visual.
Speaker 4: Walmart, Baby Russell Athletics Walmart.
Speaker 3: He rolls up to the to the media center in
Speaker 3: athletic shorts neon.
Speaker 1: Last two days Positio Polo though to be fair.
Speaker 3: Unprecedented, and then he spend spend a lot of time
Speaker 3: in the in the Colway tour truck just pulling out gear.
Speaker 1: You Knowick was in there really.
Speaker 4: And like I think he was wearing like a Lebron
Speaker 4: jersey or something.
Speaker 2: Erick also woke, I feel like you, I don't want
Speaker 2: to change too much in one day, but I feel
Speaker 2: people are gonna come around.
Speaker 3: Risk injury Furorick's just spent kind of like stinky.
Speaker 4: It's been kind of like athletic shorts and a T
Speaker 4: shirt and flip flops in there and we were on
Speaker 4: the same way.
Speaker 2: Tron moves down to uh, moves down to Jacksonville, starts
Speaker 2: adopting that Furich lifestyle.
Speaker 1: He lives right down the road. Really, Oh yeah, Jacksonville native.
Speaker 4: Can I just say DJ's rock monster. Wow, I have
Speaker 4: a whole new concept of VJSON.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. All these these guys are so
Speaker 2: three dimensional. You got to get out here and see
Speaker 2: these guys. There's so much more.
Speaker 4: To this truck is like the only truck I've seen
Speaker 4: bigger on tour than that is Brian Harmon's ironic Brian
Speaker 4: Harmon's big ass truck. But I mean vj's little guy
Speaker 4: is murdered out. He's got that Matt Black very cool,
Speaker 4: really cool truck.
Speaker 3: I gained more respect for VJAS, saying after seeing his
Speaker 3: is like a monster truck.
Speaker 5: Like he's like a fifty two year old dude, drive
Speaker 5: around it.
Speaker 4: Like refuses to play the Champions Tour.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he refuses to get old.
Speaker 1: This this is a good discussion about the golf course.
Speaker 4: And yeah, you tell us. I went to the concert
Speaker 4: last night and Finales Grinding Phenoes playing a practice round
Speaker 4: on the concert on seventeen and fenes just still looping
Speaker 4: the course, still grinding out there.
Speaker 3: You know, I gotta get out and watch people play twelve.
Speaker 3: You know, the lots of negative feedback about the left
Speaker 3: side of twelve just you know, dishing balls into the water.
Speaker 1: But like, what what good as a whole if.
Speaker 5: It's just a layup birdie for long hitters.
Speaker 4: So guys are pretty split about whether they're gonna go
Speaker 4: for it or not. Cam Smith that he's definitely gonna
Speaker 4: go for it all week. DJ said he's laying up.
Speaker 4: I really think, yeah.
Speaker 1: Dustin, Yeah, I think so. Wow, that's interesting.
Speaker 5: It's not an easy lay up, that's the thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, well, you know, I'm just lifting your takes
Speaker 2: here that we were talking about last night. But there's
Speaker 2: so many pins on that green that are gonna make
Speaker 2: it really tough to get to if.
Speaker 4: They put him like front left, in front right, and
Speaker 4: just anywhere in the front.
Speaker 1: That's gonna think front right's the only like quote unquote
Speaker 1: easy one. I don't know.
Speaker 3: I think that's harder than it's The right side will
Speaker 3: be easier. Well, it's it's kind of hard. If you
Speaker 3: miss it right then you're short sided.
Speaker 1: If it's on the right back right. It is just
Speaker 1: toast like the back rights. If you lay up, you
Speaker 1: have like a blind shot.
Speaker 4: So here's here's a question. Do you think this course
Speaker 4: gets Do you think guys like over overmanage it, like
Speaker 4: too much course management, They get too far inside their
Speaker 4: own heads and get too cautious, like trying to plant
Speaker 4: it out.
Speaker 1: Ah.
Speaker 5: I think it's just it's it's unique.
Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of like nuance in what you
Speaker 3: guys have to do.
Speaker 2: Is it's I feel like the only way it would
Speaker 2: get like that is if you know it is a
Speaker 2: brand new hole like this, like all the other holes
Speaker 2: on tour.
Speaker 1: I mean, there's just like such a big body of data.
Speaker 2: That's like this is how this is what happens when
Speaker 2: you lay up, This is what happens when you go
Speaker 2: for it.
Speaker 1: Here's something interesting.
Speaker 3: Speece said to Zach at dinner, like he was talking
Speaker 3: they were talking about the core in the greens. As
Speaker 3: he talked about they put all new graphs in so
Speaker 3: it's like a better bermuda.
Speaker 1: And speak was talking about how.
Speaker 3: He loves grainy greens because that's what he grew up on,
Speaker 3: you know, grainy bermuta. So you know now these greens
Speaker 3: have like no grain, so they're like pure.
Speaker 1: So there there is.
Speaker 3: Like a little Bermuda advantage that is taken away a
Speaker 3: little bit because like the grainy greens favors guys that
Speaker 3: have played a ton on great greens, which you know
Speaker 3: is just you.
Speaker 4: Know what, I did not farewell on grainy greens when
Speaker 4: we play. I just totally like I think, on like
Speaker 4: the maybe the fifteenth pole, I realized like I hadn't
Speaker 4: been reading the green. Yeah, I don't want to do that,
Speaker 4: like the day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 3: The grain is not fun to deal with, not good,
Speaker 3: too many variables. So you know what Western and be
Speaker 3: your strategy with West. Now you know, he seems to
Speaker 3: be getting under your skin.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna keep doing me, keep being me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I think, like I said, I think Wes kind of
Speaker 2: knows what he's doing. I think he uh, I think
Speaker 2: he knows what irks these internet trolls like yourself.
Speaker 4: I'm not an internet troll.
Speaker 1: He knows like if you just pop them right back
Speaker 1: in the face. That's that's the only It's like a
Speaker 1: kind of.
Speaker 4: A stressful week for me. There's there's there's trouble lurking around.
Speaker 1: Every corner, no doubt. That's it's reminiscent of the golf course.
Speaker 2: You gotta just manage your game out there, Manta, keep
Speaker 2: my head on the swim. Yeah, you could make some
Speaker 2: big numbers really fast walking around that media center, walking
Speaker 2: around the golf course, walking around the locker room.
Speaker 1: There's there's all kinds of hazards out there.
Speaker 4: I mean, I might get beat up in the bathroom.
Speaker 1: Not evern even in the blog cabin. Is you know
Speaker 1: is safe? Who knows?
Speaker 4: It's I need some sleep. I'm like post post take
Speaker 4: post low t low t low take.
Speaker 5: Yeah, they've had they've had a sign of an itinerary.
Speaker 3: It's just been a thing after another, and you know,
Speaker 3: not a lot of sleep.
Speaker 1: That's the I got takeaway.
Speaker 4: I gotta get like at least six hours tonight.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I might need a nap, I might need a recharge.
Speaker 4: I might go jump in the pool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so shied the bald Eagle. You know who do
Speaker 1: you guys? Who you guys like? This week? I got
Speaker 1: two picks? I got it? Are we going favorite dark Horse? Sure? Sure? Favorite?
Speaker 2: Justin Rose Sally said yesterday, Really, I just yeah, I
Speaker 2: don't know, man, He just he to me is we
Speaker 2: can get into the Westwood thing later. But he, to
Speaker 2: me is the guy that's like similar, meaning that like
Speaker 2: he's almost never gonna shoot himself out of things, except
Speaker 2: for he also seems.
Speaker 1: To have the capability to close it out and get
Speaker 1: it done. And I don't know he's played well here.
Speaker 2: I think he shot like sixty three or sixty four,
Speaker 2: or I think maybe it was sixty four to sixty
Speaker 2: five in the final round a couple of years ago,
Speaker 2: shot up the later board, Like I don't know. I
Speaker 2: think he's I think he.
Speaker 1: Is gonna be there.
Speaker 2: And I liked my dark horse until I was talking
Speaker 2: to uh, yeah, I think it was Sarsin.
Speaker 1: Uh was Russell Henley.
Speaker 2: But then I'm thinking about it, and these these greens
Speaker 2: are gonna be super firm this week.
Speaker 4: Does he have a low golf No.
Speaker 2: I just think he's kind of one of those guys that,
Speaker 2: like he seems like he just makes a bazillion birdies
Speaker 2: on kind of some of the softer courses and stuff
Speaker 2: like that you never totally see him.
Speaker 1: I like he played well, played well. Augusta who does not.
Speaker 2: I guess it was yeah, maybe it's a bad that's
Speaker 2: maybe it's a bad take. I'm gonna stick with him.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna stick with Russell Henley Tron Uh.
Speaker 4: I like Kisner. I think he's playing really well right now.
Speaker 4: I think the favorite. For me, it's probably Coocher.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all the way, in all the way, you're all.
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't want to watch a single shot
Speaker 4: that he hits. But like big picture, I like what
Speaker 4: I'm seeing trending course for course.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think to two horses for course.
Speaker 4: To uh, two players championships.
Speaker 1: Gets it into the Hall of Fame, two majors.
Speaker 4: And then dark horse when you go Daniel Summer Hayes.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 4: But in my opinion, the best player not went on
Speaker 4: the PGA Tour yet.
Speaker 3: Besides Monty, we need to get Manty some sponsors attemption
Speaker 3: so you can get get back and slay the dragon.
Speaker 4: You need to get Monty healthy right now.
Speaker 3: You know, I think, uh, for some you know, I
Speaker 3: just I feel speak this week.
Speaker 4: It's it's quite speaky.
Speaker 5: He's missed the last two cuts here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he almost won the first year.
Speaker 3: I know, but I'm I'm kind of I mean, I
Speaker 3: think I might I don't know.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to. I'm debating who to pick him.
Speaker 3: I one and done league, and I'm so worried about
Speaker 3: a miscut though, like you can't get zero points from speed,
Speaker 3: It's true, you know, But at the same time, I
Speaker 3: just feel like he's burgeoning.
Speaker 2: I mean, I think it's like it's not that he
Speaker 2: hits it short by any stretch, but you know, it's
Speaker 2: what they say about this course all the time, where
Speaker 2: it pinches in it yeah, three ten, three fifteen, whatever,
Speaker 2: So all these like it's basically gets into the second
Speaker 2: shot thing where it's like you're looking for the best
Speaker 2: iron player, the best putter.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's pretty.
Speaker 3: Much Champ and my my dark horses. I'm feeling the
Speaker 3: burned really.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's just he's not been on fire. Doubt
Speaker 1: and the uros being tour and Sagurans love him right now.
Speaker 5: Nobody knows burned, I know.
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I'm sure I'm surprised that you know
Speaker 1: that Westburger. There hasn't been a get to know the burn.
Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean even it's hard for like he
Speaker 1: always talk about it's just a.
Speaker 2: It's an American bias. It's hard man he almost won that.
Speaker 2: He almost won that PGA, and still people are kind
Speaker 2: of like, yeah, yeah, it's from a different country, like
Speaker 2: you become up forgotten man, Maz Yeah, nobody's talking about
Speaker 2: It's true.
Speaker 4: He was pleasing. He was the hottest player in the world.
Speaker 1: It's another good course for him a few months and
Speaker 1: then just.
Speaker 3: You know, I think that's the golf though. Like it
Speaker 3: they you go in these stretches where you get hot
Speaker 3: for like there's only a few select great ones are hot.
Speaker 1: All the time. Only one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, John Rena, John Roger.
Speaker 4: About very good litmus test for John Rown this week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I just he hasn't missed the cutter as a pro,
Speaker 1: so silly, and he.
Speaker 3: Didn't finish outside the top ten as in college for
Speaker 3: two years.
Speaker 1: Like just such a consistent but it's a bad tell.
Speaker 4: You who else? I like little dark horse action this week.
Speaker 4: Matthew Fitzpatrick. Sure, I think this course suit. I don't
Speaker 4: know if his ball flight's quite high enough. He went
Speaker 4: to Northwestern he for what like three weeks.
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna bring it up every time.
Speaker 3: Jake Nichols loves really Yeah, well I love Jake Nichols.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he was we were.
Speaker 3: Talking about he's he said, he actually said he's a
Speaker 3: better ball striker than Speed.
Speaker 5: I think, as I remember, as I recall, don't hold
Speaker 5: me to this.
Speaker 4: Can we talk about your boy Mark Hubbard?
Speaker 1: Oh almost Hubs?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I I you know, I got to meet Mark
Speaker 3: Hubbard today.
Speaker 1: What a great vibe. Huh oh man.
Speaker 5: Just too low energy guys.
Speaker 2: Just a couple of guys that just aren't gonna get
Speaker 2: you're not gonna get too worried about things.
Speaker 1: Well, it was it was funny.
Speaker 3: We you know, I've got some scruff and I'm wearing
Speaker 3: some some ray bands and you know, nobody's talking to
Speaker 3: Hubbs and I walk up to him and he's got,
Speaker 3: you know, his scruff and ray bands on him.
Speaker 5: We just, you know, we talked about skiing and music.
Speaker 1: I gotta say I knew.
Speaker 2: So the way that the Players Championship does it is
Speaker 2: is cool. They do a first time ers press conference
Speaker 2: every year. They have everybody playing the tournament for the
Speaker 2: first time comes down into kind of like this big
Speaker 2: scrum on the back law and just kind of a
Speaker 2: big circle and anybody can anybody can walk up and interview,
Speaker 2: you know, anybody, And so.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of players, like a lot of players
Speaker 1: in media just kind of swirling around in this spot.
Speaker 4: It's great.
Speaker 1: It was a great great scene, great scene.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and so uh railed mind train of thought.
Speaker 1: Uh oh. So there's a lot of players, a lot
Speaker 1: of media like.
Speaker 2: All mixed about, and I know who Mark Hubbard is,
Speaker 2: Like I've seen him a hundred times, and I still
Speaker 2: like couldn't tell he.
Speaker 1: Was player or media.
Speaker 2: And I like had to look at his name tag
Speaker 2: for like to try to figure out who he was.
Speaker 1: There's only maybe three guys on tour that I have
Speaker 1: to look at their name.
Speaker 3: I know almost I know the backstory on almost all
Speaker 3: these guys on tour, and Mark Hubbard had no clue.
Speaker 1: I was like, where are you from? Yeah? Yeah, you know?
Speaker 4: And he reminds me of another Mark, Mark Burke from
Speaker 4: Pipe Dream. Geez, what do you call him? Homeless hubs?
Speaker 5: That's his emails, his emails, homeless hubs.
Speaker 2: Well, don't give away the Yeah, people are gonna blown
Speaker 2: up Mark covered. It's his Twitter, that's homeless hubs. Homeless
Speaker 2: hubs follow this guy, Yeah, check them out. He's a
Speaker 2: man the Good Takes. He lives in Denver, He's from there. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know where he lives now.
Speaker 1: He's homeless.
Speaker 6: Pipe dream, He's he's like the He's like the He's
Speaker 6: a very cool dude.
Speaker 1: He's very well cultured.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, he's into music.
Speaker 1: He's he's a skier.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: He thinks he might be the best skier on the
Speaker 3: PGA Tour, better than Phil. Well, if you ask Phil,
Speaker 3: definitely not. But if you ask everybody else, Yeah, well
Speaker 3: it depends the medium might drive that Phil.
Speaker 1: Is the best. American bias, Yeah.
Speaker 5: American bias. They're just shifting on Hubbard.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Hubbard does not getting enough press. You're saying, no, no.
Speaker 5: He's I don't think he wants press.
Speaker 4: How did homeless Hubbs get in? How is JJ spawn
Speaker 4: not in this week?
Speaker 1: It's just not how it works.
Speaker 4: I'm so angry about that. He's like a top five
Speaker 4: player in the world.
Speaker 2: I think, look shout out JJ spawn love JJ SPA.
Speaker 2: I wanted to respond, I think he I mean, he's
Speaker 2: had good finishes, but he hasn't had like the Postman,
Speaker 2: he hasn't had anything that's going to bump him up
Speaker 2: to like, you know, top you gotta be fifteen to fifty.
Speaker 1: I think. I mean he's probably in the top fifty. No,
Speaker 1: he's not topf or top fifty in the world. You
Speaker 1: have to be top. Oh yeah, you have to be.
Speaker 3: I think it's one twenty five last year or top
Speaker 3: but I think fifty in the world.
Speaker 1: I think there's a like a mini money list. I
Speaker 1: think I don't know.
Speaker 2: I gotta check, but I think there's like a mini
Speaker 2: list throughout the year, like numbers one through X that
Speaker 2: aren't already in, that aren't already in on twenty seventeen,
Speaker 2: like get in, which is I guessing how Canley got him?
Speaker 1: I think, But I don't know, dude.
Speaker 3: There's like an run of Tea Times Tomorrow afternoon. It's
Speaker 3: best field in Golf one nineteen PM is Reed Watson,
Speaker 3: Kapko one thirty, rom Rose Kimer one forty one, Garcia
Speaker 3: Scott Coocher one fifty two, DJ J t Rory like
Speaker 3: two o three. Then we go Mackenzie, hughes herm do
Speaker 3: Hermie and uh and Kjoy past Champ.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right. Ralphael Cabrero Bello overrated, under underrated, properly rated.
Speaker 3: I think he's I think he is because we put
Speaker 3: way too much weight on wins. He's underrated, but in
Speaker 3: the win culture he's overrated because he doesn't win, but
Speaker 3: he finishes.
Speaker 1: He racks top twenties. Sounds like, sounds like another guy cocher.
Speaker 3: No, he pounds it though he has plenty of pop.
Speaker 5: Yeah he lacks closing speed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he lacks pop at the point of attack.
Speaker 1: How about just gets blown out of the whole.
Speaker 2: There's different gap, different kinds of our boys. Z B
Speaker 2: hitting the ceremonial opening t shot this week.
Speaker 1: You know he he was.
Speaker 3: He was the PGA Tour ambassador of the first annual
Speaker 3: Monday shootout.
Speaker 2: The Saga Shootout. Andy's too modest to mention it. Andy
Speaker 2: with a huge w this year. We had an eight
Speaker 2: man shootout, one person knocked out on each hole. Zach
Speaker 2: Blair came out as to have a little tour player representation.
Speaker 1: Andy slayed the dragon. That's why he was wearing a.
Speaker 4: Like a buff today.
Speaker 1: Zach Wood, I mean looked like like an Arod guy.
Speaker 4: Really an Arab Mormon out there. His caddy might be
Speaker 4: the most interesting just the planet.
Speaker 1: His caddy is used to a k for Johnny Miller.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Layman for like twenty two years too. And
Speaker 4: Johnny Miller. He said, he said Johnny would have won
Speaker 4: at least one Masters if he would have been on
Speaker 4: the bag.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's a hot take, because back then you could,
Speaker 2: all right, you had to take it, you had to
Speaker 2: take one in.
Speaker 4: Caddies could line up, stand behind him the whole time
Speaker 4: and line him up. And he said, that's that's what
Speaker 4: he used to do with Johnny. Johnny had Like Johnny
Speaker 4: missed six putts inside of six feet in the first round.
Speaker 1: I think that year, man, it would be so hard
Speaker 1: to watch.
Speaker 4: He was out there watching this following his guys, but
Speaker 4: like watching somebody else loop for him, he was like,
Speaker 4: it was the most painful thing he's ever experienced. Man, Guys,
Speaker 4: guy's sixty thirty.
Speaker 1: That's how I felt in the shootout.
Speaker 3: Just DJ DJ is very very you know, he's he's
Speaker 3: bummed out because he played really good golf, but got
Speaker 3: Scott reacted. He he made a bad bogie, had the
Speaker 3: wrong time, lost lost in.
Speaker 1: The chip off. So we really should have should have
Speaker 1: been able to beat Thrill.
Speaker 2: Who else was Thrill and Tron and panther Mic should
Speaker 2: have been able to beat those guys, and they just
Speaker 2: couldn't get it done.
Speaker 3: DJ's got video coming. You know, it was a good time.
Speaker 2: Next year, you know we were holding taking spots, taking reservations.
Speaker 4: I'd like to get it up to like sixteen next year.
Speaker 1: I think it's like sixty. I think it's like six
Speaker 1: groups of ten and you just whittle it down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and then there's the final shootout of all the
Speaker 5: pool winners.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's so, that's what the memory. Blaine Barber committed today, committed. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was bumby, couldn't make it. Yeah, he has committed
Speaker 1: to play.
Speaker 2: So you know, now we've got I think that's what
Speaker 2: it's got to be. I think it's it's, uh, you
Speaker 2: do like a member guest. It's all flighted and the
Speaker 2: winners of all the flights get into the final shootout
Speaker 2: like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So the invitation an email oak Bridge National, he might
Speaker 3: not respond. Yeah, I'm thinking about putting up an email
Speaker 3: responder that says I.
Speaker 1: Don't like, I just didn't take like I just didn't
Speaker 1: get to it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, do not take offense if I don't respond to
Speaker 5: your email.
Speaker 1: Let's talk. Can we talk, Pete Die?
Speaker 7: What do you want?
Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about? Pete Die? I
Speaker 1: just I want you to talk Pete Die. This is
Speaker 1: a huge week for Pete Die.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like this is this is like,
Speaker 2: you know, the biggest part of the Pete Die narrative.
Speaker 1: So I think there's a this is a very it's
Speaker 1: a he's kind of a quandary.
Speaker 3: He understands the psychology of design as well as any
Speaker 3: architect has ever done.
Speaker 5: For especially for playing for like touring pros.
Speaker 3: You know where he's got this golf course and there,
Speaker 3: you know, there's it's it's visually intimidating.
Speaker 5: There's always preferred lines of play on.
Speaker 3: On t shots, and you know, if you play those
Speaker 3: preferred lines usually usually gain a better angle to approach
Speaker 3: and you get a shorter approach. But those those lines
Speaker 3: of plays always carry on risk of whether it be
Speaker 3: a bunker or a hazard or you know, out of bounds.
Speaker 3: And so you've got these, you know, and it's constantly
Speaker 3: testing somebody's aversion to risk.
Speaker 1: And as soon as you bail, as you bail, the
Speaker 1: more and more you bail to.
Speaker 3: The wrong side, your approach gets much much tougher. But
Speaker 3: a lot of times you'll get into these spots and
Speaker 3: you're you're in the fairway and you think you have
Speaker 3: a good approach, but like your your margin for error
Speaker 3: is nothing. But like a tour pro sees a fair
Speaker 3: you're in the fairway and you see a flag just
Speaker 3: sitting there and they think, oh, I can And then
Speaker 3: when you miss pin high, usually at a Pete die Corse,
Speaker 3: that's when all all goes to hell, and then you're
Speaker 3: you're trying to avoid making a big number.
Speaker 4: Sounds like people need to buy some credit default swaps.
Speaker 1: Exactly, no bail out.
Speaker 3: There's a lot of you know, but like the I
Speaker 3: think the thing that with sawgrass, I you know, I
Speaker 3: don't know if I I think there's a thrill for
Speaker 3: the regular player to go play sawgrass. But like the
Speaker 3: thing everybody has even mind is this place was designed
Speaker 3: specifically for tour players. So you're not gonna see as
Speaker 3: much width as you'd see. But that's okay because you've
Speaker 3: got guys that can have the ball on a string.
Speaker 2: We'll talk us through so that and that leads us
Speaker 2: into I mean, I know you walked all eighteen for
Speaker 2: the first time the other day, and I know your
Speaker 2: initial reaction was like about width and stuff, but I
Speaker 2: mean it kind of makes sense when you're talking through
Speaker 2: what you're saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there there isn't a ton of width
Speaker 3: on a lot of holes. There's there are some that
Speaker 3: have a ton of width, Like I think eleven is
Speaker 3: like forty six yards wide. Nine and and those are
Speaker 3: the par fives are really cool. You've got a lot
Speaker 3: of variety in the par threes. You've got a long
Speaker 3: part three, you've got the short one seventeen obviously, and
Speaker 3: then the other two are kind.
Speaker 5: Of different mid mid iron shots.
Speaker 1: Thirteen is so good. Yeah, I love that hole, especially
Speaker 1: when that pin is like in the way back left. Yes,
Speaker 1: so good.
Speaker 5: No, I like the back right one.
Speaker 1: Last year, well, last year, if you missing, they couldn't
Speaker 1: it cold the green nobody could. If anybody that went
Speaker 1: to try to get at that pin, it would just
Speaker 1: roll down in the back blood.
Speaker 4: Last year was spectacular.
Speaker 3: So good.
Speaker 1: You guys were out here on Saturday just talk us through.
Speaker 4: Ken Duke's sixty five was the greatest round in the
Speaker 4: history of golf. It's hard to argue, like not even
Speaker 4: not even like there's not even a close second. I'm serious,
Speaker 4: I mean I'm dead serious, Like, and I.
Speaker 1: Think three three guys broke par Yeah, Ken Duke had
Speaker 1: sixty five.
Speaker 3: Didn't Daniel Berger shoot sixty nine or something?
Speaker 1: I think so straight, straight vibe.
Speaker 3: Talking to Zach Blair at dinner the other night about it,
Speaker 3: he's mentioned he was like golfing, you know, the greens
Speaker 3: got so fast.
Speaker 1: He didn't have a.
Speaker 2: Tap in Nobody in the nobody in the group had
Speaker 2: a tap until the thirteenth hole.
Speaker 1: All just kept rolling like seven feet.
Speaker 2: By six and seven footers all day for part.
Speaker 3: It was great to wat He said, they were legitimately
Speaker 3: rolling fifteen or sixteen.
Speaker 1: I mean spicy. It's you know, trying.
Speaker 4: You got mad last night, the water last night.
Speaker 1: Make a million putts? What did he do? I don't know?
Speaker 2: There should be We need to do it oral history, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we should legitimately do that.
Speaker 1: We need to get Ken Duke on the pod.
Speaker 4: I think he got knighted the queen.
Speaker 2: Why hasn't nobody doing a Is anyone going to do
Speaker 2: a big retrospective on that Ken Duke sixty five?
Speaker 1: We should spearhead that I didnt Duke in the field
Speaker 1: this year.
Speaker 3: Of course, I think that was the big piece of
Speaker 3: I think he might have got you might have got
Speaker 3: was working on maybe, Yeah, that content producing he was
Speaker 3: doing in the media center.
Speaker 1: Ken Duke might have got a lifetime exemption after after that.
Speaker 4: I don't think he's in the field.
Speaker 5: He's he's definitely in the field.
Speaker 4: He's not in the field, guys.
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's unbelievable that Ken Duke.
Speaker 4: Ken Duke is not in the field. He shot the
Speaker 4: best round in the history of golf last year.
Speaker 1: How is he doing on the field?
Speaker 4: You're the one that worst for the tour. You need
Speaker 4: to be asking these questions.
Speaker 1: This might be a clerical asked for.
Speaker 3: There might he doesn't have a teeth. This is disgusting,
Speaker 3: you know this this controversy at Stoggrass, Sally.
Speaker 4: And I introduced our saying the commissioner last night got
Speaker 4: a good working relationship. Now with the cashier, I'm gonna
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the second time.
Speaker 3: That's for the commission was making rounds handing out coufling today.
Speaker 3: Did you notice his shirt he has He had the
Speaker 3: blue and gold buttons for his button down shirt. Like
Speaker 3: unbelievable detail.
Speaker 1: Like I heard a lot of a lot of good
Speaker 1: stuff about the commission.
Speaker 4: I've never heard a bad word out said about the commission.
Speaker 4: You know he blew up.
Speaker 1: I was talking at Michael Kimy, just blew it up.
Speaker 1: He rolled right in and handed on the cuff.
Speaker 5: I said, all right, I'm not gonna at all.
Speaker 1: That's fair. You know the commission. He's probably a busier
Speaker 1: schedule than you.
Speaker 4: Well, I felt bad, like many pods we're doing. I
Speaker 4: just I wanted to talk to every guy about the
Speaker 4: Walker Cup. Like we had three guys in a row
Speaker 4: that played in the like Fleetwood, Michael cam and somebody else,
Speaker 4: and we're like, man like one of them played the
Speaker 4: Walker Cup at National the of them played the Walker Cup,
Speaker 4: that Marion and like just those experience Jesus like that.
Speaker 4: I could have talked to them about that for for
Speaker 4: two hours. It's just Illuminati golf.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: There's so many interesting, you know, little unique stories out
Speaker 3: on the tour.
Speaker 1: I think that Mark Mark Covers, he's going to come
Speaker 1: out of the path soon. Friend of the pod. He's
Speaker 1: going to come out of the pod.
Speaker 5: Yea great, it might put you to sleep, we won't.
Speaker 4: I'm just I'm so upset right now that Ken Duke.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a bad look.
Speaker 4: Got just brushed brushed to the side.
Speaker 1: Must have finished top on twenty five.
Speaker 3: It's uh, this is it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Justice needs to be served.
Speaker 4: There's I see there's.
Speaker 3: There's a there's a twosome going off. Can we like
Speaker 3: get him in? You know some kang and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, send the PJ up, Yeah, over to Arkansas.
Speaker 1: I have to get him.
Speaker 5: If we get I think if we get fired up enough,
Speaker 5: he'll get in.
Speaker 1: You know, let duke play.
Speaker 4: Let finish T three last year doesn't get him in.
Speaker 3: Hashtag let free Duke three, Dude free Duke. So, you
Speaker 3: know the the other big storyline. I've heard a lot
Speaker 3: of buzz from the players about it. The players are
Speaker 3: talking about Wes d v Leashman.
Speaker 1: Yeah, everyone's talking about it.
Speaker 3: I mean, Lee Westwood probably is going to be a
Speaker 3: big factor this week.
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm just full disclosure.
Speaker 2: Andy wears Air west would shoose, so he's got no
Speaker 2: objectivity in this conversation at all.
Speaker 3: I'm all in on the You know, interesting thing about
Speaker 3: this new FedEx deal.
Speaker 1: Part of the deal is that there's no new UPS
Speaker 1: sponsorships to players. Seriously, Yeah, Westy and new Staysan.
Speaker 4: It just it still cracks me up that Westy won
Speaker 4: the FedEx Saint Jude Classic of all tournaments.
Speaker 3: That might be the reason for this isn't it unbelievable?
Speaker 1: Crazy peak? Irony Brown can't do anything for the PGA Tour.
Speaker 4: Guys, what can Brown do for you? All right? Ken
Speaker 4: Duke ten point five to nine strokes between Duke's score
Speaker 4: and the field average is the biggest differential internament history.
Speaker 4: Davis loves sixty four and three is the second biggest.
Speaker 2: I think it was up there with like the Furick
Speaker 2: fifty nine at Conway Farms. I think it's no but
Speaker 2: I mean like Stroked Virtualise, I think those are like
Speaker 2: among the biggest ever.
Speaker 1: I think it.
Speaker 4: Blows Furrix fifty eight out of the water. Last year,
Speaker 4: travelers like what about you.
Speaker 1: Do? Who want? Travelers can Duke? How is this tournament?
Speaker 4: This is?
Speaker 1: Look up his FedEx Cup from last year.
Speaker 4: It's a poem. It is he finished T three last year.
Speaker 4: I should get you into the next year.
Speaker 5: It's not how it works though, that that's ridiculous. He
Speaker 5: almost won.
Speaker 1: Look, I'm gonna say.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say on this podcast, there's a lot of
Speaker 2: talk about churning and having more churning, getting guys in,
Speaker 2: getting guys out, more volatility.
Speaker 4: Ian Poulter's his tour card.
Speaker 3: Ian Poulter's in the field and Ken Duke gays in
Speaker 3: the field. Technicalities. They're in on technicalities. And Ken Duke
Speaker 3: who finished ty third last year with.
Speaker 4: The best round in the history of golf.
Speaker 1: Let's see good down, this is all reworked.
Speaker 3: Here we go, We'll go to two thousand, twenty sixteen.
Speaker 5: Ken, it's amazing.
Speaker 1: Ken Duke is on tour really like, uh there finished?
Speaker 2: No, no, no, that's this here go back twenty six Nope,
Speaker 2: down this is good radio here up.
Speaker 1: There? Oh there we go?
Speaker 3: All right, Sorry, so Ken Duke, you know I finished one.
Speaker 1: That's bad. Not good.
Speaker 2: For the course though, like we might be we might
Speaker 2: be working on a statistical outlier here.
Speaker 1: Free Duke.
Speaker 3: I'm free Duke Cameron crazy, I might get made Free
Speaker 3: Duke for.
Speaker 1: The fans, for Duke Nation.
Speaker 5: Hashtag free Duke.
Speaker 4: You should paint yourself so.
Speaker 1: Strike the go stand out by Mulligan's pub outside the gate.
Speaker 1: We decide this is free Duke.
Speaker 3: What's what's your plan tomorrow? Planet attack Tron? Where where
Speaker 3: can the people find trot?
Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna go four fours like the best.
Speaker 4: That like watching dudes just get ejected hitting that approach.
Speaker 1: It depends where the pin is. When the pin's back left,
Speaker 1: it's it's great.
Speaker 4: Back right, or like even front right's good.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there's a little ball there, exciting.
Speaker 1: Supposedly they green complexes are great.
Speaker 8: Supposedly they softened it though really some of the greens
Speaker 8: have gotten soft.
Speaker 4: Not good, not good.
Speaker 1: But would you well, probably probably a result of duke.
Speaker 1: They're trying to duke proof the.
Speaker 4: Course, and then I well, wouldn't you prove the course?
Speaker 3: They didn't let them in the fields the ultimate ultimate
Speaker 3: way to do proof.
Speaker 5: It's just down the line of them.
Speaker 2: Would you rather have severe green complexes or firmer greens?
Speaker 4: Can't both severe green complexes? Really, I love severe green complexes.
Speaker 4: Andy's and he feels the exact opposite.
Speaker 3: Just uh, you know, I think I think severe greens
Speaker 3: all it's all balance, you know, severe greens with that
Speaker 3: wasn't the question severe greens and firm like you can't
Speaker 3: have severe greens and really fast greens.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. That I'm saying, would you rather
Speaker 1: have it firm and faster or severe complexes? Firm and fast?
Speaker 3: All day because like I think, actually subtle greens are
Speaker 3: the most maddening because like you can't you're trying to see.
Speaker 1: They're not fun to watch. But I little think it's.
Speaker 4: You always want there to be breaking a putt. It's
Speaker 4: so hard to read a straight punn. I always think
Speaker 4: there's something in it.
Speaker 3: So I think the hardest greens for these guys is
Speaker 3: subtle ones because in it.
Speaker 2: At about like Wilie and stuff like that, Like it
Speaker 2: looks super flat.
Speaker 4: But that was the thing hard to make a street
Speaker 4: was to think about a lot of those the open
Speaker 4: road of courses and played over in England, like the
Speaker 4: ones that at Liverpool were pretty flat. You're so subtle.
Speaker 4: Like I struggle with that coming down here too, because
Speaker 4: Bermuda greens tend to be a little bit flatter just
Speaker 4: to nature of them, like a bent grass green up
Speaker 4: in the northeast. And yeah, you just always like the
Speaker 4: breaks are so much more subtle and there's so much
Speaker 4: harder to read.
Speaker 1: So you in on on flat, firm and fast green
Speaker 1: now no.
Speaker 4: I'm I'm in one. You just love carnage. I want firm, fast,
Speaker 4: severe greens.
Speaker 1: You just want to see some way.
Speaker 4: It's just it just ejections. You know what it is
Speaker 4: like the brown and the score.
Speaker 3: It's because you know you got ejected early from from
Speaker 3: the shootout and you just like to see others commemorate misery.
Speaker 1: He didn't get ejected as early as he should have. No,
Speaker 1: to be fair dishonesty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I went over to the to the to the
Speaker 4: ball ten.
Speaker 1: He did not out.
Speaker 4: They did not have vulvis.
Speaker 1: I've always been curious about this. What is Bubba hit
Speaker 1: on the range volves? It didn't happen. Maybe just they
Speaker 1: just have a couple of bags.
Speaker 5: Well he's the only guy that hits.
Speaker 4: Vulvick, so they just patrovied former pizza.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man, how about Bubbas He's about to have slipt
Speaker 6: out of the top thirty in the rankings, Like that's
Speaker 6: where it goes. I mean, you fast, you get outside
Speaker 6: the top fifty and it just slides.
Speaker 4: Can we talking about one hundred? May Hens World World
Speaker 4: ranking six hundred and something?
Speaker 1: Didn't get point? Did he make the Cup last week?
Speaker 1: Between he finished out got fifty, he might not have
Speaker 1: gotten world ranking. Will Gray had that great tweet.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been exactly one year since he's earned a
Speaker 2: world ranking.
Speaker 1: Because if you finished low, what was his was he hurt?
Speaker 1: What was snakes? Man?
Speaker 5: I think they's it just it's just slides.
Speaker 1: It goes away bad. But I think we're gonna I
Speaker 1: think we're gonna see more of this though in this
Speaker 1: era want more church. Well there's the money.
Speaker 3: There's like there's not as much monetary incentive once you've
Speaker 3: like once you've wrapped thirty million and earnings on and
Speaker 3: off the course, Like why once you once you land
Speaker 3: a big ace hardware deal, Like what incentive is there
Speaker 3: to play play well on the golf course?
Speaker 1: It's true, I love the aces. Uh went to Furick.
Speaker 1: It's a good fit.
Speaker 4: That logo is so big.
Speaker 1: Honestly, that's great trying what's the what's the worst?
Speaker 5: What's the worst sponsorship on tour? Is it Sketchers?
Speaker 1: Is it Volvic?
Speaker 4: Let me let me grind on this one for a second.
Speaker 4: You guys keep talking amongst yourselves.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't like the big sponsor stuff. I'm
Speaker 3: getting these guys' shirts.
Speaker 4: I think I think Patrick Reid's tax Slayer sponsorships up there.
Speaker 1: You live in Jackson home in the tax layered wolf
Speaker 1: not good.
Speaker 2: Tax Slayer is bad all right, what else we got
Speaker 2: this week? What else to watch for this week? Where
Speaker 2: are you gonna be? Where are you going to be?
Speaker 1: I haven't decided. I haven't. The people find the Frida Egg.
Speaker 2: You're the Frida Egg, That's what they all say.
Speaker 3: I'm probably I don't know.
Speaker 1: In the morning, I might.
Speaker 3: I might go out and watch watch Full eighteen. Pick
Speaker 3: a group and go full eighteen with them.
Speaker 4: Just walk that's the best.
Speaker 5: And then in the afternoon I might just chill on twelve.
Speaker 1: Who's spenceful being paired with?
Speaker 3: That's what I'm looking for right now, Tron, you gotta
Speaker 3: get Wagner looked like jumpy Jonathan Wagners.
Speaker 1: There is different ways to get it done there two
Speaker 1: thirty six pm. We should make an afternoon round it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we could catch him out and they're off the back nine. Ye. Perfect.
Speaker 4: Everybody's going to be tied up on the front with that.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't mind seeing the junk man to that. He's
Speaker 4: going up last off.
Speaker 1: The I think you should support Smiley. I should Smiley's arm.
Speaker 4: I think that would mean a lot to him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Ernie and big and hot Charles. That's that's
Speaker 3: a that's a good little crew there.
Speaker 4: I just I might not even go to the tournament.
Speaker 4: I might just might start hunger strike here about the duke.
Speaker 4: The duke situation has got me really ruffled many.
Speaker 3: You know, that's what they wanted though. They wanted about Duke.
Speaker 3: They want they wanted you not.
Speaker 1: To be there. You know, I'm I think I don't know.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna I think it's gonna give him motivation.
Speaker 3: Who's gonna win the Canadian Champion Players Championship.
Speaker 1: So we got David Hearn, we.
Speaker 3: Might need to heys you over there, come on in.
Speaker 1: We got we got a question. We're gonna call him
Speaker 1: Canadian expert.
Speaker 5: Adam Starson here, resident Canadian.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna follow a leashman in every tomorrow morning.
Speaker 1: They're pair together.
Speaker 3: Nice, we get we want to know who's winning the
Speaker 3: Canadian Players Championship this week?
Speaker 1: Is it Hearn? Is it de Latte? Is it.
Speaker 4: Mat matc. Hughes was a resounding, resounding positive takeaways like
Speaker 4: this morning, everybody loved him from the from the very astute,
Speaker 4: very uh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, matches are very thoughtful.
Speaker 9: Yeah, he's very you can you can tell that he
Speaker 9: actually cares about what he's actually saying, I mean, if
Speaker 9: I if I had to pick somebody to actually before them,
Speaker 9: it has to be had one.
Speaker 4: Though again, I.
Speaker 5: Can't think this is a good course for him. He
Speaker 5: almost was my dark horse.
Speaker 9: I mean he's he's such a good putter that it's
Speaker 9: hard to ever really see him. I mean, if if
Speaker 9: his ball strike and is even you know, say, slightly
Speaker 9: above average, I mean he's going to be in contention.
Speaker 4: Like he's that good. He's that good on the greens.
Speaker 3: He's got a friendly parent too. He's playing with Alex
Speaker 3: Norn and Luke Donald.
Speaker 1: You watch some holes with LD this week? Yeah, what
Speaker 1: was that? Like? It was? It was good, It was
Speaker 1: it was interesting.
Speaker 3: You know, we talked a little bit about the design
Speaker 3: and and just how how golf's changed. I mean, he
Speaker 3: is a he's a very thoughtful guy.
Speaker 4: He like it's incredible how good he is inside one
Speaker 4: hundred yards.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, watching him pitch a ball is like
Speaker 3: one of the prettiest things to do.
Speaker 1: He's got an average shot from.
Speaker 2: One hundred yards, like average pinion, average anything, What is
Speaker 2: his average distance from the hole.
Speaker 5: The most incredible thing is to watch him hip bunker shots.
Speaker 1: If you watch him hip bunker.
Speaker 3: Shots like they very rarely are outside of three feet,
Speaker 3: like like you're surprised when they're like six.
Speaker 4: I think the most incredible things to watch him head
Speaker 4: drivers because it's so bad.
Speaker 1: You know, he he gets it done. He's he got
Speaker 1: to the got to the top of the mountain.
Speaker 4: You know you should follow Holmeless Hubbard Homeless Hubbs what
Speaker 4: times seven thirty two with Moulder and.
Speaker 1: Nah is he on the front or the back?
Speaker 4: He's on the back.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's it. That's an interesting parent.
Speaker 2: I like can't this week. I'm changing my dark horse pic.
Speaker 2: Paully likes Can't too. Really, Yeah, that's good. Gives me
Speaker 2: even more confidence.
Speaker 3: He played well at Harbor Harbor Town, he played well
Speaker 3: at valspar like those are that.
Speaker 1: Demand for me to work the ball both ways off
Speaker 1: the time. I mean he.
Speaker 3: I don't know how much he's going to play, Like
Speaker 3: I think he's going to be a guy that doesn't
Speaker 3: play a ton of churg like you, you're never going
Speaker 3: to see him playing a lot of turns because of the.
Speaker 1: Back, but like.
Speaker 3: He's stud he it'll be it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 3: where it goes. It's just good to have him back.
Speaker 4: What about Steve Stricker in the field.
Speaker 1: Should we do should That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Man probably finished top five and a major like typically
Speaker 4: probably Jerry Man's Jerry Man.
Speaker 1: Should we do one? Let's do one? One? Hot take
Speaker 1: prediction for the week. Oh you want me to go first?
Speaker 1: I guess I will.
Speaker 2: You don't want to say I don't know that it's
Speaker 2: that hot. You guys are gonna say this is kind
Speaker 2: of mild. But he fucking.
Speaker 5: It's okay.
Speaker 1: He torched the course last year. I think JD misses
Speaker 1: the cut. I think unequivocally not hot enough. That's not
Speaker 1: even remotely Turn up the heat, Turn up the heat,
Speaker 1: turn off the heat.
Speaker 4: Baby.
Speaker 3: Oh man, I do love paparezz out here. Yeah, that's
Speaker 3: the thing though, you know they they get ejected if like, you.
Speaker 5: Never know who's gonna make the cut.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna go with uh.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: I think Fleetwood will be a factor.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, good vibes today, Trona vibes. Yeah, great hair.
Speaker 4: For the best. Let us the best, let us.
Speaker 1: Sergia. Somebody's really talking about surgery.
Speaker 4: Shrub finishes top ten.
Speaker 1: Oh that's good. Stred loves it here. What about scam Smith.
Speaker 4: Get a whole lot out of him this morning. He's
Speaker 4: just he's just real chill. He's trying to move to
Speaker 4: Jack's Peach.
Speaker 1: I thought he lived here.
Speaker 4: No, he moved. He lives down like in Partodri. He
Speaker 4: wants to he wants to move to the wants to
Speaker 4: be in the act, the beaches. He wants to be
Speaker 4: in the in the center of it all up with
Speaker 4: Maddie and uh Maddy, Kelly and I and Trot. He
Speaker 4: wants to be a neighbor Releashman's caddy.
Speaker 1: He wants to be in the Wold Coast, Florida's Woe
Speaker 1: Coast coast.
Speaker 2: What about Bernhard? Oh, Bernhard makes the cut. I'll tell
Speaker 2: I'll go with that. I'll go with that as my take.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, Ja misses the cut.
Speaker 1: Bernhard makes the cut. Okay, covered Factor, Yeah, yeah, he
Speaker 1: gets You've had some good stuff, good stuff from him.
Speaker 1: He just got good vibes from him. That's great.
Speaker 4: Yeah, Honor Bondle here he might win.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Airbnb now salls you're alive, my friend. He's He's
Speaker 1: still the most most cryptic comment ever made.
Speaker 4: I know I need to ask him about that.
Speaker 1: Speak share the story.
Speaker 4: We're at Harbortown. Uh, he walks Airbnb walks by and
Speaker 4: it's like, Oh, it's Airbnb, and he's like not till July.
Speaker 4: My friend and Randy and and DJ and I just
Speaker 4: kind of look at each other and we're like, what's.
Speaker 2: That head been in my head for a month? What
Speaker 2: he could have possibly been?
Speaker 1: All? Right?
Speaker 8: Overrated, underrated, It's time wrap it up. Oak Bridge National, Oh, underrated.
Speaker 1: I say underrated. I had a great time.
Speaker 4: After everybody dumps on it and I liked it.
Speaker 1: We went and looped looped nine last night at like
Speaker 1: seven o'clock. It was great.
Speaker 2: It's tough off the tea. I know that's gonna be
Speaker 2: your I know it's gonna be where you give it.
Speaker 2: Love marks, just good green. It has great greens. Complexes
Speaker 2: were great and condition greens no, but the green complexes
Speaker 2: were awesome. I'm gonna say underrated also, I mean better work. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and the whole plan that's going into for those that
Speaker 2: don't know, which is probably everybody.
Speaker 1: Yeah, oak Bridge National is the golf course right next
Speaker 1: to TVC sawgrass that are.
Speaker 4: The blog cabin.
Speaker 1: That cabin sits on second in between the first and
Speaker 1: second hole. That's where we have to shoot out. We've
Speaker 1: got literally we've got a view.
Speaker 4: We've got a view of.
Speaker 3: Crooked Toron's eighth snowman. What all happened with the double
Speaker 3: almost went in the water, then sure enough.
Speaker 1: Next shot off the next he found in his watery doom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say oak Bridge National underrated, especially since
Speaker 2: they're going to go through a very woke renovation changing
Speaker 2: into a twelve whole course kind of an after work
Speaker 2: after work course.
Speaker 1: Love it Uh.
Speaker 4: Underrated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna go next with seventeenth hole. Ooh that's
Speaker 1: a good one. Oh yeah, I mean I know I
Speaker 1: can see what you're where. You're trying to base into here,
Speaker 1: trying to bait us into going overrated.
Speaker 4: I think it's disappointing for me. Remember when the euro Tour,
Speaker 4: I think it was in Turkey, they did like the
Speaker 4: tee off the top of like an apartment building. There
Speaker 4: was a pool. Yeah, like they should do that, like
Speaker 4: you tea off from a hospitality.
Speaker 2: Ricky did that when he was doing like his media
Speaker 2: tour and they were having him hit shots. He was
Speaker 2: hitting shots from like up in like the golf Channel
Speaker 2: Conflex down to the green and it was awesome. It
Speaker 2: was like one it was like one eighty five coming
Speaker 2: into there from like forty feet up. I'm still gonna
Speaker 2: say underrated man, Like it's it's one of those places
Speaker 2: that like there is there is just nothing more fun,
Speaker 2: Like it's fun to watch all the all the strategy holes,
Speaker 2: it's fun to watch all that stuff, But like, there's
Speaker 2: nothing more fun on tour. I don't think than like
Speaker 2: going out with your friends and just yeah and just
Speaker 2: betting and everybody takes one guy on the tea who
Speaker 2: hits it closest, and just watching dudes make birdies, watching
Speaker 2: guys get ejected.
Speaker 1: It's just this Russell Knox. Russell Knox made like an
Speaker 1: eight or something. He made a nine. Well, he made
Speaker 1: a nine. And then he came back. He was talking
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 2: We did a piece that's going up today. We went
Speaker 2: back to seventeen with him, played it on a video game.
Speaker 2: He fared a little better, stuck a close spoiler. You
Speaker 2: heard it here first, hear first breaking give him a
Speaker 2: sneak peek, sneak peak.
Speaker 1: So you think I'm actually I underrated. I think it's
Speaker 1: just cool.
Speaker 3: It's a it's a it's a takeoff of like the
Speaker 3: whole idea of these short par threes being.
Speaker 5: Like hitted or you're done, like you know, a lot.
Speaker 3: Of places do it with bunkers and stuff, but but
Speaker 3: the seventeenth is, you know, it's the ultimate viewing spectacle.
Speaker 1: Porter seventeenth hole overrated, underrated.
Speaker 3: Uh, I'm just gonna make a sandwich like Tron's dad.
Speaker 1: You're trying to have a podcast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I say, I say overrated.
Speaker 1: Wo wow, But we all said underrated. I said it
Speaker 1: over Kyle.
Speaker 4: Those are those golf shoes.
Speaker 2: Is technically Porter may or may not of worn golf
Speaker 2: shoes to the golf course today.
Speaker 1: I'm in with big sunglasses now too.
Speaker 4: If you go to Oakley, big big, big, big optical,
Speaker 4: big optical compromise.
Speaker 1: What else we're gonna go with?
Speaker 8: Jacksonville way way underrated, way way overrated. Don't move here, Yeah,
Speaker 8: don't come here.
Speaker 3: I'm saying enough Jacksonville, not that, not your beach communities.
Speaker 1: I'm saying the city of Jacksonville, Well, it's.
Speaker 4: The largest city by geographic area in the country.
Speaker 1: Doesn't mean it's good. It is. Uh, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of variety. You love variety. There's a lot of variety.
Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of width in
Speaker 1: angles and strategy.
Speaker 4: That go in.
Speaker 1: You haven't seen anything here yet though.
Speaker 4: You haven't gone to like you even gone to Jagsga.
Speaker 1: You haven't gon a Jags game. You haven't gone to
Speaker 1: San Marco Riverside.
Speaker 3: You couldn't pay me to go watch Blake Bortols play football.
Speaker 1: Oh god, all right, we're getting off the rails, all.
Speaker 4: Right, DJ and I were talking about it, our plan
Speaker 4: for football season. If and when the Jaguars ever have
Speaker 4: a four o'clock game, which I don't think is ever
Speaker 4: has happened in like ten years.
Speaker 1: You can't watch them. They're all blacked out.
Speaker 4: If they know they do have a four o'clock game.
Speaker 4: We're gonna go play Hyde Park first thing in the
Speaker 4: morning at like six thirty am. The first one's off
Speaker 4: playing like two hours, and then go over to the Kwan,
Speaker 4: play the Kwan and then go Tokwana. So get thirty
Speaker 4: six in and then go tailgate and go to the
Speaker 4: Jags game.
Speaker 1: Donald Ross overrated, underrated.
Speaker 3: Uh, that's a good one. Never thought about asking this
Speaker 3: one though.
Speaker 4: There's so many designs ascribed to Donald Ross that he
Speaker 4: never even that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You gotta gotta take the whole body of worse. I'm
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, oh, rated because he's the most well known
Speaker 3: among the common golfers. So people will be like just
Speaker 3: over overrated by definition, it's a Donald Ross course, it's
Speaker 3: a Donald Ross course. But he's a great, great architect.
Speaker 3: I think he's just he's Yeah. I mean, like, in
Speaker 3: no way am I saying that Donald Ross is not good.
Speaker 5: I'm just saying he is high overrated.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Who's who's.
Speaker 5: Your ultimate high floor, low ceiling golfer.
Speaker 4: Couture?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, verified, verifiable.
Speaker 1: I can't believe you didn't go Westy there, m I
Speaker 1: should have so many? Are you going to just venmo me? Now,
Speaker 1: we'll see, we'll see how it goes.
Speaker 3: Oh, west he's gonna go out and dust stuff like
Speaker 3: a sixty six.
Speaker 1: Right, he definitely is, and then he's gonna overrated underrated.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I was actually gonna ask Michaelo.
Speaker 4: Ultra they're doing that thing today, right, I don't.
Speaker 1: Know, sixteen or seventeen, that's what they needed.
Speaker 3: The auto responder of the don't be offended if I
Speaker 3: don't reply. I would say Kopka is uh and then
Speaker 3: say he's I think he's underrated.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he's overrated.
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna play with this.
Speaker 4: He's a bomb and gowage specialist.
Speaker 7: All right, anything else, No, No, we'll be we'll be
Speaker 7: getting some out, you know, sorry for the delay and
Speaker 7: getting you know, the Yeah, it's work shopping, a lot
Speaker 7: of takes.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been amber.
Speaker 4: I need to fill I need to fill my take,
Speaker 4: my take th back.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, there's a there's a lot of busy travel,
Speaker 3: you know, getting accommodated, you know, sleep takes to.
Speaker 1: Get out and just watch some golf. It just kind
Speaker 1: of like kind of recharge on the table.
Speaker 3: We'll be out, We'll get some more of these out
Speaker 3: and enjoy the first round.
Speaker 4: And let's stick ken Duke in the field.
Speaker 1: Free dude, free dudel.
Speaker 4: H m hm