1 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,400 Speaker 1: Beyond the Beauty is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm Your host Bobby Brown. I wanted to have Alison 3 00:00:15,760 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: Roman on the podcast because I just so many reasons. 4 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: I first of all, I liked her the second I 5 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: met her. She's so easy, so laid back, so cool, 6 00:00:26,960 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: so normal, and her food is so delicious, and everyone 7 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: talks about her recipes and how to do this, and 8 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 1: I wanted to know her story. But I also really 9 00:00:36,479 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: wanted to know how does she deal with the pressure 10 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,240 Speaker 1: of being famous, how does she deal with the amazing 11 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:46,160 Speaker 1: food and keeping it in perspective? And I really wanted 12 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: just to know, you know, how we can all achieve 13 00:00:49,960 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: enjoying the most out of our food and life and 14 00:00:53,840 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 1: still be healthy and feel good in our bodies. Hey Allison, Hi, 15 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? How are you great? As great? 16 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,280 Speaker 1: As great as canna be? I know, it's such a 17 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: weird time to ask people how they are, because how 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,119 Speaker 1: do you answer? Yeah? It's I try to be as 19 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: honest as possible. I feel like the I'm great with 20 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: no sort of self awareness of that, like the barometer 21 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:27,399 Speaker 1: for great has just shifted. I think that you can 22 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: still be great, but great today is definitely not as 23 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:33,680 Speaker 1: great six months ago. And I think when people ask 24 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: how you are, and if you start to complain or 25 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: feel bad, you realize that we have nothing to complain about. 26 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 1: We're healthy, you know, our loved ones are safe. So 27 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: I try not to go there. Yeah, I definitely feel 28 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 1: on the privileged end of that spectrum for sure. And 29 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: you're somewhere in Brooklyn, I am. Yeah. I was in Hudson, 30 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: New York for a few weeks um staying with some friends. 31 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: That was almost it was like an accident because I 32 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: wasn't really sure how long this was going to last. 33 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: And I was supposed to be in Australia, so I 34 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: can't put my trip and I thought, oh, I'll just 35 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: go to Hudson for two weeks instead. But two weeks 36 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,839 Speaker 1: turned into six weeks. And how long you've been back 37 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: in your kitchen About a week? About a week, okay, 38 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 1: And so I just want to go back just to 39 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 1: even talk how we met, because I'll never forget the 40 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: first time I ever heard of you. I was asked 41 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 1: to do a story for just Bobby dot Com on 42 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,360 Speaker 1: your book, and I'm like, sure, send me the book, 43 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, this is the most 44 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: beautiful thing I've ever seen. How long ago did your 45 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:37,519 Speaker 1: book come out? Um? Nothing fancy came out in October 46 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,399 Speaker 1: of nineteen, and then Dining in This is the first 47 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:44,480 Speaker 1: one came on in October. Okay. And then when I 48 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: was asked to be in a shoot and to make 49 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: up for a shoot for l India, I said yes, 50 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: and they told me who was in it. And when 51 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: I mentioned you know who was in it to my 52 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: my son who was actually turning thirty this week and 53 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: lives in Brooklyn, his girl for end or his fiance, 54 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: his fiance who's also thirty, was like, like, they don't 55 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 1: get excited when I meet certain people. They could care 56 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 1: less that I met this guy or that guy. My 57 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: she screamed, because she they are obsessed with you. I 58 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 1: think your audience of cool thirty year old it's just 59 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: like it's it's explosive. So it's very nice. Yeah, No, 60 00:03:22,960 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 1: honestly so. Um, which I'm going to ask you sometime 61 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,640 Speaker 1: during this phone call, since my oldest son is turning 62 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:33,760 Speaker 1: thirty and he's a major foodie chef so into it? 63 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: What you think the one thing I should buy him 64 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 1: for his birthday is so you have the whole podcast 65 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:42,040 Speaker 1: to think about it, unless you con I'll think of it. 66 00:03:42,120 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: I may have some return questions for you to get 67 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: a better sense, but okay, yeah, so hopefully I think 68 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 1: you live in the same neighborhood they do. They see 69 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,760 Speaker 1: you all the time. But anyways, yeah, yeah, so anyways, 70 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: the l India shoot, I was so happy to do 71 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: your makeup and you came in from another and you 72 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: looked gorgeous. But I took your makeup off and started again. Yeah, 73 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 1: And I was so happy to do your makeup, And 74 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, I just thought it was I just 75 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: liked you as a human instantly. I liked you as 76 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 1: a human instantly. And I think what was funny for 77 00:04:15,680 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: me is that on the call sheet it says like, oh, 78 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: make up Bobby Brown. I didn't think Bobby Brown was 79 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 1: going to be doing by me. I was like, oh, 80 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: they're using Bobby Brown products. Are like, I don't know, 81 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: it's I'm not I just it did not occur to 82 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: me until like I sat in a chair and I 83 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: was like, oh, wopping. Um. So that was a trip 84 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,359 Speaker 1: for me personally. It was great and you're you're so 85 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: wonderfully normal, like in a way that I have been 86 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:49,039 Speaker 1: aware of you for so long that I don't know. 87 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 1: It just it felt like, oh, like those types of 88 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,599 Speaker 1: famous people live on a different planet and another planet. 89 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:55,920 Speaker 1: But I was like, oh, we love kind of. I 90 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: was really adjacent planets. I got it. Okay, Yeah, well 91 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: I think a thirty year old, cool Brooklyn girl, that's 92 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: my biggest problem in life. Yeah, I'm I'm actually a 93 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: sixty three year old cool New Jersey girl. But you know, 94 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: my in my head, i'm you. So I'm thirty four, 95 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: So I'm in my head I'm thirty. Also thirty four. 96 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 1: That is amazing. I thought I thought you would have 97 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: been from all you've done, you know older. I guess 98 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:25,720 Speaker 1: I don't know. You have not aged, you have not aged, 99 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 1: but you've been so popular before the pandemic, and since 100 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: this pandemic, it's literally like your name gets mentioned and 101 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 1: people start screaming. So how why do you think that is? 102 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 1: And how are you personally dealing with this? Um? Yeah, 103 00:05:40,839 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: I mean it's definitely it's It's it's different because I'm 104 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 1: not necessarily promoting anything, and I think that when there's 105 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 1: things like book tours, and you know, something happens where 106 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: I'm promoting something. You know, I'm trying to like drum 107 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,559 Speaker 1: up that excitement myself, Like I'm trying to talk about 108 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: things and get the word out and get other people 109 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: pumped on whatever it is. And I'm I'm promoting at 110 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: the time, but right now, like I'm not really trying 111 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: to promote anything, but it keeps happening. And I think 112 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: it's just there's I think that there's so much stuff 113 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: out there that you can cook that has my name 114 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: on it, and and like that's not because I'm more 115 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:23,120 Speaker 1: prolific than anyone else. I just think I've been doing 116 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: it a lot longer. So you know, there's like an 117 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: entire cattle of the recipes that exist on the internet, 118 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: and then two books and then you know, a bunch 119 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,880 Speaker 1: of other stuff. But I don't I don't know what 120 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 1: it is. I can't think about it too hard because 121 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: then I I don't ever want to be deliberate in 122 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: that I'm already afraid of this is gonna be a backlash. 123 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna fall from Chris. People are gonna get sick 124 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 1: of me. I have. I feel like I have to 125 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: be really mindful of of that um. But maybe I 126 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: should just be maybe I should care less and just 127 00:06:55,560 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: and and just hope that it lasts forever. I don't know, well, 128 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: you know, kind even a weird way reminds me of 129 00:07:01,800 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: my career where I burst into the scene just doing 130 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: the kind of makeup I always did and always gave 131 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: these kind of advice. And yeah, I've kind of been 132 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: on like different paths and different journeys, but I've stayed 133 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: authentic and the same, and it just kind of grows. 134 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 1: And the more I'm like myself, the more people seem 135 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: to want a piece of it. I think you are 136 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: the same. You're gonna you know, you are yourself, and 137 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: you're teaching people and giving people permission to enjoy and 138 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: to love, you know, eating and you know you're you're 139 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: just your food is so delicious. There's a million people 140 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: who have delicious food out there. But your your personality 141 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: and your I don't know, your your coolness and you're 142 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 1: cool without being cool. Now, No, that's really important. You're 143 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:53,280 Speaker 1: so cool without being cool. Thank you. I appreciate that. Yeah, 144 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 1: I think that the only thing that has gotten me 145 00:07:56,760 --> 00:07:59,680 Speaker 1: through um and that's like for better for worse. But 146 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 1: I am trying to be like make sure that I 147 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: am the same person all the time, Like I'm the 148 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: same person with my friends and my family and on 149 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: an interview and on TV and on a podcast and 150 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,000 Speaker 1: you know, in whatever. Like I think that like that 151 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: is the key to to anything to anybody, like achieving 152 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: any amount of um trust with other people too, you know. 153 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: I feel like if you are constantly shifting yourself to 154 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: like fit the mold or to be what you think 155 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: other people want or to follow a trend, like if 156 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: there's not a ton of substance there. And I think 157 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 1: that in agreeing to yourself that you always want to 158 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: just be yourself and that you want to stay true 159 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: to like what you believe in. With that comes the 160 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 1: knowledge that you're not going to be for everyone, right, 161 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:47,599 Speaker 1: Like you can't that a thousands I don't know. I 162 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,679 Speaker 1: don't know about sports. Is that a sports um all 163 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 1: the time. But I would rather the people that are 164 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: into me, like respect the fact that I'm consistent, rather 165 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,559 Speaker 1: than try to please everybody all the time by like 166 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 1: trying to do what is cool or popular in a 167 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,079 Speaker 1: given moment. Well, it's authentic. It's authenticity. And I learned 168 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,560 Speaker 1: early on that when you're comfortable in your skin, you're 169 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: confident and you're just easier to be around. Yeah, I 170 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: think you definitely captured that. But how did you even 171 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: discover like that you love to cook? Like when did 172 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: were you a kid? Did you grow up in a 173 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: cooking family? Yeah, I mean my parents. I grew up 174 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: in l A. And my parents, I don't think it 175 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: was like above average cooking, but maybe it was. But 176 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, we cooked dinner most nights and sometimes ordered 177 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: pizza and sometimes ordered take out, and it was pretty balanced. 178 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: It didn't feel like, um, like my mom and my 179 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: dad like they're divorced. So I had two different households, 180 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: but both in both households that was like when we 181 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:49,360 Speaker 1: did cook, it was a lot of like chicken with 182 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: asparagus and like rice and like we we always just 183 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:57,440 Speaker 1: had vegetables and protein and it didn't feel like health 184 00:09:57,440 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 1: food at all because it wasn't. And I also didn't 185 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: feel like they cared. I mean, we definitely had some 186 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,079 Speaker 1: Marine Calendar popeyes occasionally. That was one of my favorite foods, 187 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: but it was I didn't It didn't occur to me 188 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: that that was eating better or worse than anyone else. 189 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: And I think that there's some families that grew up, 190 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, eating like organic and low carb and like 191 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:20,719 Speaker 1: the found the other that like felt healthy and in 192 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: some families who I've spoken to some people in my 193 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 1: adult life who said they hadn't had a fresh vegetable 194 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 1: till they were like in our twenties and moved to 195 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 1: New York. Um, so I would say that we definitely 196 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 1: had a good balance. But it wasn't like every Sunday 197 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: at known as the House, we would gather around the 198 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: table like that wasn't really the vibe. But I did 199 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: to start getting into cooking. Um. I feel like around 200 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: high school I just became I just loved I've always 201 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 1: loved food. I've loved eating, not to be like I 202 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: loved food culture. I just liked food taste good. I 203 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,440 Speaker 1: was always very into that. It keeped my interest in 204 00:10:55,440 --> 00:10:57,080 Speaker 1: a way that like, it never occurred to me that 205 00:10:57,080 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: I would do it for a living. It's just something 206 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,440 Speaker 1: I always need that I like. And did you go 207 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: to college? I started to go to college, but I 208 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: did not graduate college. So I basically went away to 209 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: school and then dropped out to work in a restaurant 210 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: and just fell in love. Yeah, I fell in love. 211 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: I had been reading a lot of cookbooks and doing 212 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:18,199 Speaker 1: some more home cooking while I was in school, and 213 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 1: then just kind of reached a breaking point where I 214 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: wasn't happy where I was out in Santa Cruz, California, 215 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,200 Speaker 1: and it just wasn't jelling for me personally, and I thought, 216 00:11:27,360 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: why am I wasting my time doing something that I 217 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: clearly don't care that much about when there's something that 218 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: I care a lot about and want to learn a 219 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: lot about that I could do right now, you know, 220 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: and thinking Okay, well, if that doesn't work out, or 221 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: if I end up growing out of it or I 222 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 1: hate it, I can always go back to school. But 223 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 1: I never did. And then how did you get picked 224 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: up by the New York Times? So there are a 225 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:55,120 Speaker 1: lot of years between that and then that. So there 226 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 1: was I left to work in restaurants. I worked in 227 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,400 Speaker 1: restaurants for about six or seven years UM in California, 228 00:12:01,480 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 1: mostly Los Angeles and San Francisco. And these were like 229 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: fine dining restaurants with tasting venues and small kitchens that 230 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:13,000 Speaker 1: were very intense and very close knit and um pretty 231 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 1: like wildly creative but also intensely hard working work environments. 232 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 1: But I loved that I loved that five. I liked 233 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: working really hard, and I liked um the energy of 234 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:30,280 Speaker 1: service in a restaurant. I love like the work ethic 235 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,720 Speaker 1: people just gave us that was in the person every day, 236 00:12:33,880 --> 00:12:37,320 Speaker 1: and it felt like this kind of team environment that 237 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: we were all in it together. It was like this 238 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 1: kind of family unit, and I just became really addicted 239 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: to that energy. UM. Eventually, I decided to move to 240 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 1: New York to get out of restaurants because at that 241 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 1: point I had been working in them for so long. 242 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: And you know, I think in your early twenties, that 243 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: work schedule is fine, Like you going to work at 244 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: eleven am. You leave it to am, and that is 245 00:12:56,120 --> 00:12:59,720 Speaker 1: just so that's how you work. And that was fine 246 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 1: for me. And you make the least amount of money 247 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: possible and you're barely making rents, but that's okay because 248 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 1: you get like fer at the end of your shift 249 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,720 Speaker 1: and you know, like you're not sending money anyway because 250 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:12,440 Speaker 1: you don't your work all the time. It just it 251 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: was just like lifestyle that that breeded UM. That that 252 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: kind of lifestyle I guess where you were broke all 253 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: the time, it a didn't matter and you work all 254 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 1: the time, and it didn't matter because you love the work. 255 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:27,520 Speaker 1: And then I think I kind of grew physically and 256 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: emotionally and mentally exhausted from that, and so I decided 257 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: I was going to move to New York for three 258 00:13:32,720 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: months just to like see what it's like, and then 259 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:36,640 Speaker 1: moved back to San Francisco to open a bakery so 260 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:41,160 Speaker 1: I could with my old boss, so I could not um, 261 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: I just say I didn't want a restaurant, but I 262 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: wanted to make food. So we're like, okay, Bay, great 263 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 1: would be great because we can have our nights free 264 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: and you know, just work during the day and those 265 00:13:48,840 --> 00:13:51,000 Speaker 1: that'd be great. So I moved to New York for 266 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: three months. I'm using air clothes, and I the next 267 00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 1: day after I got off the plane, I had an 268 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: interview at the most of them where they had just 269 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 1: opened like the months before, and it was like a 270 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: friend of a friend who hooked me up with the 271 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: job interview, and I was like, Oh, it's a bakery 272 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: and they make like spee take supplies, and that sound 273 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: great and very easy for me, and like a day job, 274 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:14,559 Speaker 1: which I've never really had. I kind of always like 275 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,200 Speaker 1: gone into each job and it was a full time situation. 276 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: I gave it my own. I was like, I'm ready 277 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: for a less demanding job. So I took the job. 278 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: And then very soon after Christina was like do you 279 00:14:25,760 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: want to be the fuschefs? Like do you want a 280 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 1: salary and health insurance? And I was like, yeah, that 281 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,520 Speaker 1: sounds great. Um. I was twenty four at the time 282 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 1: and and I needed both of those things. And kind 283 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: of then and there, like two weeks in the living 284 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: in New York that I wasn't going to stay for 285 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: three months. I was gonna stay in definitely. And so 286 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: that was ten years ago and I never went back. Wow. 287 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:54,920 Speaker 1: And so I worked there and then after about a 288 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: year and a half, was like, Okay, I gotta get 289 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: out of here, because that's not why I moved to 290 00:14:58,200 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: New York. So I just kind of started playing word 291 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: out to people that I had met along the way 292 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 1: that I was looking for other work in the food world, 293 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 1: which I wasn't quite sure what that meant, but I 294 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: knew something had to exist. And got an interview with 295 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:13,480 Speaker 1: the food at are at the time at Bontavotea, and 296 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: he basically was like, do you want have you ever 297 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: tested recipes before? Um, and I kind of lied and 298 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: said yes. But I guess working in a restaurant, you 299 00:15:24,120 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 1: are testing recipines, like because you're testing work to put 300 00:15:27,720 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: on a menu. UM. And I had, you know, done 301 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: some testing for the Milkbark cookbook, like I had done 302 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:34,520 Speaker 1: some stuff I wasn't you know, I was also a 303 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: professional cook. So I thought, okay, well, yeah, I can 304 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: do this. So I said yes, and then um, I 305 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: started working in the test kitchen as a recipe tester 306 00:15:44,600 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: free lance meeting. I was there for like four days 307 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: a week because you know, they didn't have room on 308 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: our stuff, and I just kept coming in five days 309 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: a week. Anyway. I was like, you are only going 310 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: to pay me for four days a week, but I'll 311 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,080 Speaker 1: come in on the fifth day and they're like, what 312 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: are you doing here? But I just really liked it, 313 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:05,640 Speaker 1: and I felt like I belonged there, and I felt 314 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: like the work ethics that I had working in restaurants, 315 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: like it just felt like the thing that you have 316 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: to do. You have to show up, but you're not. 317 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: You have to stay longer than your shift, you have 318 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: to show up early, you stay late, Like, I don't know, 319 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:21,000 Speaker 1: that's just kind of what you learned in a restaurant, 320 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: so I applied that same technique securing a job there 321 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 1: because eventually then they hired me full time UM. And 322 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 1: then after four years there, I left UM. It was 323 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: just time for me to move on. I felt like 324 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 1: I had a choice to stay working for a brand 325 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:42,600 Speaker 1: UM that ultimately I didn't have a ton of control over, 326 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 1: like for my personal career, which was hard because it's 327 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: really successful. People love and there's a lot of support 328 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,520 Speaker 1: and a lot of creative, warm erful smart people who 329 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: work there. Don't make your work really shine UM. But 330 00:16:57,240 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 1: I kind of knew that that was not going to 331 00:17:00,760 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: be enough for me, and that I would rather achieve 332 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: less and do it on my own TRUMP. So I 333 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: decided to leave UM. And then soon after I got 334 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 1: a book deal, which was a two book deel So 335 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:15,560 Speaker 1: for Dining in and nothing fancy and UM. Like. A 336 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:18,280 Speaker 1: year after that, I started contributing to The New York 337 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 1: Times UM these three edit of U family line Steam. 338 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 1: She had approached me and said, we love your recipes, 339 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:27,880 Speaker 1: could you ever consider contributing? And as I told him, 340 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: I was working at don a Petite, so I couldn't 341 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: for the second that I wasn't that I was sort 342 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: of a free agent. I looked around and said, I'm free. 343 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: I was interested. And then after about two years of 344 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 1: just contributing kind of generally to the recipe day to days, 345 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: I asked um Sam Simpson if I could have a 346 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: column because seems like, are you happy? What do you 347 00:17:46,440 --> 00:17:48,080 Speaker 1: you know? What can we do for you? How? How 348 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 1: are you liking being here? And I was like, it's great, 349 00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:55,000 Speaker 1: I want to column. I just be heard. I was 350 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:57,639 Speaker 1: sort of ready to rethink my teeth into like an 351 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: actual placed with more right sularity, to kind of have 352 00:18:01,119 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 1: a place where people could find me on a pretty 353 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: consistent basis and have like a home again in that way. 354 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,320 Speaker 1: Not you know, so it wasn't make a full time job. 355 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: It was just sort of putting a ring on it, 356 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 1: so committing to one brand. So you're very entrepreneurial in 357 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 1: your in your thinking. I mean you you sound like 358 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,639 Speaker 1: an entrepreneur, which I can only I can only imagine 359 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 1: what we're going to see in the next decade from you. 360 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 1: But that's probably another conversation. But I don't have any 361 00:18:29,480 --> 00:18:32,240 Speaker 1: ideas I do. Are you kidding? I'd represent you in 362 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 1: two seconds. I have a ton of ideas, but I 363 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: definitely see things with your name on it, from food 364 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: to pots and pans and sponges and vacuums and all 365 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,280 Speaker 1: sorts of things. But I'm sure, yeah, I'm not worried 366 00:18:45,280 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: about that. What I really want to talk to you 367 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: about because I am someone, as as we discussed before 368 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:02,639 Speaker 1: we started this podcast, I'm someone that loves good food. 369 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what a food he is, 370 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: but I I love the best tomato that you could find. 371 00:19:08,240 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: I love dandelion greens, I love anchovy. I love all 372 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:15,919 Speaker 1: these amazing flavors and food. But I'm also someone that 373 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: grew up insecure, being on every diet, wanting to be 374 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: different than who I was. So I've dealt with body 375 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: image things. I've dealt with, you know, being frustrated about 376 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: digestion and I seem to like suffer from. Which door 377 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,600 Speaker 1: do I pick? And I'm trying, in my you know, 378 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 1: in my current situation, to pick the door that makes 379 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 1: the most sense, which I think I have. Do you 380 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: deal with any of those things? I did hear you 381 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: were half Jewish, so and so of course I do. Um. Yeah, 382 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:50,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I think the body image thing is very 383 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,400 Speaker 1: real I think, especially like the more that I found 384 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: myself getting photographed and doing stuff on video. The first 385 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: kind of bump of that, I was so hard on myself, 386 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: Like I just like every picture I saw, I was like, 387 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: oh I looked bad and I look like this, or 388 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: like my pants look weird, or like like I was 389 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 1: just so horrified by what I saw. And that is 390 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: like not that fair to me, because before that didn't 391 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: really have a brobble. It was only once I started 392 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: seeing it reflected back to me like in this media 393 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: way that I felt like I had to be different. 394 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: When I saw like the whole celebrity culture where there's like, oh, 395 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,399 Speaker 1: you're a celebrity, you're an actor, you're a model, and 396 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: then you can also write cookbooks, which like, okay, you can. 397 00:20:42,400 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that they're really writing the cookbooks. I'm 398 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: not really sure that they're like living the thing in 399 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: the way that I am. And I think that it 400 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: took me. I mean I still struggle with it, to 401 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,240 Speaker 1: be honest, but I think that I am now more 402 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 1: act good than I ever have been in my life. 403 00:21:01,640 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: And I work out more and I eat what I 404 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: want when I want, and I feel really good about that, 405 00:21:07,160 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: and I no longer associate like I'm no longer comparing 406 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: myself to other people. I think that this is my body. 407 00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: It's always been my body. I've always been very tall, 408 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,119 Speaker 1: with like wide hips and like a big butt and 409 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:27,640 Speaker 1: five and that is just that's my body. I'm never 410 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 1: gonna be a small spelt, petite person no matter how 411 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:35,920 Speaker 1: much I eat or don't eat, how much of ostracide, 412 00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: I don't extracize. And I think that there's like a 413 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: difference between feeling healthy and being healthy and looking healthy, 414 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: and I would almost always rather feel healthy than then 415 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: like look healthy whatever that means, um I see. But 416 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: I think that are kind of like hopefully synonymous. Hopefully 417 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: if you feel healthy, you look healthy too. But I 418 00:21:56,640 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 1: feel like people have such a fraud relationship with food 419 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,399 Speaker 1: and what is you know, quote unquote good for you 420 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,399 Speaker 1: versus not? And it kind of breaks my heart because 421 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: a lot of questions I get from people now when 422 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,680 Speaker 1: they're cooking my recipes, They're like, oh, that looks amazing, 423 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:17,399 Speaker 1: Like could I do it in an air fire? Or 424 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,359 Speaker 1: could I cut the oil in half? Or could I 425 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: use one can of coconut milk instead of two? And 426 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 1: I'm like I'm making food that is like delicious, and 427 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: part of it really delicious food. There's strings that involve that, 428 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: but on the whole, like I generally cook with olive 429 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 1: oil and lots of vegetables and minimal meat. I almost 430 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 1: never cooked red meat, like it's not super carbi like 431 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: unless it's a pasta, which it's gotta be. Like, I 432 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: don't know, I feel like I'm pretty balanced and I'm 433 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 1: pretty ah conscious of the types of food that I'm 434 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: asking you to cook that make me feel good. But 435 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,120 Speaker 1: I think that there's still like a whole culture that's 436 00:22:58,200 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: dedicated to labeling food like i'll seem good for you, 437 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,679 Speaker 1: and I just can't subscribe to that. But it's just 438 00:23:03,720 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 1: so not interesting to me. I'd rather not eat pasta 439 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 1: than eat pasta made with you know, Like I'd rather 440 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: not eat red meat than eat a meat replacement. I'd 441 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: rather like I think that if you're going to do it, 442 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 1: do it. If you're not, don't um. But that's just 443 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: my mentality. Like, I also have a different relationship with 444 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: food because I'm cooking it all day, well every day, 445 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 1: especially recently. It's just like sometimes I'm just exhausted and 446 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: I had popcorn for dinner, you know. And that's not 447 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: because I was depriving myself. It's because I've eaten all day. Yeah, 448 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: but tell me about your popcorn, because you're not just 449 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:42,199 Speaker 1: taking jiffing and put it in the microwave. Special to 450 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,960 Speaker 1: your popcorn. Yeah, okay, so I pop it from like 451 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: I buy counnels. I don't. I don't have a microwave. Um, 452 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 1: not because I'm a microwave snob. Just I don't have 453 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:54,000 Speaker 1: room for it. It It wasn't in my apartment. And I 454 00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:57,640 Speaker 1: didn't buy one. I just I don't have the space. Um. 455 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,000 Speaker 1: But I take colonels like lose all and then I 456 00:24:01,040 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: popped them in a small pot with either coconut oil 457 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,639 Speaker 1: or gee or a neutral oil if you know it's 458 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:11,240 Speaker 1: an oil vegetable oil. Um. And then I popped the 459 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 1: popcorn and then I season it with salt and n 460 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:19,159 Speaker 1: traditional least and like chili flake. That's delicias. Yeah that 461 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: sounds really good. It sounds really good. So what restaurants 462 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,600 Speaker 1: do you miss right now? Like if you could all restaurants, 463 00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: all right, give me your top three, especially in Brooklyn, 464 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 1: especially in Brooklyn. Um, I missed Heart. Um My friends there, 465 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: they are. They're actually still kind of staying open that really, 466 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 1: but they've turned it into a provision shop. So yet, 467 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: on Sunday, my two friends and I from a distance walked, 468 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, three miles round trip in the range just 469 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: to go pick up a chicken from there because we 470 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: missed seeing them and we missed their hospitality, and you know, 471 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: it was like a good way to support them, um 472 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: and feel connected to the place because I sent a 473 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 1: lot of time in their names, killed hearts. I'm actually 474 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:10,760 Speaker 1: drinking from their mud right now. Um. I miss That's 475 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 1: like I missed Rucola, which is downa street from my house. Um, 476 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: that's like the boarom Hill restaurant. Um. It's funny because 477 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: if you look at where I live, there's literally just 478 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: one restaurant in the middle that I wrote in a Rucola. 479 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,919 Speaker 1: So so I I lived there, I would have breakfast 480 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 1: meetings there. I would have a solo lunch bar. I 481 00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 1: would have a goot the one at the bar. I 482 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: would go on to the states, like I love that 483 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:34,920 Speaker 1: restaurant and I miss it so bad. Um. And that's 484 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: Han Dynasty, which is Sechuan food, and that was sort 485 00:25:38,160 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 1: of like my if I was ever hungover or if 486 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:43,720 Speaker 1: it was like really bad leather out or I didn't 487 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: feel like cooking. Mostly on a Sunday, I would order 488 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:49,399 Speaker 1: to take out from them, and damn I missed that. 489 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: It's got another kind of that I can cook. So 490 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: and how about pizza? Do you have a favorite pizza place? 491 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,120 Speaker 1: I do, but most pizza places are still open, That's 492 00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: what's funny. So I missed it. I had pizza for 493 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: the first time in like two months on Sunday, and 494 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:07,399 Speaker 1: just because it was I had been in Hudson and 495 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 1: so I wasn't having access to it. But I really 496 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: missed it. I got it from Table eight seven, which 497 00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 1: is fine. Um. I like dik in Pizza Market a lot. 498 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: I was trying to, like try a new places place, 499 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 1: but I think my pizza places are open right now, 500 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: which is comforting because it is one of my favorite foods. 501 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 1: And what did you have for breakfast so far? On 502 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: a black coffee? I'm not a breakfast person. I totally 503 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: like more and you're intermittent fasting. I hate to put 504 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: a label on it, am I Yeah, what time did 505 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 1: you stop eating last night? Um? Probably like eight? But okay, Yeah, 506 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: you are literally a glass of wine. I had a 507 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: glass of wine after that, So I think that cancels 508 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: that out right, Yeah, yeah, it probably does. But no, 509 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: but still I think from noon to like if you 510 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: did it nine, which they say helps you keep your 511 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 1: way down and it's a healthy thing. I don't know 512 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: if it is or isn't. I I go back, I 513 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: go back and forth, and that kind of My mom doesn't. 514 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 1: She swears by it, she's really into it. But I 515 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:18,359 Speaker 1: just sort of have never been breakfast person. Um. I 516 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: even when I work out in the morning, I don't 517 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: eat before because it makes me feel like I found 518 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: that it actually made me feel worse to work out 519 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: with food in my stomach. Even if it was like 520 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: half an egg and like I don't know, something light 521 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,639 Speaker 1: it was, it was still like I could feel it. 522 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: So I always prefer to eat after a workout. Um, 523 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 1: I didn't work out yet today. But what kind of 524 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 1: and what kind of coffee do you drink? I drink 525 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 1: black coffee, but like Maxwell House from Instant, No, what 526 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:52,199 Speaker 1: kind of coffee? No I'm drinking. I drink beans that 527 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: I grind in a coffee grinder and then I like 528 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 1: a chemacs pore over. It's because it's like a kind 529 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: of a ritual. It's like the first thing I do 530 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: in the morning. Um, and I have my little carrap 531 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:04,960 Speaker 1: and I drink through it out the day. I am. 532 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: I always let my coffee go cold unintentionally, but that's 533 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: just how I drink my coffee now. So yeah, yeah, 534 00:28:16,160 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: because I keep it in a chema, so I'll just 535 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 1: kind of refill throughout the day. But that's pretty much 536 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: the only consistent thing in my consumption habit throughout the day. 537 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: I I don't I'm not a very routine based person. Um, 538 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 1: especially with food. I every day is so different that 539 00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,320 Speaker 1: it's like what I do today is definitely not going 540 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: to be what I do tomorrow. And write Sport said, 541 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: I'm very like I let my instincts guide me, Like 542 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: what do I feel like eating today? What do I 543 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: feel like eating right now? Um? Yeah, well it's twenty 544 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,440 Speaker 1: to twelve. Do you have an idea what you want 545 00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: for lunch? Or have you not thought about it? Uh? Well, 546 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: I have a fridge stool of food right now, so 547 00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: I haven't to work with. I have a chicken that 548 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: I roasted and I'll probably and I carved it yesterday, 549 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 1: so I have all like the parts ready to go, 550 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:09,040 Speaker 1: so I can. I'll probably make something with the chicken. Um. 551 00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 1: I made broth with the leftover carcass, so like every 552 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 1: when I roast the chicken, I take the meat off 553 00:29:13,680 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: if I'm not going to eat it all that night, 554 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: and then I make broth with the rest of everything. 555 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:21,080 Speaker 1: So I kind of had two birds one stone. So 556 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: I might heat up some of that broth and add 557 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: a chicken back to it. I have some beans that 558 00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:27,200 Speaker 1: I made. Maybe I'll add some of the beans to 559 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 1: the broth. And then I have some broccoli robs, so 560 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: maybe I'll make like a little soupy situation um, and 561 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,959 Speaker 1: then with some chili oil on top or I don't know. 562 00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:40,560 Speaker 1: Sometimes I I I keep like snacky things that I 563 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,720 Speaker 1: love to eat, Like I I love cottage cheese. Full 564 00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: fat cottage cheese is so so delicious to me. Um, 565 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 1: And I like eating that with cucumbers with lemon and 566 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: chili oil on tops. So maybe I'll have well that 567 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: sounds great, Well, I put some I had a piece 568 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: of that you probably won't like. A piece of like 569 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: paleo bread that I toasted that I actually like the 570 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: taste with cottage cheese. A piece of smoked salmon and 571 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 1: everything bagel seasoning. That sounds yeah, it was actually really good. 572 00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I try not to eat too many carbs 573 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 1: because they don't make me feel good. But I would 574 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 1: literally if there was like French or Italian bread, I 575 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: will eat the entire thing because I love it so much. 576 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:25,560 Speaker 1: That's gonna I feel about cards in general, Like when 577 00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to eat them, I'm gonna just eat them. 578 00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna eat a pizza and I like make a pasta. 579 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna buy really nice bread from the bakery that 580 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: I love. But it's not something that I keep in 581 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: my house because I don't crave it. I don't need it. Um, 582 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: It's it's not something I deprived myself of. But that 583 00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: is the one food that I have realized for like, 584 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,959 Speaker 1: my stomach health isn't great. You mentioned that you do 585 00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: exercise a couple of days a week. What what is 586 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: your favorite exercise? What do you do? Um? Well, and 587 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: then before I was doing soul cycle and hot yoga 588 00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 1: pretty much, and and rumble, which is like a boxing 589 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 1: hit the class. Um now obviously can't be still cycle. Um, 590 00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: but I sort of started running again, which was like 591 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: I started running quote unquote, I started like two weeks ago, 592 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: which I have historically really not cared for. But I 593 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: think that because it's it's been so quiet, I've actually 594 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: kind of enjoyed it because I think what I don't 595 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: think about running is being out with all the people. 596 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: But there's nobody out, So I feel like if I 597 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: can do it in a way that feels safe and 598 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 1: I wear like my mask and I you know, avoid 599 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: people if I see them type of thing, I feel 600 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:37,680 Speaker 1: like there's a way to do it that feels thopful 601 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,280 Speaker 1: and conscientious and not just like I'm running on the streets. UM. 602 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: That to me has been really nice. It's also just 603 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: like a way to get out of the house. UM. 604 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: And then I still do like the boxing hit classes 605 00:31:49,920 --> 00:31:53,280 Speaker 1: from Zoom. Some friends in mine and Ironic a group 606 00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 1: fitness chat which we started back in December. I've just 607 00:31:56,800 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: kind of a way to keep each other abreast of 608 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 1: what classes we were taking and when I'll join. And 609 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 1: now we have a like standing Wednesday and Sunday class 610 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: with one of the instructors from Brooklyn UM that are 611 00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 1: like forty five minutes sessions and that's really great. UM. 612 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: And then I do yoga maybe twice a week pretense. 613 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: That's cool. So you're also known besides food as this 614 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 1: beauty girl. So I guess what what rednail polish are 615 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: you wearing? What are you wearing? Geranium? That's what I 616 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,440 Speaker 1: wear really well, you can see the taff ones. I 617 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,720 Speaker 1: usually have it on my fingers. That is my go 618 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 1: to color. Yeah, this is a little ticked right now, 619 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 1: but well, my go to is like red or whatever 620 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 1: because I get gel mean, but um, yeah that's that 621 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: I do. And if I my names aren't and I 622 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: do feel kind of naked. And you're known for red lips. 623 00:33:03,800 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: What are your favorite red lipsticks right now? Um, I've 624 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: been wearing mac in Lasting Passion and trying to find 625 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:17,280 Speaker 1: like ellipsticks that will stay on really and I and admittedly, 626 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: like am very bad at makeup. Like I, I don't 627 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: know much about it. I've never known that much about it. 628 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: It's not something that I've ever researched. I wish that 629 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: I knew more about it. I'm only just now getting 630 00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,600 Speaker 1: into like taking care of my skin or at least 631 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: something too. And I feel like makeup is the next frontier. 632 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: But I'm a pretty like low maintenance person visually. Um. 633 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 1: Somebody asked me that the day who doesn't wear makeup 634 00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: for those YouTube videos? And I was like, I was like, 635 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 1: I gotta blow out of dry bar and then I 636 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: do my own makeup like five minutes before we shoot. 637 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,040 Speaker 1: That's why it looks so good. You would probably be 638 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: horrified at my beauty routine. But but you know, but 639 00:33:58,200 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: that's what I actually like about you is that I 640 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: don't I wouldn't feel embarrassed to tell you. I feel 641 00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: like it's a judgment for his zone. Yeah, because it's normal. 642 00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 1: By the way, like my my you know, I had 643 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,080 Speaker 1: hair tapings in my hair because when I shoot, I 644 00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: needed full at the bottom and I took him out 645 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: and I'm like, okay, so what now. Like to me, 646 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 1: it's like everything's trust me. When we get out of 647 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,239 Speaker 1: this quarantine, I'm going right back to my girl to 648 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,080 Speaker 1: get him back, because I really, yeah, you know, so 649 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,280 Speaker 1: I want I want to go back to all those things. 650 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,759 Speaker 1: But you know, so right now I'm cooking more than 651 00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:31,319 Speaker 1: I ever have. And thank you so much Alison for 652 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:36,280 Speaker 1: inspiring me and inspiring like everyone out there, my family 653 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know if you thought about it, but 654 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: when am I buying Dylan for his thirtieth birthday, my 655 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: Brooklyn foodie guy. He's like a real foodie guy. I'm 656 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 1: assuming he has things like a Dutch Evan. I'm assuming 657 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: he has like, you know, those basic staples, right, I 658 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:57,280 Speaker 1: would guess. So, so what's the equipment? Is the thing 659 00:34:57,320 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: where that's like when you're you know you could buy 660 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 1: a lesser version for yourself because you're like, oh, I'll 661 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: buy the nice one in ten years, but like a 662 00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: nice setch of in is really worth the money. Um, 663 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: like a nice set of skillets that you will me 664 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 1: need three, you don't mean five, and like buying like 665 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: a set that I'll fit together, like a really nice 666 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,319 Speaker 1: nice that I feel like, you want fewer things, which 667 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,480 Speaker 1: is really high quality things. I need to know what 668 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: he has and what he doesn't have. You could maybe 669 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: like coordinate with his fiance. There's some really awesome places 670 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,719 Speaker 1: in New York still doing delivery, especially if he's in 671 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: the wine. There's like an amazing wine store up in Kingston, 672 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,200 Speaker 1: New York called Kingston Wine. But yeah, I feel like 673 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 1: getting the thing that you already know they love, Like 674 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: if you were my birthday and I got a shipment 675 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: of a case of wine from Kingson Wine Company. I 676 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 1: would be over the moon um or like you know, 677 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: there's a place called Mermaid's Garden um in Prospect Heights 678 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: that is a step three place and they have beautiful 679 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: clans and head On Prongs and Sam Morrow and cata Um. 680 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:02,319 Speaker 1: There's a place that I've been getting oysters from which 681 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,759 Speaker 1: is called Island Creek Oyster and they're based out of Massachusetts, 682 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: and they shipped fifty oysters to my two friends and 683 00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: I when we were quarantining together, and that was the 684 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: most one we had had in weeks, and it just 685 00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 1: felt really special and it kind of was like, you know, 686 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: it just felt like a treat. And um, you're also 687 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: supporting small business and I think that that's really cool too. Well. 688 00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: I know my producers probably ready to kill me. I 689 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 1: could talk to you for the next four hours, so 690 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: maybe I'll see you on zoom, but I hope. So 691 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: thank you for doing this and I'd love to see you, 692 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: you know again in the future. Thank you so much 693 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:45,240 Speaker 1: for having me. For more podcasts from I heart Radio, 694 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: visit the I heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever 695 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:50,720 Speaker 1: you listen to your favorite shows.