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Speaker 1: a deep dive into the biggest stories in sports, entertainment

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Speaker 1: Deeper conversations, always finding those life lessons that are presented

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Speaker 1: in every single story. I'm your host, ourself swally that dude.

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Speaker 1: On this world man, the sports, sports media and where

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Speaker 1: life intersects it all. Man, we're having a great time

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Speaker 1: over here. Oh man, I had a weekend. I gotta

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Speaker 1: take y'all through it. So y'all know how we start

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Speaker 1: is my life. This is my life right there for

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Speaker 1: you guys. It so love for you. Like I said, man,

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Speaker 1: I had a weekend. It seemed like sports media had

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Speaker 1: a weekend as well. We lost our first game in football.

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Speaker 1: Don't feel bad for us, don't feel bad for us

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Speaker 1: at all. Oh no, we have so many mental mistakes,

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Speaker 1: including myself. Right, I have my guys doing underhand on

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Speaker 1: one possession when it's supposed to be overhand, the difference

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Speaker 1: between running and passing in this league. I had a

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Speaker 1: mental error. I had a penalty in my head, right,

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Speaker 1: and then the guys out there, it's just our first

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Speaker 1: game together, just a little rusty. Now I'm saying all that,

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Speaker 1: but guess what we did. We lost eighteen to twenty

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Speaker 1: one to the best team in our division, and they

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Speaker 1: were good. Lord, I'm looking at them boys like I

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Speaker 1: could take a little of that, a little of that,

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Speaker 1: make that work. But they had a squad been together

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Speaker 1: for a few seasons and they're older. So I ain't

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Speaker 1: tell my kids any of this because I don't want

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Speaker 1: them making excuses. But I went out there like, discount

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Speaker 1: double check. I need to discount this game right now

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Speaker 1: because this one's gonna hurt. But it was a great

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Speaker 1: learning lesson and humbled our guys. A few of our

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Speaker 1: attitudes started to walk on clouds because they're not used

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Speaker 1: year and then they saw that same team.

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Speaker 2: In the championship game and beat them thirty to zero.

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Speaker 1: So looking forward to hopefully that being the same foreshadowing,

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Speaker 1: but we'll see. We got a lot of work to do,

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Speaker 1: and since they're getting older, you gotta throw the ball, dog.

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn. I was like, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: just say, the way our quarterback and our receivers work,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't always work out that way. No team, I

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Speaker 1: mean the team we played yesterday, they had this. They

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Speaker 2: The boy you guys.

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Speaker 1: But it was just fun to see, even in the loss,

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Speaker 2: And I stayed up all night thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: So it is own. I can't wait for our next game.

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Speaker 1: What else happened? I know, I like, I'm in a

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Speaker 1: And then you see a slide show and you see

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Speaker 2: So we had to tell the kids that morning.

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Speaker 1: So all that love, man, those roller coaster emotions this weekend,

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Speaker 1: all right, just get into some sports that get some

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Speaker 1: no one else does. Right, let's do it. T O

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Speaker 1: Shout out to those guys, my homies. So it was

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to let the cat out the bag.

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Speaker 1: That's not my role. I'm not Adam Schefter. I'm Blefter.

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Speaker 1: It's not my time to break the news, but it's

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Speaker 1: them for just kudos for opening it up. Because to

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Speaker 1: Get Your Popcorn Ready, He had that one, but no

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Speaker 2: So he got this opportunity to.

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Speaker 1: Talk about it. And the thing that he talked about,

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Speaker 1: if you guys watch it, it's about a ten minute clip.

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Speaker 1: He was really addressing just how stephen A and how

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Speaker 1: ESPN has miscarriedterized him and really got his name out

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Speaker 1: And this is just a straw that broke the camel's back,

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Speaker 1: him calling stephen A out and saying that Maxine Blacker

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Speaker 1: than him, a couple of things that really stuck out

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Speaker 1: through the science of it. We all know. This all

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Speaker 1: like we should really be far away from that, even

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Speaker 2: So they gave him the floor, they allowed him to.

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Speaker 1: sure they got a relationship.

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Speaker 2: With Steven A.

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Speaker 1: Smith as well, and when you don't have both parties

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Speaker 1: But they did step into a couple of moments and say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that wasn't right, especially the moment when Too talked about

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Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith out in his private messages. Okay, So

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Speaker 1: them for just say allowing you to speak. This is

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Speaker 1: But we're not gonna shoot for you, right, We ain't

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Speaker 2: You got to talk about what you talk about. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So the main thing that I heard was mister never personal.

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Speaker 1: Who is Steven A. Smith who swears by that like

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Speaker 1: he's never ever gotten personal with somebody, but then had

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Speaker 2: Mister never personal in his own code also.

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Speaker 1: Said that he never ever outs anyone private text messages,

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Speaker 1: private conversations. But I'm looking forward to him saying that

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Speaker 1: he actually did that in this conversation because Too broke

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Speaker 1: about in terms of he did air his private messages,

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Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith even admitted that privately. Here's the worst

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Speaker 1: part about it all that he admitted it privately to Too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: my bad for doing that. I thought it was a tweet,

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Speaker 1: money grab a witch hunt, ambulance chase to get some

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Speaker 1: it all started with like, man, I messed up out

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Speaker 1: of your messages and that wasn't right, and I shouldn't

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Speaker 1: have done that. And the only reason I really did that,

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Speaker 2: For calling me not as black as Max.

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Speaker 1: So he really did it out of a desperation attempt

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Speaker 1: to kind of shift the conversation because he was getting

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Speaker 1: public criticism of Too. Was right, y'all did that too,

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Speaker 1: Stephen Ay, You guys made stephen A all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden have to come out and now twist this story

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Speaker 1: horn or he's out for the money grab, when really

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Speaker 1: it was just nah, dog, we were talking privately about

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Speaker 1: something and you didn't have to put that out there

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Speaker 1: about that. Hey, if you want to talk about Max

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Speaker 1: Saint blacker than you and Nanna, I'm here for that.

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Speaker 1: I was on your show right then when you talked

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Speaker 1: That's what he said at that speech. Cinderella story is over. Man.

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Speaker 1: And this ain't about your uniform, then this ain't about

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Speaker 2: Yet that's what he said at halftime.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's go inside to huddle, Let's go inside to him,

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Speaker 2: I'm loving the fire that he possesses.

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Speaker 2: Keep game, Now, that's a dangerous game to play.

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Speaker 1: You got your boys up for this game because they

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Speaker 2: Now, why did Oregon get that hype for this game?

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Speaker 1: It's not just because they're that much better than Colorado,

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Speaker 2: But more, why.

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Speaker 1: But they know, damn well, we're gonna be captivating. Damn well,

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Speaker 1: That's how Oregon usually gets hyped up. They got muffled, right,

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Speaker 1: So now we got a dangerous game because we got

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Speaker 1: Just think about Bill Belichick, the greatest coach ever in

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Speaker 2: It's not about how they play, it's how we play.

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Speaker 1: Remember that when you finally learned that, because at first

436
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,480
Speaker 1: you were like, oh man, I'm playing against them, and

437
00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:46,199
Speaker 1: if they play bad, we're gonna win. And then you

438
00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:50,720
Speaker 1: start realizing that's good. But what's great is, and what's

439
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 1: reliable is, and what I can continue to repeat is

440
00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,360
Speaker 1: we play well, we good. And that's the dangerous game

441
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 1: that Dan in this player, he playing the game of Oregon.

442
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,920
Speaker 1: Get up for Colorado. Why because they trying to beat

443
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 1: us in our own game. Okay, now, coach, we're going

444
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:10,720
Speaker 1: to get up with some other people and they ain't

445
00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 1: playing that game.

446
00:22:11,680 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: They playing a greater game of.

447
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Speaker 1: Substance that you just told us that we were rooted

448
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Speaker 1: in against Colorado.

449
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:18,440
Speaker 2: But we only need more.

450
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: Substance than them because they ain't seem all hype to you.

451
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:24,480
Speaker 2: You can't get us up every week like that coach,

452
00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 2: what you gonna do next week?

453
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:28,000
Speaker 1: And I'm sure he got another trick up his sleeve,

454
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,160
Speaker 1: or be careful trying to play this game with them.

455
00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: So you told everybody that you are not full of hype,

456
00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: full of flash. Oregon, the same Oregon that has never

457
00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: won a national title. This is no shots, but let's

458
00:22:44,280 --> 00:22:49,400
Speaker 1: just be real. At least Colorado's won one nine conference

459
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: championships since nineteen sixty four, nine fifty eight tries, and

460
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,160
Speaker 1: y'all won nine conference championships.

461
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 2: I love to switch your rule, but I'm gonna be real.

462
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,879
Speaker 1: If I'm a player on that team, I'm like, all right, coach,

463
00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:09,320
Speaker 1: you went to that place. That place ain't gonna be

464
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Speaker 1: long for us. You know our schedule, we still gotta

465
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Speaker 1: see some real dogs. Look, we're a top program, We've

466
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:17,119
Speaker 1: been a top program for a while.

467
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: When we gonna get over this hump.

468
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:21,440
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because coach Day Lena has been bought

469
00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:23,719
Speaker 1: fourteen and three of things since he's been there, so

470
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,120
Speaker 1: it ain't like he ain't out there when But when

471
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: are they gonna get over the hump? When are they

472
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 1: gonna get beyond the hype and have the substance of

473
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 1: doing it all instead of just piecing this together. So

474
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Speaker 1: I just saw it was just a hype machine versus

475
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 1: a flash machine, and I love how Flash turned it

476
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: on to use it as fuel to get them to

477
00:23:45,040 --> 00:23:47,440
Speaker 1: where they had to go or gonna look good though,

478
00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:49,600
Speaker 1: say what you want, but Coach could have said what

479
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: he wanted and still got the same result.

480
00:23:51,240 --> 00:23:52,720
Speaker 2: This is the craziest thing about it all.

481
00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: Everybody's giving that speech all the credit for getting those

482
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Speaker 1: guys that hype to go there, okay, but willing to

483
00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: say that Coach could have went out there before the

484
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,880
Speaker 1: game and set his ABC's and because they got them

485
00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: dogs up front, they would have won that game, probably

486
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 1: by the same amount, probably by the same measure. So

487
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Speaker 1: I just saw that as if I'm a player, I'm

488
00:24:14,119 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 1: not eye rolling Coach, but I'm like, oh, we playing

489
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,600
Speaker 1: that game, okay, Well, when we play the substance teams.

490
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:26,520
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the substance free game speech, because

491
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Speaker 1: I don't think I'm gonna hear it.

492
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Speaker 2: I'm gonna have to hear something else. This my life

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Speaker 2: Here, kicking head back in.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. We got that love. Let's

511
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: talk about stephen A. Smith and Shannon Sharp their interview

512
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,359
Speaker 1: on The stephen A. Smith Show.

513
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Speaker 2: Right, loved it loved it. I really did.

514
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,120
Speaker 1: Respect for both of these guys for holding it down

515
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,640
Speaker 1: at the top. Even if I take issue with any

516
00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:39,560
Speaker 1: of them or any of the things they say, it's

517
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: never with them the person. Frankly, that's not how I'm built.

518
00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: I talk about the act, not the act or but

519
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: let's talk about these acts right here, because there are

520
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,399
Speaker 1: a few things that really stood out to me.

521
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Speaker 2: Now.

522
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,399
Speaker 1: The first thing is when I saw that they had

523
00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: an interview, I was like, oh wow, interesting.

524
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 2: So either A Stephen A.

525
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,119
Speaker 1: Smith went to Joe Butten's podcast and was really doing

526
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:09,000
Speaker 1: the whole Shannon was pushed out of FS one undisputed

527
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 1: it as a trailer a teaser for this interview, or

528
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 1: B which is worse. Oops, I did I said that,

529
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: and because of all of the negative reaction and criticism,

530
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: I need to deal an interview with Shannon real quick

531
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,159
Speaker 1: to let him clear there right whatever. I don't know

532
00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:28,040
Speaker 1: their calendar, I don't know they books. I'm not even

533
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: gonna speculate, but it was one of the other. Either Stephen,

534
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 1: they ain't the homie like that, or that's what kind

535
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: of homie he really is, which ain't the homie I

536
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: like it? Is telling my business like that didn't rushing

537
00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:40,919
Speaker 1: me to have to kind of clear it up or

538
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,000
Speaker 1: be you just said it because I said, yeah, it's

539
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,919
Speaker 1: all good tell people, and then you were like, Yo, Dan,

540
00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: ain't trying to hear it from me, bro, they trying

541
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Speaker 1: to hear it from you.

542
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:51,239
Speaker 2: Go ahead and clear this up, all right.

543
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 1: So then we got into the interview, and I will

544
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:55,040
Speaker 1: say that at the beginning of the interview, I was like,

545
00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:57,120
Speaker 1: I hope this thing don't last like this. I hope

546
00:26:57,160 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: they dropped the shoulders. And I've been there before, everybody's

547
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: been there before. You walk in you're kind of like this,

548
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: And I think it wasn't Steven they I think it

549
00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: was Shannon Moore just nervous at first. You know, Steven

550
00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: A was trying to loosen that thing up from l O.

551
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: He was in there just like you know the joke

552
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,879
Speaker 1: SAMO entertaining talking HBCU, et cetera. And Shannon just wanted

553
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: to be who he is, which is a very humble

554
00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:23,880
Speaker 1: guy giving props to everybody. I mean when I say everybody,

555
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: he named everybody at the Fox Lot, I mean I

556
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 1: heard so many names and respect for him for doing that.

557
00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 2: But at the same time.

558
00:27:31,200 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: That ain't why we hear you know, know your audience,

559
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: like nobody want to hear about Betty and Lot four,

560
00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like really, but hey, that's Shannon.

561
00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:41,720
Speaker 1: He was taking it literally and he was being humble

562
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,600
Speaker 1: about it. But I could tell stephen A was even

563
00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: like bruh, let's get to this though, all right.

564
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 2: So they finally got to it.

565
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:52,120
Speaker 1: They first talked about how Shannon's work relationship wasn't great

566
00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: with Steve with Skip Bayless now and he talked through that,

567
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 1: and I'm glad he did because Skip doesn't talk a lot.

568
00:28:00,280 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 1: And he talked about how you didn't talk a lot

569
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Speaker 1: in the mornings, and that was good to see because

570
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:08,439
Speaker 1: it's consistent with Skip Bayless. Y'all see Skip Bayless, and

571
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: y'all see him whether it's on his podcast with the

572
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,080
Speaker 1: notes and just kind of being literal, kind of like

573
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 1: in this skinnier, more narrow vacuum than you would assume

574
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 1: with a guy who has so many opinions, but that's

575
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Speaker 1: who he is. Kind of reminds me of all my

576
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: friends that are comedians. I know a few famous comedians,

577
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:32,000
Speaker 1: and in their real life, they're all quieter, they're all

578
00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: more introverted than you would expect, like really like you're like,

579
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:37,320
Speaker 1: damn dog, you don't really talk that much.

580
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: Get on stage, yo, baby, you know. And that's kind

581
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 2: of Skip bayless like he likes Ulf not like steven A.

582
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: Stephen A is even more dramatic in that respect, like

583
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Speaker 1: the contrast. But Skiff is to himself, you know, especially

584
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Speaker 1: between breaks. And I'm glad Shannon pointed that out. And

585
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: that's usually the time where you can tell where the

586
00:28:56,000 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: relationship is between breaks. But it depends on personality, you know.

587
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 1: If you're with somebody who can multitask, who can know

588
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: that they can look at one thing and do another,

589
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 1: they can go over their notes real quick.

590
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, hey man, you're good. What

591
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 2: you doing after the show?

592
00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,400
Speaker 1: You're good, you know whatever, And some cats gotta be

593
00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: in their notes like shop, you know, and Skip it's

594
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 1: more like he'll get up, walk off the set, gather himself,

595
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 1: come back on set, do his thing.

596
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Speaker 2: So Shannon broke that down. What else did I hear that? Shannon?

597
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: Like what I tell y'all that Shannon got nothing out

598
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: of them prep meetings, especially after the pandemic.

599
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,760
Speaker 2: He said them prep meetings are just.

600
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: For your boys. Skip Bayless, Skip Bayless had them cats

601
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,120
Speaker 1: up in there four in the morning talking about nothing,

602
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 1: because why we talking about nothing? We're gonna talk about

603
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,400
Speaker 1: what I want to talk about. So Shannon didn't go

604
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,720
Speaker 1: that place, he didn't go that far. But basically he

605
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 1: ain't getting none none of those prep meetings. He needed

606
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:51,920
Speaker 1: to do his prep on his own, right. And it's

607
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,680
Speaker 1: interesting when you're in a dynamic where somebody has the power,

608
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: somebody fought for you to get on there. It's their show,

609
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: let's be real about it, no matter how popular you are,

610
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 1: and you still got to go to the beats of

611
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:04,719
Speaker 1: their drum, right, and you're like I told drunk, like

612
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: I'm playing some beautiful music over here. Check this piano

613
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: out right. And then it's just that cultural force and

614
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 1: pressure that makes you still have to go to that.

615
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 2: Don't you hate that?

616
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,440
Speaker 1: Like you at work, I don't know what your job

617
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 1: title is, but you're the VP, right, And then the

618
00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: president is sitting.

619
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Speaker 2: There like, yeah, I want everyone here, and you're.

620
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: Like, oh, I am so much better if I was

621
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Speaker 1: over there just doing my work in mark cubicle in

622
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Speaker 1: my office. Bro. So that's how that dynamic went what

623
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:38,160
Speaker 1: else did I see? They skipped and it's crazy. They

624
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: talked about how he was forced out. Stephen A teed

625
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: him up to say, I told everyone you was forced out.

626
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Speaker 2: You know the floor is yours. What did you say?

627
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Speaker 1: And stephen A wanted a different answer than what he

628
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 1: got from Shannon Shark.

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Speaker 2: Shannon Sharp wanted to.

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Speaker 1: Highlight in that moment that yeah, to force out occurred,

631
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 1: but he wanted to highlight the fact that he owned

632
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: Club Chase Shape from Hello, and he wanted to highlight

633
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,479
Speaker 1: that owning club shar Shape from Hello was his baby,

634
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: and he wanted to get out. But Stephen they wanted

635
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,959
Speaker 1: a little more about that. They never talked about the

636
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 1: conversation of forced out. They talked about the conversation when

637
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: it was quote unquote over and the conversation of when

638
00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: Shannon talked to Charlie Dixon, who's the head executive over

639
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: there at Fox in terms of programming and content, and

640
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: he talked to him with Skip.

641
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: Bayless and basically said, I spoke my piece.

642
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 1: I told him, hey, the level of disrespect will not

643
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: be tolerated anymore. And then Stephen they was like, so

644
00:31:41,040 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: what happened after day? He said, I spoke my piece

645
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: and left, and I thought that was peculiar. I thought

646
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:49,840
Speaker 1: that was weird because like, you got a moment where

647
00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: you're with Skip, who's disrespecting you, and you got the

648
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: executive the boss there, and you speak your piece, but

649
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,080
Speaker 1: you ain't gonna try and piece this thing back together.

650
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 2: So sometimes you know that okay corral approach.

651
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: You know, I walked in there, I drew down, and

652
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: then I just walked away because he shot already took

653
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 1: my shot, and.

654
00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't know.

655
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: It sounded like he spoke his piece, the meeting was over,

656
00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 1: and I think because they didn't piece it back together,

657
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:20,960
Speaker 1: that's why the relationship really was over and he was

658
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: forced out. I just wonder if he would have spoke

659
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: to Charlie. I know Charlie, like you know, I have

660
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: Charlie's ear. I've talked to Charlie. I've been in his

661
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 1: house many and many of times. You could talk through

662
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 1: those relationships. Now here's the flip side of that. I

663
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: think Shannon also knew that Charlie was closer to Skip

664
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: than him because Charlie came from ESPN what skipped. Charlie

665
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: was a part of the crew with Jamie Horowitz, that

666
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,160
Speaker 1: started undisputed, that started first takes. So maybe Shannon just

667
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: read the tea leaves and was like, Dog, I'm talking,

668
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 1: it's two on one.

669
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 2: I'm talking to them, not him and him.

670
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: So maybe that's why he didn't really stay stick around

671
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: and talk Drew. Maybe he also talked about he was

672
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 1: glad in the moment that he felt the utmost disrespect

673
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: from Skip that he didn't put hands on him. I'm

674
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: glad too. I'm glad you didn't put hands on him,

675
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 1: just simply because that's career suicide. Simply is that. And

676
00:33:19,400 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 1: it ain't that serious what Skip was saying to you. Man,

677
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: it was disrespectful, it was out of turn, it was

678
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: out of line. But at the same time, don't amplify

679
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: because then it gets lost who really was right or wrong.

680
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: So I'm glad he said that, and I wouldn't imagine

681
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: he ever puts some hands on Skip, but I love

682
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: the fact that he did say he refuses to be

683
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 1: a slave to loyalty with Skip, like Skip, you brought

684
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 1: me in here, but you ain't gonna lapdog me.

685
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna puppy dog me.

686
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: All the way through seven years of this like there's

687
00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 1: a certain point we got to readjust.

688
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 2: And I think it's just the same.

689
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: It's the football player in him, and it's just a

690
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: person with tremendous common sense, like you brought me in here,

691
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: but now things are different. Right. That's like your boy saying, hey,

692
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: I want you to play on my football team, and

693
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 1: you're like, really, okay, I'm gonna tell my parents and

694
00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: sign me up. And then you sign up to go

695
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 1: on the football team, and then all of a sudden

696
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: you start balling and coach start giving you the rock more,

697
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: and then you start hating on him to coach and

698
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:15,960
Speaker 1: you start not wanting to give him the ball. Coach like, no,

699
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:16,680
Speaker 1: I called.

700
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 2: The player, give him the ball. Oh he wasn't open.

701
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 2: He wasn't open. Okay, call him play again.

702
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 1: He ain't open now, Yeah, And I think that's what

703
00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: was happening, right, And Shannon saw it like, you know,

704
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,800
Speaker 1: the coach being Charlie Dixon or fs one that Skip

705
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 1: helped build, and then Skip just like all of a sudden,

706
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,279
Speaker 1: the same guy that he wanted on his team, now

707
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 1: he ain't give him the rock like that or he

708
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 1: doing and you know how it goes.

709
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,240
Speaker 2: You could throw somebody a past they can't catch and say.

710
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: I threw it to him.

711
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 2: I threw it to him.

712
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: So all of that made me just see that this

713
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: situation was something that they couldn't fix. Right, And then

714
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:01,799
Speaker 1: he missed that day to tomorrow Hamlin, and he talks

715
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 1: about how he regretted it. He regrets that moment at

716
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 1: least proud moment of his tenure there, and maybe they

717
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: used it against him.

718
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,520
Speaker 2: Let me tell you it wasn't a maybe. It was

719
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 2: a definite. I tell you why.

720
00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 1: Definitely Because if you got Skip saying something about Shannon

721
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,319
Speaker 1: and no one that already Skip had the power to

722
00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 1: get Shannon on the show, that means you got the

723
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,600
Speaker 1: power to at least have their ear in terms of

724
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm good. I think this relationship has soured. Right, you

725
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,560
Speaker 1: can't make me if you can't break me. If you

726
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,440
Speaker 1: didn't make me, they say, but what if he made

727
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: it possible for you to be on that show, he

728
00:35:38,520 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: can make it impossible for you to continue to be

729
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:41,600
Speaker 1: on that show.

730
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 2: And I think Skip flex that muscle.

731
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 1: And then when he flexsed that muscle, then Charlie and

732
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,200
Speaker 1: then was like, okay, let's hear from Shannon. And then

733
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 1: when they heard from Shannon they have to pick. Why

734
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 1: do they have to pick? You go all the way

735
00:35:53,640 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: back to Chris Carter when Nick right, and that's the

736
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: beginning of why whenever they see it ain't going well,

737
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 1: they gonna tell one or the other not to go

738
00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: there right, simple as that. They don't want that on

739
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 1: air chemistry to be flawed like that, because then you

740
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 1: ain't got a product, simple as that. So it was

741
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 1: a final convo that they never really talked through, and

742
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,280
Speaker 1: I guess they never really had, which was crazy to see.

743
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:22,399
Speaker 1: Other than that I like to interview, the only parts

744
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: I really didn't like was it was a lot of

745
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: more that little brother talk. For some reason, it just

746
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,840
Speaker 1: feels like, tell me if I'm wrong or I'm hating,

747
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: or if I'm digging, because I don't want to be

748
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:34,439
Speaker 1: that guy, but.

749
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 2: I'm just like it feels like.

750
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: Skip and Shannon had this relationship where Shannon caught up

751
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 1: the Skips, maybe surpassed Skip, and Skip was just reluctant.

752
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: But in this.

753
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 1: One, whether it's because Shannon's only on the show for

754
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 1: two days a week or just because Steven they put

755
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: it out there early, it's like a big brother, little

756
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: brother Row and I'm looking at the three times Super

757
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 1: Bowl champion.

758
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: I'm looking at a guy who's a Hall of Famer.

759
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: A guy who got that gift to gab who just

760
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,799
Speaker 1: could talk that talk kind of get a little brother.

761
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:08,839
Speaker 2: And there was a lot of I.

762
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: Told you souls and I talked you through that, and

763
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,319
Speaker 1: I told you that from Stephen Ada Shannon.

764
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 2: And I thought it was a little excessive.

765
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: I was like, come on, dog, like, yeah, all right,

766
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 1: Like if I'm telling if I'm telling my story and

767
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: then I'm telling it to the world who hasn't heard

768
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,120
Speaker 1: it yet, and you, my boy, who already heard it.

769
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:26,000
Speaker 1: Last thing I'm trying to hear is I'm going through

770
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:27,799
Speaker 1: it is an escort saying yeah, I told you to

771
00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: do that. I told you to do this. I told

772
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: you that was gonna happen. I told you that was wrong.

773
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 1: I was like, all right, don't we talked about this already.

774
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:37,919
Speaker 1: Let me tell them this. So that was the other thing.

775
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: And salute Jamie Horowitz for bringing all this together because

776
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: it's crazy because Jamie Horowitz undisputed Jamie Horowitz.

777
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 2: First, take Jamie Horowitz Sports Nation, and we.

778
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 1: Have all of that in common, right, that the fact

779
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: that Jamie Horowitz put all that together, So that's dope.

780
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: You can say what you want about embrace, debating and

781
00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,760
Speaker 1: all that. He young gave us a lot of content

782
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 1: and food for thought and fadder for all of us

783
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: sports fans out there. So salute to a guy Jamie Horowitz,

784
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: so we all know and got respect for in terms

785
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:12,840
Speaker 1: of how he approached this game and was a tremendous

786
00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:17,279
Speaker 1: asset to me in my career as well. Other than that,

787
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 1: Shannon got dogs, I got cats, No, I got no cats.

788
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: Salute RECTI pieces Quincy. I was the dude, just a

789
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: dog just popped.

790
00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 2: Up on it. And Shannon said that he's singing because.

791
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: He too busy wrapped up into first take, too busy

792
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:34,160
Speaker 1: wrapped up into steven A's too busy wrapped up into

793
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: them dogs. I said, all right, I'm gonna end this

794
00:38:36,760 --> 00:38:39,799
Speaker 1: interview right there. Loved the interview, Did you guys love

795
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: the interview? And also what was your biggest learn from

796
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: that interview? My biggest learn is that Shannon is going

797
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: to be in a role that he's going to continue

798
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: to dominate, but it's gonna be in a limited fashion

799
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,840
Speaker 1: kind of like I don't know, like rocket is small

800
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:57,360
Speaker 1: or something he like, he gonna be the rocket is

801
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 1: maile Like you'd be like and give it them ball

802
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 1: more and more and more, but he ain't.

803
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 2: But every time you get it, he gonna ball out.

804
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 2: That's what I feel like.

805
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 1: Two days a week's gonna be tremendous. But I don't

806
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 1: think it's gonna be enough for him to get it

807
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 1: all like he used to have it.

808
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: But he's still gonna make a huge impact. The ratings

809
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:13,960
Speaker 2: already suggest that.

810
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: Love you guys, Project Transition dot org. Leave your email,

811
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812
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813
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814
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815
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: my life.

816
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 2: My life, my life, every page of it. Here we go, y'all.

817
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: Let's talk about Dana White, who has now spoke on

818
00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: the matter of transgender athletes in sports, and let's talk

819
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 1: about women, men, transgenders in the UFC. So then the

820
00:39:49,640 --> 00:39:52,239
Speaker 1: White we all know he is President of the UFC,

821
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 1: expressed his opinion on transgender athletes and women's sports. He

822
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:01,160
Speaker 1: has a long history and combat as we know, and

823
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: initially stated crazy enough that women would never compete in

824
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 1: the UFC, which change in twenty thirteen. Damn, it's crazy, right,

825
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: we forget about that. I don't even remember it, but

826
00:40:13,040 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: now I'm like, wow, maybe I wasn't into the UFC

827
00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:17,920
Speaker 1: before then. But at the same time, there was a

828
00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:21,120
Speaker 1: time where we thought that women wouldn't be in the UFC,

829
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: And that's why this is an interesting conversation. Will there

830
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: be a time what transgenders would be in the UFC. Well,

831
00:40:29,239 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: he's talked about his concern with transgender athletes and women's

832
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: sports and use his daughter as an example why he

833
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 1: opposes it. Now, we never hear about the transgender male

834
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 1: being in the sports with the male You know that, right,

835
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,840
Speaker 1: It's always a transgender female that's in the sports with

836
00:40:48,000 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 1: the biological females, the real women, right, So let's talk

837
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:54,759
Speaker 1: about that. So White sees it as a nutty, insane thing,

838
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: as I quote, nutty insane thing happening in the world

839
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,800
Speaker 1: and doesn't want to see biological competing against his daughter

840
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,720
Speaker 1: and I have our He's second what I've already said.

841
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,280
Speaker 2: This issue continues to be a fire starter.

842
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 1: Unnecessarily, I feel, because I think it's an issue where

843
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 1: if you look at a biological mail's pretty evident and obvious,

844
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,799
Speaker 1: as this world has stated since we started sports and

845
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: competitive sports, that it's okay to discriminate based on many factors.

846
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:26,760
Speaker 2: You discriminated based on age.

847
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,680
Speaker 1: As I talked about my football team, they're eight now,

848
00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:31,799
Speaker 1: my son is eight years old. He had to move

849
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 1: up a division. Now he goes against eight and nine

850
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 1: year olds. He's the youngest out there. It's just that simple.

851
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:39,960
Speaker 1: If you're a ten year old, you're not out there

852
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,960
Speaker 1: with them. If you're a seven year old, you're not

853
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 1: out there with them unless you want to move up.

854
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: Good luck to you, right, But the point is we

855
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 1: have designated this off of discrimination rate discriminatory practices.

856
00:41:51,560 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: It's okay age.

857
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:56,080
Speaker 1: We also do it by gender, right, We also do

858
00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 1: it by weight. We also do it by abilities. Like

859
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,719
Speaker 1: it's it's okay. So now we're gonna do it. If

860
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: you don't want to go into the whole, which I

861
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:08,439
Speaker 1: don't understand, Oh well, you know there's not just two genders. Yeah, yeah,

862
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 1: there are, at least in this household, the white the

863
00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 1: household is two genders, boys and girls, and I have

864
00:42:13,520 --> 00:42:16,479
Speaker 1: three girls, that one boy, simple as that. Not trying

865
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: to be controversial, and that's not controversial. But if you

866
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: want to be controversial and say, oh there are more, okay,

867
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 1: that's fine.

868
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 2: We still have designations.

869
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:29,920
Speaker 1: Even if you want transgender, you compete against transgender. Case solved,

870
00:42:30,120 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 1: case dismissed. But if it's not dismissed, then let's just

871
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: welcome everyone to equality. Because equality comes with booze and cheers.

872
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 1: It comes with criticism, right, it comes with borders. Right,

873
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: just like freedom of speech. Someone saying I want equality, Well,

874
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: freedom of speech comes with borders as well. You can't

875
00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: say everything. And equality also comes with some restrictions. I

876
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: hate to tell you it does, right. I want to

877
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,560
Speaker 1: be free, I want to do what I want to do. Yeah,

878
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: but you're still gonna pay your taxes, you know what

879
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: I mean, et cetera. I could bore you to death

880
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,560
Speaker 1: with all the examples. So my question is are you

881
00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: in agreement with Dana White? My question is would you

882
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: be okay with a biological male matching up with your daughters? Lord?

883
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 2: How can we keep the sports industry respectful.

884
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: To the community, transgender community which needs to be respected,

885
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 1: But at the same time, that has to be mutual.

886
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,840
Speaker 1: You gotta respect that hey may have just a natural

887
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: advantage over somebody else. This conversation seemed like it will

888
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 1: never end, unfortunately, but hopefully we'll come to a resolution

889
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 1: that is gonna be respectful and equal, even though we

890
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 1: know that still comes with criticism. All right, y'all, it's

891
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: time for me to go into the Week three no

892
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: cap recap. We got Egos and Buccaneers tonight. Oh, that's

893
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,240
Speaker 1: gonna be a good game. I ain't gonna lie to y'all.

894
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,799
Speaker 1: I am going to take the Buccaneers in this one. Yeah,

895
00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 1: I think that fire that Baker Mayfield don lit is

896
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,600
Speaker 1: gonna burn for a second right now, So I go Buccaneers,

897
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: Rams and Bengals. I'm going with the Rams. Yes, let's

898
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: see if I'm right about that. All right now, we

899
00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,680
Speaker 1: got the Falcons and Lions. We saw the Lions beat

900
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,600
Speaker 1: them twenty to six. Detroit is real scrappy. We already

901
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 1: know Atlanta's really good, improved, but at the same time

902
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:15,760
Speaker 1: got some growing pains.

903
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,120
Speaker 2: To go through. They got shut down.

904
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 1: Man only scored six points and two three in the

905
00:44:21,840 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: second quarter.

906
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,960
Speaker 2: Three at the end of the game, fourth quarter. That

907
00:44:25,160 --> 00:44:25,440
Speaker 2: was it.

908
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: Look for Detroit to be mucking it up for everybody

909
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: this year.

910
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 2: Bill smoked the Commanders.

911
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,000
Speaker 1: Damn Magic went all the way out there, sitting in

912
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: the suite, saw that thirty seven to three beat. Damn.

913
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: We saw Josh Allen have a good game, not a

914
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,280
Speaker 1: great game, but they went out there and steal balled

915
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: out digs. Did this thing got over one hundred. Oh,

916
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,440
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Broncos getting smashed by the Dolphins.

917
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: I'm trying to go through this fast because you can

918
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: go to other sites and go deeper about this. The

919
00:44:51,239 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: Dolphins are insane. I told you when they played Chargers

920
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,600
Speaker 1: Week one. I haven't seen that level of talent athleticism,

921
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 1: especially on the edges.

922
00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:00,879
Speaker 2: That team can run team, you can move well.

923
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: Seventy to twenty makes me feel good about my Chargers actually,

924
00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: because we basically had that game won and then gave

925
00:45:07,239 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: it up at the end. So Dolphins are insane right now.

926
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:12,240
Speaker 1: So nobody wants to see the Dolphins as the Broncos

927
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 1: just I don't even know if the Broncos saw the Dolphins.

928
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,760
Speaker 1: They ain't stoppingim. Seventy to twenty. Ah, we saw.

929
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 2: The Texans beat the Jaguars.

930
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 1: Whoa Jaguars and the Texans have the same record, and

931
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: that means Texans have the edge over them in the divisions.

932
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:31,319
Speaker 1: Slow start to the Jacksonville season right now, we got

933
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,360
Speaker 1: to see what's going on over there, all right, and

934
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,560
Speaker 1: see what they gonna do because they gotta respond because

935
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,920
Speaker 1: the expectations were greater this year, all right.

936
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 2: Coach beat the Ravens.

937
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,440
Speaker 1: That was a little bit of a surprise, especially because

938
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: you know who was starting that quarterback, Gardner misschu. You

939
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: let Gardner Mischiue go out there. Lamar Jackson not having

940
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,120
Speaker 1: his best year just yet, even though he ran that

941
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: ball yesterday, throwing the ball, everything is not clicking, not

942
00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: meshing fully just yet. When they get the wins, you know,

943
00:45:58,360 --> 00:46:02,400
Speaker 1: it's like nineteen points, okay, when we're gonna get this

944
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 1: offense clicking. But it is a new system, so maybe

945
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,240
Speaker 1: it's gonna take time, or maybe that old run dominant

946
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:09,400
Speaker 1: system they had before was better.

947
00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 2: Crazy Chargers squeaked.

948
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:13,160
Speaker 1: Out one got the Vikings twenty eight, twenty four, justin

949
00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: Herbert had maybe a perfect game, one of them to

950
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: a type games now start to say, but it look

951
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,840
Speaker 1: really good. Keenan Allen, My god, what are you doing?

952
00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 1: Eighteen for two fifteen? That's silly? All right? We got

953
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 1: the Patriots beating the Jets. Zach Wilson, you in trouble, brother.

954
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: You're putting up rushing yards as a quarterback. It's gonna

955
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,680
Speaker 1: be a problem, man, man, Zach will I thought it

956
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: was like just that Dallas game. And then I was like, well,

957
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: we're still seeing it. Who are they kicking themselves over there?

958
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: Being on that treadmill at quarterback waiting for Aaron Rodgers

959
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: to get healthy?

960
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 2: All right, Saints and Packers? How did the Packers come

961
00:46:46,840 --> 00:46:47,600
Speaker 2: back on this one?

962
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: What they did? They were now seventeen down down in

963
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:51,759
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and said, let me go win this

964
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 1: eighteen seventeen. Damn gotta play four quarters ball. I thought,

965
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: I feel bad after my dy biddies lost yesterday. That

966
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 1: would hurt. Twenty seven to three. Browns beat the Titans.

967
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:01,680
Speaker 1: Don't know what's going on with the Titans. Why y'all

968
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 1: beat the Chargers? If y'allin't gonna be good, it's crazy.

969
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: Twenty seventy three. Deshaun Watson, he must have watched the

970
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,440
Speaker 1: clip on him. It sounds like he is reconciled with

971
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,480
Speaker 1: his path. Now, that was a really good game from

972
00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: Deshaun Wathsington and started their twenty seven to three.

973
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,280
Speaker 2: Best game he's had since he's been at Cleveland Brown.

974
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: And I'm rooting for the guy to just accept who

975
00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: he is, the good and the bad, and be a baller.

976
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: Seahawks and the Panthers, Oh my god, who Carolina ain't

977
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 1: gonna get a win? Huh?

978
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 2: All right?

979
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: And Seahawks they gonna beat the Seahawks kind of like

980
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: Detroit to me, right, I think they're the same team,

981
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: like maybe an inch off of just that top contending team.

982
00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 2: But still gonna give you a lot. You have to

983
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:45,640
Speaker 2: deal with Geno still rolling, y'all, say what you want,

984
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 2: Geno still roll.

985
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 1: All right. We got the Cardinals. I don't know how,

986
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,840
Speaker 1: but they did. They beat the Cowboys and that was crazy.

987
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 1: You didn't really see crazy statistical numbers either. They just

988
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 1: beat the Cowboys, right, and you can see Tony Poler

989
00:47:59,840 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: had a good game. Dak Prescott didn't have a horrible game,

990
00:48:03,480 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: not a great game, but enough they lost twenty eight sixteen. Ooh,

991
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: Cowboys fan, I ain't gonna beat you up like everybody

992
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 1: else is. But you can't lose those games.

993
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:13,879
Speaker 2: Game.

994
00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,680
Speaker 1: Look at me, coffee Studio. It's pretty Chiefs and Bears

995
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,799
Speaker 1: forty one ten. Yeah, Chiefs real as we already know.

996
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 1: Bears are the Bears. I mean games they lost in

997
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,440
Speaker 1: the road at fourteen or something. O justin Phils. You

998
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: in justin field even have one hundred yards passing, y'all.

999
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: It's ugly. Damn that is bad. I thought Zach Wilson

1000
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,960
Speaker 1: was struggling out here. And you look on the website,

1001
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,799
Speaker 1: so all you see is Taylor Swift. Y'all crazy, boy,

1002
00:48:38,880 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 1: y'all crazy. And now we got the Steelers. We saw

1003
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,239
Speaker 1: that game against the Raiders. I predicted that when I

1004
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 1: actually told my boy and told Mark Quest that, uh,

1005
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:48,839
Speaker 1: they were the Steelers gonna win twenty three twenty.

1006
00:48:48,840 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 2: They end up winning twenty three eighteen. That's when you

1007
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 2: want to go to.

1008
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: Vegas and then you actually go to Vegas and bat

1009
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: and then you don't win that game. It's it turns

1010
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: out to be the Dolphins. Dolphins in the damn Broncos game.

1011
00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 1: You know what happened, there's gonna win by us. So crazy,

1012
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,160
Speaker 1: but I almost nailed that game right there. Forty nine

1013
00:49:04,239 --> 00:49:07,200
Speaker 1: Ers and giants thirty to twelve forty nine ers are

1014
00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,320
Speaker 1: insane in the membrane. We know that as well. Probably

1015
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: our top dog in the NFC, top dog and the

1016
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 1: AFC has to be the Miami Dolphins. So that's my

1017
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:21,640
Speaker 1: note cap recap, just letting you guys know, I still

1018
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 1: love football.

1019
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,879
Speaker 2: And talk it, but y'g have some fun some mother

1020
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 2: sites and then go.

1021
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,200
Speaker 1: Deep into it. Oh my god, they're rushing yards for

1022
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,439
Speaker 1: attempt and all those other good stuff. Good thing, All right, y'all,

1023
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,440
Speaker 1: let's talk about some comments. Let's get into it, manking

1024
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 1: some comments. Yeah, women's tennis funny hearing a Pergola argue

1025
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:41,439
Speaker 1: about fair pay when you consider her billionaire parents and

1026
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:45,399
Speaker 1: how they've allegedly treated their lower paid employees. Additionally, people

1027
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: don't realize how few players on the ATPNWTA don't make

1028
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,520
Speaker 1: money outside of the faces. You know, there's a huge

1029
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,359
Speaker 1: drop off, that's real, which is why tennis forever has

1030
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:57,640
Speaker 1: a match fixing problem. It's the easiest for it to fix.

1031
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: Oh my ancle I have to retire, and a lot

1032
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:03,839
Speaker 1: of the players barely make enough to pay to get

1033
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,279
Speaker 1: to the tournament. What makes women's tennis also peeling is

1034
00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: that it's held at the same time place as the

1035
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,200
Speaker 1: men's event, and it's a different game skill versus power.

1036
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:15,800
Speaker 2: Also, the women wear stylish uniforms that flatter their forms,

1037
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 2: skirts and dressed.

1038
00:50:16,760 --> 00:50:21,520
Speaker 1: Out uniforms occasionally with the mid riff exposed and bare shoulders,

1039
00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:24,120
Speaker 1: but done in a way that is still ultimately stylish

1040
00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:27,440
Speaker 1: over sexy. So as a business you can draw fans

1041
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:29,520
Speaker 1: on two levels. They watch for the skill, but also,

1042
00:50:30,040 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: like many female fans do to male.

1043
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,680
Speaker 2: Athletes, actors, musicians, etc. Can ammire the female form.

1044
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 1: Athletes of both genders are young and fit, and like

1045
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:41,480
Speaker 1: models and actors actresses as foolish to deny the eye

1046
00:50:41,480 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: candy aspect as well.

1047
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 2: Oh stop, I ain't even gonna try to deny it.

1048
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 1: Boy.

1049
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:47,280
Speaker 2: I used to watch women's tennis.

1050
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: When Serena first hit the scene, I was like, goodness,

1051
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,879
Speaker 1: and then sure a pova on, Like I just look

1052
00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 1: at it. One could they find some of them, most

1053
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 1: of them? But then two it's like they like six

1054
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,480
Speaker 1: foot somebody moving. I just like looking at it, like

1055
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: and I like the skill level. To me, it's just

1056
00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:10,160
Speaker 1: like comparable but just stupid, like we have an argument

1057
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,560
Speaker 1: over like like our sex appeal or how you look

1058
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:15,280
Speaker 1: when you're performing.

1059
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:17,799
Speaker 2: I don't care how you look. Yeah you do you

1060
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 2: better And I'm not talking about you got a little

1061
00:51:20,120 --> 00:51:22,000
Speaker 2: glamorous as a woman or man. But demn it.

1062
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,920
Speaker 1: I know dudes, we said rist fans getting fresh. You know,

1063
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 1: got your ponytail cast you said the ponytail hitting the toothbrush,

1064
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:33,760
Speaker 1: getting tight a game like a dude like he ain't

1065
00:51:34,120 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 1: he ain't losing nothing like he ain't feline. He's just

1066
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: trying to look right. What if d I say, look good,

1067
00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,560
Speaker 1: feel good, play good, pay good? Stop it? Man. I

1068
00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 1: hate when people.

1069
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,799
Speaker 2: Got because well I'm not supposed to look at him?

1070
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:46,919
Speaker 2: What you looking at? Then?

1071
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,839
Speaker 1: How you watching a match and ain't watching how good

1072
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: they look or ugly they look about. I can tell

1073
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:54,040
Speaker 1: a dude athletic and be like, oh that ain't a

1074
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:56,480
Speaker 1: good looking dude, but whatever, go ahead and hit him like,

1075
00:51:56,520 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: oh that's a mean face I look at I look

1076
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 1: at the dog with his old moves.

1077
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,680
Speaker 2: I mean, stop, stop, just stop faking it all right.

1078
00:52:03,719 --> 00:52:04,960
Speaker 2: Women in sports are so entitled.

1079
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Speaker 1: Oh, with respect to tennis, they play best at three sets,

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00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:08,280
Speaker 1: that's fewer.

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00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:10,240
Speaker 2: Their matches last on average less.

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00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:12,359
Speaker 1: Than an hour in Grand Slams, while men's matches last

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00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,319
Speaker 1: about two and a half hours, it could last about

1084
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:18,800
Speaker 1: four hours. Women put on an inferior product with lesser strength, speed, quality, fans, revenue,

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00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: and yet they earn as much as more than men.

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00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 2: This happens in multiple sports because of political correctness.

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00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,879
Speaker 1: Can't argue that. Look, I'm a person that you eat

1088
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: with you you kill, and they don't kill the same amount,

1089
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 1: But I don't think they eat the same amount as well.

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00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 1: Five hundred level, thousand level tennis tournaments. They do not

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00:52:37,920 --> 00:52:39,880
Speaker 1: get paid the same as the men. Just the glam Slam,

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00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: the Grand Slams, glam Slams. Well when the Denny's just

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00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:45,759
Speaker 1: the Grand Slams. So I hear what you're saying, and

1094
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,040
Speaker 1: that's not right. When it's like that, I hate that too.

1095
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,520
Speaker 1: But they also don't get paid the same as the men.

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00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: Just stop watching them big tournaments. You'll tell you should

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00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:56,800
Speaker 1: get paid what you earn and not what you should

1098
00:52:56,960 --> 00:52:59,200
Speaker 1: Emissions and ratings should what you get paid. If ratings

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00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: in the mission show win are generating what men are men,

1100
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 1: they should be paid equally. Well, you're right, and i'm witch.

1101
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: We are both captain obvious on that one Whitlock versus Dion.

1102
00:53:10,239 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: I remember after Kobe scored sixty points in his last game,

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00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:14,799
Speaker 1: Jason Whitlock said the next day, Kobe Bryant is the

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00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: most fraudulent celebrity superstar athlete we have ever seen.

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00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:20,439
Speaker 2: Woodlock has been a bonafide hater for a long long time.

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00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't surprise me. Okay, he's a bonafied hater. Look

1107
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: I did.

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00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 2: Look, Kobe's last game was even interesting to me.

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00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: I'm not a hater. I love Kobe. I was like,

1110
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: damn it, how many shots he takes to get sixty

1111
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:35,640
Speaker 1: on the last game. But everybody's like, a right, no,

1112
00:53:35,640 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: never matter. I was like, well, it doesn't matter unless

1113
00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,320
Speaker 1: that game matter. And he did take sixty shots to

1114
00:53:40,320 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: get sixty points. But hey, that's how you're gonna go

1115
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: out because of Kobe. Respect. Woodlock's behavior is entirely inappropriate.

1116
00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,760
Speaker 1: Here we Go, coach has consistently been a source of empowerment,

1117
00:53:48,760 --> 00:53:51,360
Speaker 1: a fatherly figure, an exceptional leader, and a role model

1118
00:53:51,360 --> 00:53:53,839
Speaker 1: to everyone. It's worth noting that Whitlock didn't raise any

1119
00:53:53,840 --> 00:53:56,319
Speaker 1: concerns with Brett Farr, who was on the Blaze with

1120
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 1: Sapp and others about far As allegedly involved in financial miscond.

1121
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm done with white lock. I'm not a fan of

1122
00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: the whole white lock stuff. Like if Winlock is not

1123
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: as black ass is, we're gonna do the tos steven A.

1124
00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:13,760
Speaker 1: Smith thing again. That's all right, But he ain't white.

1125
00:54:13,840 --> 00:54:16,560
Speaker 1: He ain't gonna ever be white, no matter how he sounds, asks,

1126
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:18,399
Speaker 1: et cetera. I know what you're saying, though, so I'm

1127
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: not gonna go down the rabbit hole. Here's the thing

1128
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 1: I agree with you with. He gotta come at Brett

1129
00:54:23,719 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 1: Farr like, ain't no way I'm doing the show, and

1130
00:54:25,719 --> 00:54:27,400
Speaker 1: I ain't doing a show with somebody who is in

1131
00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:31,680
Speaker 1: the public eye news scandal and then they gonna come

1132
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:34,640
Speaker 1: on the show and keep game criticize somebody else.

1133
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:38,000
Speaker 2: I'm like, Okay, yeah, you're right, you're right. How about

1134
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: this about you? We just at least I don't know

1135
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,040
Speaker 2: if he has, Please tell me.

1136
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,959
Speaker 1: He has at least turn to mic once that Brett

1137
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: Farr's like address that.

1138
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: I don't know I would do that.

1139
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 1: But that's in part why I don't like guests, because

1140
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: you start having to let them win.

1141
00:54:53,400 --> 00:54:55,560
Speaker 2: But like, gotta let him win. Got it.

1142
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: You got Brett Farve on it. You can't make him lose,

1143
00:54:58,360 --> 00:55:00,439
Speaker 1: so you can't ask him the questions. That's a raw

1144
00:55:00,719 --> 00:55:02,399
Speaker 1: part of the reason, part of the reason I'm gonna

1145
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: have guests going forward. We're gonna lay this thing out

1146
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 1: and we're gonna layer this. But I want you to

1147
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 1: hear me first. I want you to know who I am,

1148
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:09,719
Speaker 1: so when somebody come on here, they already know what

1149
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: they're stepping into. If somebody come on my show and

1150
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 1: they are in some trouble, we talking about the trouble first,

1151
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: come on dog. Everybody trying to see you throw no

1152
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,319
Speaker 1: rocks out, no glasshouse. If he's a black person who's

1153
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,520
Speaker 1: getting recognized for success, particularly if they are helping other

1154
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: people achieve success with lock, is gonna have something negatives

1155
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: say is to run a narrative of my boy I do.

1156
00:55:30,920 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: I work with him.

1157
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 1: He's a great listener, and what I like most about

1158
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: him is he is himself. He's going to say what

1159
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,400
Speaker 1: he wants to say. He's gonna listen, though it's tough

1160
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: the whole. He always comes harder on black people because

1161
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,480
Speaker 1: we talk. Let's be real, if you're talking sports, you're

1162
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 1: talking to sports basketball and football. One is fifty five

1163
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 1: percent black and seventy percent of minority, and the other

1164
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,879
Speaker 1: one this is what seventy percent black in eighty some night,

1165
00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 1: eighty some percimilority. You talk basketball, football, you don't talk

1166
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,640
Speaker 1: about the black people. It's just simple as that. But

1167
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:06,479
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying.

1168
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: It's like, it does feel highlighted, it does feel amplified.

1169
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:11,719
Speaker 2: So I hear Cam and Mace.

1170
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,839
Speaker 1: Considering Cam and Mace have limited knowledge of sports, especially Mace,

1171
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: OJ is much needed for this show. It is what

1172
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:19,719
Speaker 1: it is, is the best show around. It is a

1173
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:21,880
Speaker 1: funny show. I'll give it that. That is funny. I

1174
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,799
Speaker 1: got to check out more OJ though. Mason Cameron give

1175
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 1: OJ the platform the show is football knowledge. They make

1176
00:56:26,920 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: OJ seem more human and relatable, gives a younger generation

1177
00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:32,920
Speaker 1: something to know OJ by other than his trial. I

1178
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 1: love that OJ has the opportunity to write his name

1179
00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:37,120
Speaker 1: back into the football ledger as a legend.

1180
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 2: That is dope.

1181
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: One of my favorite comments ever, maybe my favorite ever.

1182
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: Rewrite OJ right, Like, let OJ. He got out, then

1183
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,760
Speaker 1: he went back in for something else that we were like, really,

1184
00:56:48,600 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: so let him write his own name.

1185
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 2: I really believe in second chances.

1186
00:56:51,920 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: I really look, if you found not guilty, it is

1187
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,239
Speaker 1: because I didn't pay attention to the whole trial.

1188
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: So I'm not gonna sit here and saying, HOI dre.

1189
00:56:59,239 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: How did you doubt it? Shut up? Did you watch

1190
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: all of it? No, it's shut up, NFL prop bet.

1191
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,360
Speaker 1: I got a little bit of it. Somebody want that

1192
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,879
Speaker 1: propa bet? All right, so somebody said I got some.

1193
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 2: Of that dope? All right?

1194
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 1: You know we finished every show, we finish it with

1195
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 1: a wily is yeah. Ah, today's why there isn't I'm

1196
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 1: gonna have to say it like he said it too.

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00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: Even the sign goes down, where is that from? I

1198
00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: ain't gonna put his name out there? Even the sun

1199
00:57:26,360 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: goes down. Heroes eventually die. Horoscopes often lied, and sometimes

1200
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: why nothing is for show? Nothing is forever? Dang, I

1201
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:40,800
Speaker 1: could have nailed it. It's Andre three thousand, y'all. Even

1202
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: the sun goes down, y'all, it's okay, Like, it's okay

1203
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: to take that all. It's okay. It's okay to not

1204
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: feel your best. It's okay because we're gonna work on

1205
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: getting right back up. Because the sun gonna rise. You know,

1206
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: the sun gonna rise, so even the sun goes down,

1207
00:57:56,360 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: It's okay. I I'm so competitive that I can accept

1208
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:08,120
Speaker 1: a loss and defeat pretty fast because I know I'm

1209
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: coming back. I think sometimes I see people who are

1210
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 1: almost in production of showing their emotions of their loss.

1211
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:17,440
Speaker 1: You know, my son is he's eight and he's already

1212
00:58:17,480 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: doing it. He's like, really down and that I just

1213
00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 1: hate losing. I was like, I know, but you love

1214
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 1: that winning, don't you right? And he's like yeah, I said,

1215
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:26,760
Speaker 1: let's get back to the winning and let's have a

1216
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 1: winning attitude to get back to that winning, because you gotta.

1217
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 2: Fake it till you make it.

1218
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,160
Speaker 1: We ain't. We just lost. We can't be sitting there

1219
00:58:32,200 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: in the losing attitude. We can't be sitting there beat

1220
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 1: up by the losing. You know, I understand you ain't

1221
00:58:36,760 --> 00:58:38,360
Speaker 1: feeling your best because I don't feel my best. I

1222
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,560
Speaker 1: ain't have a good night's sleep last night, tell you truth.

1223
00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 1: Just because I was like, how did they beat us?

1224
00:58:43,080 --> 00:58:46,360
Speaker 1: I was like, well, one, they were better, let me say, two,

1225
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: they were older. Three they were faster. I was like,

1226
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: I keep it real. But I was like, but we

1227
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: could still beat them. I was like, we lost by

1228
00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 1: three points with no extra points, and we could beat them.

1229
00:58:58,160 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: They ain't beat us. We beat ourselves and they beat

1230
00:59:00,840 --> 00:59:04,040
Speaker 1: the sun. There's a double whamming. So the point is, man,

1231
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: look when you're going through it, it's okay.

1232
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: Just know that you're gonna rise again.

1233
00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:09,320
Speaker 1: Man.

1234
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:10,080
Speaker 2: That's the thing.

1235
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:14,480
Speaker 1: It becomes episodic if people forget that down means up,

1236
00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: Like all right, you a ball, man, I'm down. Boom,

1237
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,920
Speaker 1: I'm up. That's what the ball doesn't bounces up. So

1238
00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:23,680
Speaker 1: whatever you think is down there, just know that it's

1239
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: gonna come up here. Let's go, as the kids always say,

1240
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 1: let's go. Even the sun goes down. Man, when that

1241
00:59:31,400 --> 00:59:35,840
Speaker 1: hit me, I was like the brightest lightness world, right,

1242
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,920
Speaker 1: the sun. You can't even stare at it because it's

1243
00:59:38,920 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: too bright. Even that goes down, even that has to

1244
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: take a little time off, take a little break, take

1245
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: a l go somewhere else and shine.

1246
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 2: Right, So maybe sometimes.

1247
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,280
Speaker 1: We gotta look at it like that, like you know

1248
00:59:52,280 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: how the sun is really always shining. It's just what

1249
00:59:54,440 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: part of the world you're in, what part, what phase,

1250
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 1: what perspective are you looking at things? Because maybe it

1251
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,720
Speaker 1: went down to you you lost something, right, here, but

1252
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,240
Speaker 1: it's shining somewhere else.

1253
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 2: I've noticed that sometimes when I'm going through issues and

1254
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,160
Speaker 2: growing up. Financially, we ain't have much, but we.

1255
01:00:12,160 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: Had each ova. So the sun was down in our

1256
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: money column, but it was up and bright in terms

1257
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: of the togetherness and the family and the connective tissue

1258
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 1: we had as a family life. Yeah, I wish, I

1259
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: like my family's still tight, but we ain't as tight

1260
01:00:29,040 --> 01:00:31,240
Speaker 1: because we all got to live. We're all grown, and

1261
01:00:31,320 --> 01:00:33,000
Speaker 1: I see you when I see you and I ain't

1262
01:00:33,040 --> 01:00:35,880
Speaker 1: seen you. It's one of those situations. So I'm trying

1263
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 1: to tighten the boats on that. But just remember, man,

1264
01:00:38,120 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 1: it's bright somewhere in your life. It's bright somewhere in

1265
01:00:41,000 --> 01:00:43,760
Speaker 1: this world. But even the sun goes down.

1266
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 2: Here Rose let me start all right, y'all gotta do it.

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Speaker 1: For more to it, check the show notes for all

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01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: the information on our topics today today.

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Speaker 2: Want to keep the conversation going.

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Speaker 1: Let's talk to find me on all socials at Marcel's

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01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,160
Speaker 1: Wiley More too. It's a production of Damn Patrick Production

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01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: That Dude Entertainer in the Workhouse Media show is executive

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01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: produced by Dan Patrick.

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01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: Marcello's Wally Paul Anderson and Nick Panella.

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01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:09,400
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01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,000
Speaker 1: Membership to Wiley's World on YouTube.

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Speaker 2: Keep it coming because there's more coming from. More to it.

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Speaker 2: Talk to y'all, Hellison