WEBVTT - LISTEN | Bart Scott on Jets vs. Cardinals (10/6) 0:00:03.960 --> 0:00:07.240 Welcome to another edition of the Official Jets Podcast powered 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:10.639 by Amazon Web Services. Ethan Greenberg, Eric Allen here and 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:13.680 the bed MGM studio. Jets are all in four after 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:15.480 the first quarter of the season, and E. A and 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:20.000 I will basically be taking a dive from a broad level, 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:21.759 like a thirty thou foot view as to where the 0:00:21.840 --> 0:00:24.000 Jets can go, what went wrong, what they can correct, 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:26.360 kind of analyzing like a state of the Union in 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.160 a way. And then Bart Scott joins us later in 0:00:29.280 --> 0:00:33.040 the podcast for the Victor Knox Swiss Army Knife Player 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:36.080 of the Game as the Jets take on the Cardinals 0:00:36.080 --> 0:00:38.599 in Week five. Bart Scott has a doctorate in football. 0:00:38.680 --> 0:00:42.160 The way he breaks down x's and os, it's going 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:45.120 to be a must listen and a must watch for 0:00:45.360 --> 0:00:49.239 people who take in the Official Jets Podcast throughout the year. 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:52.320 So you want a game preview, he's going to break 0:00:52.360 --> 0:00:55.720 it down like very few can. And also we're gonna 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.760 get Anthony Becked involved in this segment throughout the two 0:00:58.840 --> 0:01:01.520 thousand twenty season, so I think fans are really gonna 0:01:01.520 --> 0:01:04.399 appreciate it. I don't want to give away too much, 0:01:04.680 --> 0:01:08.480 but when Bart Scott starts dissecting how to defend someone 0:01:08.560 --> 0:01:10.800 like Kyler Murray and how to game plan against him. 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.840 You really get an appreciation for strategy and really the 0:01:13.920 --> 0:01:17.440 intricacies of football that maybe you don't necessarily get just 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:20.800 watching the game. Well, that's the thing that's overlooked with 0:01:21.160 --> 0:01:23.480 bart Scott. A lot of people thought, Hey, he's got 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:26.720 a big mouth, he runs hot all the time. And 0:01:27.560 --> 0:01:30.440 with that being said, he didn't have a temper and 0:01:30.520 --> 0:01:33.199 he and he played hard and he went a hundred percent. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:38.479 I think that overshadowed what a cerebral assassin that guy 0:01:38.840 --> 0:01:42.200 was because on Sundays or Mondays or Thursdays, whenever you 0:01:42.240 --> 0:01:45.880 were playing, he knew exactly how an opponent was trying 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:50.640 to attack him. He also was a wonderful team player. 0:01:50.720 --> 0:01:54.040 He's a guy wo take on the guard and free 0:01:54.120 --> 0:01:57.440 up the space for a linebacker to make a tackle, 0:01:57.920 --> 0:02:00.240 and he was always ready to suit suit it up. 0:02:00.240 --> 0:02:05.520 But he was a guy who just loved being in 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:08.440 the classroom and it came easy to him too, And 0:02:08.520 --> 0:02:11.720 he was an extension of the coaching staff. So I 0:02:11.760 --> 0:02:15.079 think fans again, uh, the people who are in New 0:02:15.160 --> 0:02:17.560 York to get a chance to listen to him every day. 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.280 But I think this is a little bit of a 0:02:19.320 --> 0:02:22.440 different segment that we're offering here, and Barts got to 0:02:22.520 --> 0:02:25.160 your point, he basically just play chess. You know, he's 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.280 a chess player in terms of his knowledge on the 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.080 football field. But let's talk about where this Jets team 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:31.960 is now and where they can go. They're owing four, 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.440 Like I said, after the first quarter of the season, 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:38.360 questions are surround Sam Donald whether or not he can go. 0:02:38.440 --> 0:02:41.000 He's got the shoulder spraying, so we'll see if he 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.160 can play Sunday against the Cardinals. We're recording this Monday evening. 0:02:45.080 --> 0:02:48.760 But what do you make of the first four games? 0:02:49.200 --> 0:02:52.359 And really that Denver game we haven't discussed a whole lot. 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:55.799 Jets had a good opportunities and penalties more than more 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.239 likely than not negated. Really a very good opportunity for 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:01.800 the Jets. The cap alies on and now when you 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:04.040 look at the next four games, they have some tough 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:08.440 matchups ahead. A disappointing start this season. Everybody in this 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:11.160 building is going to say the same thing, and nobody 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:14.120 is using injuries as an excuse. A lot of teams 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:18.280 dealing with a major injuries and hopefully Sam Donald can 0:03:18.320 --> 0:03:21.959 make his fifth consecutive start here Sunday against the Arizona Cardinals. 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:25.920 If he doesn't, then it's Joe Flacco. And this is 0:03:25.960 --> 0:03:29.679 exactly why the Jets brought in Joe Flacco, because we 0:03:29.760 --> 0:03:32.520 talked about it throughout the offseason. The Jets are oh 0:03:32.639 --> 0:03:37.160 in six in games. Sam Donald has not started here 0:03:37.280 --> 0:03:42.040 early in his career. I thought, even though it was 0:03:42.080 --> 0:03:45.440 a loss, it was a loss to a team that 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:49.320 was led by an undrafted quarterback in Brett Rippon making 0:03:49.320 --> 0:03:54.280 his first NFL start, there work some good things out there. Um, 0:03:54.560 --> 0:03:58.600 you talk about the takeaways, he scored, defensive touchdown, you 0:03:58.760 --> 0:04:03.080 scored your highest output throughout the year. But you didn't 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.760 do enough things to win and the team. Adam Gates 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:09.280 said it before we four, we have to get over 0:04:09.320 --> 0:04:12.360 the hump. Well, the Jets climbed up the hell a 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.400 little bit, but then they got knocked down. You can't 0:04:15.440 --> 0:04:18.000 have eleven penalties this team right now, the way it's 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:22.160 currently constituted, any team much any team for that matter, 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.080 in the NFL. You have eleven penalties for a hunter 0:04:24.160 --> 0:04:28.440 and eighteen yards, you're probably gonna lose. What is an 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:32.520 interesting dynamic with that game, was you go plus three, 0:04:32.720 --> 0:04:36.600 you score defensive touchdown, you don't turn the football over, 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:40.120 and you still lose. Offensively, you're moving the ball a 0:04:40.200 --> 0:04:44.599 lot lately against Indianapolis against San Francisco was in the 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.800 first half. Well, you saw the Jets moved the ball 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.280 throughout the game for sixty minutes against the Broncos. But 0:04:49.320 --> 0:04:51.440 they got to get better in the red zone. If 0:04:51.480 --> 0:04:55.520 they continue not to execute and finish with touchdowns, they're 0:04:55.520 --> 0:04:58.120 going to continue to go home with losses. I think 0:04:58.880 --> 0:05:02.760 I think the Denver Ronco's game, he saw bits and 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.040 pieces keep improving, like chipping away at the mountain and 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:09.159 climbing the mountain, to use your analogy, but he couldn't 0:05:09.200 --> 0:05:11.680 get over the hump because when the Jets needed to 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:13.960 put the ball in the end zone, they settled for 0:05:14.040 --> 0:05:16.880 field goals. Sam sam Ficken went five for five on 0:05:16.960 --> 0:05:20.279 a positive note, but you saw off how with Sam 0:05:20.320 --> 0:05:23.680 Donold and his touchdown run, which was awesome. And then 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:27.760 as the Jets kept storming down the field, slowly but surely, 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:30.320 they kept settling for field goals and then the penalties 0:05:30.400 --> 0:05:33.760 come there come into play, and really, what I think 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:38.960 is not mind boggling, but something that really hurts the 0:05:39.040 --> 0:05:41.800 Jets in terms of the penalties. So Broncos had five 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:45.000 scoring drives, not touchdown scoring drives, but they had five 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.320 scoring drives. One of them was the Melvin Gordon run 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:52.919 at the end of the game, to the other four 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:56.960 were extended because of Jets penalties. So you think about 0:05:57.279 --> 0:05:59.680 roughing the passer face mask like, those are the types 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.520 of pet realties that put the Broncos from deep in 0:06:01.520 --> 0:06:05.200 their own territory and potentially having the Jets get the 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.280 ball back with decent field position and too then having 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:11.039 the Broncos put up six you just can't have them, um, 0:06:11.240 --> 0:06:14.680 you know. And there was a time late in that 0:06:14.720 --> 0:06:17.680 fourth quarter where the Jets is scortswall un answered points 0:06:17.680 --> 0:06:20.239 and they had a lead. And then Quinn and Williams, 0:06:20.279 --> 0:06:23.679 who played well against the Broncos with the interior pass rush, 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:28.240 he got his hands on ripping, but unfortunately he got 0:06:28.279 --> 0:06:31.240 the face mask penalty that kept a drive alive. And 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:34.920 it felt like when the defense had opportunities to get 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:39.039 off the field, the self inflicted wounds kept on appearing. 0:06:39.200 --> 0:06:42.440 And again, the Jets have to be more of a 0:06:42.520 --> 0:06:45.960 disciplined football team. In the second quarter of play. They 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:50.680 have to play better complimentary football, and they have to finish. 0:06:51.120 --> 0:06:54.320 I know, we keep harping on the Broncos game not 0:06:54.400 --> 0:06:56.839 only because it was the most recent, but also because 0:06:56.880 --> 0:06:59.360 you kind of got a glimpse of the different problems 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.640 that Jets had had in different weeks before. Like one 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.880 week is penalties and it was not putting the ball 0:07:03.920 --> 0:07:06.640 in the end zone. So before we hear from Bart 0:07:06.640 --> 0:07:09.520 Scott e a, where did the Jets go from here 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:14.559 to ensure that they don't make the same mistake over 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:16.960 and over again in this next quarter of play. Well, 0:07:16.960 --> 0:07:19.120 you gotta find what works inside the towanta and you 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.400 gotta go back in the lab and then mini buy 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.800 that was good for this team right now is zero 0:07:25.000 --> 0:07:29.240 four because even opportunity to do a self scout and say, okay, 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:32.760 well maybe these things would work better for us. The 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:36.640 other thing is the Jets are getting a little bit healthier. 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:41.640 Let's see how healthy they possibly will be later in 0:07:41.680 --> 0:07:45.400 the week. We're thinking about names like Levan bal Bashade, Perrinman, 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:50.400 Denzel Mems offensively, uh Blake Cashman on the defensive side 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:52.280 of the ball, and there's some other names out there. 0:07:52.320 --> 0:07:55.400 You're hoping that offensive line is intact and everybody's ready 0:07:55.400 --> 0:07:58.440 to go, and Donald, of course, you really want Donald 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.119 to play. But when you look ahead to week five, 0:08:01.480 --> 0:08:03.600 you're playing an opponent that's two and two. And I 0:08:03.640 --> 0:08:06.200 know they were kind of a chic pick in the NFC, 0:08:06.480 --> 0:08:09.080 but the Cardinals have not looked good the last two weeks. 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:13.119 They struggled at home against the Detroit Lions, lost that game, 0:08:13.200 --> 0:08:16.640 and then they weren't really in the ballgame against Carolina. 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:19.120 The Panthers had their way with them, and it is 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:21.840 a talented club, but they're trying to find their way 0:08:22.040 --> 0:08:24.520 to and you have the advantage of a team coming 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:28.400 east again for that early start, So we'll we'll see 0:08:28.400 --> 0:08:30.440 what the Jets have in store for them. But I 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.720 think the extra prep should help the Jets, and the 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.319 extra days should help some of these guys on the men. 0:08:36.720 --> 0:08:40.040 And speaking of the Arizona Cardinals, now let's hear from 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.520 Bart Scott and let's head to our Victor Knox Swiss 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:45.680 Army Knife Player of the Game segment. Now it's time 0:08:45.760 --> 0:08:49.360 for our Victor Knox Swiss Army Knife Player of the Game. Bart, 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.600 I'm gonna come to you first. Basically, you can choose 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:55.200 a player or a matchup that is critical to the 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:59.079 Jets success on the field against the Arizona Cardinals. M 0:09:01.160 --> 0:09:04.400 For that, I would probably say Marcus may because I 0:09:04.440 --> 0:09:06.880 expect him be to be close to the line of scrimmage. 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:11.120 He's gonna have to be the spy against Kyler Murray 0:09:11.240 --> 0:09:14.520 and his Sonanigans in space, and you want somebody as 0:09:14.600 --> 0:09:17.360 quick as well that can kind of match his movements 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.840 and listen, this young man can embarrass you. But if 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:22.680 I gotta say anybody wound jest defense that can stay 0:09:22.679 --> 0:09:24.880 with him, stride for stride and still be strong enough 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:27.760 stout against Kenyan Drake in the in the box, I 0:09:27.800 --> 0:09:30.080 want to go with my man and Marcus may Hey, 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:33.120 I like the spy right there, and that was an 0:09:33.160 --> 0:09:37.160 area I thought of going that direction. But I'm gonna 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.880 go with whoever is covering DeAndre Hopkins because the Jets 0:09:40.960 --> 0:09:44.880 have to double him. Bart Scott, you have to double 0:09:44.960 --> 0:09:49.520 him and say have somebody else beat us, because Hopkins 0:09:49.720 --> 0:09:53.800 is by far Kyler Murray's number one receiver and it 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.880 seems like he's been a little bit lost when he 0:09:56.920 --> 0:09:59.760 hasn't been able to get the ball to his top target. 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:03.680 And DeAndre Hopkins leads the NFL thirty nine receptions. But 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.920 I'm actually gonna go with the Jets offense. I'm going 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.960 with the offensive line, whether Mackay Beckton is healthy playing 0:10:08.960 --> 0:10:10.800 on that left side and George Fan on the right 0:10:10.880 --> 0:10:13.920 or whoever plays if one of those two guys are down, 0:10:14.400 --> 0:10:17.720 I want to go with an offensive lineman against Chandler 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:21.319 Jones because I think Chandler Jones rather quiet start to 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:24.760 the two thousand twenty season. Guy had nineteen sacks last season. 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.000 He's only had less than double digit sacks twice in 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:30.520 his career, and that was two years of his first 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:34.240 three professional seasons. And Bart, I'm just curious, what's your 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:36.320 take on Chandler Jones. It doesn't feel like he gets 0:10:36.320 --> 0:10:38.600 a whole lot of national love, but when you look 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.080 at the numbers, feels like he should be His name 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:44.000 should be said in the same breath as the elite 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:47.120 pass rushers in this league. We talk about the elite 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:50.600 pass rushers. You're talking about Khalil Mackie, talking about Von Miller. 0:10:50.640 --> 0:10:52.560 He's right there with every single one of them. But 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.280 the problem is the Arizona Cardinals are out there on 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.640 the West coast. Since the West coast bias. Their their 0:10:57.679 --> 0:10:59.800 games are really seen because they have not been a 0:10:59.800 --> 0:11:03.000 good football team for the last couple of years. But 0:11:03.120 --> 0:11:05.920 his numbers in his productivity is there, and you know, 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:07.920 you look at them now, it seems like they have 0:11:07.960 --> 0:11:10.120 their quarterback of the future, they have their coach of 0:11:10.200 --> 0:11:12.600 the future, and now they're moving forward. You know, they 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.840 made a big move for you know, for Hopkins, and 0:11:15.880 --> 0:11:18.240 you look at what they did draft and Isaiah Simmons. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:21.120 Now they're they're stout on the defensive side of the ball, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.920 and you know, they still have the greatest course, one 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:26.320 of the top five receivers in the history of the game, 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:30.680 and Larry Fitzgerald who probably only has um twelve or 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:32.920 thirteen drops in his career. So when you think about 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:36.640 this Arizona receiving corps, you think about shut handedness that 0:11:36.720 --> 0:11:40.080 if it's thrown up there, that they're those guys are 0:11:40.080 --> 0:11:42.320 gonna come down with it. That's why I'm imperative that 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.800 they make sure that they keep DeAndre Hopkins out of 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:47.240 his rhythm and somebody's gonna get the hard one on one. 0:11:47.280 --> 0:11:49.560 With the other elite ride receivers that they have, the 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:52.760 Cardinals had a lot of leaks in their defense against 0:11:52.880 --> 0:11:56.320 the Carolina Panthers. The Panthers and Teddy Bridgewater moved the 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.600 ball at Will Bart we go back to the other 0:11:59.640 --> 0:12:03.040 side of the ball. You mentioned Larry Fitzgerald. Why are 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:07.319 the Cardinals right now struggling to get the ball vertically? 0:12:07.480 --> 0:12:12.480 It seemed like everything against Carolina was horizontal. Well, you 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:14.720 gotta think. You talk about DeAndre Hopkins, and one of 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.480 the knocks on DeAndre, if it is any, is the 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.800 fact that he's not really a deep threat. You think 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:22.839 about Andre Johnson, all the great you know, receivers that 0:12:22.880 --> 0:12:26.160 were sure handed and tough and one of those balls. 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:28.200 He's not one that takes the top off the defense 0:12:28.280 --> 0:12:30.960 because he doesn't have great long speed. So he's not 0:12:31.040 --> 0:12:34.480 like Terik Hill, he's not like Hollywood Brown, He's not 0:12:34.559 --> 0:12:37.079 like the Sean Jackson. He's not like one of these 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.080 vertical guys. But he is is a guy that gets 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:43.000 those in between fifteen and seventeen y are routes, you know, 0:12:43.040 --> 0:12:45.600 where they're the band gates. More of the plexical birds, 0:12:45.880 --> 0:12:48.200 you know, death by a thousand paper cuts. But he 0:12:48.240 --> 0:12:50.360 does is he keeps the change moving and he can 0:12:50.360 --> 0:12:52.400 get his sploses. But it's closest for him or twenty 0:12:52.480 --> 0:12:54.400 yards or more. He's not a guy that's going to 0:12:54.480 --> 0:12:56.200 take a slant and take it to the house like 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.720 Odell Beckham, you know. So with that being said, they 0:12:58.760 --> 0:13:00.400 want to try and get the ball in hands. Are 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:02.800 trying to let him do the work opposed to trying 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.959 to go vertically. Part let's wrap up with this talk 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:11.959 about DeAndre Hopkins warmed up. I'm sorry. Next time, we'll 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:13.880 have you on for longer. But in terms of your 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:18.280 matchup Marcus May against Kyler Murray, maybe this question extends 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:21.079 more than Marcus May, But how do the Jets defense 0:13:21.160 --> 0:13:25.679 approach stopping someone like Kyler Murray who's very elusive and 0:13:25.720 --> 0:13:28.080 he's not only fast, but he's really quick as well, 0:13:29.120 --> 0:13:34.680 and he's very, very very short over the defense. So 0:13:34.720 --> 0:13:36.480 what you do is what we used to always do 0:13:36.480 --> 0:13:39.760 with Michael vick As you distort his vision because you 0:13:39.760 --> 0:13:41.400 know he can't see over the top, so he has 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:43.560 to see through lanes. So what you do is you 0:13:43.640 --> 0:13:45.560 run you know what we call tom games with the 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.760 two tackles crossing, or you run you games where you 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:51.640 run the end up and you bring the outside linebacker 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.000 underneath into the eight gap and what he sees is 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.280 he sees color and every hole. So what he would 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.120 have to do is to make he would have to 0:13:58.200 --> 0:14:00.520 move so he can see. That slow him Donald for 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.640 being able to decipher what the defense is. He can't 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:05.040 see the rotation of the safeties and you put them 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:07.360 on the move and you give him an exposed edge, 0:14:07.640 --> 0:14:09.640 and that's the edge in which you put Marcus May. 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:10.880 And Marcus May is going to have to be a 0:14:10.960 --> 0:14:15.160 high percentage tackler in space because we're gonna flush him 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:18.520 to Marcus May. So you do that by running all 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:20.920 these games because he can't see over the defense, and 0:14:20.920 --> 0:14:23.400 that's something that we learned from Michael Vick. And actually 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.840 the person who gave Rex that idea was Randall Cunningham, 0:14:27.040 --> 0:14:29.280 who could see over the defense. But he said that 0:14:29.320 --> 0:14:31.640 he needed the same lanes that he ran through, the 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.440 same ones that he threw through. So what you do 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:36.920 is you close all the initial um lanes to throw 0:14:37.000 --> 0:14:39.240 through to make him have to buy time and make 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.200 these off schedule plays to move towards left wars right 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:47.000 so that he can see if you indeed spy Kyler 0:14:47.080 --> 0:14:52.040 Murray with Marcus May and Ashton Davis is healthy. Two f's. 0:14:53.040 --> 0:14:55.920 Would you employ a lot of three safety looks against 0:14:55.920 --> 0:14:59.320 the Cardinals? Uh? E A, You've been spoiled a little 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.240 bit because you're use to the Spartan package, right with 0:15:02.360 --> 0:15:04.480 Eric Smith. You know, it was an honor Eric Smith 0:15:04.520 --> 0:15:07.160 to get one of our better playmakers in space out there. 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.560 But the guy still that was also tough enough that 0:15:09.640 --> 0:15:11.600 if somebody, if a running back came through there, that 0:15:11.720 --> 0:15:14.600 he would bless him as well. So you absolutely want 0:15:14.640 --> 0:15:16.720 to do that because really essentially what you do is 0:15:16.760 --> 0:15:19.680 when you have one on one side, then if if 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:22.480 Kyla goes to the opposite side, now he can't. He 0:15:22.520 --> 0:15:24.440 had to walk through a lot of trash. What we 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:27.120 used to do, and I hate saying we, but what 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:28.800 we used to do on some of the defense that 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:30.800 I had and I remember coming on is a very 0:15:30.800 --> 0:15:33.560 special player Sam was Reggie Bush. And what they would 0:15:33.560 --> 0:15:35.480 do is they were running read screen with him, they 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:37.480 would take the tight end and they were standing in 0:15:37.480 --> 0:15:39.760 your way and then they would swing him. So then 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:41.440 it's a pick play. And then now you gotta try 0:15:41.480 --> 0:15:44.280 get over the top to try and talkle Reggie Bush 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.640 in space as you're chasing them. So what we did 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.880 is we took our two safeties. Wherever side that he 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:53.760 decided to go to, that safety inserted right. So like, 0:15:53.800 --> 0:15:56.400 if you got two safeties, if he comes here, this 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:58.680 guy inserts. If they come here, this guy inserts, and 0:15:58.760 --> 0:16:00.840 this guy becomes a free whole player. So if you 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.080 take two guys, you you have both sides. Now you 0:16:03.120 --> 0:16:05.840 have them cornerball both sides. Whichever side of your sides 0:16:05.920 --> 0:16:08.560 to escape. That's the guy who has the the acc 0:16:08.640 --> 0:16:10.880 and the other guy replaces in the hole. It looks 0:16:10.920 --> 0:16:13.840 for anybody coming on those horizontal rocks, so that maybe 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.440 Kyler doesn't see him on the other side. And that's 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.080 how you steal some mom some interceptions. But they're just me. 0:16:19.280 --> 0:16:22.760 But I'm not the defensive coordinator. I just hold the time. Yeah, 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:25.200 I was gonna say, Bart Scott given a glimpse into 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:28.880 how defenses create a game plan and how they execute. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:32.080 On Sunday's Bart, that was our Victor Knox Swiss Army 0:16:32.160 --> 0:16:34.280 Knife player for the game. Thanks lot, We'll see soon 0:16:35.800 --> 0:16:39.880 Swiss Army Knife. I could be that he, like we 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:45.160 talked about earlier, Bart Scott dissecting and basically giving a 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:47.520 game plan to how to stop Connor Murray. It's very 0:16:47.560 --> 0:16:49.640 interesting to hear him talk about it. But I want 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:51.640 to circle back to something you mentioned. The guys on 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:53.960 I are the guys who are eligible to come off, 0:16:54.240 --> 0:16:57.800 like levy On Bell, like Denzel Mims, like Vincent Smith, 0:16:57.840 --> 0:17:01.320 Patrick Kwasso, even somebody that we haven't heard a lick 0:17:01.400 --> 0:17:04.840 about since training camp started. That's Jabari's an Ega and 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:10.400 this receiving Corps in particular with the addition of Mims 0:17:10.560 --> 0:17:14.040 and Vincent Smith and recently Jeff Smith coming back, and 0:17:14.080 --> 0:17:16.000 then also the offense is a whole with levy On. 0:17:16.960 --> 0:17:20.200 Really what stands out to me is the speed that's 0:17:20.320 --> 0:17:22.920 currently on I are that could come back and help 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:26.120 this offense, particularly Sam Donald. Well, it's a good point 0:17:26.200 --> 0:17:28.960 about the speed because Seawan Jefferson talked about it in 0:17:29.000 --> 0:17:31.520 training camp when we have the opportunity to speak to him, 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:36.040 and Heinz Ward mentioned it too. One thing that jumped 0:17:36.040 --> 0:17:38.720 out to those guys was the speed of this group. 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:43.240 And people might be, you know, a little bit skeptical 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:47.320 when we're talking about this, but Vincent Smith is a 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:50.000 sub four four guy. Brashad Perriman is a sub four 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:53.400 four guy. Denzel Mims is a sub four four guy 0:17:53.840 --> 0:17:57.160 Jeff Smith. I don't know if he's sub four four, 0:17:57.359 --> 0:18:00.440 but he's at least four four fast and at seven 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.840 catches for eighty one yards, and the Jets were really 0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.440 high on him. So, uh, if you have the opportunity 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.720 to get some of these guys back, I think possibly 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.400 that will open something's up in the middle of the 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:18.600 field and the short and intermediate routes as you continue 0:18:18.640 --> 0:18:21.520 to attack vertically and some of these guys can get 0:18:21.520 --> 0:18:26.960 down the field. Unfortunately, listen Denzel Mims talking about fighting 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:30.680 an uphill battle. Guy did not have any training camp practices, 0:18:30.760 --> 0:18:32.760 so I don't know what they expect from him. I 0:18:32.800 --> 0:18:36.520 know the Jets really like what he possibly can bring 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:39.320 to the table because Sam Donald talks about his explosion 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.000 in and outer routs and he's a big guy, and 0:18:42.080 --> 0:18:44.760 we saw Perryman flourished down the stretch last year with 0:18:44.800 --> 0:18:48.159 the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Vincent Smith, you mentioned him before. 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:51.719 He can not only help you offensively, but maybe on 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:54.399 special teams. So we would all love to see what 0:18:54.560 --> 0:18:57.520 this offense looks like with most of those guys back. 0:18:59.080 --> 0:19:02.439 Similar to men, you don't really know what to expect. 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.840 I'm kind of feeling the same thing towards Vincent Smith, 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:07.480 because he came to the Jets last season, had a 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:11.720 few splash plays and you saw the speed on kick return, 0:19:11.800 --> 0:19:14.320 you saw the speed on the end around. And this 0:19:14.400 --> 0:19:16.960 was supposed to be a training camp where I would 0:19:16.960 --> 0:19:18.760 have assumed he would have received a lot of first 0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.480 team reps. Those reps then went to the other Smith, 0:19:21.520 --> 0:19:24.040 that Jeff Smith, because Vincent Smith got hurt. So I'm 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.679 interested to see what Vincent can bring to this Jets 0:19:26.720 --> 0:19:31.600 offense with potentially more of an increased role. But speaking 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.800 about Jeff Smith e A. I was really impressed that 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.800 Jeff Smith, with really no regular season practice, was able 0:19:37.800 --> 0:19:40.480 to get called up from my r have eighty one 0:19:40.600 --> 0:19:44.240 yards on seven receptions, and I thought that they weren't 0:19:44.480 --> 0:19:47.119 just like gimme plays, you know. He wasn't like running 0:19:47.119 --> 0:19:49.719 wide open over the middle of the field. There were 0:19:49.760 --> 0:19:52.080 some plays where he came back and snatched the ball 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.080 out of the air, and Sam Donald went to him 0:19:55.160 --> 0:19:57.920 quite frequently. I thought, I to somebody that I don't 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:00.680 know if there was a chemistry there before hand. Now 0:20:00.720 --> 0:20:04.800 Donald would be finished with six carries for eighty four yards. 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:08.080 He does three third down conversions and the opening drive 0:20:08.680 --> 0:20:11.560 you mentioned before that was the longest run by a 0:20:11.680 --> 0:20:14.960 quarterback in Jets history, in franchise history, if you go 0:20:15.000 --> 0:20:18.400 back to nineteen six when the Jets where the Titans. 0:20:18.480 --> 0:20:22.080 I actually thought Donald at times did a very good 0:20:22.160 --> 0:20:24.880 job in the pocket and getting out of the pocket. 0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.240 And his most impressive throw and one of the most 0:20:28.440 --> 0:20:33.240 I'm gonna say one of his most impressive throws throughout 0:20:33.320 --> 0:20:36.959 his three year career was that sideline toss when he 0:20:37.000 --> 0:20:38.960 got out on the right hand side and through it 0:20:39.000 --> 0:20:41.840 about twenty five yards down the field to Jeff Smith. 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:44.359 But to your point about Smith, he doesn't look like 0:20:44.840 --> 0:20:48.960 somebody who was a former college quarterback. He looks like 0:20:49.400 --> 0:20:53.040 a smooth guy in and out of routes, and he 0:20:53.080 --> 0:20:56.320