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Speaker 1: of a lot of stress being put on us from
Speaker 1: the media about oh my gosh, the tariffs and what's
Speaker 1: going on here. First of all, here's a reminder from
Speaker 1: our buddy Stephen Miller, who's the deputy White House Chief
Speaker 1: of Staff, that what's going on right now is not
Speaker 1: a typical presidency. It is fixing and setting right big
Speaker 1: part of what this country, America is all about, not
Speaker 1: just for this week or this month, but for future
Speaker 1: years and even generations to come. Play nine.
Speaker 2: This is the great healing and rejuvenation of the American
Speaker 2: economy after half a century of rampant offshoring, outsourcing, and
Speaker 2: de industrialization. There was once a time in which Motor
Speaker 2: City in Michigan Detroit automakers powered the entire globe. There
Speaker 2: was once a time when you could drive through Pennsylvania
Speaker 2: and all you would see were humming steel mills, humming
Speaker 2: coal plants, manufacturing facilities again that were supplying the entire world,
Speaker 2: supplying Americans and all the planet earth. Foreign countries, countries
Speaker 2: like China, Canada, Mexico, Cambodia, Vietnam, and the European Union
Speaker 2: took advantage of our country and our leaders.
Speaker 1: So we know that the tariffs are a major focus
Speaker 1: with the economy right now from the Trump administration, and
Speaker 1: there's going to be uh here you go. Trump's Liberation
Speaker 1: Day tariffs will go into effect immediately, according to the
Speaker 1: White House. Just eight minutes ago, Clay President Donald Trump's
Speaker 1: promised tariffs are a day away, and they'll go into
Speaker 1: effects sooner than some had expected, as in immediately, according
Speaker 1: to the White House, Liberation Day trade policy announcement is
Speaker 1: expected to be the most aggressive tariff move yet by
Speaker 1: President Trump, and he has vowed to slap tariffs on
Speaker 1: US imports for a whole range of different solutions. Now, Clay,
Speaker 1: they're saying this is going to be costly. They're saying
Speaker 1: this is going to create a lot of economic dislocation.
Speaker 1: And to be fair, even here's Senator of Tuberville, who
Speaker 1: is a big Trump guy, big Trump supporter. We've had
Speaker 1: him on the show many times, and he is the
Speaker 1: one through which to whom I'm supposed to say war eagle.
Speaker 1: That is correct.
Speaker 3: By the way, roll Tide probably celebrating over the weekend
Speaker 3: as the Auburn Tigers rolled into the Final four for
Speaker 3: their second time. I'm ever playing against your wife's alma mater,
Speaker 3: the Florida Gators on Saturday, Big Game.
Speaker 1: My beloved Florida Gators because they are my wife's beloved.
Speaker 1: So whatever the Florida Gators, whatever I could do for them,
Speaker 1: I love doing. But here we go. Here's Senator Tubberville
Speaker 1: on the tariff situation. You say, look, it's not going
Speaker 1: to be without a little bit of a little bit
Speaker 1: of pain before we get to the game play it.
Speaker 4: This is one thing that President Trump has got to sell.
Speaker 4: But it's also going work, but it's going to be
Speaker 4: a slow pain first. Before we get the game, we
Speaker 4: have to get jobs back in this country. We have
Speaker 4: to get manufacturing to come back. We can't control that
Speaker 4: is a Senate. The one thing that we can control,
Speaker 4: as you said, we can control the tax cuts. We
Speaker 4: have to get those done, and we have to get
Speaker 4: it done this week, and we'll let President Trump do
Speaker 4: the tariffs, we do the tax cuts, get the debt
Speaker 4: limit put in, with this reconciliation fund, the border wall fund,
Speaker 4: all of the immigration process that's going on. We have
Speaker 4: to get back to business up here. We've been dragging
Speaker 4: our feet. But I think with the tariffs this week
Speaker 4: and also the budget budget reconciliation that we'll do for
Speaker 4: the tax cuts, I think it is all gonna come together.
Speaker 1: So Clay, I think at some level what we're seeing
Speaker 1: here is Trump is right on the has been and
Speaker 1: continues to be right on. The immigration issue. Has proven
Speaker 1: the case. The numbers speak for themselves. The border is
Speaker 1: the most secure it has been in truly decades. A
Speaker 1: lot of interior enforcements has to happen. We can get
Speaker 1: into some of those numbers DHS Christy Nome talking about that.
Speaker 1: We can get into that in a little bit. But
Speaker 1: on the economic side of things, what Dose is doing
Speaker 1: is important. But the terriff issue might even have more
Speaker 1: short term political impact if things get rough between now
Speaker 1: and really next summer, all right or not? This coming
Speaker 1: summer be the following summer before the midterms, right, so really,
Speaker 1: you've got fifteen months or so if this starts to
Speaker 1: look like it's blowing up in Trump's face, even if
Speaker 1: the media is able to make that case, and that's
Speaker 1: not a fair assessment of it. The problem here is
Speaker 1: what happens if the midterms go against the Republicans because
Speaker 1: of the tariffs. It slows the whole agenda down. So
Speaker 1: it feels like it's a gamble, but it's one that
Speaker 1: Trump is all in on.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I don't know about you, but economic geniuses
Speaker 3: have gotten so much wrong. My trust level in experts
Speaker 3: is at an all time low personally because everything they
Speaker 3: have told us for the past several years, it feels
Speaker 3: like the experts are batting zero on pretty much every
Speaker 3: major issue that has occurred. Now until tomorrow, we won't
Speaker 3: know exactly what Trump has planned, but I do think
Speaker 3: it's significant that Israel just announced that they were ending
Speaker 3: all tariffs on American goods in the last few hours.
Speaker 1: What is your kind of Let me ask you this,
Speaker 1: because I think we've talked about this a little bit,
Speaker 1: but I haven't I asked this question. I asked this honestly.
Speaker 1: If tariff are so self evidently self defeating, why do
Speaker 1: so many countries have tariffs against the United States on
Speaker 1: different issues? Why does Canada have a two hundred percent
Speaker 1: dairy tariff for US dairy imports If it's so stupid
Speaker 1: and it does nothing good for them. And that's just
Speaker 1: one of hundreds that we could talk about here, never
Speaker 1: mind China and the policies that they have visa EI
Speaker 1: the rest of the world.
Speaker 3: I think where Trump is right is we have a
Speaker 3: lot less to lose on tariffs than other countries do.
Speaker 3: And what I mean by that is, this is what
Speaker 3: happens when you are a net importer of goods when
Speaker 3: we have the massive trade deficit that we do. Now,
Speaker 3: the arguments out there, for those of you that are
Speaker 3: paying attention, the economic gurus of the world who are
Speaker 3: opposed to tariffs would say, well, yes, the United States
Speaker 3: is a net importer of goods. That is, we spend
Speaker 3: more money than we uh than than we make off
Speaker 3: of our products. But the result is that our products
Speaker 3: that we purchase are incredibly affordable. And I would just
Speaker 3: use as an example, Buck, I'm sure you remember this.
Speaker 3: Back in the day. One of the most expensive things
Speaker 3: I bought when Laura and I first got married was
Speaker 3: a flatscreen television. Do you remember when flatscreen televisions were
Speaker 3: like five six thousand dollars?
Speaker 1: They were really expensive. I remember pooling money with my
Speaker 1: college roommates to get for our common room. Yes, that
Speaker 1: you know, because we all we all lived in like
Speaker 1: the shared housing, to get for our common room, and
Speaker 1: we carried it was it was like when they find
Speaker 1: the Arc of the Covenant in Raiders of the Lost ARCA.
Speaker 1: We carried that thing with reverence up the stairs.
Speaker 3: Yes, that flat screen television. Many of you out there
Speaker 3: are going to remember when you were able to first
Speaker 3: buy one. Speaking of costco which your wife, Carrie loves,
Speaker 3: and one of the few were working.
Speaker 1: On this, we're working on the Wokeness over there.
Speaker 3: One of the few places that I actually walk into
Speaker 3: you can get a seventy inch flat screen television for
Speaker 3: like seven hundred bucks. Now, now these things are manufactured
Speaker 3: almost entirely outside the United States. The reason why I
Speaker 3: use flat screen television's example is that is something where
Speaker 3: you would say the average American consumer is getting a
Speaker 3: really good deal because flat screen televisions can be made
Speaker 3: more affordably elsewhere. I mean almost everybody. I'm holding mine
Speaker 3: up for video. Almost everybody has an iPhone.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 3: iPhones are almost exclusively manufactured in China and the Philippines.
Speaker 3: I think now now they're starting, Apple has said we're
Speaker 3: going to invest more money in them. But the reason
Speaker 3: why Apple has the profit margins it does is because
Speaker 3: of the manufacturer. There sneakers, all sorts of products.
Speaker 1: Okay, so they used to make them all at Fox
Speaker 1: Con where they had to put up nets to prevent
Speaker 1: people from jumping out and committing suicide for about the
Speaker 1: hours they were working so rough stuff.
Speaker 3: Well, this is also why I got so fired up
Speaker 3: over the Nike.
Speaker 1: Products. You know, the NBA player.
Speaker 3: Saying, oh, America's an awful place and where you know
Speaker 3: our people are being taken advantage of, and then they
Speaker 3: never mentioned that their tennis shoes are being made basically
Speaker 3: oftentimes for slave labor overseas, and they make hundreds of
Speaker 3: millions of dollars off of those deals. The most ridiculous
Speaker 3: of them actually had deals with Chinese sneaker companies Buck
Speaker 3: that bragged about the fact that they used slave labor
Speaker 3: in Xingxiang Province cotton produced there. So the modern day
Speaker 3: NBA star athlete with a Chinese sneaker deal, and there
Speaker 3: were many of them, was actually making money off slave labor.
Speaker 3: And meanwhile they're lecturing all of us about how America
Speaker 3: is an awful country and taking these during the national anthem.
Speaker 3: The hypocrisy was too much. So the argument is, Okay,
Speaker 3: yes we are net x our money is leaving the country,
Speaker 3: but we're getting better value than we would if that
Speaker 3: was produced here. I don't know that that is one
Speaker 3: hundred percent true. In other words, what would it look like.
Speaker 3: I've made this argument for a long time Lebron James.
Speaker 3: What if Lebron James had said, Hey, I'm asking all
Speaker 3: these people to make pay two hundred dollars for sneakers.
Speaker 3: What if he had gone to Nike and said, I
Speaker 3: want my sneakers produced in Akron, Ohio, a industrial Midwest city,
Speaker 3: that is struggling, and I understand the profit margins will
Speaker 3: be lower, but we'll be able to employ a lot
Speaker 3: of Americans to make my shoes. That would have actually
Speaker 3: been a really interesting argument. Of course, Lebron's never going
Speaker 3: to say it, because all he cares about the money
Speaker 3: that he's making, not about the larger society. But my
Speaker 3: point on this is some guys that have the economic
Speaker 3: power to relocate to resource actual goods here and create
Speaker 3: American jobs that are high paying that people who otherwise
Speaker 3: wouldn't get them deserve them. This is the argument that
Speaker 3: Trump's making. He basically is doing the anti Lebron. He's saying,
Speaker 3: we should be making goods that Americans buy here, and
Speaker 3: we're going to level the playing field to help make
Speaker 3: that happen.
Speaker 1: This is one of the areas where Trump is going
Speaker 1: the most against the consensus, even on the Republican side.
Speaker 1: Longstanding Republican institutions, think tanks, gop apparatus, you name it.
Speaker 1: Free trade has been a almost a religious mantra on
Speaker 1: the right for as long as you and I have
Speaker 1: been alive, and really is going back to Milton Friedman
Speaker 1: in free trade has been a thing that you just say,
Speaker 1: and everyone has to assume it's the best possible way. Now,
Speaker 1: theoretically I can see why, and when I hear the
Speaker 1: arguments about this, I go, yeah, of course, it seems
Speaker 1: like everybody, everybody benefits, you know, when you have free
Speaker 1: a free trade system. Challenge, though, is we don't have
Speaker 1: free trade globally. That's right. So this is where and
Speaker 1: this is when Trump came in with China on the
Speaker 1: first term, they said he's going to start a trade war,
Speaker 1: and the people who really knew what was going on
Speaker 1: specifically with China said, we're already in a trade war
Speaker 1: with China. We're just not doing anything. And Biden didn't
Speaker 1: change anything. But that's exactly the point that he won
Speaker 1: on that one ye, that he went against the consensus
Speaker 1: so much so that even Biden's like, look, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna mess with this stuff. He's so was this another
Speaker 1: one of those moments, And I bring this to the
Speaker 1: it's really to me. To me, it's more almost a
Speaker 1: question of logic or common sense. If this is so
Speaker 1: bad and self defeating, which you are hearing not just
Speaker 1: from Democrats who hate Trump, forget about them. We don't care.
Speaker 1: They don't know any about the economy. They want to
Speaker 1: ruin Western civilization. A lot of Republicans are saying, ah,
Speaker 1: I don't know about this. Ah, it's gonna be rough
Speaker 1: for the market, so telling me to kind of brace
Speaker 1: for impact. Okay, But if there aren't any benefits to this,
Speaker 1: why do other countries do them? Same way that I Clay,
Speaker 1: I always knew that they're lying. The media was lying
Speaker 1: to us about a legal immigration because you could never
Speaker 1: get somebody in the media to admit that a legal
Speaker 1: immigration had a downside. Well, if it has no downside,
Speaker 1: why do we want to stop it? R Yes, it
Speaker 1: makes no sense. Same thing I feel like with tariffs.
Speaker 1: If tariffs are only downside, why are other people doing it?
Speaker 1: I mean, other countries doing it for decades and very
Speaker 1: aggressive about it. So I think it's about things that
Speaker 1: you want and think things that you can get, and
Speaker 1: there's a negotiation to be had here.
Speaker 3: I also think, and we'll know more tomorrow afternoon four
Speaker 3: o'clock Eastern.
Speaker 1: This is scheduled.
Speaker 3: Markets really hate uncertainty, whatever you think of any particular
Speaker 3: economic decision. As soon as business can understand what the
Speaker 3: cost structure is going to be and adjust accordingly, oftentimes
Speaker 3: we see the markets adjust, and to me Buck, part
Speaker 3: of the biggest challenge here in general has been we
Speaker 3: don't really know what the implementation of these policies going
Speaker 3: to look like. Come tomorrow afternoon. In theory, we will
Speaker 3: have an idea of exactly what Trump trade policy looks like.
Speaker 1: And if you watch the stock market on a.
Speaker 3: Regular basis, typically when the stock market moves is when
Speaker 3: something hasn't been priced. There is a surprise, there is
Speaker 3: an uncertainty, there is an expectation that is upset relative
Speaker 3: to the existing marketplace. I would say, in general is
Speaker 3: what I've said for a long time time by S
Speaker 3: and P five hundred. Index funds don't overreact to any
Speaker 3: day to day market manipulation or movement. And if you
Speaker 3: believe that the future of America is bright, and I do,
Speaker 3: every ten years or so, your index fund should double.
Speaker 1: And most of.
Speaker 3: The time, people get in trouble when they respond emotionally
Speaker 3: to stock market prices. You look at prices going down,
Speaker 3: people sell. You look at prices going up, people think
Speaker 3: they're always going to go up. Most people are emotional,
Speaker 3: not as much rational, which is why the best thing
Speaker 3: to do with your four oh one ks is not
Speaker 3: pay that much attention to it on a day to
Speaker 3: day basis. I get that it's hard, but that is
Speaker 3: my best advice. And tomorrow at four o'clock, I'm sure
Speaker 3: we'll be talking about this on Thursday show. Hey, what
Speaker 3: do we expect the actual impact is going to be?
Speaker 3: And what will the stock market do? Will get that
Speaker 3: first kind of read on that Thursday.
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Speaker 3: Welcome back in two different races in the state of Florida.
Speaker 3: I'm down in Miami with Buck right now from his
Speaker 3: studio up in the northern part of Florida. Florida one,
Speaker 3: the Panhandle, also Daytona and Saint Augustine area, Florida six.
Speaker 3: Jimmy Patronis joins us now the next congressman. If you
Speaker 3: guys keep showing up and voting like you are in
Speaker 3: the Florida first District. Jimmy, good to talk with you.
Speaker 3: Appreciate you coming on. What can you tell us about
Speaker 3: what you're seeing in Florida one and if people are
Speaker 3: listening both in your district and in the sixth district
Speaker 3: of Florida.
Speaker 1: What is the importance of getting out and voting here?
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we're it's a beautiful day for getting out
Speaker 6: in the vote. So there's no weather, it's gonna slow
Speaker 6: anybody down. It's seventy seventy some degrees here in the
Speaker 6: paint Handle. So so grateful for everybody that has showed
Speaker 6: up and voted early. But today's the last day to
Speaker 6: let your vote count. And the Republicans have been out
Speaker 6: out tracking the Democrats. So we feel good. But you
Speaker 6: can't take anything for granted. I tell people all the time,
Speaker 6: if you don't hold your electeds accountable, you get the
Speaker 6: government you deserve. And you know, just really it's an
Speaker 6: honor to be on the air with y'all.
Speaker 1: Hey, Jimmy, we appreciate you and and we hope you
Speaker 1: run off the scoreboard in a big way. Who are
Speaker 1: they even? Who are they even running against you? There?
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I know, we all feel pretty
Speaker 1: good about a Clay consistently refers to the Panhandle as
Speaker 1: God's country, Although he doesn't want more people buying beachfront
Speaker 1: on the Gulf of America. There's not he left. He says,
Speaker 1: it's getting very crowded. But who are they running against
Speaker 1: you in God's country? So to speak? What do we
Speaker 1: need to know about this Democrat that they're throwing throwing
Speaker 1: into the mix.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so the same woman who ran against Matt Gates
Speaker 6: last time in November. Her name is gab Alamont. And look,
Speaker 6: I'm sure she's she's the fine person, but her her
Speaker 6: policies are flawed. You know what she is advocating for.
Speaker 6: She's trying to run as a moderate and uh and
Speaker 6: look she's got seven million dollars And I'm looking forward
Speaker 6: to the night at about seven thirty, you know, looking
Speaker 6: into the camera and acknowledging that theyre's about seven million
Speaker 6: reasons why their their effort is not the right message
Speaker 6: for Northwest Florida. The amount of money that we've been
Speaker 6: out spent probably five to one. But the Democrats are
Speaker 6: seeing six and one as a way to flip flip
Speaker 6: the balance of power in Congress and trying to do
Speaker 6: a referendum on Trump. But you know, the people in
Speaker 6: these two districts are just too educated.
Speaker 3: For people who don't know what is Florida one, where
Speaker 3: is it located? I just want to make sure because
Speaker 3: there's lots of people driving around. You know, as well
Speaker 3: as anybody. People get fired up for November elections. But
Speaker 3: a lot of times these special elections we've been talking about,
Speaker 3: the two in Florida, that the one in Wisconsin that's
Speaker 3: going today, they can slip under the radar. Where right
Speaker 3: now in Florida one can people go vote for you?
Speaker 3: Sometimes you know this, people don't even know exactly what
Speaker 3: congressional district they're in. I'll put myself on blast here.
Speaker 3: When they redid the redrew the lines in Tennessee where
Speaker 3: I live, the difference between one congressman and another came
Speaker 3: into my neighborhood. One streets represented by one congressman, the
Speaker 3: other is another one I didn't know. I didn't know
Speaker 3: who was my congressman until I actually went in and
Speaker 3: had the opportunity to vote. So, just for people who
Speaker 3: may not know where in Florida one can people go
Speaker 3: vote today?
Speaker 1: Where do they need to show up?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So Florida one goes from from Pensacola and the
Speaker 6: Alabama state line over between Pennscalle and Mobile and he
Speaker 6: goes all the way to the edge of Panama City.
Speaker 6: So it stops Highway three thirty one, so that's a
Speaker 6: Scambia and a Rosa, Okaloosa and parts of Walton County.
Speaker 6: You can go to join Jimmy dot com. At the
Speaker 6: top of the page. There's a link. You tap it
Speaker 6: and it says where do I vote? Where's my precinct?
Speaker 6: And then we will go through and direct you to
Speaker 6: where you can vote. So it's uh again, today's the
Speaker 6: day that you would actually go to your regular precinct
Speaker 6: that you would vote on in a November election. And
Speaker 6: you were spot on, people or everything's got seasons to it,
Speaker 6: and the seasons for elections are in November. People know
Speaker 6: to vote November. They don't know to vote in April.
Speaker 6: And oh, by the way, it's April Fool's Day.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 3: And Trump won year district I think by thirty seven
Speaker 3: or thirty eight points, So that sounds good. By the way,
Speaker 3: people honking in the background. If you're listening to Clay
Speaker 3: and Buck, that's one of the prefets. That's a good problem.
Speaker 3: If you're listening to Clay and Buck in Florida one
Speaker 3: right now and you see the congressman driving by, the
Speaker 3: next congressman, you can honk at him and let us know.
Speaker 3: Let us know that you guys back. But this is
Speaker 3: a dyed, rocked ribbed district. But it's important for everybody
Speaker 3: to get out. Don't just rely on the fact. Again
Speaker 3: it's April fools. A lot of people may not be
Speaker 3: aware that this is going on.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and again with the amount of money that they've
Speaker 6: spent running as a moderate, destroying and trying to trash
Speaker 6: my reputation. I was born and raised in the Central
Speaker 6: time zone. I've been part of this Communian whole time effect.
Speaker 6: I think, Clay, I think you and I shared the
Speaker 6: same studio one time. I used to be on the
Speaker 6: radio there in Panama City for a while, and I
Speaker 6: think y'all used to come in and do the show.
Speaker 3: Jimmy, that's a story I've shared with Buck when I
Speaker 3: did early morning sports talker radio in that Panama City studio.
Speaker 1: Loved the guys there.
Speaker 3: But I was on at five am there, and sometimes
Speaker 3: it's won't shock you there weren't people there to let
Speaker 3: me in the building. So I have started my show
Speaker 3: before from the parking lot of that Panama City, Florida studio.
Speaker 1: It's a great signal.
Speaker 3: We love all of you down on the Gulf coasts
Speaker 3: that are listening right now, but there is it's not
Speaker 3: far to the Eastern time zone, and so sometimes people
Speaker 3: would get all crossed up as to what time things started.
Speaker 3: And yeah, my boy DJ K Dub, who was in
Speaker 3: charge of letting me in back in the day, buck
Speaker 3: was sometimes late. But yeah, Jimmy, that's a that's a
Speaker 3: fabulous station. I know there's a lot of people listening
Speaker 3: to us right now as you're driving there on Highway
Speaker 3: ninety eight headed I think to Penscola.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, and I'd say it's just a radio is
Speaker 6: so amazing. It's intimate. You know, people get to become
Speaker 6: your family, you know, and that's what I love about
Speaker 6: what y'all are doing. I mean, you're connecting with folks
Speaker 6: and they really they feel like they know you and
Speaker 6: know everything about you because they spend so much time
Speaker 6: and you build their day out. So I mean, it's
Speaker 6: it's this is such an amazing way to get news out,
Speaker 6: to communicate and to make people informed.
Speaker 1: Totally totally right, Jimmy, And we're talking to Jimmy Petronos.
Speaker 1: He's running for that important congressional seat the first in Florida,
Speaker 1: beautiful part of the country up in the Panhandle. We
Speaker 1: got that. We've also got the sixth congressional seat formerly
Speaker 1: held by Michael Waltz. It is in the mix with
Speaker 1: Randy Fine today. Make sure we have a huge Florida audience.
Speaker 1: Make sure for those of you who live in those
Speaker 1: districts you get out and vote. Got to run up
Speaker 1: the scoreboard high, because otherwise you're gonna be reading in
Speaker 1: the New York Times front page tomorrow. Oh Trump agenda stalling.
Speaker 1: They you know, they went from thirty points to twenty
Speaker 1: five points winning. You know, so got to run up
Speaker 1: those scoreboards and to that end. Jimmy, first of all,
Speaker 1: totally agree with what you said about radio. Clint. I
Speaker 1: always joke about how when people know you from the
Speaker 1: radio show, they just come up and talk to you
Speaker 1: because they're your friends. There's no like, oh, there's there's
Speaker 1: no trepidation or is it okay? Or am I in everything?
Speaker 1: They come up to me. They're like, how's ginger, how's
Speaker 1: carry it? And I love it. I mean those are
Speaker 1: our radio people. And same thing with Clay. They know
Speaker 1: his wife and his kids' names. But tell me about
Speaker 1: what you want to get at the top of the agenda,
Speaker 1: working with fellow members of Congress on the Republican side
Speaker 1: for the Trump agenda once you are seated.
Speaker 6: Sure, So Northwest Mordian, that first Canal District has got
Speaker 6: five military installations. So not only does the military economy
Speaker 6: important to Northwest Florida. There's so many vital missions to
Speaker 6: our national security, but because of the military presence and
Speaker 6: how beautiful this place is, we've got the largest per
Speaker 6: capita retired veterans population anywhere in the nation, So you know,
Speaker 6: those VA services are critically important. At the same time,
Speaker 6: making sure that the missions continue to be enhanced in
Speaker 6: Northwest Florida. We've got a welcome mat in front of
Speaker 6: every one of our households here because we love our military.
Speaker 6: So you know, I'm really I'm looking at hustling to
Speaker 6: make sure that we continue to support them, especially those
Speaker 6: that are needed extra assistance and guidance with the DA.
Speaker 6: You know what I tell people, Jimmy's not a show warce.
Speaker 6: Jimmy's a workhorse. I look forward to helping, you know,
Speaker 6: break through the bureaucracy, helping people get through their questions answered.
Speaker 6: Pete accepts the good buddy so proud of what he's
Speaker 6: doing to bring the image of the war fighter back
Speaker 6: in a way where where men and women are proud
Speaker 6: to serve our country. So, yeah, this is I'm pinching.
Speaker 6: I'm really can't believe it's real.
Speaker 3: Jimmy, You've been fighting for the state of Florida for
Speaker 3: a long time. Buck is one of the new residents
Speaker 3: of the state of Florida.
Speaker 1: What is the impact.
Speaker 3: I mean, I think it's an awesome kind of test
Speaker 3: case for what good governance can do. The number of
Speaker 3: people that are saying, hey, I'm going to move to
Speaker 3: a state like Florida. What have the numbers look like
Speaker 3: over the last five or six years.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so we're in the best fiscal health we've ever
Speaker 6: been in the history of the State of Florida. And
Speaker 6: so look, I've been the CFO for the last eight years.
Speaker 6: I'm proud how much debt we've paid down. But here's
Speaker 6: the twisted thing about it. Even in the jacked up
Speaker 6: Biden administration where we have double digit inflation, what people
Speaker 6: don't realize in Florida, the State of Florida made more
Speaker 6: money than ever before. Because if things cost more and
Speaker 6: we're only a sales tax environment. Y'all know that because
Speaker 6: now you're not paying income tax from wherever you once
Speaker 6: we're living, we made more money of the state, so
Speaker 6: we aggressively paid down debt at a break neck speed.
Speaker 6: We have also created a culture. Tell people it's not
Speaker 6: a sprint as a mark. You got to work on it.
Speaker 6: Every day. We have four hundred thousand new net Floridians
Speaker 6: come to the state of Florida, and we've got one
Speaker 6: point three million more registered Republicans the Democrats. The trend
Speaker 6: we're going is to give people their personal freedom and
Speaker 6: keep their tax money.
Speaker 3: All right, get out and vote for him. Jimmy Patronis. Jimmy,
Speaker 3: I'll see you down on the beach here in the
Speaker 3: near future. I'm gonna spend a bunch of time down
Speaker 3: there this spring and summer. So keep up the good
Speaker 3: work and look forward to you doing a fantastic job
Speaker 3: for everybody on the Panhandle.
Speaker 6: Thanks guys, God bless you, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3: For sure, that's Jimmy petronas again. We want to keep
Speaker 3: that going. At Randy Fine, Florida six. Jimmy Patronis Florida one,
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Speaker 5: and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app
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Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. A couple things
Speaker 1: to take a quick look at here. One is the
Speaker 1: reductions in the federal workforce. Just as as of April first.
Speaker 1: This is in the New York Times, so I assuming
Speaker 1: this is not April fools. There are impending layoffs of
Speaker 1: ten thousand CDC and other health federal health workers confirmed
Speaker 1: cuts according to the New York Times here at least
Speaker 1: forty nine thousand so far. Many of these employees, though,
Speaker 1: have been temporarily reinstated after court orders have come down.
Speaker 1: As we've discussed after the hashtag resistance judges employees who
Speaker 1: took buyouts seventy five thousand. I can't do the math
Speaker 1: on that, but what is that as a percentage of
Speaker 1: the overall whether there's about million is two million federal employees,
Speaker 1: so you know, you're looking at what they think it
Speaker 1: might get up to five percent. Maybe it'll get up
Speaker 1: to five percent, we'll see, and then planned reductions at
Speaker 1: least one hundred and seventy one thousand. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of efficiency stuff that is going on right now. USAID
Speaker 1: basically gutted and gone more than ninety nine percent. Voice
Speaker 1: of America gutted and gone more than ninety nine percent.
Speaker 1: Education Department of Education forty six percent down, then HHS, Energy, IRS,
Speaker 1: CFPB all down in the teens. You know, the numbers
Speaker 1: are twelve, thirteen, sixteen around there. So this is they
Speaker 1: think it could affect a total clay of twelve percent
Speaker 1: of the two point four million civilian federal workers. So
Speaker 1: that's the total effected. Maybe the buyouts could be five
Speaker 1: to ten percent. They thought maybe more like five percent.
Speaker 1: But I think you have a particular perspective here. The
Speaker 1: Secret Service, which had a very bad year in twenty
Speaker 1: twenty four. Let's just be frank about that. A very
Speaker 1: bad year for this. I mean, it could have been worse,
Speaker 1: God forbid, but it was pretty bad as it was.
Speaker 1: You were at the golf course. Tell everybody where the
Speaker 1: second assassination attempt against Trump occurred and what did you
Speaker 1: learn from seeing that environment yourself up close?
Speaker 3: So first of all, I encourage you guys go donate
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Speaker 3: I was there playing was Frank Siller. The work that
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Speaker 3: and they're gonna do it multiple years at Trump International
Speaker 3: Golf Course. So if you are in Florida and you
Speaker 3: would be interested in playing in that event, which I
Speaker 3: hope I'll be able to do next year with them
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Speaker 3: in need. They do phenomenal work. So that's where I was.
Speaker 3: That's why I was playing there. I had not been
Speaker 3: to this Trump International Course in West Palm Beach before.
Speaker 3: I'm an awful golfer. I love playing golf. I don't
Speaker 3: get to do it very often. But as we're going
Speaker 3: around the course yesterday and thank you for holding down
Speaker 3: the fort on the show, I got to see and
Speaker 3: my caddy was there explaining to me exactly the locations
Speaker 3: of this would be second assassin, And having seen it
Speaker 3: on the ground now for myself, it is unbelievable to
Speaker 3: me that we have not gotten more details about this
Speaker 3: because this guy was going to come insanely close to
Speaker 3: Trump and an area where you could not miss. And
Speaker 3: what I was told by people who were there was
Speaker 3: that it was the glinting of the sunlight off of
Speaker 3: the barrel of his gun that made him noticeable. Trump
Speaker 3: was only one hole away from this guy being able
Speaker 3: to murder Trump. Right after the July thirteen terrorists had
Speaker 3: come within, would be assassin had come within a quarter
Speaker 3: of an inch of killing Trump on live television at
Speaker 3: that Butler, Pennsylvania rally.
Speaker 1: Fuck this area.
Speaker 3: The fact that it was not swept, the fact that
Speaker 3: the Secret Service didn't have people in those bush lines,
Speaker 3: the fact that they allowed this guy to get there
Speaker 3: at dawned and be there for hours and have Trump
Speaker 3: one hole away from him walking up and being killed
Speaker 3: right there is indefensible, and we have not gotten I
Speaker 3: don't think the full story on either of these would
Speaker 3: be killers this guy after Butler, Pennsylvania, I would argue
Speaker 3: it's even more indefensible than what happened at Butler because
Speaker 3: it wasn't like the guy was on the roof of
Speaker 3: that building in Butler for eight hours in advance.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that this happened. I totally see what
Speaker 1: you mean about the second one. The first one, I
Speaker 1: do think the very first place that anybody would have
Speaker 1: wanted to clear it would have been the roof where
Speaker 1: the guy set up. This is what I'm saying about this.
Speaker 1: If you went to that golf course with me, Buck,
Speaker 1: you would look at this and you would say, how
Speaker 1: in the world do they not have this parking line managed,
Speaker 1: like have agents walking along inside of this bushline. The
Speaker 1: fact that they allowed this to happen it feels intentional
Speaker 1: to me. It feels like there was first of all,
Speaker 1: some sort of inside knowledge that this guy knew that
Speaker 1: Trump was likely to be playing that course. On this day.
Speaker 3: But of all the places that you would be on
Speaker 3: this course, this is really the only place you need
Speaker 3: to secure.
Speaker 1: So really, what you're saying is there were two assassination
Speaker 1: attempts against Trump that both relied on the most obvious
Speaker 1: possible platform for the shooter, positioning for the shooter of all. Yes,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, this is what we haven't talked about. I mean,
Speaker 3: I'm saying the collective media as a whole for this
Speaker 3: to happen after the failures of Butler, Buck We're talking.
Speaker 3: It's one thing Butler, you know, it comes out of nowhere,
Speaker 3: and I'm with you. It was utterly indefensible, but the
Speaker 3: most predictable places that you would expect someone to try
Speaker 3: to kill the president or unsecured. After Butler, they let
Speaker 3: it happen again. And we still don't know anything about
Speaker 3: these guys, right, I mean, compare what we know about
Speaker 3: these guys to the average mass shooter who they have
Speaker 3: front page articles about. We know everything about them. And
Speaker 3: when I played this course yesterday, it just I stood
Speaker 3: there and I looked at that bushline and I said,
Speaker 3: how is it possible that they let a guy sit
Speaker 3: there all day? And nobody was securing that area. Again,
Speaker 3: the course is not particularly complicated to secure.
Speaker 1: Again, I don't like to take us into a really
Speaker 1: dark and macabre direction, but imagine the feeling in the
Speaker 1: country if after that first assassin, yes, an attempt, a
Speaker 1: second assassin, just as blatant and honestly tactically lacking in proficiency,
Speaker 1: was successful, even just in wounding Trump a second time.
Speaker 1: Never mind, God forbid something else could have happened. Who
Speaker 1: would have believed that? That was just grotesque in confidence
Speaker 1: twice over by a multi billion dollar federal agency that's
Speaker 1: supposed to be able to protect the president of the
Speaker 1: United States. Buck He got away too it.
Speaker 3: He got into a car and drove away, And the
Speaker 3: only reason we caught him, like fifty minutes down the
Speaker 3: road was because a woman in the parking lot saw
Speaker 3: him fleeing and wrote down his license plate. In other words,
Speaker 3: if this guy had been able to get shots on Trump,
Speaker 3: which he nearly did, he might have been able to
Speaker 3: get away. Yeah, so it's not even I think at
Speaker 3: a minimum, most people think, well, if you get a
Speaker 3: shot at the president, you're giving up your life. This
Speaker 3: guy got away, and the only reason we knew who
Speaker 3: he was was because a random woman think the ward
Speaker 3: she was there, took down the license plate. And again
Speaker 3: I understand people say, well, he's okay now he's been
Speaker 3: elected president. I understand that that that is. I think
Speaker 3: the ward happened. But I don't think we can let
Speaker 3: July in August and what nearly happened just vanish and
Speaker 3: not be having a bigger question about who knew, what,
Speaker 3: how did these guys end up in the position that
Speaker 3: they did, And are we just supposed to expect and
Speaker 3: and and believe that these were totally lone wolf would
Speaker 3: be assassins. It just feels unlikely to didn't didn't seek
Speaker 3: the service also fire a bunch of someone fired a
Speaker 3: bunch of rounds at him from pretty close and didn't
Speaker 3: hit and didn't hit him right, Yes, and he got
Speaker 3: away again, he got into his car and drove off.
Speaker 3: My understanding was it was I should show I can see,
Speaker 3: but it was a number of rounds from a pretty
Speaker 3: close distance. Well, that's why I bring up that the
Speaker 3: guy was able to get away, So you can you
Speaker 3: can set up a sniper position against the president and
Speaker 3: Secret Service doesn't figure it out until you almost were
Speaker 3: able to get the shots off again the second time,
Speaker 3: never mind the first time when he did get a
Speaker 3: shot off and hit the president of the ear, which
Speaker 3: is still something I feel like our national psyche is processing.
Speaker 3: You know, how close we came as a country to
Speaker 3: the abyss. I don't even like to think about it
Speaker 3: or go there, because Heaven forbid it. Just you know,
Speaker 3: God was on Trump's shoulder that day, and we got
Speaker 3: lucky as a nation. I don't care what somebody thinks
Speaker 3: about Trump. We got lucky as a nation because that
Speaker 3: didn't you know, the worst didn't happen. That that's right,
Speaker 3: but that the Secret Service, I don't know what needs
Speaker 3: to be done to to fix it so that their
Speaker 3: procedures are more of you know, I think it's a
Speaker 3: three billion dollars a year agency and they really have
Speaker 3: one job. I know they a bunch of people, but
Speaker 3: you know, the Hunter Biden protection detail is different than
Speaker 3: the Trump protection detail. I think we all understand that, right,
Speaker 3: And they had one job and they almost couldn't do that.
Speaker 3: It's pretty pretty terrifying when you think about the you know,
Speaker 3: we talk about the incompetence that US, the usaid in
Speaker 3: these other places. Secret Service got incredibly lucky in twenty
Speaker 3: twenty four that the worst didn't happen.
Speaker 1: Trump would be dead.
Speaker 3: If they had had a truly competent, trained assassin, oh
Speaker 3: definitely trying to kill him at either of those times.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he would be dead.
Speaker 3: And the fact that we allowed that to happen in
Speaker 3: July and we allowed it to happen again in August,
Speaker 3: to me is utterly indefensible. And again being on the
Speaker 3: ground and seeing that if all of you walked that
Speaker 3: golf course with me and you said, okay, where is
Speaker 3: the most dangerous place that's going to be on this
Speaker 3: golf course, we would all flag that exact location. And
Speaker 3: the fact that the Secret Service allowed that guy to
Speaker 3: be there all day, for hours. It's not like he
Speaker 3: pulled up ten minutes beforehand. He was there since dawn
Speaker 3: and came within a few hundred yards of the President
Speaker 3: being right in front of him and it being almost
Speaker 3: impossible for him to miss. I just it's not talked
Speaker 3: about enough, and it makes me nervous because it makes
Speaker 3: me worry about trump safety going forward, even though he's
Speaker 3: now the president, and even though he now has a
Speaker 3: better protective detail. If they failed that bad twice why
Speaker 3: would they not fail that bad a third time?
Speaker 1: Well, I think Trump is putting some of the people
Speaker 1: in positions. Now you would hope, yeah, you would hope,
Speaker 1: But I think he is. I mean, you see, you
Speaker 1: know cash at FBI Dan Bongino, former Secret Service as
Speaker 1: deputy FBI Director. I know that's not Secret Service. But
Speaker 1: these guys understand what's at play here and are going
Speaker 1: to fix it. I think so, But yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: It is incredibly important that these issues are addressed from
Speaker 1: the whole gamut of a blow did federal government with
Speaker 1: way too many people doing nothing to the parts of
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Speaker 1: have to be absolutely a game need to be a game.
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Speaker 3: Right off the top, echoing what we have told you
Speaker 3: many times during the course of today's program. It is
Speaker 3: an election day for many of you in Florida and
Speaker 3: in Wisconsin, and I know it can sneak up on
Speaker 3: you and you think, hey, it was just six months
Speaker 3: ago in the first District of Florida. Go vote in
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Speaker 3: an amazing job representing the Panhandle. That is the northern
Speaker 3: upmost district in the state of Florida. Buy and large
Speaker 3: and then Randy Fine if you are living in the
Speaker 3: sixth Congressional District of Florida and that is the area Daytona,
Speaker 3: Saint Augustine, both very strong Trump territory. Two different congressmen there,
Speaker 3: Matt Gates and Mike Waltz, both being replaced in these
Speaker 3: special elections Democrats. You heard Jimmy patronis at the top
Speaker 3: of the midway through the first hour tell us that
Speaker 3: he's been outspent five to one buck. Yesterday you had
Speaker 3: Randy Fine on and Randy Fine has been outspent nearly
Speaker 3: ten to one were the dollar figures that I saw.
Speaker 3: So we want you to go send a message Randy Fine.
Speaker 3: Jimmy patronis for the Floridians out there. I'm down in
Speaker 3: Miami with Buck. Thank you to him for holding down
Speaker 3: the fort. Yesterday, while I was helping Frank Siller and
Speaker 3: all the guys and gals at Tunnel to Towers raise
Speaker 3: money for the fabulous event that they do T two
Speaker 3: T dot org, they had a Florida golf event going
Speaker 3: on there, and also Wisconsin. Wisconsin is I think it's
Speaker 3: fair to say buck the number one battleground state in
Speaker 3: America right now, in that every race comes down to
Speaker 3: just a few thousand votes.
Speaker 1: It feels like our.
Speaker 3: Buddy Ron Johnson got re elected in twenty twenty two
Speaker 3: by about twenty five thousand votes.
Speaker 1: For those of you who remember, Trump.
Speaker 3: Won Wisconsin by thirty thousand votes in this most recent
Speaker 3: election in November. Unfortunately, Eric Hovedy lost Wisconsin by a
Speaker 3: few thousand votes.
Speaker 1: By and large.
Speaker 3: I mean this is every single election in Wisconsin is
Speaker 3: right there on the margin of going one way or
Speaker 3: the other. So if Wisconsin voters who voted for Trump
Speaker 3: come out, they will win that Supreme Court race, and
Speaker 3: all three of those races will be used in many
Speaker 3: ways as a referendum on the first seventy some odd
Speaker 3: days of the Trump White House. So that is out
Speaker 3: there right now. Several other stories underway. Trump reportedly, as
Speaker 3: we were just discussing, going to give his full tariff
Speaker 3: decision on April second, four o'clock Eastern. We will figure
Speaker 3: out exactly what that is tomorrow. I would imagine more
Speaker 3: and more of it will leak out. We've got the
Speaker 3: eightieth anniversary by the way of Okinawa. For those of
Speaker 3: you out there that are World War two history buffs,
Speaker 3: today is the eightieth anniversary, I believe of the initial
Speaker 3: attack at Okinawa. Am I correcting that?
Speaker 1: Sure? I think? I mean, that's quite a stat to
Speaker 1: pull out there. They're putting me on the hot.
Speaker 3: SID team in New York. Make sure that I didn't
Speaker 3: screw that up. I think that is correct that I know.
Speaker 3: We just had the eightieth anniversary of D Day last year.
Speaker 3: I think the invasion of Okinawa. I believe this is
Speaker 3: the eightieth anniversary of that occurring back in nineteen forty five.
Speaker 3: Luigi Manngioni a report that we are going to be seeking,
Speaker 3: through Attorney General Pambondi, the death penalty. And there are
Speaker 3: a bunch of other stories out.
Speaker 1: There right on the beginning of the Battle of Okinawa.
Speaker 1: And we have something special for everybody on the battle
Speaker 1: that is known as Hacksaw Ridge.
Speaker 3: We'll play that a little later for everybody, all right,
Speaker 3: So I want to get your take on this. There
Speaker 3: has been a lot of drama in the past few
Speaker 3: days over Trump potentially wanting a third term. Oh boy,
Speaker 3: this is this is echoing everywhere, and I want to
Speaker 3: hit this for you. I believe we have Trump talking
Speaker 3: about he liked to run against Obama. Now, Trump has
Speaker 3: an ability to get attention for things that frankly, nobody
Speaker 3: else can get attention for. And we all know that
Speaker 3: he likes to gig the media a decent amount. Now,
Speaker 3: this initially started, I believe buck with Kristen Welker at
Speaker 3: NBC's Meet the Press. Trump gave quotes there. But here
Speaker 3: is cut three. Trump says he would welcome a challenge
Speaker 3: from Obama and he thinks it would be a good one.
Speaker 1: This is again cut three. If you were allowed, for
Speaker 1: some reason to run for a third term, is there
Speaker 1: a thought to the Democrat good trying to run Barack
Speaker 1: Obama against you?
Speaker 7: I love that.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 7: That would be a good one.
Speaker 6: I'd like that.
Speaker 7: And now people are asking me to run, and there's
Speaker 7: a whole story about running for a third term. I
Speaker 7: don't know. I never looked into it. And they do
Speaker 7: say there's a way you can do it, but I
Speaker 7: don't know about that, but I have not looked into it.
Speaker 7: I want to do a fantastic job. We have four
Speaker 7: years just about almost clus to four years. It's time
Speaker 7: is flying, but it's still close to four years, and
Speaker 7: we're getting a lot of credit for having done a
Speaker 7: great job in the first almost one hundred days.
Speaker 3: Okay, Peter, do sy great question as he tied in
Speaker 3: Barack Obama versus Donald Trump. Let their guy go for
Speaker 3: a third term against our guy, that would be an
Speaker 3: epic battle. What do you think is going on here?
Speaker 3: What is all the third term talk about? From your perspective?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, for one thing, it reminds me of Gladiator,
Speaker 1: which is a fantastic movie. As we all know, we've
Speaker 1: discussed here. It's your wife's favorite movie. It's a top
Speaker 1: of all time five maybe top three for me. I mean,
Speaker 1: so I'm a huge Gladiator fan as well. Not Gladiator too.
Speaker 1: That would be for peasants, Claudia. Some people are saying
Speaker 1: some people are saying Gladiator two for peasants. But anyway,
Speaker 1: Gladiator one amazing. And remember when they bring out of
Speaker 1: retirement to face Maximus, they bring like the greatest Gladiator
Speaker 1: of all time. I think it was Titus of Gall.
Speaker 1: While I've seen that movie a lot, Titus of Gall
Speaker 1: and he's the guy with the metal of the sort
Speaker 1: of gold mask on and the Tigers and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: Trump is a showman, and for him, the ultimate political
Speaker 1: opponent of this era would be Barack Obama. Yes, that
Speaker 1: is the the only Democrat who won majorities twice. You know,
Speaker 1: even look back at Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton won with
Speaker 1: the first time, what forty percent something like that.
Speaker 3: Now he was running with Ross Perrault, who got nearly
Speaker 3: twenty percent of the votes.
Speaker 1: I mean so, but Bill did not have any kind
Speaker 1: of a mandate, you know, when.
Speaker 3: Clinton never won a majority of never got over fifty
Speaker 3: percent of the election, which a lot of people don't realize.
Speaker 1: Right, that's a stunning statistic when you think about it
Speaker 1: in retrospect. So Barack Obama would be the democrats great champion.
Speaker 6: Right.
Speaker 1: That's so Trump just leaning into that, I think is
Speaker 1: very trump not surprising at all, the third term talk.
Speaker 1: I see this entirely as Trump doing what he does,
Speaker 1: which is he's going to get all of this focus
Speaker 1: from anti Trump media on this. Everybody who likes Trump
Speaker 1: and voted for Trump kind of just smiles and looks
Speaker 1: at this. They're like, yeah, whatever, you know, calm down,
Speaker 1: Like no one really gets worried about it from our
Speaker 1: side or then worried about it just doesn't pays much
Speaker 1: attention to it. I think they like the they are
Speaker 1: amused by how much it upsets Democrats. But here's what
Speaker 1: it does do. Tomorrow, Trump's talking about tariffs. Last hour,
Speaker 1: we were discussing tariffs. There are a lot of people
Speaker 1: that want to create a narrative that what Trump is
Speaker 1: doing with the economy is destabilizing, et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 1: This takes some of the heat off. I view it
Speaker 1: as a little bit of a smoke screen or a
Speaker 1: distraction technique for the media, because they're going to spend
Speaker 1: a lot of time talking about something that is completely
Speaker 1: irrelevant right now other than for the amusement factor, and
Speaker 1: it takes some of the heat off of the look
Speaker 1: that they're starting to see that they've got to do
Speaker 1: these cuts and they've got to do these changes in
Speaker 1: these tariffs in a way that doesn't just feed narratives
Speaker 1: to the opposition. Right. It's the right thing to do,
Speaker 1: but you have to handle it a certain way.
Speaker 3: I think what it really represents is Trump's awareness that
Speaker 3: fixing the country is going to take more than four years.
Speaker 3: And this is why we have said you've got to
Speaker 3: string together a series of wins, no matter how successful
Speaker 3: of a term Trump has, and I believe he's going
Speaker 3: to have a very successful term in office. Here, He's
Speaker 3: going to have to leave, I believe, in twenty twenty nine.
Speaker 3: And certainly the other crazy thing about this is the
Speaker 3: process to select Trump's replacement as the Republican nominee for
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight will actually get underway by March of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty seven, and that sounds crazy, and honestly, the
Speaker 3: shadow primary will begin before then because people will be
Speaker 3: out raising money. But basically the day after the midterms
Speaker 3: happen next year, the official running start date of the
Speaker 3: twenty twenty eight presidential calendar will begin. And that's going
Speaker 3: to happen in a hurry. And one thing that we
Speaker 3: have talked about is how will Trump handle We've never
Speaker 3: seen this in his entire political career. How will Trump
Speaker 3: handle the possibility of there being a successor to him,
Speaker 3: which means that he isn't necessarily the straw that stirs
Speaker 3: the drink, that is, the pursuit of who the new
Speaker 3: Republican nominee would be matters now. I think his selection.
Speaker 3: You nailed this well called by you before anybody else
Speaker 3: is saying it to me. Jd Vance actually is a
Speaker 3: selection that Trump made because he wants there to be
Speaker 3: another generation continuing the work that he started. He could
Speaker 3: have picked a guy like Doug Bergham, for instance. Nothing
Speaker 3: against Doug Bergham, who's in the cabinet, but Doug Bergham
Speaker 3: is an older guy. There are a lot of forty
Speaker 3: somethings that Trump has surrounded himself with. Whether it's Pete Hegseth,
Speaker 3: whether it's Tulci Gabbard, whether it's jd Vance. These are
Speaker 3: guys and gals that are relatively speaking, youthful in the
Speaker 3: political context. And I think that was a conscious decision
Speaker 3: to try to prolong the movement that Trump is trying
Speaker 3: to put in place.
Speaker 1: So you see this as pure four D chests from Trump.
Speaker 1: Just to be clear, you think that him talk about
Speaker 1: a third term, You're going, really, this is like Marcus
Speaker 1: Aurelius level philosophical future of the Republic stuff you're going
Speaker 1: with here.
Speaker 3: I think that Trump will this is my take. I
Speaker 3: think that Trump in twenty twenty seven will say at
Speaker 3: some point jd Vance is my guy, and I think
Speaker 3: he will endorse JD Vance interesting because I think he
Speaker 3: wants JD Vance to be seen as the heir to Trump.
Speaker 1: I think that we'll see, we'll see, we can mark
Speaker 1: this one down. I feel I feel like Trump is
Speaker 1: going to view the successor as a as a version
Speaker 1: of the apprentice for the leader of the free world.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure that he's going to He certainly
Speaker 1: hasn't already, and he's been given opportunities to say it
Speaker 1: is JD. He's sort of deferred on that a little. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he was asked that question directly, directly, so maybe in time.
Speaker 1: But I could see Trump wanting to be kingmaker toward
Speaker 1: the end here, and he's a guy who likes to
Speaker 1: be in the center of the game. The second that
Speaker 1: you pick your your v I can't believe we're talking about,
Speaker 1: you know, for just a couple of months in a
Speaker 1: Trump's term. We'll get back onto that in a second.
Speaker 1: But the second that you say who your successor is
Speaker 1: in this political environment, the successor is going to be
Speaker 1: the person who is driving a lot of the party agenda.
Speaker 1: So whereas if you say, hey, guys, I got lot
Speaker 1: of work to do until the very end, I'm running
Speaker 1: through the tape and we'll see what happens with the
Speaker 1: successor changes the game a little bit.
Speaker 3: I do think it's interesting as well, though there are
Speaker 3: two pathways to follow. Barack Obama anointed Hillary Clinton his successor,
Speaker 3: kicked Joe Biden to the curb. Barack Obama was right
Speaker 3: to do so, correct, He actually made the right move
Speaker 3: because he was like dementia, Joe should not be he
Speaker 3: doesn't have the ability to do this. And now we
Speaker 3: unfortunately have all figured that out. But remember he never
Speaker 3: endorsed Biden. Everybody forgets in twenty twenty, Barack Obama set
Speaker 3: out the race. So to your point, it maybe that
Speaker 3: Trump likes the competition of people trying to get his
Speaker 3: endorsement and doesn't decide to do it.
Speaker 1: I will say this. You know what, He moved a
Speaker 1: bust into the White House recently FDR.
Speaker 3: I don't know that it's been talked about or reported on,
Speaker 3: but Trump took a bust of FDR and had it
Speaker 3: moved into the White House. Now google team back in
Speaker 3: New York, Google and see whether this has been written about.
Speaker 3: I was told about this when I was traveling on
Speaker 3: Air Force one to go to the NCAA Wrestling Championships. Recently,
Speaker 3: Trump has been saying recently that his favorite Democrat is
Speaker 3: FDR And if you ask him why his favorite Democrat
Speaker 3: is FDR, he says because he served multiple terms. Well four, right,
Speaker 3: he got elected thirty two to thirty six forty forty
Speaker 3: four four.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just four terms, yeah, four terms in office. They
Speaker 1: had to have a whole constitutional amendment because of him.
Speaker 1: What was it in nineteen fifty one? I think the
Speaker 1: constancipment came down, which.
Speaker 3: Is interesting that we have term limits for president and
Speaker 3: not term limits for any other electeds thing.
Speaker 1: Obviously, how many people do you think if you walked
Speaker 1: on the street and you ask them to name any
Speaker 1: and they don't have to I'm not saying memorized, but
Speaker 1: to say any amendment beyond the first ten, that they
Speaker 1: would be able to.
Speaker 3: Do so, I don't think you're I think most people
Speaker 3: know the First Amendment. I think a lot of people
Speaker 3: know the Second Amendment. By the time you get into
Speaker 3: fourth Amendment, which is unreasonable search and seizure. I think
Speaker 3: five percent of Americans could tell you what the Fourth
Speaker 3: Amendment is.
Speaker 1: And by the way, when you get into once you
Speaker 1: get into the twenties. You're really well.
Speaker 3: I think some people would know the nineteenth Amendment because
Speaker 3: they would in popular culture when they would no right
Speaker 3: to vote and they would no ending slavery.
Speaker 1: They would probably when I say they five percent of
Speaker 1: people would know, I ish, yeah, I think five percent.
Speaker 1: It's funny too, is the most recent constitutional amendment is
Speaker 1: probably the most boring. I think it has to do
Speaker 1: with nineteen ninety two congressional salary changes can't take effect.
Speaker 1: I can't believe they don't even remember. I don't even
Speaker 1: know that a check check me team. Am I right
Speaker 1: on this one? This is really I've been doing trivia
Speaker 1: night with Kerry recently, so I try to be on
Speaker 1: my game. We are raigning Champ two nights in a
Speaker 1: row at our local local club here by the way,
Speaker 1: So just throwing that out there. But we had I
Speaker 1: think it's ninety one or ninety two. It was you
Speaker 1: can't have a congressional salary change that takes effect until
Speaker 1: the next Congress. I can't believe that that was actually
Speaker 1: a constant, like you needed a constitutional amendment for that,
Speaker 1: But they did one, I guess because everybody who makes
Speaker 1: the amendments was affected by it. So some of them
Speaker 1: are very almost arcane or very procedure scientific right anyway,
Speaker 1: but No three terms is one of them. That's what
Speaker 1: got me on this whole rant in the first place.
Speaker 1: So I don't know what what do you actually think
Speaker 1: Trump is serious? And you're talking about this like you
Speaker 1: think Trump is considering this in some way? Do you
Speaker 1: think he's really I don't think he's really considering. I
Speaker 1: think he's having fun with it. The problem is in
Speaker 1: order to change the law and allow him to run
Speaker 1: again would be very difficult, but he did say to NBC, oh,
Speaker 1: I could run as the vice president and then basically
Speaker 1: serve as the functional president again. I think Trump is
Speaker 1: having fun because he knows to a large extent that
Speaker 1: his continued viability as a politician drives his critics bonkers,
Speaker 1: and the fact that they want to call him a
Speaker 1: king and an authoritarian and everything else. I think ultimately
Speaker 1: he's going to endorse JD. Vance.
Speaker 3: That's what I would predict as we sit here in
Speaker 3: the April first of twenty twenty five. But I do
Speaker 3: think look, we've looked at the Trump cabinet over the years.
Speaker 3: We don't know how all of this is going to
Speaker 3: shake out. But if I were setting odds, I would
Speaker 3: bet right now that he's going to endorse jd Vance
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