1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: Two thousand seventeen Pro Bowl Vote is here. It's time 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: to vote for the NFL Bath player to earn their 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: spot at Pro Bowl, where the best meets the next. 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 1: Help your favorite player earned a coveted spot on the 5 00:00:12,960 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: Pro Bowl roster. Today at NFL dot com slash Pro 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:23,800 Speaker 1: Bowl Vote and now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah 7 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: and Bucky Brooks. What's up, everybody, d J Bucky here, 8 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: Moved the Sticks. Big episode coming up today, You're gonna 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: enjoy it. We've got Bill's general manager Doug Waley can 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: and join the joined the show in a little bit. 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,519 Speaker 1: But Bucky, before we get to him, we have some 12 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: games to talk about from this past weekend in the NFL, 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: and we touched on the college thing a little bit. 14 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 1: But I thought, first of all, I mean we teased 15 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: it first start for Jared Goff. What do you think? 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's unfair that uh in l A is 17 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: the one day that it decided to rain, because I 18 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: don't believe we've got a chance to really see him 19 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: do whether Rams wanted him to do. Uh. The rainy 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: weather kind of prevented them from opening up and allowing 21 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 1: Jerry Golf to throw it around the yard a little bit. 22 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: They were very very conservative. Um random ball a ton 23 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: through some short passes, but it didn't spread it out 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:13,920 Speaker 1: and really put him in his comfort zone. Overall, I 25 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: thought he was okay, but I'm excited to see him 26 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: play this week because I think you have an opportunity 27 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: to do more and show more, and maybe we can 28 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: see someone a promise that led us to think that 29 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:25,240 Speaker 1: he could be a number one or number two pick 30 00:01:25,280 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 1: in the draft. All right, let me uh. For those 31 00:01:27,680 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: that didn't get a chance to see the Rams game, 32 00:01:29,920 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: I went back and watched the game and charted it 33 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:34,959 Speaker 1: a little bit. So they had thirty two times they 34 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 1: threw the ball. I'm gonna I'm gonna en rapid fashion 35 00:01:37,920 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: give you what happened on those thirty two plays. Okay, 36 00:01:42,240 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: is like NFL game rewind, except just the audio version. 37 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: All Right, you ready ready? Uh? First throw tip quick throw, 38 00:01:48,640 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: the flat was tipped and complete. Second throw throwaway and complete. Third, Uh, 39 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: I gotta boot a three yard flat route complete. Then 40 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 1: we have a slant complete slant complete three yard little 41 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: box routes smashed route incomplete, five steps vertical shot. So 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: one play there in the in the first ten where 43 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: he took a shot vertically. Then we have a three 44 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: step flat route incomplete, slant complete, slant complete. That's the 45 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: first ten passes. Remember we said before the game, at 46 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: least five five of them the laps, nine of them 47 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: were underneath throws. Nine of the first ten. So we 48 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,519 Speaker 1: get to the eleventh throw, flat route underneath complete, UH 49 00:02:18,639 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 1: twelve throw one of his best he escaped hit across 50 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 1: or that was a nice throw complete. Then we have 51 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: a comeback, a deep throw another one, so that's two 52 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: balls down the field. Uh. The first third team throws 53 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,079 Speaker 1: that's incomplete. Fourteenth time he dropped back. He ran himself 54 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: into a sack. Then we have a boot another dump 55 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: to the flat, incomplete, spot route underneath complete, a little 56 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: angle route to the back incomplete, bad throw, a scramble 57 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 1: throws a loose ball to the flat incomplete, quick out, complete, 58 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: little spot route underneath, complete flat route underneath, incomplete, option 59 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: route underneath, incomplete, check down to running back, complete slant complete, 60 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: little option route underneath, complete, slant complete, um shallow cross 61 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:01,720 Speaker 1: underneath complete, another little box route, a little three yard 62 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: UH end route. They're complete. Then then this is the 63 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:06,080 Speaker 1: end of the game where they're down corner oute in 64 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: complete corner oute and complete a little flat route, uh, complete, 65 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: Hail Mary and complete. So I just took you through 66 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: the through. You just saw the whole game. You saw 67 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: the whole game, and what I saw just on what 68 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: I'm hearing. A lot of quick game, a lot of 69 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 1: quick rhythm throws, restep City, get the ball out of 70 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: his hands. When you go back and you really look 71 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: at how Cale played and how he played when he's 72 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: at University California, Like the ball came out quickly, a 73 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: lot of spread, quick rhythm things, a lot of isolated 74 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,519 Speaker 1: routes uh designed for him to make quick decisions and 75 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,520 Speaker 1: quick throws. I'm not surprised because in reality, the league 76 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 1: is going to a lot of this quick game ten 77 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: yards and under less play dinkon dunk football. Part of 78 00:03:42,280 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: that is to protect the quarterback. Another part of it 79 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: is to kind of allow young quarterbacks to have success 80 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: because you uh, simplify the reach. So for Jerry Golf, 81 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: I think it's really important that they continue to surround 82 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,840 Speaker 1: him with playmakers. And I don't know if they have 83 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 1: enough playmakers in the passing game yet. You have a 84 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: big I'm running back in tied Gurley, that's what we think. 85 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,480 Speaker 1: You just fortify the offensive line. But in the end, 86 00:04:06,000 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: these last five six games is about let's see where 87 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: he can get to at the end of the the season 88 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: so we can have a jump off point for the 89 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 1: off season. Uh, let's see if Rob Warts and if 90 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: Chris Winky they're creative enough to put him in a 91 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: comfort game where we can see some of the potential. 92 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,159 Speaker 1: Interesting thing is we and we talked about it gonna 93 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 1: be a lot of underneath stuff to get him in 94 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:27,359 Speaker 1: a rhythm. But after you've kind of established that, in 95 00:04:27,400 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: my opinion, the first four or five plays maybe we 96 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:34,000 Speaker 1: talked about that first ten nine underneath throws. To me, 97 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: that's to get him in a rhythm. After that you 98 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: have to take a handful of shots down the field 99 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,159 Speaker 1: because it's gonna loosen everything up. All these litt underneath routs, 100 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:43,839 Speaker 1: complete r incomplete. They're getting tackled as soon as they 101 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: catch the ball. But because there's no respect for them 102 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 1: down the field, you have to at least take some 103 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: shots vertically. Well, yes, you you have to challenge him. 104 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: You have to challenge the defense because if I'm on 105 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 1: the other side, I'm a defensive coordinator. Especially after I 106 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 1: started getting the field after the first series of two. Okay, 107 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: they're gonna kind of quick as to day. If we're 108 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: gonna walk up, we're gonna get nose and nose on 109 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 1: the receivers and let's see if he can fit the 110 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: ball into some type window throws. It is incumbent upon 111 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: the offensive staff that they have a couple of tricks 112 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:09,799 Speaker 1: where they can stay one step ahead of the posse. 113 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,800 Speaker 1: When it comes to Jerry golf many. If we're gonna 114 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: start out quick game, let's make sure we have some 115 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: bunch of cluster formations with some other quick and intermediate 116 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,559 Speaker 1: throws that we can get to if they decide to press. 117 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,640 Speaker 1: Let's then advance off of that and have a bootleg 118 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: package to make sure that we complement what Todd Gurley's 119 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: doing in the running game. It should be a systematic 120 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,159 Speaker 1: approach to be able to attack the defense with a 121 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: young quarterback. We've seen there with Doc, We've seen there 122 00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: with Carson Wentz, We've seen that with some of the 123 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: other young quarterbacks that are playing. They have to make 124 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,279 Speaker 1: sure they do a great job of building a plan 125 00:05:40,680 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: that allows him to not face some of the complexities 126 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: that he may see from the defense. Now I'm with you. Well, 127 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 1: it'll be fun to watch see how they use him 128 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,280 Speaker 1: going forward. Uh, I need to tease a video we've 129 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: got coming up. It's gonna be on YouTube later, which 130 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: is taking these four quarterbacks from the last two draft classes. 131 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: Take Jared Goff out of it because he's only got 132 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: one start, but WinCE, Uh, WinCE and Prescott from this year, 133 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 1: Mariota and Winston from last year. Those four quarterbacks, it's 134 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: very difficult to do. We gotta rank them, wonder four 135 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: who you would want to build around for the future, 136 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:10,400 Speaker 1: not how other they're playing right now. Who you want 137 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,799 Speaker 1: to build around for the future. We're gonna have our answers. 138 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: We put a pull on Twitter, will reveal the Twitter 139 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: results as well as we asked a handful of analysts 140 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: around uh around campus here what they would do at 141 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 1: that position. Yeah, interesting quarterback positions. So much of what 142 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 1: we've heard about. I mean, when we hear coaches talking 143 00:06:26,640 --> 00:06:29,760 Speaker 1: about quarterbacks and the college game is not producing quarterbacks. 144 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: But when I look and see the guys playing, it 145 00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:34,159 Speaker 1: looks like they're playing pretty well. Particularly those guys that 146 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: have stayed in school for a long time. They had 147 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 1: enough reps to kind of assimilate into the league. I 148 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 1: believe now more than ever, offensive coordinators will face the 149 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: challenge of not only putting the young quarterback in their offense, 150 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: but meeting them halfway to allow them to have success. 151 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: Because the game isn't changing. The old guard is transitioning 152 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: out of the league. So teams in the young quarterbacks 153 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,479 Speaker 1: must find a way to get those guys on the 154 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: field playing and playing well if they're gonna have any 155 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: chance of success. All right, here, I had Bill Smith 156 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: and research before we get some of these other games. 157 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:07,480 Speaker 1: Last week I had him do a little third down study, 158 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: gets some numbers for us. It was pretty interesting. This 159 00:07:09,400 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: week I had two different projects for him, and he delivered. 160 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 1: By the way NFL research I believes a Twitter hand. Yeah, 161 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: NFL research on Twitter dropping some nice stuff. Yeah, so 162 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: be sure to follow them if you haven't already. So 163 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 1: here we go. I want to know about drops who 164 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: who's leading the league? And drop passes? Who's dropping a 165 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:25,920 Speaker 1: lot of balls? Who? Do you have any guesses? Uh, 166 00:07:25,960 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: let's see. I think Nelson Aguilar is probably up there. 167 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: He's so they're Philadelphia is third, tied for third in 168 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: the league. With twenty six drops. This is not Uh, 169 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,920 Speaker 1: the Raiders Houston game has not been included in this yet, 170 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: but I don't think it would not have affected where 171 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: they're rated. Although Crabtreat drop some balls last night. Yeah, 172 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:47,120 Speaker 1: but Philly has dropped twenty six balls. Giants lead the 173 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: league with thirty three. Then you have Jacksonville. So and 174 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: to me, it's interesting, like, let's take Philly at twenty 175 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: six drops. Okay, you've got Carson Wentz, a rookie plan. 176 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: We've got another rookie plan, Deck Scott drops by the 177 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys this year tied for eleven. So that's a 178 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: difference of fifteen completions. You're throw an extra fifteen completions 179 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,120 Speaker 1: in the yards that come with them changes your changes, 180 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 1: everything changes a lot of stuff. Change your completion percentage 181 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: keeps alive. It's extending drives. Pushing in favorable positions allows 182 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: you to play in manageable situations. On third, Yeah, you're 183 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 1: facing the defense that has to play what we call 184 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 1: mixed down looks, meaning they have to defend running pass 185 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: as opposed to loading up to play the pass. So 186 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: it does matter a lot. And when we talk about 187 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 1: the supporting cast, and why every quarterback has to be 188 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: judged individually based on what they have around them. And 189 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott when you look at their team. We can 190 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 1: talk about the offensive line, you can talk about Zeke, 191 00:08:48,160 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: but when you go to the pass catchers, Jason Winton 192 00:08:51,520 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: probably a certain Hall of Famer, very reliable, can depend 193 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: on when healthy. Dez Bryan is a top five receiver, 194 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:00,120 Speaker 1: a guy that is dynamic um changes the game and 195 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,679 Speaker 1: so and then coldbas he has emerged as a nice 196 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: complimentary slot receiver that can make some play. So Dak 197 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: Prescott is able to really play as a bus driver, 198 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 1: just kind of distribute, make sure we stay on schedule. 199 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: Everyone is um a part of the action. But when 200 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,200 Speaker 1: you have those guys that are dependable and trustworthy, it 201 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: allows your young quarterback to play at a high level 202 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 1: even though he's young and inexperienced. Interesting things. So that 203 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 1: was the one number I wanted to look at. By 204 00:09:26,840 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 1: the way, the uh the team with the least amount 205 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: of drops New England Patriots with ten. Wow, that's what 206 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 1: they do. I mean, they sacrifice some things, but they're 207 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: gonna be um. They're gonna be dependable and reliable. That's 208 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 1: what they do. Be in the right spot. Just catch 209 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: the ball. Don't need to run away from anybody in outside. 210 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: Do something where you're supposed to be catching that. Because 211 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,080 Speaker 1: you talk about a team that has a bunch of 212 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: guys that catch the ball, and you have arguably the 213 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: most angry quarterback that you'll find in the NFL, and 214 00:09:54,640 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: so if he always is delivering the ball within the 215 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:59,679 Speaker 1: strike zone, those guys are always catching it. It makes 216 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: it hard to get this offense off schedule. It's interesting. 217 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: So the Patriots only ten drops, I mentioned, the Cowboys 218 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: with only eleven, the Seahawks with only eleven, that group 219 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 1: of wide receivers they catch everything. Um, and the Redskins 220 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: with only twelve. You know, Like, here's what I'll say 221 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,320 Speaker 1: about the Washington riskins. And there's been a lot of 222 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 1: conversation and thought about Kirk Cousins and whether they need 223 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:19,320 Speaker 1: to pay him or not. Oh, he's gonna get paid. Oh, 224 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 1: he is definitely going to get paid. But this is 225 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 1: what I'll say, much like some other situations, that is 226 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,160 Speaker 1: a nice situation in Washington. I don't think people give 227 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: them a lot of credit for everything that is around. 228 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: They have nice offensive line. Why receiver Whid Receiver Corps, 229 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 1: I think is a top five whide receiver corps in 230 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: terms of their personnel and talent. The system is a 231 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: great system for what he is and how he plays. 232 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: Quick rhythm throws, ball comes out. Uh. They mixed between 233 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: shotgun and single back. They have some play action stuff 234 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: that they've recently stumbled upon with Robert Kelly being in there, 235 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 1: Vernon Davis re emerging as a factor. So there are 236 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:56,800 Speaker 1: a lot of nice things and this offense is very, 237 00:10:56,880 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 1: very diverse. So when I look at the Washington Riskins 238 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,439 Speaker 1: and I at their team, Yes, you have to pay 239 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: Kurt Cousins. Yes you need to make sure that he's 240 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: in the fold and you have all the things around them. 241 00:11:07,800 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 1: But I think this offense can be an offense that 242 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 1: is good for a long time. But they're going to 243 00:11:11,880 --> 00:11:14,040 Speaker 1: have to make some decisions because when they pay Kurt 244 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: and you have Pierre Gussan and de Sean Jackson come up. Now, 245 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: as a front officer, you have to make a decision 246 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: do we resign those guys? Are we confident enough in 247 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: our staff that we can find those guys? And I 248 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: think they're okay. I think they're okay. I think you 249 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: can see both those guys leave after this season. They're 250 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: gonna Josh Dockson needs to get healthy and get out there. 251 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: First round pick James Crowder. Jamison Crowder has been phenomenal. 252 00:11:33,800 --> 00:11:36,160 Speaker 1: He's been outstanding. So now in the draft, in my mind, 253 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: if if we're saying, okay, say these are conversations we're 254 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: having in the meeting room, like okay, So if we're 255 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: gonna let Pierre Gussan go down the road, we're gonna 256 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: let the Sean Jackson go down the road. In this draft, 257 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: we have to find a burner. We have to find 258 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,040 Speaker 1: a guy that can take the top off the defense, 259 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: someone like maybe a John Ross. There you go, it 260 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,040 Speaker 1: would be a perfect fit for them, you know, someone 261 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 1: not necessarily in the first round because you invested the 262 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: first round pick on Josh Dotson last year, but maybe 263 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 1: in the second round. I am looking for some and 264 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 1: that can take the top off the defense, that can 265 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 1: be that de Sean Jackson on the outside, and now 266 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 1: we can continue to play the way we want to play. 267 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: You know what's funny. I was just talking to somebody 268 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: with the team and uh, just kind of looking forward 269 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: to next year's draft and talking about uh, just in general. 270 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: I said, okay, you got offense, defense, you know, I 271 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 1: think you could use one of these or one of those. 272 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: What are you what are you looking for to get 273 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:25,240 Speaker 1: in this draft? He said, DJ playmakers. That's it. I 274 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: don't care what position. We need some more guys that 275 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: can make plays. So we're not so you know, hung 276 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: up on while we need one of these and one 277 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: of those. No, no, no, who can make a play 278 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: for us? That is this as bare bones as it gets. 279 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: We need some more of those dudes. Well, I think 280 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 1: the game is evolved, and I think and I think 281 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: is evolving right in front of us where um we 282 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: see it in basketball where basketball it is kind of 283 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: becoming position list. You're having a bunch of hybrid players 284 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: that can do a bunch of things like Kevin Durant 285 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: is a seven foot jump shooter that can he can 286 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: make some blocks at the rim, he can shoot, he 287 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,200 Speaker 1: can drill, he can do all these things, shoot three pointers. 288 00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 1: In football, you're looking are guys that aren't necessarily playing 289 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: set positions. So we talk about the safety position. We 290 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: have now statesties that playing the box like linebackers, but 291 00:13:08,320 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: cover or whatever. So it is important that whoever you're 292 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 1: looking at when we go to the school called we're 293 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 1: doing the tape. Does he show up on tape and 294 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 1: make games changing plays? Because there's a value for guys 295 00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,840 Speaker 1: that can deliver those splash plays that ultimately decide games. 296 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: So on defense, I want guys that can not the 297 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 1: quarterback around, they can create turnovers or they snatch turnovers. 298 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: And on offense own guys who can put the ball 299 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: in the paint from anywhere on the field. I wanted 300 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: to be able to score touchdowns because the game is 301 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: about scoring points. Can you create takeaways? Can you score points? 302 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 1: Those are the teams They went all right? So the 303 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: other the other stat I had him look at Buck 304 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: pressures allowed. Um, not a surprise. I don't think too 305 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: many people, although I think they played better on the 306 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: offensive line. Um. I think some of this is on Andrew. 307 00:13:52,520 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 1: Andrew holds the ball a little bit. But Colts number 308 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: one and pressures allowed hundred and ninety six pressures allowed, man, 309 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: that's pressure. The Browns right behind him at one eighties 310 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: six not surprising. The Seahawks are way up there. The 311 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,079 Speaker 1: Bills are third, the Seahawks or fourth. Russell Wilson, though, 312 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: gets out of that stuff, he saves them. Jamis Winston 313 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: is another one who's under a lot of pressure. He's 314 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 1: tied for the fifth most pressures and he gets out 315 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 1: of trouble. Interesting thing you look at the bottom of 316 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:19,040 Speaker 1: the list, So who's who's faced the least amount of 317 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: pressure and a lot of times. When we see these 318 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: stats sacks allowed, pressures allowed, the first thing which comes 319 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,960 Speaker 1: to your mind is offensive line. This might change your thinking. 320 00:14:28,440 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: Who do you think is the least pressured quarterback in 321 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: the NFL? Same thing, Tom Brady, Saints. Drew Brees veteran 322 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: understands how to get rid of the ball, only been 323 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 1: pressured sixty six times. So think about this. The Colts 324 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: have been pressured a hundred ninety six times. Drew Brees 325 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: has three times as many sixties six times um. And 326 00:14:47,000 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 1: then I think, look, I think New England some of 327 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 1: that because Breed didn't play the first four weeks. You've 328 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: gotta factor that in. But where in New England falls 329 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 1: in this list? Are in the middle of tied for 330 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: sixteenth right a second, who's right behind so the Saints 331 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: right in front of them. Ben Roethlisberger Pittsburgh. Another another 332 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: veteran quarterback is gonna get a lot of quick game, right, 333 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: a lot of quick game. Get the ball in your hands. Next, 334 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: Derek Carr, we talked about his you know, offensive line 335 00:15:08,080 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: is great, but he's got a quick release. The ball's gone, 336 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: the ball comes out, you know, um, and this will 337 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: be interesting. Maybe this is the next year's stat steel 338 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: being able to see what we call from snap to release, 339 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: how quickly is the ball coming out, because I would 340 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: wonder what the correlation is between those numbers and how 341 00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: quickly the quarterback has taking a step and getting it 342 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: out of his hands. Because more teams are playing what 343 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:32,040 Speaker 1: we call that dink and dunk connect the dots break 344 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: passing game. You cannot block the pass rushes in the league. 345 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: They're two explosive, the athletes like von Miller's the DeMarcus, 346 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: whereas even the d Ford you can't block those guys 347 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: one on one. So you have to put it on 348 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback to get it out of his hands. Those guys, 349 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: the veterans understand how critical it is to get it out. 350 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,080 Speaker 1: Derek Carr is mature beyond his years if he's understanding 351 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: how to get it out, because the negative plays are 352 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 1: what kill you. Because the negative plays end up leading 353 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: to those turnover situation where your third and twelve you're 354 00:16:01,400 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: throwing against the loaded coverage and the ball is ultimately 355 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: tipped or deflective for interception. This is one that surprised me. 356 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:10,640 Speaker 1: So Dallas Cowboys eighty six pressures, which is great. I 357 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: mean they're they're tied for UM, so they're they're in 358 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: great shape there. But look that eighty six times the 359 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: Cowboys been quarterback has been pressured. The Philadelphiagles have only 360 00:16:18,960 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: been pressured ninety times. This says a lot about Carson Wentz. Yeah, 361 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: I mean getting the getting the ball because I think 362 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: they play a different style. I think Prescott, you watch it, 363 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: he's got he's operating, he's got some time back there, 364 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: and he's not getting pressured and delivering the ball. I 365 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 1: think a lot of this with Carson Wentz not getting pressured. 366 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: And people were critical. Remember when they played against the Cows, Oh, 367 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: just a bunch of short little throws. Talked about golf. 368 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: A bunch of short little throws they have in Philadelphia. 369 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: Have they've tried to stretch it out. They tried it 370 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: this last week. They had some poor decisions and they 371 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: had some drop passes. Um but you've got to find 372 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:49,880 Speaker 1: a way to balance that quick game. I think Drew 373 00:16:49,920 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: Brees is the master of it. Quick, quick, quick, all 374 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:53,960 Speaker 1: of a sudden shot right over the top. So it's 375 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 1: like a boxer just jab jab jab boom. You have 376 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:58,320 Speaker 1: to set it up and those those those throws have 377 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 1: to be manufactured, those home run throws. But if you 378 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: have the ability to play quick rhythm games, it makes 379 00:17:04,840 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 1: it where your quarterback doesn't get hit. And if you 380 00:17:06,960 --> 00:17:09,679 Speaker 1: have the receivers that are catching run specialists, meaning they 381 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: can break a tackle and turn a slant into it 382 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 1: like a fifteen and twenty year game. It is frustrating 383 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: to a defense to surrender a bunch of quick rhythm 384 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: throws because then you get out of sorts. You try 385 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:20,440 Speaker 1: to play press man to man, and that's when your 386 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: home run shots happened. Drew Brees is the master of it, 387 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 1: and Sean Payton is a great play design and he 388 00:17:26,840 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: understands how to set up the defense to manipulate those 389 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: shots eventually down the field, no question. So it's just 390 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:33,960 Speaker 1: a couple of interesting stats to look at this week 391 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:37,800 Speaker 1: from from last week's games. Buck um anything else, anything 392 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 1: else jump out at you. I think the running I'm 393 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: gonna go back to the risk and I'm gonna go 394 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:45,000 Speaker 1: back to Robert Kelly and I'm gonna go back to 395 00:17:45,160 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: that one. I'm gonna go back to like why the 396 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: running back position remains such heartward maybe to evaluate. I 397 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: just think everywhere I think you can find running back, 398 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: you can find you know, we we say that, But 399 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 1: then like, it's not only being able to find them anywhere, 400 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,120 Speaker 1: it's also finding the right one for what you do. 401 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: And I think that's the biggest thing we talked about 402 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 1: UM and scouting. UH. Fit in scheme, How does someone 403 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 1: fit within your scheme is critical? So every running back 404 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: isn't necessarily the right flavor for what you want to do. 405 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 1: But if you can find the guy who has the 406 00:18:19,640 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: skill set, and Robert Kelly certainly has the skill set 407 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:24,520 Speaker 1: to be a physical runner behind that big offensive line. 408 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 1: They want to play power football. He's getting the shoulders 409 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: where he's running through tackles. It has worked well j 410 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: J I. For the Miami Dolphins, Adam Gaye comes over. 411 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:34,959 Speaker 1: JI was languishing on the bench. They now get him 412 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 1: in the lineup. He's a physical runner that does it 413 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 1: between the tackles. Has some explosiveness change the identity of 414 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: the team. I believe as much as we talk about 415 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: the devaluation of the running back, they're still not diminishing importance. 416 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: It's about finding the right guy at the right value 417 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: to have him come and be your feature back. Yeah. 418 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 1: I have this discussion all the time with friends around 419 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: the league, and it's look, this guy is great in 420 00:18:58,119 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: the first round, but I it's gonna cost me a 421 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 1: first round pick to get this kid, or I can 422 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: take one in the fifth round, and I'll tell you 423 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: what I'm gonna sign. Two more is undrafted free agents. 424 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give myself three cracks of this thing, and 425 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: the capital is gonna cost me next to nothing. And 426 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take chances. I'm gonna take chances on the draft. 427 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,880 Speaker 1: Like that's the other thing too. If you don't take 428 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: a first rounder, I'm gonna take as many as I 429 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,360 Speaker 1: can be it at the bottom of the draft, free agency, 430 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: guys who may have had character issues, guys who fail 431 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,479 Speaker 1: for whatever reason. But I'm about to throw him out 432 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 1: there and I'm gonna give them opportunities and I'm gonna 433 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:32,560 Speaker 1: cycle them through. And I'm a firm believer when I 434 00:19:32,600 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 1: was at Carolina. We had to believe that you need 435 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: to take one early, run him into the ground, onto 436 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:40,120 Speaker 1: the next one, onto the next one. It's hard. Don't 437 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: ever hold it's cold, but it is what it is. 438 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: Don't ever allow a running back to get into a 439 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 1: second contract um. And not only do you do that, 440 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,880 Speaker 1: but when he has one year remaining on his deal, 441 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: that's when you draft another one high, just so you know, 442 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,760 Speaker 1: get that one year out of him. We did it. 443 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: We had Stephen Davison. Uh, Deshan Foster. Deshan Foster becomes 444 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: a guy, he's the bill Cow. Then we go and 445 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: get D'Angelo Williams. D'Angelo Williams goes and does this thing 446 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: as a first round pick, and then they get Jonathan 447 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,919 Speaker 1: Stewart just kind of right into the passage. If you 448 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: do that, you have an opportunity want not to tie 449 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: a lot of money into the running back position, but 450 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:14,600 Speaker 1: you always got a younger model that you're really trying 451 00:20:14,640 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: to get three touches. No, it's fascinating the uh uh 452 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:21,199 Speaker 1: anything else from this last week before we touch on 453 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: these college games, But like I mean, not not nothing 454 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,439 Speaker 1: else really stood out to me. Nothing else. I think 455 00:20:25,480 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: the one thing that stood out to me the Minnesota 456 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: Vikings and their special teams. Uh, I want it. With 457 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: defense and special teams, you get a pick six and 458 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 1: a kick return. We talk about in scouting being able 459 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: to spend a little extra time on the school called 460 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: looking at the special teams table, looking at who are 461 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 1: the guys putting the stars on the stickers, like a 462 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,679 Speaker 1: Cordero Patterson who was terrific at Tennessee as kind of 463 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: a do it all playmaker, uh, a return specialist. He's 464 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 1: been able to take him into paint. Also, guys that 465 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: can block and cover and do those things. We're seeing 466 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Vikers a week ago, we saw the Denver Broncos. 467 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Those guys that are able to be able to do 468 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: it now it's it's uh, it's key. You know. I 469 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,399 Speaker 1: have a a friend of the personnel department that one 470 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,719 Speaker 1: of the things he likes to do during the year. 471 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: I think this is a great idea is he'll just, 472 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,840 Speaker 1: you know, sporadically send out who are the best five 473 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,000 Speaker 1: special teams players you've seen, or who were the five 474 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: most explosive players you've seen. Um, look, if I'm the 475 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles, after what they've seen the last couple of 476 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,679 Speaker 1: weeks and throwing out those drop numbers. I'm like, hey, 477 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,080 Speaker 1: send out an email to all your scouts. I don't 478 00:21:24,119 --> 00:21:26,359 Speaker 1: I don't care what the fastest is whatever. Who are 479 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: who are the five best pass catchers you've seen this 480 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,960 Speaker 1: fallow the most reliable, dependable guys. We need to get 481 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: one and and I think it's very important, Like this 482 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:38,479 Speaker 1: is a kind of a macro deal. Like as you're 483 00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: at the top, because you talked about being national's got 484 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: even direct or whatever, you have to be able to 485 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: think beyond this year. You're like being able to categorize 486 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:47,360 Speaker 1: and sort those guys out and be able to say, 487 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,520 Speaker 1: here must be receivers, here are my dependable chain movers, 488 00:21:52,000 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 1: Here are my guys that could be my number one receivers, 489 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: and being able to have multiple lists so you know 490 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 1: exactly what do we need. And so, for instance, because 491 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: we got hit up on Twitter about a kid from 492 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: Eastern Washington, Cooper Cup, who man I stayed up to 493 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: watch him. He got hurt his shoulder agains Port, let's 494 00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 1: stay at one. I was amazed that I found it 495 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 1: on direct TV. It was on Roots Sports TV or whatever. 496 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:18,199 Speaker 1: I tune in and I'm like, Okay, here we go. 497 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: I got my guy. IMNA watch him. He catches a 498 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,679 Speaker 1: deep ball, lands on the shoulder, he's done. But he 499 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:28,360 Speaker 1: is someone who have a lot of intrigue somewhere day 500 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: to day. Three big physical receiver, but he's dependable. You 501 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,920 Speaker 1: can make plays and he's done it for a long time. 502 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:39,480 Speaker 1: Side and big attack twelve teams. He tortures them. Absolutely, 503 00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 1: watched watched the tape against Oregon State. He wore out Washington. 504 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 1: He was younger with again market competers. Absolutely, you gotta 505 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: watch that tape. Yeah, so so watching those guys that 506 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 1: are dependable and quality that can get it done. Corey 507 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: Davis is another guy from Western Michigan who is kind 508 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: of a chain mover like that. You have to have 509 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: those guys because their critically may not be the fastest, 510 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: but a good offensive coordinator will find a way to 511 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 1: uncover those guys and get him open. All right, Uh, 512 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: let's touch real quick. On the weekend that was in 513 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,880 Speaker 1: college football, buck biggest surprise probably Louisville just getting smashed. 514 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:16,920 Speaker 1: I didn't see that coming out knocking around. I will 515 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 1: say this, Houston has a defensive tackle. Uh Wilson number 516 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,720 Speaker 1: ten yeah, oh no, no no, no, he's a bad dude. 517 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: But I think he's a younger. Houston is a freshman, 518 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,720 Speaker 1: is not. That's not his name? What is his name? 519 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 1: I can see him clear as day. He is dominant. Actually, 520 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: I talked to somebody that was at the game, said, dude, 521 00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: have you seen this man? Oh my goodness, I think 522 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: he was a top defensive lineman in the country coming 523 00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 1: on college. He was like a five star recruit man. 524 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, no, he's a bad dude. Um. He completely 525 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: dominated that game. And I think the big thing for 526 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:46,880 Speaker 1: a lot of people who are just tuned in for 527 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, and I know it's easy when guys are 528 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: young to just kind of throw these big things out there. 529 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: I've even been guilty of because I talked about the 530 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: Michael Vick round, the Cunningham thing. As it gets closer 531 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: to his time to become eligible for the draft, will 532 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,560 Speaker 1: begin to pick a part his game. And what I 533 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: will say about Lamar Jackson in terms of his game, 534 00:24:04,720 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 1: he is going to have to be able to balance 535 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:11,120 Speaker 1: his game from between being a playmaker and being a 536 00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: guy that can move the offense, meaning he can't always 537 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: go for the splash play he has to be able 538 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,480 Speaker 1: to get the ball out of his hands. At no 539 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 1: point can a quarterback take eleven sacks. We can talk 540 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: about the offensive line, but a lot of that is 541 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,560 Speaker 1: on the quarterback. He has to be able to find 542 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: a way to get the ball out of his hands 543 00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,400 Speaker 1: and a lot of offense to work for him. At 544 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:32,040 Speaker 1: Oliver I believe was his name. He's a bad dude. Man. Um, 545 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 1: that's a powerful, powerful dude. Um anything else from I 546 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: mean that's he beat the breaks off l A. That 547 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: didn't really surprise anybody. I don't think, No, it didn't. 548 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: But I think the big thing was watching Colorado. I 549 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 1: thought Washington State would beat them. I did, but didn't. 550 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: The quarterback for Colorado had a really nice game. Now 551 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,199 Speaker 1: what is the poor man? I mean, he's a big, 552 00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,880 Speaker 1: physical running twenty three times for a hundred yards, still 553 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: for three hundred um. They did a really good job 554 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 1: of putting him in a situation where they could do it. 555 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: Colorado has some intriguing guys. They have a little corner. 556 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,880 Speaker 1: The corner is pretty pretty nice. Watched him last year. 557 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 1: Somebody told me might come out last year, so I 558 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: picked out in my game, like third third round grade 559 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 1: he's he's a good player. Yeah, they have to have 560 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: some really good players. I'm exciting, but this this is 561 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: the weekend. Oh every game this weekend, it's phenomenal rivalry. 562 00:25:20,680 --> 00:25:24,400 Speaker 1: Rivalry that's tough to all those rs. We gotta being 563 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: able to see Michigan Ohio State huge game. Because I 564 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 1: don't know about you, but when I go to school 565 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 1: calls or when i'm looking at games, I'm looking at 566 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 1: top prospects, I'm looking to see them, and those five 567 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:36,919 Speaker 1: star marquee games, those games they have a little extra 568 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: to him. Those rivalry games, those conference championship championship games, 569 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: and sometimes certain bowl games, particularly in the playoffs, Guys 570 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,640 Speaker 1: that can rise up in those games kind of give 571 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:50,679 Speaker 1: a little extra, little extra credit to Well. I'll tell 572 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 1: you what. Somebody that's gonna be paying attention to all 573 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:56,119 Speaker 1: these college players while he's paying attention to his NFL 574 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: team is Buffalo Bills general manager Doug Walley and Buck 575 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: I'm stoked we got him. We got him on the line. 576 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 1: Here get a chance to visit with him. Well, please 577 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,800 Speaker 1: to to be joined by Buffalo Bills general manage. You're 578 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: Doug Whaley taking some time to visit us we appreciate it. Doug. 579 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: Look you guys, uh you fought all the way back 580 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,080 Speaker 1: five and five. What's your your quick assessment here of 581 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 1: how the team and how the year is gone. I 582 00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: think right now we're building. We have to try to 583 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: get some consistency. Um, we had it with a four 584 00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: game winning streak. Obviously we stumbled coming out of the blocks, 585 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: hit a nice little win streak, and then we stumbled again. 586 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,440 Speaker 1: So um, now we we went into Cincinnati be a 587 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 1: team that uh, we're a similar position with us fighting 588 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,360 Speaker 1: for their lives in this a f C playoff race. 589 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 1: We came out with a victory and we're looking to 590 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 1: again just build on that and try to get some 591 00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 1: consistency and try to be on the upswing on this 592 00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 1: final playoff push. You know, Doug, I want to go 593 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 1: beyond your your team. I read somewhere read some comments 594 00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: that you made about building a championship team, and you 595 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,680 Speaker 1: talked about having six core guys or six guys that 596 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: you could quote unquote pay and you talked about the quarterback, 597 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: the officers tackle a playmaker. Then on defensive pass rush, 598 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: your corner a playmaker. Can you spend a little on that, 599 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: because I don't know if a lot of viewers kind 600 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: of understand the philosophy of building a team in that manner. Well, 601 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: in the system that we have today with a salary cap, 602 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:19,359 Speaker 1: you can't pay everybody, So you have to really identify 603 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: as an organization, from ownership to management to coaching, what 604 00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 1: would be the core players that we think would be 605 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: a cornerstone to consistently keep for compete for a championship. 606 00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: And the first guy, obviously is the quarterback. I mean, 607 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 1: this is a quarterback driven league, and if you don't 608 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: have one of those guys, then you do have some 609 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 1: flexibility to pay other guys. But everybody's on a quest 610 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 1: to find that that guy. And uh, once you have 611 00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: that quarterback, you have to have a guy to protect him, 612 00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 1: and that's where the left tackle comes into place. You've 613 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: got to have a guy that can keep your quarterback 614 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: up right, because if he's injured and always getting hit 615 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: and not having the time to find and be efficient, 616 00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 1: then he's he's rendered moot um. And then on the 617 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: at the end of it, he's got to have somebody 618 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 1: that he can get the ball to, a playmaker like 619 00:28:08,040 --> 00:28:11,399 Speaker 1: a ship Sammy Watkins or Shady McCoy fortisly for us. 620 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:16,000 Speaker 1: We have two playmakers Um and on defense again passing Lake. 621 00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,720 Speaker 1: So you have a guy to have to have a 622 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,919 Speaker 1: guy to get after the quarterback, and you have to 623 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: have a guy that to cover the wide receivers Um. 624 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 1: And then if you can sprinkle in another playmaker there 625 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 1: be a defensive lineman like we have Marcel Darius, then 626 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: those six guys can be the cornerstone or your team. 627 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: And those six guys are gonna eat up a lot 628 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: of your salary cap. So then the onus is on us, 629 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: the management and the personnel staff to draft well, to 630 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:45,160 Speaker 1: restock that roster every year with young players that can 631 00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 1: help UH supplement where you cannot spend the rest of 632 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,959 Speaker 1: your money. Doug, I was. I was with your head 633 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: coach in Baltimore with Rex, and we we used to 634 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: always have that phrase play like a raven. I'm sure 635 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:57,520 Speaker 1: you've heard it from from Rex a million times. So 636 00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: when you say that it was kind of what we 637 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: were looking for. You talk about the key positions. This 638 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: is more about the key traits that are going to 639 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:06,120 Speaker 1: making those players. So if I was gonna ask you 640 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: your philosophy to play like a bill Um, what is 641 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: that you're looking for in guys? Um, It starts with 642 00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 1: those guys loving the process. Loving the process to get 643 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: you to Sunday. Everybody loves Sundays and what Sundays brings 644 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: to them, But for us, we want guys that love 645 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:27,440 Speaker 1: the Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, they even the offseason, 646 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:30,240 Speaker 1: and love to do things when people aren't looking. Anybody 647 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,360 Speaker 1: can do something when you're told to do it or 648 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 1: when the camera's on you, but what are you doing 649 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: when the cameras not on you? So loving the process 650 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 1: is what one of the cornerstone things that what we 651 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: think of playing like a bill is. And then loving 652 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 1: the game. You have to be able to no matter 653 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: what's going on in your life, be able to shut 654 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: it out and give it all for for not only 655 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 1: for you, but for your team and your your teammates 656 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 1: and the coaches and the and the and the team 657 00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 1: as a whole and the team's fan as So those 658 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,320 Speaker 1: are two characteristics. And then the last thing we look 659 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: for is what we call junkyard dogs, Guys that no 660 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,000 Speaker 1: matter what's going on, when it's fourth and one and 661 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 1: the game's on the line and it's for the victory, 662 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,560 Speaker 1: everybody's looking at each other saying, I'm not gonna let 663 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: this guy down because he's got that junkyard dog in him, 664 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: and that inspires people to just lay it on the line. 665 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: So those types of those are three things that we 666 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 1: we look for when we say we want a guy 667 00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: that play like a bill the way. The way you 668 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:29,560 Speaker 1: just described that, by the way, reminds me of this 669 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,600 Speaker 1: guy in the draft last year from Clemson, rushed the 670 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 1: pastor a little bit, and it just sounds like you 671 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: just described him just about perfect. Oh yeah, you ended 672 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: up drafting him. So yeah, we're we're we're pretty uh vanilla. 673 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: I guess you could say. I mean, we're not too intricate. 674 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: It's not it's not a rocket science. I'm not the 675 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:50,080 Speaker 1: smartest guy. But we identified those those traits and players, 676 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: you know, obviously they have to have the skill level 677 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: to play this game, but the stuff off the field 678 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: is is very important these days, and those are the 679 00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: traits that we really look for. You know, the thing 680 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 1: about traits you talked about to be in a quarterback 681 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:04,480 Speaker 1: driven league, but so much of the college game has 682 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 1: changed how we as pros have to look at the 683 00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 1: quarterback position. Talk about the challenges of finding a quarterback 684 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 1: in today's game, when so many quarterbacks are coming out 685 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,160 Speaker 1: of spread systems and so many guys, maybe these dual 686 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: threat guys that you're trying to teach to play in 687 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: a pro style manner. It's tough and obviously, like you 688 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: said that, the college game is getting so far away 689 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: from the pro game. It puts a real hardship on 690 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,680 Speaker 1: us trying to identify and to scout these quarterbacks. And 691 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: a lot of times, you know, I hate to say it, 692 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: but uh, and I'm not very eloquent with my words, 693 00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 1: but a lot of times you see these guys they're 694 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 1: basically joysticks because the offensive coordinator tells them what the 695 00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 1: play is, what the coverage is, and exactly where to throw. 696 00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: So they're just out there performing the duty like a joystick. 697 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 1: So then you have to find out what do they know? 698 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: Do they know how to identify the mic? Do they 699 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: know how to set the fronts? Do they know how 700 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: to call line protections? Do they know how to read coverages? 701 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: Do they know how to see a disguise coverage and 702 00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:06,200 Speaker 1: what it would go to? So there's the learning curve 703 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: is getting steeper and steeper for these guys coming out 704 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 1: of college and going in a pros and uh, it 705 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 1: makes it difficult not only for us to scout them 706 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 1: and find out who may possibly have that trade, but 707 00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: once they get here to be able to develop that 708 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: that those traits for somebody that has never had to 709 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:25,880 Speaker 1: do it. So it's a difficult thing. And unfortunately it's 710 00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 1: for the most difficult position, but the most important position. 711 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: So it makes it very, very tough. So you believe 712 00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,320 Speaker 1: in the the old theory of you build your team 713 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:36,719 Speaker 1: to win your division. And if if you do believe that, 714 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: how do you go about building a team that has 715 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: to deal with Tom Brady? What what goes into that 716 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: scouting process? Maybe in that room when you're asking the questions, 717 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: how does this guy help us beat him? Uh? Again, 718 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: you are correct to to to get to where you 719 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,760 Speaker 1: need to go and to to cement yourself into the playoffs, 720 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: you have to win your division. We don't want to 721 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: build a team that's fighting for for wild card spots, 722 00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:02,360 Speaker 1: and to do that, we have to right now beat 723 00:33:02,360 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 1: the best, and the best is Tom Brady. And right 724 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: now it's for us is just getting a collection of 725 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: guys that we believe and believe in themselves can go 726 00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,040 Speaker 1: out there and lay it on the line and aren't 727 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: afraid to try to climb Mount Everest. And right now 728 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: Mount Everest at the top of it is Tom Brady. 729 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,720 Speaker 1: And we have to do whatever we can do, find 730 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: whoever we can find, and put a collection of those 731 00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,520 Speaker 1: guys together and go out there and try to knock 732 00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: off the champs. Easier said than done. And but that's 733 00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 1: nothing that's deterring us. And we're okay with those odds, 734 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: and we're gonna keep working until we get there. You know, Duck, 735 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: so much of the National Football League they talk about 736 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: the devaluation of the running back position. However, I believe 737 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,560 Speaker 1: the position has been diminished in importance. You have a 738 00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,040 Speaker 1: guy in Shade McCoy that has all the traits that 739 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: you look for. What are some of the things that 740 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 1: you look for in the running back position when you 741 00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 1: think about a guy that can be a feature back. 742 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: I think the number one thing is instincts Um, there's 743 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: a lot of guys. If you Bucky, you've been around 744 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,240 Speaker 1: the game. Both you guys have been around the game 745 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: long enough. And when you talk to those, uh, the 746 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: established running backs, the career leading rush years. I had 747 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,240 Speaker 1: a conversation with Curtis Martin the other day and sometimes 748 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: you ask him, well, how did you do that, and 749 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: they just said, you just do it. You know, it's 750 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: something that's natural to them. So instincts, to me are 751 00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 1: are very top of the list of characteristics. Are running 752 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 1: back has to have and determination. Determination If it's third 753 00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 1: and one, I'm not going to be stopped. So guys, 754 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: and then obviously then you want a guy that has 755 00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: some hands, the ball, security, the willingness to block. But 756 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,400 Speaker 1: I think the number one characteristists is instincts. Well, like 757 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 1: before I let you go, last question from me, we 758 00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: talk a lot about our old war stories from the road, 759 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,600 Speaker 1: and one things we've always respected about you. You came 760 00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:48,840 Speaker 1: up through the process. You've done every job there is 761 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 1: to do. So I just need one, maybe some remote 762 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 1: scouting trip for you way back in the day when 763 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: you're with the Seahawks, maybe you're up there somewhere up 764 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: the East coast. I need to, like your favorite small school, 765 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 1: just random scouting story from back in the day. I'd 766 00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 1: have to probably say my one of my first years 767 00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: on the road, I went to Villanova Villanova to see 768 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: why receiver Brian Finneran, And I was it was probably 769 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:17,520 Speaker 1: my first or second game um by myself as a 770 00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,200 Speaker 1: as a young scout, and I parked the car in 771 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: the parking lot. I'm getting all my stuff together, my 772 00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,120 Speaker 1: binocular is, my notepad, my credential. Shut the door. I 773 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: actually locked the door from inside. Shut the door. Go 774 00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 1: to the game. Sitting at the press box, and I'm 775 00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: watching the pregame and get all my notes from body types. 776 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: Get up to the press box, sit down, put everything 777 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: on the counter. Where's my car keys? No car keys? 778 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,400 Speaker 1: So I it gets it gets better. So I have 779 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: some time before kickoff. I go out and I'm like, 780 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: all right, maybe I left him in the car. Not 781 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: only did I lock the car and the mckeys in 782 00:35:53,719 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: the car, the car was still running. That favorite, that's 783 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: a strong one. So it was a it was a 784 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 1: young anxious scout that was just really hyped to get 785 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,759 Speaker 1: to get to work. So that that I'll give you 786 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:12,120 Speaker 1: that story. That's that's a good one. Hey, Doug, we 787 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:14,160 Speaker 1: appreciate you taking the time. Best of luck for the 788 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: rest of the season with you and the Buffalo Bills man. 789 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 1: Thanks fellas, appreciate it. Fantastic Buck. Great to catch up 790 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 1: with with Doug Whaley. Um, this team is kind of 791 00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,320 Speaker 1: right in the thick of it right now. Been a 792 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,000 Speaker 1: little bit up and down, but the trending in the 793 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: right direction. Got a lot of good young pieces on 794 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: that roster, and uh look forward to watching them down 795 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,239 Speaker 1: the stretch. But really, really good, dude, No, really good dude. 796 00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: And that's the one thing that you can talk about 797 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills like. They haven't necessarily one to the 798 00:36:38,120 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: level of expectation, but there's no disputing the talent that 799 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,239 Speaker 1: they have on both sides of the ball. Continue to 800 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: put pieces in place and we'll see where he goes. 801 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: But you have to like where they're going because they 802 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: appear to be trending in the right direction. All Right, 803 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: we gotta get some more GMS on here. It's always 804 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 1: fun to visit with these guys, all right, Buck, that's 805 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,000 Speaker 1: gonna do it for us today. I don't know for 806 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: sure if we're gonna have another show, another audio show 807 00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,080 Speaker 1: this week. We'll see. Maybe we'll have one, maybe we won't. 808 00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,120 Speaker 1: Put a great slate of college football games, nice NFL 809 00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:06,960 Speaker 1: slate as well. We will be back soon, I can't 810 00:37:07,000 --> 00:37:08,759 Speaker 1: tell you when, but soon. If we don't. 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