1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,480 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg day Break here for this Monday, the 2 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: twenty third of January in London. Coming up this hour, 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: Masters of the Universe. Citadel fortified investors with a record 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:18,120 Speaker 1: breaking sixteen billion dollar return. The ECB is not for turning. 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: The Dutch Central Banker calls for at least two more 6 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: half point hikes capital earnings. Big pay hikes help Londoners 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,000 Speaker 1: escape the worst of the UK's cast of living crunch. 8 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 1: How fast a price is really rising? The UK economy 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:35,159 Speaker 1: turns a corner and one trillion dollar coins. Those are 10 00:00:35,159 --> 00:00:38,080 Speaker 1: the stories we're looking at in today's papers. I'm James Walcock. 11 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: Plus city workers hang on for bonuses before hunting for 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 1: new jobs. That's all straight ahead on Bloomberg day Break 13 00:00:46,159 --> 00:00:50,040 Speaker 1: Europe on DAB Digital Radio London, Bloomberg eleven three oh 14 00:00:50,120 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: New York, Bloomberg Washington, d C, Bloomberg one oh six one, Boston, 15 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: Bloomberg nine sixties, San Francisco, cyrus XM Channel one nine 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: and a round the world on Bloomberg Radio dot Com 17 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: and via the Bloomberg Business Set. Good morning, I'm Stephen 18 00:01:09,200 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 1: Carroll and I'm Caroline Hike. Here are the stories that 19 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 1: we're following today, Citadel made a record sixteen billion dollars 20 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: last year. That's the largest ever profit for a hedge fund, 21 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: surpassing the fifteen billion dollars that John Paulson generated in 22 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,479 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven on his bet against subprime mortgages. 23 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: In total, the top twenty hedge funds generated twenty two 24 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: point four billion dollars in profits after fees, according to 25 00:01:33,680 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: estimates by lc H Investments. But it is a different 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 1: story outside the industry giants, with hedge funds overall losing 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,120 Speaker 1: two hundred and eight billion last year. Elsie H estimated 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: that while the top twenty managers returned three point four percent, 29 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: the rest of funds that studied last in average of 30 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: eight point two percent. Okay, that's the big market story. 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: The ECB policy policy maker class Not has called for 32 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:02,040 Speaker 1: multiple fifty basis point rate high as central bankers publicly 33 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: differ on the rate path ahead. The Dutch monetary policy 34 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: chief says that he expects tightening to continue until the summer. 35 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:12,679 Speaker 1: Last week at Davos, President Christine Legarde said that monetary 36 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: policy needed to stay the course. We have to also 37 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: stay that course of resilience that we observed in twenty two. 38 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: So stay the course is my mantraal for monetary policy purposes, 39 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 1: no question about that. But I think other players must 40 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: also do the same thing. Legarde spoke as the eurozonees 41 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: price gains are finally showing signs of easing thanks to 42 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 1: plunging natural gas costs. Bloomberg reporting suggests that slowing inflation 43 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 1: has led some officials to consider twenty five basis point 44 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: hikes in future. Big pay hikes have helped London as 45 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 1: to whether the worst of the UK's ongoing cost of 46 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: living crunch, according to new research with the details here's 47 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's You and Parts. London's residents saw their wages adjusted 48 00:02:54,840 --> 00:02:57,799 Speaker 1: for inflation slipped by just nine pounds a week over 49 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: the past year. This according to analysis either Center for 50 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: Economics and Business Research that they just suggest London has 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,440 Speaker 1: did better than other parts of the UK, partly because 52 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: of faster pay rises, which on average surpassed eight percent 53 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: over the past year. However, the rest of the UK 54 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: didn't fare so well. On average, real wages dropped by 55 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 1: nineteen pounds a week, while Northern Ireland saw the biggest drop, 56 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 1: a slide of twenty six pounds a week. The figures 57 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: will add to pressure on the government's leveling up strategy, 58 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: which has faced increasing criticism and scrutiny in recent weeks. 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:30,799 Speaker 1: In London, I'm You and parts of Bloomberg Daybreak Europe, Well, 60 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 1: let's stick with pay for a moment. City of London 61 00:03:33,320 --> 00:03:36,600 Speaker 1: workers are staying put as they wait for bonuses to 62 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 1: be paid. Data for Morgan McKinley's Autumn London Employment Monitor 63 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: shows that there was a twenty three percent drop in 64 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 1: job seekers for finance roles in the last three months 65 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: of two Increasing costs of living and the emergence of 66 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: flexible work has pushed many professionals into looking for new jobs. 67 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: Morgan McKinley found that workers who do move firm in 68 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: the final quarter of last year, at least they saw 69 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: their pay rise by an average of well streets focus 70 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,480 Speaker 1: this week will be on earnings, with several big technology 71 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: names schedules to report here Spoomberg's Charlie Palace with a 72 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 1: look ahead of what two expects this week. We hear 73 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: from Intel, IBM and Texas Instruments. Those reports come as 74 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,360 Speaker 1: big tech companies slash tens of thousands of jobs amid 75 00:04:23,400 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: a slowing economy. And sputtering profits. Sarah Hunts, portfolio manager 76 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: at Alpine Woods Capital Investors. I think that some of 77 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: the concerns that people had about the first quarter could 78 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: get pushed into the second quarter in the third quarter 79 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: because earnings may or may not be holding up. We 80 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 1: don't really have an answer yet. We've seen a little 81 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: bit of diversions on the financials depending on where you are, 82 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 1: But I think it's really going to be what's going 83 00:04:44,120 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: to happen to profit margins, what's going to happen to earnings. 84 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: Also this week, we'll be hearing from three m Boeing, Ge, 85 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: Johnson and Johnson, MasterCard, Visa, Southwest Airlines, and American Airlines, 86 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: among many others in New York. Charlie Pellett Bloomberg Daybreak Europe. 87 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: So those are a few of our top stories are 88 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: for you this morning. So in terms of earnings, and 89 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: Charlie Pellett was listing all of the different companies are 90 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:09,880 Speaker 1: going to report this week. I think one of the 91 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: big focuses is on tech jobs in London. There's kind 92 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:14,600 Speaker 1: of seems to be a bit of a job's theme 93 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,279 Speaker 1: this morning. Are you you know how concerned is the 94 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: industry about tech leoth got Spotify now planning layoffs, and 95 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 1: then the Morgan McKinley story around city workers. Obviously everyone's 96 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: waiting for their bonus to be paid before they make 97 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,599 Speaker 1: any decisions, but it's quite interesting that people are quite 98 00:05:30,640 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: nervous clearly, yeah, and what options people will have as well. 99 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: Remember some of the announcements from last week, we still 100 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: don't have the impact of, for example, Alphabet's job cuts, 101 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: and won't workers in Europe won't find out yet where 102 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: things are going to go because the announcements are being 103 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 1: rolled out across regions. So the US heard last week, 104 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: But if you're in a pack, I'll here after the 105 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:52,360 Speaker 1: Lunar New Year holiday, and then European workers well here 106 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: after that whether or not their jobs are going to 107 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:55,840 Speaker 1: be affected. So this is going to be quite a 108 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,400 Speaker 1: stretched out story for people who are actually being affected 109 00:05:58,400 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: by these tech job cuts as well. Well. Some of 110 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: our report was really interesting on that because actually the 111 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,560 Speaker 1: communication from some of these tech firms has been a 112 00:06:06,600 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: bit wanting in the sense that they haven't always communicated 113 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 1: very well to those employees who's staying, who's going, So 114 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 1: that might be another issue we don't know for people 115 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: elsewhere in Europe. Next, who measures inflation best? Is the 116 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: UK data as grim as its scenes? And can you 117 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:29,160 Speaker 1: mint your way out of your problems? Now? The paper 118 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: review on blue Bird Daybreak Europe. The news you need 119 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: to know from today's papers Now. Bloomberg's James Wilcock joins 120 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: us with the details on the front pages. A lot 121 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: of economists commenting in the newspapers today. The ft is 122 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 1: leading on the cb I s Tony Danker saying that 123 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: SUNAC is burdening the UK economy with legislative chaos and 124 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:53,520 Speaker 1: is falling behind the US and EU when it comes 125 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:56,599 Speaker 1: to the race for greener business. But then you've also 126 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:59,279 Speaker 1: picked up on some other comment pieces the former Bank 127 00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: of England policy maker Andrew's centers in the Times. The 128 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 1: headline there James Reeds confused about the rate of inflation. 129 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: You have every right to be, yes, Caroline. It's it's 130 00:07:10,320 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: one for the nerds. I mean, so the line from 131 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: sentence is, if you're trying to measure inflation, you could 132 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: pick any one of four realistic metrics that are in 133 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: the UK cp I RPI, the Retail Pricing Index r 134 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: p i X, which is resurpricing that without more whish 135 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,000 Speaker 1: costs or CPI H, which is the O and S 136 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,200 Speaker 1: has chosen measure which includes his housing related costs, which 137 00:07:29,240 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 1: they measure by making homeotors be treated as if their 138 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 1: renters in their econometrics. Now, he says, this masses because 139 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: when you're trying to calculate how much things have gotten 140 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:42,440 Speaker 1: worse for people, take teachers, since their pay is roughly 141 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: ten percent worse sort of in real terms by CPI H, 142 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: but it's twenty four in RPI. So when we're having 143 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 1: these arguments about price raises and how much people deserve 144 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: in salaries, he says, it's almost hard to tell because 145 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: we haven't decided on one clear measure. And he said 146 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: something that actually, in statistics terms, the UK needs to 147 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: figure out before we can get a grip of its 148 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: salary problems. Hmm. Interesting. Okay, it's another economist, Roger Bootles 149 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: from Capital Economics Rising and the Telegraph headline there Britain's 150 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: economy seems to be turning a corner. But don't get 151 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: your hopes up. Just yes, I mean I'd like to 152 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: bring optimism on a Monday morning. Stephen Bootles point is 153 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: this is a global recovery as it was a global problem. 154 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: And the big thing for Europe is it's actually looking 155 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: like a better picture than the US when we're seeing 156 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:25,840 Speaker 1: sort of these big changes in energy prices having fallen 157 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: much further and expected. That is impacting Europe much better. 158 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: And although the British economy in particular is quite murky, 159 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: has a very tight labor market sized a rising much 160 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 1: faster and the baby would like Bootles points, actually there 161 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: is a lot to be hopeful about in the latest data, 162 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: although he says it's by no means over yet in 163 00:08:43,160 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: somet of some of the murky pictures you see around, 164 00:08:44,920 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: say government spending, which is coming in a lot worse 165 00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: than would be expected. Okay, if that's very interesting. The 166 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal reporting on an issue out of the US, 167 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: of course, the US seeling story. Janet Yellen dismisses minting 168 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: one trillion dollar coin to avoid default. I mean it 169 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: was on my Christmas list, the one trillon dot coin. Sadly, 170 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: no no luck from Janet Yellen, and how this would 171 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 1: work for those of you who haven't followed this sharing 172 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: sality of US politics and where it's gotten to is 173 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,199 Speaker 1: because of the debt ceiling and last Friday of the 174 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 1: U s hits it's amount of debt that it can 175 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 1: borrow the limit the Congress sets that it has since 176 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: the early unineteen hundreds. Janet Lard, the trainer sid could 177 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: Some Democrats have argued, use her power to mint coins 178 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: to mint a coin of any domination, So why not 179 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: just mint a one trillon dollar coin and that would 180 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: pay off the US debts. But the problem is Yellen, 181 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: who has also been a Chair of the Third in 182 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: the past. It says, the Fed probably wouldn't accept it, 183 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: and given she's in charge of the Treasury and she's 184 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: done the FED stop before, that's probably a pretty watertight argument. 185 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: But that means for a lot of the Democrats on 186 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,319 Speaker 1: the left there are no easy ways out. As Congress 187 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: sets down for a sort of very difficult argument about 188 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: how to deal with the roughly three point one four 189 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: one point four trillion dollars of debt that it has 190 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: on the cards. With the House now split, the House 191 00:09:58,040 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 1: now being a Republican control, it's set to be a 192 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: few months of wrangling. Yeah, I do enjoy every time 193 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: this story comes up. I think we'll we'll Dan Yell 194 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 1: and be the person to put it to bed given 195 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: the fact that she's done both jobs. Probably not, No, 196 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 1: probably not. And also I would just add the caveat 197 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: you know that whatever is done on the Democratic side 198 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 1: at one point will then be copied on the Republican side. 199 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: Of that I think has to be taken into account. 200 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: You know, if you decide to uh yeah, to mince 201 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 1: such a coin, then then the opposition side when they 202 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: come in perhaps will do the same that it's often 203 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,560 Speaker 1: tip for tetan US politics. Thanks so much James Wilcock 204 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: for look through the newspapers. Well, let's turn back to 205 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: central banks now. The Fed is in its blackout period 206 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:39,840 Speaker 1: ahead of next week's meeting, but there's plenty of under 207 00:10:39,880 --> 00:10:43,079 Speaker 1: other central bank news to digest. The ECB is governing 208 00:10:43,120 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: councer member of Clouds cannot calling for a fifty basis 209 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:48,959 Speaker 1: point hike in February. In March, while Ran says there 210 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: are grounds for significant increases in winter and early spring, 211 00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: our chief rates corresponding Garfield Reynolds joins us now for more, Garfield, 212 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: are we getting any clearer picture from the ECB as 213 00:11:01,840 --> 00:11:04,320 Speaker 1: regards what it might do in its next meeting? Given 214 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: the economic aidlook appears to be improving well, I mean 215 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 1: with the economic outlook improving, that is tending to that 216 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:17,840 Speaker 1: helped back those like Mr Knot who are looking for 217 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:22,679 Speaker 1: a fifty basis point hike at the meeting. Markets are 218 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 1: seeing that as about a seventy chance or so something 219 00:11:26,640 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: like that. So a decent chance. And certainly, you know, 220 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,480 Speaker 1: the e c B is in a very different situation 221 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,120 Speaker 1: to the FED. The Fed is saying, you know, we've 222 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 1: got two restrictive now we can slow down, take a time, 223 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,079 Speaker 1: take a look how much damage is being done to 224 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:44,640 Speaker 1: the economy in Europe. There's still this strong sense of 225 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: urgency that they need to get ahead of the game 226 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: outter having been behind the game on inflation for too long. 227 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: So that makes fifty basis points likely, although not cemented, 228 00:11:57,600 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: and there's going to be similar sorts of calculations you're 229 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: going forward. The pricing is at the moment about a 230 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: seventy percent chance for a fifty basis point high this 231 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 1: coming meeting, and then probably similar or maybe a little 232 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 1: bit less for another fifty basis points in March. So 233 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: you've got that hawkish bias there, But this is the ECB, 234 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: after all, it's not an easy beast to wrangle getting 235 00:12:24,520 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: the consensus that's needed. There's a lot of factors going on, 236 00:12:29,800 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: and although there is that economic resilience, Europe is still 237 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 1: facing a slowdown. So it's a very tricky one. Yeah. 238 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:41,840 Speaker 1: Absolutely not an easy beast to wrangle. I like that 239 00:12:42,160 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: the Fed is in a blackout period, but there's still 240 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 1: some data that comes out this week that we should consider. 241 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 1: What are you watching out for. Well, I mean we 242 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: do get the core PC, the flight and the University 243 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: of Michigan survey which includes inflation expectations here, those those 244 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: are coming up. Those are important data points in me 245 00:13:03,920 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 1: In a lot of ways, though, you sort of feel 246 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 1: as though the main data points have been out there 247 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: and by now it would be a surprise if the 248 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: Fed didn't go down to a twenty five basis point hike. 249 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: They've had plenty of opportunity to kick back against market 250 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: pricing that they would do that, and instead that they've 251 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 1: kind of encouraged it. Partly. Perhaps they may be trying to, 252 00:13:28,679 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 1: as it were, work with the market and say, well, yes, 253 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,080 Speaker 1: it seems reasonable to us to slow the basis points. 254 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: But as while I was saying over the weekend, but 255 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:44,079 Speaker 1: the last week, um, they expect to do more than 256 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: one basis point hike, and they expect to keep rates 257 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:52,480 Speaker 1: higher for quite some time. So both of those messages 258 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: are the ones that they've had problems getting across to 259 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: the market. So you know, we also have the pros 260 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 1: back for further disappointment or further turmoil if that the 261 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: market gets too far ahead of itself in thinking FED 262 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: is going to be an easy touch in terms of 263 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,560 Speaker 1: looking elsewhere, we have minutes in the Bank of Japan 264 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:17,680 Speaker 1: meeting in December, some interesting nuggets in there around discussions 265 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: over easy yeeld care of control. Yes, indeed, and in 266 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: some ways it's a little bit Unfortunately took longer for 267 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: the minutes to come out then it did for us 268 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: to get to another meeting, because in the minutes they 269 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 1: were talking about the need to make clear that this 270 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: tweak doesn't recommend, it doesn't represent a policy change. Now, 271 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: Governor Corona did say words that affect immediately after the 272 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 1: December meeting, but still a lot of investors went into 273 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: this month's meeting thinking that what had been a policy change, 274 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: as it were, that it had been a hawkish move 275 00:14:56,000 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: to double the yield cap, and the beer Jay ended 276 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: up very rudely disabusing them of that notion by bringing 277 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: out a range of measures to slap the yield back down. 278 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 1: It's falling for a fourth straight day to day. 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