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Speaker 2: our life, this is our passion. That's the spirit we

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Speaker 2: bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 1: What did the five fingers say to the face? They said,

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Speaker 1: here's your oscar. Hi everybody, it is the twenty eighth

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Speaker 1: of March twenty twenty two, and it is time for

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Speaker 1: the show that slaps you in the middle of your

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Speaker 1: own monologue about someone's alopecia. It's Morning Combat. Hi everyone.

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Speaker 1: My name is Luke Thomas. I'm merely one half of

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Speaker 1: your hosting duo joining you from the capital of settles,

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Speaker 1: Nils right here in Washington, DC, joined by the Vice

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Speaker 1: Roy himself of Connecticut. Until Gilbert excuse me, until lever

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Speaker 1: Ticera loses his belt, he will be the king. It's

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell. What's a terrible intro? Brian? How are you? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: That was great, Luca. We don't imagine how bad, how

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Speaker 3: mad will Smith would have been if they played that

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Speaker 3: hasslehole video. Luke, You know, I mean that's would have

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Speaker 1: You know, you see you noticed I did not get

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Speaker 1: up and slap. Well, I couldn't because you were far away.

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Speaker 1: But even then I wouldn't have done it.

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Speaker 3: I would, by the way, I would have taken that

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Speaker 3: shit cold and hard like Chris Rock did. But more

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Speaker 3: to come on that in the future of this show, Luke,

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Speaker 3: we got a lot of actual fights to talk real fights.

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Speaker 1: I know, it's so weird everyone discussing what wasn't a

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Speaker 1: fight exactly, but a vi Well, I get yea something

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Speaker 1: of a violent incident, and it's like, dude, that's all

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Speaker 1: we do for a living, that's all we do. We

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Speaker 1: just talk about people hitting each other. Oh, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the show. We have a lot to get to UFC

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Speaker 1: Columbus results. We're gonna get to the big one fight

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Speaker 1: or on Saturday, their tenth anniversary. There was actually some

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Speaker 1: pretty good stuff on that. We'll talk about that a

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Speaker 3: Not talking about that shit at all.

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Speaker 1: Hold, I was just about to say, I was just

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Speaker 1: majority of that to extra credit. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: Nate Diaz, We're gonna talk about Tim Zoo, We're gonna

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Speaker 3: Now, what kind of content Luke? Well, then the good

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Speaker 1: Flaming hot takes. B See he's running that account. I

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Speaker 1: at L Thomas News BC. How was your weekend? There

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Speaker 1: was a lot of fights. What did you do? Did

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Speaker 1: you watch him? Did you catch it? This morning?

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Speaker 3: I did a mix of Saturday night and yesterday. What

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Speaker 3: a fun weekend? What a time, dude, What a time

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Speaker 3: for fights? I mean I could sit here and wax

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Speaker 3: coming off of a UFC London card which was insane,

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Speaker 3: looking for this performance. In fact, Luke, this is exactly

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about him a little bit later, but uh,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what to make of him. Obviously, when

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Speaker 1: he decides to go to heavyweight, that will be of

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Speaker 1: major consequence, but it's just hard to plan a calendar

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Speaker 1: right Like Curtis, Blades is actively competing. Far as we know,

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Speaker 1: Gon is actively competing. The champion just had surgery and

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Speaker 1: is rehabbing but is still well. We'll see what happens

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Speaker 1: with him. Actually, I don't even know what's gonna happen

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Speaker 1: with him. But to answer your question, B see, you've

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Speaker 1: got two vas out there, You've got Aspinall out there,

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Speaker 1: and you've got now Curtis Blade's reasserting himself. What's the

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Speaker 1: best way to do it? I still believe and I

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Speaker 1: know that people want to make different fights for different reasons.

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Speaker 1: So all I can tell you is a fight I

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Speaker 1: want to see that I think would still be valuable

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Speaker 1: for the division. I would like to see what he

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Speaker 1: called for. Maybe not for interim title per se, but

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Speaker 1: certainly I would like to see him fight Cyril Gone.

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Speaker 1: I think the way in which Curtis Blades won this

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Speaker 1: fight plus what we knew from before, which is, dude,

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Speaker 1: there's not a lot of guys at heavyweight. There's a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys at heavyweight who can wrestle defensively and offensively,

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Speaker 1: but there are very few guys who when Curtis Blades

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Speaker 1: wants to fight the way that he has previously, which

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Speaker 1: is just kind of like relentless takedowns, now, maybe he

451
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Speaker 1: could be a little more careful about them. That's an

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Speaker 1: interesting especially in a five round contest. You know, experiment.

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Speaker 1: I want to see Serial gone pass based on what

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Speaker 1: Francis did. I'm not saying Francis some kind of slouch,

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Speaker 1: even though wrestling is in his native skill necessarily either.

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Speaker 1: I'm just pointing out, like the kind of threat that

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Speaker 1: Curtis Blades poses, I feel like God should have to

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Speaker 1: pass that before we sort of figure out what else

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Speaker 1: is next for him. And if you're Blades and you

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Speaker 1: beat that, you beat the guy who's ranked number one,

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Speaker 1: that puts him back in front of Francis or whoever

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Speaker 1: ends up being there on the other end in a

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Speaker 1: very important way. Although I recognize that doesn't necessarily solve

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Speaker 1: all the problems about interim titles and champs and whatnot.

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Speaker 3: Do you think there's enough star power in Gon versus

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Speaker 3: Blade's foreign interim title to be worthy or do is

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Speaker 3: that no matter? At this point, God's proven self to

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Speaker 3: be legit despite having just lost.

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Speaker 1: But I don't know. I don't think is God just

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Speaker 1: lost a title fight like putting him back in an

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Speaker 1: interim one. It's kind of weird, you know.

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Speaker 3: That's why? You know? Look you did we mentioned basically

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Speaker 3: six names right here right a top of the division

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Speaker 3: that that we have that need that need big fights

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Speaker 3: this year. If we do what you did Gon versus Blades, God,

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Speaker 3: I love that fight. I love the style contrast. I

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Speaker 3: want to see it over five rounds. And Luke, again,

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Speaker 3: it's rare that I get excited or feel there's a

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Speaker 3: need for an interim belt, but I think that should

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Speaker 3: be for the interim title. And then here's what you

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Speaker 3: have to do next. Again, Luke, they don't pay me

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Speaker 3: the match make but I'm willing John Jones's heavyweight debut

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Speaker 3: against the greatest heavyweight champion of all time step A

484
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Speaker 3: Mio chitch. It sells itself as a pay per view

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Speaker 3: main event. And if I'm the UFC, I don't give

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Speaker 3: John everything he wants, but look like I meet him

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Speaker 3: a little bit, I'll pay him for this debut, right,

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's steep A dude. We're there for that fight.

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Speaker 3: It's huge. And then, Luke, how do you like these apples?

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Speaker 3: Tom Aspinall versus taychoy Vasa the find out who really

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Speaker 3: does f next? I mean, look, it kind of matches

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Speaker 3: and sells itself. Here, Okay, what.

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Speaker 1: If you did this? What if you did Curtis Blades

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Speaker 1: versus Steepe. You could put an interim title on that

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Speaker 1: one because Steepe, for folks who may not know, francis

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Speaker 1: obviously champion. So then the ranking would be as it stands,

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Speaker 1: and we haven't updated since Saturday's fights, but as it stands,

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Speaker 1: serial is number one, steep at two, Tay two of

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Speaker 1: us at three, Blades sitting at four. You could do

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Speaker 1: Blades versus Miochich, and that would be Here's because here's

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Speaker 1: the thing. B See, here's one thing that I'm doing

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Speaker 1: in my mind, I'm like reserving steep A Meochich for

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Speaker 1: John Jones's return because that, to me would be one

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Speaker 1: of the more important fights that they could make, maybe

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Speaker 1: frankly in UFC heavyweight history, at least non title, or

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Speaker 1: you could put a title on that one too. But

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Speaker 1: the thing I'm saying is I'm not denying Jones the

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Speaker 1: opportunity when he decides to come back. But dude, he

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Speaker 1: hasn't fought in two fucking years. Like, why are we

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Speaker 1: holding steep A for John if we don't even know

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Speaker 1: when John's coming back. Let's put steep A in rotation

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Speaker 1: with the people who are already there. Do you do

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Speaker 1: you agree with that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do. But I also wonder if those fights

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Speaker 3: play out the way you and I just said. I

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Speaker 3: think UFC ends up putting the interim title on the

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Speaker 3: Jones Stepe fight to make it even bigger. And I

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Speaker 3: think they say, hey, gone and Blades like, thank you

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Speaker 3: very much, but we don't need you for this at

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Speaker 3: this moment. And then Luke tell me, if I'm getting

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Speaker 3: real Cray Cray here, couldn't you separate If you're gonna

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Speaker 3: do John versus Stepe for the interim title, would you

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Speaker 3: want to then instead of Blades, gone, make Blades and

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Speaker 3: gone fight one of Aspinall and Tuivasa.

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Speaker 1: Because that's worth to see, picking off picking off both contenders.

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Speaker 1: Like people are like, oh, we don't want contenders to

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Speaker 1: fight each other, but it's like, okay, fine, but if

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Speaker 1: you did Aspinall versus Tuivasa, at least one of those

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Speaker 1: contenders emerges. If you do Aspinall versus X and Tuivasa

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Speaker 1: versus Y, it is at least potentially possible that both lose,

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Speaker 1: in which case you're like, you know, so there's a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a risk there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fair, Luke, it's good. It's fun though, And

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Speaker 3: think about it. It's not often that we have a

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Speaker 3: deep heavyweight, deep deep ish heavyweight division where there are

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Speaker 3: at least tell me if I'm wrong, there are at

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Speaker 3: least five UFC heavyweights right now that you think legitimately

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Speaker 3: could be Champion of the Year.

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Speaker 1: So that we know Francis could be because he is.

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Speaker 1: I think Gone could do it. Could Steepe do it?

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Speaker 3: He's sure the fuck could Luke. Let's put some respect

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Speaker 3: on say yeah, he could do it. I've been disrespecting

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Speaker 3: to him his whole career.

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Speaker 1: Let's put I would bet. I would bet on Francis

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Speaker 1: to win another fight. But yes, you're right, like it

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Speaker 1: would be foolish to say he couldn't do it. Okay,

547
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Speaker 1: So then you need two more Aspinall and maybe Blades. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what Ti to e Vasa, I do think

549
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Speaker 1: is very very good, But I'm I don't know that

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Speaker 1: I see his upside as quite as high as Aspinall

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Speaker 1: and Blades. I think has you know, lost to Derek

552
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Speaker 1: Lewis and I realized I beat him. So there's a

553
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Speaker 1: little mma math involved. But would you pick Tie to

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Speaker 1: beat Curtis Blades? I would pick Curtis Blades to win.

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Speaker 3: Dude, that's a great fight. That's a great freaking fight. Seriously,

556
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Speaker 3: that's a's and.

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Speaker 1: They're currently ranked right next to each other three and four.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, let's do that in a stadium in England.

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Speaker 3: Good guy, You know, Luke, I you know I could

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Speaker 3: do some consulting work for matchmaking. Seriously, seriously, Okay.

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Speaker 1: I'll say this, the top six or seven at heavyweight

562
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Speaker 1: is fun. Right now. You've got Francis, Cyril, Steepe, Tye, Curtis, Derek,

563
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Speaker 1: tom aspinall, and then you got Volkov sitting at seven

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Speaker 1: even he's still pretty fun. Everything I just listed up there,

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Speaker 1: all of the and by the way, I haven't even

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Speaker 1: mentioned John Jones throwing John Jones there, all of those permutations.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of fun you could have with that,

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Speaker 1: Like there's there's some decent fun to be had at heavyweight.

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Speaker 3: Four s Yeah, heat check moment, BC, heat check moment.

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Speaker 3: I'm just heaving them in. Remember, like Steph Curry, but

571
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Speaker 3: warm ups from like the tunnel and he's just waxing it.

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Speaker 3: If Francis comes back to the UFC and stays here

573
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Speaker 3: are we walking into right now? The golden era of

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Speaker 3: the UFC heavyweight division, the most maligned, up and down

575
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Speaker 3: inconsistent division in this company's history. We know, Luke, that

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Speaker 3: that little window when Cain jds ver Doom like that

577
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Speaker 3: was you know, Lesnar, that was a fun time. But

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Speaker 3: we've never really had more than two to three guys

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Speaker 3: with a pulse at one time competing and fighting each other.

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Speaker 3: Are we entering something truly special here, Luke, We might be,

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Speaker 3: We might be.

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Speaker 1: You know, as MMA goes, I mean, MMA heavyweights have

583
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Speaker 1: had some great moments and a lot of times when

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Speaker 1: folks weren't looking. You know, early UFC, when you had

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Speaker 1: Pedro hisso versus Andre Rolovski or Katour versus back when

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Speaker 1: he was before the War, master of the baby Face

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Speaker 1: assassin Josh Barnett. Those were not on the same level,

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Speaker 1: but those were pretty fun days. There was a bit

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Speaker 1: of an interesting battle though obviously UFC was much not

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Speaker 1: nearly as good when it was Pride versus UFC, kind

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Speaker 1: of heavyweight theoretical battles when it was Face, you know

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four when Fador fought crow Cop. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that was a pretty great heavyweight era. But I think

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Speaker 1: what I'll say is this BC one as good as

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Speaker 1: Fador Versus crow Cop was, and those guys are true heavyweights.

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Speaker 1: These are like true heavyweights. These guys could not make

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Speaker 1: two h five in many cases dawk is notwithstanding, but

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Speaker 1: certainly blades gone, that kind of thing could not make

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Speaker 1: light heavyweight if their lives dependent on it. And the

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Speaker 1: other thing I would say is we celebrated fad Or

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Speaker 1: Versus crow Cop in two thousand and four when it

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Speaker 1: happened two thousand and five, whenever it was at the

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Speaker 1: time as being like really great. I mean, they had

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Speaker 1: sold out there, like ninety thousand people there when they

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Speaker 1: watched it. This era, I think you were right to

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Speaker 1: point out very maligned, very maligned heavyweight era heavyweight MMA

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Speaker 1: is just bullshit. And you know, relative to Ban someweight,

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Speaker 1: it isn't nearly as good that that's a fair point.

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Speaker 1: But I think relative to how maligned it is, when

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Speaker 1: you actually compare about how fun and good it could be,

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Speaker 1: I think this era stands in a fairly unique spot. Well.

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Speaker 3: Also, look, it's just it took a while for that

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Speaker 3: division to evolve to the standards of the modern game.

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Speaker 3: I'm not here to crap on Tim Sylvia as UFC

615
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Speaker 3: heavyweight champion or you know, a young Arlovski or Rico Rodriguez.

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Speaker 3: And of course, you know I tend to sometimes over

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Speaker 3: inflate Randy Cator's true value, but you know, you look

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Speaker 3: back on those guys and you see how limited they were,

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Speaker 3: and typically look, because they're bigger, heavyweights tend to be

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Speaker 3: less skilled in comparison, which is why we spend time

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Speaker 3: debating pound for pound lists. But dude, that's changing, right

622
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Speaker 3: from Benganu to aspinall to you know, up and down.

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Speaker 3: I mean Stepe even why is he considered, you know,

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Speaker 3: the most decorated greatest heavyweight in UFC history because he's really,

625
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Speaker 3: in a lot of ways was so perfectly well rounded

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Speaker 3: and tough as nails that it was like a new

627
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: era was upon us. So yeah, Luke, I think you know,

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Speaker 3: and while you mentioned Fador in crow Cop right, that

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Speaker 3: wasn't UFC, and I am talking specifically UFC. This really

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00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 3: could be something special, But we do need Francis to

631
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Speaker 3: re sign, and we do need him to get healthy,

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Speaker 3: and then every fight from here on out afterwards is

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Speaker 3: going to be a blockbuster, Luke, it really will be.

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Speaker 3: I mean, when you got this many capable names, so

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Speaker 3: I just got myself really excited about this.

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Speaker 1: No doubt about it. Okay, So we go to now

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Speaker 1: point number two. Topic number two, we stay with UFC Columbus.

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Speaker 1: How about this. We'll talk about Alexa Grasso and everything else.

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Speaker 1: We got to talk about this one for the Flyway title,

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Speaker 1: although in either direction. At one twenty five, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be an implication here. We'll talk about kay car France

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Speaker 1: defeating Askar Askarov BC. I mean, I'm gonna say this.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. See if you agree with me,

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Speaker 1: and then take it from here. That to me, while

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Speaker 1: he had a knockout against Cody Garbrandt in his previous fight,

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Speaker 1: Kai carra France did for me this was by far

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Speaker 1: the most important fight of Kai car France's career. And

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this is the fight to me where

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Speaker 1: he showed far more well rounded ability, not just in

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Speaker 1: terms of you know, wrestling versus grappling versus striking, but

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Speaker 1: in mixing them, in strategizing, in everything. I was super impressed.

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Speaker 1: Was this the best performance of Kai car France's career?

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Speaker 3: Okay, let me answer that first. Yes, it was. At

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Speaker 3: twenty nine. He's put it together. He had a couple

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Speaker 3: of early UFC losses. We know of the pedigree, you No,

656
00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 3: we know of the gym's pedigree. Really what I'm saying there,

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Speaker 3: but Luke, he has lived up to the reputation of

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Speaker 3: that gym on this three fight win streak. Is this

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Speaker 3: more impressive and important than a suspect Cody Garbrant moving down?

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Speaker 1: And wait?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely? Because Askaroff is that dude that we talked about

662
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Speaker 3: last week and I said, you know, this might be

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Speaker 3: the best flyweight in the world right now. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to find out what happens in this KK France fight.

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Speaker 3: So to answer your question, yes, but before I'm ready

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Speaker 3: to fully celebrate f Kai car France with you, I

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Speaker 3: got to ask you this, Luke. How about I not

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Speaker 3: ask you? How about I tell you I don't think

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Speaker 3: he won this fight, Luke, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean, I don't. Fuck off. I gave him the third first, okay,

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Speaker 1: So let me just see this first first there, first round, Askarov,

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Speaker 1: second round France, right, so you're giving him the third,

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Speaker 1: give me the case for the third.

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Speaker 3: So here's the case for the third. So am I

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Speaker 3: saying it was robbery? Absolutely not? This was a great

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Speaker 3: not a great it was a very good close fight

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Speaker 3: between two guys rank two and six that are among

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Speaker 3: the elite core of this fun as shit division. Flyweight. Okay,

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Speaker 3: but here's the deal. You nailed it first round, Askroov

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Speaker 3: all the way. Second round, Kaikr Franz put on striking,

681
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Speaker 3: you know. Display here's the third round, though, Luke, Askrov

682
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Speaker 3: gets the early advantage by taking him down and then

683
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Speaker 3: getting to the back and threatening a submission again. And

684
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Speaker 3: he was doing the backpack thing a couple times in

685
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Speaker 3: this fight. No, he didn't get it, but obviously, Luke,

686
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Speaker 3: when you are putting the thread on of a submission,

687
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Speaker 3: it's part of the criteria for scoring a fight. I know.

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Speaker 3: In the final two minutes, and I do give car

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Speaker 3: France for credit for being so poised. He didn't rush it,

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Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying, like the clock sticking down,

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Speaker 3: but he didn't rush it. He put together a couple punches, yes,

692
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Speaker 3: but Askrov was also countering clean an had a big

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Speaker 3: right handed his own in the final minute. That when

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Speaker 3: you're doing the math scoring the round for yourself. Did

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Speaker 3: you like car France's striking in the final two minutes

696
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Speaker 3: a little bit better than askarovs, Yes, I did too,

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Speaker 3: but you do have to weigh in taking him down

698
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Speaker 3: and once again taking his back in that quick transition.

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Speaker 3: I saw an Askarov that was trying to win the

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Speaker 3: fight constantly. I think it's close, but I think there's

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Speaker 3: a strong case for ten to nine Askarov in that

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Speaker 3: final round. And I think the fact that all three

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Speaker 3: judges went twenty nine to twenty eight, it's like what

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Speaker 3: I have felt better if it was a majority or

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Speaker 3: a split decision and KK France still wins. I don't know, Luke.

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Speaker 3: All I'm saying here is I'm not crying robbery. I'm

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Speaker 3: not trying to back up my prediction that Askarov is

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Speaker 3: that dude. He's still maybe that dude even with this loss.

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Speaker 3: Although let's be critically fair, I want Askarf to be

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Speaker 3: a little bit more aggressive striking wise than he was,

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Speaker 3: but I think he was surprised by how good car

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Speaker 3: Francis striking was. You know. I just think, Luke, at

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Speaker 3: the end of the day, it was more of a

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Speaker 3: flip the coin on what you preferred. In that third round.

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Speaker 3: I don't think it was slam dunk because car Frank's

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Speaker 3: landed two clean punches in the final couple of minutes

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Speaker 3: that he automatically wins that round.

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Speaker 1: I just don't mean MMA fans. There's a there's a

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Speaker 1: subset of them in which I would put you in

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Speaker 1: that in that category who are not willing to attest

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Speaker 1: to the meaningfulness of light kicks. Let me read you

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Speaker 1: some stats here. Here's why, here's why I can't give

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Speaker 1: him the third round. Now, I grant that the backpacking

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Speaker 1: has to count for something. I give you that. This

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Speaker 1: is why I asked her. Askarov won the first round.

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Speaker 1: His control time right three minutes and nine seconds, two

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Speaker 1: sub attempts with a takedown. Quantitatively, he only landed three strikes,

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Speaker 1: but kay Car France only landed four. So it's basically

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Speaker 1: neutral there, and then you have all of this other

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Speaker 1: stuff that happened on top of it. Okay, he won

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Speaker 1: that round. Fast forward to the third. He has one

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Speaker 1: minute and seven seconds of control time, which is good.

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Speaker 1: That definitely counts. I recognize that's real zero for three

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Speaker 1: on takedown attempts. He had twelve significant strikes to Kai

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Speaker 1: Kara Francis twenty three. I granted it was a bit

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Speaker 1: of a right hand there, and I granted he had

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Speaker 1: the backpack. The problem with Askarov that in my fight,

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Speaker 1: and sorry, in my mind, in this fight, even in

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Speaker 1: the first round he won on control time, he just

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Speaker 1: wasn't putting a lot of dynamic offense behind the control positions.

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Speaker 1: He was kind of going for subs. They weren't all

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Speaker 1: They were kind of close at times, they weren't really

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Speaker 1: all that close. I thought the hand fighting from the

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Speaker 1: back was really good from Carra France, and then on

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Speaker 1: top of it, at distance he was getting leg kicked

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Speaker 1: to death was at least relative to what Askarov could do.

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Speaker 1: I went back and I watched that third round again

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Speaker 1: this morning just to be sure that I saw it

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Speaker 1: the way that i'd seen it the first time. And yeah, dude,

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Speaker 1: it was pretty clear to me that he did it.

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Speaker 1: Askarov was trying, I grant you. I think that layoff

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Speaker 1: kind of hurt him a little bit. I think that

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Speaker 1: layoff where he was off for like a year or more. Sure,

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Speaker 1: he just seemed a little bit not fully putting all

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Speaker 1: of his pieces of his offense together. So what I'll say,

756
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Speaker 1: I'll pitch it back to YOUBC. I'll say this, I

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Speaker 1: think that was not Askarov's best performance by a long shot.

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Speaker 1: Think he'll, you know, when he gets back and gets

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Speaker 1: in the groove, I think this he's gonna see some

760
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: people at the top of this division again. But on

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Speaker 1: this night, Kay car Franz stuffing two of fourteen takedowns,

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Speaker 1: preventing Askrov from doing anything meaningful with control positions, and

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Speaker 1: then really not giving that much of it away in

764
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Speaker 1: the third round relative to else he had done for

765
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Speaker 1: me makes him the clear winner in the third.

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Speaker 3: And I know it's easy to say BC or crazy

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Speaker 3: because Kai car France had the biggest moments, specifically in

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Speaker 3: that second round. He had huge moments. Obviously not enough

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Speaker 3: for a ten eight round, but you know that stands

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Speaker 3: out in your mind that when you're going, okay, am

771
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Speaker 3: I really going to split hairs? When I saw this

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Speaker 3: guy land the better shots, Well, you know, I think

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Speaker 3: in that third round it ends up being a coin flip.

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Speaker 3: But I get what you're saying. You would have loved

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Speaker 3: this to be a five round fight. And I think

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Speaker 3: that's the only argument I make from time to time

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Speaker 3: is if it's a borderline or an actual number one

778
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Speaker 3: contender fight, kind of want that to be a five

779
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,760
Speaker 3: round fight because it's supposed to prepare you for a title,

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Speaker 3: and you know, there's situations where there's people that are

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Speaker 3: end up in five round fights because they're in a

782
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Speaker 3: fight night main event, and you're like, that guy shouldn't

783
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Speaker 3: be anywhere near a five round fight. This is a

784
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Speaker 3: case where I would have liked to have seen it

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Speaker 3: now based on where they were at the end of three.

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Speaker 3: Is car France looking like the fresher fighter who probably

787
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Speaker 3: wins that anyway if it's five rounds, probably yes. I

788
00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,319
Speaker 3: think we're gonna end up seeing this again down the road.

789
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Speaker 3: I think you can. It's a strong bet to say

790
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,759
Speaker 3: Askarov will end up fighting for a title in this

791
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 3: division eventually. But I think you're right. He wasn't offensive

792
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Speaker 3: enough in the key spots. It hurts the argument of

793
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:26,959
Speaker 3: trying to claim that he might have won this fight

794
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 3: or you know, at worse and a flip the coin

795
00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 3: situation in the third round. But I also wonder about

796
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 3: that risk injury recovery. He didn't look like he had

797
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,879
Speaker 3: the same confidence in his boxing that he typically does.

798
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:42,799
Speaker 3: He was he was over dependent on his hones grappling game. Now,

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Speaker 3: with that said, Luke, we got that debate out of

800
00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: the way. Was this the breakthrough fight, kay car ference, absolutely, Luke,

801
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: he is. He is rolling right now with not only

802
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 3: a level of confidence that's impressive. And even though it

803
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: was cheesy as shit to do the oge to the crowd,

804
00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 3: it worked. So shout out to Kaye car.

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Speaker 1: Hey, dude, jise And don't you remember that Ohio crowd

806
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: Grant and his opponent was Russian and people are just

807
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: being totally irrational about any normal Russian at this point.

808
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: But I did hear them cheering his name and then

809
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,399
Speaker 1: he goes and he does the oh and they said

810
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 1: Ohio or whatever. How for the stupid chant goes DDE.

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Speaker 1: I thought that was pretty cool. Actually, I thought that

812
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: was a nice little moment there, Dude.

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Speaker 3: It worked. And my point on that is like he's

814
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Speaker 3: feeling himself and this is typically what happens when everything

815
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,759
Speaker 3: comes together in your game. I give him credit for that. Luke.

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Speaker 3: Remember the question I asked you? I think it was

817
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 3: on Friday Show. I said, look, you know, and I

818
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Speaker 3: expected a more offensive askarov for whatever reason, maybe it

819
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Speaker 3: was kay car Franc's speed in accuracy. We didn't see it,

820
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: but I said, does does car Fance really have the

821
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 3: fire power that he needs? To to kind of get

822
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Speaker 3: the upper hand and potentially walk through Askarov. And I didn't.

823
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Speaker 3: I didn't believe it, Luke. I had to see it.

824
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Speaker 3: He does have that firepower. He's absolutely legit. And you know,

825
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: let's be honest here, we know we're going to a

826
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Speaker 3: fourth figuredo moreno fight for the title. If I'm kai

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Speaker 3: Car France, I look because he may have just secured it.

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Speaker 3: I might be what he have to beat dude who.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, that's the thing again, I

830
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Speaker 1: really do believe that that was not Askarov's best showing.

831
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Speaker 1: And you have it, not that it was a poor

832
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: showing or something, but the time off, I don't know,

833
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: he didn't quite look fully himself. But I'll say this

834
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:19,360
Speaker 1: about about Kaikara France. I did not think he was

835
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Speaker 1: going to win this contest. And you know MEBC, I'm

836
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: as biased towards those New Zealand fellas as anybody. And

837
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Speaker 1: I mean, I knew he was good on the feet

838
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Speaker 1: and can make it a fight, but I kind of

839
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Speaker 1: thought he'd get overwhelmed in the end, and he didn't

840
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: to ask her. If you would have told MEBC that

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00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,200
Speaker 1: Askar Askarov in a three round contest was only going

842
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: to get two of fourteen takedowns, I'd be like, no chance,

843
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 1: not a chance in hell. And that is the actual truth.

844
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Speaker 1: He only got two of fourteen. I cannot believe that,

845
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: but that's what happened. Dude, Kaikar France and Adasania and

846
00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:50,880
Speaker 1: a lot of those guys, they get kind of labeled

847
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: because it's from City Kickboxing that that's all they can do.

848
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: And for a time they did have pretty clear vulnerabilities

849
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 1: in sort of the grappling the wrestling side of the game.

850
00:39:59,680 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 1: And I I'm not here to say that they're going

851
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: to go out wrestle Bo Nickel tomorrow, but it is

852
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,920
Speaker 1: also pretty clear at this point that they have brought

853
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,920
Speaker 1: in a lot of additional help to get them up

854
00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: to speed. And dude, you're not gonna take down Atasigna

855
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 1: very easily. You are not going to take down kay

856
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 1: Kara France very easily. It's going to be very very

857
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 1: difficult to do. And when you stand at range with them,

858
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna fuck you up. Those guys are good now,

859
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,320
Speaker 1: very good, very well rounded. And I really really loved

860
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,160
Speaker 1: a lot of the decision making here. I loved how

861
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:31,680
Speaker 1: we pressed Askar askarov back. It was more than just oh,

862
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 1: he's not getting overwhelmed in the grappling department. Although Askarov

863
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,360
Speaker 1: catching the back early in the first round wasn't great,

864
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 1: but it was more just like the strategic thinking through

865
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: the second round to make that left hook land a

866
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: little bit better, trying to come on top of the

867
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 1: jab or at least a hook and depending on the

868
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,480
Speaker 1: stance of what Askarov was doing. And I want to

869
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,560
Speaker 1: say one more thing, BC, I see this all the time.

870
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: Certainly Askarov is not interested in my opinions on grappling,

871
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,200
Speaker 1: but I have noticed a lot man in mma today.

872
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 1: If you put on the body triangle we've talked about,

873
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 1: as John Danaher has made a point that if you

874
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:04,359
Speaker 1: do the body triangle, it's it's still it's not a

875
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,759
Speaker 1: neutral fight because one person is giving the back, but

876
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: it's still two hands versus two hands, and one head

877
00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 1: versus one head. It's it's still mathematically a fairly similar

878
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: kind of struggle. When you incorporate and take away what

879
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: use your leg to take away one of their arms,

880
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 1: Now you have two arms versus their one, and that

881
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 1: becomes a much easier kind of battle. Pay attention to

882
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: how many times people put on the body triangle and

883
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 1: then struggle the rest of the round to get the choke,

884
00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: because the hand fighting has become so good, even against

885
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,160
Speaker 1: guys who are kickboxers by trade like Kaikara France, that

886
00:41:36,280 --> 00:41:39,800
Speaker 1: you can now get the back and for three minutes

887
00:41:39,840 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: and nine seconds you can't do fuck all with it.

888
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 1: Look something to pay attention to.

889
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,560
Speaker 3: Let me let me let me double on that and say.

890
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:50,800
Speaker 3: Sometimes DC gets much maligned as a commentator because Dominic

891
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 3: Cruz says he doesn't watch enough tape and he's more

892
00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:55,160
Speaker 3: of an entertainer at times than an explainer. I think

893
00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 3: since that moment, DC's been stepping up his game and

894
00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 3: his obviously breakdowns of the wrestling is, you know, as

895
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 3: educated as anyone. I love what he said about when

896
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: when when Askarov had the backpack on in the first round,

897
00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: He's saying, look, you see a guy around the back

898
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 3: of the other trying to go for a choke. You're

899
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 3: you're thinking about the pressure on kai Car Franz's legs,

900
00:42:17,640 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 3: But how about the gas that Askarov is wasting trying

901
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: to hold himself up on there. I think that's part

902
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 3: of it too, Luke, that took a lot out of

903
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 3: him attempting to go for that choke in the backpack

904
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,840
Speaker 3: position that I don't know, it's interesting. Look I'll say this,

905
00:42:31,080 --> 00:42:34,760
Speaker 3: Kai car France. The takedown defense was key. The striking

906
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:36,960
Speaker 3: is what was flashy. But he was so good in

907
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 3: that second round. I think a lot of people get

908
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:40,919
Speaker 3: knocked out with those type of punches that he landed

909
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 3: on Askarov, Like Askrov had a bite down there, dude.

910
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 3: So so look, I got nothing bad to say about

911
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 3: your boy KK France here. I want to say a

912
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: lot of good things though about this division as a whole.

913
00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 3: I don't know if you watch deep on that undercard Luke,

914
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 3: but that Flyway from Brazil Mattias Nicolau lot that I

915
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 3: looked great against David Devora in you know, up and

916
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 3: down this top ten in the post Demitrius Johnson post

917
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 3: Henry Sejudo era of one twenty five in which it

918
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 3: survived almost being thrown in the dumpster. It's not only

919
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 3: must see no matter who's fighting seriously, from like Boneterene

920
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,440
Speaker 3: to tim Ellie, I mean every like, dude, if it's

921
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 3: a Flyway fight, I'm freaking circling it on the on

922
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 3: the fight night calendar. Where does flyweight belong right now?

923
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:29,280
Speaker 3: In Luke Thomas's poumph for pound top five best divisions

924
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: in the UFC.

925
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: So we'd go batam, still might go light yep, and then.

926
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 3: You gotta go, you gotta go women's straw. I'm walking

927
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: out of this studio, Luke, Okay.

928
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, women's straw, sure, and then probably featherweight and welterweight

929
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: in some kind of order there. So I still wouldn't

930
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:50,400
Speaker 1: have it. Here's the one thing I would say, rememberh

931
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: they were getting rid of it. I still believe this,

932
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 1: So I really do, at least from a commercial standpoint,

933
00:43:54,880 --> 00:43:58,480
Speaker 1: I think it'd be better if we actually had one

934
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 1: five one sixty seventy five, one eighty five, two oh five.

935
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: I actually think that would be much better for all

936
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 1: parties involved. But I do recognize that while the flyweight

937
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 1: division was depleted, its resurgence should not be seen as

938
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,799
Speaker 1: an accident. As EMMA becomes more global and there's more

939
00:44:15,800 --> 00:44:18,879
Speaker 1: talent recruited and everything develops along the way. It has

940
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: certainly proven to be a very valuable division for the

941
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: Ultimate Fighting Championship and any organization that has a deep

942
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:26,319
Speaker 1: division with one twenty five in it.

943
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,480
Speaker 3: Okay, did you put welter in middle that f four

944
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: and five? Did you just do this?

945
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,240
Speaker 1: No feather, feather in welter Okay, Look.

946
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 3: Dude, feather's the sneakiest division in the UFC right now.

947
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 3: You're right, it does belong in the top five. But

948
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,640
Speaker 3: I gotta take welter out of there, and I got

949
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 3: to throw flyweight in. It's not as deep, it's not

950
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: as deep with world class names, but the entertainment value

951
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 3: and the elite parody across the board. Dude, I think

952
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 3: flyweight belongs at number five. And Luke, I think all

953
00:44:51,320 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 3: heavyweight should be above welterweight. At this point, I said it.

954
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,200
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, I mean saying what you're just saying. Words.

955
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 3: No, I'm not, dude. I love welterweight, but it's wrestle

956
00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 3: heavy Luke. It's I mean, we got, you know, we gotta.

957
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,840
Speaker 1: I mean, the back half of it is, well here,

958
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,960
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the part of it there. I'll say

959
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: this welter weight is in the middle of turnover. You

960
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: got you know, you got what's happening with mas Buttol.

961
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 1: He's obviously getting older, just lost wonder boy kind of

962
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 1: can't get back beat some of the better guys. But

963
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, it's very old, I think think close to

964
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: forty at this point, and so there's a little bit

965
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: and Vicenti Luke has been on the way up for

966
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: a while. Leon Edwards is dude. There's just some turnover

967
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,759
Speaker 1: that needs to happen, both with guys aging and guys

968
00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: who've been around for a long time who've been denied opportunity.

969
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:34,960
Speaker 1: And I think that will flush some of it through,

970
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: because you remember, you have Sean Brady on the come up,

971
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: Hamsat Chamayev on the come up, Chopcott Rockmanov on the

972
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: come up. There's a lot of names in that division

973
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:44,160
Speaker 1: that are gonna, I think, tear through a lot of

974
00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:45,840
Speaker 1: people that are gonna burn some excitement to it. But

975
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:50,279
Speaker 1: I grant your point, flyweight is for as good as

976
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:52,320
Speaker 1: it is and how valuable it is to have for

977
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:57,320
Speaker 1: guys that talented, it is too quite maligned unfairly and

978
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: it's I'm glad to see it back in doing what

979
00:45:59,520 --> 00:45:59,919
Speaker 1: it's doing.

980
00:46:01,000 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: Say that women's Bannam, fly and feather are the three

981
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: worst divisions in the.

982
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 1: UFC Women's flyweight, well, I mean, here's the thing about

983
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: women's flyweight. Like, okay, you it needs some turnover. It

984
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: needs some turnover, is what I would say. Because at

985
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,759
Speaker 1: the top we talked about this. Androge is number one ranked,

986
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:31,479
Speaker 1: already lost, Chikegan already lost, Murphy already lost, Maya already lost. Dude,

987
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:34,320
Speaker 1: you're the fifth ranked contender. Who's good. Tyler Santos is

988
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 1: quite good. But it's pretty rare to see them be like, Okay, well,

989
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 1: let's just go down the list. Oh, the top four

990
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,279
Speaker 1: have already lost convincingly. Let's go to Tyler Santos. That

991
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 1: is so rare. Granted, they got a tough champion at

992
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,959
Speaker 1: the top. Yeah, it's not it's not a great division.

993
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,160
Speaker 3: But it look it's got some long term turnover potential

994
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 3: from Manon Pharaoh, who's going to be a big part

995
00:46:53,080 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 3: of extra turnit to Tachiana Suarez, the much forgotten name

996
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 3: to a few others. But I know it is what

997
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 3: it is at the end of the day. And also, Luke,

998
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 3: your explo exploit of use of the word come up

999
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 3: reminds me of MK Doc six when you and I

1000
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 3: are getting dressed for the awards show in the room

1001
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,279
Speaker 3: and Jake's got that music creeping on the come up

1002
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 3: and we walked down the hallway like bosses. I'm like,

1003
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,879
Speaker 3: oh yeah, bone thug, you.

1004
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,160
Speaker 1: All right, BC. Topic number three will stay with the card.

1005
00:47:22,239 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 1: You had mentioned someone else, but I want to give

1006
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:25,480
Speaker 1: you the florid to give any other name you'd like

1007
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 1: to who else stood out to you from this card,

1008
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 1: because by the way, there was a few standout performances

1009
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: here that deserve to be recognized.

1010
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 3: Dude, sneaky good card across the board. Not the action

1011
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 3: and crowd participation of UFC London, but a lot of

1012
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,399
Speaker 3: people had really strong performances and made leaps. Luke, Mark

1013
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 3: Chacasey is coming the hell on, dude, He's a wrestler.

1014
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,680
Speaker 3: So here's the deal. I didn't even get excited about

1015
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:53,520
Speaker 3: this fight because I forgot on paper that Vlachslev Borschev

1016
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,200
Speaker 3: is freaking Slava clause it's mister Fabers guy.

1017
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: Dude.

1018
00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 3: When when he walked out and it turns out he

1019
00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 3: was the same guy, I was like, Yeah, this fight's

1020
00:48:02,320 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 3: gonna bang, Luke, the fight didn't bang at all because

1021
00:48:05,239 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 3: Mark Jacasey, who has you know, has has juggled the

1022
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 3: wins and losses, has looked the part of aggressive, entertaining,

1023
00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 3: can do anything at any time, Striker, and then that

1024
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: didn't really go anywhere, and he's been in the ups

1025
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 3: and downs his commitment to just suffocating Slava clause and

1026
00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 3: really just taking the fight away from him entertaining as hell. No,

1027
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,920
Speaker 3: but you want to talk about life preserver, you want

1028
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 3: to talk about starting a new run when he's still

1029
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,839
Speaker 3: so young and like Curtis, Blade's going off of his

1030
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 3: skill to round himself out. Luke, I had to be

1031
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 3: impressed by this, dude. You had to be as well.

1032
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about it. I didn't see that coming.

1033
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: I did not see a thirty twenty seven off the

1034
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:52,760
Speaker 1: back of wrestling coming. Let me pull up his stats

1035
00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 1: here if I can. Because I didn't watch this live,

1036
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: and then I saw all of the reactions to it,

1037
00:48:57,719 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm like, you gotta be k I mean, I knew

1038
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,399
Speaker 1: he was, like, you know, decently well rounded or something.

1039
00:49:02,440 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 1: I didn't know he was gonna score ready for this

1040
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:10,520
Speaker 1: BC eleven takedowns eleven three in the first, three in

1041
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:14,240
Speaker 1: the second, five in the third. He was a fucking

1042
00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,719
Speaker 1: sheet of ice over that rushing. Yeah, how about his

1043
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,760
Speaker 1: control time? BC three point fifty five in the first,

1044
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:23,239
Speaker 1: four to oh eight in the second, and ready for

1045
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 1: this one, four twenty one in the third. This dude

1046
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:29,759
Speaker 1: was barely The only time this guy could stretch his

1047
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 1: arms was when he was in between rounds, sitting on

1048
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: the stool. It's ridiculous how this guy was all over him.

1049
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 3: And he's still only twenty nine. And you know that

1050
00:49:37,840 --> 00:49:39,960
Speaker 3: he had he had come back before from a three

1051
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 3: fight losing streak in one two in a row, but

1052
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 3: then he lost two in a row. And when you

1053
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:47,239
Speaker 3: get in that rut, Luke, you become, you know, a

1054
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:50,799
Speaker 3: journeyman who can become an expendable journeyman once you once

1055
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: you lose more than you win. This is a big win.

1056
00:49:53,280 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 3: I mean, this opens up the door to what he

1057
00:49:56,239 --> 00:49:58,280
Speaker 3: might be able to be, obviously in a tough division

1058
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 3: at lightweight. I love to see that, and I want

1059
00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:02,520
Speaker 3: to shout out another. I know you're gonna pump up

1060
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,240
Speaker 3: Alexa Grosso on extra credit. I got two other names

1061
00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 3: to talk about quickly, Luke. I don't always talk nice

1062
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:11,399
Speaker 3: about Sarah McMahon. I respect her, I just always feel

1063
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:15,279
Speaker 3: like it's an older retread from the Rousierra. Right, she's

1064
00:50:15,360 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: forty one, and you know and I saw what Juliana

1065
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 3: Payne did a year and a half ago. She went

1066
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,480
Speaker 3: out there but against Carol Hosa Luke and just was

1067
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,879
Speaker 3: aggressive as shit in all the strong ways. That has

1068
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:30,280
Speaker 3: made her, you know, a perennial threat in this division,

1069
00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 3: which you know, really bandam Wight has not been deep

1070
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 3: since Amanda Nunas took the torch and ran it through

1071
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:38,439
Speaker 3: shot out to Sarah McMahon at forty one Luke, because

1072
00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 3: you know, you never know how much longer someone has

1073
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,400
Speaker 3: left when they're fighting on their name. Still, she's not

1074
00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:46,839
Speaker 3: fighting on her name with this performance. She's always in

1075
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 3: tip top shape and she used her strength to her advantage.

1076
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 3: Obviously you know she's gonna take the fight to the ground,

1077
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 3: but the constant threat of submissions. I was not only impressed,

1078
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,040
Speaker 3: I want to see.

1079
00:50:56,920 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Her again, Yeah, I was certainly agree with that. Can

1080
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:04,400
Speaker 1: I take this moment to shout out the guy who

1081
00:51:05,000 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: he didn't win in his hometown, but I was happy

1082
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,000
Speaker 1: to see him get that opportunity. How about Matt Brown

1083
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:13,480
Speaker 1: and Brian Barberina bro I mean they went after each Now.

1084
00:51:13,520 --> 00:51:15,279
Speaker 1: I thought people being like Fight of the Year was

1085
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: a little strong. I didn't quite see it that way,

1086
00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: but it was a hell of a fight back and forth.

1087
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 1: It sucks that Matt Brown did not get a win

1088
00:51:23,239 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 1: in his hometown. I feel terrible for him for that,

1089
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: but Barbarina was the rightful winner. I mean, what are

1090
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: you supposed to do? You know, I thought he was

1091
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,680
Speaker 1: the guy who did the best work in that one.

1092
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: In fact, I was surprised. You know, Barbarina has got

1093
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:36,239
Speaker 1: a real weird style where he kind of lets the

1094
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 1: other person dictate how the fight's gonna go a little

1095
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: bit like where it's gonna be and under what terms

1096
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: and then just fights them on that. And Matt Brown

1097
00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,439
Speaker 1: had those amazing trips and turns in the clinch. Matt

1098
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 1: Brown has a whole clinch video on BJJ fanatics if

1099
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: you haven't checked it out. I bought up and I

1100
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:54,560
Speaker 1: haven't watched it yet, but you know, he's a master

1101
00:51:54,600 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: of the clinch, and Barbarina was kind of lighting them

1102
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: up with elbows in there too, although you know, obviously,

1103
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,319
Speaker 1: you know Brown was doing some good work on top

1104
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,200
Speaker 1: of it. But it sucks that he didn't get the win.

1105
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: But it was a hell of a fight and Brian

1106
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,959
Speaker 1: Barberina saying that's the end of my contract. I asked

1107
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 1: UFC if they wanted to get back at me. They

1108
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: didn't really say anything. If this is it, I'm just

1109
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 1: gonna go work on the farm. That's maturity. I have

1110
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: a lot of respect for Brian Barbarina. I was a

1111
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: hell of a performance. He deserved the win, and I

1112
00:52:18,760 --> 00:52:20,399
Speaker 1: don't know what's next, but I hope it's good things.

1113
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 3: I hope he gets another flyer. I think he deserves it.

1114
00:52:22,520 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 3: They both gutted this shit out. I don't think it's

1115
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:27,640
Speaker 3: a Fight of the Year contender necessarily. I just think

1116
00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:30,799
Speaker 3: like it was savage, and there were certain moments end

1117
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 3: of the second, maybe all of the third, that were

1118
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 3: just ridiculous. I mean when Matt Brown rallied for that

1119
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:37,640
Speaker 3: third round takedown and the announcers lost their shit. It

1120
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 3: was a great moment, the crowd going nuts. But to

1121
00:52:40,920 --> 00:52:43,520
Speaker 3: see the face of Matt Brown afterwards, not just the

1122
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: you know, the blood and the carvings on it, but

1123
00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:48,880
Speaker 3: the disappointment. I mean, at forty one, he emptied it

1124
00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:51,680
Speaker 3: out and came up just short. So much respect to

1125
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 3: both of these warriors. It was a big part about

1126
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 3: why this card was good. And Luke real quick but

1127
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 3: I gotta circle this name because we're gonna be talking

1128
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,680
Speaker 3: about him in the future. It looks like a Schmesh

1129
00:53:01,719 --> 00:53:04,160
Speaker 3: factory guy who might have next with the Abe Lincoln Beard,

1130
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 3: Alice Scobb, Kaziriev. I know I butchered that, Luke, but

1131
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: that bearded middleweight with the weird takedowns that DC was

1132
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 3: going nuts for. What he did to fellow Russian Dennis

1133
00:53:17,000 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 3: Toululian was savage. Look this guy won the Dana White

1134
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,120
Speaker 3: Contender series. This was his UFC debut. He's a little

1135
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:30,320
Speaker 3: round around the belly, and after just being a force

1136
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 3: in there, he climbs the fence, asks for a title

1137
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 3: shot with a discount double check, with a smirk on

1138
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 3: his face, and then says on the microphone, Hey, Dana,

1139
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 3: I could lose a little bit of weight. Let me

1140
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,080
Speaker 3: cut down to one seventy. I'm gonna smash everybody at

1141
00:53:44,080 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 3: this point, Luke, I think we are trained to realize

1142
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 3: that when guys look like him, fight like him, talk

1143
00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 3: like him, you gotta believe in him. Because this good's

1144
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 3: coming on. This dude's coming on. I mean his dude.

1145
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 3: That takedown he had that DC went nuts for, you know,

1146
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,560
Speaker 3: the creative use of the technique, which I am not

1147
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,840
Speaker 3: equipped to talk about. There it is right there in

1148
00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:05,440
Speaker 3: that picture. Loved it, loved it.

1149
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: You know what's scary is, however many of these guys

1150
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: break through from that area of the world you're just

1151
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 1: blown away by. And then when you watch like regional

1152
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: Mma over there, you realize that, like this is just

1153
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:20,120
Speaker 1: the tip of the spear there is if it depending

1154
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: on how UFC wants to sign them or Belt or whoever.

1155
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:23,600
Speaker 1: I don't know how it's all going to sort itself.

1156
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 1: But like you watch you know Grant, it's you know,

1157
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 1: associated with ramzon cadirol. But if you watch Aca, my god, dude,

1158
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:35,239
Speaker 1: there are dozens and dozens and dozens of guys not

1159
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:38,399
Speaker 1: exactly quite like this, but you know, relatively on par

1160
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:42,480
Speaker 1: not far away. We talk about the Russian invasion. I'm

1161
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,479
Speaker 1: not even sure it's fully started, you know, in terms

1162
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:47,720
Speaker 1: of all the talent that's going to move over into

1163
00:54:48,239 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: the major promotions as they graduate through. I mean, yes,

1164
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,239
Speaker 1: of course, you know, we see it more now than

1165
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: we have in a long time. But there is another

1166
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: wave coming along in terms of you know, matriculation. It's

1167
00:54:59,560 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: gonna be it's gonna be interesting to see what MMA

1168
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:04,359
Speaker 1: looks like in terms of his demographic breakdown from nationality

1169
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: in ten years, let's say, and how redistributed it is

1170
00:55:08,520 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: in terms of what world powers look like. Yeah, I

1171
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: need sounds a little political. I didn't mean for it

1172
00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: to sound that way, but you no.

1173
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,120
Speaker 3: No, And I need to learn how to pronounce this

1174
00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,399
Speaker 3: man's name to put the full respect on him. Fun

1175
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 3: fun fighters. I mean, you know, dude, he obviously can

1176
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 3: take you down. It can be a submission threat. But

1177
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:23,920
Speaker 3: he had some hammers on the feet too, So uh

1178
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 3: if it's a fun time, What a fun time? What

1179
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 3: a fun card? More to come on this card? Okay,

1180
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,440
Speaker 3: not only and have you seen this hip? But on

1181
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:32,640
Speaker 3: extra credit later today?

1182
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: Let me pull that, all right, Luke, Yeah, let me

1183
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:37,759
Speaker 1: plenty plenty coming on extra credit. Pardon me? All right,

1184
00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,440
Speaker 1: Let's go to topic number four, A little bit out

1185
00:55:39,480 --> 00:55:42,319
Speaker 1: of the beaten path. B See, we're bringing it up

1186
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 1: here because in part I didn't. I was surprised there

1187
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,919
Speaker 1: wasn't actually at well, maybe I wasn't surprised there wasn't

1188
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,160
Speaker 1: as much attention on this as you might imagine. Do

1189
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:52,440
Speaker 1: we have the tweets we can put it? We have

1190
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 1: the tweets, let's put it up here. If not, we

1191
00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,800
Speaker 1: can just sort of, you know, add lib But basically BC,

1192
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz takes to TWI and ask the UFC to

1193
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: release him from his contract, saying he wants to fight.

1194
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 1: Doesn't want to do this publicly, but they're leaving him

1195
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,680
Speaker 1: no choice and he's got shit to do. So what

1196
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: is the right question here? Are you surprised that he

1197
00:56:13,160 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 1: did it? Probably not that there wasn't as much reaction

1198
00:56:16,320 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: to it, like people almost just inherently dismissed it. And

1199
00:56:19,320 --> 00:56:21,439
Speaker 1: there's the tweet right there, and this is on top

1200
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,360
Speaker 1: of him in weeks prior stating outright and then tagging

1201
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,600
Speaker 1: Bellator in the tweet saying he wants to go there,

1202
00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,840
Speaker 1: which I'm not even sure how that works with your contract,

1203
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 1: if that's legal or not. But OKABC, what's the right

1204
00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:37,879
Speaker 1: way to look at Nathan Diaz banging the drum on

1205
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,279
Speaker 1: social media to get out of his contract.

1206
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 3: I think we still have to ask ourselves the same

1207
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 3: question I keep asking every week on this show, which

1208
00:56:48,680 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 3: is this, Nate Diaz wants to fight Dustin Pourier in

1209
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,360
Speaker 3: what could easily you think I'm crazy? Could easily be

1210
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 3: a pay per view main event or a badass Colemane

1211
00:56:58,840 --> 00:57:03,080
Speaker 3: on any giant card. Dustin Poorier wants to fight. Dana

1212
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 3: White wants to fight. The fans love that fight, Luke.

1213
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 3: Why are we eight months later or so and this

1214
00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 3: fight hasn't been made? Why is Dustin tweeting in response

1215
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:16,400
Speaker 3: to Nate I want to fight? I just want to fight?

1216
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 3: What the hell is going on here? I don't mean

1217
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 3: to always be the quick trigger conspiracy theorist, or be

1218
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,880
Speaker 3: the quick trigger person that has always Oh, Dana's up

1219
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 3: to something? Is it because they're trying to keep these

1220
00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:31,400
Speaker 3: people in the bullpen away from becoming Jake Paul's next opponents,

1221
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 3: knowing that Nate Diaz has one fight left on his deal.

1222
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, Luke. I mean, I'm not I'm not

1223
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:40,120
Speaker 3: particularly overly interested per se in Nate Diaz leaving the

1224
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:43,560
Speaker 3: UFC to box Jake Paul. But what I am interested

1225
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 3: in is fighters being able to maximize what's left of

1226
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 3: their financial growth potential here. It's why when GSP had

1227
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 3: an opportunity to box Oscar de la Hoy and then

1228
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 3: we find out even though GSP's been retired for what

1229
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 3: now four or five years. He can't box he wants

1230
00:58:00,400 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 3: because he's got to wait out the extended terms of

1231
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 3: his contract. It's ridiculous. There's already enough fighter pay issues,

1232
00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:09,360
Speaker 3: contract issues. We see the details all the time. You

1233
00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 3: turn down a fight, your deal gets extended. You win

1234
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,320
Speaker 3: a championship fight, you win, your deal gets extended. Here's

1235
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,240
Speaker 3: thirty six year old Nate Diaz, who whether it was

1236
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:19,720
Speaker 3: his fault, whether it was Dani's father, whether it was both,

1237
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:23,560
Speaker 3: set out Luke for what three years in the midst

1238
00:58:23,600 --> 00:58:27,640
Speaker 3: of his absolute financial prime after two pay per views

1239
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,640
Speaker 3: with Connor McGregor. So he comes back and you know

1240
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:33,240
Speaker 3: he's been Nate Diaz, right, you know, two losses in

1241
00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:36,680
Speaker 3: a row, but headlines with Mozvil puts on a in

1242
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,920
Speaker 3: the long run of fun performance against Edwards where he

1243
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 3: nearly rallies to victory. But that's like almost a year ago.

1244
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 3: At this point, he's thirty six and not getting any younger.

1245
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 3: Give this guy a fight and let him figure out

1246
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,760
Speaker 3: what's next for him, or just release him, like I

1247
00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 3: actually support him going out there. And so your question

1248
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 3: is whired to no one talking about it, maybe because

1249
00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 3: it's Nate Diaz and he tweets crazy shit all the time.

1250
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:02,439
Speaker 3: Maybe because we're in an era where people are doing

1251
00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 3: this more often. Right, We saw John Jones, We see

1252
00:59:05,080 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 3: Connor retire on Twitter every year. It seems like we

1253
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,200
Speaker 3: see it a lot, right, But in this specific case,

1254
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,720
Speaker 3: for a hero like this who shed so much blood,

1255
00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 3: I remember what he was paid for in some of

1256
00:59:14,320 --> 00:59:17,440
Speaker 3: these big fights, Luke Peanuts. Let the guy freaking go.

1257
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 3: If he goes and boxes Jake Paul and Mike all

1258
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 3: the money in one night that he would have made

1259
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 3: him five years, It's not gonna pass the you know,

1260
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 3: Jake Paul's boxing pay per views. They're not gonna trump

1261
00:59:27,880 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 3: UFC anytime soon. Right? Do I want Jake Paul to

1262
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 3: stop trying to lure Connor McGregor into an MMA fight? Yeah,

1263
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 3: I'm done with that bullshit. But if this is the

1264
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 3: avenue that Nate can go while he's still physically able,

1265
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Speaker 3: let the guy go. What are we waiting for?

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Speaker 1: Hey? Hey UFC?

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00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 3: Hey Dana?

1268
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:43,200
Speaker 1: Can we speak.

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00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 3: Publicly on this?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 3: What are we doing here? All right? This guy hasn't

1272
00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:49,520
Speaker 3: fought since last June. He's been linked to a poorier

1273
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:53,040
Speaker 3: fight now for you know, almost a full year make

1274
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 3: the freaking fight.

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Speaker 1: Duey, let the guy go understand something, so like, he's

1276
00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: been with the UFC since two thousand and seven, since

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01:00:00,080 --> 01:00:02,120
Speaker 1: thousand and eight. In two thousand and eight, he fought

1278
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: three times. In two thousand and nine, he fought three times.

1279
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Speaker 1: In twenty ten, he fought three times. In twenty eleven,

1280
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 1: he fought four times, right and those four were Don Young,

1281
01:00:14,520 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 1: Kim Rory McDonald, Tachanri Goomi, and Donald Serni. If the

1282
01:00:17,480 --> 01:00:21,880
Speaker 1: Serroni one was incredible, twenty twelve, twice, twenty thirteen, twice,

1283
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 1: then once in twenty fourteen, once in twenty fifteen, the

1284
01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: two McGregor fights. In twenty sixteen, three year gap we

1285
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 1: moved to twenty nineteen, he fought twice, missed twenty twenty

1286
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:36,640
Speaker 1: all together, and fought one time in twenty twenty one. Now,

1287
01:00:36,680 --> 01:00:39,080
Speaker 1: I'm not here to say that that is entire that

1288
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 1: the lack of activity since twenty eleven and twenty twelve

1289
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 1: is entirely the fault of the UFC. That is in

1290
01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 1: no way what I'm saying. I'm sure that Nate Diaz

1291
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: is not necessarily the easiest guy to negotiate with, but

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Speaker 1: I just want fans to inventory something about contracts. We

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01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,160
Speaker 1: had I had a debate with someone on Twitter, which

1294
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,120
Speaker 1: you know, or in an argument or whatever you want

1295
01:00:58,120 --> 01:01:00,640
Speaker 1: to say, and they were talking about the strength of

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01:01:00,680 --> 01:01:03,480
Speaker 1: the UFC brand, and it should be noted the brand

1297
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:06,680
Speaker 1: does have a lot of strength, right you know, whatever

1298
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,400
Speaker 1: else you want to say about who's on the roster

1299
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: and who's not. They are obviously very capable promoters. They

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01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: know what they are doing in large part, and they've

1301
01:01:14,840 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: really worked out a pretty great system. They have a

1302
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:19,520
Speaker 1: great broadcast partner. Like their success is not accidental for

1303
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: a lot of reasons. However, it is also true that

1304
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: the brand is artificially propped up by virtue of the

1305
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: fact that fighters are locked under contract for long periods

1306
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: of time and they're not able to move around. There

1307
01:01:31,320 --> 01:01:35,600
Speaker 1: is this artificial construction that makes the brand what it is.

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01:01:35,640 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: Where if the contracts were much more in the favor

1309
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: of the fighters having the ability to move after let's

1310
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: say two years or so, the brand simply would not

1311
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 1: be what it is. They would still be good promoters,

1312
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 1: but it wouldn't represent in your mind or frankly, in

1313
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:50,080
Speaker 1: the marketplace what it does today. I want folks to

1314
01:01:50,120 --> 01:01:54,280
Speaker 1: inventory that yes, Nay Diaz probably has in many parts

1315
01:01:54,320 --> 01:01:57,480
Speaker 1: sat out by his own desire, although I also want

1316
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 1: to point out how much time in the career of

1317
01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz has been lost by virtue of having battles

1318
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: with his own promoter, years and years and years and years.

1319
01:02:10,200 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: And I don't know that all of that BC translates

1320
01:02:12,800 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: into four fights a year. I'm not saying he'd be

1321
01:02:15,160 --> 01:02:18,920
Speaker 1: Canelo either, But to your point, it's not that they

1322
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,880
Speaker 1: haven't had at times a fruitful, working relationship, but I

1323
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: would say at most times it's been pretty fucking acrimonious.

1324
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,760
Speaker 1: Nate Diaz was complaining a lot before the McGregor stuff,

1325
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 1: and even afterwards was kind of sitting out and complaining.

1326
01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: I really wonder whether a different promoter who was a

1327
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:38,919
Speaker 1: little bit more giving upfront to him, whether that would

1328
01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: be the case. And we don't know the answer to that,

1329
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 1: because he is still locked into long term contracts that

1330
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: very much favor the promoter. Always keeps something like that

1331
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 1: in mind.

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Speaker 3: Dude, I think we're right to say it could be

1333
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty in terms of why Nate sat out

1334
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:57,520
Speaker 3: those three years after the two Conter fights, and whose

1335
01:02:57,520 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 3: fault it was Diaz is always tend to over inflate things,

1336
01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 3: right then, everythink they lost. I'm sure they over inflate

1337
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:07,280
Speaker 3: their value in that moment, even separate from the fighter

1338
01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 3: paid debate in question. Right, But it's criminal that he

1339
01:03:11,120 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 3: went three years without fighting when he was that popular

1340
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 3: and commercially relevant and beloved on a critical sense from

1341
01:03:19,720 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 3: every single fight fan. But that's a whole topic from

1342
01:03:22,600 --> 01:03:25,160
Speaker 3: fucking three years ago. Luke, we're talking about right now.

1343
01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:26,920
Speaker 3: The dude's thirty six. I mean, did you see that

1344
01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 3: actual what he said in the tweet of mother efforts

1345
01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,720
Speaker 3: be crying because they got dropped from the UFC. I

1346
01:03:31,720 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 3: can't pay out this bitch. What else could it be? Luke,

1347
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 3: He's he's openly saying on Twitter, which is not an

1348
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,800
Speaker 3: ADZ moved to go this way per se of like

1349
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:45,840
Speaker 3: you know, at Hunter, at Dana, like let me go right.

1350
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,840
Speaker 3: So you know we've talked about this before when when

1351
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,160
Speaker 3: no one wanted to fight Hamzad. Now we got Gilbert Burns,

1352
01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 3: it's gonna be a big deal. Does he have to

1353
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 3: sell his soul to like a Hamzad loss just to

1354
01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,720
Speaker 3: get out of that deal? I bet you'd do it. Tomorrow.

1355
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 3: I had to.

1356
01:04:00,520 --> 01:04:03,360
Speaker 1: That's what I mean BC for folks who don't know

1357
01:04:03,960 --> 01:04:07,840
Speaker 1: Floyd Mayweather used to be promoted by Bob Aram by

1358
01:04:07,960 --> 01:04:11,320
Speaker 1: Top Rank BC for folks who are not aware what

1359
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: happened at the end of the Mayweather Bob aram relationship.

1360
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:19,520
Speaker 3: So around two thousand and six, Mayweather was being set

1361
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 3: up to fight Antonio Margarito, who was a welterweight champion.

1362
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 3: Floyd was moving up to welterweight. Both were promoted by

1363
01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,280
Speaker 3: Bob Aramin' Top Rank. Floyd came to Bob and said, like,

1364
01:04:28,560 --> 01:04:31,520
Speaker 3: you know, okay, cool, I mean, I'll take that fight

1365
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 3: if I have to for eight million, but I think

1366
01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,640
Speaker 3: I'm worth more. I want to fight Oscar dla Hoya.

1367
01:04:35,680 --> 01:04:37,439
Speaker 3: I think I can move up, you know, a couple

1368
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 3: weight classes and make twenty million in a fight. And

1369
01:04:39,960 --> 01:04:41,880
Speaker 3: Bob's like, no, that, you know, You'll never do that,

1370
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,440
Speaker 3: you can never do that. Well, there was a clause

1371
01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,960
Speaker 3: in Floyd's contract that he could be bought out. So

1372
01:04:46,040 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 3: this is where the genius Al Hayman, founder of the PBC,

1373
01:04:48,840 --> 01:04:52,600
Speaker 3: came in and they bought out Floyd's remaining top rank

1374
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 3: deal for seven hundred and fifty thousand and what did

1375
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 3: Floyd do? Two fights later, he moved up in flought

1376
01:04:58,440 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 3: Oscar de la Hoya, a one hundred fifty four in

1377
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,080
Speaker 3: the biggest pay per view in boxing history, which even now,

1378
01:05:03,160 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 3: Luke is what the third biggest fight all time after Mayweather,

1379
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,400
Speaker 3: pack you out and Mayweather McGregor. So Flood's going on

1380
01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 3: to do pretty damn well after that, And that's obviously

1381
01:05:12,760 --> 01:05:16,600
Speaker 3: a special individual case. But they hit a crossroads of

1382
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,560
Speaker 3: I think I'm worth more, you don't see my value.

1383
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 3: Is there a way we can just part on, you know,

1384
01:05:22,080 --> 01:05:25,040
Speaker 3: on good terms? There? Obviously UFC doesn't work like that.

1385
01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 3: There's a lot of reasons why they why they wouldn't

1386
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,520
Speaker 3: or shouldn't or couldn't. But if a guy's got one

1387
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,320
Speaker 3: fight on his deal and he wants to fight, and

1388
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:33,440
Speaker 3: you've got a marquee, can't miss pay per view matchup,

1389
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 3: what the hell were doing? What are we doing?

1390
01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 1: Just let him buy it out? Just let him buy

1391
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 1: it out. And I'll also ask yourself, I'm not saying

1392
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: that a free market Nate Diaz can just you know,

1393
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: extend this run another five years. I don't think that's right.

1394
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,560
Speaker 1: But in fact, I think is the opposite right, how

1395
01:05:49,560 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: many big fights does Nate Diaz have left? Okay, a

1396
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 1: big fight against Jake Paul would be one. If Connor

1397
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: ever gets free, that's another big one. But that's he's

1398
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: also under lock and key. It's not like I mean,

1399
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,520
Speaker 1: there's a few different ways you could make some interesting

1400
01:06:02,840 --> 01:06:05,680
Speaker 1: money if you're Nate DS. But dude, Nate Diaz is

1401
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: how old. Let's see, he is currently sitting at thirty six.

1402
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:11,440
Speaker 1: He'll be thirty seven in the middle of April. That's

1403
01:06:11,480 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: a terrible place to be at at one hundred and

1404
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 1: seventy pounds at the elite of MMA, right, or even

1405
01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: one fifty five lead of MMA. His record, he's got

1406
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 1: thirty three professional fights, of which the vast majority have

1407
01:06:23,440 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: taken All but one, two, three, four, five, six, seven

1408
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:29,880
Speaker 1: have taken place in the UFC. You got the most

1409
01:06:29,960 --> 01:06:32,440
Speaker 1: out of them. You got the most out of them.

1410
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: The Nate Diaz experience will forever be tied to the UFC.

1411
01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:39,000
Speaker 1: Let the guy go or give him a fight, whatever

1412
01:06:39,400 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: you have to do. Let's move this process along. But

1413
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,560
Speaker 1: I want folks to remember those contracts. There's a there's

1414
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 1: a reason why they're different between MMA and boxing and

1415
01:06:49,560 --> 01:06:53,360
Speaker 1: the onerousness of them in MMA props up the brands

1416
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: to a degree artificially. Never forget that.

1417
01:06:57,800 --> 01:07:01,800
Speaker 3: Look, if this is directly related to Jake Paul, is

1418
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:05,680
Speaker 3: this Dana being afraid at what type of momentum Jake

1419
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:09,480
Speaker 3: can build by fighting what would be by far the

1420
01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,160
Speaker 3: biggest you know XMMA fighter, term boxer he could fight

1421
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 3: in terms of name value, in terms of you know

1422
01:07:14,560 --> 01:07:17,080
Speaker 3: us thinking it could be a competitive fight. Or is

1423
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 3: this Dana just going f you Jake? You know you

1424
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 3: already embarrassed me publicly, so I'm going to work every

1425
01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,920
Speaker 3: legal power I have to prevent you from keeping your

1426
01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 3: momentum going.

1427
01:07:26,800 --> 01:07:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's probably that. I mean, I don't think at

1428
01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:30,480
Speaker 1: their heart of hearts they're like, oh, we want to

1429
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:33,320
Speaker 1: deny Diaz making money. I don't. I don't think that

1430
01:07:33,360 --> 01:07:35,920
Speaker 1: they care about that per se. I don't suspect that

1431
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: it's that malicious. But in terms of denying either Jake,

1432
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: I mean, remember, Jake Paul is the boogeyman, right that,

1433
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,720
Speaker 1: Lordence Epstein telling Sports Business Journal one of the reasons

1434
01:07:45,720 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: why fighter pay is such a topic of discussion is

1435
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 1: because of Jake Paul trolling, not because of low fighter

1436
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: pay so they have placed him as a very controversial,

1437
01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:59,240
Speaker 1: important figure, which I think is to a degree somewhat

1438
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: inflated and not really all that accurate. The part I'm

1439
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,000
Speaker 1: trying to make here is I bet it probably has

1440
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:07,160
Speaker 1: more to do with that than it does with you know,

1441
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 1: there was no Jake Paul out there, and he could

1442
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:11,800
Speaker 1: go to Bellatore, which hasn't even ever put on a

1443
01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:14,400
Speaker 1: paper view except for the one under Bjorn Rebne, Right,

1444
01:08:14,520 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: I think that's right. The Teeto versus Rampage one or

1445
01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:20,680
Speaker 1: even that kind of fell apart whatever it was.

1446
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 3: Belator msg a pay per view with Fador and.

1447
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:25,960
Speaker 1: I think, oh, yes it was. That's right, it was,

1448
01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:27,720
Speaker 1: and I can think it barely cleared one hundred K.

1449
01:08:27,800 --> 01:08:29,439
Speaker 1: That's right. But the point I'm trying to make is

1450
01:08:29,479 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: this is not a huge pay per view threat, although

1451
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,439
Speaker 1: Nate could obviously make it one for a very short time.

1452
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,080
Speaker 1: You know, there's always that to deny them as well.

1453
01:08:36,120 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 1: But it's like, this is the thing I'm saying about

1454
01:08:37,320 --> 01:08:41,800
Speaker 1: the UFC. Dude, They're like they're borderline printing money at

1455
01:08:41,800 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: this point. Nobody is a threat to them, not Jake Paul,

1456
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,759
Speaker 1: not Belatore, not pfl not one nobody, and of course

1457
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:50,240
Speaker 1: you know you don't want to let your guard down

1458
01:08:50,240 --> 01:08:52,400
Speaker 1: and let Wow, I thought I was the one who

1459
01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:56,200
Speaker 1: was dying of communicable diseases, but now I.

1460
01:08:56,120 --> 01:08:59,040
Speaker 3: Think I caught a floater in that athletic greens couple. Look, okay,

1461
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 3: the one drawback of the great, the great provider there.

1462
01:09:03,439 --> 01:09:05,320
Speaker 1: Well, it's not them that's doing that. That's the way

1463
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:08,720
Speaker 1: you drink ag one, which they don't recommend. But I'm

1464
01:09:08,760 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 1: just pointing out here, b see, like the threats are

1465
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,720
Speaker 1: not all that real. Diz is a you know, these

1466
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:15,599
Speaker 1: thirty seven in a month. Man, what the fuck are

1467
01:09:15,640 --> 01:09:18,400
Speaker 1: we doing? Let the guy go, Let the guy go,

1468
01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: or to give him a fight, but like, let's move

1469
01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 1: this process along, sorry, the show along? Yeah yeah, Last,

1470
01:09:24,280 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 1: but not least, we go to topic number five, the

1471
01:09:26,120 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: weekend boxing recap. Let's start with the one on Showtime

1472
01:09:29,240 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 1: Tim Zu. He gets it done and in the end

1473
01:09:31,800 --> 01:09:34,760
Speaker 1: actually was pretty goddamn impressive, but it started out a

1474
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:39,120
Speaker 1: little shaky getting dropped in the first round, although he

1475
01:09:39,200 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 1: finished the round, you know, respectably, and then from there

1476
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: on I think took the fight to toego sha BC.

1477
01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: Did you what did you learn from the showtime and

1478
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:51,880
Speaker 1: American debut of the son of the legend, Tim zu.

1479
01:09:52,120 --> 01:09:54,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, let me paraphrase my own tweet after the fight,

1480
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:57,680
Speaker 3: kind of summon it up. Tim Zoo absolutely proved that

1481
01:09:57,800 --> 01:10:01,160
Speaker 3: he is of the in my opinion that he is

1482
01:10:01,200 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 3: of the elite at one hundred and fifty four pounds,

1483
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:07,360
Speaker 3: a loaded division, but luckily for fans, a loaded division

1484
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:14,280
Speaker 3: of flawed and sometimes vulnerable elite fighters. So while he

1485
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 3: proved that he's elite, he's gonna have to fight his

1486
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:21,280
Speaker 3: way through some very big fights to end up being

1487
01:10:21,320 --> 01:10:23,800
Speaker 3: the last man standing one this is all said and done,

1488
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,960
Speaker 3: and that's because of his style, Luke. There's a little

1489
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 3: good in a little bad in here. So here's the deal.

1490
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 3: He is a constant pressure fighter, but never reckless. It's

1491
01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 3: technically strong. He controls distance, he gets right in front

1492
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:39,840
Speaker 3: of you, and he lets those hands go, but he

1493
01:10:39,880 --> 01:10:42,160
Speaker 3: doesn't move his head, Luke, and I think that's why

1494
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 3: he got caught with that right cross to drop him

1495
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 3: surprisingly in round one. And that's why even as he's

1496
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 3: looking to put the finishing touches, he was never able

1497
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:53,000
Speaker 3: to drop Goshet again or finish him. But he took

1498
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:55,080
Speaker 3: a lot of big counter shots in return to do that.

1499
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,320
Speaker 3: But at the end of the day, that's his style.

1500
01:10:57,520 --> 01:11:01,280
Speaker 3: He digs in there. Now. Is he a responsible defensively No,

1501
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:05,000
Speaker 3: but almost like a poor man's prime Gonadi Gahlufkin. He

1502
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 3: stands right in front of you and he basically says,

1503
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 3: if you're going to land with me, I'm gonna land

1504
01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 3: even bigger, and it's we're gonna find out whether your chin,

1505
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,599
Speaker 3: your gas stink, your toughness is on the level of mine.

1506
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:19,519
Speaker 3: This style is going to break a lot of people,

1507
01:11:19,560 --> 01:11:21,360
Speaker 3: and I know a lot of people are going didn't

1508
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:23,479
Speaker 3: you watch the Hall of Famer coaches you as father?

1509
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 3: He also at times had had movement issues and maybe

1510
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:29,479
Speaker 3: took a little bit too many shots to get his off.

1511
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:31,680
Speaker 3: It's kind of who they are. Luke, I don't think

1512
01:11:31,760 --> 01:11:35,960
Speaker 3: tim Zu is the pure dynamic boxer that his dad was,

1513
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 3: But tim Zu is elite his poise, his understanding of

1514
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:44,080
Speaker 3: this game, and his constant in your face, backing you

1515
01:11:44,160 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 3: to the ropes, making you get him off of you,

1516
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 3: making you dig deep and throw big shots back to

1517
01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:54,360
Speaker 3: get him off of you. It's a hard style to beat.

1518
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:54,639
Speaker 1: Luke.

1519
01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,240
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna take some clean shots to get there.

1520
01:11:57,560 --> 01:11:59,599
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have to get dropped even sometimes

1521
01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:02,280
Speaker 3: in his big fights. But in terms of an announcement

1522
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,040
Speaker 3: that he's here, oh he's here, this was a strong

1523
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 3: debut across the board punch stats wise, he absolutely dominated Ghostchey,

1524
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,240
Speaker 3: who is a tough out in this division. Gastet wanted

1525
01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,240
Speaker 3: to be a lot more offensive this fight than he

1526
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,040
Speaker 3: typically has been. I think he came out with those intentions, Luke.

1527
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:20,320
Speaker 3: But when you've got Tim Zuo walking you down, there's

1528
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:22,280
Speaker 3: not a lot you can do but dig in and fight,

1529
01:12:22,680 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 3: and if you don't have the same firepower as Chin

1530
01:12:25,240 --> 01:12:27,360
Speaker 3: is him, you end up lowing your output and you

1531
01:12:27,439 --> 01:12:29,639
Speaker 3: end up hiding behind that guard and he is going

1532
01:12:29,680 --> 01:12:33,040
Speaker 3: to pick you apart to the body. So I think

1533
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,040
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of reactions that were maybe a

1534
01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,840
Speaker 3: little too aggressive in both ways. People saying, oh, there's

1535
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:39,840
Speaker 3: nothing to worry about here, this guy's amazing, and then

1536
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:42,240
Speaker 3: other people going, see he got dropped. I told you

1537
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:45,200
Speaker 3: he's not legit. Oh no, Luke, he is legit. But

1538
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,599
Speaker 3: he's got a dangerous style that's more dangerous for his opponents,

1539
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 3: of course, but a little bit dangerous for him. As well.

1540
01:12:51,080 --> 01:12:55,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't walk away from this being like I

1541
01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 1: walked away being very cognizant of I think both things

1542
01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,439
Speaker 1: right to your point of myte the defense. I did notice

1543
01:13:01,439 --> 01:13:04,559
Speaker 1: something though, early on. Early on, he was doing rear

1544
01:13:04,600 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 1: hand Perry's and he was slipping a little bit, trying

1545
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,840
Speaker 1: to slip and then come over the top to counter

1546
01:13:08,920 --> 01:13:12,160
Speaker 1: some of the jabs of Gashet, and that's when he

1547
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:13,600
Speaker 1: was starting to get in trouble a little bit. He

1548
01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:17,960
Speaker 1: got timed perfectly on that punch from Gachet. If you

1549
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 1: go back and watch, he actually catches uh, you know,

1550
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:23,200
Speaker 1: we always talk about it on Dissected, catching him on

1551
01:13:23,200 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 1: the half beat. He does exactly that. I mean, it

1552
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,559
Speaker 1: was just absolutely perfect by Gochet. But I'll say this,

1553
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,439
Speaker 1: I think he had to change his tactics a little

1554
01:13:30,439 --> 01:13:31,639
Speaker 1: bit where he had to just kind of go high

1555
01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: guard and block and then he does a lot of

1556
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,240
Speaker 1: like blocking and then just walking through like he doesn't

1557
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: even try to like move his head a little bit,

1558
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:40,080
Speaker 1: because I think he was getting into trouble with that.

1559
01:13:40,360 --> 01:13:41,679
Speaker 1: So it was a little bit of blocking, a little

1560
01:13:41,680 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: bit of catching and shooting from him a little bit

1561
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: through the course of that fight. As it went on.

1562
01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: But I'll say this for all the defensive issues that

1563
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 1: he may end up encountering, and I think those are real.

1564
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: I don't think folks should look sideways on that. He

1565
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,120
Speaker 1: did change tactics in this fight a little bit to

1566
01:13:57,200 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: account for that. And number two, he's got some pop,

1567
01:13:59,320 --> 01:14:03,120
Speaker 1: man like, he's got some His hands are quick, they're accurate,

1568
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:07,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna I did a big preview for Spence versus Ugas,

1569
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,880
Speaker 1: and you'll see that, like the lead hand of a

1570
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:12,280
Speaker 1: guy like Spence does a lot of work in those fights,

1571
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: and this one not quite to the degree that Spence

1572
01:14:14,560 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: does it, obviously, but you saw some of that as well.

1573
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:19,120
Speaker 1: He's crafty in there. He's crafty in there. He's got

1574
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 1: some real tricks. He's got good pop, he's got good

1575
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:24,720
Speaker 1: hand speed. I liked his intensity after getting dropped in

1576
01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,680
Speaker 1: and getting up and then getting right back after it

1577
01:14:26,720 --> 01:14:28,680
Speaker 1: and not taking his foot off the gas, and then

1578
01:14:28,720 --> 01:14:31,440
Speaker 1: in a round five and six, dude, he was absolutely

1579
01:14:31,640 --> 01:14:34,320
Speaker 1: driving punches home. I could have sworn Gachet was gonna

1580
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:35,960
Speaker 1: go down. And what was it the fifth round when

1581
01:14:36,000 --> 01:14:38,679
Speaker 1: he got hit with a hard right hand. We don't

1582
01:14:38,720 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 1: have the highlights, but his gloves nearly touched the canvas.

1583
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: It was bad and he was up against the ropes.

1584
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,680
Speaker 1: I didn't get the sense that he's gonna beat like

1585
01:14:45,720 --> 01:14:48,519
Speaker 1: the very best of this division. BC. Well, he still

1586
01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:51,080
Speaker 1: has to grow and still what his twenty first fight.

1587
01:14:51,320 --> 01:14:54,400
Speaker 1: There's still some there's some development that's required. But I

1588
01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:57,880
Speaker 1: did see that he is a formidable new entrant at

1589
01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:00,600
Speaker 1: the sort of top near top of one hundred and

1590
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:05,080
Speaker 1: fifty four pounds, and he earned this one fair and square,

1591
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,080
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Quality quality win.

1592
01:15:07,720 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 3: You know, if you look back at his other bigger

1593
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 3: wins there, you know, domestically when he beat Dennis Hogan,

1594
01:15:12,439 --> 01:15:14,960
Speaker 3: when he beat Jeff Horn, even when he beat a

1595
01:15:15,000 --> 01:15:18,280
Speaker 3: tough out in Takeshi Nue. I think he had an

1596
01:15:18,280 --> 01:15:21,680
Speaker 3: easier time based on the skill level there and the circumstances,

1597
01:15:21,720 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 3: and he was more able to walk guys down and

1598
01:15:23,680 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 3: go in power. I think in this fight Luke, he

1599
01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 3: really wanted to make a statement, and I think it

1600
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:32,400
Speaker 3: goes back to he has a next level poison understanding,

1601
01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:35,720
Speaker 3: Like you know, nothing phases him in there. That could

1602
01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 3: be dangerous if you're willing to take too many big

1603
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,040
Speaker 3: shots to get yourself. Of course, but I think he

1604
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 3: committed in this fight to making a statement. I think

1605
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:44,760
Speaker 3: he tasted Ghatchet's power early, and even though he did

1606
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 3: get dropped from it, it was a flash knockdown more

1607
01:15:47,160 --> 01:15:48,679
Speaker 3: or less. I think he got up and said, Okay,

1608
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,920
Speaker 3: I can take this. You're not going to be able though,

1609
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,640
Speaker 3: to do that against everybody, particularly Jamel Charlow, who has

1610
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,520
Speaker 3: three of the four belts and is of course rematching

1611
01:15:56,720 --> 01:16:00,360
Speaker 3: Brian Costano coming up now with the win. Zoo keeps

1612
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:03,679
Speaker 3: alive that he's the mandatory for the winner of Jamel

1613
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:07,400
Speaker 3: Charlo versus Brian Castano too. Also ericson Lubun who's fighting

1614
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:10,560
Speaker 3: on in a few weeks on Showtime against Sebastian Fondora.

1615
01:16:10,600 --> 01:16:13,479
Speaker 3: If Lubin wins, he's also a mandatory. Why is there

1616
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:15,759
Speaker 3: more than one mandatory because there's more than one belt

1617
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 3: around the winner of Cassano Charlo. But he's gonna be

1618
01:16:18,920 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 3: right in the mix. But what I said earlier Luke

1619
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:24,519
Speaker 3: about the vulnerability of this division, this division's great, but

1620
01:16:24,760 --> 01:16:26,680
Speaker 3: there's so much parody. You never know who's gonna win.

1621
01:16:26,960 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 3: We saw, you know, Jared Heard a few years ago

1622
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:31,240
Speaker 3: looking like the best thing in this division and then

1623
01:16:31,320 --> 01:16:34,280
Speaker 3: jay Rock just you know, comes out of nowhere and

1624
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,000
Speaker 3: just overwhelms him. And then jay Rock gets knocked out

1625
01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,200
Speaker 3: by Banana Rosario in the next fight. So there's a

1626
01:16:40,200 --> 01:16:42,559
Speaker 3: lot of like, I'm not really sure. Brian Castano may

1627
01:16:42,680 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 3: very well win this rematch. Some thought he should have

1628
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,920
Speaker 3: won the first one against Jamal. Maybe Charlo comes out

1629
01:16:46,960 --> 01:16:49,080
Speaker 3: of it. Either way, we are going to see some

1630
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 3: very fun fights for the titles moving forward. Tim's who's

1631
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 3: gonna be in those fights, and I think Luke he's

1632
01:16:54,760 --> 01:16:56,960
Speaker 3: gonna have to take on some damage to win them.

1633
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:59,000
Speaker 3: And maybe at the end of the day that's just

1634
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 3: who he is. I mean, would you like him to

1635
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 3: be a little bit more selective in the boxing, use

1636
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:06,639
Speaker 3: the jab more one hundred percent, But I'm not sure

1637
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,760
Speaker 3: everybody can take that beat and Gashet did is really

1638
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:09,679
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say.

1639
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 1: It I think that's probably right. I think that's probably right.

1640
01:17:12,920 --> 01:17:14,439
Speaker 1: And he said he wanted to be the bad guy

1641
01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,600
Speaker 1: in the end. He was fighting like a bully, you know,

1642
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,880
Speaker 1: he was fighting up in the grill, pushing him around,

1643
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 1: digging to the body, catching him as he used exiting

1644
01:17:21,479 --> 01:17:24,479
Speaker 1: off the ropes. There was something to his style matching

1645
01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:27,200
Speaker 1: his presentation of who he is, which I kind of liked.

1646
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,680
Speaker 1: So it was. It wasn't without its difficulties, but in

1647
01:17:29,680 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: the end he was clearly the better boxer. I mean

1648
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:33,439
Speaker 1: he got yes, he got knocked down the first but

1649
01:17:34,000 --> 01:17:36,360
Speaker 1: the rest of the time he was absolutely sticking it

1650
01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:38,600
Speaker 1: to Torell Goshet. All right, you see, let's move to

1651
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: now top ranked and this one you had put on

1652
01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:44,200
Speaker 1: my radar and I it's not that I couldn't believe

1653
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:47,920
Speaker 1: that Miguel Burchell got dropped or got hit hard. But

1654
01:17:47,960 --> 01:17:49,439
Speaker 1: if you told me he's not going to make it

1655
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 1: to the back half of this fight, I would have

1656
01:17:51,479 --> 01:17:54,519
Speaker 1: been surprised. Jeremiah Nakatila, did I pronounce it right? He

1657
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,000
Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong? From South Africa? Boy, this

1658
01:17:57,080 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: dude can thump. And he put it on to the

1659
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 1: point where the doctor I think or the corner in

1660
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:04,519
Speaker 1: the middle of the in between rounds was just like,

1661
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:07,320
Speaker 1: I've seen enough of this bullshit. How impressed were you

1662
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 1: by Nakatilla.

1663
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,800
Speaker 3: I think Nakatilla's from Namibia. Luke close enough?

1664
01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: They had him as South Africa or let me let

1665
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,320
Speaker 1: me double check out the go ahead.

1666
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,559
Speaker 3: I think we all Shaquer Stevenson in an apology. So

1667
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,040
Speaker 3: what does that mean, Luke, Shaquer Stevenson who just blew

1668
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 3: away Jamel Herring to win a title and is now

1669
01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:25,799
Speaker 3: going to be facing Oscar Valdez. I think that's April thirtieth.

1670
01:18:25,840 --> 01:18:29,960
Speaker 3: Either way, it's a must frickin' sea unification about with

1671
01:18:30,040 --> 01:18:33,400
Speaker 3: two unbating champions. But when Shaque Stevenson two fights ago

1672
01:18:33,479 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 3: fought Jeremiah Nakatilla, we were like, In fact, I was

1673
01:18:36,960 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 3: like in the interview with him as shakurr, why are

1674
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:40,320
Speaker 3: you fighting these dudes? Why you know, why are you

1675
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 3: doing this? Like we need some big fights here. It

1676
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,080
Speaker 3: ended up being, you know, a mandatory what have you, Luke,

1677
01:18:45,800 --> 01:18:48,800
Speaker 3: But we saw a very defensive Shaquer Stevenson in that

1678
01:18:48,840 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 3: fight once he tasted Nakatilla's power, and we all looked

1679
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 3: at that as a negative. I think this fight showed

1680
01:18:55,640 --> 01:18:59,800
Speaker 3: us that is Jeremiah Nakatilla raw shit. Yeah, hell yeah, Luke,

1681
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:04,280
Speaker 3: But this dude brings it, and he has a bazooka

1682
01:19:04,680 --> 01:19:07,439
Speaker 3: right hand. It's a looping right hand. Sometimes it's straight,

1683
01:19:07,720 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 3: sometimes it's you know, curving in there, but he hits

1684
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,240
Speaker 3: everything with power, and I think his most impressive punch

1685
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:17,000
Speaker 3: was those right crosses to the body where he would

1686
01:19:17,040 --> 01:19:19,559
Speaker 3: faint a jab upstairs and then come with a hard

1687
01:19:19,640 --> 01:19:24,360
Speaker 3: right cross downstairs. Either way, Miguel Burchell's got some problems, Luke,

1688
01:19:25,120 --> 01:19:26,679
Speaker 3: you want to talk about somebody who was the boogeyman

1689
01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 3: in a division for four and a half years, Miguel

1690
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:33,280
Speaker 3: Burchelt was the best, the best brawler in a division

1691
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,840
Speaker 3: full of them, because even though he's from Mexico, even

1692
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,080
Speaker 3: though he's life or death, he's got some craft. He

1693
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:40,120
Speaker 3: can jab, he can set up his punches. He was

1694
01:19:40,160 --> 01:19:42,880
Speaker 3: sort of like the most crafty brawler for about four

1695
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,720
Speaker 3: years in this division. We saw Oscar Valdez move up

1696
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 3: and absolutely blow him away. There was some concern of

1697
01:19:49,479 --> 01:19:51,720
Speaker 3: whether Burchell could even make one thirty anymore, so he

1698
01:19:51,720 --> 01:19:54,000
Speaker 3: moves up to thirty five in this fight, Luke, he

1699
01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:56,679
Speaker 3: didn't have anything. He didn't have head movement, he didn't

1700
01:19:56,720 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 3: have punch resistance. I liked the, of course, the mini

1701
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:01,600
Speaker 3: come back he had in round five to try to

1702
01:20:01,640 --> 01:20:03,840
Speaker 3: make it a fun war, and this was a savage fight.

1703
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 3: In fact, there's an MK donk Luke from Vegas. He's

1704
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 3: a doctor and he DM me and he was like, dude,

1705
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 3: should I go to this fight? I was like, fucking

1706
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 3: go to that fight, dude. It's gonna be a savage

1707
01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:16,439
Speaker 3: it was. I never thought it would be this one sided.

1708
01:20:16,760 --> 01:20:20,639
Speaker 3: I respect Miguel Burchell afterwards for saying, all true champions

1709
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,559
Speaker 3: need to take a loss, and it's what you do

1710
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 3: to bounce back from it. And I'm going to prove

1711
01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 3: to you guys that I can. Luke, I got a

1712
01:20:26,479 --> 01:20:31,160
Speaker 3: lot of questions for Burchell moving forward, because you know, eventually,

1713
01:20:31,240 --> 01:20:33,800
Speaker 3: as you like to say paraphrasing, that Bill is due

1714
01:20:33,800 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 3: of all the damage that you, you know, endure, and

1715
01:20:37,000 --> 01:20:40,559
Speaker 3: Burchell has given more damage than he's endured. But he

1716
01:20:40,640 --> 01:20:44,320
Speaker 3: got knocked the hell out against Oscar Valdez, and sometimes

1717
01:20:44,320 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 3: in your thirties, guys are never the same after that.

1718
01:20:46,800 --> 01:20:49,280
Speaker 3: I think there's plenty of reasons to believe that this

1719
01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 3: might be the case for Burchell. So big win for Nakatilla.

1720
01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:54,799
Speaker 3: Now we want to see him again against basically anyone,

1721
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:56,960
Speaker 3: because you know, it's hard to tell how good he

1722
01:20:57,000 --> 01:20:59,680
Speaker 3: is when somebody who's as great as Shakur Stevenson is

1723
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 3: boxing circles around him. But this dude is gonna make

1724
01:21:03,160 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 3: some fun ass fights. If I'm Bob Ahrman Company, I'm

1725
01:21:05,439 --> 01:21:06,679
Speaker 3: signing this guy for a few more.

1726
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,679
Speaker 1: Yeah. So to dead wrong myself, you're right. It isn't

1727
01:21:09,680 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: the maybe. This is the problem with watching fights on mute.

1728
01:21:12,479 --> 01:21:14,720
Speaker 1: You miss a lot of pronunciation and some of the

1729
01:21:14,840 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 1: more important details. So you're right. He is from there,

1730
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,640
Speaker 1: maybe on not South Africa. Is it Nakatilla or Nakatilla.

1731
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 3: I've heard both, Luke, I heard of both.

1732
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,760
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll just say in Notwkatilla until better corrected. But

1733
01:21:23,800 --> 01:21:25,559
Speaker 1: the thing I wanted to say is, you're right, dude.

1734
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:27,600
Speaker 1: You watch this fight. You know what's interesting out to

1735
01:21:27,600 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: me is not Conzilla's mechanics. They they were actually were

1736
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:33,759
Speaker 1: not as smooth as Burchelt's in a lot of ways,

1737
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,439
Speaker 1: you know, like his his is the trajectory of his

1738
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,519
Speaker 1: punch and some of the setups. I'm not to say

1739
01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,800
Speaker 1: that they're bad, but they're a little bit unusual. They

1740
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,240
Speaker 1: don't look as refined as they're supposed to. But then

1741
01:21:43,320 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: the effect that they would have was so pronounced you

1742
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:50,479
Speaker 1: couldn't possibly deny it. In the end, you're right about

1743
01:21:50,479 --> 01:21:52,920
Speaker 1: this guy. I don't know exactly how far he'll go,

1744
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:54,840
Speaker 1: and it's hard to see him as being the division's best.

1745
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,000
Speaker 1: And in fact, you know SKR. Stevenson kintells he's probably not.

1746
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:00,559
Speaker 1: But you want to make sure you got some act fights.

1747
01:22:00,600 --> 01:22:03,720
Speaker 1: Somebody who is can reliably thump on a card. Bro,

1748
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 1: you call this dude, he is ready to go. But

1749
01:22:06,360 --> 01:22:08,680
Speaker 1: to your point about Burchell, you know, this is what

1750
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 1: I want to say, and I said at the beginning,

1751
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: you see, which was you know, it wouldn't surprise me

1752
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: if he got dropped. Okay, dude, Now we're getting to

1753
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 1: a point where he has taken a fuck ton of damage.

1754
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:20,599
Speaker 1: I don't really know. You would know better, but I don't.

1755
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not saying he can't get another win,

1756
01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 1: that's nice, but he is past the point of having

1757
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:31,840
Speaker 1: good punch resistance. I don't think that's Yeah, we're at a

1758
01:22:31,880 --> 01:22:34,760
Speaker 1: stage now where he can fight very little inside of

1759
01:22:34,800 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: a space where somebody can hit him hard.

1760
01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,559
Speaker 3: We've learned enough through our years covered combat sports that

1761
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 3: when it goes, it goes.

1762
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,320
Speaker 1: It's like that. Yeah, all right, last, but not least

1763
01:22:44,320 --> 01:22:46,679
Speaker 1: I think this was a seventh round stoppage. How about

1764
01:22:46,760 --> 01:22:50,280
Speaker 1: Josh Warrington and Spain's Keigo Martinez. Now, of course Warrington

1765
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:52,479
Speaker 1: had to I think vacated the title. He never actually

1766
01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:54,600
Speaker 1: lost it to Kego Martinez. Martinez beat the guy that

1767
01:22:54,800 --> 01:22:57,120
Speaker 1: kind of inherited it. So this was Warrington coming back

1768
01:22:57,120 --> 01:22:58,320
Speaker 1: around and trying to get the belt that he had

1769
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:03,000
Speaker 1: actually technically never lost BC All Action fight. Martinez I

1770
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:05,080
Speaker 1: think got dropped in the first of memory serves and

1771
01:23:05,120 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 1: then on top of it, Warrington we later discovered and

1772
01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: he put out a video on social media. You can

1773
01:23:09,400 --> 01:23:12,559
Speaker 1: see it. Broke in hand and a broken face. They

1774
01:23:12,720 --> 01:23:16,759
Speaker 1: still managed to score a very like gritty stoppage against

1775
01:23:16,760 --> 01:23:19,280
Speaker 1: the ropeline towards the end of that fight. Dude, that

1776
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:22,160
Speaker 1: was a you said it, and we've been talking about it.

1777
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:25,839
Speaker 1: The UK boxing fans. Oh my god, there's just nothing

1778
01:23:25,960 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: like them. There's nothing like them.

1779
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:30,280
Speaker 3: Okay, So we didn't really previous this fight. I think

1780
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:32,000
Speaker 3: we mentioned it, and to be fair, I didn't watch

1781
01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 3: it live. I ended up watching it this morning. Look

1782
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:39,479
Speaker 3: what an All Action war. This was this crowd in Leads, England,

1783
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 3: which is Warrington's hometown. I mean, in between rounds they're

1784
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 3: like dancing and doing the way. I mean, it was

1785
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,760
Speaker 3: everything that we say about Ireland and the UK that

1786
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 3: the mm an boxing fans, but particularly boxing. You know,

1787
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 3: Eddie hern is known for making a fun night out.

1788
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 3: But it's the people, Luke, it's the people that make this.

1789
01:23:57,200 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 3: They look they just willed Josh Warrington on and just

1790
01:24:01,400 --> 01:24:04,320
Speaker 3: to corerect correct the timeline a little bit. So Warrington

1791
01:24:04,840 --> 01:24:06,640
Speaker 3: came out of nowhere to win the featherweight title. One

1792
01:24:06,680 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 3: he upset Carl Frampton. We were like, who the hell

1793
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:11,040
Speaker 3: is this guy? And then he got stripped of the

1794
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,519
Speaker 3: title because of some sanctioning bs during the pandemic and

1795
01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 3: then got upset by Mauricio Lara got knocked out. They

1796
01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,320
Speaker 3: did that rematch unfortunately, I think there was a clash

1797
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:22,559
Speaker 3: of heads and it was a no contest. Some people

1798
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 3: said this should have been Mauricio Lara getting this chance.

1799
01:24:25,439 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 3: Instead it was Warrington against Keiko Martinez has been around forever,

1800
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,880
Speaker 3: but Luke, Kiko had knocked out Kid Galahad to win

1801
01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 3: this title. Either way, it's back in Warrington's hands and

1802
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:37,719
Speaker 3: boy does he deserve it. The broken jaw, the broken hand.

1803
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,800
Speaker 3: But from round one on, I really urge anyone who

1804
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:43,439
Speaker 3: has the chance to go back and watch this do so. Look,

1805
01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 3: did you see Warrington, who's a fun fighter because he's

1806
01:24:46,120 --> 01:24:49,000
Speaker 3: not a pure boxer and he's not a huge puncher,

1807
01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:53,840
Speaker 3: but he's an interior, effective, technical brawler, and he gets

1808
01:24:53,880 --> 01:24:56,920
Speaker 3: inside of you. He lowers his shoulders into you, he

1809
01:24:56,960 --> 01:24:59,000
Speaker 3: almost turns his back into you. I mean, he just

1810
01:24:59,080 --> 01:25:02,439
Speaker 3: bulldozes you like Sean Porter, like a running back going

1811
01:25:02,520 --> 01:25:06,400
Speaker 3: up the middle. Dude. This was a physical ass war

1812
01:25:06,640 --> 01:25:09,840
Speaker 3: and at thirty six Kigo Martinez bit down and left

1813
01:25:09,880 --> 01:25:11,960
Speaker 3: whatever he had left in that ring. And they had

1814
01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 3: fought already in twenty seventeen, Warrington had won a majority decision.

1815
01:25:15,840 --> 01:25:17,719
Speaker 3: This is how you come back and leave no doubt

1816
01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 3: regain the title moving forward at featherweight, I think you

1817
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 3: gotta watch. You gotta watch Josh Warrington every time out.

1818
01:25:24,720 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 3: I mean, if you didn't already, you do now. Fun

1819
01:25:28,200 --> 01:25:30,400
Speaker 3: at shit guy who goes after it. Luke, I want

1820
01:25:30,400 --> 01:25:33,120
Speaker 3: to see a third fight with him a Mauriciolara, and

1821
01:25:33,160 --> 01:25:35,280
Speaker 3: I want to see Warrington against any any big name

1822
01:25:35,320 --> 01:25:38,360
Speaker 3: you can get because this was a fun, fun performance.

1823
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:40,840
Speaker 3: A little one sided, of course, but a back and

1824
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 3: back and forth spirited brawl. There was cuts, there was

1825
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:46,519
Speaker 3: everything that you'd want in this oh man, look we

1826
01:25:46,840 --> 01:25:49,360
Speaker 3: I don't know how we're gonna do it. Would it

1827
01:25:49,400 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 3: take Would it take like Tyson Fury versus Anthony Joshua

1828
01:25:53,080 --> 01:25:55,120
Speaker 3: for all four belts for you and I to get

1829
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:56,920
Speaker 3: on a plane and go to the UK? I don't know.

1830
01:25:57,000 --> 01:25:59,880
Speaker 3: Would it takes Showtime doing being the provider of some

1831
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,840
Speaker 3: type of pay per view in the UK for us

1832
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:04,000
Speaker 3: to get there? Either way, you and I need to

1833
01:26:04,040 --> 01:26:06,680
Speaker 3: get there. We need to taste this, we need to

1834
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:09,400
Speaker 3: experience it, we need to rub it on our bodies,

1835
01:26:09,720 --> 01:26:11,760
Speaker 3: and we need to do a live show with big

1836
01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:13,880
Speaker 3: time guests in front of five thousand fans. Okay, we

1837
01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 3: need to.

1838
01:26:14,640 --> 01:26:18,080
Speaker 1: Brother, I couldn't possibly want to go to any other

1839
01:26:18,120 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: place to do a live podcast in the UK right now,

1840
01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,240
Speaker 1: or or Ireland Ireland as well.

1841
01:26:22,240 --> 01:26:24,760
Speaker 3: But top Looaks they get me, Luke, they understand me.

1842
01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:27,640
Speaker 1: Okay, bro, they're the I'm just there. You know. You

1843
01:26:27,640 --> 01:26:29,639
Speaker 1: could say what you want about Brazilian fans and they're

1844
01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 1: good fans, but they're just nationalists like they're not They're

1845
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,240
Speaker 1: not quite the same. And you know, you know, shouting

1846
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:37,760
Speaker 1: you're gonna die is not quite as nice as just

1847
01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,080
Speaker 1: the endless singing that they do in Europe, or at

1848
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:43,040
Speaker 1: least that part of Europe. It's just a different experience

1849
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:43,439
Speaker 1: down there.

1850
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,599
Speaker 3: If we could get I mean, we already have you

1851
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,000
Speaker 3: doing in Kanto karaoke and by the way, shout out

1852
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:52,000
Speaker 3: in Conto winning Best Animated Oscar Academy Award. I want

1853
01:26:52,000 --> 01:26:54,320
Speaker 3: to get you doing Sweet Caroline on camera, okay, and.

1854
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 1: That the worst fucking song ever. And that's the way.

1855
01:26:57,040 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 1: It's just the worst fucking song. It's just the national

1856
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 1: white people's anthem. I mean, the worst, the fucking worst.

1857
01:27:04,280 --> 01:27:06,160
Speaker 1: I'll never sing that song, at least not for anything

1858
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:10,080
Speaker 1: other than money. All Right, that's our top five PC.

1859
01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: Before we get to dams from Donks, let's pitch it

1860
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,240
Speaker 1: to the producers here for a second. So BC and

1861
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,160
Speaker 1: I went to Miami last week. That's where I got

1862
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:20,719
Speaker 1: this communicable disease, and we sat down with Gilbert Burns

1863
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:23,439
Speaker 1: inside of Sanford MMA and BC we teased it before

1864
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:25,280
Speaker 1: I'll say it one more time. You guys know, I

1865
01:27:25,320 --> 01:27:27,280
Speaker 1: don't really care for doing interviews all that much because

1866
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,520
Speaker 1: to me, they just feel very artificial. This is anything

1867
01:27:30,600 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 1: but that. If every interview I could do would be

1868
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,440
Speaker 1: like this one, I would only do interviews. I cannot

1869
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: overstate to you how forthcoming Gilbert Burns is in this interview,

1870
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:43,040
Speaker 1: and I'm told BC corret me if I'm wrong, we're

1871
01:27:43,040 --> 01:27:45,639
Speaker 1: gonna put this out tomorrow. Is that true?

1872
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 3: That is true? Ahead of this clash with Hamzat Chimaya.

1873
01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,439
Speaker 3: That's a big deal for MMA, and certainly a big

1874
01:27:52,439 --> 01:27:55,680
Speaker 3: deal for Gilbert Burns's chance of getting right back to

1875
01:27:55,720 --> 01:27:56,960
Speaker 3: that title level once more.

1876
01:27:58,200 --> 01:28:24,640
Speaker 1: All right, let's roll the tape on April ninth, one

1877
01:28:24,680 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: of the most important fights in the walterweight division that

1878
01:28:26,880 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 1: you could make with or without a title. It will

1879
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:32,439
Speaker 1: take place u f C two seventy three, Jacksonville, Florida,

1880
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:36,040
Speaker 1: and it will involve Humsa Chamaiah versus our next guest,

1881
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:42,559
Speaker 1: Gilbert Durinho Burns. They catch me vapor.

1882
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so little teas there, Luke. I didn't realize all

1883
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:47,720
Speaker 3: that goofy shit I was doing was gonna be part

1884
01:28:47,760 --> 01:28:48,639
Speaker 3: of the serious video.

1885
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,679
Speaker 1: Can we We gotta we gotta work on your level

1886
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: change you just kind of lean forward and fall. We

1887
01:28:54,479 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 1: gotta work on your.

1888
01:28:55,680 --> 01:28:59,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, you know, I see I see a high crotch, Luke,

1889
01:28:59,120 --> 01:29:01,280
Speaker 3: I go after a I'm saying that's the history of

1890
01:29:01,320 --> 01:29:03,160
Speaker 3: my life. Okay, I will.

1891
01:29:03,000 --> 01:29:05,160
Speaker 1: Say I saw a lot of high crotches yesterday at

1892
01:29:05,160 --> 01:29:06,280
Speaker 1: the DC Tattoo Festival.

1893
01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:08,680
Speaker 3: Let me tell you you did. You said, Miami. I

1894
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,880
Speaker 3: know you flew into Miami, but we're a Stanford. That's

1895
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,639
Speaker 3: basically Fort Lauderdale, right, No.

1896
01:29:12,640 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: Isn't that? Isn't that Deerfield Beach something like this.

1897
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 3: It's all Florida to me, Luke. But they couldn't have

1898
01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:21,679
Speaker 3: been more welcoming at Stanford. M What a facility too,

1899
01:29:21,800 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 3: it was I couldn't.

1900
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Speaker 1: Dude, we pulled up and that that. I don't know

1901
01:29:26,000 --> 01:29:27,799
Speaker 1: if they can show the video again, but that drone

1902
01:29:27,800 --> 01:29:29,920
Speaker 1: shot that they got at the front of it, or

1903
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:32,679
Speaker 1: sand Mma the way, when you pull off the highway

1904
01:29:32,760 --> 01:29:34,840
Speaker 1: you actually go to one road where Sanford's right in

1905
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: front of you. It looked like an Amazon warehouse, it

1906
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:43,800
Speaker 1: was so big. The space in Florida is crazy. Those gyms,

1907
01:29:44,080 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: they're state of the art facilities times a thousand. In fact,

1908
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,040
Speaker 1: we seen we were in there. There was a think

1909
01:29:49,080 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 1: of Miami Marlins player not a starter but like on

1910
01:29:52,840 --> 01:29:56,439
Speaker 1: the squad throwing pitches to like work on his on

1911
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: his craft.

1912
01:29:57,200 --> 01:29:59,920
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they go they go well beyond MMA and Gilb.

1913
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:01,599
Speaker 1: I was saying, they have like they have, like they

1914
01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:03,719
Speaker 1: have all kinds of dudes who play for the Dolphins

1915
01:30:03,760 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 1: and whatnot come into the gym. I was like, holy shit.

1916
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:09,599
Speaker 3: We saw Robbie Lawler Lytton vissel Ian Garrett.

1917
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,880
Speaker 1: Well we should say that Robbie Lawler saw us and

1918
01:30:11,920 --> 01:30:13,960
Speaker 1: then made a b line for the exit.

1919
01:30:14,960 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 3: He was like, do not approach me, No fucking way, bro.

1920
01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,759
Speaker 1: He saw he saw cameras and two guys in blazers

1921
01:30:21,760 --> 01:30:25,320
Speaker 1: and was like, no, bye later, So look out for

1922
01:30:25,360 --> 01:30:27,559
Speaker 1: that tomorrow. I cannot wait to show that to you guys.

1923
01:30:27,560 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 1: All right, BC, time for us to answer the questions

1924
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,240
Speaker 1: from the viewers. It is time for d ms from

1925
01:30:33,320 --> 01:30:39,559
Speaker 1: dogs out of my he haw he haw. Okay BC

1926
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: from custom Props one. Now this is interesting. You have

1927
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,360
Speaker 1: to set this one up. BC. Will Tank Davis leave

1928
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 1: Mayweather Promotions? Which might sound like a crazy, crazy question

1929
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:51,880
Speaker 1: for folks who may not know. If so, who do

1930
01:30:51,920 --> 01:30:54,320
Speaker 1: you think he signs with? BC? There's a reason why

1931
01:30:54,360 --> 01:30:56,880
Speaker 1: this gentleman is asking this question. What is it?

1932
01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,800
Speaker 3: So here's the deal. Tank put on an interesting sort

1933
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,760
Speaker 3: of e tweet quote tweet in which he said, they're

1934
01:31:02,760 --> 01:31:07,280
Speaker 3: making me, meaning Mayweather Promotions, fight this clown meaning Roly Romero.

1935
01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 3: Javonte's words not mine. Although you know what, if the

1936
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 3: glove fits Luke right, we must have quit it. So

1937
01:31:15,080 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 3: and you know, he said, because this is the final

1938
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 3: fight on my contract. And Tank has gone on to

1939
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:23,879
Speaker 3: post some interesting tweets that he also deleted Luke, including

1940
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:28,080
Speaker 3: one of a private DM or text conversation with Derek

1941
01:31:28,120 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 3: Harmon of Top Rank. Now, if you don't know Derek Harmon,

1942
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,280
Speaker 3: he used to he once fought Ray Jones. He was

1943
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 3: a respectable super middleway I think light heavyweight fighter. He's

1944
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 3: now Bob Ahrams driver. He works with Top Rank. You know,

1945
01:31:38,400 --> 01:31:41,000
Speaker 3: essentially soliciting, Hey, we'd love to meet with you and

1946
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 3: talk with you, but we want to keep it on

1947
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,599
Speaker 3: the down low. Well, Tank put that shit out there

1948
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:47,519
Speaker 3: to further I don't want to say complicate, but but

1949
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:51,840
Speaker 3: expand on this. Floyd Mayweather himself was on his his

1950
01:31:52,240 --> 01:31:54,960
Speaker 3: you know, website or Show of Choice fight hype where

1951
01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 3: he typically goes on and talks, and said, look, you know,

1952
01:31:58,800 --> 01:32:01,400
Speaker 3: Tank's deal is up, and you know, if he wants

1953
01:32:01,439 --> 01:32:03,120
Speaker 3: to go, he can go. But you know, we hope

1954
01:32:03,120 --> 01:32:05,360
Speaker 3: we've done enough to show him you know that we're

1955
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:08,200
Speaker 3: for him, and we've gotten him this far and all that. Look,

1956
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,840
Speaker 3: this is interesting. Now. Obviously there's potential layers here, meaning

1957
01:32:12,720 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 3: Tank is a PBC Al Hayman fighter who just so

1958
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:18,519
Speaker 3: happens to be promoted by Floyd. So could he leave

1959
01:32:18,600 --> 01:32:22,320
Speaker 3: Mayweather Promotions and then still fight for the PBC and

1960
01:32:22,479 --> 01:32:25,639
Speaker 3: be promoted by TGB Promotions or any of the other

1961
01:32:25,720 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 3: sometimes promoters that t PBC uses. Potentially, yes, but this

1962
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:34,240
Speaker 3: could also be Tank looking around realizing that there is

1963
01:32:34,280 --> 01:32:37,720
Speaker 3: a large group of young future star fighters in and

1964
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,320
Speaker 3: around his weight class. And you know how hard it

1965
01:32:40,320 --> 01:32:43,679
Speaker 3: can be Luke to make these cross network, cross promotional fights.

1966
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,400
Speaker 3: You know, I do wonder what's gonna happen next if

1967
01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:49,679
Speaker 3: Tank becomes a free agent at this point in his career,

1968
01:32:50,280 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 3: having being already established himself as a legitimate pay per

1969
01:32:53,320 --> 01:32:56,479
Speaker 3: view player, a guy who can sell out arenas all

1970
01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 3: over the country La, Atlanta, Baltimore, And now he's coming

1971
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:02,160
Speaker 3: to New York to the Barclay Center to fight Roly.

1972
01:33:02,280 --> 01:33:04,479
Speaker 1: And he'll he'll sell that out. I guarantee you, dude,

1973
01:33:04,880 --> 01:33:05,880
Speaker 1: there's a big deal.

1974
01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:09,200
Speaker 3: First of all, but if you're a boxing fan, there's

1975
01:33:09,240 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 3: a lot of potential on what this could do. Now,

1976
01:33:11,200 --> 01:33:12,560
Speaker 3: I do know this little counter for me saying we

1977
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,360
Speaker 3: work for Showtime. I'd love to see him stay on Showtime.

1978
01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:18,160
Speaker 3: I hope that works out, believe me. But you know,

1979
01:33:18,240 --> 01:33:19,960
Speaker 3: he is his own man. He's going to call his

1980
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:23,400
Speaker 3: own shots. Something to watch closely, Luke. We'll get into

1981
01:33:23,400 --> 01:33:25,439
Speaker 3: Devin Haney a little later in the show. He also

1982
01:33:25,560 --> 01:33:27,680
Speaker 3: just switched promoters and was a network free agent. So

1983
01:33:28,160 --> 01:33:32,040
Speaker 3: there's movement right now. And I think wherever anyone ends up,

1984
01:33:32,360 --> 01:33:35,040
Speaker 3: I like when the fighters take their own career in

1985
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,160
Speaker 3: their own hands, because you know, sometimes they want to

1986
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,000
Speaker 3: fight guys, but the promoters of the network can't make it.

1987
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,080
Speaker 3: So we'll see. We'll see what's going on here, Luke.

1988
01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:49,960
Speaker 1: All right, it's it's something you didn't expect because the closeness,

1989
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:52,879
Speaker 1: or at least the presumed closeness of Tank and Floyd

1990
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:54,360
Speaker 1: make you think that this is just something that's going

1991
01:33:54,400 --> 01:33:58,519
Speaker 1: to happen forever. And it might. I don't know, but

1992
01:33:58,640 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: they've been.

1993
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:02,599
Speaker 3: Rocky, Luke. To be fair, okay, let's be fair, all right.

1994
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:04,400
Speaker 3: I don't I don't want to share all Rocky.

1995
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:06,360
Speaker 1: But okay, yes, hold on, I know what you're saying, Rocky.

1996
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,240
Speaker 1: And there's been times where like I think Tank, maybe

1997
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,599
Speaker 1: I'm just guessing. I don't know, Like Tank doesn't talk

1998
01:34:10,640 --> 01:34:12,800
Speaker 1: to me, so I'm gonna guess here, maybe a little

1999
01:34:12,840 --> 01:34:16,360
Speaker 1: bit overbearing. Floyd's been maybe a little bit, and maybe

2000
01:34:16,400 --> 01:34:19,000
Speaker 1: he just wants to like see what happens. I mean,

2001
01:34:19,320 --> 01:34:21,320
Speaker 1: he's a young guy still, right, so like there's there's

2002
01:34:21,320 --> 01:34:23,639
Speaker 1: a lot of that still happening. But I will tell

2003
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 1: you that in my head as so again, you're much

2004
01:34:25,720 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 1: more in I'm trying to catch up to you in

2005
01:34:27,400 --> 01:34:29,360
Speaker 1: boxing and I'm not very far behind. But you know,

2006
01:34:29,640 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 1: my impression was like, oh, that will just continue because

2007
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: it's good for business. Maybe not, maybe not.

2008
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,679
Speaker 3: Well, look, al Haim is not a promoter, he's a manager,

2009
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,400
Speaker 3: and you know, he just so happens to manage what

2010
01:34:40,439 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 3: like fifty percent of the relevant fighters in the game today,

2011
01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:44,920
Speaker 3: it seems like, and there have been fighters in the

2012
01:34:44,920 --> 01:34:47,680
Speaker 3: past who have kept Al on as their manager advisor

2013
01:34:48,160 --> 01:34:50,439
Speaker 3: but gone to different network. Danny Jacobs went to the

2014
01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,719
Speaker 3: Zone and you know, an HBO first and then to Zone.

2015
01:34:52,720 --> 01:34:54,720
Speaker 3: So I don't know what's gonna happen here, Luke, But

2016
01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:58,639
Speaker 3: Floyd and and and Floyd has long put the arm

2017
01:34:58,680 --> 01:35:01,160
Speaker 3: around Gervonte and said this is this is the next one.

2018
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:03,360
Speaker 3: And you know, so far he's been proven right. But

2019
01:35:03,920 --> 01:35:06,000
Speaker 3: I hear what you're saying. Sometimes it feels like Floyd's

2020
01:35:06,000 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 3: a little bit too much commandeering the microphone. And they've

2021
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,759
Speaker 3: also had some up and downs personally that's gone public

2022
01:35:11,800 --> 01:35:15,280
Speaker 3: in the past over some decently salacious things. So who

2023
01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,559
Speaker 3: knows where things are actually at right now, Luke, But

2024
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 3: meet me offline on our Patreon show and I'll tell

2025
01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:20,360
Speaker 3: you more.

2026
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:24,719
Speaker 1: Okay, fair enough, all right? From M Sherman eight. Question

2027
01:35:25,280 --> 01:35:29,479
Speaker 1: what current fighter's career would benefit most from a Kolby

2028
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,600
Speaker 1: Comington type heeltern? You mean getting punched in public. I

2029
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:34,840
Speaker 1: don't know about that, but you know, I was thinking,

2030
01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:37,439
Speaker 1: you see, like who is a real big what's the

2031
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:40,920
Speaker 1: word babyface? Is that the idea? Like it's a little late,

2032
01:35:41,000 --> 01:35:43,400
Speaker 1: but like imagine wonder Boy was like and your kids

2033
01:35:43,439 --> 01:35:46,439
Speaker 1: are you know, stupid and your wife is ugly? It

2034
01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: would be it would be I don't know, it would

2035
01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,439
Speaker 1: be weird. But he's so far, he's so close to

2036
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:52,479
Speaker 1: forty it wouldn't work. Is there someone who's like real

2037
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 1: nice who could like jack it up by have any

2038
01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:56,320
Speaker 1: he'll turn.

2039
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:58,559
Speaker 3: I get the spirit of the question if you were saying,

2040
01:35:58,560 --> 01:36:00,200
Speaker 3: what you're saying is who can we bring up that's

2041
01:36:00,200 --> 01:36:02,760
Speaker 3: really nice who can then become really mean? But they

2042
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:04,400
Speaker 3: don't have to be really nice. They just have to

2043
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:07,839
Speaker 3: be somebody who's overlooked, let's say, on a promotional push level,

2044
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 3: yet has really good ability and could they by taking

2045
01:36:11,400 --> 01:36:13,880
Speaker 3: on a character which we go back to Floyd Mayweather

2046
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:15,840
Speaker 3: when he took on them when he stopped being pretty

2047
01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 3: boy Floyd he became money Mayweather and was so genius

2048
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 3: and calculated it opened up, you know, millions right to him.

2049
01:36:24,200 --> 01:36:26,639
Speaker 3: Who could do that in a way that in theory

2050
01:36:26,720 --> 01:36:29,559
Speaker 3: Covington said he did to save his job, although they

2051
01:36:29,560 --> 01:36:31,439
Speaker 3: can't seem to prove that that actually happened, right that

2052
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:33,960
Speaker 3: Sean Shelby actually told him what he was going.

2053
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:36,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, But like at the same time, does that sound

2054
01:36:36,320 --> 01:36:39,000
Speaker 1: out of character? It doesn't sound out of character.

2055
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,479
Speaker 3: All right? So who is a fighter luke of a

2056
01:36:41,960 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 3: kind or at least low profile personality who's very good

2057
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 3: and you wonder, you know, with an ideal pr turn

2058
01:36:50,479 --> 01:36:53,840
Speaker 3: you know, a villain taking on a villain character could

2059
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:55,440
Speaker 3: just go through the roof.

2060
01:36:57,400 --> 01:37:01,160
Speaker 1: Couple names stand out, doesn't need to, but it would

2061
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 1: be weird if Valentina ship Chenko did it. Yeah right,

2062
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,000
Speaker 1: I mean she's the champion, but you'd be like, what,

2063
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:11,360
Speaker 1: you know, that's a little strange. Kayla Harrison could maybe

2064
01:37:12,200 --> 01:37:12,400
Speaker 1: you know.

2065
01:37:12,400 --> 01:37:14,439
Speaker 3: What did kind of did that a little bit?

2066
01:37:14,600 --> 01:37:16,200
Speaker 1: But what was it? He said, listen to the thing,

2067
01:37:16,200 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 1: didn't say he'll turn. Colby Covington heel turn. I mean

2068
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:22,520
Speaker 1: like find the line and cross it habitually.

2069
01:37:23,560 --> 01:37:26,120
Speaker 3: What about Rose? Meagine if Rose just became like an

2070
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:29,240
Speaker 3: absolute bad not the nice, beautiful person that she is

2071
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,639
Speaker 3: and she supports so many good things. Measure if Rose

2072
01:37:31,720 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 3: is just like F you and f your mom just

2073
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:35,599
Speaker 3: kind of you know.

2074
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:40,759
Speaker 1: What about Robert Whittaker like Dad Statesman in certain ways,

2075
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:44,080
Speaker 1: you know, couldn't be nicer, impossible to dislike. What if

2076
01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:46,040
Speaker 1: he just went, you know and turned it all away?

2077
01:37:46,040 --> 01:37:47,920
Speaker 1: But he would make is a hero in many ways.

2078
01:37:47,960 --> 01:37:51,040
Speaker 1: You know, it would be a weird Glover. Imagine Glover

2079
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 1: being like, fuck all you hoes, I'm gonna beat the

2080
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 1: fuck out of everyone.

2081
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:57,439
Speaker 3: All right, what's the that's gonna be a controversial statement,

2082
01:37:57,439 --> 01:37:59,479
Speaker 3: but what's the true spirit of this question? The question

2083
01:37:59,600 --> 01:38:03,200
Speaker 3: surround Colby, who took on a a first a a

2084
01:38:03,400 --> 01:38:07,360
Speaker 3: trolling and then eventually a like political stance to try

2085
01:38:07,400 --> 01:38:11,800
Speaker 3: to gain following what if Islam Mahachev came out as

2086
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:15,680
Speaker 3: like pro putin f Ukraine. Look, I'm not I'm not

2087
01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 3: asking for this. Look, I'm just saying what you know,

2088
01:38:17,800 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 3: he has the ability to like take that persona and

2089
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:22,479
Speaker 3: become public enemy number one.

2090
01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:27,560
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah that would be disgraceful. But yeah, yeah, disgracefulness cells.

2091
01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,160
Speaker 3: Hey, Usa, I'm coming for you next. I mean, it

2092
01:38:30,200 --> 01:38:31,280
Speaker 3: could get forget bad.

2093
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:34,000
Speaker 1: It's actually not a bad call. And that's actually uncomfortably

2094
01:38:34,040 --> 01:38:36,599
Speaker 1: better than my call, I have to tell you, all

2095
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:43,519
Speaker 1: right from at Sahir sixteen, Uh, was what Will Smith

2096
01:38:43,600 --> 01:38:47,200
Speaker 1: did justified? Well? That butchering of the English isn't justified.

2097
01:38:47,560 --> 01:38:50,559
Speaker 1: Would love to hear your guys take on, especially in

2098
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,760
Speaker 1: light of the Jogey Colby situation. I mean, everybody is

2099
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Speaker 1: going to take this shit to death. I'll just say

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Speaker 1: this BC. Obviously what he did is pathetic and cowardly

2101
01:39:00,880 --> 01:39:04,240
Speaker 1: and bullshit, and it's not you can't support it. But

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Speaker 1: what I would say though, is the thing that really

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Speaker 1: stood with me when it was all over, is this

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Speaker 1: dude walks up. You know it wasn't you would and

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01:39:11,240 --> 01:39:13,120
Speaker 1: everyone was like, oh, he could have He could have

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01:39:13,200 --> 01:39:15,280
Speaker 1: really hurt Chris. Yeah, if he had closed his fist,

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Speaker 1: he fucking hit him with an open hand. Like, can

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01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,800
Speaker 1: we calm down on this leads to death? Takes a

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Speaker 1: little bit, But what I would say is the thing

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Speaker 1: that really captured my attention was he goes up there,

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Speaker 1: he does it, he sits back down, everybody comforts him,

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Speaker 1: then he wins the award and does a speech about love.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, celebrities or elites in this country can basically

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Speaker 1: do whatever the fuck they want, like when Donald Trump

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Speaker 1: was like, they let you do it. He's one billion

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01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,120
Speaker 1: percent correct for better or in this case, certainly for worse.

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Speaker 3: Okay, before we get into the blame and that, look,

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Speaker 3: you would argue that this felt like a sort of

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Speaker 3: top five Twitter moment all time, like real time reaction

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Speaker 3: to something. I mean, it's not Jack Ruby shooting Oswald

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01:40:00,120 --> 01:40:03,080
Speaker 3: national television, but it's about as bizarre as it gets

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Speaker 3: because the slap alone is a moment, right, like like

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Speaker 3: Kanye interrupting Taylor Swift, Like it was like a moment, right,

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Speaker 3: but you have on the back end him winning the thing,

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01:40:13,080 --> 01:40:16,280
Speaker 3: and it's like, do you realize how I always argue

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01:40:16,439 --> 01:40:18,720
Speaker 3: that UFC two twenty nine post fight brawl, don't you

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01:40:18,760 --> 01:40:21,200
Speaker 3: realize how close that was to the whole arena, you know,

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01:40:21,320 --> 01:40:23,920
Speaker 3: fighting each other, people being unsafe and it's the palace brawl.

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01:40:24,160 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 3: Do you realize how close that could have gotten to

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01:40:26,320 --> 01:40:29,680
Speaker 3: like security ushering Will Smith out and like, you know,

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01:40:29,760 --> 01:40:33,000
Speaker 3: the show being stopped and them just announcing his award

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Speaker 3: while he's like in a police car. So like the

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Speaker 3: fact that it played out that way, and that just

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Speaker 3: minutes later he won the award and then had to

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Speaker 3: give a speech in which he's apologizing and justifying at

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Speaker 3: the same I mean, no, not a Chris, It's wild,

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Speaker 3: all right. I like that the spirit of the question

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01:40:50,280 --> 01:40:53,439
Speaker 3: asked the Jorgey Colby part, because you and I reacted

2139
01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:55,719
Speaker 3: in a way to that that was some people thought

2140
01:40:55,720 --> 01:40:58,519
Speaker 3: insensitive or not in touch with reality. And my response was,

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01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:01,479
Speaker 3: I don't think the world's Colby j live in our reality.

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Speaker 3: It's trash talking fight promotion game, and one person or

2143
01:41:05,439 --> 01:41:09,439
Speaker 3: both regularly go too far and there's a receipt sometimes

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01:41:09,479 --> 01:41:11,200
Speaker 3: when you do that. I'm not saying, you know, it's

2145
01:41:11,200 --> 01:41:13,760
Speaker 3: street justice. I'm not saying I support what Jorge did

2146
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:17,640
Speaker 3: by any means, especially the hit and run strategy. I

2147
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:20,280
Speaker 3: have a different take on the I think Chris Rock

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01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,040
Speaker 3: is almost the accidental hero here.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 3: Is the joke that he said out a line, of course,

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01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:28,400
Speaker 3: but that is a forum being an awards host trying

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01:41:28,439 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 3: to be edgy, right, like no one's probably ever gonna be.

2153
01:41:30,680 --> 01:41:34,519
Speaker 3: Remember when Neil when Norm excuse me, nor McDonald did that.

2154
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:36,920
Speaker 3: Sb's one that ESPN wants you to forget about and

2155
01:41:36,960 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 3: just roasted everyone. I mean, there's some great moments in

2156
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:42,080
Speaker 3: the history of hosting a major award show and being edgy.

2157
01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,200
Speaker 3: I don't know if Chris Rock knew about the alopecia.

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01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:48,040
Speaker 3: That the why Jada Pinkett Smith now has to have

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01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:49,680
Speaker 3: that haircut, although I think in the paste she may

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01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:53,160
Speaker 3: have done it for style purposes. So it's like it

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01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,400
Speaker 3: was a Gi Jane joke. It was a sort of

2162
01:41:55,439 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 3: low brow but not too deeply offensive in my opinion, joke,

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01:41:59,080 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 3: but it was out of line.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the joke was fucking it. The joke was

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Speaker 1: shitty in what it was making fun of. But it

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01:42:06,080 --> 01:42:07,759
Speaker 1: was not that bad of a joke.

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01:42:07,920 --> 01:42:10,880
Speaker 3: I mean, it didn't justify that. But I saw an

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Speaker 3: interesting story overnight from The Guardian that had read Will

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Speaker 3: Smith's autobiography that came out last year and said, apparently,

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Speaker 3: when Will Smith was young, his dad punched his mom

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01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:24,040
Speaker 3: brutally in the face and she was like bleeding, and

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01:42:24,200 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 3: Will Smith and his siblings didn't do anything about it, right,

2173
01:42:26,160 --> 01:42:28,439
Speaker 3: because they're small and they're scared. And that ate at

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Speaker 3: Will for the rest of his life. And Will claims

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01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:35,720
Speaker 3: that he's been building up this lovable, happy character publicly

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01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:37,720
Speaker 3: almost to sort of offset that. But the fact that

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Speaker 3: he didn't come to his mom's aid ate at him

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Speaker 3: for his entire life, including when his dad was I

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Speaker 3: guess on his deathbed and sick he considered killing him

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Speaker 3: as revenge. Okay, wow, So that at least shows you

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01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 3: the foundation of coming to his wife's aid and protecting

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01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,840
Speaker 3: her publicly. But Will Smith laughed at the joke when

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01:42:57,880 --> 01:43:00,880
Speaker 3: it was delivered. I know, Jada gave a face, and

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01:43:01,120 --> 01:43:02,760
Speaker 3: any of us as a husband in that moment is

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01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,040
Speaker 3: going to be in an awkward position, yes, but you

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01:43:05,080 --> 01:43:07,400
Speaker 3: don't have to consider the stakes, not just that you're

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01:43:07,439 --> 01:43:09,799
Speaker 3: up for that award ten minutes later, the biggest award

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01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:13,880
Speaker 3: of your entire career, by the way, the biggest moment really,

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01:43:14,160 --> 01:43:17,519
Speaker 3: and Will Smith has done everything. He's on everything, Luke music, movies,

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01:43:17,560 --> 01:43:20,160
Speaker 3: TV's on everything. That's the biggest moment of his career,

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01:43:20,360 --> 01:43:24,160
Speaker 3: without a without a shadow of a doubt. He almost

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01:43:24,400 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 3: he almost botched it. He almost punted it away to

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01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:29,680
Speaker 3: try to what proved to a to a comedian that

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01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:31,240
Speaker 3: I mean like it, dude.

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01:43:31,120 --> 01:43:32,559
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like your joke.

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01:43:32,840 --> 01:43:36,800
Speaker 3: You credit to Chris Rock for one in the moment

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01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:38,880
Speaker 3: dealing with it, putting his chin out like okay, you

2198
01:43:38,920 --> 01:43:42,479
Speaker 3: know you're pissed. I'm sorry. But then rolling with that punch, dude,

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Speaker 3: that's that's number one. The fact that he rolled with

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01:43:44,880 --> 01:43:45,320
Speaker 3: that slap.

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Speaker 1: It was a slap, it was an open hand. He

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01:43:48,000 --> 01:43:50,400
Speaker 1: did not close his fist. It's a big difference.

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01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 3: So the fact that he rolled with it lessen the blow.

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01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:56,360
Speaker 3: And the fact that he was able to carry this

2205
01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,000
Speaker 3: show on, like we didn't need to stop and rush

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01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:01,639
Speaker 3: to commercial, we didn't need to get a replacement host

2207
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:04,080
Speaker 3: or just say hey, go online for the rest of them.

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01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:08,000
Speaker 3: I mean, he just rolled with it is as impressive

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01:44:08,080 --> 01:44:10,880
Speaker 3: a live TV moment. I mean, look, Luke, you and

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01:44:10,920 --> 01:44:13,160
Speaker 3: I get little tastes of this when we're doing live

2211
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:15,360
Speaker 3: streams or whatever. We know in the back of our

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01:44:15,400 --> 01:44:17,040
Speaker 3: mind that she can go hey wire at any point

2213
01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:19,160
Speaker 3: in fact, it does, right, they go Corey and it

2214
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:20,680
Speaker 3: will be in our ear and say, hey, guys, uh,

2215
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:22,680
Speaker 3: we're gonna get We're gonna get this guest. Oh no,

2216
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:24,680
Speaker 3: he's not here yet. He'll be an hour away. Go

2217
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,599
Speaker 3: vamp for an hour, right, like you expect that things

2218
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 3: can go. Why dude, what Chris Rock did to pull

2219
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:32,200
Speaker 3: that off? He's the real MVP in this, Luke. I

2220
01:44:32,240 --> 01:44:34,320
Speaker 3: know a lot of people are going, that's what Will

2221
01:44:34,320 --> 01:44:37,280
Speaker 3: Smith is a hero, that's what you should do. No, dude,

2222
01:44:37,280 --> 01:44:38,679
Speaker 3: there's a time out of place hero.

2223
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:39,920
Speaker 1: Will Smith is a dumb ass.

2224
01:44:40,160 --> 01:44:43,479
Speaker 3: If Will Smith did that backstage, I wouldn't have much

2225
01:44:43,520 --> 01:44:46,519
Speaker 3: to say negative because Chris Rock knows that he's in

2226
01:44:46,560 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 3: the business of taking chances and sometimes, Luke, that bomb

2227
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:51,960
Speaker 3: is gonna blow up in your hand, that grenade's gonna

2228
01:44:51,960 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 3: go off in your hand.

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01:44:52,600 --> 01:44:54,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean we should exaggerate what the threat is

2230
01:44:54,960 --> 01:44:56,880
Speaker 1: like again, he didn't close fist punch him. You know,

2231
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:59,200
Speaker 1: everyone Chris Rock is fine. Like, everyone's fine. Like, I

2232
01:44:59,240 --> 01:45:01,759
Speaker 1: don't want to make this people like that is uh,

2233
01:45:01,840 --> 01:45:05,400
Speaker 1: that is intense violence. Well it's wrong, It's definitely wrong.

2234
01:45:05,439 --> 01:45:07,760
Speaker 1: But I don't know if I've seen intense violence, it

2235
01:45:07,760 --> 01:45:10,479
Speaker 1: doesn't look like that. But the thing I want to say,

2236
01:45:10,520 --> 01:45:12,080
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not a complicated thing. And going

2237
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,400
Speaker 1: back to Colby and Jorge, there is a meaningful difference,

2238
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,439
Speaker 1: and I don't again, you can explain this to people

2239
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,519
Speaker 1: and they hear what they want to hear. Dude, I

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01:45:18,520 --> 01:45:20,360
Speaker 1: will repeat exactly what I said when I was in

2241
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:24,439
Speaker 1: Miami for lauddo whatever. Colby's the victim. Colby's the victim.

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01:45:24,439 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 1: It's not very hard to figure out speech is protected,

2243
01:45:27,720 --> 01:45:31,479
Speaker 1: violence against others basically is not. Uh, this is not

2244
01:45:31,520 --> 01:45:35,120
Speaker 1: a complicated argument to make. The difference was Colby went

2245
01:45:35,200 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 1: out of his way to antagonize dangerous people. And the

2246
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:40,759
Speaker 1: point I'm trying to make here is, yes, of course

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01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:43,160
Speaker 1: Colby has a right to do all of those things.

2248
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:47,280
Speaker 1: But when you antagonize dangerous people for frankly years years,

2249
01:45:48,040 --> 01:45:50,479
Speaker 1: you have to ask, from a risk management standpoint, what

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01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:54,080
Speaker 1: will happen here, not what should happen, what is appropriate

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01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:56,519
Speaker 1: to happen, what people are entitled to do. Just what

2252
01:45:56,640 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 1: will they Chris Rock made a fucking joke. Chwalk is

2253
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,320
Speaker 1: not a dangerous street person. He is a comedian and

2254
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:06,240
Speaker 1: an entertainer. We're at the fucking Oscars, the elite of

2255
01:46:06,280 --> 01:46:08,519
Speaker 1: all elite, you know, we're in terms of what the

2256
01:46:08,520 --> 01:46:11,519
Speaker 1: people in society go to. He made one offhanded remark

2257
01:46:11,560 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 1: and the joke was kind of shitty. I agree, and

2258
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:16,479
Speaker 1: I'm making fun of someone's alopecia is not nice. It's mean.

2259
01:46:16,680 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 1: It's a very mean thing to say. And he stands

2260
01:46:19,200 --> 01:46:21,759
Speaker 1: up and does that shit. Dude, that's weak. That's fucking weak.

2261
01:46:22,000 --> 01:46:24,200
Speaker 1: But the point I'm trying to make is about colby situation.

2262
01:46:24,280 --> 01:46:26,840
Speaker 1: The reason why he's different is, Dude, you antagonized people

2263
01:46:26,840 --> 01:46:31,360
Speaker 1: who are violent for a living, purposely for a long time.

2264
01:46:31,680 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 1: Of course, nothing should happen to him. Of course he

2265
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 1: should press charges and if he wants to sue Jorge.

2266
01:46:37,400 --> 01:46:40,599
Speaker 1: Jorge made that choice for him, and there's no sympathy

2267
01:46:40,640 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 1: for him. That is different antagonizing dangerous people from an

2268
01:46:44,479 --> 01:46:47,840
Speaker 1: entertainer making a mean joke on stage. They are not

2269
01:46:47,920 --> 01:46:50,960
Speaker 1: necessarily from a risk management standpoint, they're not equivalent.

2270
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,519
Speaker 3: And you know, the Guardian piece did point out that

2271
01:46:53,640 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 3: the last few years there had been a string of

2272
01:46:55,920 --> 01:47:00,840
Speaker 3: Chris Rock public jokes against both Jada and Will, So look, dude, dude, like, well, no, no,

2273
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:02,599
Speaker 3: I'm not just buying one percent of.

2274
01:47:02,520 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 1: One percent of one percent.

2275
01:47:04,280 --> 01:47:07,320
Speaker 3: Get over it, no, get over in that to try

2276
01:47:07,320 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 3: to fill in the blanks of the motivation. But again,

2277
01:47:09,760 --> 01:47:11,599
Speaker 3: if he had done that backstage, if you had heard

2278
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:14,040
Speaker 3: after the fact that backstage he slapped Chris Rock and

2279
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 3: warned him, you would go, okay, dick, move. But I

2280
01:47:16,880 --> 01:47:19,160
Speaker 3: get it if someone's you know, cause you know, look,

2281
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 3: you got to ask yourself this. Knowing Will's recent history

2282
01:47:21,640 --> 01:47:22,360
Speaker 3: is we really.

2283
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:24,200
Speaker 1: Don't hold on, hold on, see what's up there? Hold on?

2284
01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:25,439
Speaker 3: Yes, go ahead, go ahead.

2285
01:47:25,680 --> 01:47:29,000
Speaker 1: Why would you get it? Dude? What culture are you

2286
01:47:29,120 --> 01:47:32,559
Speaker 1: living in? This is not the Middle Ages. Someone says

2287
01:47:32,600 --> 01:47:35,360
Speaker 1: something and it has an effect. If you have dignity,

2288
01:47:35,439 --> 01:47:38,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the fuck they say. The person

2289
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:42,440
Speaker 1: can't take it from you. It is inherent to your humanness.

2290
01:47:43,000 --> 01:47:45,080
Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way like, oh my honor has

2291
01:47:45,120 --> 01:47:49,519
Speaker 1: been betrayed. Motherfucker. This ain't the fifteenth century. It doesn't

2292
01:47:49,560 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 1: work that way. You can say whatever you want, it

2293
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:56,680
Speaker 1: doesn't affect human dignity at all. It's the violent act afterwards,

2294
01:47:57,080 --> 01:48:00,679
Speaker 1: however violent it may be, that actually is is is

2295
01:48:00,720 --> 01:48:04,559
Speaker 1: the thing that really affects the human dignity and human worth.

2296
01:48:04,960 --> 01:48:06,040
Speaker 1: It's not the words.

2297
01:48:06,520 --> 01:48:09,120
Speaker 3: That was just a setup for me to say, Uh,

2298
01:48:09,320 --> 01:48:11,680
Speaker 3: shouldn't he be more angry at his son's friend who

2299
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:14,280
Speaker 3: Jayda slept with than Chris Rock? And maybe this was

2300
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 3: it all busting forth because while that's a funny joke,

2301
01:48:18,600 --> 01:48:23,240
Speaker 3: it's also real and also weird entanglements. But also, you know,

2302
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:24,840
Speaker 3: a lot of people tweet it afterwards, like, oh shit,

2303
01:48:24,880 --> 01:48:26,760
Speaker 3: Will Smith's got some serious problems if he's willing to

2304
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 3: do that in this moment ten minutes before the best

2305
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:31,679
Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, it looks like there's some internal struggle

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01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:34,200
Speaker 3: going on. So I wish everyone well. Shout out to

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Speaker 3: Chris Rock for holding it together. But I mean, it's

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01:48:37,000 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 3: pretty weird to begin with that that they that they have,

2309
01:48:39,960 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 3: that they sleep outside of marriage with different people. I mean,

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01:48:42,479 --> 01:48:43,320
Speaker 3: but that's just my two cents.

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01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:44,840
Speaker 1: Luc O. Kay. By the way, we have a meme

2312
01:48:44,920 --> 01:48:47,120
Speaker 1: here the producers want to show. Can we see the

2313
01:48:47,160 --> 01:48:51,880
Speaker 1: meme that's It's just it's just Will Smith's lapping BC.

2314
01:48:52,160 --> 01:48:52,559
Speaker 1: That's it.

2315
01:48:53,080 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently that was me accepting the Best MMA Podcast award. Apparently. Also,

2316
01:48:58,200 --> 01:49:00,519
Speaker 3: I've seen other memes with Anthony Smith, not Will Smith

2317
01:49:00,600 --> 01:49:03,040
Speaker 3: approaching me and doing the same thing, but shot out

2318
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:04,840
Speaker 3: to Anthony. See that's the thing, like, this is not

2319
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:07,559
Speaker 3: an even matchup. Okay, by the way, Luke, if I'm

2320
01:49:07,600 --> 01:49:10,880
Speaker 3: Brendan Shaub, a comedian who can actually fight, I'm building

2321
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:14,200
Speaker 3: my entire material around Will Smith moving forward, no challenges.

2322
01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:14,800
Speaker 1: Come get me type shit.

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01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 3: Yep, yep. Okay, because he because he's not going to

2324
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:19,720
Speaker 3: take that slap. Okay, he knocked out crow cop. He's

2325
01:49:19,720 --> 01:49:21,519
Speaker 3: just gonna swivel and come right back and be like

2326
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:22,160
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.

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01:49:22,439 --> 01:49:24,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, well he shouldn't do that either, But uh okay

2328
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:30,559
Speaker 1: from at telvin Key Poppa oh yeah, why better ninety Yes,

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01:49:30,680 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 1: Better ninety show, Fresh Prince of bel Air or Saved

2330
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:36,519
Speaker 1: by the Bell BC, whatever you want to say about

2331
01:49:36,520 --> 01:49:38,719
Speaker 1: what happened yesterday. I mean, the guy made a mistake.

2332
01:49:38,840 --> 01:49:40,680
Speaker 1: I don't I'm not going to judge him in his

2333
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,800
Speaker 1: entirety by that one act. I gotta say, first, Prince

2334
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:45,400
Speaker 1: of bel Air, much better show much.

2335
01:49:45,479 --> 01:49:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean, as a program, it's a I mean, Quincy

2336
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 3: Jones is behind it. It's a it's a damn well

2337
01:49:50,240 --> 01:49:57,120
Speaker 3: better show, but more historically entertained, Luke, more endearing to

2338
01:49:57,160 --> 01:49:59,040
Speaker 3: my heart. Now, I was a fresh prince, super pefecy

2339
01:49:59,080 --> 01:50:01,080
Speaker 3: every episode a million times, right. I mean they switched

2340
01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:03,400
Speaker 3: moms out of nowhere, unexplained an Viv, we got new

2341
01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:05,880
Speaker 3: an Viv. But dude, Saved by the Bell hit a

2342
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:07,479
Speaker 3: little bit harder, at least in my household.

2343
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:12,559
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, all right, Well you're also intensely white, so

2344
01:50:12,600 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 1: there's that as well.

2345
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 3: I don't think it's a race thing, Luke, in this case.

2346
01:50:15,360 --> 01:50:17,599
Speaker 1: Really, you don't think there's a difference between a mostly

2347
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,240
Speaker 1: white clat cat cast and a mostly black cast and

2348
01:50:20,280 --> 01:50:22,559
Speaker 1: the fact that you preferred the former rather than the latter.

2349
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:24,240
Speaker 1: You think there's zero to that.

2350
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:27,000
Speaker 3: No. I just think Saved by the Bell was the

2351
01:50:27,040 --> 01:50:30,519
Speaker 3: goofy absurd humor that that that hit with me.

2352
01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:32,800
Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, I think I would say this Saved by

2353
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:37,719
Speaker 1: the Bell was a little bit preteen, Whereas I feel

2354
01:50:37,720 --> 01:50:41,799
Speaker 1: like fresh prints? Was that but maybe a little bit older.

2355
01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:43,479
Speaker 1: I don't know there's there is Let me ask you,

2356
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:48,000
Speaker 1: is there a difference in age? Demo? Not huge? Slight

2357
01:50:48,080 --> 01:50:50,280
Speaker 1: between the shows. It feels like there may have been

2358
01:50:50,400 --> 01:50:52,160
Speaker 1: may have been slight differences. Dude?

2359
01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:56,679
Speaker 3: How how snacky was it was? Was Carlton's sister Hillary

2360
01:50:56,720 --> 01:50:57,080
Speaker 3: back then?

2361
01:50:59,280 --> 01:51:02,160
Speaker 1: Yeah? She and the famous words of many of my friends,

2362
01:51:02,479 --> 01:51:04,599
Speaker 1: because lord knows I would never say this. She could

2363
01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:06,519
Speaker 1: get it, you know what I'm saying? Could you get it? God?

2364
01:51:06,880 --> 01:51:08,639
Speaker 3: Wow? We better move on, all.

2365
01:51:08,640 --> 01:51:13,240
Speaker 1: Right, let's move along from at Roley Anderson. It's very

2366
01:51:13,240 --> 01:51:15,080
Speaker 1: straightforward question. Be see. How do you want to answer

2367
01:51:15,080 --> 01:51:16,800
Speaker 1: this one? Because we do have one. I don't know

2368
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:18,760
Speaker 1: if we can tell them what the answer is. Can

2369
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,479
Speaker 1: y'all start doing room service diaries again? How do we

2370
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:22,000
Speaker 1: answer this?

2371
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:27,400
Speaker 3: I'll answer it like this room service diaries isn't dead.

2372
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 3: It may look a little different moving forward, though it

2373
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:33,000
Speaker 3: may sound a little different, may taste a little bit

2374
01:51:33,000 --> 01:51:35,200
Speaker 3: different now looke now.

2375
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 1: Now taste a little bit different, like ag one when

2376
01:51:37,800 --> 01:51:39,880
Speaker 1: you just pour water on top of it rather than

2377
01:51:39,920 --> 01:51:43,240
Speaker 1: mixing it, or like a full on ag one experience.

2378
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, what I'm about to say like, we're not changing

2379
01:51:48,520 --> 01:51:52,240
Speaker 3: the formula of room service diaries for this reason, but

2380
01:51:52,360 --> 01:51:55,560
Speaker 3: what I'm about to say also relates to the reality

2381
01:51:55,560 --> 01:51:58,800
Speaker 3: of room service diaries. So here's the real deal, holy Field, Luke,

2382
01:51:59,120 --> 01:52:02,559
Speaker 3: tell me if I'm sharing much. Okay, we put out

2383
01:52:02,560 --> 01:52:05,559
Speaker 3: a segment in which we drink alcohol and openly say

2384
01:52:05,600 --> 01:52:10,639
Speaker 3: things that eventually will get us fired. Yes, we've gone

2385
01:52:10,680 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 3: pretty close to the fire, but you know that shit burns,

2386
01:52:14,439 --> 01:52:19,280
Speaker 3: and the more we gain followers, win awards, do whatever

2387
01:52:19,320 --> 01:52:21,839
Speaker 3: stuff looks good on the other side to the bosses,

2388
01:52:22,520 --> 01:52:24,400
Speaker 3: I think, the more the bosses might end up watching

2389
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:27,840
Speaker 3: our shows, Luke. So you know, I don't think Room

2390
01:52:27,880 --> 01:52:31,720
Speaker 3: Service Diaries in its original form is sustainable. As much

2391
01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,200
Speaker 3: as people love it, it is hard to make great

2392
01:52:34,240 --> 01:52:39,280
Speaker 3: decisions while drinking forties and talking about boobs and rap music, right,

2393
01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,000
Speaker 3: I mean it's hard. Look, it's hard.

2394
01:52:41,120 --> 01:52:45,080
Speaker 1: Right. It's a recipe for cancelation, which so we're.

2395
01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:48,040
Speaker 3: Not changing it necessarily because of that. We're changing it

2396
01:52:48,040 --> 01:52:50,200
Speaker 3: because we've got a better idea with the same title,

2397
01:52:50,240 --> 01:52:54,599
Speaker 3: I think, But we are changing it also because of that.

2398
01:52:58,479 --> 01:53:00,960
Speaker 1: I think that's fair. Here's the point. I here's what

2399
01:53:01,000 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 1: I'll say. You will see Room Service Diaries again, and

2400
01:53:04,840 --> 01:53:07,920
Speaker 1: probably sooner than you might imagine, and it will look

2401
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: pretty similar, but it will be it will be uh,

2402
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 1: it will be an upgrade. It will be substantive. Fair,

2403
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,479
Speaker 1: Is that true? It'll be a substantive upgrade.

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01:53:19,680 --> 01:53:22,400
Speaker 3: Yes. I was gonna say, there's a substantial investment going

2405
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:25,360
Speaker 3: on in this show's future, and RSD is uh is

2406
01:53:25,400 --> 01:53:29,800
Speaker 3: one of those those pillars. So let's see what happens, right, Uh.

2407
01:53:30,040 --> 01:53:32,880
Speaker 1: Okay, with that out of the way, BC, we are

2408
01:53:32,920 --> 01:53:35,680
Speaker 1: done with DMS from Donks. It's time for your feces.

2409
01:53:36,240 --> 01:53:38,640
Speaker 3: Yeah right, Hey, there's one of our better episodes. I

2410
01:53:38,640 --> 01:53:39,680
Speaker 3: gotta give it up to you, Luke.

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01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,919
Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, Mondays are good episodes. Mondays. I like Fridays.

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01:53:43,439 --> 01:53:45,680
Speaker 3: We scour the globe, of course, for the good, the bad,

2413
01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 3: the ugly, the in between, combat sports and beyond. It's

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01:53:48,479 --> 01:53:50,560
Speaker 3: called h y sts.

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01:53:52,479 --> 01:53:56,519
Speaker 1: Have you seen my feces all right out? When I

2416
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,479
Speaker 1: use public restrooms and I don't flush afterwards on purpose?

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01:53:59,479 --> 01:54:01,599
Speaker 1: That's whatever everyone says, Well, that's what I ask.

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01:54:02,400 --> 01:54:07,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Wow, that was gross. Okay. UFC Fight Night in Columbus, Luke,

2419
01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:10,759
Speaker 3: we talked about former heavyweight champions Steve a meocicic getting

2420
01:54:10,760 --> 01:54:13,599
Speaker 3: down with the Oh. I think it's the new thing

2421
01:54:13,640 --> 01:54:16,360
Speaker 3: because Curtis Blades also did this, Luke on Saturday. If

2422
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,560
Speaker 3: you show up, someone's gonna hand you a beer and

2423
01:54:18,600 --> 01:54:19,320
Speaker 3: you gotta chug it.

2424
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:21,400
Speaker 1: Right, Yo, Look at how he sticks his tongue out

2425
01:54:21,400 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: first look at it. I see that.

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01:54:22,800 --> 01:54:24,320
Speaker 3: He's like, oh wow, He's like, welcome.

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01:54:24,720 --> 01:54:26,040
Speaker 1: Do I do that too? Hi might do that too,

2428
01:54:26,080 --> 01:54:26,479
Speaker 1: hold on.

2429
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:30,280
Speaker 3: I might change my game. Yeah. By the way, Steve

2430
01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 3: as a cool dude. You gotta give him. I'm like,

2431
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:36,400
Speaker 3: I've underrated him too often, Luke. And no, he's not

2432
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:38,520
Speaker 3: a flashy personality, but when you hang out with him,

2433
01:54:38,520 --> 01:54:40,480
Speaker 3: when you interview him, the guy's awesome.

2434
01:54:40,760 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a real dude. He's just a real dude

2435
01:54:42,320 --> 01:54:44,200
Speaker 1: who can fight his ass off. And by the way,

2436
01:54:44,600 --> 01:54:47,640
Speaker 1: there's a Colombian in every picture. To his left bottom

2437
01:54:47,680 --> 01:54:52,400
Speaker 1: right of the screen is a Colombian American named Hector

2438
01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:55,520
Speaker 1: Castro who is a former MMA manager. Well he still

2439
01:54:55,560 --> 01:54:57,960
Speaker 1: I think he manages a couple people put on please

2440
01:54:58,000 --> 01:55:00,839
Speaker 1: put on some of the very first profess MMA events

2441
01:55:00,840 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 1: in Colombia and is an all around good dude.

2442
01:55:04,600 --> 01:55:06,760
Speaker 3: I would love to see his incanto review, Luke to

2443
01:55:06,760 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 3: be fair. All right, let's see that, Luke. We mentioned

2444
01:55:09,280 --> 01:55:11,800
Speaker 3: Brian Barberina and Matt Brown went to war. Look that

2445
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:14,160
Speaker 3: was an insulting don't give me that face. Don't get

2446
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:16,040
Speaker 3: don't get Will Smith soft on me.

2447
01:55:16,160 --> 01:55:17,720
Speaker 1: I didn't know. I didn't. I wasn't mad at it

2448
01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:18,720
Speaker 1: at all. It's fine, I have no.

2449
01:55:18,680 --> 01:55:20,080
Speaker 3: It's like it was just a bad joke. I know,

2450
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,480
Speaker 3: sold it. No, no, no, it's fine, it's fine, Luke

2451
01:55:22,520 --> 01:55:25,600
Speaker 3: Brown three of Barberina Brown was a ship storm. Look

2452
01:55:25,600 --> 01:55:26,879
Speaker 3: at the final ten seconds.

2453
01:55:27,000 --> 01:55:31,680
Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, dude, I mean this was crazy. I couldn't

2454
01:55:31,680 --> 01:55:37,280
Speaker 1: believe I was. Were you surprised at how well Barberina

2455
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 1: landed as Twoky knocks on my door, even though I've

2456
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:42,000
Speaker 1: given specific instructions to that messle meaning, I mean, it's

2457
01:55:42,000 --> 01:55:43,360
Speaker 1: just a dude, I mean, what are we doing?

2458
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 3: Well? Look, she's pretty excited. I mean an Academy award.

2459
01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:48,640
Speaker 3: I mean, come on, dude, an Oscar for.

2460
01:55:48,600 --> 01:55:50,400
Speaker 1: A I'm gonna let her come in here and slap me,

2461
01:55:50,520 --> 01:55:52,920
Speaker 1: just to you know, create some excitement.

2462
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:55,920
Speaker 3: Luke, I hope Barbarina gets the contract for him and

2463
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:58,400
Speaker 3: his family. But either way, here's a wholesome moment after

2464
01:55:58,440 --> 01:56:00,879
Speaker 3: the fight with the with the mold to pull Barberina,

2465
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,640
Speaker 3: kids coming up to make sure daddy's okay. I pop

2466
01:56:03,720 --> 01:56:04,600
Speaker 3: for these moments, Luke.

2467
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:08,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, these are tough. These are tough, but he's okay,

2468
01:56:08,960 --> 01:56:11,400
Speaker 1: and you know this might be his last one anyway,

2469
01:56:11,480 --> 01:56:14,320
Speaker 1: and then he's back with them. And I never really

2470
01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:16,600
Speaker 1: fully appreciated this until it became one And these are

2471
01:56:16,640 --> 01:56:18,320
Speaker 1: just the best. These are totally the best.

2472
01:56:18,640 --> 01:56:20,480
Speaker 3: These kids better hope he's fighting soon and they'll be

2473
01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 3: working the plow with him. Luke, you know what I'm saying.

2474
01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:25,240
Speaker 1: Okay, well, you turned a perfectly nice moment into it.

2475
01:56:25,320 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 3: No, if you say is a farmer, that's what you said.

2476
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he wants to go back and work on the farm.

2477
01:56:29,960 --> 01:56:30,600
Speaker 1: Eventually he will.

2478
01:56:30,640 --> 01:56:34,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right. Neil Magni came from behind Luke to

2479
01:56:34,080 --> 01:56:35,400
Speaker 3: get a nice win over Max.

2480
01:56:35,640 --> 01:56:38,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, Max Griffin put it on him in the first.

2481
01:56:38,160 --> 01:56:41,240
Speaker 3: Round then, but check out the closing seconds. A damn

2482
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:43,400
Speaker 3: near gotch pile driver from Magni.

2483
01:56:43,560 --> 01:56:49,680
Speaker 1: Damn Yeah, can he drop him on his head? Which,

2484
01:56:49,680 --> 01:56:52,440
Speaker 1: by the way, folks asking can you pile drive an Mma? No,

2485
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:54,880
Speaker 1: you cannot, you cannot spike someone on their head. But

2486
01:56:54,880 --> 01:56:57,680
Speaker 1: if you notice, he kind of TuS a little bit

2487
01:56:57,720 --> 01:56:59,480
Speaker 1: off to the side, you know.

2488
01:57:01,400 --> 01:57:05,280
Speaker 3: Yes, Andrage, whose nickname in Portuguese is pile Driver, win

2489
01:57:05,320 --> 01:57:06,640
Speaker 3: a title by pile driving.

2490
01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:09,000
Speaker 1: Luke sort of sort of, Yeah, I mean it's it's

2491
01:57:09,000 --> 01:57:10,440
Speaker 1: a little great. I guess what they don't want to

2492
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:13,240
Speaker 1: see is like like a twelve to six straight up

2493
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:16,400
Speaker 1: and down net compression. Yeah, you know, like that. But

2494
01:57:16,480 --> 01:57:18,920
Speaker 1: anything short of that, they kind of just let it roll,

2495
01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:19,160
Speaker 1: you know.

2496
01:57:20,200 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 3: Yep, all right, Luke real recognized reel in the locker room.

2497
01:57:23,560 --> 01:57:27,560
Speaker 3: Check out KK France cheasing it out with MK Instagram

2498
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:28,720
Speaker 3: follower Joe Burrow.

2499
01:57:29,000 --> 01:57:31,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, Joe Burrow, friend of the show. I'm just gonna

2500
01:57:31,360 --> 01:57:34,840
Speaker 1: call him that, even though it's utterly false. I mean,

2501
01:57:34,880 --> 01:57:35,160
Speaker 1: to be.

2502
01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:37,200
Speaker 3: Fair, he might have been following below the belt and

2503
01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:39,360
Speaker 3: then it just changed over. Luke, you know that that's that?

2504
01:57:39,480 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, probably probably true. But one point is here, he's

2505
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:46,080
Speaker 1: a good MMA fan, a hell of a quarterback, and

2506
01:57:46,120 --> 01:57:48,080
Speaker 1: I'm jealous that he doesn't play for my team.

2507
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I look, I think you should play for MK. Actually,

2508
01:57:51,040 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 3: I think you should be our new correspondent, Luke.

2509
01:57:53,080 --> 01:57:55,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, we should be the Joe bur catching up with

2510
01:57:55,280 --> 01:57:56,360
Speaker 1: Joe Burrow. What's new, bro?

2511
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:59,760
Speaker 3: Yeah? Indeed, Luke, I'm gonna play sound in a second.

2512
01:57:59,760 --> 01:58:03,080
Speaker 3: This is from Fury FC. The guy's name is Jordan Pluton.

2513
01:58:03,720 --> 01:58:05,000
Speaker 3: Listen to this, Liver.

2514
01:58:05,200 --> 01:58:05,680
Speaker 1: I heard this.

2515
01:58:05,960 --> 01:58:08,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, good lord, And he's one of those guys that

2516
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:12,160
Speaker 3: you can see a definite improvement every time he's out here.

2517
01:58:12,240 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 3: A huge improvement this time in conserving energy and oh,

2518
01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:20,320
Speaker 3: big shot that's it. Yeah, a big shot to the body.

2519
01:58:21,920 --> 01:58:22,880
Speaker 3: Good God.

2520
01:58:23,360 --> 01:58:25,560
Speaker 1: I tell everyone you can hear it in the apex.

2521
01:58:25,600 --> 01:58:28,320
Speaker 1: But if you've never been to the fight and you've

2522
01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 1: heard it simmy a thousand times, go to a regional

2523
01:58:31,680 --> 01:58:33,880
Speaker 1: MMA show in your neck of the woods, and in fact,

2524
01:58:33,920 --> 01:58:36,560
Speaker 1: this weekend that's all you're going to have access to. Go,

2525
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:38,960
Speaker 1: spend the twenty thirty bucks that you need to get in,

2526
01:58:39,120 --> 01:58:42,040
Speaker 1: and you will understand fighting in a very different way

2527
01:58:42,040 --> 01:58:42,920
Speaker 1: than you have before.

2528
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:46,680
Speaker 3: Uh Yeah. First of all, how about Jordan Pluton's hair,

2529
01:58:46,720 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 3: which is ridiculous, But then he was grinding after that

2530
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 3: flip on the canvas, which is so regional MMA. I

2531
01:58:51,200 --> 01:58:53,680
Speaker 3: love it. But also, Luke, you know when the ten

2532
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:57,480
Speaker 3: second clappers in boxing and MMA, that the timekeepers use

2533
01:58:57,520 --> 01:59:00,480
Speaker 3: it's those two giant plastic or wood blow whatever the

2534
01:59:00,520 --> 01:59:03,120
Speaker 3: hell they are, and they go to let the fighters know,

2535
01:59:03,520 --> 01:59:06,080
Speaker 3: that's what that kick sounded like. Dude, that's quick.

2536
01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:08,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, times like yeah, but them hitting it actually like

2537
01:59:08,520 --> 01:59:11,960
Speaker 1: super hard, like more than normal. That thing, that thing

2538
01:59:12,480 --> 01:59:17,120
Speaker 1: a liver punt, a liver shot. Excuse me, goly, dude,

2539
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:20,120
Speaker 1: that must have sucked to be that guy. I feel

2540
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 1: that form. But shouts to the winner. He did a

2541
01:59:21,720 --> 01:59:22,320
Speaker 1: great job.

2542
01:59:22,920 --> 01:59:24,600
Speaker 3: Look a lot of people taking a bite out of

2543
01:59:24,640 --> 01:59:27,800
Speaker 3: box Ao this weekend. Mike Tyson Holyfield style. This is

2544
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:32,680
Speaker 3: top rank from Las Vegas. Nicholas Pablo di Mario put this.

2545
01:59:33,120 --> 01:59:35,280
Speaker 1: Let me ask you about this now. I know that

2546
01:59:35,320 --> 01:59:38,040
Speaker 1: the referee has discretion on this, yeah, but let me

2547
01:59:38,120 --> 01:59:40,240
Speaker 1: just ask you your feeling. I feel like if you

2548
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:42,600
Speaker 1: bite a motherfucker in a fight, they should call it.

2549
01:59:42,720 --> 01:59:44,440
Speaker 3: You should call it. Yeah. What they typically do is

2550
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:47,280
Speaker 3: take away two points, you know, because I guess there's

2551
01:59:47,400 --> 01:59:49,160
Speaker 3: levels to it. I guess we've seen it a few

2552
01:59:49,200 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 3: times on that Remember when Ivan Redcox did it on

2553
01:59:51,680 --> 01:59:55,600
Speaker 3: the neck of that dude that time? Was it Danny Garcia?

2554
01:59:55,840 --> 01:59:58,440
Speaker 3: I mean at this point, yeah, you should be you

2555
01:59:58,440 --> 02:00:00,720
Speaker 3: should be disqualified. I agree with you that he did

2556
02:00:00,720 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 3: that to uh josuay Vargas, who rebounded from his first

2557
02:00:03,800 --> 02:00:06,120
Speaker 3: defeat to get a win. But later on Luke and

2558
02:00:06,240 --> 02:00:09,720
Speaker 3: one os Eras Argentina. I don't know the fighter's name,

2559
02:00:09,760 --> 02:00:11,960
Speaker 3: but we got another fight. Check this shit out. What

2560
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:12,880
Speaker 3: are we doing here? Bro?

2561
02:00:13,560 --> 02:00:17,280
Speaker 1: Bro? What the fuck? Yeah? I dude, I gotta tell you.

2562
02:00:17,360 --> 02:00:19,520
Speaker 1: Like see, I've never been a pro boxer. I've only

2563
02:00:19,520 --> 02:00:23,120
Speaker 1: ever the most I've ever done is just spar It's

2564
02:00:23,200 --> 02:00:25,440
Speaker 1: never even you know, I've been tuned up a futures.

2565
02:00:25,440 --> 02:00:28,240
Speaker 1: It's never even occurred to me to just bite a

2566
02:00:28,320 --> 02:00:28,920
Speaker 1: mother fighter.

2567
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:31,040
Speaker 3: Would you call it a pussy move, Luke? Would you

2568
02:00:31,080 --> 02:00:31,920
Speaker 3: call it a pussy move?

2569
02:00:32,160 --> 02:00:34,400
Speaker 1: I would know because I don't think those dudes are

2570
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:37,879
Speaker 1: not tough. But to me, that is like the ultimate.

2571
02:00:38,040 --> 02:00:41,560
Speaker 1: That's that's that's to me, surrendering without like tapping, you

2572
02:00:41,640 --> 02:00:44,080
Speaker 1: bite people, you're you're you're out of options. That means

2573
02:00:44,120 --> 02:00:46,760
Speaker 1: it means you know that other guy is better than you,

2574
02:00:46,800 --> 02:00:49,480
Speaker 1: and you are you can't stand it. That's what it means.

2575
02:00:49,480 --> 02:00:51,800
Speaker 1: It's Will Smith basically a little bit different obviously because

2576
02:00:51,800 --> 02:00:55,200
Speaker 1: that's you know, words, and but it's it's him being like,

2577
02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:58,640
Speaker 1: I can't take how much better you are? Fuck you horror.

2578
02:00:58,760 --> 02:01:01,720
Speaker 3: Indeed, they say bad things happened in threes even later

2579
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:03,880
Speaker 3: Saturday night, Luke, check out this pussy doing it a

2580
02:01:03,960 --> 02:01:08,800
Speaker 3: third time. I think, come on, bro right.

2581
02:01:08,680 --> 02:01:11,440
Speaker 1: Bro letting your cat and nibble on your face is

2582
02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:12,720
Speaker 1: extra dangerous.

2583
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:15,920
Speaker 3: Dude, Reggie Jackson just choose up my beard. People in

2584
02:01:15,960 --> 02:01:19,000
Speaker 3: my house think I'm weird, but you know he's so lovable, Luke, you.

2585
02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:22,360
Speaker 1: Know, yeah, he is lovable. But you know, cats, they

2586
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:24,920
Speaker 1: go from zero to sixty without warning. I think that's

2587
02:01:24,920 --> 02:01:26,800
Speaker 1: pretty fair, all right.

2588
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:29,000
Speaker 3: Luke, Let's move on to more prescient things like dick

2589
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:32,440
Speaker 3: and balls. Here's Devin Haney's response to We're gonna get

2590
02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:35,240
Speaker 3: to Devin Haney to close the show. But George Cambosa

2591
02:01:35,320 --> 02:01:38,480
Speaker 3: is telling Devin Haney about the flight that it's nineteen

2592
02:01:38,520 --> 02:01:43,320
Speaker 3: hours from from the US to Melbourne. And here's Devin Haney.

2593
02:01:43,360 --> 02:01:46,080
Speaker 3: I know how long the flight is long as mob Dick.

2594
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:49,360
Speaker 3: Don't try to talk me out, bitch, I'm on my way. Luke,

2595
02:01:49,400 --> 02:01:50,640
Speaker 3: your thoughts on that response.

2596
02:01:51,520 --> 02:01:53,560
Speaker 1: Have you seen Devin Haney's hog? I mean, I don't

2597
02:01:53,600 --> 02:01:56,800
Speaker 1: know is it is? Is he right, at one time,

2598
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:58,720
Speaker 1: At one time laughed. In high school, one of my

2599
02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:00,880
Speaker 1: friends was asked what he was gonna do for an

2600
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:02,840
Speaker 1: hour long presentation, because it was like, how are we

2601
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna talk for an hour? He goes, I'm just gonna

2602
02:02:05,000 --> 02:02:06,920
Speaker 1: unroll my hog for an hour. I was like, well,

2603
02:02:06,960 --> 02:02:10,040
Speaker 1: that's it's very funny actually, but doesn't help us in

2604
02:02:10,040 --> 02:02:10,720
Speaker 1: the moment.

2605
02:02:10,640 --> 02:02:14,400
Speaker 3: You forgotten nineties movie with with tons of one liners

2606
02:02:14,520 --> 02:02:16,640
Speaker 3: Jamie Fox, Tommy Davidson, you remember you ever see.

2607
02:02:16,480 --> 02:02:19,400
Speaker 1: Booty Call a long time ago?

2608
02:02:19,760 --> 02:02:22,520
Speaker 3: Yes, it holds up, all right, Jamie Fox Like, yeah,

2609
02:02:22,560 --> 02:02:26,800
Speaker 3: my dick's only two inches from the floor. Then yeah, yeah,

2610
02:02:26,840 --> 02:02:30,560
Speaker 3: Oh Vivica Fox, what a movie, Luke, that's a prime movie,

2611
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:33,960
Speaker 3: all right. George Cambosis later countered, Luke, he wasn't talking

2612
02:02:33,960 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 3: about the hogs though, I mean.

2613
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:42,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we're just gonna start talking about each other's genitalia.

2614
02:02:41,480 --> 02:02:42,600
Speaker 3: All right, let's keep it going.

2615
02:02:42,640 --> 02:02:44,000
Speaker 1: You see when you and I break up? Are we

2616
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:46,880
Speaker 1: gonna do this? Well, you're a dickless loser and I

2617
02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:48,960
Speaker 1: hate your balls. I hate your balls BC.

2618
02:02:49,880 --> 02:02:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, all right, we got some politicians in the wild, Luke,

2619
02:02:54,160 --> 02:02:56,360
Speaker 3: is this really? Bernie? At the Vegas Airport.

2620
02:02:58,280 --> 02:03:02,920
Speaker 1: You gotta blow it up. I can't see, bro, what

2621
02:03:03,720 --> 02:03:06,839
Speaker 1: I am not Bernie kind of looks like him, Dude.

2622
02:03:07,240 --> 02:03:09,120
Speaker 1: Did I tell you one time I had a six

2623
02:03:09,200 --> 02:03:12,240
Speaker 1: am No, I had a five forty five am flight

2624
02:03:12,280 --> 02:03:15,320
Speaker 1: out of Vegas, Okay, and I was flying the number shit.

2625
02:03:15,360 --> 02:03:18,280
Speaker 1: I was flying Southwest, which is you know, roll the dice,

2626
02:03:18,360 --> 02:03:20,200
Speaker 1: fly Southwest. That's really how I look at it.

2627
02:03:20,200 --> 02:03:21,560
Speaker 3: It's Gucci Spirit Luke.

2628
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I was flying Southwest. Do you know who

2629
02:03:24,560 --> 02:03:26,560
Speaker 1: was on my flight? And by the way, Southwest is

2630
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 1: like there's no first class, there's no business class whatever.

2631
02:03:29,560 --> 02:03:31,760
Speaker 1: John Voight was on my flight. Let me tell you,

2632
02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:36,440
Speaker 1: John Voyd. This was twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, something like that.

2633
02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:41,080
Speaker 1: John Voyd was who's his famous hot daughter Angelina Joe Lee?

2634
02:03:41,240 --> 02:03:43,360
Speaker 3: That's right, that's right. I was thinking Jody Fisher.

2635
02:03:43,400 --> 02:03:45,800
Speaker 1: But no, Bro, John Voight looked like he was one

2636
02:03:45,800 --> 02:03:47,200
Speaker 1: of those you have ever seen those old dudes who

2637
02:03:47,200 --> 02:03:49,480
Speaker 1: are confused because they can't find the commode and they

2638
02:03:49,640 --> 02:03:52,280
Speaker 1: just like look kind of helpless. John voy was looking

2639
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:54,440
Speaker 1: real helpless at five forty five in the morning, trying

2640
02:03:54,440 --> 02:03:57,080
Speaker 1: to find the Southwest flight. I was like, damn, bro Okay.

2641
02:03:57,120 --> 02:04:00,600
Speaker 3: Two years ago, I was on a flight with Jeff

2642
02:04:00,680 --> 02:04:02,960
Speaker 3: Skunk Baxter. You may not remember him Luke, but he

2643
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,640
Speaker 3: was the guitarist of both the Dewbie Brothers and Steely

2644
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:08,280
Speaker 3: Dan and he had like the Walrus mustache. He was

2645
02:04:08,280 --> 02:04:10,680
Speaker 3: a good guitar player. There was a when he got off

2646
02:04:10,680 --> 02:04:13,560
Speaker 3: the plane there was a line of people waiting for

2647
02:04:13,640 --> 02:04:17,160
Speaker 3: him with like handfuls of memorabilia for him to sign.

2648
02:04:17,840 --> 02:04:20,920
Speaker 3: Like who's following like seventy year old Jeff Skunk Baxter

2649
02:04:20,960 --> 02:04:23,520
Speaker 3: around the country knowing that he's gonna land and getting

2650
02:04:23,560 --> 02:04:25,480
Speaker 3: like shit signed. It's just weird.

2651
02:04:25,600 --> 02:04:27,680
Speaker 1: Also, one time I was in Dulles and I was

2652
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:33,800
Speaker 1: boarding my flight. This must have been, oh, twenty ten,

2653
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:37,640
Speaker 1: twenty eleven, something like that. I can't be sure about it,

2654
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:40,320
Speaker 1: but I will never forget. I get all my I'm

2655
02:04:40,440 --> 02:04:43,320
Speaker 1: walking to. I'd gone to the bathroom before boarding had started,

2656
02:04:43,640 --> 02:04:45,480
Speaker 1: because you know, using the bathroom on a flight is

2657
02:04:45,680 --> 02:04:48,720
Speaker 1: tough when you're my size. And I go to line up,

2658
02:04:48,760 --> 02:04:50,400
Speaker 1: and of course the work had paid for my travel,

2659
02:04:50,440 --> 02:04:52,920
Speaker 1: So whatever the last group is, that's the one I'm in,

2660
02:04:52,960 --> 02:04:56,200
Speaker 1: of course. And I look over to my right and

2661
02:04:56,280 --> 02:05:00,360
Speaker 1: bj Penn is just sitting there by himself. There was

2662
02:05:00,400 --> 02:05:02,520
Speaker 1: no and there was no one around him. No, and

2663
02:05:02,680 --> 02:05:04,480
Speaker 1: you know this is obviously, you know, pre pandemic by

2664
02:05:04,520 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 1: a long shot. He's just sitting there, not reading anything,

2665
02:05:07,120 --> 02:05:08,760
Speaker 1: not looking at his phone, just kind of looking around,

2666
02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:12,520
Speaker 1: and not not one person in the airport either recognized

2667
02:05:12,600 --> 02:05:14,320
Speaker 1: him or like, you know, went up to him about.

2668
02:05:14,080 --> 02:05:17,400
Speaker 3: It, uh defending lavas check.

2669
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he fist faught someone in front of

2670
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:23,160
Speaker 1: the you know Annie's famous pretzels or whatever.

2671
02:05:23,480 --> 02:05:25,120
Speaker 3: I love what you're like. You know, a guy with

2672
02:05:25,160 --> 02:05:27,160
Speaker 3: a hag this big is tough to fit into that

2673
02:05:27,160 --> 02:05:28,320
Speaker 3: that urinal there on the plane.

2674
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:30,640
Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, it's not that I can't hold on.

2675
02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:32,880
Speaker 1: You've been on those flights. You can't. I can't even

2676
02:05:32,880 --> 02:05:36,080
Speaker 1: put my head up straight, can you barely? Luke? Yeah,

2677
02:05:36,120 --> 02:05:38,400
Speaker 1: it's tough, dude. It's hard to like wash your hands

2678
02:05:38,440 --> 02:05:39,640
Speaker 1: and stuff. It's like it's difficult.

2679
02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:42,160
Speaker 3: If I called you Armenian Shrek once in a while,

2680
02:05:42,200 --> 02:05:43,040
Speaker 3: would you be upset at me?

2681
02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:44,640
Speaker 1: No? That's all right, all right.

2682
02:05:45,560 --> 02:05:47,800
Speaker 3: Some people think Conan Silvia is gonna kick my ass

2683
02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:49,720
Speaker 3: for calling him Brazilian Shrek that one time.

2684
02:05:49,800 --> 02:05:50,000
Speaker 1: Luke.

2685
02:05:50,920 --> 02:05:53,360
Speaker 3: He's a nice guy actually getting lie behind Will Smith

2686
02:05:53,360 --> 02:05:56,440
Speaker 3: and Anthony Smith. All right, Luke, speaking of presidents in

2687
02:05:56,480 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 3: the wild and journals, this goes together perfectly.

2688
02:06:04,760 --> 02:06:07,640
Speaker 1: You wouldn't feel weird using this. I would feel weird

2689
02:06:07,760 --> 02:06:08,240
Speaker 1: using this.

2690
02:06:09,320 --> 02:06:11,400
Speaker 3: I'm telling you. R Kelly'd be into it. I'll tell

2691
02:06:11,400 --> 02:06:14,440
Speaker 3: you that much, Luke. Okay, yeah, all right, let's get

2692
02:06:14,440 --> 02:06:17,200
Speaker 3: out of here before we're fired. Speaking of urinals, let's

2693
02:06:17,280 --> 02:06:21,520
Speaker 3: let's continue this content please, Jeff, thank you, Luke. Would

2694
02:06:21,520 --> 02:06:23,360
Speaker 3: you have any performance issues here?

2695
02:06:25,560 --> 02:06:29,120
Speaker 1: That's funny, that's funny. That's weird to do. By the way,

2696
02:06:29,120 --> 02:06:30,920
Speaker 1: where you supposed to these are automatic? Because I don't

2697
02:06:30,920 --> 02:06:33,200
Speaker 1: see any flushing handles on these things.

2698
02:06:33,080 --> 02:06:34,320
Speaker 3: It's got to be That means there's.

2699
02:06:34,160 --> 02:06:35,800
Speaker 1: Your ine all over the floor.

2700
02:06:36,440 --> 02:06:38,640
Speaker 3: Luke, check out this song trying to create a bathroom

2701
02:06:38,760 --> 02:06:41,680
Speaker 3: circus with these restroom stilts. I'm sure it's gonna end great.

2702
02:06:47,080 --> 02:06:49,000
Speaker 3: Looks like Mikey, our producer, kind of right.

2703
02:06:49,320 --> 02:06:51,240
Speaker 1: That looks like John Voight on the way to his flight.

2704
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:53,080
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, I.

2705
02:06:53,000 --> 02:06:54,680
Speaker 3: Mean, is there a worse place for your face to

2706
02:06:54,760 --> 02:06:56,600
Speaker 3: hit than a dude move the floor?

2707
02:06:57,120 --> 02:07:00,400
Speaker 1: Who at the airport? Chili's overserved this tuck or too

2708
02:07:00,440 --> 02:07:04,720
Speaker 1: many Cadillac Margarita's huh all right.

2709
02:07:05,040 --> 02:07:07,440
Speaker 3: The only thing grosser than that, Luke is this next video.

2710
02:07:07,560 --> 02:07:09,880
Speaker 3: I know this is a skit a bit, but I

2711
02:07:09,920 --> 02:07:11,840
Speaker 3: couldn't do this. You couldn't pay me to do this, Luke,

2712
02:07:12,160 --> 02:07:15,360
Speaker 3: just like I can't sit in a hotel tub because

2713
02:07:15,360 --> 02:07:16,440
Speaker 3: it just feels too gross.

2714
02:07:18,720 --> 02:07:22,080
Speaker 1: Let me see, dude, what the fuck is this? I

2715
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:29,160
Speaker 1: mean she I appreciate the show she's providing, but she's

2716
02:07:29,200 --> 02:07:30,800
Speaker 1: a little gross. If we could be honest, I.

2717
02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:36,000
Speaker 3: Mean, let's keep going, Hey one x in Singapore, perfect transition,

2718
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 3: Let's go to Shatrian company, Luke. Did you see the

2719
02:07:38,760 --> 02:07:42,360
Speaker 3: pure joy on the legend himself, Sexayama, who I would

2720
02:07:42,360 --> 02:07:45,160
Speaker 3: love to see past a PD test after.

2721
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:48,960
Speaker 1: Rally he was, I mean, for as non nimbly as

2722
02:07:49,000 --> 02:07:51,400
Speaker 1: he moved, he was fucking shredded.

2723
02:07:52,120 --> 02:07:55,400
Speaker 3: Dude. He is all man first of all. Shinya Aoki,

2724
02:07:55,480 --> 02:07:58,640
Speaker 3: another legend, almost had him submitted Luke, and he rallied back.

2725
02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:00,000
Speaker 3: Look at the joy.

2726
02:08:00,160 --> 02:08:02,400
Speaker 1: Yeah no, this is this is hotel staff trying to

2727
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:04,000
Speaker 1: get me to wake up on my trip because I'm

2728
02:08:04,040 --> 02:08:04,800
Speaker 1: so fucking tired.

2729
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:09,760
Speaker 3: Iusuh. In the main event, Luke's stamp Fair Tex. I'm

2730
02:08:09,760 --> 02:08:12,640
Speaker 3: sure it's her government given name. She didn't win, but

2731
02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:18,600
Speaker 3: look at this entrance. A good fight, actually, I mean,

2732
02:08:18,640 --> 02:08:20,960
Speaker 3: they just do it differently in Singapore, Luke, I love it.

2733
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:23,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is kind of me at all of my

2734
02:08:23,240 --> 02:08:26,720
Speaker 1: wife's parties when I'm in Colombia.

2735
02:08:26,920 --> 02:08:29,080
Speaker 3: I bet you they only talk Spanish to each other

2736
02:08:29,120 --> 02:08:30,240
Speaker 3: and they ignore you constantly.

2737
02:08:30,360 --> 02:08:32,360
Speaker 1: Lud No, They're pretty nice. They treat me real good.

2738
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:34,800
Speaker 1: I'd be lying if I said I was mistreated, Luke.

2739
02:08:34,960 --> 02:08:36,520
Speaker 1: And again, they could be using a bunch of slang

2740
02:08:36,560 --> 02:08:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, and then fucking absolutely assaulting me verbally.

2741
02:08:39,240 --> 02:08:41,200
Speaker 1: But I don't know that either of Luke.

2742
02:08:41,280 --> 02:08:43,440
Speaker 3: Remember when it Ganu won the title and Dana didn't

2743
02:08:43,440 --> 02:08:45,120
Speaker 3: show up to put the belt around him and acted

2744
02:08:45,160 --> 02:08:48,080
Speaker 3: like he was busy. Shatri did something weird. Here, here's

2745
02:08:48,080 --> 02:08:54,560
Speaker 3: Shatri sidyon Tong after long Oh won one title, basically

2746
02:08:54,600 --> 02:08:56,280
Speaker 3: like here, hold this shit, I don't care.

2747
02:08:58,360 --> 02:09:01,040
Speaker 1: And there was one time, by the way, he came

2748
02:09:01,080 --> 02:09:02,960
Speaker 1: out one time with a mask that was like below

2749
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:04,920
Speaker 1: his nose and I'm like, you don't need that mask

2750
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:06,960
Speaker 1: if you're gonna just wear it that way, And the

2751
02:09:07,440 --> 02:09:08,960
Speaker 1: next time he came out he had no mask at all.

2752
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:10,080
Speaker 1: He was like, fuck it, But.

2753
02:09:10,040 --> 02:09:12,240
Speaker 3: Why is he pissed that long? Oh? Did he vote

2754
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:15,839
Speaker 3: him off the island on Celebrity Apprentice one Championship edition.

2755
02:09:15,720 --> 02:09:18,600
Speaker 1: Luke, I don't. I don't know how. I don't know

2756
02:09:18,720 --> 02:09:21,240
Speaker 1: enough about one's inner workings to know if there's some

2757
02:09:21,320 --> 02:09:21,680
Speaker 1: kind of.

2758
02:09:23,480 --> 02:09:25,280
Speaker 3: All right sick knockout alert.

2759
02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:25,560
Speaker 1: Luke.

2760
02:09:25,880 --> 02:09:31,120
Speaker 3: Christian Mobili sent Najib Mohammed Mohammedi, excuse me to the

2761
02:09:31,200 --> 02:09:33,320
Speaker 3: Land of Winning Ghosts. As you would say, dude, we

2762
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:37,080
Speaker 3: have two angles of this. This is insane. It happened

2763
02:09:37,080 --> 02:09:43,320
Speaker 3: in Montreal. O. That's like a Rick Flair bomp right there, right.

2764
02:09:43,240 --> 02:09:46,760
Speaker 1: That's crazy, man. He sat him down that you know what,

2765
02:09:46,800 --> 02:09:48,680
Speaker 1: that's reminiscent. It was a kick, not a punch, but

2766
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:53,240
Speaker 1: of the Terry Headham Coyota too.

2767
02:09:53,440 --> 02:09:54,400
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, just.

2768
02:09:55,440 --> 02:09:57,040
Speaker 1: How kind of like the body? I mean, that's not

2769
02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:59,800
Speaker 1: quite Terry. Adam was like fully stiff when he fell over.

2770
02:09:59,840 --> 02:10:00,560
Speaker 1: It's not quite that.

2771
02:10:00,640 --> 02:10:05,320
Speaker 3: But here's the ringside version of it. Yeah. Wow. Mohammedis

2772
02:10:05,600 --> 02:10:08,920
Speaker 3: our boxing hardcore fans will remember, was a mandatory challenger

2773
02:10:08,920 --> 02:10:11,440
Speaker 3: for Sergey Kovlev a few years back and actually had

2774
02:10:11,440 --> 02:10:14,200
Speaker 3: an HBO main event and got sent to Hell there too, Luke.

2775
02:10:14,240 --> 02:10:17,840
Speaker 3: But nice guy there, calls himself Iron Jib. Big fan

2776
02:10:17,880 --> 02:10:20,680
Speaker 3: of him. Hopefully you'll visit him one day down under, Luke.

2777
02:10:21,680 --> 02:10:23,960
Speaker 3: By that, I mean, hell, look, let's lift some weights.

2778
02:10:24,320 --> 02:10:26,680
Speaker 3: You know who's still lifting with gloves? Luke, your boy,

2779
02:10:26,720 --> 02:10:28,040
Speaker 3: Bruce Buffer, your thoughts?

2780
02:10:28,480 --> 02:10:30,560
Speaker 1: Oh Buff, what are we doing? Fella?

2781
02:10:30,840 --> 02:10:33,040
Speaker 3: I mean he's kind of cut for sixty right.

2782
02:10:32,960 --> 02:10:35,680
Speaker 1: Hey listen, I'm not knocking the hustle at all, like

2783
02:10:35,960 --> 02:10:39,120
Speaker 1: you know, that's great, but it's like, dude, what is

2784
02:10:39,160 --> 02:10:42,840
Speaker 1: it you think these gloves are doing for you? You

2785
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:44,720
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like, what is it that they're

2786
02:10:44,720 --> 02:10:45,360
Speaker 1: doing for you?

2787
02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:47,600
Speaker 3: Getting loyal gains? Luke, that's what they're doing.

2788
02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:49,960
Speaker 1: Okay, Hey, no, the weights are getting the loyal gains,

2789
02:10:50,000 --> 02:10:51,880
Speaker 1: but it ain't helping his grip. I can tell you that.

2790
02:10:52,240 --> 02:10:55,520
Speaker 3: All right, let's play rate my lift form. Here's former

2791
02:10:55,560 --> 02:10:57,440
Speaker 3: two division champion Connor McGregor.

2792
02:10:59,480 --> 02:11:05,520
Speaker 1: So this is the Alaicho trap bar does he always

2793
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:06,400
Speaker 1: work out with an erection?

2794
02:11:06,520 --> 02:11:06,560
Speaker 3: Like?

2795
02:11:06,600 --> 02:11:08,760
Speaker 1: What is he doing? Remember that?

2796
02:11:08,920 --> 02:11:11,160
Speaker 3: Remember that that phoner he had at the way in

2797
02:11:11,240 --> 02:11:12,280
Speaker 3: against Floyd.

2798
02:11:12,000 --> 02:11:14,920
Speaker 1: Looking he was super. I mean I'll say this, like

2799
02:11:15,040 --> 02:11:18,040
Speaker 1: the form and dude, why are you wearing the gloves? Dude.

2800
02:11:18,240 --> 02:11:21,240
Speaker 1: I've used this bar. I've used this very bar many

2801
02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:23,600
Speaker 1: many times. The neuraling is not that rough on your

2802
02:11:23,600 --> 02:11:26,480
Speaker 1: hands at all. You don't need it. Number one and

2803
02:11:26,600 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 1: number two, the form on this you should be a

2804
02:11:28,760 --> 02:11:31,200
Speaker 1: little bit forgiving because it's not a strict deadlift that

2805
02:11:31,280 --> 02:11:33,880
Speaker 1: the hands are in a sort of a side by

2806
02:11:33,880 --> 02:11:37,040
Speaker 1: side position versus over under or on top, and so

2807
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:40,160
Speaker 1: you know, and because there's no bar to pull against you,

2808
02:11:40,240 --> 02:11:42,280
Speaker 1: it gets a little wobbly in the middle. So that's fine.

2809
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:44,160
Speaker 1: The only thing I'll say on these these are called

2810
02:11:44,200 --> 02:11:46,920
Speaker 1: power blocks that he's using, which are also great. I

2811
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:49,560
Speaker 1: don't mind this, uh in terms of the range of motion,

2812
02:11:49,680 --> 02:11:52,520
Speaker 1: but I would just caution everyone if you're lifting weights,

2813
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:55,839
Speaker 1: your boy had to get surgery for this very reason.

2814
02:11:56,520 --> 02:11:59,960
Speaker 1: I was lifting on a bench press and my elbow

2815
02:12:00,200 --> 02:12:03,200
Speaker 1: were two flared out to my side, and it caused

2816
02:12:03,240 --> 02:12:05,560
Speaker 1: on the on the you know, the pull down or

2817
02:12:05,600 --> 02:12:09,280
Speaker 1: the eccentric portion of the weight. It caused my shoulder

2818
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:11,480
Speaker 1: to rip. So what you actually want to do is

2819
02:12:11,520 --> 02:12:13,320
Speaker 1: you don't want your elbows at your sides. You don't

2820
02:12:13,320 --> 02:12:14,920
Speaker 1: want them flared out. You kind of want them at

2821
02:12:14,920 --> 02:12:18,120
Speaker 1: forty five. That is a safe position for your elbows

2822
02:12:18,120 --> 02:12:19,520
Speaker 1: to be in when you bench, And you also want

2823
02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:21,760
Speaker 1: to make sure that you're you got some good scapular

2824
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:25,360
Speaker 1: retraction going on in there. Play played the McGregor one

2825
02:12:25,400 --> 02:12:26,560
Speaker 1: one more time. I want to see the last one

2826
02:12:26,560 --> 02:12:29,760
Speaker 1: they did it, Diesel bro Yeah, he's he's been in

2827
02:12:29,800 --> 02:12:31,920
Speaker 1: the weight My man's been in the weight room for sure.

2828
02:12:32,240 --> 02:12:35,320
Speaker 3: That one seventy beginning here, I think he's coming for

2829
02:12:35,400 --> 02:12:37,040
Speaker 3: that belt, Luke, we'll see, all.

2830
02:12:36,960 --> 02:12:38,640
Speaker 1: Right, hold on, there's the curl. Yeah, he was doing

2831
02:12:38,680 --> 02:12:41,320
Speaker 1: the curls. Same thing. He's cheating him a little bit.

2832
02:12:41,320 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 1: He see AWA's thrusting with his hip and his and

2833
02:12:43,400 --> 02:12:47,040
Speaker 1: his morning wood or whatever, and he's coming off he

2834
02:12:47,120 --> 02:12:48,520
Speaker 1: and he's coming off his heels to a little bit.

2835
02:12:48,520 --> 02:12:49,480
Speaker 1: He's cheak curling them a little bit.

2836
02:12:49,520 --> 02:12:52,000
Speaker 3: Anyways, beat the Irish curse, Luke. It's possible. He has

2837
02:12:52,000 --> 02:12:54,160
Speaker 3: a lot of money. Oh, look, you believe in stretching

2838
02:12:54,280 --> 02:12:55,480
Speaker 3: before lifting.

2839
02:12:56,240 --> 02:12:58,080
Speaker 1: Sort of but not really. It's actually turns out it

2840
02:12:58,200 --> 02:12:59,800
Speaker 1: can be not that great for you actually want to

2841
02:13:00,080 --> 02:13:01,600
Speaker 1: much afterwards. Why what do you think.

2842
02:13:01,480 --> 02:13:03,640
Speaker 3: About contortion lifting? Is there a future in that? Look,

2843
02:13:03,720 --> 02:13:04,280
Speaker 3: let's check out this.

2844
02:13:04,360 --> 02:13:10,280
Speaker 1: See this is fake? Right? What the fuck is this?

2845
02:13:10,880 --> 02:13:12,360
Speaker 3: Can we go full screen? Gaffney?

2846
02:13:12,520 --> 02:13:12,840
Speaker 1: Please?

2847
02:13:15,680 --> 02:13:16,600
Speaker 3: This is disturbing.

2848
02:13:17,720 --> 02:13:19,200
Speaker 1: What part of Siberia is this?

2849
02:13:20,160 --> 02:13:22,520
Speaker 3: Dude? This is from the moon? This from you know?

2850
02:13:22,720 --> 02:13:25,760
Speaker 1: Also, this guy contorts his back in the worst way

2851
02:13:25,840 --> 02:13:28,240
Speaker 1: possible and then has to have fucked up mechanical motion

2852
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:33,680
Speaker 1: as a consequence. He's like, dude, well I get that

2853
02:13:33,760 --> 02:13:36,040
Speaker 1: you okay, So for folks who don't realize this, we

2854
02:13:36,640 --> 02:13:39,000
Speaker 1: actually you do want your feet a little bit behind

2855
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:41,920
Speaker 1: your knees and kind of tucked behind you. And if

2856
02:13:41,960 --> 02:13:44,160
Speaker 1: you actually look at the way a certain bench presses

2857
02:13:44,280 --> 02:13:47,240
Speaker 1: is done in professional competition, some of them actually don't

2858
02:13:47,280 --> 02:13:49,520
Speaker 1: necessarily make you put your heel on the ground behind you.

2859
02:13:49,760 --> 02:13:51,520
Speaker 1: So when you when you get your body to go

2860
02:13:51,720 --> 02:13:53,760
Speaker 1: like that, you're actually tightening up all the muscles for

2861
02:13:53,880 --> 02:13:57,560
Speaker 1: maximum push. Taking it a little far, BC, taking it

2862
02:13:57,640 --> 02:13:59,760
Speaker 1: a little far. If your feet, if your shins are

2863
02:13:59,800 --> 02:14:02,680
Speaker 1: on a bench, maybe don't bench how about that?

2864
02:14:03,160 --> 02:14:06,280
Speaker 3: If you can please yourself, you're probably going too far there, Marilyn.

2865
02:14:06,720 --> 02:14:09,280
Speaker 1: Oh, he definitely. That dude has definitely asked his own

2866
02:14:09,320 --> 02:14:12,680
Speaker 1: d God, that's a guarantee. That's a guarantee.

2867
02:14:13,280 --> 02:14:15,280
Speaker 3: Look, is this an impressive lift or no. I get

2868
02:14:15,320 --> 02:14:17,160
Speaker 3: a lot of lifting videos sent to me. I usually

2869
02:14:17,200 --> 02:14:18,520
Speaker 3: throw him out. But what do you think about this?

2870
02:14:19,240 --> 02:14:24,600
Speaker 1: He's lifting dumbbell wrecks. Yeah, so it's just a standard

2871
02:14:24,680 --> 02:14:27,920
Speaker 1: block pole. It just looks funny for the gram That's

2872
02:14:27,960 --> 02:14:30,120
Speaker 1: all it is. You notice he starts pretty high. It's

2873
02:14:30,160 --> 02:14:34,360
Speaker 1: called a block pole. Hey, yeah, it's legit. It's legit.

2874
02:14:34,400 --> 02:14:36,400
Speaker 3: It's not a full on deadlift, but it's you gotta

2875
02:14:36,440 --> 02:14:39,440
Speaker 3: be strong as ship to do that. Like like shop

2876
02:14:39,480 --> 02:14:41,480
Speaker 3: once told you you got a problem with the four hundred.

2877
02:14:43,040 --> 02:14:46,839
Speaker 1: No shop can shop can like with not great technique.

2878
02:14:46,840 --> 02:14:50,280
Speaker 1: He can deadlift six, which is horsepower strong.

2879
02:14:50,320 --> 02:14:53,040
Speaker 3: I mean he's strongly ship that guy. It's time to

2880
02:14:53,120 --> 02:14:55,800
Speaker 3: visit the barber shop, Luke, Loup. You like uh, Luke,

2881
02:14:55,880 --> 02:14:56,360
Speaker 3: excuse me?

2882
02:14:56,480 --> 02:14:57,040
Speaker 1: You like art?

2883
02:14:57,160 --> 02:15:00,200
Speaker 3: You like tattoos? How about this raisor Ramone hair cut

2884
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:02,120
Speaker 3: in honor of the late Scott Hall your thoughts?

2885
02:15:03,600 --> 02:15:05,880
Speaker 1: I mean, it's good at this guy getting his haircut

2886
02:15:06,000 --> 02:15:07,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have a job.

2887
02:15:10,720 --> 02:15:13,600
Speaker 3: All right, Uh, let's move on to the next haircut, Luke.

2888
02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:17,440
Speaker 3: The future is so bright for this guy. He ordered

2889
02:15:17,480 --> 02:15:18,040
Speaker 3: the ray band.

2890
02:15:18,080 --> 02:15:23,000
Speaker 1: Look, Luke, there's a lot of bored white people in

2891
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:23,440
Speaker 1: this country.

2892
02:15:24,360 --> 02:15:27,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is. This guy's a donk for sure. All right,

2893
02:15:27,400 --> 02:15:29,480
Speaker 3: let's go out in the streets, Luke. Uh, you got

2894
02:15:29,520 --> 02:15:31,400
Speaker 3: any tips on how to avoid the cops. I've never

2895
02:15:31,440 --> 02:15:32,320
Speaker 3: seen this move before?

2896
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:44,440
Speaker 1: Did he just grany? You got me? He scrambles free

2897
02:15:44,840 --> 02:15:46,400
Speaker 1: see a copper.

2898
02:15:47,960 --> 02:15:49,920
Speaker 3: You know, doing the car wheel has to freeze them.

2899
02:15:50,040 --> 02:15:51,840
Speaker 3: That's that's probably a decent move, Luke.

2900
02:15:52,480 --> 02:15:54,800
Speaker 1: Dude, he just Tony Ferguson. He was like, fuck, no,

2901
02:15:54,920 --> 02:15:56,800
Speaker 1: you know who he is. That's like the poor man's

2902
02:15:56,840 --> 02:15:57,640
Speaker 1: Michelle Pereira.

2903
02:15:58,280 --> 02:16:02,160
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, indeed, indeed, Luke, I don't think this video

2904
02:16:02,240 --> 02:16:03,960
Speaker 3: is real, but I was entertained by it. Shout out

2905
02:16:03,960 --> 02:16:06,720
Speaker 3: to former or current Guns N' Roses Guitars Slash for

2906
02:16:07,320 --> 02:16:09,760
Speaker 3: sharing it. This Asian lady out here taking souls?

2907
02:16:09,840 --> 02:16:20,200
Speaker 1: Luke, Is this some Instagram trick? Yes? Oh, yes, yes

2908
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:22,440
Speaker 1: it is? Okay, all right, you know what that's like?

2909
02:16:22,520 --> 02:16:25,160
Speaker 1: That bitch? Obi Wan? Oh you want me to fight you,

2910
02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:27,680
Speaker 1: Darth Vader. I'm out of here, see you in the

2911
02:16:27,760 --> 02:16:28,320
Speaker 1: nether world.

2912
02:16:28,680 --> 02:16:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you could argue that although obi Wan spent

2913
02:16:31,240 --> 02:16:33,960
Speaker 3: most of his career hiding in the Desert. He did

2914
02:16:34,040 --> 02:16:36,560
Speaker 3: get the higher ground on that bitch Anakin and took

2915
02:16:36,640 --> 02:16:37,879
Speaker 3: him out at mustafhar.

2916
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:40,480
Speaker 1: Dude, Yeah, well Anakin is a hoe. I mean that

2917
02:16:40,600 --> 02:16:42,400
Speaker 1: was the worst part about it. They couldn't even make

2918
02:16:42,440 --> 02:16:44,560
Speaker 1: Anakin cool. They had to turn into a whiny ass bitch.

2919
02:16:44,560 --> 02:16:46,080
Speaker 1: And it's like, you want me now to believe that

2920
02:16:46,160 --> 02:16:49,560
Speaker 1: this guy turned into Darth Vader, really a football cop and.

2921
02:16:49,600 --> 02:16:51,440
Speaker 3: He was a badass. Yeah, all right, Look, we got

2922
02:16:51,520 --> 02:16:52,959
Speaker 3: to keep this going here before we're here for three

2923
02:16:53,000 --> 02:16:56,160
Speaker 3: hours and you get another job. Rate that tat Rock

2924
02:16:56,240 --> 02:16:57,680
Speaker 3: Lesner Super Fan Edition.

2925
02:16:59,160 --> 02:17:02,480
Speaker 1: Oh dear fucking Jesus, that just I don't even want

2926
02:17:02,520 --> 02:17:04,040
Speaker 1: to say what that looks like. That is?

2927
02:17:07,160 --> 02:17:08,760
Speaker 3: Look you big Jonas brother fan?

2928
02:17:08,920 --> 02:17:09,280
Speaker 1: How big?

2929
02:17:09,440 --> 02:17:10,959
Speaker 3: Let's check out this next tattoo.

2930
02:17:16,520 --> 02:17:18,960
Speaker 1: Is that a tramp stamp? Yeah?

2931
02:17:19,560 --> 02:17:21,400
Speaker 3: Yeah it is, dude, it really is.

2932
02:17:21,560 --> 02:17:27,400
Speaker 1: Okay, dude, there are some people that I saw some

2933
02:17:27,440 --> 02:17:29,280
Speaker 1: people getting tatoos yesterday, and some of them were like

2934
02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:31,720
Speaker 1: super high quality. Yeah, and then there were some that

2935
02:17:31,800 --> 02:17:36,160
Speaker 1: I was like, you're making a mistake.

2936
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:38,119
Speaker 3: Well did this next one show up at the DC

2937
02:17:38,280 --> 02:17:41,040
Speaker 3: Tattoo Convention, Luke. They'll put anybody on the body these days,

2938
02:17:41,080 --> 02:17:43,199
Speaker 3: even Mago metoff has Beulah.

2939
02:17:43,520 --> 02:17:49,560
Speaker 1: Oh you know, it's not terrible. It's not terrible. It's okay, Luke.

2940
02:17:49,560 --> 02:17:51,920
Speaker 3: Speaking of has Beulah, everybody seems to have a story

2941
02:17:51,959 --> 02:17:54,920
Speaker 3: who met him, of getting like their eyes scratched or

2942
02:17:55,080 --> 02:17:57,480
Speaker 3: like they're dick punched. Did you see this video? I

2943
02:17:57,520 --> 02:17:59,280
Speaker 3: don't know who this guy is, but he turned has

2944
02:17:59,360 --> 02:18:03,240
Speaker 3: Bulah upside down and look at the receipt that the

2945
02:18:03,440 --> 02:18:05,120
Speaker 3: that the fighting legend is given out here.

2946
02:18:07,640 --> 02:18:13,360
Speaker 1: Okay, I mean with him wha. You know what though,

2947
02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:17,000
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you people putting hands on Hasbula yo,

2948
02:18:17,120 --> 02:18:20,280
Speaker 1: fuck them, man. I completely support Hasbulla. Don't pick him

2949
02:18:20,360 --> 02:18:21,760
Speaker 1: up like he's a fucking prop.

2950
02:18:22,480 --> 02:18:26,000
Speaker 3: Somebody needs to make a like a compilation of all

2951
02:18:26,040 --> 02:18:28,720
Speaker 3: the fighters who have stories of getting like punched, you know,

2952
02:18:28,879 --> 02:18:31,320
Speaker 3: really hard by Hasbuil like an I basically or in

2953
02:18:31,360 --> 02:18:31,800
Speaker 3: the ass.

2954
02:18:31,879 --> 02:18:33,480
Speaker 1: I want to see his highlight reel. That's what I

2955
02:18:33,520 --> 02:18:33,920
Speaker 1: want to say.

2956
02:18:33,959 --> 02:18:36,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Ko of the Week, Luke, It wasn't that

2957
02:18:37,040 --> 02:18:40,520
Speaker 3: boxing one. It comes from U A e W twenty seven.

2958
02:18:40,920 --> 02:18:44,800
Speaker 3: The man's name is Colin Awa. Thank you to Kaposa

2959
02:18:44,879 --> 02:18:45,760
Speaker 3: for putting this out there.

2960
02:18:46,160 --> 02:18:50,320
Speaker 1: Whoa a little bit off balance?

2961
02:18:50,400 --> 02:18:59,440
Speaker 3: Both guys were, Yeah, yeah, all right, let's keep it going. Here, Luke,

2962
02:18:59,480 --> 02:19:01,879
Speaker 3: we have Oh there's another video. Wow? Look at that. Wow.

2963
02:19:02,120 --> 02:19:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't think that looks like a Tyler Perry movie knockout.

2964
02:19:06,240 --> 02:19:09,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, it really was. Look this was we got footage

2965
02:19:09,640 --> 02:19:13,680
Speaker 3: of as soon as we finished our first Rooftop Diaries

2966
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:17,040
Speaker 3: episode with Chuck, remember that time we all threw up.

2967
02:19:17,080 --> 02:19:19,800
Speaker 3: We finally have the video. We got the Malkas security

2968
02:19:19,879 --> 02:19:20,520
Speaker 3: cameras here.

2969
02:19:20,560 --> 02:19:25,560
Speaker 1: Luke, that is lovely. Put that in the loover. Some

2970
02:19:25,800 --> 02:19:28,959
Speaker 1: drunk asshole slipping in his own puke. Yes, please more

2971
02:19:29,040 --> 02:19:30,840
Speaker 1: of that? Fuck this guy.

2972
02:19:31,320 --> 02:19:33,959
Speaker 3: And finally, Luke, how much would it cost to get

2973
02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:34,600
Speaker 3: you to do this?

2974
02:19:45,879 --> 02:19:46,160
Speaker 1: Wow?

2975
02:19:46,840 --> 02:19:49,320
Speaker 3: I mean, first of all, that guy must have thrown

2976
02:19:49,440 --> 02:19:52,560
Speaker 3: up for like three hours after this, No question about it, dude,

2977
02:19:52,840 --> 02:19:53,360
Speaker 3: no question.

2978
02:19:55,280 --> 02:19:59,440
Speaker 1: I have seen people eat entirely lit blunts. I've seen that.

2979
02:20:00,760 --> 02:20:04,400
Speaker 1: I've never seen someone eat a cigarette butt. Well, the

2980
02:20:04,440 --> 02:20:07,080
Speaker 1: good news is the good news is that I don't

2981
02:20:07,200 --> 02:20:12,200
Speaker 1: feel like any efforts at you know, scientific progress will

2982
02:20:12,240 --> 02:20:15,119
Speaker 1: be impeded by this man's consumption of good point. Good point.

2983
02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:18,200
Speaker 1: He seems like, what's the word I'm looking for? Idiot?

2984
02:20:18,640 --> 02:20:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's wait yeah, all right, that's the shit, Luke.

2985
02:20:21,160 --> 02:20:23,200
Speaker 3: That was a long one, but worth it all right.

2986
02:20:23,200 --> 02:20:25,200
Speaker 1: With that in mind, will wrap this upretty quickly. BC

2987
02:20:25,400 --> 02:20:26,880
Speaker 1: time for odds and ends. What do you got?

2988
02:20:27,080 --> 02:20:29,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, so big news here. We know that George Cambosis

2989
02:20:29,360 --> 02:20:32,320
Speaker 3: upset Tayo Fema Lopez Junior to get most of the

2990
02:20:32,400 --> 02:20:35,880
Speaker 3: lightweight titles, and he's been linked with Vasili Lomachenko and

2991
02:20:35,879 --> 02:20:37,680
Speaker 3: a few others. Limachenko had to pull out of the fight,

2992
02:20:37,760 --> 02:20:39,240
Speaker 3: of course because he's on the front lines in the

2993
02:20:39,360 --> 02:20:42,960
Speaker 3: Ukrainian conflict with Russia. But Luke, we've got a winner,

2994
02:20:43,240 --> 02:20:47,080
Speaker 3: and it's Devin Haney. According to ESPN's Mike Coppinger, a

2995
02:20:47,200 --> 02:20:50,200
Speaker 3: big time deal has been crafted. Devin Haney, who is

2996
02:20:50,320 --> 02:20:53,520
Speaker 3: now a promotional and network free agent after being with

2997
02:20:53,600 --> 02:20:55,360
Speaker 3: his own and Eddie hern in the last few fights,

2998
02:20:56,400 --> 02:20:59,360
Speaker 3: is going to come to ESPN Top Rank and lou

2999
02:20:59,440 --> 02:21:02,280
Speaker 3: de Bella developed promotes George Cambosis and they worked out

3000
02:21:02,320 --> 02:21:05,480
Speaker 3: a deal. So here's the deal. He's gonna fight George Cambosis.

3001
02:21:05,560 --> 02:21:08,960
Speaker 3: Now Haney has the WBC title, all four lightweight titles

3002
02:21:08,959 --> 02:21:10,840
Speaker 3: will be on the line. It's gonna take place this

3003
02:21:10,920 --> 02:21:14,440
Speaker 3: spring in Australia and there's a rematch clause in there

3004
02:21:14,959 --> 02:21:18,680
Speaker 3: that if Devin Haney wins, they would rematch in Melbourne.

3005
02:21:19,320 --> 02:21:22,200
Speaker 3: And also I heard there's a potential option on a

3006
02:21:22,440 --> 02:21:25,680
Speaker 3: third fight for the winner if they fight twice, and

3007
02:21:25,720 --> 02:21:29,760
Speaker 3: if it's Haney to then fight Vasili Lomachenko on ESPN

3008
02:21:29,840 --> 02:21:33,160
Speaker 3: pay per view for all four lightweight titles. Now that's

3009
02:21:33,160 --> 02:21:35,160
Speaker 3: a big if he's got to beat Cambosis not only

3010
02:21:35,240 --> 02:21:38,720
Speaker 3: once but twice. But Luke, we're talking about potential of

3011
02:21:38,800 --> 02:21:41,760
Speaker 3: these young stars finally getting the fights that they deserve,

3012
02:21:41,840 --> 02:21:44,560
Speaker 3: that we deserve as fans. Shout out to Devin Haney

3013
02:21:44,680 --> 02:21:48,720
Speaker 3: for you know, waiting and then moving when it was time,

3014
02:21:49,280 --> 02:21:51,360
Speaker 3: because I know he's got to beat the champ twice

3015
02:21:51,400 --> 02:21:53,760
Speaker 3: and that's not perfect, but he's got a chance to

3016
02:21:53,800 --> 02:21:56,000
Speaker 3: become a star now. Because the Zone wanted nothing to

3017
02:21:56,040 --> 02:21:57,199
Speaker 3: do with paying for this fight.

3018
02:21:58,560 --> 02:22:01,200
Speaker 1: Good for him. Somebody else did play it up. If

3019
02:22:01,240 --> 02:22:03,440
Speaker 1: he gets all four belts, dude, I mean, who knows

3020
02:22:03,480 --> 02:22:06,119
Speaker 1: what that might do for tank any of these scenarios.

3021
02:22:06,160 --> 02:22:09,879
Speaker 1: There's a lot that could shuffle around due to all

3022
02:22:09,959 --> 02:22:11,760
Speaker 1: of this happening in the way that it is, because

3023
02:22:11,879 --> 02:22:14,360
Speaker 1: as you pointed out, they're carrying with them whoever wins

3024
02:22:14,520 --> 02:22:15,879
Speaker 1: all the effing belts.

3025
02:22:16,480 --> 02:22:19,560
Speaker 3: And look, Devin Haney is the talent's real and he's

3026
02:22:19,560 --> 02:22:23,480
Speaker 3: had the wins over Gamboa Lnaris, Jojo Diaz. There's been

3027
02:22:23,520 --> 02:22:25,960
Speaker 3: some moments where we questioned him, but he looks to

3028
02:22:26,040 --> 02:22:27,800
Speaker 3: be legit. Luke, there's gonna be a tough fight. He's

3029
02:22:27,800 --> 02:22:30,240
Speaker 3: gonna be an enemy territory. We know Cambosis comes for it,

3030
02:22:30,440 --> 02:22:32,040
Speaker 3: we know the crowd is gonna be nuts, will do

3031
02:22:32,080 --> 02:22:34,400
Speaker 3: a stadium basically down there. But this will be a

3032
02:22:34,440 --> 02:22:36,520
Speaker 3: fun event and we'll probably see it twice. Luke, I

3033
02:22:36,600 --> 02:22:38,920
Speaker 3: know that all the Australian fans like BC. Really, you

3034
02:22:38,959 --> 02:22:41,400
Speaker 3: guys counted all Cambosis against Tao. Now you're gonna count

3035
02:22:41,400 --> 02:22:43,800
Speaker 3: them out against Haney. I mean, the odds are gonna

3036
02:22:43,800 --> 02:22:45,200
Speaker 3: be what they're gonna be, Luke, but this should be

3037
02:22:45,240 --> 02:22:45,680
Speaker 3: fun to watch.

3038
02:22:46,080 --> 02:22:47,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, listen, I'm gonna keep my mouth shut and just

3039
02:22:47,920 --> 02:22:50,920
Speaker 1: say I can't wait to see what it happens. But good,

3040
02:22:51,120 --> 02:22:53,000
Speaker 1: good for all these guys, Good for dude, Good for

3041
02:22:53,080 --> 02:22:55,280
Speaker 1: Cambosis getting the belts and then bringing him back home

3042
02:22:55,640 --> 02:22:57,959
Speaker 1: and then making the challenger who wants them to come

3043
02:22:58,040 --> 02:23:00,200
Speaker 1: get them. I mean, I realized that, dude. We're unifying here.

3044
02:23:00,240 --> 02:23:03,920
Speaker 1: But you know what I'm saying. Good for him, dude, seriously,

3045
02:23:04,160 --> 02:23:07,160
Speaker 1: or he earned it times a thousand.

3046
02:23:06,920 --> 02:23:08,240
Speaker 3: So yeah, good for boxing too.

3047
02:23:08,600 --> 02:23:10,800
Speaker 1: Let's make boxing. That's right, Good for boxing, all right.

3048
02:23:10,840 --> 02:23:14,640
Speaker 1: Mine's pretty simple, dude. So I'm not sure what to

3049
02:23:14,720 --> 02:23:16,840
Speaker 1: say about this. I don't often come on the show

3050
02:23:16,920 --> 02:23:19,000
Speaker 1: and say what I'm about to say, but this time

3051
02:23:19,120 --> 02:23:24,120
Speaker 1: I have to. John Jones is right. There was an

3052
02:23:24,200 --> 02:23:26,680
Speaker 1: article that came out in the Las Vegas Review Journal

3053
02:23:26,800 --> 02:23:31,160
Speaker 1: over the weekend talking about the people who were involved

3054
02:23:31,280 --> 02:23:33,440
Speaker 1: in that Remember that Chail son in hotel incident, and

3055
02:23:33,480 --> 02:23:35,080
Speaker 1: it got reported as like he beat up a bunch

3056
02:23:35,080 --> 02:23:37,400
Speaker 1: of people who were insulting and maybe even attacking his wife,

3057
02:23:38,280 --> 02:23:40,320
Speaker 1: and then some of the details came out in this article. Now,

3058
02:23:40,360 --> 02:23:42,360
Speaker 1: again I want to be very clear about this. Like John,

3059
02:23:42,600 --> 02:23:45,440
Speaker 1: like Chail, they're both innocent until proven guilty. We have

3060
02:23:45,760 --> 02:23:47,560
Speaker 1: and I think John situation is going to be resolved

3061
02:23:47,600 --> 02:23:50,240
Speaker 1: if it hasn't been already. You know, it is what

3062
02:23:50,360 --> 02:23:52,320
Speaker 1: it is, And for Chail, he'll have his day in

3063
02:23:52,400 --> 02:23:54,520
Speaker 1: court or whatever's going to happen. But remember he was

3064
02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:57,680
Speaker 1: initially charged with like five sort of misdemeanor counts. Those

3065
02:23:57,720 --> 02:23:59,560
Speaker 1: were pulled out and they charged him with a lot more,

3066
02:23:59,600 --> 02:24:02,120
Speaker 1: including a felony or two count. On top of it,

3067
02:24:02,200 --> 02:24:03,960
Speaker 1: this article comes out and talks about the couple that

3068
02:24:04,200 --> 02:24:08,080
Speaker 1: was allegedly attacked. They it's apparently a dentist and his wife,

3069
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:12,440
Speaker 1: who said that it was entirely unprovoked. What really gets

3070
02:24:12,520 --> 02:24:14,840
Speaker 1: worse about it is they talked to in the article,

3071
02:24:14,959 --> 02:24:18,360
Speaker 1: reportedly Chaill's son and his wife, and she said she

3072
02:24:18,440 --> 02:24:21,080
Speaker 1: had taken an ambient at four and then missed all

3073
02:24:21,160 --> 02:24:23,760
Speaker 1: the brawl and then just woke up with injuries. The

3074
02:24:23,840 --> 02:24:26,480
Speaker 1: couple claims when they saw Chail walking down the hallway,

3075
02:24:26,520 --> 02:24:29,480
Speaker 1: he was muttering to himself already had a bloody shirt on. Now,

3076
02:24:29,560 --> 02:24:31,879
Speaker 1: I don't know what all of this means, and obviously

3077
02:24:31,959 --> 02:24:33,600
Speaker 1: one can assume what it might means, and I'm not

3078
02:24:33,640 --> 02:24:35,160
Speaker 1: going to go there because I don't know. All I

3079
02:24:35,240 --> 02:24:39,160
Speaker 1: mean to say is these are relevant details that are serious,

3080
02:24:39,240 --> 02:24:42,200
Speaker 1: and they are bad. And John took to Twitter to say,

3081
02:24:42,320 --> 02:24:44,880
Speaker 1: you know, you know, everything I do gets magnified to

3082
02:24:44,920 --> 02:24:47,560
Speaker 1: the nth degree and it's been crickets for Chail. Dude,

3083
02:24:47,600 --> 02:24:50,120
Speaker 1: He's right, He's right, He's absolutely right about that. There

3084
02:24:50,200 --> 02:24:51,400
Speaker 1: was hardly any coverage about it.

3085
02:24:51,440 --> 02:24:51,520
Speaker 3: Now.

3086
02:24:51,520 --> 02:24:52,920
Speaker 1: I know it's a little bit different because the first

3087
02:24:52,959 --> 02:24:55,640
Speaker 1: story came out like Chail was some kind of last

3088
02:24:55,720 --> 02:24:57,960
Speaker 1: action hero, and then the story changed, and when the

3089
02:24:58,000 --> 02:25:01,240
Speaker 1: story changes, you know, typically people lose interest. But it's

3090
02:25:01,280 --> 02:25:04,520
Speaker 1: also true that Chail has been like people love Jail,

3091
02:25:04,680 --> 02:25:07,000
Speaker 1: and the media likes him, and the fans like him,

3092
02:25:07,000 --> 02:25:09,520
Speaker 1: and most of the fighters like him, and I definitely

3093
02:25:09,600 --> 02:25:13,520
Speaker 1: think that has tamponed down some of the response to

3094
02:25:13,640 --> 02:25:17,040
Speaker 1: this story, which the details, again, they are alleged, but

3095
02:25:17,160 --> 02:25:19,600
Speaker 1: they're heinous, they're not awesome at all.

3096
02:25:20,040 --> 02:25:21,920
Speaker 3: There's legitimate holes in the story that I want to

3097
02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:24,160
Speaker 3: bring up. But first of all, I agree John Jones

3098
02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:27,040
Speaker 3: is basically tweeting out that there's a double standard potentially here,

3099
02:25:27,080 --> 02:25:29,280
Speaker 3: and I think he's right because we like Chail, and

3100
02:25:29,320 --> 02:25:32,440
Speaker 3: because it was framed originally what that Chail was walking

3101
02:25:32,520 --> 02:25:35,360
Speaker 3: through the Luxer at seven point forty five or whatever,

3102
02:25:35,640 --> 02:25:40,000
Speaker 3: you know, something and ran into some donks and then

3103
02:25:40,400 --> 02:25:43,400
Speaker 3: you know, of course Chail apparently texted Brendan Shab that

3104
02:25:43,760 --> 02:25:45,680
Speaker 3: one of them insulted his wife, So he was just

3105
02:25:45,760 --> 02:25:48,680
Speaker 3: defending himself. So we took on this hero vibe of

3106
02:25:48,760 --> 02:25:51,640
Speaker 3: oh god, chail did what well Will Smith did right.

3107
02:25:51,800 --> 02:25:54,360
Speaker 3: Chaill did what any real man would do, right, And

3108
02:25:54,840 --> 02:25:56,720
Speaker 3: you know then Chals gets dropped to the charges and

3109
02:25:56,760 --> 02:25:58,960
Speaker 3: we come on them came We're like, wow, teflon chail Man,

3110
02:25:59,200 --> 02:26:02,440
Speaker 3: you know, like nothing touched him. He's undefeated. But now

3111
02:26:02,520 --> 02:26:04,520
Speaker 3: the story's coming out. And what's interesting, Luke is the

3112
02:26:04,640 --> 02:26:08,080
Speaker 3: dentist heard the comments from Shab on the podcast that's

3113
02:26:08,120 --> 02:26:11,080
Speaker 3: echoing what we thought it was framed as, and then

3114
02:26:11,200 --> 02:26:13,440
Speaker 3: was like, no, no, no. First of all, he's claiming

3115
02:26:13,480 --> 02:26:17,000
Speaker 3: it happened at the Four Seasons, which is a little

3116
02:26:17,040 --> 02:26:19,280
Speaker 3: bit down the strip next to the Mandelay Bay from

3117
02:26:19,560 --> 02:26:22,879
Speaker 3: the Luxer. So I don't know if Chall had an

3118
02:26:22,920 --> 02:26:26,119
Speaker 3: incident at the Luxer and then returned to his hotel

3119
02:26:26,120 --> 02:26:28,480
Speaker 3: at the Four Seasons, because this doctor and his wife

3120
02:26:28,480 --> 02:26:31,520
Speaker 3: are claiming when Chaill showed up there, he had a torn,

3121
02:26:31,760 --> 02:26:35,320
Speaker 3: bloody shirt around his throat and he was shoeless, and

3122
02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:38,600
Speaker 3: he not only knocked out a dude who walked by him,

3123
02:26:39,000 --> 02:26:42,039
Speaker 3: he put this doctor in a choke hold and jacked

3124
02:26:42,080 --> 02:26:45,040
Speaker 3: up the wife and she was bleeding. And it's a

3125
02:26:45,120 --> 02:26:47,959
Speaker 3: really scary story, Luke. And then there's those details about

3126
02:26:48,000 --> 02:26:51,360
Speaker 3: his wife who claimed she had the ambient but woke

3127
02:26:51,480 --> 02:26:54,320
Speaker 3: up with all these bruises and is claiming Chaill didn't

3128
02:26:54,360 --> 02:26:55,720
Speaker 3: hit her. So I mean, there's a lot that we

3129
02:26:55,879 --> 02:26:59,800
Speaker 3: don't know still, but there's a lot that's disturbing about this.

3130
02:27:00,320 --> 02:27:04,199
Speaker 1: And ESPN has said he won't appear on anything until

3131
02:27:04,320 --> 02:27:08,560
Speaker 1: the situation is resolved one way or the other. Like

3132
02:27:08,840 --> 02:27:10,200
Speaker 1: I mean, know again, I'm not here to say that

3133
02:27:10,320 --> 02:27:12,760
Speaker 1: Chaal's record is the same as John's. I mean, there's

3134
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:16,840
Speaker 1: meaningful differences between the two. But to John's point that like, dude,

3135
02:27:16,959 --> 02:27:19,959
Speaker 1: relative to what he is being accused versus what people

3136
02:27:20,000 --> 02:27:22,120
Speaker 1: are saying out there, you know. And again if he

3137
02:27:22,240 --> 02:27:23,800
Speaker 1: had done that, which again it would be a very

3138
02:27:23,800 --> 02:27:25,960
Speaker 1: different thing. For all of the previous incidents he's been

3139
02:27:26,000 --> 02:27:28,720
Speaker 1: involved in, this one I think is chails. I don't

3140
02:27:28,720 --> 02:27:30,040
Speaker 1: know if he's had many run ins with the law,

3141
02:27:30,040 --> 02:27:31,600
Speaker 1: and I thought I can recall offhand. I mean, there

3142
02:27:31,680 --> 02:27:33,280
Speaker 1: was the real estate thing, but we're talking about violent

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Speaker 1: acts in public. The more I'm trying to make here

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Speaker 1: is you don't see a lot of chatter about it,

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Speaker 1: and there it's serious it's super serious. Again, alleged, but

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Speaker 1: it's serious.

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Speaker 3: I saw an interview that was recent at the Eagle

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Speaker 3: FC fight with the Schmo and he asked it comedically,

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Speaker 3: but asked Jail about the incident. Chail just kind of

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Speaker 3: defended it and deflected it, like just went on to

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Speaker 3: the next topic and whatever. But Luke, there's also, like

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Speaker 3: you know, if you read the story further, the security

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Speaker 3: team that showed up because we'll allegedly assaulted somebody. Then

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Speaker 3: as this couple was walking back to the room, knocked

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Speaker 3: a drink out of a different guy's hand and assaulted him,

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Speaker 3: and then assaulted the guy and his wife as they're

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Speaker 3: pleading to stop, and then a security game came. Chail

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Speaker 3: is kneeing these guys in the face and elbowing them

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Speaker 3: and just putting on like a full MMA clinic against

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Speaker 3: whoever comes, you know, after him. So I don't know

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Speaker 3: if that Luxer incident preceded this or if it didn't happen,

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Speaker 3: but there's a lot of unanswered shit related to this,

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Speaker 3: And you know, the core of what you said is right,

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Speaker 3: anything that happens to John Jones because of his track

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Speaker 3: record and because he's not even close to as likable

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Speaker 3: affair or not. As a public character. We tend to

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Speaker 3: think the worst, and in this case we just automatically like,

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Speaker 3: oh god, jail defended his wife. Well done, man, good

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Speaker 3: for you, but learn your lesson. Never go to the

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Speaker 3: luxer again, right, you know?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, Luke, No, I mean for no other

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Speaker 1: reason that I just don't want bed bugs, you know

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Speaker 1: what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Indeed?

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Speaker 1: Indeed? Yeah, all right, So that's it for us, Dan,

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Speaker 1: we did a two and a half hour show today.

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Speaker 1: We got to get out of here BC's It was strong.

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Speaker 3: It was, it was strong.

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Speaker 1: It was a good show. It was a good show,

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Speaker 1: but it was it was still long. So let me

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Speaker 1: remind everyone the Gilbert Burns interview, I think we sat

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Speaker 1: with him for forty five minutes. It will be out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We're also gonna go out it either tonight or tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: We'll get out extra credit. We'll talk all about one

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Speaker 1: championship and the course of stuff we missed from the UFC,

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Speaker 1: So be on the lookout for that. Showtime dot Com

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Speaker 1: is the label that pays Showtime dot Com get a

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Speaker 1: thirty day free trophy. You like it, you can keep it.

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Speaker 1: If not, Pound Sand the email for the show Morningcombat

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Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. Send us there for Wednesday's fans ups.

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Speaker 1: Friday is dead wrong. Oh, We're gonna have a little

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Speaker 1: fun this week, so send us everything you possibly can

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Speaker 1: Morningcombat at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and fin week Slow fight Weeks, Slow Fight Week. Yes,

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Speaker 3: I notice, we're gonna have some fun. YouTube dot com

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Speaker 3: slash Morning Combat Lucas not just three live shows Monday,

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Speaker 3: Wednesday Friday, eleven am Eastern on the YouTube's we Hit

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Speaker 3: You Up with Interviews. We Hit you Up with extra

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Speaker 3: credit later today. Also, I chatted with Derek James, the

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Speaker 3: fantastic boxing trainer who's gonna be in Erro Spence's corner

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Speaker 3: coming up against Ugas. Also he's Jamel Charlos trainer ahead

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Speaker 3: of this castin you rematch. Very insightful chat. Not only

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02:30:02,959 --> 02:30:05,760
Speaker 3: was was Derek James great to chat with, but afterwards, Luke,

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Speaker 3: he was like, about time I showed up on this show.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, you know, won't be the last?

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Speaker 1: Won't won't be the last? Derek, I guarantee that, so

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Speaker 1: be on the lookout for that as well. Tons of

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Speaker 1: content coming your way, so like the video hit subscribe.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to everyone to Malka to CBS Sports to Showtime.

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Speaker 1: You can follow us there again at L Thomas News

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Speaker 1: on TikTok if you're interested in the TikTok miss Ah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and then that's it for us today. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for watching. We greatly appreciate it. We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you guys on Wednesday, being a lookout for the Glibert

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Speaker 1: Burns interview. And until next time, all of your gains

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Speaker 1: be loyal.