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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us as we get

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Speaker 2: rolling here. A lot to discuss during the course of

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Speaker 2: the show. Let me let you know in the third

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Speaker 2: hour we'll be joined by Senator Ran Paul of Kentucky

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Speaker 2: and Congressman Jim Jordan from Ohio.

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Speaker 3: In the third hour, no guests.

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Speaker 2: In the first couple of hours, inflation comes in hotter

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Speaker 2: than expected Wall Street dropping significantly on the news inflation

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Speaker 2: three point five percent.

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Speaker 3: But why does that matter?

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Speaker 2: The odds of inflation coming down looking worse as we

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Speaker 2: get closer to the election, but also the odds of

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Speaker 2: any reduction in the interest rates that are out there

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Speaker 2: had been priced in as likely to happen in June.

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Speaker 2: Now it's looking like that may happen in September. That

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Speaker 2: means if you have a mortgage, That means if you

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Speaker 2: are borrowing money, it is unlikely to get substantially cheaper

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Speaker 2: before the election gets here. And also it raises questions

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Speaker 2: about whether or not the Fed's war against inflation is

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Speaker 2: actually working. That's particularly cases we hit six month highs

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Speaker 2: in the price of gas.

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Speaker 3: As many of you have noticed.

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Speaker 2: Big ruling from the Arizona Supreme Court on abortion.

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Speaker 3: We will discuss that.

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Speaker 2: There's the Ashley Biden diary, which should be a big

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Speaker 2: story and is not getting a lot of discussion. We

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Speaker 2: will dive into that as well. But Buck, I wanted

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Speaker 2: to start with what I think is an amazing article

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Speaker 2: that I would encourage all of you to go read.

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Speaker 2: It's by a guy from inside of NPR basically assessing

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Speaker 2: all of the journalistic failings of National Public Radio. Maybe

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Speaker 2: some of you during the course of your lives or

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Speaker 2: maybe even now occasionally we will flip over to NPR

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Speaker 2: to hear what they are talking about. Basically, the story

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Speaker 2: is that inpr's brain broke, as many of you know,

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Speaker 2: with the election of Donald Trump in twenty sixteen, but

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Speaker 2: by twenty twenty, they were actively making decisions about how

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Speaker 2: to cover stories and what stories they should cover based

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Speaker 2: on how it impacted the likely success or failure of

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Speaker 2: Joe Biden's presidential election. In twenty twenty, in particular with

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Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden laptop, which NPR famously derided as a

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Speaker 2: non story. I believe it is seventy six of the

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Speaker 2: editorial individuals inside of the Washington DC NPR office were

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Speaker 2: all Democrats. There was not one single Republican. And Buck,

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Speaker 2: this ties in with an argument that I'd made for

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Speaker 2: some time, which is, we don't really have media anymore.

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Speaker 2: We have fan media, and by that I mean whatever

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Speaker 2: audience you serve, and we try to be conscious of

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Speaker 2: this by sometimes even somewhat regularly telling you things that

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Speaker 2: you need to hear. Where basically everybody's a fan The

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Speaker 2: Washington Post, the New York Times, NPR, all of them

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Speaker 2: are left wing fan sites, and therefore they are not

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Speaker 2: in the business of actually determining truth from fiction. But

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Speaker 2: you can go read this article, and I would encourage

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Speaker 2: all of you to read it, maybe share it. Maybe

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Speaker 2: you got friends and family out there that listen to

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Speaker 2: NPR and trust them as unique arbiters of truth in

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Speaker 2: this current media ecosystem. I think it's important for everybody

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Speaker 2: to read. I know you read it. Buck, What was

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Speaker 2: your big takeaway, as it pertains to basically an insider

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Speaker 2: a fair and balanced news organization. It gives us additional detail,

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Speaker 2: but the overall thesis is something that we've been aware

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Speaker 2: of for I think for many years now. NPR specifically,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you would think given its previous heritage as

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this kind of tune.

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Speaker 4: You know, there was an there was a vibe, a

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Speaker 4: sensibility at NPR for people, and now it has turned

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Speaker 4: into wokeness, the same kind of wokeness.

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Speaker 3: You would get anywhere else, and it's very troubling.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I actually tie this in to what we

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Speaker 4: And just understand, if you call a transman a man

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Speaker 4: Rowling, the author of the Harry Potter books, is completely

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Speaker 4: opposed to this outrage by this and understands that this

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Speaker 4: Washington Post reports on this, like, hmm, difficult questions.

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Speaker 3: It's actually not a difficult question.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, hurt feelings cannot result in imprisonment or else you

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Speaker 3: NPR to the to the NPR article here, what was it?

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Speaker 2: Eighty seven mater is yea concerned by the lack of

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Speaker 3: Quoting for this article. This is the guy who wrote it.

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Speaker 2: I looked at voter registration for our newsroom in DC,

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Speaker 2: found eighty seven registered Democrats working in editorial positions and

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Speaker 2: This is posted at clayonbuck dot com. You can go

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Speaker 2: read it. But my goodness, this is what we've talked about.

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Speaker 4: That they can't even allow for a token Republican in

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Speaker 4: even somebody who would be considered a moderate you cannot

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Speaker 4: question because the orthodoxy of the left, the Democrat party

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Speaker 4: similar sentiment. Why is it that all at the same

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Speaker 4: in Europe, Australia, they all adopt this gender ideology, trans

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Speaker 4: of a global ideological left at work here. And when

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Speaker 4: you see what's going on NPR Clay, they can't allow

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Speaker 2: It's particularly interesting here's another quote from that article. On

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Speaker 2: It was met with profound indifference. And I think this

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Speaker 2: how many sports media organizations criticize that position? One OutKick?

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Speaker 2: How is it possible? This is really I can't get

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Speaker 2: Now, yeah, and and what is crazy is in that

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Speaker 4: And it used to be that they would argue that

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Speaker 4: Now the folk leftist lunatics who infiltrated through the HR

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Speaker 4: I think it's worth reminding people. And then historically authoritarian

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Speaker 4: But they can, through fear of people losing their jobs

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's any doubt at all about that.

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Speaker 2: I think it's a fun parlor game. Lebron James about

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Speaker 2: to turn forty buck. How many points do you think

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Speaker 4: I'm inside of I mean, I think Dave Chappelle even

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: Let's look at this situation in Arizona now, and just

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Speaker 3: The law is Arizona chief statehood by the way in

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Speaker 4: And there also are state legislators who could do something

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Speaker 3: Man? Is this a concern or will this be dealt with?

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Speaker 2: There isn't a Senate race on the ballot. There isn't

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Speaker 2: I also have been expecting that Trump is going to

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Speaker 3: I think that's what they want to run on.

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Speaker 2: I feel like that even the Supreme Court decision, which

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Speaker 2: Forever just acount the vote, which obviously doesn't help in

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Speaker 2: And we know in twenty twenty, Fox News made the

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Speaker 4: Want to call in and react from Arizona, I'm certainly

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Speaker 4: David Axelrod. David Axelrod is saying that this alone could

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Speaker 6: This could not be more of a disaster for the

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Speaker 6: So I think what this does is it puts a

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Speaker 4: But I think he's overstating it a bit, which is

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Speaker 4: not surprising. He's speaking to a Democrat audience. But there's

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Speaker 4: a there's like New York Times Siena polling for example

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Speaker 4: from let me see in October. So it's a little

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Speaker 4: older now, but fifty nine percent of Arizona in registered

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Speaker 4: voters that abortion should mostly or always be legal. Thirty

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Speaker 4: four percent said it should mostly or always be illegal.

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Speaker 4: Fox News polling oh from March, so last month thirty

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Speaker 4: nine percent of Arizona Vo voter said abortion would be

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Speaker 4: extremely important in deciding their vote for president, thirty two

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Speaker 4: percent saying it would be very important. So and voters

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Speaker 4: who supported Biden in twenty twenty were nearly twice as

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Speaker 4: likely to say the issue would be extremely important fifty

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Speaker 4: one to twenty seven percent. Okay, that's not a surprise.

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Speaker 4: That's all Washington Post compiling these polls. Look, you know

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Speaker 4: this is I didn't know. I'll just be honest. I

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Speaker 4: didn't know that this was a thing that could happen,

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Speaker 4: that there was a pre safe that most people did.

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Speaker 3: To be fair, I don't. I've never heard I mean,

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Speaker 3: I've never heard of this before. So yeah, but I.

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Speaker 4: Suppose the removal of the federal umbrella of a fake

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Speaker 4: abortion rights that are, you know, the fake constitutional right

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Speaker 4: of abortion has created some ripple effects like this that

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Speaker 4: are unforeseen.

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Speaker 3: I think it's I think it's an issue.

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a challenge for Kerry

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Speaker 4: Lake and for anybody who is hoping Donald Trump wins

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Speaker 4: this election in Arizona, just because what is true and

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Speaker 4: and what will be portrayed are obviously not the same thing. Right,

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Speaker 4: This is not going to end abortion in the state

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Speaker 4: of Arizona for any length of time. It probably won't

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Speaker 4: even be enforced.

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Speaker 3: But it's a.

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Speaker 4: Jolt, a jolt of abortion panic for people who want

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Speaker 4: some abortion to be legal in that state, and that

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Speaker 4: could be very difficult for Republicans.

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Speaker 3: To maneuver around, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: And again, I think it's important for you to understand

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Speaker 2: what people are saying. You played, David Axelrod. Let me

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Speaker 2: hit a couple more of these. Here's Joy Reid, who

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Speaker 2: obviously on MSNBC is crazy, but her audience laps this up.

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Speaker 2: This is her dream. She really wants abortion not to

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Speaker 2: be legal because she wants to say it's the Handmaid's Tale,

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Speaker 2: because politically it's beneficial to Democrats to make this argument.

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Speaker 3: Listen to cut six.

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Speaker 7: You have six members of the Supreme Quota say you no, women,

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Speaker 7: you don't have that right. They've also signaled they're coming

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Speaker 7: form birth control. They want that to be illegal. They

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Speaker 7: think that's an abortiveation. They think IUDs are human pesticide

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Speaker 7: into bortivation. I'm not sure what else they have to

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Speaker 7: do for Americans to understand the endgame is the Handmaid's Tale.

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Speaker 3: Women wake up.

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Speaker 7: When a war is being waged upon you, You are

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Speaker 7: at war, whether you want to be or not. And

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Speaker 7: the Republican Party has openly declared war on women.

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Speaker 3: Wake up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they're declaring war on women. This is their argument.

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Speaker 2: Listen to CNN Margaret Hoover. There's no way now Trump

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Speaker 2: can win in Arizona. Listen to what they're saying.

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Speaker 8: I have spoken to state electeds in the last hour,

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Speaker 8: Republicans state electeds, and they believe that this will absolutely

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Speaker 8: flip the legislature. This will absolutely impact the presidential election.

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Speaker 8: This has Republicans now on their back feet. There is

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Speaker 8: no way Donald Trump is going to carry the state.

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Speaker 3: Well, Trump has said put it to the states. Well,

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Speaker 3: then put it to the states.

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Speaker 8: That's what you get in Arizona. Well, how is it going.

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Speaker 8: It's not going to go so well for him in Arizona.

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Speaker 8: And truly this is as they said, sixty five percent

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Speaker 8: of Arizonas are in favor of this.

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Speaker 5: I mean, this is the most.

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Speaker 8: Dragcony in lawn. Now we have in all the states

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Speaker 8: and all the books, no exceptions for rape, no exceptions

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Speaker 8: for incests. Only in the case of the death of

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Speaker 8: the mother. I mean, this is truly I mean, this

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Speaker 8: is a Civil War era, nineteenth century law now on

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Speaker 8: the books in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 4: So the optics of this are the optics of this

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Speaker 4: are challenging. I think that is definitely the case here.

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Speaker 4: Whatever one thinks about whether this is even the moral

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Speaker 4: and ethical position, I'm just saying the political optics of

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Speaker 4: bringing back a law from eighteen sixty four and it

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Speaker 4: being even possible that that's the law of the state

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Speaker 4: of Arizona on this issue at a time of such

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Speaker 4: high contention around it, it's a challenging field to maneuver

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Speaker 4: through now. And we'll talk to Carry Lake about this

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Speaker 4: next week. But she came out and said she doesn't

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Speaker 4: agree with the Republican majority Supreme Court decision in that

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Speaker 4: state of Arizona over this because it's a massive mess

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Speaker 4: for her and just to think about it electorally, if

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Speaker 4: abortion is on the ballot literally in Arizona, what you

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Speaker 4: would need is because I think you're right, buck Well,

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Speaker 4: let's say this thing's going to pass sixty in Arizona.

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Speaker 3: I think it would. I think it's fifty eight.

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Speaker 2: Forty two, sixty forty fifty five to forty five double

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Speaker 2: digit win for this referendum.

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Speaker 3: Whatever they put in place.

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Speaker 2: You would need a lot of people to show up

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Speaker 2: and vote for this this referendum who also would then

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Speaker 2: vote for Trump as well. What this is going to

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Speaker 2: do is jen up turnout in Republican sorry, Democrat circles

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Speaker 2: with younger women who are going to come out as

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Speaker 2: single issue voters.

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Speaker 3: They don't care about inflation, which we need to talk about.

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Speaker 2: They don't care about the border anywhere near a crime,

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Speaker 2: They don't care about any of those issues anywhere as

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Speaker 2: much as they do abortion. Because the joy reads of

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Speaker 2: the world are convincing them that this is going to

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Speaker 2: be like the Handmaid's Tale. It's a big story and

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Speaker 2: we need to to make sure we're on top of

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Speaker 2: it when we come back. Trump is in Atlanta. He

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Speaker 2: just went into a Chick fil A. If you need

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Speaker 2: a laugh, I think you're going to get a laugh

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Speaker 2: from the way that Trump describes Chick fil A. Just

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Speaker 2: trust me, it's my favorite fast food restaurant. It's probably

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Speaker 2: the best. Trump's sense of humor still firing on all cylinders.

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Speaker 2: We will hit you with that when we come back,

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Speaker 1: Learn and Last Weekdays with Clay, Travis and buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in hour number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. As we

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Speaker 2: are rolling through the Wednesday edition of the program. We've

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Speaker 2: been talking about inflation running hotter than expected, the Arizona

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Speaker 2: abortion ruling, NPR's lack of fairness in its basic duty

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Speaker 2: to provide journalism. We need to talk about the Ashley

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Speaker 2: Biden diary coming up here in a bit. But first,

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Speaker 2: Senator Ran Paul the Great State of Kentucky joins us.

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Speaker 2: Now we're going to get into really serious questions, but

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Speaker 2: probably the biggest story in the state of Kentucky right now.

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Speaker 3: And I bet you know where I'm going.

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Speaker 2: Senator Paul John Calipari, longtime University of Kentucky basketball coach.

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Speaker 3: No longer there.

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Speaker 2: I believe you've managed to get elected in Kentucky despite

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Speaker 2: being a duke guy.

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Speaker 3: You can correct me if I'm wrong on that, but.

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Speaker 9: Bring that up now. They're going to probably want to

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Speaker 9: impeach me. They know I went to Duke. My goodness,

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Speaker 9: you should have never brought that up.

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Speaker 2: Big Christian Latner fan Kentucky senate to Senator Ram Paul

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Speaker 2: so John calla Perry out. Do you have any reactions?

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Speaker 2: I know you're a basketball fan that I'm not even kidding.

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Speaker 2: This is by far the biggest story in your state,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And they're talking about I think trying to hire Scott

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Speaker 2: Drew from Baylor. And I believe your dad has a

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Speaker 2: good connection with Baylor, if I'm not mistaken. What's your

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Speaker 9: And no, that's actually me. I went to Baylor undergrad.

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Speaker 3: Oh there you go.

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Speaker 9: Yes, they're a big fan of the banner bearers. But

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Speaker 9: you know, I would like caller Perry. And you know,

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Speaker 9: I think sometimes the fans at some of these schools

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Speaker 9: we get kind of greedy. I's like, when's the last

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Speaker 9: time we had a national championship? Damn, it's been three

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Speaker 9: or four years since we won the national championship. So

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Speaker 9: sometimes it's that, and sometimes it may be you know,

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Speaker 9: I don't follow it close enough to say, oh, he

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Speaker 9: should have called this player, he should have guarded this player.

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Speaker 9: This way or run this offense, you know. So I

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Speaker 9: But in my relations with Calm Berry, I thought they

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Speaker 4: Senator Paul, thanks for being here. I have a different

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Speaker 4: question for you, a different topic. I mean, you've claimed

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Speaker 4: that there's a smoking gun tying Fauci and NIH research

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Speaker 4: dishonest about this over a long period of time. What

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Speaker 9: About two years ago, a whistleblower revealed that the Wuhan

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Speaker 9: American taxpayer dollars to create a virus, a coronavirus that

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Speaker 9: this was asked of DARPA. DARPA didn't give them the money,

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Speaker 9: but it was also presented to fifteen different agencies, and

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Speaker 9: nobody from DARPA. Nobody from the fifteen agencies, and the

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Speaker 9: agencies included Anthony Faucisaid as well as Anih. They all

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Speaker 9: that the lab and Wuhan wanted to work on creating

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Speaker 9: a virus that, it turns out looks very scarily similar

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Speaker 9: to what COVID nineteen was. So in January of twenty twenty,

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Speaker 9: should have been going, holy cow, the virus looked just

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Speaker 9: like what the Wuhan Institute was asking us to help

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Speaker 9: gone off saying, by golly, they did it. They actually

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Speaker 9: we would know none of this but for a brave

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Speaker 9: lieutenant colonel at DARPA who became a whistle blower told

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Speaker 9: his superiors, told us a chain of command and then

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Speaker 9: revealed it to an Inspector general that this grant existed,

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Speaker 9: that Wuhan was searching to create this kind of a

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Speaker 9: virus two years before. Otherwise, the government has completely covered

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Speaker 9: this up, including Anthony Fauci, who lied in committees that

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Speaker 9: he had never heard of this proposal. We now have

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Speaker 9: evidence that not only was his agency briefed about this proposal,

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Speaker 9: but we have evidence that his agency was going to

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Speaker 9: provide a lab, the Rocky Mountain Lab, which is part

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Speaker 9: of NAIAID Fauci's organization at ATIH, that they were going

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Speaker 9: to do part of the research to create this virus.

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Speaker 9: Now they disappear from the proposal later on, but we

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Speaker 9: now know that Anthony Fauci did have information about this,

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Speaker 9: and he hasn't been on us with the public.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I one hundred percent agree with everything you just said.

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Speaker 2: I know Buck does too. I read your book. I

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Speaker 2: think you have been better than any politician on a

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Speaker 2: federal level at all relating to COVID. I think you're

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Speaker 2: right that Anthony Fauci lied under oath. I think he

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Speaker 2: lied under oath multiple times. Is there ever going to

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Speaker 2: be any consequences for Anthony Fauci for the lies that

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Speaker 2: he told. What should happen, what can happen? Is anything

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Speaker 2: ever going to happen to him for lying to Congress?

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Speaker 9: You know, every week I returned from Washington, I knock

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Speaker 9: on my home door. My wife greets me in. Instead

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Speaker 9: of giving me a kiss or a hoax, he says,

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Speaker 9: how come Anthony Fauci's not in jail yet. So I

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Speaker 9: hear this from my wife, I hear from Uklin, I

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Speaker 9: hear it from everybody else, And it's true. I wish

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Speaker 9: I could put him in jail. I wish I could

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Speaker 9: prosecute him, but the prosecution has to come from the

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Speaker 9: Attorney General. And so we've sent two criminal referrals on

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Speaker 9: Anthony Fauci to have him prosecuted for lying to Congress.

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Speaker 9: This week, I'm sending a third one, and this is

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Speaker 9: based on his denial to Senator Marshall and the Help Committee.

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Speaker 9: He denied having any knowledge of this grant. I find

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Speaker 9: that stretches credulity because he had a representative in the meeting.

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Speaker 9: But not only did they have a representative in the meeting,

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Speaker 9: his agency was part of the proposal. They were proposing

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Speaker 9: that some of the research for this particular project be

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Speaker 9: done at the Rocky Mountain Lab, which is part of

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Speaker 9: Fauci's domain. So I find it very hard to believe

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Speaker 9: he's telling the truth on any of this. But all

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Speaker 9: of the people who were aware of this research going on,

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Speaker 9: that have been quiet, that have been covering this up,

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Speaker 9: We're going to try to get all of their names,

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Speaker 9: have them all deposed, have them all interviewed for why

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Speaker 9: they didn't bring this up, why they didn't inform any

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Speaker 9: of us that there was a great deal of evidence

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Speaker 9: from twenty eighteen showing that the Wuhan virus was trying

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Speaker 9: to create this virus, and they should have all been

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Speaker 9: calling up Anthony Fauci and the President whoever else they

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Speaker 9: could get alled of in January of twenty twenty, and

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Speaker 9: they were all silent, or if they were calling people up,

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Speaker 9: they haven't been honest about it and they haven't said

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Speaker 9: it publicly. But we're going to get to the bottom

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Speaker 9: of this. I just don't have the power to prosecute

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Speaker 9: anyone because I'm not the attorney general.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's say that Trump wins in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe and I know you would probably be

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Speaker 2: involved maybe he'd even try to get you in the

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Speaker 2: cabinet on some way, but you probably would be involved

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Speaker 2: and or know the attorney general nominee. Well, do you

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Speaker 2: think there is someone that Trump could appoint as an

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Speaker 2: attorney general that would be willing to bring charges? Or

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Speaker 2: do you think big Pharma is so powerful and there's

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Speaker 2: such a desire to sweep everything under the rug that

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Speaker 2: there's almost no one has an attorney general that would

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Speaker 2: be willing to go after Anthony Fauci not only what's right,

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Speaker 2: but politically. Do you think there's an AG nominee out

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Speaker 2: there Trump one that would do it.

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Speaker 9: This is the crux of the question about whether I

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Speaker 9: get heavily involved in Trump's reelection or not. I haven't

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Speaker 9: gotten involved so far because I want to hear from

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Speaker 9: him that there'll never be any more lockdowns, that he

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Speaker 9: will absolutely, steadfastly oppose lockdown. But I also want to

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Speaker 9: hear from him that he's not going to put these

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Speaker 9: corporate cronies back in. I mean, the head of the

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Speaker 9: FDA was Scott Gottlieb, who's now on the board at Pfizer,

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Speaker 9: who we know from Missouri versus Biden that Scott Gottlieb

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Speaker 9: was calling up Twitter and trying to suppress any opponents

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Speaker 9: of vaccination for any reasons, such as myself saying that

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Speaker 9: your children don't need to be vaccinated for COVID. Those

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Speaker 9: kind of things were being suppressed by Scott Gottlib. That

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Speaker 9: was a bad pick. If he's going to pick people

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Speaker 9: like that again, I'm not sure I'm that excited. He

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Speaker 9: also picked Bill Barr, not that excited. He was more

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Speaker 9: of a defender and more of a defender of the

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Speaker 9: surveillance state. He picked the wrong person. Now, I think

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Speaker 9: if Trump were on the phone now, he'll tell you

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Speaker 9: he made a mistake with Bill Barr. He made a mistake.

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Speaker 9: Maybe with Scott Gottlieb. He definitely may have skate with,

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Speaker 9: you know, with many of the others in the administration

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Speaker 9: as well. But we've got to do a better job.

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Speaker 9: And I'm not that excited about working in a campaign.

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Speaker 9: If we're going to get more corporate cronies from the

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Speaker 9: pharmaceutical industry, I want objective voices that are going to

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Speaker 9: clean house. I want a clean house at the FBI,

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Speaker 9: I want a clean house at the CIA, I want

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Speaker 9: a clean house at HHS. I want all of the

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Speaker 9: COVID records. I want every last scrap of COVID records

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Speaker 9: of the cover up, and I want to get to

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Speaker 9: the bottom of it. And if I can get that

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Speaker 9: kind of promise from Donald Trump, then I'll get more

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Speaker 9: involved and more excited about his campaign.

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Speaker 4: Senator Paul, what do you think about Donald Trump's recent

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Speaker 4: proclamation on where he stands for the issue of abortion

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Speaker 4: as a state's rights issue versus being vocal about wanting

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Speaker 4: some federal legislation on it. How do you see that

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Speaker 4: constitutionally and politically.

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Speaker 9: For fifty years, those of us in the pro life

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Speaker 9: movement have marched to overturn Roe v. Wade, and now,

773
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Speaker 9: in the face of victory, people saying, oh, it's not enough.

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Speaker 9: We've got to do something different. Now we need a

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Speaker 9: federal law. Look, I'm for life from beginning to end.

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Speaker 9: I'm a pro life person for religious reasons. I believe

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Speaker 9: that were made in the image of our God. I

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Speaker 9: think life is precious and you shouldn't be you shouldn't

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Speaker 9: exterminate it or destroyed life. But at the same time,

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Speaker 9: I'm a believer in that we won the battle on Row.

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Speaker 9: It's gone back to the States. There is no winning

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Speaker 9: a ban of any kind. Unfortunately, there are not sixty

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Speaker 9: votes for the Senate. But fortunately there's not sixty votes

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Speaker 9: to legalize abortion everywhere either, So we're in an impath

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Speaker 9: in the Senate. We just want a big victory. This

786
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Speaker 9: is being sorted out in a very big and emotional

787
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Speaker 9: way throughout the democracy. I'm for letting the states sorted out.

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Speaker 9: Doesn't mean I'm against saying it's you know that we

789
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Speaker 9: should protect life at certain stages everywhere. But for right now, politically,

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Speaker 9: I think this needs to be sorted out in state

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Speaker 9: by state. And some of these laws are one hundred

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Speaker 9: years old. They're going to have to be changed or

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Speaker 9: updated or left the same. But this is going to

794
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Speaker 9: have to be sorted out at the state level. So

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Speaker 9: on this I think Donald Trump's right.

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Speaker 3: Senor Ram Paul with us right now.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned the idea of we need to have some

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Speaker 2: sort of reform with the FBI, with the c with

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Speaker 2: large government investigatory groups.

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Speaker 3: Couple of part question here.

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Speaker 2: One, do you think we'll ever get a truth in

802
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Speaker 2: basically nine to eleven style commission on COVID?

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Speaker 3: Should we get it?

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Speaker 2: Secondly, how concerned are you about the overarching surveillance state,

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Speaker 2: and what do we need to do to reform that.

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Speaker 9: First of all, you got to appoint people at the top,

807
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Speaker 9: but you've got to clean house. I mean, like, for example,

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Speaker 9: this isn't surveillance date, but with Falci, he was in

809
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Speaker 9: charge for forty years. You can't have his crony still

810
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Speaker 9: running the place. So you've got a really clean house

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Speaker 9: at NIH. It's the same way with FBI, though, I mean,

812
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Speaker 9: it became so politicized. The idea that we would investigate

813
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Speaker 9: with secret warrants in a secret court that's supposed to

814
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Speaker 9: be for foreigners, that we investigate a major political party

815
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Speaker 9: candidate in Donald Trump and people around him is obscene.

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Speaker 9: And if there were good progressives left in this country,

817
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Speaker 9: they would be saying exactly the same. But they've all

818
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Speaker 9: gone quiet, they've all lost their voice. What kind of

819
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Speaker 9: world is it where we'd allow people to secretly investigate

820
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Speaker 9: political candidates. I mean, we shouldn't let him do it

821
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Speaker 9: to anyone, but it's even more extraordinarily bad and wrongheaded

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Speaker 9: to let it happen to political candidates. So, you know,

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Speaker 9: but it's about appointments, you know, It's about you know,

824
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Speaker 9: knowing to pick the right people and taking your time

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Speaker 9: to do it and asking for advice. Frankly, you know,

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Speaker 9: I gave Donald Trump quite a bit of advice on picks,

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Speaker 9: you know, and John Bolton. I said absolutely not. On

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Speaker 9: John Bolton. He wrote in his memoir that he called

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Speaker 9: me a name and said I blocked him from being

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Speaker 9: Secretary of State, and thank god I did. But then

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Speaker 9: Trump brought him back in as National security advisor. And

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Speaker 9: if you talk to Donald Trump for more than five minutes,

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Speaker 9: you realize he actually leans libertarian on foreign policies, more

834
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Speaker 9: of a realist. He's less of a guy who wants

835
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Speaker 9: to always go bomb other countries. We had less war.

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Speaker 9: And yes, he picked John Bolton, the biggest war bonger

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Speaker 9: that's been in Washington the last forty years. So you know,

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Speaker 9: he's got to do a better job. Frankly, everybody loves

839
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Speaker 9: Donald Trump. Nobody wants the same thing negative.

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Speaker 5: I do a lot.

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Speaker 9: I like about him. I like him personally. I've been

842
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Speaker 9: around him a bunch, but he's got to do a

843
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Speaker 9: better job. But he's also got to ask advice. Look

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Speaker 9: on this COVID thing, I've been in it from top

845
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Speaker 9: to bottom, and I don't get any calls saying, well,

846
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Speaker 9: who should we pick for this? Who should you pick?

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Speaker 9: I don't want a job from anybody, but I certainly

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Speaker 9: am there to try to help a Trump administration get

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Speaker 9: the people who will never put us in a lockdown again,

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Speaker 9: that will never mandate masks, that will never mandate vaccines,

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Speaker 9: will leave us the hell of loan, stay out of

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Speaker 9: our churches, all of that. But you know they have

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Speaker 9: to take some advice on it and immediately go to

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Speaker 9: big farm to populate the FDA or the CDC.

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Speaker 4: Senator around Paul everybody, sir, always appreciate you joining us,

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Speaker 4: and we'll talk to you again soon.

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Speaker 9: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: You know, we share the news we see with you. Here.

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Speaker 4: We do our best to make sense of all the

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Speaker 4: insanity out there. We highlight smart decisions, we applaud bravery

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Speaker 4: when we see it, and in a sense, in the

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Speaker 4: stock market, that's exactly what Mark Chakin does. Mark worked

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Speaker 4: on Wall Street for fifth years. In his time on

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Speaker 4: the street, he invented three new indices for the Nasdaq

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Speaker 4: and has predicted some of the biggest market ships of

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Speaker 4: the past decade, including the most recent media and AI stocks.

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Speaker 4: Mark says Americans are about to miss out on a

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Speaker 4: critical turning point in this AI frenzy. He's calling this

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Speaker 4: a new dawn for US stocks, and Mark predicts dozens

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Speaker 4: of specific companies will be impacted in just the next

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Speaker 4: ninety days. Say Mark has agreed to share one of

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Speaker 4: his favorite AI stocks to buy with you now. He

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Speaker 3: From the front lines of truth. Clay Travis and Buck Sexton.

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in Play Travis buck Sexton show. We bring

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Speaker 2: in our good friend Congressman Jim Jordan Io for the

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Speaker 2: latest on Capitol Hill. Variety of different subjects, but I

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Speaker 2: know I got to start with you and we just

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Speaker 2: talking to Ran Paul about a different thing that's going

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Speaker 2: on in the world of sports. But when you saw

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Speaker 2: Congressman Dawn Staley come out and say she's the University

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Speaker 2: of South Carolina women's basketball coach just won the National

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Speaker 2: Championship that she thought that if a guy identifies as

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Speaker 2: a woman, he should be able to play women's basketball

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Speaker 2: in college, potentially even for South Carolina you coached. Did

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Speaker 2: you think to yourself, they just keep getting crazier.

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Speaker 5: No, it is. This is Sarah Huckabee Sanders' response to

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Speaker 5: the State and Union a year ago, where she said

894
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Speaker 5: the divide in America today is normal versus crazy, and

895
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Speaker 5: it's true, like there's just something that's just a crazy idea.

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Speaker 5: I think it probably made more people all the more

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Speaker 5: wanting I would have win, and cheering for Caitlin Clark

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Speaker 5: for good the sick.

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Speaker 4: I don't think there's any doubt at all about that.

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Speaker 4: Conx and Jordan appreciate you being here the fight right now.

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Speaker 4: This isn't getting that much.

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Speaker 5: I was saying, I'm still yet in our continuing survey,

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Speaker 5: I've stillet to find any guy who goes and gets

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Speaker 5: ice cream by themselves.

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Speaker 9: I just wanted you to know that.

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Speaker 5: And but and also Buck, I was listening to you

907
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Speaker 5: guys last week. We've had the same thing. Our house

908
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 5: is built in eighteen thirties. We've had the bird down the.

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Speaker 9: Chimney, run flying around, scaring all the.

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Speaker 5: Kid We've had that happen at our place too, so

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Speaker 5: I can relate to that. But on the ice cream thing,

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Speaker 5: nothing's changed.

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Speaker 4: I will say, a shoot covered bird, especially if it's

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Speaker 4: a New York City pigeon, is terrifying. In close proximity.

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Speaker 4: I know it's actually harmless, but when it's the little

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Speaker 4: clouds are coming off it and it's coming at you,

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Speaker 4: You're like, I don't really know what to do.

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Speaker 5: I was laughing so hard because I forget where. We

919
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Speaker 5: were driving somewhere in Texas and we had that gone

920
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Speaker 5: and we were out with helping candidates and different things,

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Speaker 5: and I'm like, I.

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Speaker 9: Know that feeling.

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Speaker 5: We've had it at our We finally put the grapes

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Speaker 5: over the top of the chimneys so we don't get

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Speaker 5: it anymore. But we had that, you know, once every

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Speaker 5: couple of years we get a bird plan all over

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Speaker 5: the house.

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Speaker 3: Well, at least you don't live in South Florida.

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Speaker 4: My wife, I've never heard her scream the way I

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Speaker 4: heard when we had a gecko. And now keep in

931
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Speaker 4: mind there are some large obviously they're alligators, but there

932
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Speaker 4: are some large reptiles here. There's like the iguana and

933
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Speaker 4: some of these iguanas look like small dragons.

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Speaker 3: I'm not gonna lie. They're pretty big.

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Speaker 4: This gecko congressman was the size of my pinky finger,

936
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Speaker 4: and he looked like he just wanted to be friends.

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Speaker 3: But he was like.

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Speaker 4: Running around inside the bathtub or something. So she didn't

939
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Speaker 4: like that very much. So you know, this is what

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Speaker 4: this is why husbands exist. Apparently I I gently placed

941
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Speaker 4: him outside outdoors.

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Speaker 5: All right.

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Speaker 3: The Constitution saving America.

944
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Speaker 4: We're getting back to it right now, yes, section seven

945
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Speaker 4: oh two, Fiza. I remember all this stuff from back

946
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Speaker 4: in my agency days. It's been around a long time.

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Speaker 3: You want you want to war.

948
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Speaker 4: You want people to get a warn if it involves

949
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Speaker 4: an American, right, isn't it. What's the fight over the

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Speaker 4: pizer renewal?

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Speaker 5: Right now, that's exactly right. They collect information on foreigners,

952
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Speaker 5: God blessed them. We want you to do that, But

953
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Speaker 5: there's this giant database that inevitably sweeps up Americans as well,

954
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Speaker 5: who may instantly talk to some foreigner who's under surveillance,

955
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Speaker 5: and then they go search that database, what I called

956
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Speaker 5: this giant haystack of information. They go search it, but

957
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Speaker 5: they don't search it for the foreigner. They use your name,

958
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Speaker 5: American citizens' name, or your email address or your phone

959
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Speaker 5: number to get information on you. And the Constitution is clear,

960
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Speaker 5: if the executive branch is going to go search and

961
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Speaker 5: get info on you, they have to go to a

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Speaker 5: separate and equal branch of the government, the judicial branch,

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Speaker 5: and get a probable cause warrant. And we're saying you've

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Speaker 5: got to do that here, particularly in light of the

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Speaker 5: fact that the FBI two hundred and seventy eight thousand

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Speaker 5: times didn't even follow their own protocols, in their own

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Speaker 5: rules when they search this database. I think that researching

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Speaker 5: they were supposed to put on themselves, they didn't even

969
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Speaker 5: follow those and illegally search the database. That's why you

970
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 5: got to go get a warrant.

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Speaker 2: What can you tell us about And then, by the way,

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Speaker 2: we're glad obviously that this has been struck down and

973
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Speaker 2: doesn't appear like it's going to become a law, at

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Speaker 2: least in the short term. There's a lot of talk

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Speaker 2: about what's going to happen with the speaker. You got

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Speaker 2: caught up and all the drama in October. Do you

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Speaker 2: think that the speaker is safe right now? How is

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Speaker 2: this going to play itself out. How would you analyze,

979
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Speaker 2: for lack of a better term, the horse race, that is,

980
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Speaker 2: who's in charge of the Republican House on a day

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Speaker 2: to day basis.

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Speaker 5: Well, I don't think it makes sense to get a

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Speaker 5: third speaker in the same Congress, particularly six months before

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Speaker 5: the most important election we have determining who's going to

985
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Speaker 5: be our next commander in chief. So I don't think

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Speaker 5: that makes sense. Look, I didn't like to build a

987
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Speaker 5: pass a few weeks ago, particularly the part that I mean,

988
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 5: there was all kinds of things that I thought we

989
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Speaker 5: shouldn't be funding. But when we gave two hundred million

990
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Speaker 5: additional dollars for a new FBI headquarters, it's the same

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Speaker 5: FBI that you know spial on the presidential campaign. Instead

992
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Speaker 5: of our parent going to a school board meeting, you

993
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Speaker 5: need to be investigated, and on and on we go.

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Speaker 5: I didn't think that made any sense. So the things

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Speaker 5: I disagree with, But Mike Johnson's a good man. He's

996
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Speaker 5: got a really tough job, and I don't think it

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Speaker 5: makes sense for us to be changing speakers again in

998
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Speaker 5: the middle of this Congress, particularly when right now it

999
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Speaker 5: looks like, uh, you know, President Trump is even up

1000
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Speaker 5: in all seven of the swing stays, and I think

1001
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Speaker 5: we've got a great chance of having President Trump in

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Speaker 5: the White House, which is what I'm one hundred percent

1003
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Speaker 5: for taking back to the United States Senate and keeping

1004
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Speaker 5: the House and then really getting the chance to do

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Speaker 5: the things that matters to American families.

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Speaker 4: You know, we've seen President Trump earlier today step off

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Speaker 4: of Trump Force one and address the press assembled and

1008
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Speaker 4: do his usual Trump thing. And then he put on

1009
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Speaker 4: a bit of a show, getting a bunch of milkshakes

1010
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Speaker 4: for folks and doing his thing at Chick fil A. This, now,

1011
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:38,399
Speaker 4: this just happened. Congressman wanted to let you hear this.

1012
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,759
Speaker 4: This is Biden holding an official press conference and then

1013
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Speaker 4: pulls out the list of pre approved questioners. And this

1014
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Speaker 4: is how it goes. This is how it sounds.

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Speaker 3: Thirty four players, next question?

1016
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Speaker 5: Who I call on? Next? Here?

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Speaker 3: You are my list to.

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Speaker 5: Go.

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Speaker 3: I apolose, guys. I mean, it's just the contrast.

1020
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Speaker 4: I don't understand how anybody can't see exactly what's going

1021
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Speaker 4: on here Biden Trump, how they can actually process information.

1022
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Speaker 5: Yeah they can see it. Everyone can see it. But

1023
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:17,240
Speaker 5: the left doesn't care because again back to what Governor

1024
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Speaker 5: Luckabee Sanders said, they're they're the party now. The Democrat

1025
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Speaker 5: Party is completely controlled by the left, and the left

1026
00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 5: is crazy. It's all about stopping Trump, stopping the first Amendments,

1027
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Speaker 5: like you, I mean, it's all that's what the left does,

1028
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Speaker 5: and that's what we have to understand. That's why this

1029
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,319
Speaker 5: election is so darn important. The contrast couldn't be clear.

1030
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Speaker 5: And here's the other thing. Joe Biden'll do some events

1031
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 5: and there'll be four people show up. I've been to

1032
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 5: the in the last month's been to two of President

1033
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 5: Trump's rallies when when he's there, there are thousands of

1034
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Speaker 5: people people waiting to get in, can't get in, or

1035
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Speaker 5: outside watching it on the big screen. Because there they

1036
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Speaker 5: know that there's this bond that exists between President Trump

1037
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Speaker 5: and his voters because they know he's actually fighting. In fact,

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Speaker 5: he has a great line he says, they're coming after

1039
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Speaker 5: me because I'm fighting for you. They're coming from my freedom,

1040
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:03,360
Speaker 5: because I'm fighting for yours and and and the country

1041
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Speaker 5: understands that. Joe Biden, like like you said, he's got

1042
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Speaker 5: to read off a note card and go with the

1043
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Speaker 5: pre approved media people to get a question in for.

1044
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Speaker 2: Goodness take do you think that he's gonna You know,

1045
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:17,520
Speaker 2: you listen to the show some you know that Buck

1046
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Speaker 2: and I have a stake bet on who is going

1047
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Speaker 2: to be the nominee. And I think you've waged in

1048
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Speaker 2: a few times over the last you know, six seven months,

1049
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Speaker 2: as we've talked about this, when you see like that

1050
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Speaker 2: clip that we just played where Biden has to pull

1051
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Speaker 2: out a note card and figure out who is going

1052
00:52:32,239 --> 00:52:35,160
Speaker 2: to be called on, when you see him struggle as

1053
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Speaker 2: he does anytime they take him off the prompter at all.

1054
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Speaker 2: A couple of questions, do you think we were talking earlier,

1055
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Speaker 2: do you think they'll actually be debates? And secondly, if

1056
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Speaker 2: there are debates, do you think Biden will be the

1057
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Speaker 2: Democrat nominee or do you still think they're going to

1058
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Speaker 2: yank him at the last minute.

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Speaker 5: I think there won't be debates because I think to

1060
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Speaker 5: answer the second question, because I think he's still going.

1061
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Speaker 3: To be the nominee.

1062
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Speaker 5: I think there there's no way they're going to change it.

1063
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Speaker 5: I think Joe, Biden and Frank maybe the first Lady

1064
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Speaker 5: are just cling to this. They're not gonna They're not

1065
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,239
Speaker 5: gonna leave. I think that's gonna be our nominee.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 5: And the left, what what really concerns me is what

1068
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Speaker 5: are they gonna try and act? You know, think about this,

1069
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 5: this this against the They spied on this campaign. Then

1070
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Speaker 5: it was Muller, then it was impeachment, then they raided

1071
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Speaker 5: his home. Then is Jack Smith two different indictments, Fanny

1072
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Speaker 5: Willis Alvin Braggan two different states, and then it's the

1073
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Speaker 5: fourteenth Amendment. What's coming next?

1074
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Speaker 9: What are they gonna trust?

1075
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Speaker 5: Because we've sill got six and a half months. You know,

1076
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Speaker 5: the one thing we know about the left is they're relentless.

1077
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Speaker 5: There's gonna be something that they that some new wrinkled

1078
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Speaker 5: days they throw out that that tries to keep Joe

1079
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Speaker 5: Biden in the White House. So but I still think

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Speaker 5: he's gonna be their nominee. And maybe you know, who knows,

1081
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Speaker 5: maybe the last minute they do something at the convention

1082
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Speaker 5: or around the convention. But I still think it's gonna

1083
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Speaker 5: be him.

1084
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Speaker 4: But I don't think diod to know that Congress and

1085
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Speaker 4: Jim Jordan stands uh right next to Buck on the

1086
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Speaker 4: island of of reason and sanity, that Biden will be

1087
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Speaker 4: the nominee and there'll be no debates.

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Speaker 3: Clay's he's uh, we got two for two here. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know it's congressman. I mean, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Maybe I have to buy you a steak too, or

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Speaker 2: else you're gonna have to buy us a steak because uh,

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Speaker 2: I just I watched this and I just think to myself,

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Speaker 2: this can't be the plan.

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Speaker 3: But who knows.

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Speaker 2: I mean, given what the things are going, they're just

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Speaker 2: gonna roll the dice. Maybe they are. They're just going

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Speaker 2: to throw him out there and say it doesn't matter

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Speaker 2: who the presidential candidate is, you got to show up

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Speaker 2: and vote for him either way.

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Speaker 5: It's sad because you know, in our great even though

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Speaker 5: we disagree with I know all three but disagree with

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Speaker 5: President Biden's policy, he still our president and you still

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Speaker 5: want to who can handle the duties of that most

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Speaker 5: important job, the most important job on the planet. And

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Speaker 5: you just everyone can see he's just not up to

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Speaker 5: the task, where by contrast, President Trump is no doubt

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Speaker 5: about it, no doubt about it. But it's it's a

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Speaker 5: sad situation we have with the current president.

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Speaker 3: Congress and Jim Jordans appreciate you stopping buy sir, good

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Speaker 3: to talk to you.

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Speaker 5: Thanks, take care.

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Speaker 2: I want to tell you this weekend. Maybe you're looking

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Speaker 2: for some fun. March madness is over, there's not I

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Speaker 2: know a lot of you're gonna be watching the Masters,

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Speaker 2: but maybe you want to take the kids.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you want to take the wife, girlfriend, Maybe just

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Speaker 3: want to get out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: New movie coming out Friday, Civil War, the fictional portrayal

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Speaker 2: of the country. What would happen if we had a

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Speaker 2: modern day Civil war? If you love The Last of Us,

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Speaker 2: this is your kind of movie. Movie you'll portray what

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Speaker 2: might happen in a modern day.

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Speaker 3: Not focused on today's politics.

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Speaker 2: California and Texas are on the same side, which kind

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Speaker 2: of gives you an idea. It's not focused on today's politics,

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Speaker 2: but it is a fascinating window into what could happen.

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Speaker 2: Produced by a twenty four written and directed by Alex Garland.

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Speaker 2: You can get hooked up right now, buy tickets in advance.

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Speaker 2: You can watch it on Imax. Betch I always love

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Speaker 2: to do Cass, Kirsten Dunch, Bring it on. I think

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Speaker 2: one of the funniest movies of the twenty first century.

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Speaker 3: Cheerleader drama. I'm serious. Jesse Pleman's Friday Night Lights.

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Speaker 2: He was amazing in that. He was great in Breaking Bad.

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Speaker 2: I'm told they're married. I didn't even know that.

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Speaker 3: A movie called Civil War. Look it up.

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Speaker 2: Make plans now to see it in theaters this weekend

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Speaker 2: if you can.

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Speaker 3: It is Civil War. Check it out, released on Friday.

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Speaker 1: Need a break from politics, a little comedy to counter

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Speaker 1: the craziness, so do we. The Sunday Hang a weekend

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Speaker 1: podcast to lighten things up a bit. Find it in

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Speaker 1: the Clay and Buck podcast feed, on the iHeartRadio app,

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.