1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: I need a parallel universe. It's one more. 2 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:06,320 Speaker 2: Thing I'm strong, and one more thing. 3 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:11,480 Speaker 3: Before I get to why I need a parallel universe. 4 00:00:11,520 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 3: I just got a text from a friend of mine. 5 00:00:13,560 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 3: He is a retired grown man in his sixties who 6 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:19,920 Speaker 3: said he hates sissy men who are at he's at 7 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,799 Speaker 3: the airport. Apparently he hates sissy man who show up 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 3: at the airport in pajamas and slippers. 9 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: Amen, man up, men, Yeah, I agree, dress. 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 3: Like a grown up for crying out loud. 11 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: I get it. 12 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 4: When you're in high school. You know, we used to 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 4: like walk around in pajamas and stuff. But when you're 14 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,480 Speaker 4: like a grown man doing that, that's weak. 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 3: You know, look, harmless trends are armless trends, But pajamas 16 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 3: even in high school, put on yeah pants a college 17 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 3: Chinese attack. I live in a college town. Ninety percent 18 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 3: of the college kids I see are in their pajama. 19 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 1: Well, the ninety percent of them need to man up 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: and pant up. 21 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 3: Well, I'm not saying I'm footing the women. 22 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:06,960 Speaker 1: It's popular. 23 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 5: Yeah. 24 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 2: Yeah. 25 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 3: To the why I need a parallel universe, I think 26 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 3: this is interesting. We've talked about this before, and you've 27 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,760 Speaker 3: had a comment about it, Joe, which you'll probably repeat here. 28 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: Starting. 29 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 3: I'll start with this, and I almost never work this 30 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: side of the street about autism and kids' mental health problems. 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: But this is from the Washington. 32 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 3: What's the one that Byron York works for? Free Beacon 33 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:38,199 Speaker 3: or Washington Times. I can never remember one of them. 34 00:01:39,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 3: Diagnosis rates of autism among children have more than tripled 35 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,319 Speaker 3: over the past fifteen years. We know that one reason 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,800 Speaker 3: which Minnesota's welfare scandal has laid bare with shocking details 37 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 3: is Medicaid fraud and abuse. Now we've been talking a 38 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 3: lot about the Minnesota thing, and in particular, they're fraud 39 00:01:57,720 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: which might. 40 00:01:58,800 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 1: Lead the nation. 41 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 3: Medicaid pays health care providers big bucks to diagnose and 42 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 3: treat children with autism, sometimes tens of thousand dollars a 43 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 3: month for a single child, yet states rarely verify that 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 3: kids were diagnosed actually meet the medical criteria for the disorder. 45 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: So if you put down that you've got an autistic kid, 46 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 3: nobody confirms it or not. Apparently he's quoting Alicia Finley's 47 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 3: piece in the Wall Street Journal. Yeah, or they get 48 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 3: appropriate treatment from qualified specialists. You don't have to one 49 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:30,839 Speaker 3: confirm you got a diagnosis, or two show that you're 50 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 3: using the money for any sort of treatment or anything 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:34,799 Speaker 3: like that. The results have to get lots of money. 52 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 3: Children covered by Medicaid or the government run children's Health 53 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,720 Speaker 3: insurance program are two and a half times more likely 54 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 3: than those with private coverage to be diagnosed with autism. Now, 55 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 3: I suppose you could tease it out and have some 56 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: reason that kids with private coverage are less exposed to 57 00:02:53,320 --> 00:02:56,960 Speaker 3: plastics or cell phone towers or whatever the hell we 58 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 3: think causes autism. You know, I had a thought pop up, 59 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 3: but then I corrected it. I was thinking, well, maybe 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 3: the uh and this is not my point of view, 61 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 3: but I'm just expressing it. Maybe the greedy, selfish private 62 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 3: insurance companies refuse to pay for treatment. But then no, 63 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:16,040 Speaker 3: it's it's just diagnosis, it's not treatments of any kind. 64 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 3: Two and a half times more likely to be diagnosed autistic, 65 00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 3: the final sentence being many lower income kids are labeled 66 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:25,640 Speaker 3: autistic merely because they have behavioral or developmental problems. And 67 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 3: that's kind of actually what I wanted to get into. 68 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 3: So people always say, well, you know, is there more 69 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 3: autism or did we just used to overlook it and 70 00:03:33,960 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: not called anything. There's some of that, of course, but 71 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: that's not the vast majority of it. And I've talked 72 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 3: to people who researched this for a living. It's not 73 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: even close to explaining where we are. 74 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: And if you've. 75 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,400 Speaker 3: Had kids in the modern world, you know there's way 76 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 3: more kids with way more problems that ever existed. 77 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: When you were young, depending on your age. I mean, 78 00:03:51,760 --> 00:03:55,360 Speaker 1: it's just it's just a fact. And this leads me 79 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: to what I really wanted to talk about. Is this. 80 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: So a woman who knows grown woman with kids, she 81 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:05,360 Speaker 3: brought this, She said this the other day, just offhandedly. 82 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 3: She actually has four kids, three of them autistic, three 83 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 3: autistic boys, one of them severely autistic. Wow, she said, well, 84 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 3: you're clearly on the spectrum somewhere to me, He said 85 00:04:20,839 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: what She said, Oh yeah, yeah, I can diagnose it 86 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,360 Speaker 3: from a mile away. You're clearly She said, you're obviously ADHD. 87 00:04:27,440 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 3: I assume you know that, and I said no, I've 88 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 3: never thought about it. For a second. She said, you're 89 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 3: clearly ADHD and you're probably almost certainly on the spectrum 90 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: of some sort I thought, wow, that is I've never 91 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 3: even thought about this before. That's really interesting, which gets 92 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 3: to my whole parallel universe thing. I don't know if 93 00:04:42,800 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 3: I am or not. I'm a sixty year old man 94 00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: who's been relatively successful in my life, has lived. I'm 95 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 3: not sure it makes any difference at this point, but 96 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 3: if I would, I would love to go back in 97 00:04:55,080 --> 00:05:01,600 Speaker 3: a parallel universe and have me diagnosed with something, age whatever, 98 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 3: put in maybe special classes, maybe given medication, whatever goes 99 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 3: along with it, and see how I would have turned 100 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 3: out versus ignoring it my whole life. 101 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 1: I'll be fascinating. 102 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I've long fantasized about, you know, just seeing 103 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: that because it's such an intriguing question. I think for everybody, 104 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: what if I had taken a left instead of a right? 105 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 2: Uh huh, you know, career wise. 106 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: You know, the partner wise, just one hundred things, how 107 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:34,839 Speaker 3: would that have played out. 108 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: It's just so intriguing. 109 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 1: We specifically on this medical thing. 110 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 3: It is the question of now, if you're severely anything, 111 00:05:43,200 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 3: obviously you need to diagnosis in probably some sort of 112 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 3: either therapy or medication. But if you're that mild version 113 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 3: that a lot of kids are, are you better off 114 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: never being told that you have some special reason to 115 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,119 Speaker 3: be not paying attention or struggle in life. 116 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: I think so, I would think so, like I. 117 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 3: Wasn't told I have any special reason too, even though 118 00:06:05,400 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 3: some woman just told me the other day I do. 119 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:12,000 Speaker 3: Are you better off just thinking, God, I suck at this, 120 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 3: I better work harder. Wow, that's that's a really difficult 121 00:06:16,320 --> 00:06:19,479 Speaker 3: question to answer simply say. Yeah, I'd say, I mean, 122 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 3: it depends, obviously, as you indicated, on. 123 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: The severity of the situation. Yeah, there's something. 124 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: To be said for figuring out like I did, because 125 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 3: I one hundred percent would have been diagnosed in school 126 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 3: with ADHD. 127 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 2: It was just way, way too slow for me. It 128 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,479 Speaker 2: made me insane. 129 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 3: Do you think it would have been helpful to you? See, 130 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:47,239 Speaker 3: that's that's where it starts to get really complicated. Yes, 131 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,240 Speaker 3: in a way, but it would have routed me in 132 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 3: a different direction than the one I took, which has 133 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,120 Speaker 3: ended up being really interesting and fun and you know, 134 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 3: difficult at times, certainly. But I don't know what are 135 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: the downsides to medicaid. You have to incorporate that into 136 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 3: your analysis. Yeah, no doubt or upsides that. Maybe you know, 137 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 3: I've never had medication of those kinds. Maybe if I 138 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 3: ever had some medication. I don't know that I do 139 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 3: have any of these things that this woman said I have. 140 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 3: But if I did or do, and I'd taken any 141 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 3: medication where all of a sudden, oh wow, this must 142 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 3: be what it's like for other people to try to 143 00:07:20,560 --> 00:07:24,559 Speaker 3: pay attention. Maybe it would have been awesome, But knowing 144 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 3: my personality, I think it's much more likely that i'd 145 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 3: have had I got an excuse, yeah for not getting 146 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:31,360 Speaker 3: my ass done? 147 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: Well, I can say shit, it's a podcast. I got 148 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: an excuse for onion my shit done. Finally, my ship 149 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: has come in. 150 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: I don't know if i'd have done that or not, 151 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 3: or if kids do that. I have no idea to 152 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 3: that point, and I don't have it readily in front 153 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 3: of me. 154 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 2: I don't think. 155 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: But there's now a growing awareness that the fact that 156 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 3: like two thirds of all college students claim to need 157 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 3: special dispensation to take tests or whatever, it has become 158 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 3: completely unworkable. They're having to figure out what to do 159 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: now because it's just become idiotic. Everybody's got a special 160 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 3: need now. But if I was told I had something 161 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 3: when I was eight, with the exact same life I've lived, 162 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 3: personality I've lived. How much would that bore into my 163 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 3: mind of reason why I can't do this or I 164 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 3: shouldn't be held to a standard for that. I don't know, 165 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:28,720 Speaker 3: but it would have to have an effect, Katie, look 166 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 3: like you wanted to say something. 167 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 4: Well, a friend of mine realized that she was having 168 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 4: a lot of trouble concentrating and she got diagnosed with 169 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 4: ADHD I think when she was twenty six, and then 170 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 4: they gave her medication and she stopped taking it because 171 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: she said it totally messed with my personality. It changed 172 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 4: who she was. So I wonder if that would happen 173 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,120 Speaker 4: as a child. You would most people like that with 174 00:08:51,160 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 4: me if it totally changed my personal. 175 00:08:52,640 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 3: She's ah, no comment. So a young man I know 176 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 3: who is thirty two, thirty two, thirty three, thirty three, 177 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 3: who looks a lot like me, but it's taller, recently 178 00:09:11,200 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 3: got saw a doctor about ADHD problems because he suspected 179 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:21,199 Speaker 3: that he has that, and indeed got medication number one 180 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: and it messed with him and was bad. 181 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 2: Medication number two. 182 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 3: Is great and he's thrilled, really really happy about it. Interesting, Okay, 183 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,480 Speaker 3: he says he can he can focus on things for, 184 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 3: you know, thirty seconds at a time and not three 185 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 3: seconds at a time or even longer than that, and 186 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 3: it's just made all the difference in the world, which 187 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 3: is interesting because nobody who's known him since the day 188 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 3: he was born. 189 00:09:46,040 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: Realized that was going on, and neither did he. 190 00:09:50,040 --> 00:09:53,439 Speaker 4: What made him realize it? 191 00:09:53,600 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 3: Like self awareness. I think that the more you live 192 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 3: and the more you experience, the more you realize. Wait 193 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 3: a minute, other people seem to do this easily, and 194 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:02,359 Speaker 3: it's making me insane. 195 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: Wouldn't that be crazy? 196 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:07,079 Speaker 3: If I figured out at age sixty a little tweak 197 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 3: here there, and all of a sudden, I can do 198 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:12,200 Speaker 3: various things that I've struggled with my whole life, That'd 199 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 3: be nuts. 200 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: I don't know that I'm going to seek that. 201 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 3: Out, and the last thing I need is to go 202 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 3: down that road at this point. But I have no idea, 203 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 3: and I don't want to respond to emails and texts 204 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 3: about not believing in medication or diagnosis because I'm a 205 00:10:28,960 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 3: million miles from that. If you've been listening to the 206 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:32,760 Speaker 3: show for a long time, I have a kid that's 207 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: got all kinds of stuff and all kinds of medications, 208 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 3: So I am on that train. But do we do 209 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 3: it more often than we need to? 210 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: Almost? 211 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,559 Speaker 2: Certainly? Yes's true. Isn't that a one hundred percent Yeah? 212 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, any responsible commentator would tell you that about the 213 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 3: And part of it is the pathologizing of little boys, 214 00:10:52,559 --> 00:10:54,760 Speaker 3: how the need to get up and move and have 215 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 3: lots of energy and you need to tire them out 216 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 3: before they can sit still. Is somehow that's that's a condition, 217 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 3: it's toxic maximlinity or. 218 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 2: And that's obscene. God, it makes me just so angry 219 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,720 Speaker 2: to even think about. 220 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 6: Ugh. 221 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 3: I wish I could actually run that parallel universe experiment 222 00:11:13,760 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 3: with you know, me or anyone else where one you 223 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: tell them they've got an excuse, and one you don't 224 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,680 Speaker 3: tell them, and see which turns out better. 225 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 2: I don't actually know. 226 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it would probably very kid to kid. 227 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 3: Here's a strong statement. I have not evaluated this statement 228 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 3: for its effectiveness. Side effects include diarrhea, pounding, headaches, and 229 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: eye bleeding. 230 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: Erections more than four hours, Oh, erections last for four days? 231 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 1: Are you kidding me? 232 00:11:44,679 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: Oh? My god? 233 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 1: How am I supposed to sleep? 234 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: So here is my strong statement. 235 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 3: That sort of revelation would hit with people roughly like 236 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 3: all obstacles hit with that person. Some people see an obstacle, 237 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 3: they lay down and quit and blame it for the 238 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 3: rest of their lives. Some people think, nah, all right, 239 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:06,600 Speaker 3: that's what I gotta. 240 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 2: Deal with, and they deal with it. It would be 241 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:10,359 Speaker 2: similar to like most setbacks. 242 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. 243 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: Again, I just that's off the top of my head. 244 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. 245 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 3: I really really don't know. It's my wheels have been 246 00:12:20,280 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 3: turning turning ever since this person said to me, Oh, 247 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: you're obviously on the spectrum. 248 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 1: You don't know that? 249 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 5: Like what? 250 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,079 Speaker 2: Really? Yeah? 251 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 5: I would have been offended myself. 252 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:30,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, they thank you. 253 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 3: I think I should have thrown a punch or something. 254 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 2: Oh, totally, haymaker, I wouldn't be offended by that. 255 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 5: Really, if you told your boss I know you're yelling 256 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 5: at me, but you're only doing it because you're on 257 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 5: the spectrum, that's not gonna go well, for. 258 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 6: Instance, Yeah, yeah, oh, I don't think I am, but 259 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 6: I don't actually. 260 00:12:56,160 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 3: Know on and so are a lot of the geniuses 261 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 3: that have done all the genius stuff throughout history. 262 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: So I'm not I'm not that either. 263 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:11,600 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I'm sure they as coming out any second. 264 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. 265 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:20,680 Speaker 3: You know, what's an really interesting question is should you 266 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: investigate it now? 267 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I've been thinking. 268 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 3: I mean, I do have social stuff that is outside 269 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: of the norm. I think, yeah, oh yeah, you are 270 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: as am I, but not quite as far down the 271 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 3: road of anti social you know, just being an introvert 272 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: social anxiety. I'd rather get in a fistfight than have 273 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 3: somebody hug me, for instance. Yeah, yeah, that's that's kind 274 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 3: of spectromy Yeah. 275 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: Spectromy What else goes with that? 276 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 2: I wonder? Oh gosh, it's it's it's a grab bag. 277 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 3: Do I get special parking spots or anything? I mean, 278 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 3: I'd look into it. If I get to like park 279 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 3: closer to the store. 280 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 4: Do you want a placard? 281 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:13,280 Speaker 1: I want a placard. I want a tax deduction. 282 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: I got real bad ah adhd. Sometimes I wander off 283 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 3: and I can't find my car because I can't concentrate. 284 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 3: So I need to park in the first six spaces. 285 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 2: Please? 286 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 3: Do I get to board first in planes? I mean, 287 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 3: what else comes with this? 288 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: If I? If I go ahead and pursue. 289 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: This, but then you can be with people longer. A 290 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: fast pass, last pass of the theme park. 291 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 3: See here's all kinds of things that are gonna come. 292 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,800 Speaker 1: Let me in. Imagine mountain, Let me in, Let me in. 293 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 1: I have the ADHD. I can't focus right. I'm barely 294 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: on the spectrum. Give me something, Give me something. 295 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:47,720 Speaker 5: You know, the placard'd be handy during the holiday season, 296 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 5: during Christmas shopping. I'm just saying, Jack, Well, I guess 297 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:52,200 Speaker 5: that's it.