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Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in another beautiful Fox Sports Sunday. Here

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Speaker 2: with you Mike Carmon alongside Jeff Schwartz eight years in

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Speaker 2: the league, The Barbetts Podcast.

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Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz is smarter than you.

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Speaker 2: He's a media Mogul's my good friend to hear on

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Speaker 2: Sunday in mornings at Jeff Schwartz where you find him

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Speaker 2: in the Twitter verse. Find me over at Swollen Dome, Jeff.

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Speaker 2: Another rousing Sunday, T shirt and underwear. Olympics going on,

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Speaker 2: and so much around our sporting universe.

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Speaker 4: How are you? I'm good, buddy, How are you? That's

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Speaker 4: first time I've been called it like a media mogul

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Speaker 4: before us. I'll take it.

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Speaker 3: Hey, you're building building. I am good.

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Speaker 4: I assume we're doing a three hour preview because the

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Speaker 4: offensive linemen are working out todayt the Combine at one

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Speaker 4: pm Eastern, so I figured that's it today's shows. I'm

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Speaker 4: excited to preview every single offensive lineman, all of them.

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Speaker 4: We're talking every single one of them.

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Speaker 3: That sounds good.

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Speaker 2: Just to be fair, you've got a lot of flips

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Speaker 2: about them, you know, the highlights that get spoken of

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Speaker 2: I mean, we got to get you to do voiceovers, right,

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Speaker 2: because everybody highlights the you know, what the wide receivers

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Speaker 2: are doing, then the routes. I think we need to

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Speaker 2: go back and have a super cut with you doing

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Speaker 2: that for the offensive lineman, if you.

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Speaker 4: It's the only answer. Yeah, that's only that feels fair

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Speaker 4: for everyone is to hear from from me about why

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Speaker 4: these guys are doing what they're doing and to make

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Speaker 4: sure that we know exactly what's happening on each and

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Speaker 4: every one of these No, it's it's a fun day.

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Speaker 4: It's it's combine, last day of the combine. You know.

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Speaker 4: I find myself the older I get, maybe the less

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Speaker 4: I am intrigued. I think maybe by the combine, just

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Speaker 4: because I've watched all these guys sort of play on

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Speaker 4: a film, right, and that obviously is the be all

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Speaker 4: end all is what people is what these guys do

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Speaker 4: on film. But it's still excites me to see if

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Speaker 4: the film matches up with what we see these guys

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Speaker 4: do today or yesterday, the day before that, we saw

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Speaker 4: some wide receivers run very fast and you look at

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Speaker 4: the film and you're like, okay, that that checks out.

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Speaker 4: And we saw some wide receivers run slow and then

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Speaker 4: that checks out. So it's, uh, you know, it's always

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Speaker 4: interesting time to figure out what what this actually means

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Speaker 4: for the draft.

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Speaker 2: Well, and I think it's the curiosity, you know, in

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Speaker 2: one of the big points is the number of players

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Speaker 2: who didn't participate in different phases of it, right, whatever

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Speaker 2: it was. Caleb Williams obviously drawing the most headlines this

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Speaker 2: week with in terms of who's he's going to share

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Speaker 2: his medicals with, and he was around the facilities and

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Speaker 2: everybody's reports, Hey, such a great guy and saying hi

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Speaker 2: and thank you to all the people that are helping

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Speaker 2: to run it. But in terms of on field evaluation,

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Speaker 2: you weren't getting anything extra. There several other players, Jayden

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Speaker 2: scheduled media event. So like all of that of wondering

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Speaker 2: the tide turning and change of this process. And you know,

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Speaker 2: the Spectator event versus the NFL work event, right and

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Speaker 2: where the two have always kind of co mingled as

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Speaker 2: a four day, five day event for risk perhaps shifting

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Speaker 4: It's interesting, right, but you know the leverage that some

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Speaker 4: of these players have makes it easier for them to

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Speaker 4: make these moves, right, I mean, Caleb Williams is going one,

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Speaker 4: if not he's going two. I mean that's the lowest

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Speaker 4: In the NFL, Yeah'm just not doing this, Marvein Merrison Junior.

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Speaker 4: I think romadoons A is maybe better, But I don't

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Speaker 4: think NFL teams quite have the same feeling as me. So,

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Speaker 4: you know, at worse he goes instead of four to six,

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Speaker 4: you know, like there's not much of a difference because

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Speaker 4: he didn't show up to a scheduled interview. You know,

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Speaker 4: I do think there are people that, you know, maybe

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Speaker 4: I do think that the Caleb Williams decision to skip

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Speaker 4: the medicals is sort of fascinating to me. That leads

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Speaker 4: me to believe he's hiding something. That that's the way

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Speaker 4: gonna give his he's gonna do medical testing, at his visits.

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Speaker 4: So the way that the visits work is these teams

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Speaker 4: not medical visits. They are visits. There are visits just

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Speaker 4: we're doing a full medical evaluation. The reason for the

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Speaker 4: combine is the medical So it's it's a single city obviously, Indianapolis,

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Speaker 4: where every NFL team is at and every NFL team

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Speaker 4: has their team doctors there and their trainers, and you

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Speaker 4: five or six teams are in every room. Medically, you know, doctors, trainers,

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Speaker 4: and you get medical testing. They feel your body, they

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Speaker 4: try to figure out, you know, there is there anything

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Speaker 4: need to get more testing on the way. The reason

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Speaker 4: why Indianapolis is a good host city, there's many reasons why,

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Speaker 4: but one is that the hospitals are very close to

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Speaker 4: blood work, EKGs, all those things, and Williams is basically saying, yeah,

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Speaker 4: a player. But it leads me to think that he's

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Speaker 4: hiding something, maybe because why would you just not do this,

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Speaker 4: Like it's not you're there for that purpose. It's not

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Speaker 4: force a team to do all this in an individual visit.

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Speaker 4: And I get look, again, he's going to like one

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Speaker 4: of two or three teams. It's not like again it's

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Speaker 4: But I do. I'm curious about the reasoning, Like what's

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Speaker 4: the reason why, I mean, I to me, it's not

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Speaker 4: trying to hide something or B. You know, there's he

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Speaker 4: doesn't want other teams to get his medical history for

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Speaker 2: That don't get shared in the and comes out in

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Speaker 2: the wash anyway, right like if yeah, try to trade

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Speaker 4: Mean I don't talk well then yeah, I mean that's

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Speaker 4: to turn it down, there's question marks, and I to

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Speaker 4: me to go back to his film. We've talked a

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Speaker 4: lot about this film and his leadership at USC like

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Speaker 4: those all checked out, so I'm not as concerned about

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Speaker 4: him missing the physical part of it. I'm doing doing physicals.

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Speaker 4: I find it so funny how we romanticize just being

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Speaker 4: nice to people. Caleb Williams said, thank you to everybody. No, sure,

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Speaker 4: it feels like you should just it seems that way,

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Speaker 4: be nice. But we romanticize athletes like being nice, which

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Speaker 2: But that's this crazy thing though, Jeff. It's something I've

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Speaker 2: been barking up the tree forever. It's like you got

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Speaker 2: a very small percentage of, for lack of a better term,

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Speaker 2: bad apples, but everybody gets painted with the big thick brush, right, Like, oh,

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Speaker 2: the athletes and you know, defend your sport right in

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Speaker 2: three guys that do something that's just heinous, beyond anybody's understanding, justification, whatever.

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Speaker 3: But it becomes ah, look at all those NFL guys, like,

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Speaker 2: Five guys or something like that that account for him

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Speaker 2: a bunch for Caleb. It just and we've talked about

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Speaker 2: there were just a points during this season and look,

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Speaker 2: Lincoln Riley did him no favors, you know, hey, just

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Speaker 2: off and going into the crowd with his mom. Whatever

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Speaker 2: people want to make of that. It's it's the idea

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Speaker 2: though that if you're going to go to a Chicago

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Speaker 2: you're only going to get a honeymoon period so long. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 2: and if it gets tough, is this the guy you

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Speaker 2: now when you're in the pros, you recognize, hey, it's different,

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Speaker 2: know that that's where I come in, and then all

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Speaker 2: the reports of what his dad has asked or what

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Speaker 2: But a lot of it it seems to be a

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Speaker 4: I think it's it's certainly fair to talk about his

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Speaker 4: but I think there are legit concerns about sort of

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Speaker 4: who's in his ear right now right, And then you

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Speaker 4: mentioned the adversity part of it, so but not speaking

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Speaker 4: of the media thing is fascinating because Lincoln Riley is

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Speaker 4: I think it was his decision at USC and when

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Speaker 4: just like stopped having his players talk to reporters in

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Speaker 4: that because again, he won't have a choice. He'll be fine.

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Speaker 4: If he doesn't talk, he will be fine. I mean,

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Speaker 4: that's pretty pretty simple.

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Speaker 2: The one thing my kids know about football life is

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Speaker 2: they really know Marshawn Lynch's quotes. So I don't get fine, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I know anything else, but they got that one.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So you know, I'm not as concerned about about that.

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Speaker 4: But I do think that, you know, when when adversity

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Speaker 4: on the field last year happened, sometimes it made him

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Speaker 4: sort of make poor decisions a quarterback on the field, right,

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Speaker 4: try to try to do too much, and that that

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Speaker 4: anything else that his you know, his is not not

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Speaker 4: more about, okay, well, you know, if the things aren't

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Speaker 4: going well for the Bears, is he going to try

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Speaker 4: compound errors with more errors that that Those are my concerns,

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Speaker 4: not really whether or not you know, he talks to media.

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Speaker 4: He's you have to do that in the NFL. So

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Speaker 4: if you don't like to do it, you will get

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Speaker 4: ready for it. You have to. You have to do it.

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Speaker 4: And that's why I'm not it's concerned about the auxiliary things.

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Speaker 4: I'm more about the film. How does teammates feel about him,

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Speaker 4: how his attitude those things more than again, you know,

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Speaker 4: did he you know, is he is he nice to

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Speaker 4: media or not? Oh?

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Speaker 2: the different ventures along the highways.

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Speaker 4: And by well, this would have been my favor, would

434
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Speaker 4: be my favorite. Man. Oh so good, just like get

435
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Speaker 4: paid to eat food.

436
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,719
Speaker 2: Come on, Yeah, I tried pitching long ago. You know,

437
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,800
Speaker 2: Jay Glazer comes on with Smith and I during the

438
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Speaker 2: football season is buddy Guy Fieri. Before it existed, we

439
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 2: were trying to pitch what about a tailgaming thing, and

440
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Speaker 2: then they did it for a brief period and I

441
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 2: us it just became such a big cluster trying to do.

442
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Speaker 4: I mean we I uh, I had an idea that

443
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Speaker 4: we shot actually a pilot for with a different a

444
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Speaker 4: different a different pilot for a different company that we

445
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Speaker 4: try to basically do dinod Drivers and Diazma for stadiums.

446
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,359
Speaker 4: That was our idea, and we shot a pilot for

447
00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 4: that one. I think they're still pitching it though. It

448
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:22,159
Speaker 4: just never got done. We just showt a pilot and

449
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,240
Speaker 4: tried to pitch it around as far as the idea

450
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Speaker 4: of like doing that idea right stadium food, Yeah.

451
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Speaker 2: I mean, since there's so many different things, like that's

452
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Speaker 2: one of the big drops, right, other than bad pants

453
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,119
Speaker 2: that are seen through and all. That's one of the

454
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Speaker 2: big things that each team does is hey, look at

455
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Speaker 2: our new confections for the new season. Absolutely dog or

456
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Speaker 2: Nacho Bowl or whatever it is.

457
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Speaker 4: Yeah, So that's what we did again. I've done I've

458
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Speaker 4: tried this a lot. It doesn't always work, unfortunately.

459
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Speaker 3: But but that but is it that what our folks

460
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Speaker 3: taught us when we were younger.

461
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Speaker 2: Keep trying, Oh yeah, yeah, I mean none of these

462
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Speaker 2: things straighten.

463
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Speaker 3: Then it takes.

464
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,199
Speaker 4: All it takes is one keep swinging.

465
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Speaker 3: That's right.

466
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Speaker 2: We got plenty of time left to do it. I'll

467
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Speaker 2: pitch five or six ideas by the end of the show.

468
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Speaker 2: It is a think take here if you've got ideas

469
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Speaker 2: for us, at Jeff Schwartz at Swollen Dome, where you

470
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Speaker 2: find this Jeff. Last night, forty thousand points Lebron James.

471
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Speaker 2: Here's what the buckets sounded like. On the national broadcast

472
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Speaker 2: James again.

473
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Speaker 3: Supporter Drives Spence gets inside thou Jobron James the NBA's

474
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Speaker 3: all time leaving scored with another.

475
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Speaker 4: Milestone as the legend of Lebron continues to grow.

476
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Speaker 2: Mike Breen on the call ABC it was nationally televised

477
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Speaker 2: James would finish with twenty six points on the night

478
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Speaker 2: one twenty four one fourteen loss to the Nuggets. You

479
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Speaker 2: know that team that just going about their business and

480
00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 2: let everybody else have all the noise and talk across

481
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Speaker 2: the league.

482
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Speaker 3: I thought Brien was pretty funny.

483
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Speaker 2: And snarky goes, well, if you had the bet at

484
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Speaker 2: the end of the first quarter that he'd hit forty

485
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Speaker 2: thousand points, you lost as he had his warm up

486
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Speaker 2: suit on. And then they had a whole discussion about

487
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Speaker 2: prop bets and educating themselves and the masses about prop

488
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Speaker 2: bets for such things, Jeff, but it felt kind of muted.

489
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Speaker 2: I kind of dug the fact that they didn't stop

490
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Speaker 2: the game in the moment, and then afterwards, I'm like,

491
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Speaker 2: you know, you probably should have stopped the game.

492
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Speaker 4: I guess, I mean, is it maybe?

493
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Speaker 2: I mean, I know it's not the be all and

494
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Speaker 2: end already finished with Like I said, with twenty six,

495
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: he's at forty seventeen, and every bucket is a record setter.

496
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Speaker 2: I guess I've hit the age and I'm not a

497
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Speaker 2: participation trophy guy in any way, shape or form. But

498
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Speaker 2: there's also the idea of milestones and things where you

499
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Speaker 2: know people have collected and yes, obviously a huge game,

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Speaker 2: national game against Denver, you've had a kind of a

501
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Speaker 2: strange week that you're trying to build off of. But

502
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Speaker 2: when you have something that anticipated that it that it

503
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: seemed like, at least for the moment, throw the ball

504
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Speaker 2: a lot of player or whatever you're gonna do, and

505
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Speaker 2: and let him wave to the crowd, get the big

506
00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 2: hype thing instead. You know, Denver got the ball right

507
00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,320
Speaker 2: back in six months ago. I might not have been

508
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,359
Speaker 2: that guy and been like, good, talk about it after

509
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Speaker 2: the game's over and where you're at.

510
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Speaker 3: But I don't know.

511
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Speaker 2: Something something about the nostalgia of it all. And you know,

512
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Speaker 2: nice round numbers just hit me to where it's like, well,

513
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Speaker 2: because it is on the nationally televised game.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess that. I understand why didn't do it

515
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Speaker 4: for this one. I mean, he didn't didn't technically break

516
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Speaker 4: a record. He got to a number, right, that is,

517
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Speaker 4: to your point, a round number. It's pretty awesome, pretty

518
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Speaker 4: awesome accomplishment. I get why they didn't stop it for

519
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Speaker 4: this specific accomplishment. What is the you're you're a Chicago guy.

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Speaker 4: Is the argument for Jordan being better just that he

521
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Speaker 4: has more titles? I just I don't know. I think,

522
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Speaker 4: like for me, I would rank Jordan one A and

523
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Speaker 4: Lebron one B if that makes sense, right. I think

524
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Speaker 4: Jordan's the best winner. I think Lebron is the best,

525
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Speaker 4: most talented player, best player, however you want to say it,

526
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Speaker 4: both things can sort of be true at the same time. Right,

527
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Speaker 4: that Lebron was or is the best player ever, but

528
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Speaker 4: you obviously didn't have as much winning as Jordan did.

529
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Speaker 4: But also he's been the more conference championships, he's led

530
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Speaker 4: worse teams. I don't know, man, the more he keeps

531
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Speaker 4: playing at this age and kicking him but I don't

532
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Speaker 4: know how much longer we can continue to say that

533
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Speaker 4: Jordan is definitely better than Michael.

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think a lot of folks definitely.

535
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Speaker 4: I mean, Geordie definitely better than than Lebron.

536
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Speaker 2: Right, I think a lot of folks default to the

537
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Speaker 2: six for six and leave it there. I think if

538
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Speaker 2: you want to go, you know, and dive the a

539
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 2: little bit deeper. You know, you can get into scoring records, well,

540
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: who cares? You know the year by year scoring leader.

541
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Speaker 2: You know, Michael led and scoring this many times. I

542
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Speaker 2: think when you add the defensive player you know all

543
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Speaker 2: NBA's or you know those considerations, maybe you can push

544
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Speaker 2: in that direction. But some of it's just about you know,

545
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,320
Speaker 2: your flavor and your time that you're watching as well.

546
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Speaker 2: Right to your point about some of the teams that

547
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Speaker 2: Lebron dragged along.

548
00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 3: Yeah he did. I mean, there's no denying that. And

549
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Speaker 3: I think part of it is a generational divide and

550
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Speaker 3: a clinginess to what was ours and our time.

551
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Speaker 4: All right.

552
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Speaker 2: I'm an old man, I'm a Chicagoan, and you know,

553
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: people die fiercely on the hill.

554
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Speaker 3: It's in argument.

555
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 2: I don't get too deep into because it's like anything else, Right,

556
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,800
Speaker 2: what's your favorite flavor of ice cream? Yeah, there's you know,

557
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: tens of thousands of them go wild and on one night,

558
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: I may just want a little bit of vanilla with

559
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 2: a little chocolate sauce. Another night, I may want something

560
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: kind of crazy that salt and straw, or one of

561
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 2: these other confection you know where I've got some pair

562
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,159
Speaker 2: in goat cheese getting after it. I don't know. You

563
00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:52,359
Speaker 2: just never know what your your palte's gonna be. But

564
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 2: when it comes to these things, we get entrenched in

565
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 2: what I think, what we claim as our own.

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Speaker 4: I'm with you on that one. I also think, you know,

567
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 4: it's just that we want to be right, you know,

568
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,840
Speaker 4: we want to be the one that definitively says Jordan's better,

569
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Speaker 4: Lebron's better, and and to me again, I think you

570
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 4: can honor both those guys as being the best without

571
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 4: having to say, like, you know, definitively again, I think

572
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:20,040
Speaker 4: Jordan's the best winner. But again, the one, the one

573
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Speaker 4: counter to my point about the winning is the fact

574
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Speaker 4: that he went to six championships and won six. Lebron's

575
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 4: been to what nine to ten? Uh?

576
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: Ten? Right?

577
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 4: Ten? I like that's a it's definitively more winning.

578
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 2: No, but that's it, right, because folks are also arguing about,

579
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: you know, getting to forty thousand point, Well, he didn't

580
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:46,239
Speaker 2: go to college or he didn't do this.

581
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Speaker 3: He's also played a lot more playoff games. Yeah, he's right.

582
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Speaker 2: I mean, what is it like four extra seasons worth

583
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 2: of playoff games on those weird legs, So it kind

584
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 2: of balances out when it's when it's all said and

585
00:28:58,760 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: done there. Look, he's as a modern marvel. I'd love

586
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: to love to study the genetics, the work and all

587
00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 2: of that. We talked about it a little bit last week, Right,

588
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 2: Everybody kind of you know, always wondering what's what's the

589
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 2: special sauce, some with some nefarious intent to that versus

590
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 2: you know, the work and everything else.

591
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, even with the nefarious attend stuff. Like when I

592
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 4: watch sports, I want to be entertained. That's my goal, right,

593
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Speaker 4: that's it. And so if my favorite baseball player is

594
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Speaker 4: on steroids, I don't know, is he entertaining? Like is

595
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 4: Lebron entertainment? Like I'm not. I'm not here to watch

596
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,480
Speaker 4: sports for the morality of sports. Maybe other people are,

597
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 4: of course, I like my I'll take that back a

598
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,800
Speaker 4: little bit. I don't want my favorite player to be

599
00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 4: a criminal put it like that. But steroids to me,

600
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,240
Speaker 4: is not criminal behavior. It's Look, I'm a I'm a

601
00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: Barry Bonds guy, a group of Giants fans my favorite

602
00:29:58,360 --> 00:30:00,800
Speaker 4: player as a kid, and like I know, I felt

603
00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 4: pretty entertained as a child watching baseball Maguire Sosa nineteen

604
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 4: ninety eight. Was I was twelve years old, like right

605
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,120
Speaker 4: my wheelhouse. I remember watching the home run chase. Like

606
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 4: to me that that was pretty entertaining. Like I'll take

607
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,880
Speaker 4: that over sometimes what we have baseball now, right, So,

608
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 4: like I hate the morality of like the steroid thing,

609
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 4: Like if Lebron is using and it makes him entertaining

610
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 4: un till forty two years old, like I don't know,

611
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 4: I'm kind of fine with it. Maybe it's a blind spot.

612
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 4: I don't know.

613
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Speaker 3: I I don't know.

614
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 4: I'm I'm I think I'm fine with it. Mike already

615
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 4: entertained and Lebron is entertaining me, and I'm not you

616
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 4: know what about the kids? What I have young children,

617
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: You have children. It's our job to teach our kids

618
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 4: about those things, stall Lebron's job. It's my job to

619
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 4: tell my kids about Barry Bonds and tell them, Look, guys,

620
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,400
Speaker 4: here's here's a consequences of your actions. He's not gonna

621
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Speaker 4: be a Hall of Fame because of it. I disagree

622
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,200
Speaker 4: with that, but you know, like these are here's and

623
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 4: here's the pros and cons of that. Here's why you

624
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 4: should do it, shouldn't do it. Whatever. It's my job

625
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 4: as a parent, not Bond's job. So I just think that,

626
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 4: you know, if Lebron is using and it makes them

627
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,520
Speaker 4: more exciting as a player, I don't know, man, I'm

628
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 4: kind of not against it.

629
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just get into the you know, we're always

630
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 2: looking for the next invention, iteration of getting our stars

631
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 2: back on a field right and keeping them on a field,

632
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,680
Speaker 2: which I always joke about, Hey, look where we're at

633
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 2: in the NBA season. Outside of Joel Embiid, everybody can

634
00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,959
Speaker 2: play right and obviously John Morant. We watched what Memphis

635
00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: has now done. They're losing to Portland with regularity. That's

636
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: how bad it's gotten. But it's just the idea of

637
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: all other stars are healthy. If I can bubble wrap

638
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 2: them or give them some magic pill that gets me

639
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: to mid April. I'm a happy guy because the NBA

640
00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 2: playoffs are going to be that much better with Lebron.

641
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 2: You know, We've just had a number of folks allege

642
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: and certainly not doing that here. All I know is

643
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 2: I'd like to be able to just in my everyday life,

644
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 2: not as an athlete or anything else. It's been able

645
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: to perform as he does ye each of these nights. Right,

646
00:31:53,240 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: It comes at a big loss, but you see the

647
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 2: athleticism and the craziness that he's done.

648
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,680
Speaker 4: And last thing to put a ball in this I

649
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Speaker 4: played with will end up being probably four Hall of Famers.

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Speaker 4: Julis Pepper is already in the Hall of Fame. I

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Speaker 4: practicing at them every day, put against them, and when

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Speaker 4: he went to the Bears, and Steve Smith, also Carolina Panther,

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Speaker 4: he will be a Hall of Famer. Adrian Peterson will

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Speaker 4: be a Hall of Famer. Block for him. In twenty twelve,

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Speaker 4: the year he had he was nine seven yards away

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Speaker 4: from nine yards away from the all time record. And

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Speaker 4: Eli Manne will probably be the Hall of Fame. I

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Speaker 4: would imagine at some point. Du quarterbacks with two Super

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Speaker 4: Bowls and it's all but one are in, right, and

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Speaker 4: he beat the Patriots, so I think he'll be in

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Speaker 4: at some point. But let's talk about like Pepper, Steve

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Speaker 4: Smith and and Adrian Peterson. Those guys are just they're

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Speaker 4: different humans and the rest of us. And there's no

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Speaker 4: explanation for like why they're different other than just genetics obviously.

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Speaker 4: And I play with even guys that are that are

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Speaker 4: good that aren't Hall of Famers, and the guys that

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Speaker 4: are really good that are Hall of Famers. I mean

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Speaker 4: they have some qualities of them are different than just me, right,

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Speaker 4: but imagine I mean the Hall of Famers men, they're

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Speaker 4: just built differently genetically. The ability to rehab from injuries

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Speaker 4: is faster anyone else, the ability to recover after a workout,

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Speaker 4: the bit sustain their top level play, and yes, of

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Speaker 4: course they work their butts off and I'm not just

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Speaker 4: carrying that, but they're just different. And Lebron obviously is

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Speaker 4: that the cream of the crop when it comes to

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Speaker 4: that discussion. And again, it's hard to put into words

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Speaker 4: exactly what that is, but when you're around those guys,

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Speaker 4: that's what it is. They rehab faster, they recover faster,

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Speaker 4: they can sustain training longer, they can play longer at

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Speaker 4: a top level. They're just built completely differently than the

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Speaker 4: rest of us, even the guys that are good. I

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Speaker 4: put it with guys that made five six Pro bowls

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Speaker 4: that aren't gonna ever see a Hall of Fame, and

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Speaker 4: they're in a different level than than the rest of us.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we got to get to Ilow.

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Speaker 2: We'll continue with that one because I think that's a

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Speaker 2: big point to make in terms of separating He says.

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Speaker 7: Hi I Loo, Well, inspired by your endorsement of utilizing

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Speaker 7: performance enhancing substances, I have just ingested a performance enhancing

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Speaker 7: substance of my own for this report. It's called verbal blabodine.

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Speaker 7: It makes one talk with a much higher frequency and

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Speaker 7: injects much more power into your voice. I've heard Steve

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Speaker 7: Hartman mainlines that stuff.

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Speaker 3: How about that you know what, I'll tell you what

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Speaker 3: I'm doing.

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Speaker 4: Well done, I like God's well done, I like l Aberdeen.

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Speaker 7: I'm not too bad of an idea that I think

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Speaker 7: of it.

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Speaker 3: Anyway.

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Speaker 7: We started the NFL where ESPN reports that the Miami

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Speaker 7: Dolphins are unlikely to use the franchise tag on defensive

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Speaker 7: tackle Christian Wilkins, which would make him an unrestricted free agent. Wilcoms,

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Speaker 7: of course, coming off a career high nine sacks in

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Speaker 7: twenty twenty three for the Dolphins. In the NBA, on

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Speaker 7: Saturday Night, Lebron James becomes the first to hit forty

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Speaker 7: thousand career points. However, it came in a lass one

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Speaker 7: twenty four to one fourteen to Denver.

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Speaker 8: I'm never thinking about a milestone when I'm out there battling,

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Speaker 8: but when it happens, obviously we acknowledge it and uh

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Speaker 8: and obviously not much respect and much loyalty to the

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Speaker 8: lady fan base for showing me I love during the

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Speaker 8: time out and.

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Speaker 4: Being the first player to.

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Speaker 8: Do something that's It's pretty cool in this lead because

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Speaker 8: you just know the history, you know the grace that's

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Speaker 8: come to the league, and then you see some of

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Speaker 8: the graces on the Florida Night, which is great to compete.

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Speaker 7: That great includes Nikola Jokic thirty five points, ten rebounds

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Speaker 7: and seven assists for Denver. Houston's Jalen Green scored thirty

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Speaker 7: four and they're one eighteen to one oh nine. Victory

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Speaker 7: on the road at Phoenix at the Portland Trailblazers rallied

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Speaker 7: from a thirteen point fourth quarter deficit to win at

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Speaker 7: Memphis at overtime one oh seven to one hundred by

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Speaker 7: thirty from Antherny Simons fellas, I'm due for my next

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Speaker 7: dost of verbal blabidine.

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Speaker 3: Back to you guys, Thanks so much, Iilo.

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Speaker 2: We talk about greatness in the professional One guy who's

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Speaker 2: an all time grade at the collegiate level is doing

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Speaker 2: something a bit out of the ordinary, but does it matter?

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Speaker 2: In twenty twenty four, we'll talk about it next.

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Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

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Speaker 2: Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Mike Carbon, Jeff Schwartz with you.

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Speaker 3: Jeff.

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Speaker 2: A short one here that was a great conversation about

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Speaker 2: leveling up, because we'll get back into that with another

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Speaker 2: milestone that's going to get passed later on today. But

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Speaker 2: one of the all time greats at the collegiate level

742
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Speaker 2: leveling up to the pros didn't quite work.

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Speaker 4: So well.

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Speaker 2: We can blame Cleveland. We can blame only so much anymore.

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Speaker 2: The pie chart shows well more Johnny Manziel, But he's

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Speaker 2: now in the news after saying quote, after careful thought

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Speaker 2: and consideration, I'll humbly removing myself from the Heisman Trophy

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Speaker 2: ceremony until Reggie Bush gets his trophy back. I don't

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Speaker 2: know that it has the same weight in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four that such a statement might have been.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Five ten years ago. Hesmand kind of

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Speaker 3: gets lost, I think anymore.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I guess it was Reggie Burs's birthday yesterday. Is

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Speaker 4: that why he made that comment?

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Speaker 3: I didn't I didn't know, did REGI.

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Speaker 4: Maybe, well, I just saw people talking about Reggie Bush yesterday.

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Speaker 4: I thought it was like kind of happy birthday. It

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Speaker 4: was a random dayne That's why I guess that's what

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Speaker 4: he mentioned. He kind of was like a random thing

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Speaker 4: to talk about on a Saturday and be like, hey,

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Speaker 4: you know what heisman I'm out?

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Speaker 3: But did you think about this one?

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Speaker 4: So here's the question, right, is obviously college football is

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Speaker 4: different now, right? College sports? The instable A just announced

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Speaker 4: that they are pausing any ni on investigations because a

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Speaker 4: court in Tennessee basically barred them from doing any of

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Speaker 4: that while they penning appeal of are depending the litigation,

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Speaker 4: I should say, of their sanctions at Tennessee. So they

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Speaker 4: can't even they're not even enforcing any of this anymore,

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Speaker 4: which they weren't doing any ways, to be fair. So

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Speaker 4: if you're not going to enforce it now, why you

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Speaker 4: would enforce old rulings? And the only problem I have

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Speaker 4: with with this idea is that what do you go

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Speaker 4: what do you go back and restore? You know? Because

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Speaker 4: the Reggie Bush, whether you liked it or not, at

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Speaker 4: the time his family and him broke the rules. You

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Speaker 4: might disagree with the rule that they broke, and I

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Speaker 4: certainly disagree with it, I think, and I think the

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Speaker 4: US he was punished way too harshly for that and

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Speaker 4: eventually sort of got they sort of got, you know,

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Speaker 4: some of that some of that back, but nonetheless, the

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Speaker 4: rules were broken at that time. Okay, so do we

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Speaker 4: go back and erase all of Like does SMU get

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Speaker 4: the penalty erased? I don't even know that's.

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Speaker 3: Possible, right, I mean, but you can't unring the bell,

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Speaker 3: so a lot of things.

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Speaker 4: And if you want to say Reggie Bush should get

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Speaker 4: his heisman back because the rules have changed, that's fine

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Speaker 4: with me. In fact, I think the should think he

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Speaker 4: should get his heisman back. That's because what he what

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Speaker 4: happened off of that, nothing would happen on the field.

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Speaker 3: Okay, you still watched him dominate, run people over, so you.

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Speaker 4: Should say I would I played against him. I watched

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Speaker 4: him playing person he should get the heisman back. But

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Speaker 4: my point is like, is are we doing this for

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Speaker 4: everything that happened pre Ni l or just the things

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Speaker 4: that we care about.

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Speaker 2: It's always only the things we care about, correct, especially

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Speaker 2: when it comes to individual player awards versus.

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Speaker 3: What you can do for a team in university.

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Speaker 4: And again I have no I think he should have

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Speaker 4: a heisman back. I'm I'm an agreement, but I'm not

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Speaker 4: in an agreement because he shouldn't have it because nil

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Speaker 4: is allowed now.

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Speaker 2: But Jesse, I mean, think about it. If you get

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Speaker 2: if you restore everything. Then Pete Carroll and the Seahawks

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Speaker 2: never happened because he didn't leave like correct like from

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Speaker 2: the night under that. So I mean, now we're in

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Speaker 2: a Marvel universe. See what you just did? You created

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Speaker 2: a whole cinematic universe.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not you know, that's a I'm gonna move.

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Speaker 4: I know Marvel movies are, though I'm not a biggest

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Speaker 4: movie How was he doomed too? Though everyone seems excited

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Speaker 4: about it.

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Speaker 2: Though Chris was actually just telling me he's having to

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Speaker 2: see it tonight. I'm a little sleep We'll continue that

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Speaker 2: because you know, I am a movie guy. Watched a

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Speaker 2: good one yesterday that tied to soccer. This morning, we'll

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Speaker 2: tell you what that's about. He's Jeff, I'm Mike, and

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Speaker 2: this is Fox Sports Radio. Greetings and welcome in. It's

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Speaker 2: our two of the program. Appreciate you being with us. However,

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Speaker 2: you're getting the sound of my voice. Hopefully it's making

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Speaker 2: you feel a little better about your day hearing it.

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Speaker 2: laying in bed, whatever the case may be. Twenty four

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Speaker 2: new affiliate in New Orleans. Mike Carmen alongside Jeff Schwartz

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Speaker 2: with you and Jeff. I got to start my day

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Speaker 2: with soccer that started across the globe at five am

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Speaker 2: Pacific time.

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Speaker 3: That's what my alarm went off to.

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Speaker 4: I I can't soccer. Look, I'm gonna have to learn

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Speaker 4: by the time the World Cup comes around, the Men's

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Speaker 4: World Cup again, because I work for Fox Sports and

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Speaker 4: we cover the World Cup, I need to know it.

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Speaker 4: But it's just, you know, I I have a certain

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Speaker 4: amount of brain power for sports. You know, Like today,

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Speaker 4: my brain power is focused on how big Joe Alt

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Speaker 4: is from Notre Dame, you know, six eight and a

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Speaker 4: half and just as measurements came out six eight and

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Speaker 4: a half three twenty mimes from Georgia six seven and

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Speaker 4: a half three p forty, like my mind is is

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Speaker 4: focused on weird, obscure offensive line stats. I don't know

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Speaker 4: if I could get around having the capacity of follow

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Speaker 4: more sports, but I will have to learn eventually. So

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Speaker 4: I have not gone up. I've not done the early

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Speaker 4: wake up and watch soccer thing yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I had it for a while. I worked at

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Speaker 2: Yahoo many years ago. We did the official FIFA World

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Speaker 2: Cup website for South Korea and Japan many years ago,

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Speaker 2: and so I was working very closely with a group

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Speaker 2: of engineers and people from the world of FIFA. Let

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Speaker 2: me tell you the engineers, they knew how to party

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Speaker 2: and they got it. People that were their bosses hit

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Speaker 2: every stereotype and every bit that you would want. We

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Speaker 2: even got to a point where they couldn't remember my

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Speaker 2: name was Mike and I blame Mark Harmon and NCIS

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Speaker 2: for this problem. So I basically wrote back, like kindly,

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Speaker 2: I'm not responding to anything else that misaddresses me. Just

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Speaker 2: say dear sir, or don't put a heading in at all,

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Speaker 2: as opposed to disrespecting me.

865
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:57,240
Speaker 4: Who watch this morning.

866
00:42:57,360 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 2: So as a team called Burnley, it's look, it's not

867
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,000
Speaker 2: waking up specifically for them, but it's interesting because we

868
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,040
Speaker 2: were finishing last hour talking about maybe Doom two for

869
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,920
Speaker 2: you on the horizon. Are got Chris Burfett, technical producer

870
00:43:12,000 --> 00:43:14,200
Speaker 2: talking about it. I watched a movie about the town

871
00:43:14,239 --> 00:43:17,120
Speaker 2: of Burnley yesterday coincidentally enough.

872
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,240
Speaker 4: I mean to be fair when I mean like suit,

873
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 4: I mean like when it comes out and I can

874
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:23,080
Speaker 4: watch on a flight I'm.

875
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: Taking, Okay, either a flight or it hits one of

876
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:26,240
Speaker 2: the streamers.

877
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:26,720
Speaker 3: Okay.

878
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,719
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's hard with my schedule to take

879
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:35,279
Speaker 4: out time to watch, like time for myself basically. But uh,

880
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,440
Speaker 4: I will maybe get to it if I if I

881
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,799
Speaker 4: can at some point, but yeah, it's hard. I'm looking

882
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:43,040
Speaker 4: forward to what due. The first one was good, so

883
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,279
Speaker 4: I can't wait to watch the second one. But yeah,

884
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:46,760
Speaker 4: I don't have time for the soccer in the morning,

885
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:49,239
Speaker 4: which I mean again like I'd love to add some

886
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 4: more sports. People that obviously were fans of soccer love

887
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 4: it and it seems like a lot. I mean, I

888
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 4: watched some highlights. That's nine of the MLS game in

889
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 4: Salt Lake class night in the snow. Yes, they had

890
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:02,839
Speaker 4: an orange ball? Was that that just for the snow?

891
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 4: That's a normal ball they played with. That's that for TV?

892
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 2: I'm not one hundred percent sure, Chris Perfect, do you

893
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,360
Speaker 2: have an answer on that one?

894
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,360
Speaker 5: Not their normal ball? I'm going to I will have

895
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 5: to look it up and imagine that's probably a high

896
00:44:14,560 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 5: visibility one. I think the last game I remember before

897
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 5: that in the snow was like it was like a

898
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 5: Conka calf game USA and Costa Rica and they were

899
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,319
Speaker 5: complaining it was in Denver. They were complaining the entire time.

900
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,000
Speaker 5: Didn't have a high visibility ball then, But this might

901
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 5: be something they do.

902
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 4: Check it out the Salt Lake Real Salt Lake Highlights.

903
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,440
Speaker 4: I think you're playing the LAFC last night too, and

904
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 4: it was Yeah, it was in the snow, and that

905
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 4: looks fun.

906
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 5: Apparently they do have an orange ball for high visibility

907
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,280
Speaker 5: when it is snowing like that.

908
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:48,399
Speaker 2: And when it's on Fox, maybe it gets a tail

909
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 2: like the old hockey puck did.

910
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 4: That would be fun?

911
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:51,799
Speaker 3: Yes, how great would that be?

912
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,839
Speaker 2: By the way, the game that was on TROML last

913
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,919
Speaker 2: game that was on Fox wasn't much of a game.

914
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:02,719
Speaker 2: You came from MESSI and stayed, what a blowout that was?

915
00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 1: Man?

916
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 2: That just got ugly and pretty crazy really fast. But yeah,

917
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 2: the long story short was I got deep, deep into soccer.

918
00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:12,200
Speaker 2: Then it went away for a while, and now my

919
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,680
Speaker 2: daughter is actually down to go do an ID camp

920
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,040
Speaker 2: this morning in the rain, so fun and excitement there.

921
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:20,920
Speaker 2: But I watched a movie called The Bank of Dave

922
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: about a guy who challenged the regulations of the banking

923
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: rules in England to start up his own local bank

924
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 2: to help the people of the town to grow the

925
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 2: town and jobs or whatever, and how there was so

926
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 2: much shenanigans to try to knock him down and that

927
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: entire process.

928
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 3: Pretty good movie, Netflix, Quick, Little.

929
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 5: Spin Burly pretty well down in the relegation zone, right, No, exactly,

930
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:52,080
Speaker 5: I'm not saying they're any good, Chris.

931
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: It was more just a I woke up and it's like,

932
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 2: how really weird is this? I went to bed about

933
00:45:57,880 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 2: a half hour after I finished watching the movie. I

934
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 2: wake up and there's the soccer team, which is referenced

935
00:46:02,560 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 2: a couple of times.

936
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 4: Let's go with relegation for college sports.

937
00:46:05,239 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: What do you think I got no problem with that.

938
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 5: Relegation makes watching the bad teams fun, Like Burnley is

939
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,439
Speaker 5: more interesting for me to watch than some other teams

940
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:16,160
Speaker 5: in the Premier League, just because there is a fight

941
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 5: at the end of the season to avoid getting up

942
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:19,120
Speaker 5: down the ladder.

943
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,640
Speaker 3: Yes, the desperation is a real thing.

944
00:46:22,239 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 4: Could you imagine if rivalry weekend like Thanksgiving weekend in

945
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 4: college football, if like half the game, if like not

946
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 4: half the games like Michigan, Ohio State was for relegation, Texas, Oklahoma,

947
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 4: what's for relegation? Can you imagine those Can you imagine

948
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 4: the atmosphere of those games? If those schools like went

949
00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 4: down to the Group of five next season?

950
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: Oh, it's such good, good theater. Right with all the realignment,

951
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: we'll get into the playoff and everything coming up in

952
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: about ten minutes.

953
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:51,880
Speaker 4: So if it happened organ, I hate it. But if

954
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 4: it happened everyone everybody else, I love it. Yeah, it's

955
00:46:56,840 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: topping in Washington, I'd be all for it.

956
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:01,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, as a team that uh, look as a Northwestern

957
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 2: gud Jeff, as the Big Ten started shuffling around and

958
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 2: with education maybe not numb like anywhere on the radar

959
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 2: of one through one hundred of what you need teams

960
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 2: around because look, I'll call what it is. For a

961
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,120
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of years, it seemed Northwest was

962
00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 2: around to uh to help the conference GPA and standing in.

963
00:47:21,400 --> 00:47:24,640
Speaker 4: A lot of you get your seven wins last year.

964
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,560
Speaker 3: Though, oh yeah, you know last year was an amazing

965
00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 3: run back.

966
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,279
Speaker 2: But you know, going back to the time when I

967
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 2: was there, a point shaving scandal my junior year and

968
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: then all of a sudden, you know, or I should

969
00:47:35,920 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: say my senior year, and then all of a sudden

970
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 2: the next year they're in the Rose Bowl, uh and

971
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:41,120
Speaker 2: all of that fun stuff.

972
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 3: But you know a lot of losing.

973
00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: In between, and they got they got blown out by

974
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 2: USC and Keyshawn Johnson ran all over was one of

975
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: those great demonstrations.

976
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,719
Speaker 3: Of uh speed, uh just over the top.

977
00:47:55,760 --> 00:47:57,720
Speaker 2: We did have a guy who was a really good

978
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: uh cornerback who uh couldn't lay off the weed.

979
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 4: I mean the times have not chase no.

980
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 3: But back then that meant he didn't.

981
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:10,320
Speaker 4: Play oh okay, okay.

982
00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 2: Well no, because he might have been interesting trying to

983
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:15,720
Speaker 2: see if he could have held his own against these squads.

984
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 2: And then you know, he got a sniff at the

985
00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: NFL eventually, but uh, you know that was a big

986
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: run there.

987
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 4: He was a.

988
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:25,200
Speaker 2: Pretty big player for us. My job actually in college

989
00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,480
Speaker 2: at times was to make sure he got to class.

990
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:28,960
Speaker 4: Ah babysitter.

991
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 3: Well I did a little of that now and again

992
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 3: for guys.

993
00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 4: But every team needs us so well.

994
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: You know, try to try to help keep the line moving.

995
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,640
Speaker 2: I cared about so when nobody else did so. I'm

996
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,240
Speaker 2: having a blast with you. You're a wizard, thank you,

997
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,240
Speaker 2: You're you're a man with a lot of the interests

998
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,479
Speaker 2: that are the same. I'll get you into more bad

999
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:51,920
Speaker 2: movies over time, There's no question about that. But we

1000
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:54,240
Speaker 2: talked college athletics. Let's let's stay here for a moment.

1001
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 2: We talked to Lebron a few minutes ago. Uh and

1002
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: the forty thousand milestone today, Caitlin Clark come, it's a

1003
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 2: big Fox event socially and on digital TIKTC, all of

1004
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:09,359
Speaker 2: these things, the Caitlin Clark cameras and everything else they're

1005
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 2: doing for this game against Ohio State. And eighteen points

1006
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,560
Speaker 2: from Pete Marivich and a lot of debate over the

1007
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 2: course of the week, Jeff, you can hear it in

1008
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:21,800
Speaker 2: some of the promos for the network, people just finding

1009
00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: ways to pick apart what she's been able to do

1010
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: in this process. It's been a very strange, like we

1011
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,240
Speaker 2: don't normally get to that level of hate that quickly

1012
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: in sports, particularly for college athletics, like for the pros.

1013
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: I mean it happened quickly, maybe an accelerated timeframe. Warriors

1014
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,360
Speaker 2: changed the game. This is great.

1015
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, we hate the Warriors, We're done with that. And Lebron.

1016
00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 2: It took twenty years for a lot of folks, and

1017
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 2: maybe it's the I'm tired of it.

1018
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 3: I want to see a new story.

1019
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 2: But for Caitlin Clark, it seemed like, folks, all right,

1020
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: this doesn't count because the three point line didn't exist.

1021
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 2: This didn't count because this guy did it in three years. Like,

1022
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 2: can we not appreciate stuff for what it is anymore?

1023
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,200
Speaker 4: You know? I mentioned that I don't have the bandwidth

1024
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:09,200
Speaker 4: sometimes to add like more supports to my life. I

1025
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 4: just just it's just hard to do that. I don't

1026
00:50:11,480 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 4: have the bandwidth to be a hater like that. Like

1027
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 4: I I certainly can hate like my Organ's rivals, and

1028
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 4: I hate the Dodgers. I'm a Giants fan. But to

1029
00:50:21,160 --> 00:50:25,959
Speaker 4: just hate on Kaitlyn Clark's accomplishments at all, just it's

1030
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:29,000
Speaker 4: really blow me, Like it's not worth my time. I

1031
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,680
Speaker 4: don't I don't understand why anyone would would even want

1032
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 4: to do that. What what? What about Kaitlyn Clark and

1033
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:39,640
Speaker 4: her performances over the last couple of years I have

1034
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 4: have made you want to say, oh, she's not great,

1035
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,200
Speaker 4: she doesn't want a championship, Like what a dumby, What

1036
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:47,200
Speaker 4: a dumb argument? I mean, we don't make the argument

1037
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:51,560
Speaker 4: for anyone else or talking about Clark, like, yeah, LSU

1038
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,000
Speaker 4: is better than her. They have a better team in

1039
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:55,600
Speaker 4: South Carolina is a better team than Iowa. What does

1040
00:50:55,640 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 4: that matter? Who does that? Why does that matter to

1041
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:00,319
Speaker 4: discussion at all? About it? Which she's her greatness, She's

1042
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,959
Speaker 4: obviously one of the best cospassible players of all time,

1043
00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:05,239
Speaker 4: men or women's. And it's like totally fine to say that.

1044
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 4: I don't think that's a problem. It's not a hot

1045
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:10,319
Speaker 4: take or anything. Why can't we just appreciate what she's

1046
00:51:10,360 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 4: done rather than find ways to hate on her. It's

1047
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 4: like the the mental bandwidth to be a hater for

1048
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 4: this just seems like so not worth it. She's putting

1049
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 4: up record numbers for viewership, and yeah they're not. I

1050
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:28,480
Speaker 4: was not win the championship this year. That's fine. It

1051
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 4: doesn't change anything. She's done, her accomplishment, It doesn't change

1052
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:35,399
Speaker 4: it her maybe her future success. In WNBA, I saw

1053
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 4: some some really silly arguments about her nil decision going

1054
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,319
Speaker 4: going pro and how this would matter to like you know,

1055
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 4: her nil decision. I mean, her sponsors are still going

1056
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 4: to follow her.

1057
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: Seems like that right not to mention the at a

1058
00:51:48,719 --> 00:51:51,880
Speaker 2: minimum seventy six thousand dollars base salary.

1059
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 4: I mean we have what's crazy is like sabrinian Escu,

1060
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 4: you know, organ form, organ start organ now in the

1061
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 4: w n B A F at the Liberty. She did

1062
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,839
Speaker 4: the other thing with Steph Curry. Right, she has her

1063
00:52:04,840 --> 00:52:09,560
Speaker 4: own shoe with Nike, Like your endorsements can continue after college,

1064
00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:11,120
Speaker 4: and she was before the n I L A R

1065
00:52:11,160 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 4: at Oregon.

1066
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 2: Anyways, Wow, she was unfortunately two years too early because yeah,

1067
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 2: I mean and she was every bit that well yeah, the.

1068
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 4: In the COVID year sort of robbed organ of that

1069
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 4: the championship opportunity with her. But you know, like you

1070
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:28,400
Speaker 4: can still like Camlin Clock's still going to have endorsements

1071
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 4: that I think she's a state farm in my right,

1072
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 4: that's not going away because she's a w n B A.

1073
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:35,279
Speaker 4: She canna have a shoe deal with whoever wants to

1074
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 4: give her a shoe deal. I was in uh in

1075
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 4: Dick's Sporting Goods. They're not a sponsor, but I was

1076
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 4: in six Sporting goods. That's right. And I, uh, there

1077
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,680
Speaker 4: was a display for Sabrina's shoes. I was with my daughter.

1078
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,600
Speaker 4: We were picking out, uh, picking out some she needs

1079
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 4: some shoes and some softball stuff. And I said, I said, hey, honey, look,

1080
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Speaker 4: uh there's her names. Look it's a there's a woman's

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00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,640
Speaker 4: basketball shoe a women's Nike show. And like she got

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00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,480
Speaker 4: so excited. She didn't care that it was who it

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00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,560
Speaker 4: was and what not. Like there's this whole market out there.

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00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 4: Taylor Clark's gonna have a piece of that market. It

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00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 4: doesn't matter if she's an Iowa a WNBA. I think

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00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 4: it's so silly that that she's that all of a sudden,

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Speaker 4: these the endorsements end now because she moved on to

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00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,000
Speaker 4: be professional, when that's not all the case. I don't

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Speaker 4: understand why people are making that argument.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just because she doesn't collect money from the swarm

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Speaker 2: doesn't mean that there's that that's the Iowa Collective for

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00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,840
Speaker 2: those unaware, the old thing they'd done for football for

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00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:33,320
Speaker 2: years where they all come in, you know, bunch together

1094
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:37,600
Speaker 2: and all. But it's the idea of her moving into

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00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 2: this next phase. There's companies galore, and what she's done

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00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: for women's basketball. It's like all the people that were

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00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,760
Speaker 2: mad that Taylor Swift got involved with with Travis Kelcey

1098
00:53:47,800 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 2: and was at games, look at the ratings, look at

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00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 2: the dollars and cents that it made for everybody, and

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00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 2: how many people were able to get their daughters to

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Speaker 2: sit through maybe a quarter of a football game.

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Speaker 4: Back to my second year old body. She was all

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Speaker 4: on too Swift.

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00:54:01,360 --> 00:54:03,280
Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like it's a very real

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00:54:03,400 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 2: thing and the economic impact undeniable. Yeah, she got into

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00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:12,080
Speaker 2: it a bit with Angel reeseon company ooh, a couple

1107
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 2: of players argued and kind of taunted each other on

1108
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Speaker 2: a court.

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Speaker 3: What a terrible thing.

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Speaker 2: And then after the fact, like she signs every autograph,

1111
00:54:19,480 --> 00:54:23,040
Speaker 2: takes every picture. When they don't play well defensively they're

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Speaker 2: twenty five and four.

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Speaker 3: She rails on it. It's like, yeah, yea, I scored

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Speaker 3: thirty points. I don't care.

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Speaker 2: We almost lost because we couldn't close out defensively. Again,

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00:54:31,719 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 2: Like she gets mad about those kind of things, like

1117
00:54:34,200 --> 00:54:37,640
Speaker 2: isn't that everything you want in your athletes?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 2: Like all positives as you siphoned it out and the

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Speaker 2: level of negativity.

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Speaker 3: I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: I just don't have the bandwidth on that one. Look,

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Speaker 2: I've certainly got things that can get incensed about Cubs,

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00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:56,080
Speaker 2: you know, to your Dodger point, But it's it's the

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Speaker 2: idea for her. I mean, you're hitting this monster milestone

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Speaker 2: and the world of sports. It's been the number one

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Speaker 2: thing for weeks, right outside of the NFL and the

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl and everything and the aforementioned Taylor Swift. Caitlin

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00:55:11,840 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 2: Clark and her assault of this record book has been

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Speaker 2: one of the biggest stories that we've covered across the

1131
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 2: sports landscape. So why go negative about what she here

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00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 2: may not do in a w NBA uniform.

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Speaker 4: It's also just like she's just highly entertaining to watch.

1134
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,080
Speaker 4: It's so interesting to me. So I did Packed All

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Speaker 4: Radio for five years before the pact A decided to

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Speaker 4: just implode and disappear. And you know, part of doing

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Speaker 4: pact A Radio was was covering women's college basketball. The

1138
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Speaker 4: pactroll has been good for so many years with with

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Speaker 4: Stanford and Tarvan Review and you know what even this year,

1140
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Speaker 4: what UCLA and USC and Oregon with Sabrina and Ruthie

1141
00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:55,600
Speaker 4: and and Sasu Sabi and the unfortunately COVID year they

1142
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Speaker 4: were number on the country I think at that time.

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Speaker 4: And so I've watched more women's college basketball than I

1144
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 4: thought I ever would in my life over the last

1145
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 4: couple of years. And I'll tell you what, man, it's

1146
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:11,120
Speaker 4: funny that the people that complain about the NBA being

1147
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 4: you know, you know, to show body right, like not

1148
00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:19,359
Speaker 4: enough fundamentals, enough defense, not enough passing, like just sort

1149
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:21,600
Speaker 4: of the things that the people can plain about NBA.

1150
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:25,160
Speaker 4: Right the casual fan complains about it, Go watch women's

1151
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,080
Speaker 4: college basketball. You get all that, and yet you will

1152
00:56:27,080 --> 00:56:29,839
Speaker 4: not watch a second of it. Like all the things

1153
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 4: you complain about with with sports and sort of the

1154
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:36,319
Speaker 4: pros at times, none of those are go watch it.

1155
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 4: Go watch Iowa today and go watch the way that

1156
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 4: game is playing against against Ohio State, both ranked teams

1157
00:56:42,080 --> 00:56:44,360
Speaker 4: by the way, in the top ten. Everything you complain

1158
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:48,719
Speaker 4: about is going it is going to be fixed. If

1159
00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,840
Speaker 4: you watch women's college basketball, high level women college basketball

1160
00:56:51,840 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 4: is everything that you complain about. It is fundamentally sound.

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00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 4: They passed the ball, they rebound, they box out, they

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00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 4: play defense. It's not all about shoe the three pointers.

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Speaker 4: Everything you complain about and the same people that complained

1164
00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:06,880
Speaker 4: about it will not actually watch the product that they

1165
00:57:06,920 --> 00:57:09,080
Speaker 4: actually want to watch. It's it's just, you know, just

1166
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Speaker 4: just what it is.

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Speaker 2: The echo chamber to complain, to complain at Jeff Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: to here on Fox Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Mike Carbon alongside Jeff Schwartz. Thanks to

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Speaker 2: Shay and to Chris and Isaac for making a sound

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Speaker 2: so pretty this fine morning. Thanks to you all wherever

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Speaker 2: you're at giving us a few minutes of your Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: He's Jeff Schwartz, eight years in the league, the Bear

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Speaker 2: Bets Podcast, as well as Jeff Schwartz is smarter than

1185
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Speaker 2: you doing his offensive line grading and work today. Did

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Speaker 2: you guys try to, you know, step on the scale

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Speaker 2: a little differently. You know, we get an extra pound

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Speaker 2: or two if you're an interior alignment.

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Speaker 4: Interesting is a couple of years ago they decided to

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Speaker 4: weigh in the guys on running day because we used

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Speaker 4: to weigh in on the second day we were there

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Speaker 4: at the combine. And obviously you can have a little

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Speaker 4: weight manipulation if you weigh in on let's say, you know,

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Speaker 4: you weigh in on you know, two days beforehand. Like

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Speaker 4: for me, I need to lose weight, so I basically,

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Speaker 4: you know, just didn't eat a lot of food for

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Speaker 4: a while. Weighed in and was much lower than I

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Speaker 4: probably ran at. I think i'd waited at three thirty

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Speaker 4: one the combine and I probably was closer to three forty,

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Speaker 4: and so I worked out, you know at three forty

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Speaker 4: a couple days later. And you know that happens to

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Speaker 4: a lot of players, right they add or gain weight

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Speaker 4: depending on where they want to weigh in. But that's

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Speaker 4: not ideal for your actually working out. You know, if

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Speaker 4: you're a wide receiver and you know, you know, you

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Speaker 4: need to be at You know, they'd rather you play

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Speaker 4: at one eighty five, right, and you weigh at one

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Speaker 4: eighty five, but you work out at one seventy eight.

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Speaker 4: By the time you actually work out, you know you

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Speaker 4: might run a faster forty You might your jillis might

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Speaker 4: be better. And so now they weigh in the guy's

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Speaker 4: day of. So this morning we get the offensive line

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Speaker 4: weigh ins and we're going to see them work out

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Speaker 4: later this afternoon. So you can't gain the system anymore. Well,

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Speaker 4: you know it's five pounds, you know, maybe eight pounds

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Speaker 4: depending on but you know it can make a difference

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Speaker 4: in running a better time.

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Speaker 3: No, they're right, give you a better first step.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so they want to make sure you avoid it now,

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Speaker 4: So so everyone weighs in now again day of. So

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Speaker 4: they weigh in this morning and the offensive line will

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Speaker 4: get their drills going in a couple hours. So it

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Speaker 4: be fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: I still love this process, think I know it's changing,

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Speaker 2: and we talked about it at the top of the show.

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Speaker 2: you'll see this show Fox Sports Sunday Schwartz and Harmon

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Speaker 2: posted right after we get off the air, done by

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Speaker 2: our guy Share, our executive producer. Now, it's it's the

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Speaker 2: fun process and trying to pick out you know, sleepers,

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Speaker 2: and everybody's doing that off the last couple of days,

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Speaker 2: certainly Jem. And then you're doing the deep dive and

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Speaker 2: film work like rudimentary stuff, right, A lot of folks,

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Speaker 2: you know, the amateur eyes put on it for a

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Speaker 2: couple of days. I don't pretend to learn anything great

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Speaker 2: on my own or make any grandiose assessments other than

1241
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Speaker 2: that guy's really fast. Yeah, that guy should be a

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Speaker 2: like yesterday, right, Worthy runs the crazy time and says

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Speaker 2: it was slow, runs it faster, sets a new record,

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Speaker 2: and immediately everybody either starts photoshopping him into a Dolphins

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Speaker 2: or Raiders uniform.

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Speaker 4: Well, the Raiders so many years, that's obviously how they drafted.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a little different now. But again, like

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Speaker 4: the thing about the times and why it's important or

1249
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Speaker 4: not important, is when you go watch Xavier Worthies film.

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Speaker 4: For example, Xavier Worthy of Films who missed It, set

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Speaker 4: a record last night and he ran a four to

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Speaker 4: two one forty, which is the fastest forty we've ever recorded.

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Speaker 4: A four to two two was the fastest up until

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Speaker 4: that point. And so he runs this this four to

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Speaker 4: two one. It's incredible, right, it's cool, and guys praying

1256
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Speaker 4: records a combine. But the thing about it is that

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Speaker 4: he's fast on film already, so that just all that

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Speaker 4: does is is checked the box off of like, okay,

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Speaker 4: well he's fast on film. He ran a fast forty.

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Speaker 4: Well weird how that works the It would have been

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Speaker 4: a problem if he ran a slow forty four to

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Speaker 4: six when you watch him for all these years run

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Speaker 4: by everyone on the film, and that that's that's the

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Speaker 4: point of the combine, right. The point of the combine

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Speaker 4: is too, is to make sure that what's the physical

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Speaker 4: point of the combine, to make sure that what you

1267
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Speaker 4: see on film lines up with what with how these

1268
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Speaker 4: guys run in their in their physical testing. You know.

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Speaker 4: Another example of this in the opposite direction a little

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Speaker 4: bit is estimated running back from Notre Dame. He ran

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Speaker 4: a slow forty for running back, so I think it

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Speaker 4: was a four to seven to two. But you watch

1273
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Speaker 4: him on film, he kind of runs by everybody. You know,

1274
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Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, for example, it's a quarterback. It's not really

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Speaker 4: the best example, not a fast forty. They've been joking

1276
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Speaker 4: with them all week because most because he said, please

1277
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Speaker 4: don't overlay my forty with anyone else's. It's forty times

1278
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Speaker 4: not breaking the sound barrier. You know. However, I watched

1279
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Speaker 4: nearly every Patrick Mahomes play of his career. No one ever,

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Speaker 4: no one, no one ever catches him when he runs

1281
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Speaker 4: away from them, you know. Yeah, So you always have

1282
01:02:47,640 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 4: to look at some of these these numbers and with

1283
01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:51,680
Speaker 4: sort of not the grain assault, but just the idea

1284
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Speaker 4: that the film matters in the end. You can supplement

1285
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:00,320
Speaker 4: the film with what you see at the combine. But again,

1286
01:03:00,360 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 4: what's gonna win or lose games and what's gonna help

1287
01:03:03,000 --> 01:03:05,640
Speaker 4: you evaluate these players is what you see on film,

1288
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 4: and I go back to that being the most important thing. However,

1289
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,520
Speaker 4: for a casual fan, this week is a lot of

1290
01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 4: fun because you get to see players you've watched or

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Speaker 4: you want your team to draft, do the drills, and

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Speaker 4: again there are things that these drills are easily digestible.

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Speaker 4: Run a forty time, run a short shuttle, catch the football.

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Speaker 4: They are things that are easily digestible and people can

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Speaker 4: watch them and understand what they are. So it's a

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Speaker 4: fun week for the players, even I mean players in fifteen.

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Speaker 4: I say, I don't think it truly matters that much.

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Speaker 4: I would argue this point that that a bad time

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Speaker 4: is far worse than a good time. You know, like

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Speaker 4: overWe doing something worse overways outweigh anything you do good

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Speaker 4: at the combine.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anything you do that creates a question mark instead

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01:03:53,560 --> 01:03:58,600
Speaker 2: of a check mark certainly problematic. And you have to appreciate.

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Speaker 2: I mean, even though he's a Washington a Doda doing

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Speaker 2: the drills and then wouldn't leave the three cone drill.

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Speaker 3: Until he hit a mark that he was happy with.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm kind of maybe a little bit of a

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Speaker 4: curubudget I whatever. Like you know, like I love that

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Speaker 4: the drive and I love how he wants to get

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Speaker 4: better and wants to get the best time. But I

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Speaker 4: mean that's just it's kind of inconsequential in the moment.

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Speaker 2: In the end, you know, it's the uh, he's the

1313
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Speaker 2: only guy out there really doing all the extras.

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Speaker 3: It was an opportunity to shine.

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Speaker 4: Look like we already know that he works hard, you know.

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Speaker 4: Like that's the thing about it. I guesn't change really

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Speaker 4: much of how we of what we know about him

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Speaker 4: because we I watched him play for years and everything

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Speaker 4: you hear from the Washington staff is about, you know,

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Speaker 4: positive about him. I think it's awesome, but I think

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Speaker 4: his I think his agent would tell him, don't do that.

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Speaker 4: It's not gonna change his draft stock. In fact, it

1323
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Speaker 4: can only probably hurt him in the end if he

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Speaker 4: it's hurt or something. But that's that stuff to me

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Speaker 4: doesn't impress me that much. I maybe I'm Jada a

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Speaker 4: little bit, but I don't know. Wow. I like his

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Speaker 4: film and what he and what his coach have said

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Speaker 4: about him more than I like that he'd stayed extra

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Speaker 4: to try to break a record.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think it goes ohes to the point you

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Speaker 2: were making about casuals versus other Right, everybody that's affiliated

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Speaker 2: with the NFL going through this process, and guys like

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Speaker 2: yourself that break down film, no know all those things.

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Speaker 2: This helps him win headlines for the casuals coming out well.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, if I don't know, but I don't

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Speaker 4: think he did it for that reason. No, No, I

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Speaker 4: think generally because he wanted to. It was six six, right,

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Speaker 4: you want to hit six six?

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Speaker 3: Was that?

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Speaker 4: Was that a record for him or just a record

1341
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 4: in general? I forget what I think it reason for him,

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Speaker 4: the reason why he wanted to do that. Again, I

1343
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 4: want to. I love the dry and the want and

1344
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 4: all of those are great factors to have. But again,

1345
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Speaker 4: we've we've seen this on his film though you know,

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Speaker 4: we've seen him play this hard, play this well, go

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Speaker 4: the extra mile in his film that I don't I

1348
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Speaker 4: didn't need him to do this to feeling different about

1349
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Speaker 4: him as a prospect. I already think. I already think

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Speaker 4: he's number one. I would, I think, to me's wide

1351
01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:25,000
Speaker 4: receiver one. I like Marvin Harrison, and maybe Marv Harrison

1352
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:27,840
Speaker 4: could do a few more things in the football field,

1353
01:06:28,440 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 4: but hard pressed to find me anyone who played like

1354
01:06:32,120 --> 01:06:33,840
Speaker 4: Rome did last year that position and what he can

1355
01:06:33,880 --> 01:06:35,960
Speaker 4: do physically and his ability to win fifty to fifty

1356
01:06:35,960 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 4: balls and all things that really matter to that position.

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Speaker 4: I love Roman. This does this work out yesterday? Him

1358
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Speaker 4: being extra to me doesn't change any of that, you know.

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Speaker 2: No, I get that absolutely at Jeff Schwartz, where you

1360
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 2: find and he's evaluating all of this as we roll

1361
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,960
Speaker 2: towards the draft. The Bare Bets podcast obviously all the

1362
01:06:55,000 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 2: information you need there. Check it out his latest socials there.

1363
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:01,520
Speaker 2: I find me over at Swollen Dome with all my

1364
01:07:01,600 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 2: pithy commentary on the world of sports and sports entertainment.

1365
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: A lot of wrestling showing up on my feed anymore,

1366
01:07:08,680 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 2: because well I've fully immersed myself into twelve year old

1367
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,880
Speaker 2: Mike Harmon once again. But you know, one of the

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Speaker 2: other things going on in the collegiate world, Jeff, we

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01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,400
Speaker 2: alluded to it before we can get into it deeper.

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Speaker 2: This not only we haven't even gotten to the twelve

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Speaker 2: team college playoff and seen that in action. No, no, no,

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Speaker 2: Now we're talking about fourteen model that includes three automatic

1373
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 2: spots for the Big ten sec and two for the

1374
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Speaker 2: ACC and Big twelve and a lot of handwringing and it's.

1375
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Speaker 3: Not fair, et cetera.

1376
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 2: Like you got two conferences that stir the drink that

1377
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Speaker 2: we've been slotting for.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know, what would we call it? Creating

1379
01:07:48,320 --> 01:07:49,200
Speaker 3: their own world?

1380
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Speaker 2: For a long time, so you know, as part of negotiations,

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01:07:54,640 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: when you've got leverage and you've got all those big

1382
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 2: important teams across the board, yeah, you're gonna try to

1383
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:04,600
Speaker 2: exert some force in some power. Doesn't mean that that

1384
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:06,920
Speaker 2: doesn't change over time, but where you're at right now

1385
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 2: and you're negotiating for it, I can't. I can't blame

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01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 2: the commissioners of their respective conferences for pushing for as

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Speaker 2: much as they can get.

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Speaker 4: So for those who might have missed it, we've we

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Speaker 4: have you know, we've gone to twelve team college twelve playoff.

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Speaker 4: We actually haven't had one season of that yet.

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Speaker 3: No, it's not even enacted yet. It's all been run

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Speaker 3: in simulation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, there's areader discussion about the Big ten and the

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Speaker 4: SEC who now obviously are much larger conferences, and there's

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Speaker 4: a possiblay they even expand even more, want to move

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Speaker 4: from twelve teams to fourteen teams. In that format, two

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Speaker 4: teams have to have a buy and they would like

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Speaker 4: the buy to be automatic for them, of course, and

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Speaker 4: because of their members they have and who I mean,

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Speaker 4: I really understand the pushback on that, you know, Mike Gundy,

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Speaker 4: I don't know if we have an audio. Mike Gundy said,

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Speaker 4: basically like the unpressed and sport, it's it's not you know,

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01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 4: we know we have buys in the NFL, but his

1404
01:09:04,640 --> 01:09:07,160
Speaker 4: point is that we have bats she buys in baseball.

1405
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:10,800
Speaker 4: Now too, is that it's not predetermined for the season

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Speaker 4: who gets to buy. In this situation, it would be

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Speaker 4: predetermined that a team in the Big ten and a

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Speaker 4: team in the SEC, or maybe two in each comfort

1409
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 4: two you know, two and zero whatever, they have a

1410
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,320
Speaker 4: buy no matter what happens. This point is like, what

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01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 4: if we're the best team in the country, we don't

1412
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 4: get to buy the steam Big ten get to buy.

1413
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 4: So I understand the pushback. I understand to push back

1414
01:09:34,160 --> 01:09:36,559
Speaker 4: on all of it. To me, I just, I just

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Speaker 4: we don't need fourteen, We don't even need twelve. Can

1416
01:09:40,400 --> 01:09:42,880
Speaker 4: we at least have two years to twelve or before

1417
01:09:43,080 --> 01:09:46,559
Speaker 4: to fourteen? I who is asking for this? Man? Like,

1418
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 4: who is asking for and to me? In the end,

1419
01:09:49,400 --> 01:09:54,519
Speaker 4: this is the first sort of step in the Big

1420
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:58,000
Speaker 4: ten and SEC eventually leaving and forming their own their

1421
01:09:58,040 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 4: own thing. That's what this feels like, the first sort

1422
01:10:00,520 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 4: of step in that process of way. Hey, we didn't

1423
01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 4: get our way in the playoffs. That's for our own playoffs.

1424
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:09,799
Speaker 2: And Suddy Dyke's was saying giving them the automatic bids

1425
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,840
Speaker 2: like saying, well, the Cowboys are popular, so they get

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01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 2: a first round by as well, So yeah, it's the

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01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,200
Speaker 2: first round by. Thing is is curious, but automatic bids,

1428
01:10:20,840 --> 01:10:22,800
Speaker 2: like you're trying to go where the eyeballs are, and

1429
01:10:22,800 --> 01:10:27,679
Speaker 2: to your point, it's television contracts and where you can

1430
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:33,080
Speaker 2: keep expanding that reach and the dollars and cents. Right, So,

1431
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 2: assuming your SEC and big ten coffers continue to fill,

1432
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:41,479
Speaker 2: especially with the addition of the squads as you mentioned,

1433
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: and all the realignment, that this is the the next

1434
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:49,280
Speaker 2: iteration before we've even got proof of concept to what

1435
01:10:49,360 --> 01:10:52,760
Speaker 2: I think is the inevitability of those two conferences, you know,

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Speaker 2: creating their own super league.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, we keep watching college sports. It's

1438
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Speaker 4: been college football. The ratings are through the roof college football, NFL,

1439
01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 4: we couldnsume football such a high level. I do wonder

1440
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:16,120
Speaker 4: at some point, if, especially college football, there just is

1441
01:11:16,160 --> 01:11:19,839
Speaker 4: a pushback in the fan bases with all these changes.

1442
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:26,200
Speaker 4: I would say probably no until or if you know,

1443
01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,160
Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I don't think there's gonna be

1444
01:11:29,400 --> 01:11:33,360
Speaker 4: a real pushback to where people stop watching and TV

1445
01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:35,760
Speaker 4: networks aside to change it and go back to what

1446
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:40,679
Speaker 4: it was. We might see a pushback with Olympic Sports

1447
01:11:40,720 --> 01:11:44,240
Speaker 4: as far as okay, let's sort of get back to

1448
01:11:45,320 --> 01:11:49,080
Speaker 4: playing regional kind of regional schedules. But I don't know

1449
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,840
Speaker 4: what's going to change, honestly, and what could be so

1450
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:56,640
Speaker 4: bad that people, you know, stop watching college sports to

1451
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,280
Speaker 4: where the TV networks feel like we got to go

1452
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 4: back to the old system.

1453
01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:01,559
Speaker 2: No, I would agree with you, all right. The machine

1454
01:12:01,640 --> 01:12:04,320
Speaker 2: keeps rolling, Genie and going back in the bottle. It's

1455
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:06,519
Speaker 2: all just a matter of how you mold it from there,

1456
01:12:06,720 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 2: because it's not like you're going back to the Reggie

1457
01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:11,479
Speaker 2: Bush comments, see where it's all the throwbacks and circles

1458
01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:13,960
Speaker 2: of life. It's like, you can't unring those bells, right.

1459
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,599
Speaker 2: You can't just restore us to that time where that

1460
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:19,920
Speaker 2: didn't happen, or the death penalty didn't happen to other teams,

1461
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Speaker 2: et cetera. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Mike Carmen. This is

1462
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. Time to kick it

1463
01:12:25,120 --> 01:12:28,360
Speaker 2: over to our guy, Isaac Loewenkron. Let's see if he's

1464
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 2: had his next shot of blaberdeine.

1465
01:12:33,680 --> 01:12:39,799
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, ruble broomble blaberdein. It's taking the broadcasting world

1466
01:12:39,960 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 7: by storm. I have to ramp up my dosage from

1467
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 7: the initial dose to a second tier dose and then

1468
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,719
Speaker 7: heartman level. Anyway, we start in the NFL, where ESPD

1469
01:12:49,760 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 7: reports that the Miami Dolphins are unlikely to use the

1470
01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:56,320
Speaker 7: franchise tag on defensive tackle Christian Wilkins, which would make

1471
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Speaker 7: him an unrestricted free agent. Wilkins coming off a career

1472
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Speaker 7: high nine sacks. In twenty twenty three the NBA Saturday

1473
01:13:03,360 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 7: Night Lebron James became the first to hit forty thousand

1474
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:10,519
Speaker 7: career points, but it came in a loss one twenty

1475
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,759
Speaker 7: four to one fourteen at home to Denver.

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Speaker 8: I'm never thinking about a milestone when I'm out there battling,

1477
01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:18,600
Speaker 8: but when it happens, obviously we acknowledge it.

1478
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,720
Speaker 4: And you know, obviously.

1479
01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:25,200
Speaker 8: Much respecting, much loyalty to the Laker fan base for

1480
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 8: showing me that love during the timeout and.

1481
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:30,559
Speaker 4: Being the first player to do something.

1482
01:13:30,560 --> 01:13:32,680
Speaker 8: It's pretty cool in this league because you just know

1483
01:13:32,760 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 8: the history, you know the grace that's come to the

1484
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 8: Leeds and then you see some of the greats on

1485
01:13:36,200 --> 01:13:36,720
Speaker 8: the Florida night.

1486
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 7: It was just great to compete one of those greats.

1487
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 7: Nikole Yokiccher finished with thirty five points, ten rebounds, and

1488
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 7: seven assists. Houston's Jalen Green scored thirty four is. The

1489
01:13:45,400 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 7: Rockets won at Phoenix one eighteen to one oh nine.

1490
01:13:48,760 --> 01:13:52,080
Speaker 7: At the Portland Trailblazers, rallied from a thirteen point fourth

1491
01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:55,559
Speaker 7: quarter deficit to win at Memphis at overtime, one o

1492
01:13:55,720 --> 01:13:57,280
Speaker 7: seven to one hundred.

1493
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Speaker 3: Mike and Jet back to you.

1494
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,760
Speaker 2: Appreciate you, Ilo, Isaac Longground where you find him? And

1495
01:14:01,800 --> 01:14:05,040
Speaker 2: you said Hartman's names three times. I feared we might

1496
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 2: have a candy man like effect. And then I look

1497
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 2: over and he's staring at it over your shoulder.

1498
01:14:10,360 --> 01:14:13,120
Speaker 7: I set up roadblocks on the local freeways to keep

1499
01:14:13,200 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 7: him from getting here this early. But it didn't work,

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01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 7: didn't Hartman, I am here, get out of it.

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01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 3: Like the Candy Man or Beetlejuice. Jeff.

1502
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:22,639
Speaker 4: He's never leaving us.

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01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 3: I think he's moved in.

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01:14:25,080 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 2: I gotta go look for where he's squatting on the

1505
01:14:27,479 --> 01:14:30,320
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio premises at Jeff Schwartz where you find

1506
01:14:30,360 --> 01:14:32,080
Speaker 2: him on Twitter, Find me over at Swollen Dome.

1507
01:14:32,200 --> 01:14:34,559
Speaker 3: Coming up next, an owner says he's all in.

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01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:37,559
Speaker 2: Nobody's really sure what he means based on a move

1509
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 2: that he's made Alan general verbage.

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01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,040
Speaker 4: We'll talk about that next on Fox.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Sunday, Mike

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01:14:47,640 --> 01:14:51,880
Speaker 3: Carmen alongside Jeff Schwartz with you here. Coming up in

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Speaker 3: about ten minutes.

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01:14:52,680 --> 01:14:55,240
Speaker 2: We'll start getting into some of the particulars coming out

1515
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,800
Speaker 2: of combine the rumor, conjecture, speculation, what happens with justin

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01:14:58,840 --> 01:15:03,040
Speaker 2: fields some of the other they're veteran quarterbacks. But one

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01:15:04,040 --> 01:15:06,400
Speaker 2: team owner and well, I don't even need to say

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01:15:06,439 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 2: his name, because how many team owners do we know

1519
01:15:08,439 --> 01:15:10,000
Speaker 2: in the National Football League.

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01:15:10,040 --> 01:15:12,400
Speaker 3: Says his squad is all in.

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01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:14,640
Speaker 2: Jeff, I want to see if you can dissect what

1522
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:15,759
Speaker 2: he's trying to tell us here.

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01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 3: Well, the one hold on here he is, Oh, sorry, okay, Yeah,

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01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 3: here's Jerry.

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01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:33,360
Speaker 9: Oh I've drafted quarterbacks for the future. Okay, would be

1526
01:15:33,479 --> 01:15:39,240
Speaker 9: reluctant to do that this year. That's an example, right,

1527
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,960
Speaker 9: how does use the top pick for use our first

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01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:48,600
Speaker 9: pick for quarterback this year? For the future if you

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01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,960
Speaker 9: had an opportunity there you are twenty four greateous thing

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01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,720
Speaker 9: since asked Creams. He's sitting there. I'd be reluctant to

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01:15:55,720 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 9: do that this year. Let's call it all into this year.

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01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:03,960
Speaker 2: There you go, We're all into this year talking about

1533
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:07,719
Speaker 2: the quarterback position. He's made similar statements over the last

1534
01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:10,719
Speaker 2: month or so, and then we get word that long

1535
01:16:10,840 --> 01:16:16,439
Speaker 2: time offensive lineman Tyron Smith is going expected to leave

1536
01:16:16,479 --> 01:16:17,599
Speaker 2: the team in free agency.

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01:16:18,120 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. My guess is, first I don't know what he's

1538
01:16:27,240 --> 01:16:30,519
Speaker 4: what he means by the we're I can quarterback? Yeah,

1539
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 4: I thought fairly, Siron, everyone knew you were drafting quarterback.

1540
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:39,000
Speaker 2: Well, just everybody asking the DAK question, the extension question whenever,

1541
01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 2: which naturally projects into him.

1542
01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 3: Are you tired of him? What does that mean?

1543
01:16:43,880 --> 01:16:48,439
Speaker 4: So Tron Smith will be a Hall of Fame left tackle.

1544
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,639
Speaker 4: He's been there I think twelve years, actually been pretty underpaid.

1545
01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:54,880
Speaker 4: He took a very team friendly deal like ten years ago,

1546
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 4: and obviously I think that you know, it just either

1547
01:16:59,000 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 4: they didn't want him back or there wasn't an offer

1548
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 4: made that was essentially good enough for him to want

1549
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 4: to come back. But what this does is is Now

1550
01:17:12,160 --> 01:17:14,280
Speaker 4: it adds another hole to your offense right and we've

1551
01:17:14,280 --> 01:17:16,880
Speaker 4: seen over the years, especially with with Smith, when he

1552
01:17:16,920 --> 01:17:20,919
Speaker 4: doesn't play this deep, this offense, I should say, is

1553
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 4: is much different. It is not as good and you

1554
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,120
Speaker 4: gotta find a solution for for him not being there.

1555
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:30,200
Speaker 4: And if that ends up being you know that you

1556
01:17:30,320 --> 01:17:33,120
Speaker 4: have to move your left guard over there, which is

1557
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 4: I think why you drafted him in the first place.

1558
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 4: Maybe that's what you have to do. But now you

1559
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:38,800
Speaker 4: have to find yourself a left guard. I mean you

1560
01:17:38,920 --> 01:17:40,880
Speaker 4: sort of assume, I think heading into the off season

1561
01:17:40,920 --> 01:17:43,800
Speaker 4: that you your your offensive line position would be set,

1562
01:17:44,960 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 4: you know, with with Smith being back, But now you

1563
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 4: got to find yourself an answer for left tackle. That

1564
01:17:48,880 --> 01:17:52,160
Speaker 4: takes away a resource you can have somewhere else. So

1565
01:17:53,439 --> 01:17:55,559
Speaker 4: I sort of get it. I mean, Smith's been hurt

1566
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 4: over the years, but again you have to find the

1567
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 4: the solution to this and that again, that's one more

1568
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:07,600
Speaker 4: position that you have to address this offseason. It's not

1569
01:18:07,640 --> 01:18:09,240
Speaker 4: like there's a bunch of left tackles is hanging out.

1570
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 4: I mean you have to go yourself, either move Tara

1571
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:16,519
Speaker 4: Smith there or draft someone to play left tackle or

1572
01:18:16,600 --> 01:18:17,040
Speaker 4: left guard.

1573
01:18:17,360 --> 01:18:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, as we talk about it often, Jeff. I mean,

1574
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 2: I know you guys do count down to kick off

1575
01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 2: and all your analysis through a year. I mean, try

1576
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:29,000
Speaker 2: to find five guys that work on an offensive line.

1577
01:18:29,200 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: I mean you did it professionally for eight years. I mean,

1578
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:34,840
Speaker 2: it is a difficult proposition, and how many teams are

1579
01:18:34,840 --> 01:18:39,680
Speaker 2: hamstrung there, and for the Cowboys, adding an extra decision

1580
01:18:39,800 --> 01:18:43,000
Speaker 2: point and question mark when you already have to try

1581
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,200
Speaker 2: to solve a defense that got shredded and the personnel

1582
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:51,320
Speaker 2: issues on that side your cap we know, cap manipulation happens,

1583
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,320
Speaker 2: and you'll stretch things out.

1584
01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 3: And do whatever. But they've got a lot of other needs,

1585
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:00,599
Speaker 3: and so adding another one at such a pivot position

1586
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:05,519
Speaker 3: seems curious. Given the all in commentary.

1587
01:19:05,640 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 4: Yes, and again, aren't they already all in? I mean,

1588
01:19:10,439 --> 01:19:14,320
Speaker 4: you're you're going for a championship with Dak Prescott. I

1589
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 4: feel like you you're already oral, and so it's it's odd comment,

1590
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 4: but I get I get what he what he meant.

1591
01:19:22,120 --> 01:19:23,280
Speaker 4: I guess a little bit by it.

1592
01:19:23,479 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, you got to figure out the Dak CD and

1593
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:30,160
Speaker 2: Micah Parsons contracts here in short order as well. So

1594
01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 2: all of that comes into play.

1595
01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:32,439
Speaker 3: Uh.

1596
01:19:32,520 --> 01:19:34,320
Speaker 2: And for folks that are like, well, what else are

1597
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 2: you gonna do? Dak is going into year nine. Just

1598
01:19:36,760 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 2: remember not everybody goes twenty years in this league, either

1599
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,800
Speaker 2: u and planning and failing to have that backup. And

1600
01:19:43,840 --> 01:19:47,240
Speaker 2: maybe Trey Lance could become that guy. But that's still

1601
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 2: a question well unanswered at this point. He's Jeff Schwartz,

1602
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,479
Speaker 2: I'm Mike Carmon Here, It's Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio.

1603
01:19:55,680 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 3: One more hour for us to go. We've got Combine.

1604
01:19:58,760 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 2: Work as the offensive Live, get after it, Iowa and

1605
01:20:01,439 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 2: Ohio State. Ready to go on Fox. Full day of NBA.

1606
01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,559
Speaker 2: So much going on, but coming up next we talk

1607
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:11,360
Speaker 2: about the veteran quarterbacks and who's getting on and off

1608
01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 2: the merry go round at different stops. Green Eggs, Welcome

1609
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:16,840
Speaker 2: in final hour of the program for us this morning,

1610
01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,599
Speaker 2: a beautiful Fox Sports Sunday.

1611
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:19,800
Speaker 3: Thanks for hanging out with us.

1612
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 2: I'm Mike Harmon alongside my guy eight years in the league.

1613
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Speaker 2: The Bare Beets Podcast, the Jeff Schwartz Is Smarter than

1614
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Speaker 2: You podcasts. He's evaluating the offensive lineman today at the

1615
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Speaker 2: NFL Combot. He's excitable in that regard. Ready for the

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Speaker 2: measurements is our guy. He's Jeff Schwartz at Jeff Schwartz

1617
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Speaker 2: where you find him in the Twitter verse. College Bucket's

1618
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Speaker 2: about to start here, Jeff. It's a full day of

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Speaker 2: action across myriad sports.

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Speaker 4: It's a great time of year. I'm obviously we'd love

1621
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:50,679
Speaker 4: to have football on today, but it's on a little

1622
01:20:50,720 --> 01:20:56,800
Speaker 4: warmer outside wet March Madnus obviously very soon and it's

1623
01:20:56,840 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 4: a good time of year, buddy.

1624
01:20:58,160 --> 01:20:59,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is about as good as it gets.

1625
01:20:59,680 --> 01:20:59,840
Speaker 1: Right.

1626
01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 2: Every things back in from my daughter. She's back into

1627
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:06,200
Speaker 2: her club stuff, high school and c IF and all

1628
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:09,400
Speaker 2: that is fun and done, and now she goes back

1629
01:21:09,439 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 2: to business with her people on the club circuit. So

1630
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,440
Speaker 2: she's support that. She's a soccer kid.

1631
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 4: You know what. You know what one thing that I

1632
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,720
Speaker 4: despise by this time of the year, What's that is?

1633
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:24,280
Speaker 4: I like rain normally it's good for the crops. I

1634
01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:26,800
Speaker 4: like it, you know, a little cold rainy day, you know,

1635
01:21:26,960 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 4: make a little soup hanging on the house.

1636
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:31,680
Speaker 3: But I wants to go to soup. Make I mean,

1637
01:21:31,680 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 3: now that you're getting all of your louise, if I.

1638
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 4: Can make a soup from scratch, I'll make a multiple soup.

1639
01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,840
Speaker 4: Took me a little soup. You make it all is

1640
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,040
Speaker 4: that it only rains on days my kids have baseball practice.

1641
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:48,519
Speaker 4: So the last two days it's rained on. It's rained

1642
01:21:48,520 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 4: on Tuesday, wiped out my son's baseball practice, and then

1643
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 4: it rained a lot on Friday night. And yesterday both

1644
01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,160
Speaker 4: my daughter and my son had practice wiped out. So

1645
01:21:58,439 --> 01:22:01,000
Speaker 4: I didn't rain any other days, just the day is

1646
01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,439
Speaker 4: the need to ruin baseball practice. That's the worst. I

1647
01:22:03,840 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 4: hate it so much.

1648
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's she's actually off to an ID camp today.

1649
01:22:09,080 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 3: Probably hates me for saying that on air. But that college.

1650
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:17,320
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, she's a sophomore defender, so got invited to

1651
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:21,760
Speaker 2: one of these. So it's pretty cool. Yeah, she's she's

1652
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,880
Speaker 2: a piece of work. She's got all my sarcasm and

1653
01:22:26,120 --> 01:22:29,519
Speaker 2: actually was able to pay off more of the athletic ability.

1654
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:29,640
Speaker 3: Than I was.

1655
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:31,439
Speaker 4: That's awesome.

1656
01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 2: Well, you know it's still going, so it's it's pretty cool.

1657
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 2: So she's on our way there in the rain here

1658
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: in southern California. You know, I know, as we got

1659
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:42,360
Speaker 2: things started, folks brought up the rain and we need

1660
01:22:42,400 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 2: it except for those houses on the cliffs. But again,

1661
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:49,200
Speaker 2: don't build houses on cliffs. At Jack Schwartz where you

1662
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Speaker 2: about this whole process she's going through, you know, college

1669
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Speaker 2: people reaching out and starting to where she'll be able

1670
01:23:11,600 --> 01:23:16,439
Speaker 2: to do the recruitment stuff in between kicking ass in class,

1671
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Speaker 2: different experience, different world, and obviously having powerhouses like yourself

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Speaker 2: and some of our other guys here at Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio to send questions to is the greatest thing. So

1674
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Speaker 2: I'll make sure it's worth your while. I'll send you

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Speaker 2: Chicago food, and we'll make sure everybody's properly compensated for

1676
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Speaker 2: their tile opinions. Thank you, Yeah, no, I appreciate you.

1677
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Speaker 2: And this is it's a lot of fun to do it.

1678
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:43,360
Speaker 2: And we're talking the NFL. Jeff, we got the combine

1679
01:23:43,400 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 2: going so number of quarterbacks. One of the guys that's

1680
01:23:47,040 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 2: on the radar, and we'll get to the veterans in

1681
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 2: a moment. But JJ McCarthy, it's a name. You're hearing

1682
01:23:53,479 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: a lot saying all the right things, and we've talked

1683
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 2: about that. Okay, it's good lip service and getting some

1684
01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:01,880
Speaker 2: run there. But from an event evaluation standpoint, evidently had

1685
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 2: a great meeting. Sean Payton was reportedly quote enamored with

1686
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:10,960
Speaker 2: him before the Combine experience, and now in mock drafts

1687
01:24:11,000 --> 01:24:15,680
Speaker 2: he's starting to show up consistently as low as fifteen,

1688
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 2: as high as number six if the Giants are feeling

1689
01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:20,439
Speaker 2: a little plucky.

1690
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:24,280
Speaker 4: I've seen some eights mostly and the Falcons.

1691
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:26,000
Speaker 2: At a The Falcons are kind of a wild card

1692
01:24:26,040 --> 01:24:27,680
Speaker 2: in a lot of things because I think they've now

1693
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 2: been attached to everybody.

1694
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:34,559
Speaker 4: Yes, including you know, justin Fields and Altva, they had

1695
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:36,200
Speaker 4: any idea what they're doing there. Quite Yeah, it's a

1696
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 4: little too early in the process I think to be

1697
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,639
Speaker 4: so in or out on on Fields at the moment.

1698
01:24:42,120 --> 01:24:46,559
Speaker 4: You barely even have you done your process for figuring

1699
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 4: out if you want McCarthy yet, you know.

1700
01:24:48,280 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, it's just that part of it with McCarthy

1701
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 2: going back to his collegiate days, and my partner during

1702
01:24:54,960 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 2: the week. Jason Smith is family, you know, his wife's family,

1703
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:02,160
Speaker 2: all Michigan whatever, and you know he's watching and you

1704
01:25:02,200 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 2: know what he what he evaluates like oftentimes this year

1705
01:25:05,760 --> 01:25:08,720
Speaker 2: they didn't need him to go and put up the numbers, right,

1706
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,439
Speaker 2: and so I'm trying to figure out what he is

1707
01:25:11,560 --> 01:25:15,519
Speaker 2: right as a leader, as a guy, a stabilizer. But

1708
01:25:15,680 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: is he that next level you know, the old uh

1709
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:22,719
Speaker 2: what tractor trailer kind of conversation that we have, who's

1710
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,400
Speaker 2: polland who's getting pulled? Is he a guy that can

1711
01:25:25,479 --> 01:25:27,439
Speaker 2: lead at the next level?

1712
01:25:28,360 --> 01:25:28,559
Speaker 4: Well?

1713
01:25:28,640 --> 01:25:30,799
Speaker 3: Lead, I think, well, I mean I made in terms

1714
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:33,040
Speaker 3: of uh, you know, I think being that guy that

1715
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 3: you put it on his shoulder kind of thing.

1716
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,559
Speaker 4: We don't know, you know, Look a lot of times

1717
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:40,720
Speaker 4: now we're getting quarterbacks drafted off of traits, right, it's

1718
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:44,120
Speaker 4: it's what what do they show on the film? What

1719
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 4: can they be? In the NFL? We're not drafting guys

1720
01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:51,920
Speaker 4: based off of, you know, really totally what the tape shows. Okay,

1721
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,800
Speaker 4: it's a different time we're in right now when it

1722
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 4: comes to evaluating quarterbacks. She has to change the way

1723
01:25:56,680 --> 01:25:59,120
Speaker 4: that we look at the evaluation and look it does

1724
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:00,800
Speaker 4: get us in trouble with the guy. Like you know,

1725
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:03,639
Speaker 4: look at Zach Wilson, you know where you just draft

1726
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 4: off the traits. Only McCarthy is more than that. I

1727
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:07,920
Speaker 4: don't want to put sort of him in the same boat.

1728
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 4: But you just have to look at his film and

1729
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:16,920
Speaker 4: think to yourself, Okay, what can he be in a

1730
01:26:17,000 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 4: more expanded offense because at Michigan he wasn't asked to

1731
01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:20,760
Speaker 4: do a lot. They want a game against Penn State

1732
01:26:21,240 --> 01:26:25,280
Speaker 4: where he did not legally record a pass in the

1733
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:29,880
Speaker 4: same half of that game, they had one pass, but

1734
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 4: it was it was a pass interference, so it does

1735
01:26:32,560 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 4: not go down as actually having thrown a pass. Okay,

1736
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,640
Speaker 4: So he didn't have to do a lot when he

1737
01:26:40,720 --> 01:26:42,479
Speaker 4: was asked to do a lot. To me, it was

1738
01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,360
Speaker 4: hit or missed. There was obviously a lot of positives

1739
01:26:45,360 --> 01:26:47,840
Speaker 4: that we saw at times with the ability to throw

1740
01:26:47,880 --> 01:26:50,880
Speaker 4: the needle on some throws, especially against you know, we

1741
01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:54,000
Speaker 4: saw it's Washington or Texas in those big moments, Washington

1742
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:58,800
Speaker 4: or Alabama today in those big moments. But it wasn't consistent, right,

1743
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:00,960
Speaker 4: and so if you put him in Sean Payn's offense,

1744
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 4: Let's say, do you find yourself with more consistency if

1745
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:05,320
Speaker 4: he's throw the ball a little bit more. If you

1746
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:08,519
Speaker 4: put him into you know, a Sean McVay offense, is

1747
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,760
Speaker 4: there more consistency when he's got to throw the boar

1748
01:27:11,920 --> 01:27:14,160
Speaker 4: more often? These are things that NFL teams have to

1749
01:27:14,200 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 4: figure out. It's a tough decision to figure out if

1750
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,360
Speaker 4: he's your guy versus other players have shown more in film.

1751
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:23,360
Speaker 4: But that's what makes this process unique is that you're

1752
01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,719
Speaker 4: not drafting sometimes off of what you see on the film.

1753
01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:28,439
Speaker 4: You're draft off of what you see the film and

1754
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,560
Speaker 4: what he can do in your specific offense, and so

1755
01:27:32,040 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 4: you know again, I would think that McCarthy could use

1756
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 4: sort of the year to sit behind a veteran and

1757
01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 4: get ready to play as he gets more used to

1758
01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:45,560
Speaker 4: an NFL offense. I can make the case that you

1759
01:27:45,680 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 4: just throw him in there and see what he's got.

1760
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:49,240
Speaker 4: If he doesn't have it, you can move on quickly.

1761
01:27:50,640 --> 01:27:55,519
Speaker 4: But I think he's very firmly the fourth quarterback in

1762
01:27:55,640 --> 01:27:58,120
Speaker 4: this draft, and that fourth quarterback might be drafted much

1763
01:27:58,160 --> 01:27:58,880
Speaker 4: earlier than we think.

1764
01:27:59,439 --> 01:28:03,200
Speaker 2: Now you've got the others out there. Penis Junior was

1765
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 2: watching some some work here in the Fox Sports radio Studios.

1766
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:10,600
Speaker 2: One of our TV monitors up on the combine and

1767
01:28:10,720 --> 01:28:13,120
Speaker 2: some of the bow Knicks throws, et cetera. How do

1768
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 2: you evaluate them given their length in college the injury

1769
01:28:17,720 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 2: for Penix for sure. So you know, certainly some guys

1770
01:28:21,360 --> 01:28:24,240
Speaker 2: that you see very wide variants on.

1771
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I watched Michael Pennox and Boonix a lot

1772
01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,800
Speaker 4: this season. Also with Boknick, who I watched a ton

1773
01:28:30,920 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 4: obviously's an organ guy. It's funny the advanced stats conversation.

1774
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:42,720
Speaker 4: So I like advanced stats. I think it is a

1775
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 4: great addition to the football conversation where we can use

1776
01:28:47,920 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 4: stats like ep expected points out or d v o

1777
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:56,200
Speaker 4: A and just learn team efficiencies, learn what teams are deficient.

1778
01:28:58,600 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 4: It's a good it's a good tool besides watching the games,

1779
01:29:01,200 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 4: you know, but there is a value in actually watching

1780
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,560
Speaker 4: the film. So for example, Bownix, everyone's gonna harp on

1781
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,679
Speaker 4: this right his aid dot. His average depth of target, okay,

1782
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:14,479
Speaker 4: is very low, it's like a four, and everyone calls

1783
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 4: him the checkdown King and he throws too many checkdowns.

1784
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:20,280
Speaker 4: But ask anyone who's watched his film, and I watched

1785
01:29:20,280 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 4: all of it this year. I saw Kurt Warner tweet

1786
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,880
Speaker 4: about this. I've seen len Zerline tweet about this NFL

1787
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:29,840
Speaker 4: dot Com Draft expert. It's hard to watch his film

1788
01:29:29,960 --> 01:29:33,439
Speaker 4: and think he throws a lot of short passes because

1789
01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 4: he doesn't. He throws all sorts of passes, intermediate, deep, short,

1790
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:42,519
Speaker 4: quick timing routes, very pro style offense that he was

1791
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:44,880
Speaker 4: in an Oregon pro style passing game. I should say,

1792
01:29:44,920 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 4: a lot of West Coast concepts, and he executed him

1793
01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 4: a high level. He was good against pressure, he was

1794
01:29:49,600 --> 01:29:52,559
Speaker 4: good on the move. So if you or anyone say,

1795
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:55,519
Speaker 4: during this process, well he just throws short passes, that's

1796
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,840
Speaker 4: a tell that they haven't actually watched Bownicks play. That

1797
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:00,360
Speaker 4: being said, I think the ar concerns about but I

1798
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:03,240
Speaker 4: think sometimes in the Oregon offense he was too robotic.

1799
01:30:04,120 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 4: He was too quick too to move off of a

1800
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,920
Speaker 4: read or or look at something quickly, determine it's not

1801
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:11,720
Speaker 4: the right thing to do, and then and then take off.

1802
01:30:11,760 --> 01:30:15,800
Speaker 4: At times, I think there were times when you know,

1803
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,080
Speaker 4: he would throw off his back front of use poor

1804
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:22,040
Speaker 4: mechanics when when pressured. I thought sometimes in bigger games

1805
01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 4: took them a little bit of time to sort of

1806
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 4: get used to playing in those environments, playing against those teams.

1807
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:32,040
Speaker 4: I think those are all legitimate reasons to maybe feel

1808
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,760
Speaker 4: like bo Nicks might struggle in the NFL. I think

1809
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:38,920
Speaker 4: there's a lot of Derek Card to his game, which

1810
01:30:39,360 --> 01:30:42,080
Speaker 4: again would worry me a little bit. You know, he

1811
01:30:42,200 --> 01:30:43,640
Speaker 4: wasn't asked for a bald down the field. It's all

1812
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 4: he turned out opportunities to do so, he just wasn't

1813
01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:50,240
Speaker 4: really asked to do it very often. And so those

1814
01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 4: are those are legitimate concerns. I think there's a legitimate

1815
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 4: concern about Okay, you know, is bo Knicks too robotic

1816
01:30:56,439 --> 01:31:00,720
Speaker 4: with his decision making process? Can we can we do

1817
01:31:01,960 --> 01:31:03,840
Speaker 4: everything we want to do with him like we can

1818
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:06,680
Speaker 4: with Kayleb Williams, Drake may or Jane Daniels. So those

1819
01:31:06,680 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 4: are legit concerns. His throwing the ball shorts not one

1820
01:31:09,439 --> 01:31:11,439
Speaker 4: of them. It's a ridiculous that's a ridiculous thing.

1821
01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, that seems to be the one that gets thrown

1822
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:17,519
Speaker 2: out pretty liberally. It's like I didn't watch you know,

1823
01:31:17,640 --> 01:31:21,439
Speaker 2: the tape as as closely or every snap as you did, Jeff,

1824
01:31:21,479 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 2: but I certainly saw a wide variance there.

1825
01:31:23,840 --> 01:31:25,560
Speaker 3: How about Pennis junr.

1826
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,600
Speaker 4: So this one's this one's really really fascinating to me.

1827
01:31:28,720 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 4: So Pennex, you know, he had three NFL wide receivers,

1828
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:40,360
Speaker 4: Ro madoons A Jaalen McMillian, McMillan, I should say, and

1829
01:31:40,840 --> 01:31:46,320
Speaker 4: Polk Okay, he had the Joe Moore winning offensive line.

1830
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,720
Speaker 4: So that's That's an offensive line award that's given to

1831
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:52,559
Speaker 4: the best offensive line all college football. It's the only

1832
01:31:52,640 --> 01:31:54,519
Speaker 4: award given to an entire unit. I'm part of the

1833
01:31:54,560 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 4: Joe More Award. I love being part of the Joe

1834
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,240
Speaker 4: More Award. Take a lot of pride at Washington won

1835
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:00,120
Speaker 4: the Joe Warward. They were the best offensive line this

1836
01:32:00,200 --> 01:32:03,559
Speaker 4: past year, and as they should they were. They were fantastic.

1837
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 4: So on sort of on a base level, he's gonna

1838
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 4: play with worst competition, if that makes sense. Sure, you

1839
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:15,000
Speaker 4: always worry about that. Obviously he's playing with all pros,

1840
01:32:15,120 --> 01:32:17,519
Speaker 4: but relative to the rest of his competition, everyone's a pro.

1841
01:32:17,680 --> 01:32:21,800
Speaker 4: Right Where in Washington he played with everyone that was

1842
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:23,479
Speaker 4: better than everyone else, Like there was there's no one

1843
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:26,720
Speaker 4: he played or no one he played against that had

1844
01:32:26,760 --> 01:32:31,040
Speaker 4: better offensive line or better wide receivers. So we often

1845
01:32:31,160 --> 01:32:34,320
Speaker 4: see that as a negative when it comes to what

1846
01:32:34,439 --> 01:32:37,280
Speaker 4: he'll do in the NFL because it won't be as easy,

1847
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, It just won't. He won't

1848
01:32:39,240 --> 01:32:42,439
Speaker 4: have room dune, say, catching fifty passes as much as

1849
01:32:42,479 --> 01:32:45,000
Speaker 4: he did in college football. But most of you, if

1850
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:48,200
Speaker 4: you sort of dig into into Pennex's film, he had

1851
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,880
Speaker 4: a lot of really good games. We saw Texas, we

1852
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:53,040
Speaker 4: saw a little bit of Oregon, but there was a

1853
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:57,840
Speaker 4: lot of like really sort of average Washington offensive film

1854
01:32:57,880 --> 01:33:00,360
Speaker 4: this season with him at quarterback, where against US, sure

1855
01:33:00,880 --> 01:33:03,240
Speaker 4: he wasn't able to put it, you know, to step

1856
01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 4: into throws. He wasn't as good, wasn't as accurate, never

1857
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,280
Speaker 4: threw never really in the entire offense to not throw

1858
01:33:10,280 --> 01:33:11,920
Speaker 4: in the middle of the field. It's not I don't

1859
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 4: know if that's his fault per se, but he just

1860
01:33:13,479 --> 01:33:15,800
Speaker 4: that wasn't part of the offense. You will rarely find

1861
01:33:16,600 --> 01:33:20,840
Speaker 4: throws over the middle of field at all with him. Again,

1862
01:33:20,960 --> 01:33:23,320
Speaker 4: accuracy issues at times when it's really not it's not

1863
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:25,880
Speaker 4: perfect in the pocket. So I think there are legit

1864
01:33:25,960 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 4: concerns about some of those things where I think it

1865
01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 4: will drop him down boards. I've heard grades from first

1866
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 4: round to fourth round for him. I feel sort of

1867
01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,439
Speaker 4: confident that bo Nicks is really just a second round

1868
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:41,400
Speaker 4: sort of a second round grade for everybody. So the

1869
01:33:41,800 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 4: you know, the the pasas is really interesting because I

1870
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,320
Speaker 4: think there's a there's a lot of good and there's

1871
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:50,160
Speaker 4: a lot of just okay. And again, if you go

1872
01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:55,759
Speaker 4: to I don't know, uh, Atlanta, Atlanta has pits in London,

1873
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 4: so that's not a bad.

1874
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, pits London. And in theory, with Arthur Smith gone,

1875
01:33:59,360 --> 01:34:01,240
Speaker 2: they'll actually use b John Robinson this year.

1876
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 4: There's again pending, there's a lot of like these fifty

1877
01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:06,720
Speaker 4: to fifty balls, right, which again, fifty to fifty is

1878
01:34:07,000 --> 01:34:09,880
Speaker 4: the term that I think we use for go routes. Right,

1879
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:14,280
Speaker 4: Just balls thrown one on one Washington white Outs catch

1880
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,280
Speaker 4: like ninety percent of those ones. It's just not going

1881
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,640
Speaker 4: to have that in the NFL, you know. And so

1882
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,439
Speaker 4: we saw against Michigan and when they didn't catch the

1883
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 4: ball all the time, what it looked like. It didn't

1884
01:34:23,920 --> 01:34:26,760
Speaker 4: look the same. So either those are legit questions for

1885
01:34:26,840 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 4: Pennex for bo Nicks. I think both can be really

1886
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 4: good in the NFL. I don't know if there's I

1887
01:34:31,160 --> 01:34:32,840
Speaker 4: think that they both have a chance to just do

1888
01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:35,080
Speaker 4: really great things. In the NFL. But I think those

1889
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 4: those are why they're not as highly ranked as Kayleb Boyams,

1890
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:40,920
Speaker 4: so I think is the best prospect Drake May and

1891
01:34:41,040 --> 01:34:44,599
Speaker 4: Jane Daniels. That's why there's legit concerns about all those guys.

1892
01:34:44,840 --> 01:34:46,760
Speaker 2: Can I ask you one more guy to get a

1893
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 2: little off the radar and out of conference? Joe Milton, Yeah,

1894
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 2: is an interesting guy watched. I mean, look, they were

1895
01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 2: on the early window here in West Coast, you know,

1896
01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:01,640
Speaker 2: SEC ball time, So I got to watch a lot

1897
01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:05,400
Speaker 2: of Joe Milton twenty touchdown, five picks, rocket.

1898
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:08,200
Speaker 3: Arm, all that stuff. Is he a guy that slides

1899
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,959
Speaker 3: up here coming out of all this evaluation at the combine?

1900
01:35:11,360 --> 01:35:14,160
Speaker 4: Yeah? The film yesterday of him throwing that ball was great.

1901
01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:16,320
Speaker 4: But again, I mean a lot of these guys can

1902
01:35:16,360 --> 01:35:18,560
Speaker 4: throw the ball like that. Yeah, sure, Like that to

1903
01:35:18,640 --> 01:35:22,639
Speaker 4: me is not I'm not easily moved by a quarterback

1904
01:35:22,680 --> 01:35:23,960
Speaker 4: throwing the ball far. We saw.

1905
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 3: I mean, all these guys at the ball, why even

1906
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:28,760
Speaker 3: the guys that don't throw the ball far can throw

1907
01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 3: the ball far once?

1908
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:30,080
Speaker 4: Correct?

1909
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:30,479
Speaker 3: Right?

1910
01:35:30,560 --> 01:35:34,000
Speaker 4: I mean and again it comes back to you know,

1911
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:35,560
Speaker 4: can you do it consistently? You do it with a

1912
01:35:35,600 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 4: defense in front of your face. We watched him play.

1913
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not always great with him, and there's

1914
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:45,800
Speaker 4: there's a consistency factor, and there's an issue. One hard

1915
01:35:45,840 --> 01:35:48,320
Speaker 4: part about evaluating quarterbacks now is the offense they played

1916
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 4: in college. Joe mills offense at Tennessee was or is

1917
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:58,680
Speaker 4: a quarterback friendly and again he's not sort of in

1918
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:03,519
Speaker 4: the same category as those first six quarterbacks. The the

1919
01:36:04,280 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 4: the the truth is a lot of fans don't like

1920
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:14,160
Speaker 4: to really hear this or really evaluated this way. But

1921
01:36:14,280 --> 01:36:18,479
Speaker 4: how many franchise quarterbacks right now in the NFL we're

1922
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:22,000
Speaker 4: taken after the first two rounds. Kirk Cousins is one

1923
01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:24,439
Speaker 4: of them. Dak Prescott's another one.

1924
01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:28,000
Speaker 3: Well, Russ was, we'll get to him in a minute.

1925
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 4: Do we have any Is there anyone else?

1926
01:36:30,280 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 3: I think that's it.

1927
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:38,080
Speaker 4: So the idea that you can drive sure, great example.

1928
01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:40,840
Speaker 4: So three right, and even then, like people are like

1929
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,599
Speaker 4: as Dak and Dak went in Super Bowl, you see

1930
01:36:42,600 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 4: the really the guy. It's really hard to find that

1931
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:55,680
Speaker 4: guy after the first two rounds. And so you can say, hey,

1932
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:57,880
Speaker 4: let's wait for Joe Milden. If you're you know, you

1933
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,760
Speaker 4: can certainly say that as a fan of a team,

1934
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:01,880
Speaker 4: and I'm sure there's there are teams with draft Joe

1935
01:37:01,920 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 4: Milton who have a quarterback and think he can be

1936
01:37:04,160 --> 01:37:07,320
Speaker 4: the guy in the future. But the fact is it's

1937
01:37:07,479 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 4: very rare. It's very rare to see quarterbacks that are

1938
01:37:12,080 --> 01:37:15,040
Speaker 4: not drafted in the top of the draft to be

1939
01:37:15,160 --> 01:37:18,080
Speaker 4: franchise quarterbacks, and even guys drafted like you know, even

1940
01:37:18,120 --> 01:37:20,760
Speaker 4: have to pick like fifty. I mean, it's just very rare.

1941
01:37:21,520 --> 01:37:24,600
Speaker 4: And I think it's a mistake if we believe that

1942
01:37:25,600 --> 01:37:27,760
Speaker 4: Joe Milton will be that guy, because he would be

1943
01:37:27,800 --> 01:37:30,439
Speaker 4: an outlier. And you can, certainly outliers are great, they're

1944
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:33,679
Speaker 4: very cool, and Brock Party obviously outlier. I mean, outliers

1945
01:37:33,680 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 4: are fun stories, outliers for a reason. And baking your

1946
01:37:38,280 --> 01:37:42,080
Speaker 4: franchise future on an outlier, it's just really tough. And

1947
01:37:42,160 --> 01:37:47,040
Speaker 4: Milton's gonna be probably a Day three guy. Could be

1948
01:37:47,120 --> 01:37:49,599
Speaker 4: drafted by a team that has a quarterback. I would

1949
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:52,160
Speaker 4: imagine already he might be a quality back. He might

1950
01:37:52,240 --> 01:37:53,600
Speaker 4: end up I might be wrong, man, he might end

1951
01:37:53,680 --> 01:37:55,840
Speaker 4: up being a great a great quarterback in the NFL.

1952
01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 4: There's just not a lot of evidence to show that

1953
01:37:59,080 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 4: he's a future friend.

1954
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:03,759
Speaker 2: No, sure, it just becomes You might have a situation

1955
01:38:03,960 --> 01:38:06,599
Speaker 2: like Cleveland. Did we need five guys at the ready

1956
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,800
Speaker 2: and there's Joe Flacco on his couch. Plenty of those,

1957
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:11,600
Speaker 2: but you mentioned a name. I want to get to

1958
01:38:11,720 --> 01:38:14,720
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins and all of the veteran quarterbacks as we

1959
01:38:14,840 --> 01:38:17,679
Speaker 2: go around the merry go round and figure out where

1960
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:20,840
Speaker 2: they stop. You got Fields, you got Kirk, you got Russ,

1961
01:38:21,160 --> 01:38:23,840
Speaker 2: and then you have the other guys that are washing

1962
01:38:23,880 --> 01:38:26,599
Speaker 2: out and trying to find their new spots. Matt Jones,

1963
01:38:26,920 --> 01:38:30,879
Speaker 2: Zach Wilson, et cetera, Else well, et cetera, else, et cetera.

1964
01:38:31,680 --> 01:38:35,400
Speaker 2: We'll talk about them and their collective fortunes. Coming up next,

1965
01:38:35,439 --> 01:38:37,639
Speaker 2: he's Jeff Schwartz. I'm by carbon To. This is Fox

1966
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:42,599
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. Hey, welcome back in Fox Sports Radio. Fox

1967
01:38:42,640 --> 01:38:50,240
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. Mike Harmon alongside Jeff Schwartz having a blast.

1968
01:38:50,000 --> 01:38:50,759
Speaker 3: With you this morning.

1969
01:38:50,840 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman is pacing like a caged animal in the

1970
01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:57,280
Speaker 2: just across the glass from me here as if he's

1971
01:38:57,360 --> 01:38:58,599
Speaker 2: ready to smash through.

1972
01:38:58,720 --> 01:38:59,000
Speaker 4: Jeff.

1973
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:00,720
Speaker 3: He's got a lot to say.

1974
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:04,280
Speaker 4: It's where he talks from Padres Baseball baseball.

1975
01:39:03,960 --> 01:39:09,280
Speaker 2: Season has there been any other story other than the

1976
01:39:09,400 --> 01:39:12,920
Speaker 2: Dodgers this spring training? Man, I know you're Giants, grab

1977
01:39:13,160 --> 01:39:14,160
Speaker 2: grab Chatman at all.

1978
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:17,040
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, I guess the Dodgers story is

1979
01:39:17,080 --> 01:39:18,679
Speaker 4: the same as it every year that when they lose

1980
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,720
Speaker 4: in the postseason to something they shouldn't know, we'll just

1981
01:39:21,800 --> 01:39:24,040
Speaker 4: all laugh at them. So I'm looking forward to that

1982
01:39:24,160 --> 01:39:24,439
Speaker 4: about you.

1983
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:27,600
Speaker 2: That's a six month build up now. I look, my

1984
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:31,280
Speaker 2: team's projected to win sixty three games this year. I'm

1985
01:39:31,320 --> 01:39:33,479
Speaker 2: a White Sox fan, so you know, one of those

1986
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:35,120
Speaker 2: rare Chicago South Sider guys.

1987
01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:36,280
Speaker 4: So it's good.

1988
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,280
Speaker 2: Probably gonna be a long year for me. So you know,

1989
01:39:39,479 --> 01:39:42,680
Speaker 2: schadenfreud is freud is a very real thing. I want

1990
01:39:42,720 --> 01:39:44,080
Speaker 2: everybody else's team to suck to.

1991
01:39:45,560 --> 01:39:46,720
Speaker 4: I mean, it's not like that, It's not like that

1992
01:39:47,080 --> 01:39:49,880
Speaker 4: the Giants canna be great. I mean, Chapman doesn't really

1993
01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:50,720
Speaker 4: make us much better.

1994
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 2: No, no, no, I like he was a name, right,

1995
01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,680
Speaker 2: one of the last guys on the board. As we

1996
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:01,080
Speaker 2: go through, Scott Boris is still decided he's holding off

1997
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 2: at least for another minute or two before the rest

1998
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:04,839
Speaker 2: of these guys get signed.

1999
01:40:05,240 --> 01:40:07,679
Speaker 3: But then you at least you know broke the news.

2000
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:12,240
Speaker 3: It was either Otani, Otani's marriage or see through pants.

2001
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,760
Speaker 3: Those are the only stories in Major League Baseball this week.

2002
01:40:15,720 --> 01:40:18,519
Speaker 4: The Dodger is not really knowing Otani was getting married

2003
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:20,160
Speaker 4: is fascinating to me.

2004
01:40:20,360 --> 01:40:22,120
Speaker 3: It is curious, right man.

2005
01:40:22,240 --> 01:40:25,240
Speaker 2: We try to do a deep dive on cultural things

2006
01:40:25,320 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 2: and other but you know Mike Trout quote who says

2007
01:40:29,560 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 2: nothing all of a sudden, we've got the quote. Really,

2008
01:40:32,000 --> 01:40:34,760
Speaker 2: he goes, I had no idea this woman existed, Like

2009
01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,920
Speaker 2: all right, So there you have it.

2010
01:40:37,600 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 4: Because a lot of times, you know you, you know

2011
01:40:40,160 --> 01:40:44,360
Speaker 4: you when you do sign do but signs a free agent,

2012
01:40:44,400 --> 01:40:45,800
Speaker 4: you know, like your family comes with you.

2013
01:40:47,000 --> 01:40:50,599
Speaker 3: It' two big to do, take a tour of things,

2014
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:51,840
Speaker 3: check some things out.

2015
01:40:52,560 --> 01:40:55,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I just I don't know. I mean not that

2016
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,800
Speaker 4: not to pay attention closely to Otani's love life, but

2017
01:40:58,880 --> 01:41:00,240
Speaker 4: still just it's still surprise.

2018
01:41:00,439 --> 01:41:02,400
Speaker 2: Next level stuff, no question about it. But it was

2019
01:41:02,439 --> 01:41:04,800
Speaker 2: one of the number one stories coming out of a

2020
01:41:05,280 --> 01:41:08,800
Speaker 2: very crowded sports week. Yet that cut through the noise. Hey,

2021
01:41:08,960 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 2: I want to make sure we also say welcome aboard

2022
01:41:11,800 --> 01:41:14,000
Speaker 2: one oh six point one the ticket in New Orleans.

2023
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:18,240
Speaker 2: They run by Cumulus Media Market manager Pat Galloway Program

2024
01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: director Jason Guinty, huge win for them, Welcome to the family.

2025
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:27,080
Speaker 2: The continued aggressive expansion here Fox Sports Radio one oh

2026
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:30,320
Speaker 2: six point one the ticket in New Orleans to FSR.

2027
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 2: I can't wait to see what kind of box of

2028
01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:35,800
Speaker 2: goodies gets sent from the different restaurants in New Orleans?

2029
01:41:36,000 --> 01:41:37,080
Speaker 3: Or is that not how it works?

2030
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:39,040
Speaker 4: Do I get to do I get in on that.

2031
01:41:39,240 --> 01:41:41,439
Speaker 4: I get Yeah, we'll figure that out down on some

2032
01:41:41,760 --> 01:41:42,479
Speaker 4: New Orleans food.

2033
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:43,160
Speaker 3: I'll let you know.

2034
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:48,200
Speaker 2: I'll be sending out uh my media to them this

2035
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:49,960
Speaker 2: week to say, hey, how do we get to come

2036
01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:52,599
Speaker 2: and really be part of your city in a bigger way.

2037
01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:56,800
Speaker 4: I just want the food. Everyone, give me all your

2038
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:57,200
Speaker 4: food now.

2039
01:41:57,360 --> 01:41:57,519
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2040
01:41:57,600 --> 01:41:59,680
Speaker 2: No, I'll go shake hands, kiss babies, and make sure

2041
01:41:59,720 --> 01:42:03,280
Speaker 2: you get the proper at two fe and Gumbo released

2042
01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:09,360
Speaker 2: to you as appropriate. We referenced it earlier the Salt

2043
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:14,559
Speaker 2: Lake LAFC game from yesterday. Coach quote an absolute joke

2044
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 2: and a disgrace.

2045
01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 3: All right, you lost it? Move on.

2046
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:24,639
Speaker 4: They had to play in the snow. Yeah, I mean, okay,

2047
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:28,240
Speaker 4: I mean you're an outside sport. What did you expect?

2048
01:42:28,520 --> 01:42:30,360
Speaker 2: I just thought it was kind of entertaining. It's like

2049
01:42:31,000 --> 01:42:33,800
Speaker 2: life happens. Life comes at you fast, you don't like it,

2050
01:42:34,040 --> 01:42:36,760
Speaker 2: throw the damn towel and be done with it. See

2051
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 2: Rocky references as we get in here as well. Veteran

2052
01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:43,880
Speaker 2: quarterbacks on the move right, Justin Fields is making up

2053
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,840
Speaker 2: a lot of the oxygen the last couple of weeks

2054
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:51,799
Speaker 2: and certainly me with my friend's family back home. Justin Fields,

2055
01:42:51,880 --> 01:42:54,719
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. We talked about that a bunch last week

2056
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:58,360
Speaker 2: and reasons where you could argue yourself if you really

2057
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 2: want to twist yourself into a pretzel about things you do.

2058
01:43:01,240 --> 01:43:04,360
Speaker 2: But all right, Caleb Williams. Number one, which means Justin Fields.

2059
01:43:04,439 --> 01:43:08,519
Speaker 2: Into the marketplace. We've heard Atlanta, we had Pittsburgh, which

2060
01:43:08,600 --> 01:43:11,200
Speaker 2: is kind of different from the way Pittsburgh has ever

2061
01:43:11,320 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 2: done business in the past. Right, They don't really go

2062
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:17,439
Speaker 2: into the marketplace to bring someone in. But we saw

2063
01:43:17,520 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 2: the odds for Russell Wilson out there as well. Kevin

2064
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:24,800
Speaker 2: O'Connell at the combine telling anybody who will listen, particularly

2065
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,840
Speaker 2: Kirk Cousins and his agent, we love you and we

2066
01:43:26,840 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 2: don't want you to go anywhere, even kind of alluded

2067
01:43:29,720 --> 01:43:33,040
Speaker 2: to tampering along the way Jeff, So all of that

2068
01:43:33,240 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 2: fun and excitement as it flows, but as the wheel spins.

2069
01:43:38,000 --> 01:43:40,439
Speaker 2: If I'm buying football cards in twenty twenty four, what

2070
01:43:40,600 --> 01:43:41,840
Speaker 2: uniforms are these guys wearing?

2071
01:43:44,680 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 4: So right now the teams are evaluating their options for

2072
01:43:52,640 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 4: in the draft. Right so, let's say the Vikings, the Falcons,

2073
01:43:56,040 --> 01:44:00,400
Speaker 4: the Broncos. You're not getting the top three guys getting

2074
01:44:00,439 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 4: Kidd Williams, Drake may or Jaden Daniels. What do you

2075
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 4: have to ask yourself is basically eight eleven and twelve.

2076
01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:12,800
Speaker 4: I think that's correct, right, eight eleven and twelve, Falcons, Vikings, Broncos?

2077
01:44:13,800 --> 01:44:16,839
Speaker 4: Is do you think.

2078
01:44:18,320 --> 01:44:18,560
Speaker 8: J J.

2079
01:44:18,720 --> 01:44:22,320
Speaker 4: McCarthy, Bo Nix, Michael Pennix, Maybe it's Spencer Rattler. I

2080
01:44:22,360 --> 01:44:27,519
Speaker 4: don't know. Someone else is the future franchise quarterback for you?

2081
01:44:28,840 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 4: Can that player play now or do they need a

2082
01:44:33,240 --> 01:44:38,599
Speaker 4: year to wait? You know, you can sign let's say

2083
01:44:38,720 --> 01:44:41,439
Speaker 4: Kirk Cousins for two years and he's gonna get guaranteed money.

2084
01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,439
Speaker 4: That's his agent has done a great job of getting that.

2085
01:44:43,640 --> 01:44:44,360
Speaker 3: He's been brilliant.

2086
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:47,760
Speaker 4: So do you do you sign Kirk Cousins for two

2087
01:44:47,840 --> 01:44:49,639
Speaker 4: years and draft one of those guys? Do you trade

2088
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:53,479
Speaker 4: for Justin Fields for a season and then draft a quarterback?

2089
01:44:54,680 --> 01:44:56,439
Speaker 4: Do you you know, like, I thank those are all

2090
01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:59,599
Speaker 4: the s's Like, Like, if you're the Vikings at twelve,

2091
01:45:00,080 --> 01:45:03,479
Speaker 4: to me, eleven, you're ahead of the Broncos. Do you

2092
01:45:04,120 --> 01:45:06,320
Speaker 4: sign Cousins for two years and use eleventh pick on

2093
01:45:07,120 --> 01:45:09,200
Speaker 4: maybe you might get the best defensive player at at

2094
01:45:09,200 --> 01:45:13,680
Speaker 4: eleven the way that the draft is going. Or is

2095
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 4: it better to get to draft a quarterback? Now? Pull

2096
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 4: the plug on Cousins and then continue on with your

2097
01:45:20,280 --> 01:45:23,240
Speaker 4: with your with your built. If you're the Broncos, is

2098
01:45:23,320 --> 01:45:26,880
Speaker 4: it better to draft assuming they get rid of of

2099
01:45:27,080 --> 01:45:29,800
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson? Is it better to draft someone at twelve

2100
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,400
Speaker 4: you'll find a veteran quarterback for a year or two.

2101
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:33,680
Speaker 4: You're the Falcons at eight?

2102
01:45:34,720 --> 01:45:34,760
Speaker 1: Is?

2103
01:45:35,080 --> 01:45:40,640
Speaker 4: I think those are all discussion teams are having right now.

2104
01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:44,040
Speaker 4: The Falcons, I think I've not decided what they're gonna

2105
01:45:44,040 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 4: do yet. I think it's to say they're going off

2106
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 4: the fields I think is wrong. We don't know. They

2107
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:49,880
Speaker 4: haven't even really interviewed any of these quarterbacks quite yet

2108
01:45:49,880 --> 01:45:51,800
Speaker 4: and gone the full scale of what they might want

2109
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 4: to do. I you're asking me my opinion, Mike, I

2110
01:45:55,400 --> 01:46:00,479
Speaker 4: always go young, I draft a quarterback because this is good.

2111
01:46:00,520 --> 01:46:03,439
Speaker 4: But you're not winning Superabole with Cousins. You're not winning

2112
01:46:03,439 --> 01:46:06,920
Speaker 4: Superble with Fields. You're not winning super Bowl with Russell Wilson. Now,

2113
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,600
Speaker 4: teams might decide, Okay, let's punt on the quarterback this

2114
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 4: year because next year's class is better. They can certainly

2115
01:46:12,960 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 4: say that, right, and I wouldn't. I wouldn't be that

2116
01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:18,200
Speaker 4: was the idea. Let's get Fields for a year, Cousins

2117
01:46:18,240 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 4: for a year, get someone next year. I'm totally fine

2118
01:46:20,920 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 4: with that. I don't mind that decision. But these guys,

2119
01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,200
Speaker 4: you do that with the idea of like, let's just

2120
01:46:26,280 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 4: get by this year, let's be a playoff team, let's

2121
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:33,599
Speaker 4: be competitive, let's get something our fans want, and then

2122
01:46:33,680 --> 01:46:37,160
Speaker 4: next year we'll go get the quarterback. There's also the

2123
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 4: case of what the Chiefs did. There might be a

2124
01:46:39,840 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 4: team at the bottom of this draft, those be the

2125
01:46:43,160 --> 01:46:46,000
Speaker 4: bottom for the first round that thinks, you know what

2126
01:46:46,240 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 4: we got, we got one year left with our guy,

2127
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,320
Speaker 4: let's go trade up and get one of these quarterbacks.

2128
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,040
Speaker 4: And that throws this whole discussion right. Let's say Dallas

2129
01:46:56,080 --> 01:46:57,840
Speaker 4: at twenty four, I'm using that For example, I have

2130
01:46:57,960 --> 01:47:00,400
Speaker 4: no idea Tampa Bay at twenty six. It's a great,

2131
01:47:00,439 --> 01:47:04,680
Speaker 4: great idea that Baker Mayfield, Let's resign Baker Mayfield and

2132
01:47:04,840 --> 01:47:07,200
Speaker 4: let's use all our at we love Drake may Let's

2133
01:47:07,240 --> 01:47:10,200
Speaker 4: go to three and get Drake may with the Patriots

2134
01:47:10,840 --> 01:47:12,880
Speaker 4: then and then obviously that changed everything. Or what if

2135
01:47:13,240 --> 01:47:15,040
Speaker 4: what if they love bo Nicks and they trade up

2136
01:47:15,040 --> 01:47:17,799
Speaker 4: to seven with the Titans because they know the Falcons

2137
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:19,880
Speaker 4: might like Bona or J. J. McCarthy. They traded to

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Speaker 4: seven or six and grab five and grab McCarthy. That

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Speaker 4: throws all the what the Broncos and BUCkies want to

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Speaker 4: do just off the board, right, So those are discussions

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01:47:31,680 --> 01:47:34,360
Speaker 4: they're having right now, all those things together. What happens

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Speaker 4: if this happened, if that happens, that is we're trying

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01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:39,639
Speaker 4: to figure out where they go. I think they choose

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Speaker 4: young over choosing older players. That's my that's my guess.

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Speaker 4: We'll find out in the next couple of weeks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the curiosity right. Also in the back end

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01:47:49,760 --> 01:47:51,360
Speaker 2: of the top ten, when you look at the Giants

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01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 2: and the Titans. Okay, you've got Daniel Jones. Do you

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01:47:54,920 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 2: love Daniel Jones do the Titans with Will Levis did

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01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:01,720
Speaker 2: just enough to say that he's your guy.

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Speaker 4: I think Times would love to trade out of seven

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01:48:04,200 --> 01:48:07,280
Speaker 4: and just get out of there, right. Yeah, because they

2153
01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 4: they they could use as many players as they can

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01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:11,559
Speaker 4: to help rebuild that roster.

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01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:14,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of a lot of change under undergoing.

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01:48:14,680 --> 01:48:15,759
Speaker 3: Uh for that squad.

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Speaker 2: I did like Raheem Morris's candid response to the quarterback position. Oh,

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01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,439
Speaker 2: it's fantastic earlier and we talked about a little bit

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01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,960
Speaker 2: Smith and I during the week. Jeff seemed like guys

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01:48:27,000 --> 01:48:29,400
Speaker 2: were really just kind of letting it out more.

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01:48:29,479 --> 01:48:31,920
Speaker 3: This year. Didn't seem like there was a lot of

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01:48:32,360 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 3: gamesmanship some of these quotes.

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01:48:34,960 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 4: It's a younger group, younger. I think the younger generation

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01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 4: shares more. Ra he Morris said, yeah, I wouldn't be

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Speaker 4: here for quarterback players better last year. It's true the

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01:48:45,479 --> 01:48:47,439
Speaker 4: fact that the better quarterback player this will still be

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Speaker 4: their coach.

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Speaker 2: It's a pretty good line basically saying we're open for business. Uh,

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01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:55,360
Speaker 2: come and talk about it. But for Raheem Morris most

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Speaker 2: most definitely, he was the guy that stood out amongst

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Speaker 2: the others.

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01:48:59,120 --> 01:48:59,240
Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: And we had a lot of it early week, you know,

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Speaker 2: kind of going through and cutting through the clutter about

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Speaker 2: team needs and where they're at in the evaluation of

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Speaker 2: it all. So I thought that part of it was

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Speaker 2: refreshing as well. And I think to your to your point,

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01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:20,519
Speaker 2: younger coaches don't feel like they're hamstrung perhaps like coaches

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Speaker 2: in the past, or everything's got to be like they're

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01:49:23,200 --> 01:49:24,000
Speaker 2: running the CIA.

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Speaker 4: Yes, and I like that more people are now forth

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01:49:29,120 --> 01:49:31,040
Speaker 4: right with their idea, with their with their opinions.

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01:49:31,479 --> 01:49:34,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, giving us a little more UH to work with

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Speaker 2: as we go. He's Jeff Schwartz, I'm Mike Harmon here,

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. And then one former

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Speaker 2: coach found himself in a new position. Does that fix things?

2187
01:49:45,800 --> 01:49:47,640
Speaker 2: Is that putting them over the top. We'll tell you

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01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 2: what that's all about. But first we got our guy,

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Speaker 2: Isaac Lowngroth again on his fourteenth dose of blabber meme

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Speaker 2: this morning.

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Speaker 3: Let's see what he's got left in the tank.

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Speaker 1: A lot.

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Speaker 3: He's getting twitch.

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Speaker 7: You can hear with the what don't we call it

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01:50:02,960 --> 01:50:08,479
Speaker 7: again verbal blavidal blabardine yet blabberty jitters. Was that the

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01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,360
Speaker 7: hour of Hartman harassing you, that pushed you over the

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Speaker 7: edge or what.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: The thing about Steve is he's able to verbally exhaust

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01:50:18,520 --> 01:50:21,080
Speaker 7: you for an hour, yet it's only been fifteen minutes,

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Speaker 7: which is quite a talent. In fact, even though he

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Speaker 7: is in the control room next door, he has no

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01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,719
Speaker 7: idea that we are talking about him on national radio

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01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 7: because he is right in the middle of one of

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01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:34,360
Speaker 7: his monologues and his extensive build up for his own

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01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,080
Speaker 7: show coming up at the top of the hour.

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01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:37,360
Speaker 3: How's that for a promo?

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01:50:37,479 --> 01:50:40,360
Speaker 7: We start Fellas of the NFL or ESPN reports that

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Speaker 7: the Miami Dolphins are unlikely to use the franchise tag

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01:50:43,760 --> 01:50:46,720
Speaker 7: on defensive tackle Christian Wilkins, which would make him an

2211
01:50:46,840 --> 01:50:50,160
Speaker 7: unrestricted free agent. Wilkins coming off a career high nine

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Speaker 7: sacks for the Dolphins in twenty twenty three and the NBA.

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Speaker 7: On Saturday Night, Lebron James became the first to hit

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01:50:56,560 --> 01:51:00,880
Speaker 7: forty thousand career points, but it came at a loss

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01:51:01,000 --> 01:51:03,280
Speaker 7: to Denver one twenty four to one fourteen.

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Speaker 8: I'm never thinking about a milestone when I'm out there battling,

2217
01:51:07,600 --> 01:51:10,479
Speaker 8: but when it happens, obviously we acknowledge it and you know,

2218
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:15,120
Speaker 8: obviously no much respect and much loyalty to the Laker

2219
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:17,280
Speaker 8: fan base, first showing me that love during.

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01:51:17,120 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 4: The timeout and being the first player to do something.

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Speaker 8: It's it's pretty cool in this league because you just

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Speaker 8: know the history, you know the grace that's come to

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01:51:25,400 --> 01:51:26,720
Speaker 8: the Leeds, and then you see some of the grace

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01:51:26,760 --> 01:51:27,360
Speaker 8: on the Florida night.

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Speaker 4: It was just great to compete.

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Speaker 7: Today's action tips off at the top of the hours.

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Speaker 7: The Dallas Mavericks play host to the Philadelphia seventy six ers.

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01:51:33,920 --> 01:51:36,639
Speaker 7: In college basketball, at the top of the hour, Caitlin

2229
01:51:36,720 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 7: Clark needs eighteen points to break Pete Merovich's Division One

2230
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 7: all time scoring record as sixth thrangked Iowa hosts number

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01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:48,479
Speaker 7: two Ohio State and one final check. Steve Hartman still

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01:51:48,600 --> 01:51:51,320
Speaker 7: oblivious to the fact that we are talking about him,

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01:51:51,560 --> 01:51:53,760
Speaker 7: and if I can read lips, he is recounting the

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01:51:53,920 --> 01:51:56,400
Speaker 7: Heisman Trophy voting in nineteen sixty two.

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Speaker 4: Back to you guys that surprised me.

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01:52:00,280 --> 01:52:03,960
Speaker 2: Heisman voting year after year. It's really kind of a

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01:52:04,000 --> 01:52:05,280
Speaker 2: piece of work. We should have been track.

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01:52:05,439 --> 01:52:06,559
Speaker 4: Who did vote for this year.

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01:52:06,920 --> 01:52:08,400
Speaker 3: You know I didn't hear himself.

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Speaker 4: Oh, Jane Daniels Jane Daniels. This here, Michael.

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Speaker 3: Pennox, I think he had to go Daniels.

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01:52:15,400 --> 01:52:18,040
Speaker 2: I think he just counted touchdowns was what his final

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01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 2: analysis makes sense.

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01:52:20,680 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 3: Just go down to base face box score reading. He's

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01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 3: Jeff Schwartz.

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01:52:25,080 --> 01:52:27,680
Speaker 2: That was Isaac Lowangrod had Isaac Lowancrown so much on

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01:52:27,760 --> 01:52:30,840
Speaker 2: his plate as well, because he's getting ready for harborisms

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01:52:31,720 --> 01:52:33,160
Speaker 2: that he'll be covering all year.

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Speaker 3: Jeff, So you know, prey and.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, one after another, relentless enthusiasm and blabermineh.

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Speaker 3: Both for he and coach Harbaugh. Did I say that

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01:52:43,600 --> 01:52:44,840
Speaker 3: I'm probably on the naughty list?

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01:52:44,920 --> 01:52:45,040
Speaker 4: Now?

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01:52:45,240 --> 01:52:47,879
Speaker 2: He's Jeff Schwartz on Mike Carmon Coming out next, forty

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Speaker 2: nine ers made a change in their defensive UH wizardry

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Speaker 2: and personnel. And then one State has a very interesting

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01:52:57,320 --> 01:53:01,200
Speaker 2: way of warning you about upcoming UH problems.

2258
01:53:00,760 --> 01:53:02,920
Speaker 3: On your roadways. We'll tell you what that's all about.

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01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:04,760
Speaker 3: Coming up next here on Fox Sports.

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Speaker 2: Radio, Welcome back in Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports or Radio,

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01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 2: Mike Garment alongside Jeff Schwartz. Coming up in about twelve

2262
01:53:13,080 --> 01:53:16,240
Speaker 2: minutes from now, you'll get Rich Hornberger and the aforementioned

2263
01:53:16,280 --> 01:53:20,800
Speaker 2: Steve Hartman in the interroum you got us, and right

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01:53:20,880 --> 01:53:23,000
Speaker 2: after our show ends, the podcast will go up. You

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Speaker 2: missed Annie if today's show, be sure to check it out.

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Speaker 2: Search Fox Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. Be

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Speaker 2: sure to follow, rate and review it again. Search Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio wherever you get your podcasts. See this show

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Speaker 2: posted right after we get off air. Fox Sports Sunday.

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01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 2: Schwartz and Harm and Jeff always fun chatting with you.

2271
01:53:40,880 --> 01:53:43,040
Speaker 2: We can do another three hours standing on our heads.

2272
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:47,519
Speaker 2: But you've got an offensive lineman to evaluate, and I

2273
01:53:47,720 --> 01:53:50,320
Speaker 2: probably have some kind of parenting I need to get

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01:53:50,320 --> 01:53:50,640
Speaker 2: to here.

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01:53:51,520 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 4: Let's see what's being a parent? What's that thing is?

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01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:56,680
Speaker 3: Well, it's more the where do they need to be

2277
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:58,080
Speaker 3: shuttled today?

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Speaker 4: You know, I love the bibble about buddy, there ain't

2279
01:53:59,840 --> 01:54:01,920
Speaker 4: nothing on Sundays for us, Oh there you go.

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01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:06,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think churchy thoughts and then reception thereafter.

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01:54:07,560 --> 01:54:09,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was like, there's never sports on Sunday. There's

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01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:12,599
Speaker 4: nothing Hebrews school today. What to Hebrew's cool? But there

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01:54:12,600 --> 01:54:15,439
Speaker 4: you go, there's there's no there's no sports today, so

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01:54:15,640 --> 01:54:16,960
Speaker 4: just kind of a chill day at home.

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01:54:17,000 --> 01:54:20,000
Speaker 3: Are you going to teach him about proper alignment and

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01:54:20,040 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 3: stuff for.

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01:54:20,479 --> 01:54:23,519
Speaker 4: What we will we will watch the combin in about

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01:54:23,720 --> 01:54:25,160
Speaker 4: ten minutes. Ten minutes.

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01:54:25,439 --> 01:54:27,760
Speaker 3: There you go. Yep, we got complin. Then we got

2290
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,720
Speaker 3: Iowa and Ohio State ready to tip off on Big

2291
01:54:30,800 --> 01:54:33,160
Speaker 3: Fox at the top of the hour. So we've got

2292
01:54:33,200 --> 01:54:33,600
Speaker 3: that going.

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01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:37,200
Speaker 2: Tennessee and South Carolina, a couple of other heavyweights getting

2294
01:54:37,240 --> 01:54:40,880
Speaker 2: after it. So so much activity full slai. NBA had

2295
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:43,320
Speaker 2: a short night last night. I mean, they did have

2296
01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:46,760
Speaker 2: the Lebron James forty thousand point thing, but the rest

2297
01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:49,600
Speaker 2: of the slate playing later today. So wherever you are,

2298
01:54:49,680 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 2: however you listen to us, We appreciate you giving us

2299
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:53,480
Speaker 2: a few minutes of your time. Keep it locked in

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01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio, the iHeartRadio app, all of our

2301
01:54:56,720 --> 01:55:00,680
Speaker 2: stations nationwide. Brandon Staley's we had a new job with

2302
01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:04,600
Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers. They blew out Wilkes,

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01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:09,320
Speaker 2: they promoted from within, and they bring in Staley, a

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01:55:09,400 --> 01:55:13,120
Speaker 2: guy who as a headman, let's face it, and just

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01:55:13,240 --> 01:55:17,320
Speaker 2: a lot of questions about decision making in turns. But

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01:55:17,520 --> 01:55:19,640
Speaker 2: going back to the defensive side of things where he

2307
01:55:19,760 --> 01:55:24,120
Speaker 2: became a standout, you know, in his time with the Rams,

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01:55:24,520 --> 01:55:27,520
Speaker 2: so an opportunity here for Shanahan and company maybe to

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01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 2: shore up what got leaky in the playoff and certainly

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01:55:31,960 --> 01:55:35,400
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl run. But now we look at you know,

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01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:38,520
Speaker 2: Staley getting another shot by by stepping back a minute.

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Speaker 4: Look, Staley was a good defense coordinator. He only did

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01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 4: it for a year. The Rams things were number one

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Speaker 4: in the NFL in the year that he was the coordinator.

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01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:49,480
Speaker 4: So certainly has has you know, again success in the

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01:55:49,560 --> 01:55:52,160
Speaker 4: past at that job. I think that you know, we

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01:55:52,240 --> 01:55:53,960
Speaker 4: get jaded by what he did as a coach, which

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01:55:54,040 --> 01:55:56,920
Speaker 4: was to be the head coach wasn't great. But I

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01:55:56,960 --> 01:55:59,120
Speaker 4: think you look at it again the success he had

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Speaker 4: as a DC, those short lived and think that good

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01:56:03,080 --> 01:56:06,560
Speaker 4: hired by the Niners, you know, But again you have

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01:56:06,680 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 4: to forget what he does the head coach. He's head

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01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:12,400
Speaker 4: coaching is some guys are not meant to be head coaches,

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Speaker 4: and he might be one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we've certainly seen that through the years, and folks

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01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:21,560
Speaker 2: be debating Eric the enemy forever. We talked about him

2327
01:56:21,640 --> 01:56:26,240
Speaker 2: last week joining the UCLA staff with Deshaun Foster. You

2328
01:56:26,360 --> 01:56:29,880
Speaker 2: go down the line, guys like Norvell Turner, one of

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01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 2: the great offensive coordinators.

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Speaker 3: Head coaching mixed results.

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Speaker 2: Wade Phillips, who was a better head coach that I

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01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:37,840
Speaker 2: think he gets credit for, but is known as a

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinator and that's his legacy going forward. So Nick

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Speaker 2: Sorenson gets the DC job, Staley goes in as assistant

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01:56:47,800 --> 01:56:50,680
Speaker 2: head coach. And finally, as you're on the highways and

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01:56:50,720 --> 01:56:54,240
Speaker 2: byways of life, you'll see some random signage along the way.

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01:56:54,360 --> 01:56:58,840
Speaker 2: Jeff in Spokane, they had the alert up, not hey,

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01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:04,240
Speaker 2: you know we're closing lanes, No, don't look out for folks,

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01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:08,520
Speaker 2: road construction, heater, road closures and diversions and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Nope. They had a sign that read angry raccoons ahead.

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Speaker 4: Hey, man, you ever know you gotta be careful.

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Speaker 2: Morning commute or late last month on a boulevard and Spokane,

2343
01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:25,280
Speaker 2: so you're going to work and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 2: on the side of the road in between the orange

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Speaker 2: cones is a sign yelling angry raccoons ahead. Now, I've

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Speaker 2: seen some random things here on the LA highways of Hey,

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Speaker 2: watch out for pedestrians.

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01:57:39,120 --> 01:57:42,200
Speaker 3: Do I need? Is that something I necessarily need?

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Speaker 2: On?

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Speaker 4: Man? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: No, I'd be a little afraid, right, very ready, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: they haven't figured out who hacked the sign, because that's

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01:57:51,560 --> 01:57:54,280
Speaker 2: become a kind of thing. Like we've seen them near

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01:57:54,440 --> 01:57:59,880
Speaker 2: our studios here in Sherman Oaks, where there's an advertisement

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Speaker 2: for like a rave just so you can tap in

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01:58:04,200 --> 01:58:08,520
Speaker 2: and find yourself uh an opportunity to create some chaos,

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01:58:08,720 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 2: and here it was the trash band is getting it done.

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Speaker 4: I like it. Yeah, they're they're destructive, man. And we've

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Speaker 4: lost some some chickens to the raccoons.

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Speaker 3: Wait, you've got chickens. Well, we had chickens, did you

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Speaker 3: get you didn't replace them?

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Speaker 4: We did, and then they got Then then the hawk,

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01:58:27,000 --> 01:58:28,440
Speaker 4: then the hawk and owl showed up.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't it verdible menagerie going on?

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Speaker 4: There? Wasn't it great? It wasn't great. Time to be

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Speaker 4: a chicken in the sports household. Listen, they're also doctor

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Speaker 4: kind of soft, kind of soft chickens, so they get

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Speaker 4: they get unfortunately passed away pretty easily.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited by the fact that you have chickens, though,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we've been celebrating the life and times of

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01:58:49,680 --> 01:58:52,560
Speaker 2: the Rocky series and I've always wanted a chicken coop.

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Speaker 2: It's one of my things of getting out of la

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01:58:54,600 --> 01:58:58,160
Speaker 2: is to eventually, you know, have have harmon South or

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Speaker 2: something where I can chase a chicken and get my

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Speaker 2: foot speed up for the combine.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the chicken it was. It was fun. I mean

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Speaker 4: I liked it. But I have a dog. Now I'd

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01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:10,920
Speaker 4: not tray to have the dogs. So not that I

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01:59:10,960 --> 01:59:13,280
Speaker 4: can't have both at the same time, but with the

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Speaker 4: dog we could protect the chickens better. But now we

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01:59:15,480 --> 01:59:18,720
Speaker 4: had chickens for during COVID, like November, we drove out

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01:59:18,760 --> 01:59:22,480
Speaker 4: to a part of North Carolina that wasn't honoring any

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01:59:22,560 --> 01:59:24,680
Speaker 4: of the restrictions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, restrictions.

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01:59:25,600 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, so and don't got to saw some some chickens. Yeah,

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01:59:28,200 --> 01:59:29,440
Speaker 4: there was no mask wearing out there.

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Speaker 2: Wow, that's interesting. See the things we learned. I've learned

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01:59:34,920 --> 01:59:37,480
Speaker 2: so much about you again, you are a renaissance man.

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Speaker 3: Get that booked on I have a book, beat my Schwortz.

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01:59:42,360 --> 01:59:44,280
Speaker 3: Then and then we wrote the book. What do we

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01:59:44,360 --> 01:59:45,000
Speaker 3: get at Amazon?

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01:59:45,160 --> 01:59:46,840
Speaker 4: Amazon? Yeah, there might be four copies.

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01:59:46,920 --> 01:59:49,120
Speaker 3: Let's go well again, then we should go find them

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01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:52,320
Speaker 3: absolutely at Jeff Schwartz where you find them on Twitter,

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01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:54,960
Speaker 3: find me over at swollen Home. It's been a pleasure, Jeff,

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Speaker 3: have yourself a fun evaluation day Hartman and Ornburger coming

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Speaker 3: up next here at Fox Sports Radio.