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Speaker 2: That's what the Chevy Silverado is all about. That's the

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Speaker 1: Tell them how they can save a few minutes. Now

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Speaker 1: with this new multiflex tailgate. Oh, I'd love to hear

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Speaker 2: But if you work smarter and harder, God blessed Son,

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Speaker 2: The inner gate folds to a large step for easily

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Speaker 2: There is an easy access configuration where the inner gate

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Speaker 2: It can also become a desk or a surface for

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Speaker 2: your tailgating meal. Chevy Silverado modern and advanced with a

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Speaker 2: And that's a full circle way to say. If you

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Simmons, Hey, he body bagged my boys pain body

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Speaker 1: And I know he'd be pissed if he heard this,

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Speaker 2: Hey, after the game, Quinn was like, yo, U ninety

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Speaker 2: And like for me, it's all this is it's like, well,

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Speaker 1: Like it's over. I enjoy it. I think two out there,

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Speaker 2: They won four games last year? Right, four of them?

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Speaker 2: Oh that's a tough look for your boy, Ramsey. But

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Speaker 2: Like not his best game he's ever played, but doesn't

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Speaker 2: I don't like his attitude. I don't like anything about

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Speaker 2: works with the conversation like yeah, fair absolutely, I respect

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Speaker 2: that that was that was a good move. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: But looking at Aaron Donald, it's like, yeah, the potential

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Speaker 1: Reggie Reggie Whitehead. How many All Pros? Eight for eight,

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Speaker 1: do you mean he'll be on that. He'll be on

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Speaker 1: two All Decade team because it's twenty twenty one, bro. No, yeah,

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Speaker 2: But in the next nine years, there's not gonna be

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Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, that's that happens to everybody, dude, No one

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Speaker 2: happens does everyone who's a big fucking name you can't

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Speaker 2: he was still a behemoth of a man. But everyone

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Speaker 2: Is not a guy that's gonna make the All decad

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Speaker 2: the next three four years, right, right. But Aaron Donald,

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Speaker 1: You were just an easy bro. They're they're deep out there.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: There was like four to one Nebraska and Michigan fans

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Speaker 2: God, yeah, dude. There was a lot of Nebraska fans

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Speaker 2: He's like, hey the boy. I'm like, oh, dude, what's up.

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Speaker 1: I was like, damn, my boy's got a real presence

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Speaker 1: let you do your thing, or the commodorees. What do

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Speaker 2: Hey, A Z was fun though A Z was a blast,

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Speaker 2: had a good time, got back to the roots a

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Speaker 1: Thank you, let's go boys we had.

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Speaker 2: That's got a big opportunity coming up for him to invest.

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Speaker 2: He is, he's very lucky. You're a very lucky man

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Speaker 2: to have the even the opportunity. I'm happy for you.

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Speaker 1: See that's the crazy bar. I don't even fully understand

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Speaker 1: the opportunity, right, So I'm open. So you've invested with

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Speaker 1: other things I've done. What's up? You've invested in other

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Speaker 1: things I've done. Do we get to talk about? No,

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Speaker 1: that out. That's crazy. I'm gonna say, you can invest

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Speaker 1: in other things we've done. Yeah, I know. And how's

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Speaker 1: that working out? Seems good?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gon't be our rocket doggy. Hey, we always

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Speaker 2: gonna be I Oh, We're always gonna be all right.

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Speaker 2: But if you guys have a chance, go on Instagram

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Speaker 2: follow Rubber Ranch, Rebel Ranch. I think we're up to

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Speaker 2: like fourteen hundred followers. Were kind of kidding on my

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Speaker 1: Here we come.

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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, So follow that. It's gonna

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Speaker 2: be dope. We're doing a big renovation June July. Should

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I did a shout out of my story. I

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Speaker 2: On the weekend's like on hunred thousand people come up

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Speaker 2: It's the only place in the world you'll find an

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Speaker 2: old truck, a ferrari, and a horse parks in the

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Speaker 2: What's that I said, Identity Criss tell people many they

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Speaker 1: Hey, no, don't sleep on the boy. You got a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've roped before, but I'm not a roper. Come

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Speaker 1: Come on. I got you a couple of times, you devil.

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Speaker 1: I got this rope out. I got hey, I got

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Speaker 1: just walk and I'd heal them. Just just snap him

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Speaker 2: We're cruising down from the creek back down to Paradise

432
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,840
Speaker 2: Valley and Will is in a mood.

433
00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,639
Speaker 1: He's like, let's get some ice cream in a mood

434
00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:46,800
Speaker 1: for in a mood.

435
00:18:46,880 --> 00:18:48,840
Speaker 2: So we're like, yeah, so there's cold Stones. He closes

436
00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:51,080
Speaker 2: in twenty five minutes to thirty minute drive. They just

437
00:18:51,200 --> 00:18:53,280
Speaker 2: leave the bar overs in Furious Tokyo.

438
00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, minutes, leave the bar early. Taylor's dancing. Hey, twenty

439
00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,200
Speaker 1: minutes we gotta go. You see this, ye me the

440
00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:02,359
Speaker 1: closing students sign on the on the maps.

441
00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,000
Speaker 2: So I started cruising down the one o one fast

442
00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,240
Speaker 2: in the Fears Tokyo drift, Get off, get there. We

443
00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:11,760
Speaker 2: at four minutes to fucking spare dude, and Colestones is

444
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:15,800
Speaker 2: closed Heartbreak Hotel, so I'm already in. I'm invest Now

445
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,920
Speaker 2: what are we gonna do? We pop on the old

446
00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,600
Speaker 2: phone sitting in the parking lot. What's open Sonic?

447
00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,920
Speaker 1: We started driving towards Sonic and we see Mickey D's

448
00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:25,119
Speaker 1: and we're like, hey, when's lest some I gotta make

449
00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,399
Speaker 1: flurrying gold arches, dude. We yeah, those gold arches in

450
00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 1: the distance like a little oasis of ice cream. We

451
00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:33,040
Speaker 1: do a quick U turn, get in there. We order

452
00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,080
Speaker 1: a couple before we keep going. Can I throw in

453
00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:38,240
Speaker 1: a little tailor? And Taylor like, yeah, let's hit McDonald's.

454
00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:40,359
Speaker 1: I don't really say much in the back because I

455
00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:44,120
Speaker 1: got like, is the ice cream machine broken? Remember that? Well? Yeah,

456
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 1: you guys are you guys are like, oh yeah, let's

457
00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 1: go to McDonald's. Yeah, And I was kind of like,

458
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,359
Speaker 1: I don't know if they're ice cream folks like that,

459
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,920
Speaker 1: but I'm like, you know what, I'm ready to go,

460
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,119
Speaker 1: so go ahead. So we we pull in there. The

461
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 1: guy you can tell on me a little help you.

462
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:00,879
Speaker 1: He's on that thing, and I'm like, yeah, give me

463
00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,560
Speaker 1: a second. He just goes and kind of just wait.

464
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,800
Speaker 1: So I'm like, oh, like it is going in these burgers, Doggie,

465
00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:11,360
Speaker 1: enjoy your job, like Chick fil A and these other

466
00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:15,320
Speaker 1: spots one place in and out. Hey, Chick fil A

467
00:20:15,440 --> 00:20:20,159
Speaker 1: is not a slapper. I'm just gonna say it. Let

468
00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 1: him finish the story before you just fucking throw some bullshit.

469
00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,119
Speaker 1: Chick is not a slapper. Pause. So we have to McDonald's.

470
00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,359
Speaker 2: We decide, Uh, my boy over here is getting a

471
00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:32,879
Speaker 2: quarter pounder of a cheese. I'm a classic kid route guy.

472
00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:34,879
Speaker 2: Haven't been to McDonald's in like seven years. So I

473
00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,560
Speaker 2: get two of the regular cheeseburgers with Max sauce on it.

474
00:20:38,000 --> 00:20:39,920
Speaker 2: Kind of a hitter, right, yeah, jpc's what I'm talking

475
00:20:39,920 --> 00:20:42,800
Speaker 2: about back there, and we get the mcflury's. We look

476
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 2: over at the mcflury's side on the top right, it's

477
00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,119
Speaker 2: just just mcflury and then small quotes Oreo, that's.

478
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:51,200
Speaker 1: All they got. Ship they got here here. I'm like,

479
00:20:51,240 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 1: we'll take three large orio mcflury's, so we rip her

480
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,120
Speaker 1: on the side large. Remember the story?

481
00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it takes a minute, dude, not just sixty seconds.

482
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,200
Speaker 2: A minute, right, because I'm trying to be cool and hip.

483
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:05,359
Speaker 2: The guy comes over. I give him my card, He

484
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,840
Speaker 2: gives me the burgers first, and we're waiting on these mcflurries.

485
00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,720
Speaker 2: He tosses out the mcflury's. These bitches were in a

486
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:11,399
Speaker 2: thimble size.

487
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,359
Speaker 1: Dude. They were this fucking bait. Two spoonfuls to finish.

488
00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:19,640
Speaker 1: Will fucking Dixie coch. Hey, Will goes Will, all quite

489
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:21,920
Speaker 1: in the back. I give him. I give him the mcflury.

490
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,760
Speaker 2: I wasn't really paying attention. He's you know, he's just

491
00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,480
Speaker 2: over here looking around, and uh, I give him mc

492
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,159
Speaker 2: flir andy. You just see like his hand kind of

493
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,879
Speaker 2: creep up as I can pass it back to him,

494
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:33,720
Speaker 2: and and he grabs him and goes back into the

495
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:35,160
Speaker 2: little cave and he it's quiet.

496
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 1: First. He goes, Yo, what the fuck is this? Mad

497
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:40,600
Speaker 1: as fuck you? I just put the ship in my pocket.

498
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 1: I'm done, bro, I'm not joking. Go and we're trying

499
00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 1: to order a large mcflur and you can fit that

500
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 1: thing in your pocket. It's and the candy will say

501
00:21:49,000 --> 00:21:51,119
Speaker 1: cookie because it's oreo. But the cookie you put in

502
00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:53,640
Speaker 1: there and they stir in it's only on the surface. Yeah,

503
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,399
Speaker 1: after you get to the first look full. Yeah, it

504
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 1: makes it look oh this this can be a banger.

505
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,959
Speaker 1: You're like, yeah, Taylor, I was so mad. Tal And goes, hey,

506
00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:05,480
Speaker 1: well you can have mine too. The ship it's.

507
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,440
Speaker 2: Small as fuck, dude. The cat that goes on top

508
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 2: of it is bigger than the cup. It's ridiculous, ridiculous.

509
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: You're probably thinking while you're.

510
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 2: Listening and watching, Oh, it's all right. They probably put

511
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:15,800
Speaker 2: the ice cream up to the top of the cap. No,

512
00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,119
Speaker 2: they fucking don't. It's the brim of the lid. Tough,

513
00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:24,399
Speaker 2: fucking tough. So no one's fucking loving. No one's fucking

514
00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:27,359
Speaker 2: loving that. A couple and he's not wrong, and the

515
00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,639
Speaker 2: cookie's gone. It's ice cream at the bottom. It's it's

516
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 2: a fucking still fire.

517
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,480
Speaker 1: But like, yo, we're the boys. You know what I'm saying.

518
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 2: We need a couple extra spoonfuls to make sure our

519
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:39,320
Speaker 2: belly is happy.

520
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,680
Speaker 1: I ate my first half, put mine down, grabbed tails,

521
00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: and ate her top half just because the oreo in it.

522
00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:47,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it. So we decide we get the burgers everything.

523
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 2: I don't even open up my burger on fucking pissed. No,

524
00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 2: we threw We put the ship in the corner.

525
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: Like we're done with this. We go to Sonicy.

526
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:05,000
Speaker 2: Yo, Sonic's just casually selling long winers, those long pieces.

527
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:12,359
Speaker 1: You get you love them things? Huh, bro, get the

528
00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,720
Speaker 1: fuck out of here. You like those? How do you

529
00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 1: eat that not thing. Oh he looks like a two bites.

530
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,720
Speaker 1: How did you like he's throwing that?

531
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: Just grab it out of the wrapper, holding with two

532
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 2: hands like this and go oh tough, like you know

533
00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,240
Speaker 2: you're thinking about yourself. Grab a double double hand like that,

534
00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 2: but you got a hold like this like you're kind

535
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,680
Speaker 2: of and then you're just holding the tip.

536
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, this one's the real holder. Tilt the head, he said,

537
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 1: you had to tilt their head on that thing. So

538
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: they sell that.

539
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 2: Me and Will spent about I don't know, six or

540
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:49,200
Speaker 2: seven minutes just laughing about that until we press the

541
00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 2: button to order and then we get our shakes, and

542
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,680
Speaker 2: it was beast. I mean, Colstone would have just fixed

543
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: it off. Their employees were committed to their craft.

544
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, right on.

545
00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,280
Speaker 2: Four minutes. And you can't just make me up a

546
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,960
Speaker 2: birthday cake remix like the boy wants. I'm trying to

547
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 2: get and I gotta have it and pine size. That's

548
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 2: a wild ship, dude, chick fil a. Yeah, let's talk

549
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:11,159
Speaker 2: about that before.

550
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,840
Speaker 1: Let's give context now before you just let's context right now.

551
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: Ship's trash, all right, now, that's my stance to put

552
00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: you guys, because there's a lot of pissed off people

553
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 1: right now driving their Chevy Silverado's listening to this and

554
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:31,680
Speaker 1: they're closed on Sunday. Yeah, it's a hot's day. Well no, listen, yeah,

555
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: everybody's everyone's in church for a couple hours and then

556
00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: you get out and you have like a hitter, like

557
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: check the numbers, check the tape.

558
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:41,000
Speaker 2: No, yeah, I'm close one day of the week and

559
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 2: still crush it. When they're at Chick fil A in

560
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 2: Atlanta Stadium and it was just closed on Sundays.

561
00:24:45,520 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're lying. But hey, hey on, because people

562
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:54,240
Speaker 1: need to empathize where tailors coming from. Because he got it.

563
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: Every time they had Yeah, every time they had a game,

564
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,480
Speaker 1: their postgame meal was like Chick fil A. It wasn't

565
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:00,080
Speaker 1: a post game you know.

566
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: Every time we flew, even now for the last eight years,

567
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,160
Speaker 2: every time we fly, they have Chick fil A in there.

568
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: After a while, the smell gets to you, right, It's

569
00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:11,879
Speaker 1: just you're not getting that fresh, foggy.

570
00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 2: Sandwich or the little chicken sandwich or whatever, and you

571
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: got the nuggies. Now I will give you this Chick

572
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,240
Speaker 2: fil A. I love the variety of sauces you'all have

573
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: and I'm talking to you guys as if you guys

574
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: are now employers of Chick fil A. I don't fuck

575
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 2: with it because of my situation and be on that

576
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 2: plane all the time.

577
00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,920
Speaker 1: It just smells to me. Now, I think you need it.

578
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 1: They hit or milkshakes though, But I still think you

579
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 1: need to not just not say it's fucking trash because

580
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: you haven't had a real experience at Chick fil A.

581
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: You just have. When I was in high school, I

582
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:40,880
Speaker 1: used to go chick You tasteuss are a lot different

583
00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: back in ice, so your brain's not even that developed either.

584
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,640
Speaker 1: So now that my brain's fully developed, I can say

585
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 1: it's you can make a rational, more mature decision about it. Yeah,

586
00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 1: you bring up the stats.

587
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 3: We're talking Chick fil A, bro, number three on the list.

588
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 3: They ring number three with two hundred franchise.

589
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 1: You know how the fuck is McDonald's number one, dude,

590
00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:03,000
Speaker 1: Because like they got thirteen thousand units, Bro, that's tough.

591
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 1: Damn Subways out there with twenty two thousand. Just I

592
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 1: thought somebody kind of fell off a little bit.

593
00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: I thought subway was kind of gone, Like you go

594
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,000
Speaker 2: and grab a sub you gotta put some fragrances in

595
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 2: there or something like put a lavender candle up, because

596
00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 2: when you walk in there, you walk out, you smell

597
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:17,880
Speaker 2: like Subway for the rest of the day.

598
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:27,320
Speaker 1: They and everybody. Yeah, it's tough in the day. Quiz

599
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,800
Speaker 1: Nos probably the best one. I thought Subway was so

600
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 1: good back back in high school. Yeah, no question, murdered Subway.

601
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: I'd come out to the city and people be talking

602
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: about their little delis and onion and karaokey.

603
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, they the fuck out of here, dude, and no way,

604
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,880
Speaker 2: Swear to god, I love that, dude.

605
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,679
Speaker 1: That was my favorite thing. They low they had They

606
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: seems like they fell off. They had to lay low

607
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,440
Speaker 1: a little bit after the whole Jared thing. Yeah, but

608
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:52,359
Speaker 1: like they're not the one doing it, Like you know

609
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, But that was your front runner. Yeah.

610
00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: Speaking of front runners, how about the Verizon guys selling

611
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,560
Speaker 2: out for Sprint now you know what I'm saying.

612
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 1: Can you hear me now?

613
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 3: Guy?

614
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 2: Yeah, And he's like he's like kind of ships on

615
00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,359
Speaker 2: Verizon without saying Verizon.

616
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. But anyway, how long have we been doing this intro?

617
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,479
Speaker 1: You should probably wrap her up. We should probably get

618
00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,800
Speaker 1: to the kJ episode. All right, that's cool. I'm just

619
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: happy I got to be a part of it. Yeah,

620
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,880
Speaker 1: I know, you know what I'm saying. You weren't gonna

621
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 1: get to yesterday. You had your little, uh Preds thing. Yeah,

622
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,040
Speaker 1: I hope that thing's gonna be sick. Oh, Talor's got

623
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: a little video coming out because they're doing a little

624
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:29,679
Speaker 1: outdoor game. Yeah, that should come out next Monday, right

625
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: six days from now. And it's I'll only tell something, dude.

626
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: If the Predators have good ore, they're good at editing

627
00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: and shifting things around, my acting skills are gonna look

628
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 2: fucking insane. They're gonna be outstanding. But if they're not

629
00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 2: good at editing, I'm gonna get exposed.

630
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm stoked. I'm stoked. Regardless. I like doing it on film.

631
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: He's got on film, but like you know, it's like

632
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 2: not the real thing, you know what I'm saying, something

633
00:27:53,280 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 2: funny stuff. It really wasn't like uh, Johansson and Sorrows

634
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 2: were kind of the ones that I really didn't want

635
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 2: to fucking be there. But you know how it is

636
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:04,040
Speaker 2: when you're in the season locked in, you're locked in,

637
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:05,600
Speaker 2: like you don't want to be doing this extra stuff.

638
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: It's and for me as a fan of the Predators

639
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,159
Speaker 2: and like being a part of the Nashville community, like

640
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 2: that was dope. I choked to be here for Catfish

641
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 2: one time, Like, hey, we want you to be a

642
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 2: part of this, like one of the biggest games.

643
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Speaker 1: So super stoked on that super stoked. But anyway, kJ

644
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,639
Speaker 1: Wright outstanding. Yeah, he was awesome. Anybody who's tuned in

645
00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:28,640
Speaker 1: from the Seattle Raiders all of it, they're gonna fucking

646
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:32,800
Speaker 1: lovelessen to kJ soft spoken dude, monster. He I mean,

647
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 1: he's a study. He was a top one hundred player.

648
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: He talks about being pissed off in free agency because

649
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: he didn't have a phone call all the way until August.

650
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,120
Speaker 1: We're talking about the top one hundred for wild Yes, bro,

651
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: But he gets into all that, his frustrations about the process,

652
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: anxieties with playing football, being a free agent. We com

653
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: bear our little free agent stories. He's like, I mean, man,

654
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: what was your Because he was talking about not getting called.

655
00:28:53,440 --> 00:28:55,120
Speaker 1: He's like, oh, my other one was even worse, or

656
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 1: my other one was just as bad. He goes, I

657
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: didn't get called my first for agency either, And we

658
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 1: kind of got into it and I go so when'd

659
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 1: you get a call in the first regency. He was like, oh,

660
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,600
Speaker 1: they called me on the third day and we just

661
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, what, you're still in the first wave. Yeah,

662
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: like you just think it called on day one. But mindset, dude. Yeah,

663
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 1: he's he's got some like stoic. He's a football He's

664
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: a football guy. Dude, he's all backer. He just wants

665
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,760
Speaker 1: to tackle motherfuckers. And uh don't want to. I can't

666
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 1: say what he's doing after football because he didn't want

667
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 1: it to be on the pod. We talked about him

668
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: playing with Bobby Wagner. Yeah, I can't wait. It's part

669
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: of ball. Like he's all ball, bro, Like you'll hear it.

670
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,479
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, I'm trying to get him to think

671
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: about playing, like here's how you handle the back end

672
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 1: of your career. Because he goes, I'm not gonna play

673
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: anywhere if I got to wait till training camp or

674
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 1: anything like that. I'm like, well, let's let me try

675
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,719
Speaker 1: to tell you about the other side of it, Like, well,

676
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:47,920
Speaker 1: right before you come on the roster, you get guaranteed

677
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: and you just kind of play the game. And he

678
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: was just so like he respects and loves the game

679
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,000
Speaker 1: so much. I'm sitting there and I'm low key like

680
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: feeling bad that I was trying to even change his mind,

681
00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 1: because I'm like, Yo, this dude loves the game. But

682
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 1: we asked about Russ Wilson. A lot of us up.

683
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687
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688
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689
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Speaker 2: of those little deals in the back. I don't know

690
00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 2: what they're called, but the caboose is way down the

691
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692
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Speaker 2: the caboose. Get part of that meat potatoes in the middle.

693
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694
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718
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Speaker 1: we got a kjright on the bus. I know Kjwright honestly,

719
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: first time meeting you is over social media Twitter. You

720
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 1: had a video that you that you posted that we'll

721
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: get to in a little bit play with you on

722
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 1: the Raiders for five weeks. It was a great five weeks.

723
00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 1: I'm sure you're like, how's this dag? Just like buddy

724
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: buddy with everybody because we hadn't known each other at all.

725
00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: But what uh? You came to Nashville just to do this?

726
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: Just for you? My man? You live where?

727
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 3: Well, I live in all the Ressissippi, born in Memphis,

728
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:19,880
Speaker 3: but I'm like.

729
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: Three hours away, so you're where'd you fly from? I

730
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: from Seattle. I took a red eye, So you took

731
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: a red eye here and in Nashville. It's nine am

732
00:32:28,840 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: right now. I'm proud number one. Hey, run of applause

733
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,280
Speaker 1: for the boys for being here at nine am. This

734
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:38,880
Speaker 1: is our earliest, bro, not until the afternoon. Yeah yeah,

735
00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:41,400
Speaker 1: this is our earliest part we've we've ever done nine

736
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: am in the morning, So shut out the boys. Uh

737
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,479
Speaker 1: So you landed, You took a red eye, landed at

738
00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 1: eight here at nine and then after this you're gonna

739
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: drive to Memphis. I appreciate you, bro, I appreciate that.

740
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: I appreciate that dog there's a lot too unpacked that

741
00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: I'm curious to talk to you about. Because what year

742
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,000
Speaker 1: did you just finish? Ten? Finished eleven? You just finished eleven.

743
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: That's fucking awesome. That's fucking awesome. Yeah, knock on what man, Bro,

744
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,240
Speaker 1: you just finished your eleven. You're somebody I've obviously watched

745
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: for the entirety of my career. Uh, the way you

746
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 1: guys would play certain styles of cover three, rat coverage

747
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: Cover one, you covering running backs out on the out

748
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:25,840
Speaker 1: on the outside, which always blew my mind because I'm like,

749
00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: why isn't Kj's the bigger motherfucker? Why is Bobby or somebody? Yeah,

750
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: why is it he going out there and doing it?

751
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 1: But our coach is always a Kirk al Vadadi. He

752
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: was always a big fan of your game too, So

753
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: we would legitimately like watch you guys and watch your concepts.

754
00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,640
Speaker 1: How you guys did like watch Bobby play rat here,

755
00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,440
Speaker 1: watching playing between the hashes. Ray was a big fan

756
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 1: of showing Bobby playing between the hashes and everything. Uh,

757
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 1: but Bro, eleven years man, and uh, you just finished

758
00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: with the Raiders. You were a top one hundred player

759
00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: last year and you went through a very high and

760
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: low off season, more lows than high. Yeah, talk about

761
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: that because you you were with Seattle for a decade. Yeah,

762
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 1: and uh again a top one hundred player. I think

763
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 1: you finally got your flowers because I think you've been

764
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 1: should have been at it, right, you've at it. Yeah,

765
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: you've been somebody, uh with Bobby. You've had Bobby there,

766
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: and obviously everybody knows about Bobby Wagner. He's been like

767
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: an All Pro every year. But you're somebody like us

768
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: watching the tape. You're somebody that's always you're right there

769
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: next to him. You never seem to get your flowers

770
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 1: until this past year. Talk about you know, talk about

771
00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,360
Speaker 1: ending your decade in Seattle and why you're so frustrated

772
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 1: this past off season. Yeah.

773
00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:40,439
Speaker 3: So I put together a very very in my eyes,

774
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,160
Speaker 3: the brink up on a career. I just did you know,

775
00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 3: got the Super Bowls, got the Pro Bowls, almost got

776
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 3: a thousand tackles in Seattle. I saw that, bro I'm

777
00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 3: like seven eight away. But anyway, so yeah, I had

778
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 3: to just had to stell a career and crack the

779
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,359
Speaker 3: top one hundred for the first time, number sixty seven.

780
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 3: But if you look at that list. I'm the only

781
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 3: guy that was a free agent, right, So I'm like,

782
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 3: how the hell did I put together this really good career?

783
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 3: First of all, put together this really good year ten,

784
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 3: And don't nobody want me?

785
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: Because it also came out you you were even injured

786
00:35:15,480 --> 00:35:16,879
Speaker 1: at nineteen and you bounced back.

787
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 3: Y'all got heard in eighteen. And I had two really

788
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,520
Speaker 3: good years back to back, really good years. Then they

789
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 3: drafted linebacker first round, and I was like, oh, so

790
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: you can kind of see the writing on the wall.

791
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 3: I never had anybody's drafted first round of my position.

792
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 3: But we all know when a guy gets drafted your spot,

793
00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 3: something's about to happen. Either you're about to get benched, cut,

794
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 3: or about to rotate in and out.

795
00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,279
Speaker 1: And so I didn't.

796
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,440
Speaker 3: I didn't have any guarantees on that year, so if

797
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: they would let me go, I wouldn't have had no money.

798
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 3: And so go into that have a fantastic year ten

799
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: in free agency here and I'm like, oh, it's a

800
00:35:56,680 --> 00:36:00,080
Speaker 3: freaking old brainer, Like somebody about to pick me up. Man,

801
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,320
Speaker 3: I'm about to either come back to Seattle or a

802
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,320
Speaker 3: team just gonna want me. And when I tell you that,

803
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 3: my phone was dry, like I got zero phone calls,

804
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:13,799
Speaker 3: that's are you for real?

805
00:36:14,680 --> 00:36:14,919
Speaker 4: Zero?

806
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,759
Speaker 3: Seattle didn't call me, Cowboys, rams, niners, nobody.

807
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: Nobody even inquired.

808
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 3: No, And I was like, what the hell is going on?

809
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 3: And then I'm like, you know, at first, I just

810
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: waited and I hit my agent like that, what is

811
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 3: going on? And he said, it's just the first wave.

812
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 3: There's there's nothing out there. And I was like, yeah,

813
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 3: we gotta be kidding me.

814
00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: You should like you're somebody and I understand what the

815
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 1: whole wave process, but you're somebody who I got to

816
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: be your first day dude, Like what are they looking at?

817
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: What are they thinking?

818
00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,919
Speaker 3: And bro, when I said, that's like the top three,

819
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 3: like lowest I've ever been in, like my NFL career.

820
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:59,200
Speaker 3: Like the sadness and the stress and anxiety that I

821
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 3: had was like there's nothing, nothing could describe it.

822
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 1: How are you dealing with that? Man?

823
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,959
Speaker 3: Well, thank god I got you know, married wife, wife,

824
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 3: through kids, and so I have, you know, have my family,

825
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 3: have my family, have my support system. I was training

826
00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 3: with the Fellas, going to Tracy Ford and and BLV Washington,

827
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: just staying around people, and I was in my word,

828
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 3: I was praying and meditating daily because if I didn't

829
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 3: have that, I would have lost my freaking mind.

830
00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, and and and bro, it's just just went through

831
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: the first wave.

832
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 3: You know, other teams like Wait to the Draft, that

833
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:37,000
Speaker 3: went by, O t As went by, Training camp went by,

834
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:38,880
Speaker 3: and it was nothing.

835
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 1: The Raiders the first one to call me. Yeah.

836
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: No, the the Niners were the first to call me.

837
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: It's funny. John Lynch called me and he's like, Cayjay,

838
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 3: what's up, man? I see you're still a creation. I

839
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,719
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, you notice. And he's like, man, we'd

840
00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 3: love to get you out here. We'd love to get

841
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:59,279
Speaker 3: you out here. Man. You know, we've always watched you.

842
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 3: We thought it was you know, brain that you was

843
00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: signed with Seattle. That's what he said. And I was like, yeah,

844
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 3: you know that that didn't happen. And so yeah, man,

845
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 3: I want to come, you know, come out here.

846
00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 1: And get a visit in. And that went by, and

847
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 1: so when I visited, I never visited. I never visited.

848
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,719
Speaker 3: You just follow up, just like I'm gonna talk to

849
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 3: Shanahan and Shannon, you know, they say Shanahan's on board.

850
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 3: And long story short, VET minimum was offered disrespectful, and

851
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,239
Speaker 3: I'm like, there's no way that KJR Wright name would

852
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:34,080
Speaker 3: be signed next to a VET minimum contract. I put

853
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 3: together too good of a resume to do that, you know.

854
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:40,520
Speaker 3: I just I just retired, live off, live off the

855
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 3: money that I made and that didn't fall through. And

856
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,360
Speaker 3: then Gus Bradley caused me. When I was sitting on

857
00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 3: the deck, Gus Bradley, defensive coordinator for the Raiders, he

858
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 3: comes like, kJ what's up?

859
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: Like, what up, Gus?

860
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 3: I'm free as a bird and Gus, you know, flew

861
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 3: me out there for a visit visit with the Raiders

862
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 3: and yeah, signed a few weeks later.

863
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,400
Speaker 1: What did you think about the opportunity you were presented

864
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,959
Speaker 1: with the with the Raiders because Denzel had just gotten

865
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 1: traded out there, right, Yeah, so going out there knowing

866
00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: that they kind of had a little bit of a depth,

867
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 1: try to put together.

868
00:39:13,719 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 3: What was your I was confused. While the Raiders was calling,

869
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: I was like, why do the Raiders want me? They

870
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 3: got Denzel got Corey Little to Nick Nick Nick Quickowski, Yeah,

871
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 3: and I was like, why do they want me?

872
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: But Nick Morrow had got hurt.

873
00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:30,360
Speaker 3: I realized Nick got heard, Nick got hurt and Jacmon

874
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 3: was hurt and so it was an auto position that

875
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 3: was open for me.

876
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: And Gus called me.

877
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 3: He's like, hey, we got a spot open for you.

878
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 3: What you think you know you won't be every down backer?

879
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:43,480
Speaker 3: And I was like, and so, yeah, I just at

880
00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 3: that point, that's when to get into camp because it

881
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:48,719
Speaker 3: was week one of the regular season. You gotta get

882
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 3: on week one because once your your salary is the

883
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 3: antique salaries guaranteed. And you know, I missed all the

884
00:39:55,080 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 3: training count you know, all the OTAs and I just

885
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 3: signed week one and I played in like six days.

886
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: It's Ravens. Yeah. Fortunately he's got that cover three system. Yeah,

887
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: that you can pick up on. But you also posted

888
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: that video in training camp where you took to Twitter

889
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: and you shot a video. What made you want to

890
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: shoot that video? Man, it's just the one you had retweeted.

891
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I just wanted to let the world know,

892
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,560
Speaker 3: like in the midst of like my adversity, in the

893
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 3: midst of my sadness, Like no matter what anyone is

894
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 3: going through in this world, it's important that through it

895
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,680
Speaker 3: all you stay positive, and it's important that you don't

896
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 3: let your spirits get get so down and so in

897
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 3: the midst of what I was going through, I was

898
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 3: still working my ass off, I was still preparing. I

899
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 3: was still watching film because I knew that something was

900
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: going to fall through, and so I could have been

901
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 3: in my feelings just eating like shit and not training

902
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 3: and all that stuff, but I prepared, like I'll be

903
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 3: a week one starter. So I just wanted to just

904
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,920
Speaker 3: put that out there and let people know, like, no

905
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 3: matter what you're going through, just keep working.

906
00:40:54,040 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: You know.

907
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 3: Then you had, you know, you had retweeted and got it.

908
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:58,680
Speaker 3: You know, it spread a little more, and so I

909
00:40:58,760 --> 00:40:59,360
Speaker 3: appreciate that.

910
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,040
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you're kJ right, I think everybody in

911
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: Seattle is pretty curious, Like I'm sure you posted something

912
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: like that because you heard and was seeing a lot

913
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 1: of people kind of questioning what was happening, and you

914
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: wanted to do that on your own because there's I

915
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 1: mean there's I mean sure, I guess maybe a few

916
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: more people saw it, but I mean everybody was so

917
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: curious as to why you hadn't been signed. Because Pete Carroll,

918
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: he was doing press conferences and stuff saying like, oh,

919
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: I think he was he was alluding to that you

920
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: guys were in conversation, the door is still open. It

921
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like that was true at all.

922
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,560
Speaker 3: He said, the door was still open. It's like, can'tja

923
00:41:35,840 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 3: love to have you back? You know, it's a big

924
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 3: negotiating chess game.

925
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: Ye.

926
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 3: But but the only way that I would have came

927
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 3: back was if the guys, if their plan didn't work right,

928
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 3: they went to a new scheme and want to put

929
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,080
Speaker 3: new people into his Like, it's essentially the only way

930
00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:54,800
Speaker 3: you're coming back is if this plan doesn't look good.

931
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: Right, because every hang on there were a couple of

932
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,839
Speaker 1: young guys that they had drafted by now right, there's

933
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: that first rounder, and then there was another guy, right,

934
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 1: second rounder, a second rounder. Yeah, so they're planning for

935
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: you know, you and wags. So like at some point,

936
00:42:07,840 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: these guys like it's gonna start to decline. We gotta

937
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: prepare for the future. Yeah, And so I just had

938
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: this little glimpse of hope.

939
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 3: And and when it came down to it, when it

940
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: came when it came down to sign with the Raiders,

941
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 3: I'll call Pete, I said, Pete, I got this offer

942
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 3: on the table. I really don't want to leave. I

943
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:28,320
Speaker 3: don't want to leave. I don't want to stay in Seattle?

944
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 3: Is there anything we could do? I take a lesser role.

945
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: I understand you want to play Jordan, I'll come off

946
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 3: the field.

947
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: What what can we do? You're better than Seattle? You

948
00:42:38,600 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: want you want to be there? Yeah? And he's like God,

949
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,239
Speaker 1: catch you know Pete, you know he's missing, Like God,

950
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: this this, I hate this. Let me.

951
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 3: I'm gonna talk to John the gym and I still

952
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 3: if we can get something done?

953
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, would you have sign would you play for VET?

954
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 1: Would you assign vat minimum at that point? At that

955
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,280
Speaker 1: point to stay in Seattle knowing that the rare should

956
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: just offered you a contract. When you call Pete and

957
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: you're like, hey, I'll do this, I'll do this, No,

958
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have you would enough. I wouldn't know if

959
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:09,880
Speaker 1: they would have to compete a little bit.

960
00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 3: If the Raiders offering me vetamnium minimum and the Seals

961
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 3: offered me vetmentium, I would have left.

962
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: You would have left Seattle? Yeah, on both VET minimum? Yeah?

963
00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 3: Why is that because my because my pride, my ego.

964
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,280
Speaker 1: But the Raiders had offered you, and you called Pete

965
00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,960
Speaker 1: and said, hey man, they are what the Raiders offer

966
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,480
Speaker 1: you was like five, what's it? Five million? Up to five?

967
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 1: Up to five?

968
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 3: So the Raiders offer you up to five. You you

969
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 3: choose to call Pete and say, is there anything we

970
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 3: can do?

971
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: But what are you looking for? When you say is

972
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: there anything? Are you looking for that higher than the five?

973
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,919
Speaker 1: Or you wouldn't have if they offered you one for five,

974
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: you wouldn't have stayed.

975
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 3: I would have. I would have stayed in Seattle. But

976
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,839
Speaker 3: why if they're both veat minimum? Would you have left

977
00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 3: Seattle if they're both the same, because first of all,

978
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: both offers our dog shit, I would have loved it.

979
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: Dude, we got an elite linebacker on this motherfucker.

980
00:43:57,520 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: He's just like But I wouldn't have to leave because

981
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 3: my ego would have been like hej First of all,

982
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 3: what you're gonna give Seattle is the miraculously you're going

983
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 3: to be on the field a lot, and the leadership

984
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 3: that I bring in that locker room, the presence that

985
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,160
Speaker 3: I bring. They would have gotten millions out of me.

986
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 3: And so I'm not gonna give this organization another year

987
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,560
Speaker 3: of this. I'd rather just leave and start over and

988
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:25,800
Speaker 3: bless with another organization. What I bring to the table

989
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 3: so the hell would coming back for Vetmnium? I just

990
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: leave and go do it somewhere else. I got you,

991
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 3: And so, yeah, do you feel you're obviously very passionate.

992
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:39,399
Speaker 3: I fucking love it. It's juicing me up right now, dud.

993
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you feel established enough obviously to

994
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: say those things? But you also know this, knowing how

995
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: many of your teammates have you had your back? Because

996
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: Bobby was out there probably every week saying something you

997
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,000
Speaker 1: get allude to the same passion that he had, like

998
00:44:56,120 --> 00:44:59,279
Speaker 1: you're you're shining like through him. Yeah. Uh, do you

999
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: feel kind of of that respect was all your teammates

1000
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: that you have in Seattle?

1001
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 3: I feel complete respect for my teammates, complete respect from

1002
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 3: the fans, and everybody had my back, Like I literally

1003
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: got tweeted every day from fans whys and kJ signed?

1004
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: They would take the Seahawks Toime kJ at Pete Carroll,

1005
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:17,480
Speaker 3: what are we doing here? Whys and kJ sign bring

1006
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,840
Speaker 3: them back? And that was literally all off season. And

1007
00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 3: so I felt that love from the people because I

1008
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: gave the city everything I had. Yeah, I gave these

1009
00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 3: people every ounce in my body. And some stuff just

1010
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:35,960
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense, like what organizational organization wise, like how

1011
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: and why do you let me leave the building when

1012
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 3: I'm willing to take a lesser role, when I'm willing

1013
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:47,719
Speaker 3: to still give you all that I got?

1014
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:49,319
Speaker 1: Like why? Right?

1015
00:45:49,800 --> 00:45:52,840
Speaker 3: It don't make sense to me, especially when I extend

1016
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,759
Speaker 3: olive branch and saying can we work something out?

1017
00:45:57,520 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: So it was, you know, like ultimately ultimately you know,

1018
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 1: and I agree with you.

1019
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 3: I fucking agree with you, and uh, I think it's

1020
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 3: it's got to be the answer just has to be.

1021
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:15,239
Speaker 1: It's above everybody else in that building, right or no,

1022
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't figured that out yet. Like

1023
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 1: and I like Pete actually probably maybe wanted you back,

1024
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: maybe not, maybe not, but let's just say in this instance,

1025
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: like he might have, right, but like an owner of

1026
00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: GM or somebody is just you know, the whole cut

1027
00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:32,240
Speaker 1: we got to go in this direction, the whole cutthrow

1028
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: business part of it. Like it's like you know, with

1029
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: the Raiders, everybody knew that Gruden had fifty one percent

1030
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,839
Speaker 1: and may I had forty nine, so Grew would kind

1031
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:40,759
Speaker 1: of have the final say and stuff, and he had

1032
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 1: control of the roster. I don't know Pete's contracting situation,

1033
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: but maybe he was somebody who wanted you understood that

1034
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: whatever the GM was saying, and maybe it's like that's

1035
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: just the bullshit part of the business that happens, and

1036
00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: I get it. Ten years is a very long time. Oh,

1037
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: it's an anomaly, bro, Like the average career is three

1038
00:47:02,600 --> 00:47:04,799
Speaker 1: point three or something like that, three and a half years.

1039
00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 1: We'll just say three years. The average career is three years.

1040
00:47:08,080 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: We're talking about guys bouncing around. It's crazy when you

1041
00:47:12,360 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: get to play out your full contract as a rookie

1042
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 1: with a team and then resigned to that team again,

1043
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,800
Speaker 1: because if you play well enough, you're probably gonna go

1044
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 1: to the market, unless you're somebody who knows I'm gonna

1045
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 1: sign before I get to the market. I'm going to

1046
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: take a hometown discount because I want to be here.

1047
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:32,520
Speaker 1: Then you play how long was your second deal? Four years?

1048
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:36,520
Speaker 1: Four years, another four years, and then you sign another

1049
00:47:36,760 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 1: two year deal after you and and Wag's established that

1050
00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 1: you guys are the best duo in the league. Then

1051
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 1: you've resigned that two year deal. Then you get to

1052
00:47:46,320 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: the end of that two year deal and obviously, like

1053
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: you were saying, you signed that two year deal that

1054
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: year after you had just ended getting hurt. That kind

1055
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: of plays another favor, always hurting. Now we can offer them,

1056
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: you know, a more of a lower amount. Got me, man,

1057
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 1: they got me. They got you all you you were

1058
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 1: you upset about the two year you signed or you

1059
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 1: just kind of had nothing else to do? Had I had?

1060
00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:07,759
Speaker 3: I didn't me tell you about that one that the

1061
00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 3: first time I hit for agency. Nobody called me that

1062
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 3: time either after rookie at your rookie deal? Are you

1063
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 3: talking about four year deal? So I tore my knee,

1064
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,239
Speaker 3: and but I thought my career was my crew was

1065
00:48:18,280 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: in jeopardy a c l No. Bro. I was warming

1066
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 3: up against the Vikings preseason, and I was just shuffling.

1067
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 3: I just fell a tweaking my knee.

1068
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: I'm like, what the hell was that? I played the

1069
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: game and I got named right the next day. Bro.

1070
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 3: It was a big, big piece of cartilage that was

1071
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 3: missing from the inside of my knee. It said, like, Kendy,

1072
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,319
Speaker 3: you got to get surgery. So I'm bone on bone

1073
00:48:42,360 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 3: and this knee. And but what happened throughout the season

1074
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 3: was my knee kept swelling like I never it was.

1075
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,000
Speaker 3: The thing was like fat as fat as ever and

1076
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 3: I played with that all year and then all the

1077
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:56,680
Speaker 3: off season my knee was still swelling.

1078
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: Are you having to get like fluid removed all the time.

1079
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 3: Or again removed? Bro I did stem cells, I was

1080
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 3: doing Regena con PRP. Nothing was working.

1081
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:05,960
Speaker 1: Damn.

1082
00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:08,399
Speaker 3: Then by the grace of God, like it finally came

1083
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 3: around and I was able to keep playing. Don't give

1084
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 3: me any problems now. So that's what happened. That's what happened.

1085
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,040
Speaker 3: That their first ur agency, because everybody knew about my knee,

1086
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 3: and nobody called me that first time either.

1087
00:49:21,480 --> 00:49:23,959
Speaker 1: The first time, I meaning you just finished your eight years.

1088
00:49:24,080 --> 00:49:27,120
Speaker 1: I just finished yeah, yeah, yeah, going on your Nobody

1089
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:29,320
Speaker 1: had called you, and then Seattle came in late and

1090
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: offered you know, was able to get you. It was

1091
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 1: a third day of fre agency. Oh, third day of

1092
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:38,000
Speaker 1: free agency. I mean that's there's not nobody calls you

1093
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 1: for the first two days the way that called you.

1094
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: But you're still in the back half of the wave one.

1095
00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:44,240
Speaker 1: I was stressed. I was stressed.

1096
00:49:44,360 --> 00:49:46,840
Speaker 3: Why were you so stressed? Because I've never been in

1097
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: that position. I've never been in that position to where

1098
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 3: I feel like I wasn't a part of the team.

1099
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,560
Speaker 3: I wasn't I'm free, right, And then I like, I

1100
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 3: saw the other guys getting signed, you know, their first

1101
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 3: two waiver period, guys can you know, sign verbally, and

1102
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 3: it was happening. You know, nobody was calling me, Yeah,

1103
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 3: how do you feel? Like, what do you feel?

1104
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: Like? Those those times of like uncertainty and anxiety was

1105
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 1: teaching you because I hear you say those things, and

1106
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: we're obviously way different careers, Like you've you know, you've

1107
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: had not to shoot on the boy's career. I've loved

1108
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 1: my career and I love my story, but I'm saying

1109
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: I haven't been in your shoes to where I'm feeling anxiety.

1110
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: Like nobody called me either, comp and I'm like, damn,

1111
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:28,360
Speaker 1: how long was You're like day three and I'm like, fuck,

1112
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,919
Speaker 1: what the fuck did I did? Yeah?

1113
00:50:31,080 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 3: Yeah we got different Yeah we got different anxiety. Yeah

1114
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 3: this we got like different anxiety.

1115
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 1: The first time I went through it through free agency,

1116
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: teams were inquiring right before that, the you know, free

1117
00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,640
Speaker 1: agency opened right like the Bengals and Bills and teams

1118
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: were inquiring, so you're like excited. So when nothing's happening

1119
00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:48,320
Speaker 1: and you see guys getting signed, You're like man, when's

1120
00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:52,480
Speaker 1: my time coming? But speak about those anxieties and what

1121
00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: you learned in those times of like feeling shitty about yourself.

1122
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that like those I believe that

1123
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 3: was the first time my adult life that I really

1124
00:51:00,880 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 3: experienced it from the standpoint of, like I couldn't sleep

1125
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 3: good at night, I was having like these headaches and

1126
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,799
Speaker 3: like just like I was just just stressed all the time.

1127
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,200
Speaker 3: And I believe that I had to find avenues to

1128
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 3: release that. I had to find avenues to release that,

1129
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,600
Speaker 3: and for me, it was therapeutic for me. Was talking

1130
00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 3: to people. I talked to my mentor, Jonathan Rainey, I

1131
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:25,800
Speaker 3: talked to my wife, I talked to you know, I

1132
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 3: talked to my friends, just getting it out there how

1133
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 3: I was feeling, and just you know, just being comforted

1134
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:31,960
Speaker 3: by people. You know, that's you know, that's what God

1135
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 3: blesses some people, just to lean on them. And so

1136
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 3: for me, that was something that I had to tap

1137
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 3: into what's people around me so I could just keet

1138
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:43,400
Speaker 3: that ship out of my system. Yeah, yeah, man, it

1139
00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 3: was not easy. No, how long have you been how

1140
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: long were you a free agent?

1141
00:51:47,120 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: How long was so I've had my first time after

1142
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:54,720
Speaker 1: my five years was Washington. Washington started off free agency

1143
00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: talking to my agent saying, hey, we have a deal

1144
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 1: on the table for Will. He's not gonna want to accepted,

1145
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,520
Speaker 1: but just you know, let us know, keep us, keep

1146
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: us in the loop throughout free agency. That essentially meant

1147
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 1: and my agent was like, they're offering you a minimum

1148
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: deal and they're gonna wait and see what happens with you.

1149
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:16,400
Speaker 1: And so the Bengals, the Bills, maybe Chicago inquired in

1150
00:52:16,520 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: that during the first wave, but I wasn't. I My

1151
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 1: agent had already prepared me. He's like, hey, you're probably

1152
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: gonna be like a second wave guy blah blah blah here.

1153
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,839
Speaker 1: So it's going to shake out and lets Washington has

1154
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:28,800
Speaker 1: something for you that's above minimum to compete with. So

1155
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:31,959
Speaker 1: I had to stay patient through that. And then Preston Brown.

1156
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:36,480
Speaker 1: Do you remember Preston Brown? Linebacker? Yeah? Yeah, linebackers right, Oh, no,

1157
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: you're thinking Zach Brown. Preston Brown and Zach Brown were

1158
00:52:40,080 --> 00:52:42,880
Speaker 1: both on the Bills and led the league, and like tackles,

1159
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: Preston went on to sign a big deal with Cincinnati,

1160
00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: a bigger deal, like I want to say, it was

1161
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:53,279
Speaker 1: like sixteen million dollars when Preston signed that deal with

1162
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: Cincinnati and left the Bills. Within that same hour, the

1163
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: Bills called. So when the Bills call, I flew out

1164
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:02,720
Speaker 1: to the Bills and this is actually a crazy story.

1165
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,160
Speaker 1: I go out to the Buffalo and I'm doing all

1166
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: the MRIs and doing all this stuff. And it was

1167
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: like me and Kevin Minter out there and we're doing

1168
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:15,440
Speaker 1: all of our MRIs and I had had like a

1169
00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: spinal cord concussion. Sounds way worse than it actually is.

1170
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 1: Sounds way worse than it actually is, I swear, and

1171
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: you have like stinger issues, right, And so I was

1172
00:53:24,520 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 1: getna see spine MRI, and I got an MRI and

1173
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:29,719
Speaker 1: they saw they found a white mass in my head,

1174
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: in my sarahbellum. Yes. And so when I got done

1175
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 1: with that MRI, I go back to the facility with Buffalo.

1176
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:37,880
Speaker 1: Like I'm meeting with the coach. I'm sitting there with

1177
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: the line Bayer coach. We're going over all the defenses.

1178
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:43,839
Speaker 1: I met with a coach, Frasier, the decordinator. Awesome by

1179
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: the way, he seemed like he's a blast to play

1180
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: for it. But we're going over a lot of stuff

1181
00:53:48,239 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: like how you break down how I break down my

1182
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: notes to personnel each day? What am I breaking down

1183
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,600
Speaker 1: starting throughout the week? He's taking me through all that stuff,

1184
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: and I feel like I'm doing awesome. And so I'm

1185
00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 1: sitting in the meeting with the Linebeyer coach and we're

1186
00:54:00,560 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 1: going over everything and watch your tape. They come in,

1187
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,120
Speaker 1: the trainer comes in and goes, hey, can we borrow

1188
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:07,600
Speaker 1: Will for a minute. So they take me over to

1189
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 1: the training room and they're like they got my MRI

1190
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: up on the board and they're like, do you do

1191
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: you see what we're Do you see what we're looking

1192
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: at right now? Do you see that white mask in

1193
00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:20,919
Speaker 1: the bottom of your head? And I was like, yeah,

1194
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:24,480
Speaker 1: like what is that? And they're like, like, you know

1195
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:26,759
Speaker 1: you could tell he was like step on eggshells and

1196
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: he goes, you know, I'm you know, Will, we're not

1197
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,239
Speaker 1: talking about we're not talking about playing football anymore. We're

1198
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: talking about your life. And I was like what And

1199
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: they're like, we don't necessarily know, Like you see how

1200
00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:42,880
Speaker 1: the lines around here on isn't defined and in circular

1201
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,920
Speaker 1: and you can't like see a contrast here and there.

1202
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,279
Speaker 1: It's kind of like up in the air, like we

1203
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 1: think you could have a tumor, like a brain tumor.

1204
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 1: And I was like, you know, I kind of just

1205
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: sat there. The motion hadn't hit me yet or nothing

1206
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:55,920
Speaker 1: like that, and not until I call my dad and

1207
00:54:56,040 --> 00:54:58,560
Speaker 1: was talking to him about it. But he's like, you know,

1208
00:54:58,719 --> 00:55:02,279
Speaker 1: we can treat you out here. We can have you

1209
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,800
Speaker 1: go see our neurosurgeon out here, but we think you

1210
00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: should you probably would want to be around family, Like

1211
00:55:07,840 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: when you're going through this, I'm thinking it's not hitting

1212
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,480
Speaker 1: me in the head. I'm just like, yeah, I mean,

1213
00:55:12,880 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 1: you know, whatever worse. I'm like, you really think it's

1214
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: that serious. He's like, I don't know, because I'm not

1215
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: a neuro a surgeon, but I can't identify what this

1216
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:22,800
Speaker 1: is like I usually I usually have some kind of

1217
00:55:22,840 --> 00:55:25,840
Speaker 1: grasp and I'm like, fuck man, So I hit up Washington.

1218
00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: Washington was phenomenal to me. The doctor, the lead doctor there,

1219
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: doctor West. I called her and she was like, oh,

1220
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: right when you land, they flew me out. I shook

1221
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: the linebider Coach's hand and Buffalo and they're like, we

1222
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: gotta wait and see what happens, because it seemed like

1223
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 1: I was gonna walk out with some offer. Yeah, And

1224
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: they're like, we can't offer you. We got to see

1225
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,200
Speaker 1: what happens with this, which I understood. I fled back

1226
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,320
Speaker 1: to Washington that night. I go in and get a

1227
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 1: brain amory, the one where they put the they put

1228
00:55:52,040 --> 00:55:54,759
Speaker 1: like the fluid or the contrast in the IV so

1229
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: it can show all the color and everything kind of

1230
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: light up and the MRI neurologists whatever that stuff's called.

1231
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,160
Speaker 1: What's a radiologist a neuro radiologist. I go upstairs. As

1232
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:10,040
Speaker 1: I'm going upstairs, and I'm on the phone with doctor West.

1233
00:56:10,440 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: She's kind of talking to me about OST. She's like,

1234
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:13,320
Speaker 1: we don't know what it is, so like let's just

1235
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:15,279
Speaker 1: wait to see what it is, blah blah. I get

1236
00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,319
Speaker 1: off the phone with her, and then as I'm waiting

1237
00:56:17,320 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: to go upstairs to talk to this radiologist, the assistant comes, Hey,

1238
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 1: he's ready to talk to you. And I'm walking up

1239
00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 1: there and I'm outside of this dude's door, the radiologist door.

1240
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: He's on the phone with doctor West. He's like, Yeah,

1241
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:30,040
Speaker 1: I think we're looking at like a grade something like tumor.

1242
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: Like we're gonna have to probably get this removed immediately.

1243
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:36,239
Speaker 3: As I'm walking in the room. Yeah, and he goes, hey,

1244
00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 3: he's here, I'll call you back. He gets on, he

1245
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 3: gets off the phone.

1246
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: And I'm like, hey, Doc, what's something. And I was like,

1247
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to make this awkward. I just heard

1248
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: what you said. Like, let's just I was like, let's

1249
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:47,440
Speaker 1: just get right to it. And he goes, Will what

1250
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: you're looking at is he's you know a lot of

1251
00:56:50,239 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 1: verbiage of like a tumor and how it's cancers, and

1252
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: we would have we would need to get it removed

1253
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 1: and look at it in a lap to see how

1254
00:56:56,360 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: dangerous this could be for you. And I'm like, fuck man,

1255
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,040
Speaker 1: I'm just kind of sitting there kind of like doing

1256
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: what I'm doing now. I'm kind of just gazing, kind

1257
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:08,160
Speaker 1: of like shaking my head. And he was like, you know,

1258
00:57:08,680 --> 00:57:11,440
Speaker 1: if if we had to remove this, like everything should

1259
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 1: go well, like it's nothing that where you're like life

1260
00:57:14,280 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 1: is in jeopardy. We just got to get it removed,

1261
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: so your life isn't in jeopardy and he goes, well,

1262
00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: once we get it removed, you know, you could get

1263
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: what's called like some steel plate or something like that,

1264
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: and you can probably be back. I was like, hey, doc, man,

1265
00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,040
Speaker 1: if I got something wrong with my brain and I

1266
00:57:28,080 --> 00:57:29,320
Speaker 1: gotta get it removed. And I got to put a

1267
00:57:29,360 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: fucking titanium and amantium plate in my fucking head. Like

1268
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: it's not worth going back to the Oklahoma drill right away,

1269
00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, I'll be done playing football.

1270
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: It's all good, Like we'll figure this out. Just tell

1271
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: me what I need to know, and it's it's all

1272
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: good man. And he's like, all right, well, when you

1273
00:57:45,200 --> 00:57:47,120
Speaker 1: leave here, called doctor West. She'll talk to you about options.

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00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: I called doctor West. She was like, let's wait until

1275
00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 1: the neuro search and sees it tomorrow. We're sending it

1276
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: to all these people over in Europe, these people in

1277
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: the US blah, while they're taking good care of me.

1278
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,160
Speaker 1: Doctor West was taking good care of me as far

1279
00:57:56,200 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 1: as like distributing the MRI everywhere. And he's like, he

1280
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,720
Speaker 1: is a radio a radiologist, a neuro radiologist, so he

1281
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:04,000
Speaker 1: doesn't fully know the answer.

1282
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:07,160
Speaker 3: A neurosurgeon will. And so I'm basically up all night,

1283
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:07,960
Speaker 3: as you can assume.

1284
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: And I was like, I told my dad, and I

1285
00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: was like, don't tell mommy yet, because you know, I

1286
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 1: want to hurt all up in arms and everything else.

1287
00:58:14,680 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: I didn't tell my wife at the time, and the

1288
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 1: next morning the neurosearchon calls and he's like, well, I'm

1289
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: sure you've been stressing all stressing all night. This is

1290
00:58:23,440 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: not this is not a tumor. This is a cyst

1291
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: that I believe has been in your brain since birth,

1292
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,000
Speaker 1: since you're young. He goes, when I look back to

1293
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,880
Speaker 1: the old MRIs of your redskin days, I can see

1294
00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:37,280
Speaker 1: the white mass in there. They just they must not

1295
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,000
Speaker 1: have sought or caught it and obviously didn't bring into

1296
00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 1: your attention. And because I had an MRI history obviously,

1297
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, it's kind of crazy that

1298
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,680
Speaker 1: why they didn't, because you heard all this stuff that

1299
00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: happened with Trent Williams and his brain and everything else

1300
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,720
Speaker 1: his said, and so you're like, damn, how do they

1301
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: miss something like that? And he's like, it is it

1302
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 1: can be easy to miss. He's like, you know, he was,

1303
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,600
Speaker 1: I'm just a listened to it. I do. I am

1304
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:03,880
Speaker 1: surprised that they missed it, but it is something that

1305
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,960
Speaker 1: can be easily missed. And he goes, but I am

1306
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: very confident. He's like, obviously we can't look at your

1307
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,560
Speaker 1: brain the way it was when you were little, he said,

1308
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,480
Speaker 1: But this is something that could be pediatric, something that

1309
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 1: is in your head. We just got to monitor every

1310
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: six months and make sure it doesn't grow to like

1311
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: affect your balance and everything else. So that's my first

1312
00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: free agency story. A week later, not even a week,

1313
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: A couple of days go by, and that's when the

1314
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:32,400
Speaker 1: Titans called, call my agent, Hey, what happened with Will

1315
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: out in Buffalo? And they like something had to be

1316
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,760
Speaker 1: up because he didn't you know nothing, there's no there's

1317
00:59:36,760 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: no communication that's going on. There's no headlines about any

1318
00:59:39,680 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 1: rumors of him signing. And you know, Neil, he was

1319
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 1: just you know, being an agent, so I don't really

1320
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:46,200
Speaker 1: know what all he was saying. He's like, well, we'd

1321
00:59:46,240 --> 00:59:47,840
Speaker 1: like to fly him out here. I fly out here

1322
00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:51,480
Speaker 1: to Tennessee. I talk with them, we go over all

1323
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: the scans and everything else, and you know, Todd Torrissel,

1324
00:59:53,880 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 1: he was like, you know this, you'll be fine, Like

1325
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,440
Speaker 1: we gotta hopefully you don't leave the building type of thing.

1326
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: And my agent call Buffalo, and Buffalo is like, based

1327
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,800
Speaker 1: on what our doctors have been saying, we feel confident

1328
01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: on where we're at, So we're not going to offer

1329
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 1: him anything. Just keep us in a loop if this

1330
01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:10,240
Speaker 1: continues to go forward. They didn't offer me any more

1331
01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 1: than like a minimum, I believe. But I had signed

1332
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:14,520
Speaker 1: with the Titans and that was kind of my first

1333
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: That was like I was like a second wave beginning

1334
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:18,840
Speaker 1: a third wave at that time. Then I had my

1335
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: one year with the Titans. When I'm on with the Titans,

1336
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:23,440
Speaker 1: they draft for Shawn Evans in the first round and

1337
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:24,520
Speaker 1: the spot that I'm competing with.

1338
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Speaker 3: So I already, like you were saying earlier, I already

1339
01:00:26,680 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 3: knew a time. I already knew a time.

1340
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Speaker 1: Well, he was gonna play, no matter how good of

1341
01:00:30,840 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: a preseason or training camp I had, or ots and

1342
01:00:33,800 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: none of that stuff. But and then the next year

1343
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:40,040
Speaker 1: that was only one year deal. And then the next

1344
01:00:40,120 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: year is when we kind of started busting with the boys.

1345
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,560
Speaker 1: I was kind of contemplating, like this might be it

1346
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 1: because I didn't get a chance to play at all,

1347
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,440
Speaker 1: Like I didn't get a chance to put anything on

1348
01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,400
Speaker 1: tape as a linebacker. I was a backup and starter.

1349
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,400
Speaker 1: And you know, fortunately for like Rashawn and everybody else

1350
01:00:54,560 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: in my situation, you would need somebody to get hurt

1351
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 1: to get on the field, and nobody had gotten hurt

1352
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: that year. So the next year I knew that I

1353
01:01:00,920 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna be like I was gonna be a vet

1354
01:01:02,480 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 1: minimum guy. It'd be somebody who were if the team

1355
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,080
Speaker 1: knew of me, they already knew like what I was

1356
01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna bring to the table. So it was gonna be

1357
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: a one year minimum, and I was gonna skip OTA's

1358
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: in training camp and try to get on before week one.

1359
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: That's when I went with the Saints. I goes just

1360
01:01:15,600 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 1: there for a couple of coffee. I caught it ankle

1361
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,360
Speaker 1: sprain in the fourth preseason game. I got there forty

1362
01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: eight hours before the third game played in. It played solid.

1363
01:01:24,960 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: They moved me up to one base and they were

1364
01:01:26,680 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 1: going to continue to knock the rust off of me

1365
01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,760
Speaker 1: so I could get ready for Week one. Because their

1366
01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,800
Speaker 1: starter head went down and then I heard my ankle,

1367
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: so I already figured they waived me on an injury settlement.

1368
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:37,760
Speaker 1: I got that taken care of, and then that's when

1369
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: I signed with the Raiders in nineteen. Finished out that year,

1370
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,560
Speaker 1: got to play some games. I was on the Titans,

1371
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: and then back to the Raiders Spass year. So after

1372
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:47,520
Speaker 1: that first year of free agency, I kind of already

1373
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: knew where I would be labeled or what bucket I

1374
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: would be. And the only time I figured I might

1375
01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: be able to get something is after I played for

1376
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 1: the Raiders. But then that COVID year hit, and it

1377
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 1: seems like it messed up a lot of free agency,

1378
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: not that I would have got had a lot of

1379
01:02:00,400 --> 01:02:02,000
Speaker 1: money or anything about it. Like, if there's a chance

1380
01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: for me to not make minimum, this would be a

1381
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: one year case where I would probably That's when I came.

1382
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,880
Speaker 3: I came out of Kobe year, and the salary trunk

1383
01:02:08,920 --> 01:02:12,520
Speaker 3: which steals baffled me to this day because you remember

1384
01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:15,640
Speaker 3: when they announced the sealer cap went down. There announced

1385
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:18,960
Speaker 3: a big TV deal right that the NFL is going up,

1386
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:21,280
Speaker 3: So it's like, how does the salary cap go down

1387
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 3: but money more money comes about.

1388
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: And that's when we were negotiating as players against the league,

1389
01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: our new CBA. What did you vote? I voted. I

1390
01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 1: voted against going into like a lockout. I wanted us

1391
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: not to sign into the deal. Yeah, okay, yeah you

1392
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: want to know, Yes, good, I didn't want Yeah, we're

1393
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,720
Speaker 1: at the UH we're at the thing and and Shurm's

1394
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 1: talking and you've been around Sherm a lot. Were you

1395
01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: at that same Were you at the names of Miami.

1396
01:02:47,880 --> 01:02:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right when COVID happened, Like they was going on.

1397
01:02:51,480 --> 01:02:55,120
Speaker 3: The owners gave us a deadline during right after our meeting.

1398
01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, and COVID ultimately happened and kind of played it

1399
01:02:58,840 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: like just there's a lot of fear mongering going on.

1400
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,360
Speaker 1: And I'm sitting there trying to tell Sherm because Sharm's

1401
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: arguing the same thing for us, but we're like fifty

1402
01:03:05,960 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: to fifty with the players, and it's like, Bro, we're

1403
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,040
Speaker 1: arguing about the dumbes shit. They're creating this deadline just

1404
01:03:11,080 --> 01:03:12,320
Speaker 1: to make it seem like we got to make a

1405
01:03:12,360 --> 01:03:14,160
Speaker 1: decision right now. And Bro, what they were doing.

1406
01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 3: You saw like the narratives that like they were putting

1407
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 3: out there, like oh, there will be.

1408
01:03:18,840 --> 01:03:22,120
Speaker 1: No more marijuana, no more marijuana.

1409
01:03:21,720 --> 01:03:27,000
Speaker 3: Testing or failures, and guys would get more money. It

1410
01:03:27,080 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 3: was like the Nier thousand.

1411
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: They were saying, we will give guys one hundred thousand

1412
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: dollars and you know the majority of the NFL, those

1413
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:36,439
Speaker 1: guys who are in that three year average range. Young

1414
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 1: guys who are not around long. They're gonna take that

1415
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,200
Speaker 1: one hundred thousand dollars because I think that's what we

1416
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:41,640
Speaker 1: need this.

1417
01:03:42,080 --> 01:03:44,200
Speaker 3: And then what they fail to realize they're adding an

1418
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:48,720
Speaker 3: extra game, They're adding extra playoff team. Like, guys don't

1419
01:03:48,760 --> 01:03:51,680
Speaker 3: realize like the amount of volume that's going to be taken,

1420
01:03:51,840 --> 01:03:54,200
Speaker 3: like charis are going to be even more shortened because

1421
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 3: we're adding more more stuff to our to our bodies

1422
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,040
Speaker 3: and so bro, like guys like everybody signed yes.

1423
01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:05,920
Speaker 1: And you said really barely was it? It was like,

1424
01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: do you guys remember I Bro?

1425
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:09,120
Speaker 3: It was like.

1426
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:13,400
Speaker 1: It was close. It was like some guys didn't vote,

1427
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,360
Speaker 1: so yeah, a lot of guys that yeah, some guys

1428
01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:17,720
Speaker 1: didn't vote, which is a big, a nice handful. But

1429
01:04:17,840 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 1: it was like, I want to say, maybe three hundred

1430
01:04:19,440 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 1: votes or I might be budgeting. It was that close.

1431
01:04:21,760 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: But it was that close. Have fun over those in

1432
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:35,680
Speaker 1: the NFLPA rooms. To me, not a lot was getting

1433
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,560
Speaker 1: done now. It wanted to get done, but we have

1434
01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:40,200
Speaker 1: a lot. We have a lot of player like yeah,

1435
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: go ahead.

1436
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 3: So many voices, it's like so many opinions, this guy's

1437
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 3: think this. There's so many guys making you know, fifteen

1438
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 3: plus million dollars, then you got the guys making a

1439
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:52,680
Speaker 3: million dollars, just like this is how I feel, but

1440
01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:55,040
Speaker 3: this is what this is how you should feel. And

1441
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 3: it's it's like it's just a lot of guys, a

1442
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 3: lot of guys trying to talk in the big room.

1443
01:04:59,000 --> 01:05:00,680
Speaker 1: Then you break up in the my crow rooms, and

1444
01:05:00,720 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 1: that's where that's where, like, if I had something to say,

1445
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,720
Speaker 1: I will wait till micro room, because in the big rooms,

1446
01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: like everyone's trying to peacock a little bit. Some guys

1447
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,360
Speaker 1: are talking to their own personal matters, Like some dudes

1448
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: are wanting to call out people that are on the

1449
01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,360
Speaker 1: board because hey, that was wild too that all was

1450
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 1: going down. But some people want to call out dudes

1451
01:05:16,520 --> 01:05:18,120
Speaker 1: on the board and check them and kind of look like,

1452
01:05:18,640 --> 01:05:20,600
Speaker 1: you know, I remember when Pouncey was calling.

1453
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 3: Out uh Don Davis, Ye, Don Davis. But there's just

1454
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:29,800
Speaker 3: a lot of likes. It's hard to just dive into.

1455
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,440
Speaker 1: I don't really remember what he'll say because a lot

1456
01:05:31,480 --> 01:05:33,600
Speaker 1: of stuff's moving so fast. But I remember sitting back

1457
01:05:33,680 --> 01:05:36,400
Speaker 1: being like this is so fucking stupid because we're not

1458
01:05:36,560 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 1: talking about actual matters that we need to be talking about,

1459
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,440
Speaker 1: Like to me, Saran would say a lot of good stuff,

1460
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:44,440
Speaker 1: and Sheran would be somebody I would try and like

1461
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:47,880
Speaker 1: introduce myself to and talk to around in the hallways

1462
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:50,840
Speaker 1: because he's like he's like he's very rational, Like he's

1463
01:05:50,840 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: a very smart dude. He's like in the agents and

1464
01:05:54,560 --> 01:05:57,200
Speaker 1: negotiates his own deals. I don't know how great it

1465
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: actually is for him compared to what an age would do,

1466
01:05:59,240 --> 01:06:03,520
Speaker 1: but he's a very smart cat who talks calmly, tries

1467
01:06:03,600 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 1: not to yell, and a lot of guys are in

1468
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:08,880
Speaker 1: there trying to fucking stand up and yell, and it's

1469
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,520
Speaker 1: just like so dumb. And then my ass, we're in

1470
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: the micro stuff on my boys, we gotta storm the

1471
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 1: fucking beach man. We gotta hold off because we got

1472
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,560
Speaker 1: long snappers or guys are on practice squad that are there,

1473
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: not that they shouldn't be there, because I was a

1474
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:24,120
Speaker 1: peace squad guy and I was somebody who rallied for like,

1475
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,240
Speaker 1: you know, we got to make sure practice squad years

1476
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 1: can count for guys eventually, but they were like peace

1477
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:32,640
Speaker 1: squad guys are was like, man, I'm gonna vote, I'm

1478
01:06:32,680 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: gonna vote. Agreed, to the deal because man, I need

1479
01:06:35,040 --> 01:06:38,280
Speaker 1: a job, and it's like, Bro, it's way bigger that.

1480
01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 1: It's bigger than you, Bro, bigger than that. And but

1481
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,440
Speaker 1: every every every CBA, like I hear the same stories.

1482
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:47,400
Speaker 3: There's just so many voices, so many opinions, and it's

1483
01:06:47,520 --> 01:06:49,960
Speaker 3: just we just end up falling for it and the

1484
01:06:50,040 --> 01:06:51,439
Speaker 3: owners end up winning every time.

1485
01:06:51,560 --> 01:06:54,240
Speaker 1: To me, the issue is when we have our NFLPA

1486
01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:58,120
Speaker 1: meetings during the season, guys don't necessarily care to be

1487
01:06:58,200 --> 01:07:02,000
Speaker 1: there because it's after practice. The NFLPA reps are there,

1488
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,480
Speaker 1: they're going through stuff. A lot of guys don't give

1489
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:06,080
Speaker 1: a shit. They want to know about their mad In check,

1490
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:09,400
Speaker 1: the document. Yeah, are we gonna get our ten thousand

1491
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:12,000
Speaker 1: dollars matt In check or something like that. And guys

1492
01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:13,960
Speaker 1: are ready because you've had a long day at the

1493
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:16,920
Speaker 1: office all day long. It's probably like five PM, and

1494
01:07:17,040 --> 01:07:19,360
Speaker 1: guys are like ready to go. And it's usually, you know,

1495
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 1: you have those I don't know how often they are,

1496
01:07:21,360 --> 01:07:23,200
Speaker 1: but I know usually by the time you have them

1497
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:25,280
Speaker 1: and they're important, it's dark outside by five pm, so

1498
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:27,400
Speaker 1: it's later in the year and guys are just ready

1499
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:29,000
Speaker 1: to go, and then all of a sudden, we have

1500
01:07:29,080 --> 01:07:31,200
Speaker 1: our PA meetings, which I think all guys need to

1501
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 1: go to because there's a lot of good information there

1502
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: and you ask questions. You get in these micro groups,

1503
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,680
Speaker 1: but all of a sudden, everyone cares when you go

1504
01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: to the meeting.

1505
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's just like the wild wild West when

1506
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 3: everybody gets in those rooms.

1507
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 1: I think it's good learning. And we're talking about this

1508
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,919
Speaker 1: one specific situation because there's a deadline. Let's just say

1509
01:07:54,440 --> 01:07:56,400
Speaker 1: we're all meeting there on March tenth, and say the

1510
01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,440
Speaker 1: deadline is March thirteenth. So votes are happening as we

1511
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:02,440
Speaker 1: are in meeting room, and there were already like fifty

1512
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:05,800
Speaker 1: percent of the votes were already had happened before we're

1513
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:08,640
Speaker 1: doing the NFLPA meetings, and so there's a lot of

1514
01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 1: stuff that can get huge. There's a couple of young

1515
01:08:10,320 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 1: guys that are saying there with me that hey, comp

1516
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,160
Speaker 1: I fucked up, man, Like I'll vote my vote bak.

1517
01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 3: A lot of guys wanted to take their vote back,

1518
01:08:15,400 --> 01:08:16,760
Speaker 3: a lot of yes, a lot of guys wanted to

1519
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:17,479
Speaker 3: redo their vote.

1520
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: But it's because the owners, which is it is what

1521
01:08:20,520 --> 01:08:22,800
Speaker 1: it is. There's thirty two owners and there's you know,

1522
01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: over one thousand, two thousand players, right, and the owners

1523
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,960
Speaker 1: are billionaires. There are people who understand negotiating. They're understand people.

1524
01:08:29,960 --> 01:08:33,280
Speaker 1: They will understand leverage to the to the most elite level.

1525
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: And we don't like players, don't. We don't at all.

1526
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,280
Speaker 1: We're players. We think we know.

1527
01:08:38,880 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 3: And once you get talking lockout and there won't be

1528
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 3: a season, guys start getting a little shaky, like oh fuck,

1529
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,920
Speaker 3: like what's the line where I signed? And so they

1530
01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 3: know like guys are on you know, minimum contracts, So

1531
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,840
Speaker 3: guys need their jobs, right, and so they understand the

1532
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 3: power of patients.

1533
01:08:56,040 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 1: Right, and the coaches already established during this time, coaches

1534
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: are kind of, hey, if you guys don't show up,

1535
01:09:03,880 --> 01:09:06,320
Speaker 1: you feed into those young guys or depth players that

1536
01:09:06,479 --> 01:09:09,080
Speaker 1: might not have a job. Right. So it's like, hey,

1537
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:10,880
Speaker 1: if so and so showing up, you know we're gonna

1538
01:09:10,920 --> 01:09:13,960
Speaker 1: roll with whoever does come. And so young guys who

1539
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:15,760
Speaker 1: are coming in the league, like I would probably say

1540
01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,640
Speaker 1: my rookie year, second year self, I'm like, man, I

1541
01:09:18,680 --> 01:09:21,360
Speaker 1: want to be in the league. You're like, you don't

1542
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:23,160
Speaker 1: know what to do? Do I listen to a vet

1543
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: like kJ My coach is kind of in my ear

1544
01:09:25,040 --> 01:09:27,760
Speaker 1: saying you know, if you're not here, that's not a

1545
01:09:27,800 --> 01:09:30,679
Speaker 1: good look for you. And you're like, it's my career

1546
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,160
Speaker 1: about to be over with if I don't show up

1547
01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:34,200
Speaker 1: and I get with these guys, because if I go

1548
01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,320
Speaker 1: with the fellas, if I go with the boys, and

1549
01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: my job might be gone. Like am I taking care

1550
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:42,280
Speaker 1: of that? Answer ultimately is like no. So it's just

1551
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:44,960
Speaker 1: I am pro player, and like the scope of it

1552
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: is big, and it's like there will be Like I

1553
01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: remember when I was saying the whole you know, we

1554
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 1: need to storm the beach and stuff like that, and somebody,

1555
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: some kid was like, you know, we got certain jobs.

1556
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:57,479
Speaker 1: I was like, bro, there will be casualties, but that

1557
01:09:57,720 --> 01:10:00,280
Speaker 1: but that's the truth. That is the truth. So like

1558
01:10:00,360 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 1: that's just like, bro, there there there's gonna be sacrifice

1559
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: had like and no, and.

1560
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:06,680
Speaker 3: Who and who's willing to say I don't want to

1561
01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:08,920
Speaker 3: be that guy, right exactly, and so willing to do

1562
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 3: that right And I don't.

1563
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: Mind that dude saying that. I understand that's history and

1564
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:15,800
Speaker 1: everything else. It's just these are the facts or what's

1565
01:10:15,840 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 1: gonna happen if we go throughout and do this. I

1566
01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: was about it because I'm in the back end and

1567
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 1: everything else, So I have my own version. You said

1568
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,160
Speaker 1: that the owners always win. Where do you think have

1569
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:28,720
Speaker 1: there been where the players have one?

1570
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:34,640
Speaker 3: Yes, Well, let's let's understand, like we're we're winning too.

1571
01:10:35,520 --> 01:10:38,479
Speaker 3: We're winning too, And it's just the sense of like

1572
01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:41,280
Speaker 3: the revenue split, Like the revenue split to my my

1573
01:10:41,360 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 3: not fifty one forty nine. I person believe we should

1574
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,599
Speaker 3: be fifty fifty partners, Like why are we not fifty

1575
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 3: fifty partners? And obviously the salary, the salary goes up

1576
01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,160
Speaker 3: every year. We winning in that sense, and we won

1577
01:10:54,479 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 3: with with the like the padded prices. Like remember back

1578
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:02,120
Speaker 3: in the day, it was like two days, three days banging.

1579
01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,120
Speaker 3: I wasn't there then, but I heard stories. And so

1580
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,120
Speaker 3: we're winning. But I believe that we can get so

1581
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 3: much more power. Like the franchise tag. I believe that

1582
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 3: just needs to get rid of that because it's the

1583
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,800
Speaker 3: press is the market, if that makes sense, Like it's

1584
01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 3: a press the market. Get rid of the franchise tag,

1585
01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:20,280
Speaker 3: and there's some other things that we can win at.

1586
01:11:20,800 --> 01:11:23,040
Speaker 3: So I feel like we're equal, you know, on the

1587
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:24,720
Speaker 3: same plan field as owners.

1588
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 1: Or at least do away with the other tags that

1589
01:11:26,920 --> 01:11:29,400
Speaker 1: come after the franchise tag, Like there's a transitional tag,

1590
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,040
Speaker 1: there's like you can be tagged what a couple of times.

1591
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:34,960
Speaker 3: Even for like the undrafted free agents. The what's the

1592
01:11:35,080 --> 01:11:40,559
Speaker 3: thing when they get with the draft, when they get

1593
01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,720
Speaker 3: tender you, Oh, yeah, I was, yeah, I was a

1594
01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 3: restricted free agent. Brother, I don't even understand why the

1595
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:49,760
Speaker 3: tender exists. Can you slain the tender? Like it's like, oh,

1596
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:51,040
Speaker 3: for undrafted guys.

1597
01:11:51,200 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, So when I was undrafted, you sign a one

1598
01:11:54,000 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: year or a three year deal. You don't sign a

1599
01:11:56,439 --> 01:11:58,560
Speaker 1: four year like all the other rookies. To get to

1600
01:11:58,640 --> 01:12:02,719
Speaker 1: free agency, you need four seasons. You need four seasons

1601
01:12:02,800 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 1: under your belt to get the free agency. So when

1602
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:09,080
Speaker 1: your deal is up as a like an undrafted guy,

1603
01:12:09,200 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 1: it's only three years. So that fourth year they have

1604
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:15,360
Speaker 1: the ability to restrict you in so you're gonna be

1605
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:17,720
Speaker 1: a free agent. But you're a restricted free agent. Now

1606
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,559
Speaker 1: what happens is you either get labeled first round tender,

1607
01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 1: a second round tender, or a low round tender a

1608
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 1: first round tender. The money's obviously higher. And if I

1609
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,560
Speaker 1: first round tender, kJ Wright and I'm the raiders. I

1610
01:12:30,600 --> 01:12:32,400
Speaker 1: would have to come correct with at least a first

1611
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:34,720
Speaker 1: round draft pick to trade to negotiate and get you.

1612
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:36,760
Speaker 1: If it's a second round, I need to have at

1613
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:40,439
Speaker 1: least a second round pick to negotiate with kJ. I

1614
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:42,920
Speaker 1: believe that's what it is. It's something like that. A

1615
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,600
Speaker 1: low round goes on the round you were drafted, so

1616
01:12:45,800 --> 01:12:47,600
Speaker 1: I got low round tender, so I'm go unadrafted. I

1617
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,200
Speaker 1: can be negotiating with other teams, but the team has

1618
01:12:51,240 --> 01:12:53,280
Speaker 1: the right of first refusal and they got to give

1619
01:12:53,360 --> 01:12:55,560
Speaker 1: up that draft pick to get you, right, they have

1620
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:58,080
Speaker 1: to give up something to get you, so they kind

1621
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: of lock you in. Now, what sucked for me is

1622
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:02,559
Speaker 1: all on Peace Squad for the first year, so even

1623
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,479
Speaker 1: though it counts as a credited season, it's not an

1624
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:07,960
Speaker 1: accrude season. The difference is accredited season is three games

1625
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:12,840
Speaker 1: and an accrude season is eight or seven on a

1626
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:14,800
Speaker 1: crude season is seven or eight games, Alex to look

1627
01:13:14,840 --> 01:13:16,640
Speaker 1: that up, Like, well, we continue to talk about it,

1628
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,280
Speaker 1: but when I was a Peace Squad player, my first

1629
01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 1: year gets counted as a credited year towards benefits, but

1630
01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 1: it doesn't get counted as an accrude season. Towards free agency.

1631
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,320
Speaker 1: So by the time my contract was up with the

1632
01:13:28,439 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 1: Redskins that was three years. Only two were accrued. The

1633
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,559
Speaker 1: third one was credited because my I was practice squad.

1634
01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: So my fourth year was an exclusive rights free agent,

1635
01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:42,080
Speaker 1: meaning no one gets to deal with you, and they

1636
01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:44,000
Speaker 1: get to offer you, and I essentially have to accept

1637
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:46,680
Speaker 1: whatever they offer. So it's a one year minimum. So

1638
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: they gave me a one year minimum. You know the

1639
01:13:49,439 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 1: social media all we signed will con to. Everybody was

1640
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,680
Speaker 1: like yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's like, bro, it's like

1641
01:13:54,760 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: a one year six deal. And at this point, I

1642
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: think I had just started my ten games. The next year,

1643
01:14:00,040 --> 01:14:01,920
Speaker 1: I was captain and starters. So I'm playing on a

1644
01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: one year, six hundred thousand dollars deal. Once exclusive rights

1645
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 1: is up. That's my third recruit season. Now, going into

1646
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,040
Speaker 1: my fifth year, I'm a restricted free agent. You're not

1647
01:14:12,120 --> 01:14:14,360
Speaker 1: even unrestricted, not even unrestricted yet. I got to go

1648
01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,600
Speaker 1: through exclusive, so then restricted, and then I get to unrestricted.

1649
01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,519
Speaker 1: There it goes. So then I was restricted, they low

1650
01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,599
Speaker 1: round tender me. I play out that year and then

1651
01:14:22,680 --> 01:14:25,479
Speaker 1: I was unrestricted. You're getting older and at that point,

1652
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: but I had my unrestricted free agency I was like

1653
01:14:28,400 --> 01:14:30,080
Speaker 1: twenty seven. I believe when I came to the tight

1654
01:14:30,120 --> 01:14:32,280
Speaker 1: it's twenty seven to twenty eight years old. I was

1655
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: turning twenty something like that, but still still doing it man,

1656
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:38,479
Speaker 1: at a high level. Yeah, they were trying to hold

1657
01:14:38,520 --> 01:14:46,360
Speaker 1: me back, right, got to get your albums out to right, right.

1658
01:14:46,760 --> 01:14:48,560
Speaker 1: And then coming into the league at twenty three, I

1659
01:14:48,680 --> 01:14:50,519
Speaker 1: was like a fifth year senior coming into the league,

1660
01:14:50,520 --> 01:14:54,360
Speaker 1: like an older guy anyway, coming into the league. So yeah,

1661
01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:55,960
Speaker 1: but they get all the mears on you.

1662
01:14:56,080 --> 01:14:58,360
Speaker 3: Then we signed, we signed ten year contracts. I still

1663
01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:01,400
Speaker 3: understand why the hill is so long. That's so man,

1664
01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:04,040
Speaker 3: we got we got a lot of work to do,

1665
01:15:04,120 --> 01:15:06,000
Speaker 3: and we came. We've came a long way. Like you

1666
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 3: imagine where they were like back in the day, Like

1667
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 3: they couldn't even hit free agency like back in the day,

1668
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 3: like the teams had your rights your whole career. So

1669
01:15:14,040 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 3: we definitely made progress over the years, but we can

1670
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 3: still we can still do way more.

1671
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, we've we have came a long way, definitely not

1672
01:15:20,520 --> 01:15:22,400
Speaker 1: neglecting that. But there are a lot of things like

1673
01:15:22,439 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 1: the last CBA, we screwed ourselves because we wanted the

1674
01:15:26,120 --> 01:15:28,960
Speaker 1: vet players to we raise the level of the minimum

1675
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: for them, which in turn we thought was better, but

1676
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 1: it kind of fucked that middle You had the you

1677
01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 1: had the guys just on the big deals, and then

1678
01:15:36,479 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 1: that middle class, uh was getting very squeezed because it

1679
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,240
Speaker 1: wasn't forced out the league. Right, you get forced out

1680
01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:44,680
Speaker 1: the league because you can just get a young guy

1681
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:46,840
Speaker 1: if I'm a little bit better than a young guy.

1682
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,439
Speaker 1: Let's say Jack comes in the league as a draft pick,

1683
01:15:49,479 --> 01:15:51,120
Speaker 1: as a seventh round pick, right, or you have a

1684
01:15:51,160 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: seventh round pick, my bad, no disrespect, brother, you have

1685
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 1: a draft pick.

1686
01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:58,599
Speaker 3: Right that you can use, And I'm a one year

1687
01:15:58,760 --> 01:16:00,280
Speaker 3: I'm now a veteran, so you have to me a

1688
01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 3: VET minimum, which we all get now.

1689
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,720
Speaker 1: So my one year VET minimum this year is like

1690
01:16:03,760 --> 01:16:06,439
Speaker 1: one year close to a million dollars nine hundred and

1691
01:16:06,439 --> 01:16:08,560
Speaker 1: some thousand. So if I know I'm gonna be a

1692
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,320
Speaker 1: one year VET, the coaches might love me. They know

1693
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,080
Speaker 1: what I bring to the table, the leadership, all the

1694
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 1: intangible stuff. Right. But if you're a GM and you're

1695
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,880
Speaker 1: the guy who gets to pick in the draft and

1696
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:19,439
Speaker 1: build your team for the future, I know you all

1697
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:20,960
Speaker 1: love Will and he might be a little bit better

1698
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,360
Speaker 1: than this low round pick. But this low round pick

1699
01:16:23,439 --> 01:16:25,000
Speaker 1: is going to be four hundred thousand dollars four five

1700
01:16:25,080 --> 01:16:28,040
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars. So all that matters is I'm showing

1701
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,200
Speaker 1: the owner the bottom line and we might take a

1702
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 1: little dip in him as a player. But if Will's

1703
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:35,479
Speaker 1: not going to be a starter, he's going to be

1704
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,760
Speaker 1: a death player. We can get a rookie. Yeah, we

1705
01:16:37,760 --> 01:16:39,880
Speaker 1: can get a rookie. You play special teams and it's

1706
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,479
Speaker 1: on you guys to develop him. You guys can't develop him.

1707
01:16:42,760 --> 01:16:44,120
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna cover my ass and you guys

1708
01:16:44,120 --> 01:16:47,320
Speaker 1: will probably get fired. But that's ultimately how that shit

1709
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:47,960
Speaker 1: works too.

1710
01:16:48,720 --> 01:16:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, which is nuts and so and what they did

1711
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 3: also was they gave a lot of the money to

1712
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,040
Speaker 3: the quarterbacks. We thought in this new deal like always

1713
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,000
Speaker 3: gonna help out the vets. They just gave all this

1714
01:16:58,040 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 3: shit to the quarterback, right, those top positions that you need,

1715
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,640
Speaker 3: they just they just paid them in their markets. They

1716
01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,840
Speaker 3: markets really increase. So with the middle guys, it was

1717
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 3: a beast. And so if you win, like the elite

1718
01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 3: of the league, right, and.

1719
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:13,000
Speaker 1: Quarterbacks are in a category of their own because they

1720
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,599
Speaker 1: negotiate kind of percentages of like what the cap can be, right,

1721
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:18,120
Speaker 1: mm hmm, So, like I know kirk, Kirk was trying

1722
01:17:18,120 --> 01:17:20,559
Speaker 1: to change the narrative of being like getting guaranteed deals

1723
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 1: taking less of the top end the show. Hey, we

1724
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:25,560
Speaker 1: can get guaranteed deals, full guaranteed, fully guaranteed, but you

1725
01:17:25,720 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 1: need guys to guys like, why don't we have guarantee contracts.

1726
01:17:28,520 --> 01:17:30,680
Speaker 1: It's like it's not in the NBA's CBA to have

1727
01:17:30,720 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 1: guaranteed contracts. The players just set that standard. So you

1728
01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:37,240
Speaker 1: need guys. Say you get an offered to do five

1729
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:40,640
Speaker 1: years one hundred million dollars, but eighty of it's guaranteed,

1730
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,760
Speaker 1: you would have to be willing to go like four

1731
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:48,920
Speaker 1: years sixty million dollars fully guaranteed, guaranteed. The guys want

1732
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,160
Speaker 1: that extra boost to get up to one hundred, Which

1733
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,679
Speaker 1: you can't hate them because we're all playing the selfish

1734
01:17:53,720 --> 01:17:56,080
Speaker 1: game anyway. But if we're truly wanting the greater good

1735
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,640
Speaker 1: for what the players are gonna do, those are the

1736
01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:00,720
Speaker 1: standards you kind of have to set. Not too many

1737
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:03,120
Speaker 1: people got their mindset. Not too many people got that mindset.

1738
01:18:03,160 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: Probably nobody got that mindset.

1739
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 3: Like it's like in this league man, like this, our

1740
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:10,720
Speaker 3: window is so short, and it's like not too many

1741
01:18:10,760 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 3: guys that willn't be that sacrificial lamp because I gotta

1742
01:18:13,880 --> 01:18:14,560
Speaker 3: I gotta get it.

1743
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,000
Speaker 1: I got a family to feed, right, and so I

1744
01:18:17,400 --> 01:18:17,720
Speaker 1: get it.

1745
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 3: But if we really want to see true change, like

1746
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:23,680
Speaker 3: guys gotta be able to do certain stuff like that.

1747
01:18:24,120 --> 01:18:33,040
Speaker 1: Be out in front. But right, but that kind of

1748
01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 1: plays against us in the same breath, because that is

1749
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:38,519
Speaker 1: why we don't necessarily get up to the guaranteed contracts,

1750
01:18:38,680 --> 01:18:42,120
Speaker 1: because we are a injury rate, like we are the

1751
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:47,720
Speaker 1: most injured physical, violent sport. So that does play against us,

1752
01:18:47,760 --> 01:18:49,880
Speaker 1: like a baseball player and everything else. You kind of

1753
01:18:50,000 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 1: it's kind of you understand the layout of somebody's future. Yeah,

1754
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 1: I'm not sure what happened to Earl.

1755
01:18:57,200 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 3: Well, most guys with Earl, like most guys don't want

1756
01:19:00,200 --> 01:19:02,479
Speaker 3: to go into that last year of their deal, Like

1757
01:19:02,600 --> 01:19:05,800
Speaker 3: y'alls want to get paid beforehand. So you got that,

1758
01:19:06,000 --> 01:19:09,280
Speaker 3: you know, you got that that security, and so Earl,

1759
01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:12,800
Speaker 3: the Seahawks didn't pay Earl, you know, going to this

1760
01:19:12,920 --> 01:19:16,360
Speaker 3: last year and so during his contract year that's when

1761
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:17,439
Speaker 3: he that's when he got hurt.

1762
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:23,080
Speaker 1: And so sorry, it's the business. We won.

1763
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,560
Speaker 3: Essentially we won. And yeah, that's when he went to

1764
01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:29,360
Speaker 3: the Ravens after that. And so if you can man

1765
01:19:29,479 --> 01:19:31,840
Speaker 3: get that deal done, but mostly guys don't got that

1766
01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 3: kind of power, like, oh, I'm going to get this done,

1767
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 3: like only a select few can actually do that.

1768
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,720
Speaker 1: And so he was pissed. But that's the risk of

1769
01:19:40,200 --> 01:19:42,720
Speaker 1: betting or yourself if you don't get it done. If

1770
01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:44,880
Speaker 1: you get it done early, if Earl would have done

1771
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:49,559
Speaker 1: it early, you're taking that hometown discount no matter what happens,

1772
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:52,120
Speaker 1: because you're not going to the market, do you know

1773
01:19:52,200 --> 01:19:53,920
Speaker 1: what I'm saying? Yes and no.

1774
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:59,519
Speaker 3: For example, what Bobby did Bobby Bobby signed a year before.

1775
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:02,240
Speaker 3: Bobby reset the market.

1776
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:06,080
Speaker 1: Right because he is the he's like, yeah, the best

1777
01:20:06,160 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 1: linebacker in the league. He gets to reset the market.

1778
01:20:08,720 --> 01:20:10,800
Speaker 1: But on the other end of the table, they have

1779
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 1: a better grasp of knowing where that market could be.

1780
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 3: If he would have waited to get to Old Yeah,

1781
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,760
Speaker 3: because after Bobby signed, then the Fred Warners came and

1782
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 3: the Darius Leonards.

1783
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:27,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but this was the legion of boom era,

1784
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,880
Speaker 1: which you can talk about. But there's so many guys

1785
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: like I'm sure. He was in the middle of a deal.

1786
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,560
Speaker 3: You got Bobby Wagner under contract, you got Sure, you

1787
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:35,519
Speaker 3: got Cam, you got all these dudes.

1788
01:20:35,640 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: You I mean yeah, this yeah, this was later. This

1789
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:41,160
Speaker 1: was later that. There may have been Earl's eighth year.

1790
01:20:41,560 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: It was like later on.

1791
01:20:42,720 --> 01:20:45,639
Speaker 3: It wasn't his first go round. Yeah, his first go round.

1792
01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,920
Speaker 3: I believe he got paid a year before. And all

1793
01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:50,960
Speaker 3: good things come to an end. Things can't have the

1794
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 3: kJ right on his rookie deal forever. You can't have

1795
01:20:53,200 --> 01:20:55,439
Speaker 3: all these guys on their deals, because it's not for

1796
01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,640
Speaker 3: everybody to get paid and get what they're worth and

1797
01:20:57,640 --> 01:20:58,200
Speaker 3: their value.

1798
01:20:58,560 --> 01:21:01,040
Speaker 1: But talk about your legion of dude, I don't even

1799
01:21:01,080 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: know what specifically we can talk about how you guys

1800
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:05,480
Speaker 1: should have handled the ball to Marshall.

1801
01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 3: Lynch Man, I was surrounded by some freaking superstars, but

1802
01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:11,799
Speaker 3: I did I didn't even realize, like these my boys,

1803
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 3: like you know, Cam, you know, these the homies, like

1804
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:15,360
Speaker 3: we came.

1805
01:21:15,240 --> 01:21:17,400
Speaker 1: In here together. But when you like look at it,

1806
01:21:17,560 --> 01:21:20,640
Speaker 1: like we were like the Beatles.

1807
01:21:25,000 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 3: Saying that, and it's like when we stepped on the field,

1808
01:21:28,600 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 3: it's like you could like lowk you see, like guys

1809
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 3: who like intimidated to play against US. Guys knew, like

1810
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,120
Speaker 3: y'all don't, they don't stand a chance. And I was

1811
01:21:38,160 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 3: just surrounded by greatness, just surrounded by greatness, and we

1812
01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,280
Speaker 3: just kicked ass for a solid five years.

1813
01:21:46,000 --> 01:21:49,240
Speaker 1: Who was your UH coordinator of the majority of those years?

1814
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:51,320
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

1815
01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 3: Gus was the first two, but Dan Quinn was is Dan?

1816
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:56,559
Speaker 3: Does he have a similar style as Gus?

1817
01:21:57,560 --> 01:22:00,120
Speaker 1: Same thing? Your over covered three, they're the same style. Oh,

1818
01:22:00,160 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 1: coach O. It was good that you guys were able

1819
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,200
Speaker 1: to pick up where you left off and being able

1820
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,599
Speaker 1: to speak on that like this. The simplicity of being

1821
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,760
Speaker 1: able to have few calls, but at the same time

1822
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: there's a lot of different wrinkles and you go tendency

1823
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 1: to Tennessee weekend and week out. I think that's what

1824
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 1: sets that defense US Bradley and those kind of methods apart,

1825
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: because you're able to be an offensive coordinator while you're playing.

1826
01:22:22,040 --> 01:22:23,960
Speaker 1: Because you don't know you're gonna play aertain amount of calls.

1827
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:27,280
Speaker 3: You get to jiggy rig your defense based off what

1828
01:22:27,400 --> 01:22:30,080
Speaker 3: the offense is doing. So you don't got to like, oh,

1829
01:22:30,160 --> 01:22:33,040
Speaker 3: this year, this week, we're going palms, next week, going quarters,

1830
01:22:33,680 --> 01:22:35,840
Speaker 3: we go run cover three. But to what they do,

1831
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 3: We're gonna just something. I need the buzzer to do this.

1832
01:22:38,600 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 3: I need the hook player to play it like this.

1833
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,800
Speaker 3: And so yeah, man, we had a good ass time. Bro,

1834
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:45,200
Speaker 3: you guys were so good.

1835
01:22:45,360 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: Man.

1836
01:22:45,880 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 3: We had a good time, man. And it's like the

1837
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,400
Speaker 3: crazy part about all of it is like it went.

1838
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:52,200
Speaker 1: By way too fast.

1839
01:22:53,240 --> 01:22:54,639
Speaker 3: Like I thought I was gonna play with like these

1840
01:22:54,680 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 3: guys my whole career, Like we came in together, We're

1841
01:22:58,240 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 3: gonna go out together.

1842
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:02,320
Speaker 1: How long did you guys get to play together? God

1843
01:23:02,479 --> 01:23:03,040
Speaker 1: left differently.

1844
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Cliff had injured his neck, Cam injured his neck,

1845
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:11,559
Speaker 3: shar him towards Achilles Earl broke his leg.

1846
01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,840
Speaker 1: I left. It all happened like boom boom, boom boom.

1847
01:23:15,960 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: That's the fucking realization of this league. Yeah, injuries and yeah,

1848
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:25,200
Speaker 1: leaving at different times. And I vividly remember watching the

1849
01:23:25,320 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 1: game the game you guys, because I want to ask

1850
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 1: about how tight you guys all actually were. It seems

1851
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,320
Speaker 1: like you guys were all super close by the time,

1852
01:23:32,479 --> 01:23:35,160
Speaker 1: Like I forget who made a mistake, but something happened

1853
01:23:35,160 --> 01:23:40,519
Speaker 1: and you everyone's jumping around that dude brothers the Falcons game. Yeah,

1854
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: got mad? I think so? Yeah? I mean what was

1855
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: playing the Falcons?

1856
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:49,639
Speaker 3: And all week we went over this concept like they're

1857
01:23:49,640 --> 01:23:52,439
Speaker 3: about to do this play here, we hear the play call,

1858
01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 3: the formation comes and tight ends went up the same

1859
01:23:55,120 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 3: as white ass hoping and can'd.

1860
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:00,800
Speaker 1: You get mad thinking about it? White ass open man?

1861
01:24:00,840 --> 01:24:03,680
Speaker 3: We get on the sideline and he was mad, like

1862
01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 3: what are we mad about? Like we practiced. We practiced

1863
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,400
Speaker 3: this all week and we were just like Cam got

1864
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:12,560
Speaker 3: a hold of Shir and Bobby got over there and

1865
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:14,600
Speaker 3: we was just jumping and jumping and jumping, and like

1866
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:17,000
Speaker 3: this just shows the power of like how much we

1867
01:24:17,120 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 3: love each other when we could take you know, one

1868
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:21,559
Speaker 3: of our boys that's just pissed off and like make

1869
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,880
Speaker 3: everything cool and we end up winning the game.

1870
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: Damn. Yeah, that was super dope to see. Were you

1871
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: guys all that tight? Yes?

1872
01:24:30,000 --> 01:24:34,439
Speaker 3: It was like watch film together at linebacker night together,

1873
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:38,559
Speaker 3: had deepensive night together, and like eventually we started having families,

1874
01:24:38,640 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 3: like everybody's having kids around the same time with each

1875
01:24:41,479 --> 01:24:45,200
Speaker 3: other's weddings, and so it was like super cool to

1876
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 3: see like like minded dudes that loved each other play

1877
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:51,919
Speaker 3: together like I believe that's what makes like a special

1878
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 3: like units like actually loved Bobby, and I'm like, I'm

1879
01:24:55,240 --> 01:24:56,080
Speaker 3: playing for this dude.

1880
01:24:56,080 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: I'm playing for his family, And if.

1881
01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:00,559
Speaker 3: I fuck up, I feel bad that I'm letting him

1882
01:25:00,600 --> 01:25:03,720
Speaker 3: down because he puts so much work into it. If

1883
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:05,599
Speaker 3: I if I blow a coverage, I know they can

1884
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:08,439
Speaker 3: like me, like like you better than that. And I

1885
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 3: don't want to let my boys down. And so that

1886
01:25:10,840 --> 01:25:14,559
Speaker 3: was the power of what we had. And like I said, man,

1887
01:25:14,720 --> 01:25:18,200
Speaker 3: it went by way too fast, by way too fast. Yeah, no,

1888
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:20,559
Speaker 3: that is uh, it's like a rare thing.

1889
01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 1: You guys got to be part of, like a rare thing,

1890
01:25:22,760 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 1: especially in the NFL because of all the turnover and

1891
01:25:25,520 --> 01:25:27,519
Speaker 1: everybody coming in and out, like being able to stick

1892
01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: together and have like a college high school ish typemaraderie

1893
01:25:33,120 --> 01:25:36,760
Speaker 1: of playing at the highest level. Yeah. Then Pete like

1894
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:37,400
Speaker 1: structured it.

1895
01:25:37,479 --> 01:25:41,320
Speaker 3: He was like, dude, is super cool, like playing music

1896
01:25:41,360 --> 01:25:45,160
Speaker 3: at every practice, We shoot hoops every every meeting, were

1897
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 3: shooting hoops, like having competition like we had like n

1898
01:25:47,560 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: CUAA tournaments like in like OTAs and stuff, and so

1899
01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:54,720
Speaker 3: like the structure that he created for us to like

1900
01:25:54,840 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 3: be ourselves to be cool to talk shit, you know,

1901
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,600
Speaker 3: had little sculfus that practice and you know, let it

1902
01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:02,599
Speaker 3: go on a little longer than.

1903
01:26:02,560 --> 01:26:05,200
Speaker 1: It should, Like he did stuff like that, And so

1904
01:26:06,280 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 1: what was that like when y'all lost or when you

1905
01:26:09,320 --> 01:26:11,800
Speaker 1: guys had losing patches or rough patches because a lot

1906
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: of things, you know, you'll see coaches come in and

1907
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,320
Speaker 1: if the coach is bad, take the ping pong tables out,

1908
01:26:16,400 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 1: take this out, like there's having too much fun, Like

1909
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:21,439
Speaker 1: it's not supposed to be this way type of thing.

1910
01:26:21,560 --> 01:26:23,080
Speaker 1: Like what was it like when you guys were going

1911
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:23,799
Speaker 1: through rough patches?

1912
01:26:23,880 --> 01:26:26,560
Speaker 3: Not only the good it would get tight, but the

1913
01:26:26,720 --> 01:26:28,800
Speaker 3: course stayed the same, like we were still who we

1914
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:32,560
Speaker 3: would still do whatever, but shit got tightened up and

1915
01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:36,000
Speaker 3: you could feel the tension like like, no, we one

1916
01:26:36,160 --> 01:26:39,639
Speaker 3: game is too much? Two games is you know, unheard

1917
01:26:39,680 --> 01:26:42,080
Speaker 3: of losing two games and what was unheard of? And

1918
01:26:42,200 --> 01:26:44,920
Speaker 3: so like we would still have our fun, but we

1919
01:26:45,080 --> 01:26:46,720
Speaker 3: tightened it up the way that it should have been

1920
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 3: in order to get back on track.

1921
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:52,600
Speaker 1: That's awesome. Let's uh, let's just hit on it. The

1922
01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:58,439
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Marshall Lynch, Yeah, passing the ball interception? Yeah,

1923
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:04,000
Speaker 1: what was that emotion, and like said, I've witnessed your

1924
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,720
Speaker 1: emotion a little bit being in the Chargers game and

1925
01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: giving up that ship at the end. What was that emotional?

1926
01:27:13,960 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 1: It's funny, what was that emotion? Like when y'all are

1927
01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: right fucking there first.

1928
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,240
Speaker 3: Preplay attitude, I was screaming, why are we in shotgun?

1929
01:27:23,280 --> 01:27:25,439
Speaker 1: Oh? So you guys weren't even so Like I'm sure

1930
01:27:25,479 --> 01:27:27,200
Speaker 1: you were thinking, oh, we're winning this fucking game, but

1931
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:30,200
Speaker 1: you were. You were upset just by saying shotgun, screaming

1932
01:27:30,439 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: why are we in shotgun? And because we was, we

1933
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 1: was right there second down, I believe, like while the

1934
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:42,840
Speaker 1: helloween shotgun and then the boss gets snapped and it's

1935
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:46,360
Speaker 1: just so unreal. Just like if we do that play

1936
01:27:46,680 --> 01:27:51,560
Speaker 1: a hundred times, we executed ninety seven times. It's a

1937
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,200
Speaker 1: pick play pick the guy run the slant, you should

1938
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:59,040
Speaker 1: be wide open. But how Malcolm did that is it's

1939
01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,000
Speaker 1: like a Superman play. It's like the honk the dudes,

1940
01:28:01,040 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 1: like the hunk on the player. He literally ran through

1941
01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:05,720
Speaker 1: it happened to catch it.

1942
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,800
Speaker 3: That's nothing but God. That's nothing but God. Bro, that

1943
01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 3: wasn't him. There's nothing but God. And just just to

1944
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 3: go on that locker room like it was Boohoo crying.

1945
01:28:18,400 --> 01:28:20,920
Speaker 3: I never cried in the NFL career. Was boo crying?

1946
01:28:21,160 --> 01:28:24,760
Speaker 3: Like how did this happen? I should be back to

1947
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:25,840
Speaker 3: back champion right now?

1948
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:27,640
Speaker 1: I know, because y'all beat the hell out of who

1949
01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 1: was the year before? It was really being the Patriots?

1950
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 1: What was being the Patriots?

1951
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 3: But like two touchdowns and the third quarter, I believe

1952
01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:37,719
Speaker 3: maybe the fourth quarter.

1953
01:28:38,439 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 1: You know, terrific Tom comes comes through, talk about who

1954
01:28:45,040 --> 01:28:50,920
Speaker 1: lady too? Great? Yeah, that's a good point, Tom Brady.

1955
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:55,719
Speaker 3: I knew it was going in the Broncos game with Brady,

1956
01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,720
Speaker 3: it was just like they don't run like a traditional

1957
01:28:58,880 --> 01:28:59,639
Speaker 3: style offense.

1958
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:02,760
Speaker 1: It's like they kind of do like they adapt every week,

1959
01:29:02,840 --> 01:29:06,240
Speaker 1: adapt every week. And with the runner back, I forget

1960
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:06,880
Speaker 1: the running back they had.

1961
01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:09,759
Speaker 3: They threw to him a lot that game and obviously

1962
01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:13,679
Speaker 3: got drunk and Edelman and there's just so much stuff

1963
01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:16,040
Speaker 3: that they can do. And I knew this was gonna

1964
01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:17,600
Speaker 3: be a battle facing those dudes. And I knew that

1965
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,519
Speaker 3: on defense they had some dogs on defense too, Chanla Jones,

1966
01:29:21,920 --> 01:29:25,200
Speaker 3: Darrell Reeves was over there, Brandon Browner, So I like, okay,

1967
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:27,200
Speaker 3: our offense, you know they got their hands for too,

1968
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,960
Speaker 3: and so I knew the Patrins games will be its

1969
01:29:31,000 --> 01:29:31,479
Speaker 3: gonna be tough.

1970
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,400
Speaker 1: Did you guys just know you're gonna beat the Broncos?

1971
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 1: Because like Manning was just kind of.

1972
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,760
Speaker 3: Just watch the film you could tell like yeah about

1973
01:29:40,800 --> 01:29:43,960
Speaker 3: way and it was watching the Broncos it was really

1974
01:29:44,040 --> 01:29:46,799
Speaker 3: bad defense. It was gonna see some really bad defenses

1975
01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:49,320
Speaker 3: that year. Like what the who are they playing? And

1976
01:29:49,479 --> 01:29:53,200
Speaker 3: so we knew that they saw a defense that that

1977
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:55,960
Speaker 3: wasn't even close to ours, you know what I mean? Yeah,

1978
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 3: And so we knew that when we stepped on the field,

1979
01:29:57,800 --> 01:29:59,360
Speaker 3: like with all due respect.

1980
01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: Respect man, this this is not gonna be closed. Let's

1981
01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 1: touch on a little bit about your first year coming

1982
01:30:07,320 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 1: into the league, because when I was looking at looking

1983
01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:11,640
Speaker 1: over stuff, I remember loafing to Tupou. My god, he

1984
01:30:11,720 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 1: didn't uh he got released? Was it year rookie year? Right? Yeah?

1985
01:30:14,640 --> 01:30:16,880
Speaker 1: It was like during training camp, training camp, and then

1986
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: also you're playing a couple of different positions they put

1987
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:22,800
Speaker 1: you in, Mike. Also, Aaron Curry was on that team,

1988
01:30:22,880 --> 01:30:24,760
Speaker 1: somebody who he was a first rounder coming out of

1989
01:30:24,760 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 1: Wake for somebody who was supposed to be like you know,

1990
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:27,720
Speaker 1: like a Pete Willis type thing.

1991
01:30:27,840 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he might have been before pe Willis. I can't remember. No,

1992
01:30:30,400 --> 01:30:33,400
Speaker 3: he was after pet Willis. Right, what was explain your

1993
01:30:33,439 --> 01:30:36,560
Speaker 3: rookie year. I came in during the lockout year, So

1994
01:30:36,680 --> 01:30:40,400
Speaker 3: I came in no OTAs and I was just chilling

1995
01:30:40,479 --> 01:30:43,360
Speaker 3: at home. Then the A deal gets signed, Hey, get

1996
01:30:43,400 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 3: your ass up here tomorrow.

1997
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:44,800
Speaker 1: I'm like what?

1998
01:30:45,800 --> 01:30:47,920
Speaker 3: And so I had to literally pack all myself and

1999
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:51,439
Speaker 3: go to Seattle like the next day. So that's the

2000
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 3: whole whirlwind in itself. And then I came in the

2001
01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,879
Speaker 3: way that I earned my starring spot was David Hawthorne

2002
01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 3: had got hurt during training camp. They put me at

2003
01:31:01,000 --> 01:31:05,440
Speaker 3: Mike Backer, right, So I did pretty good. Then Hawthorne

2004
01:31:05,520 --> 01:31:10,519
Speaker 3: came back, and you know then Curry, you know he

2005
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:11,960
Speaker 3: you know, that's my guy.

2006
01:31:12,160 --> 01:31:12,800
Speaker 1: I love Curry.

2007
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:14,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, but he was he wasn't playing to what the

2008
01:31:14,600 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 3: coaches was looking for. But then they put me at

2009
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:20,880
Speaker 3: the Sam spot and yeah, I just never looked back

2010
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:22,880
Speaker 3: ever since then. The place sam my first two years

2011
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:23,760
Speaker 3: and they moved me to Will.

2012
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:28,320
Speaker 1: Did you have anxieties your rookie year at all? You know,

2013
01:31:28,439 --> 01:31:31,200
Speaker 1: similar different style that you did in the free agency world,

2014
01:31:31,240 --> 01:31:33,880
Speaker 1: because coming in as a rookie, especially with the you know,

2015
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,320
Speaker 1: a roster that you guys, the backers that were in

2016
01:31:36,400 --> 01:31:38,200
Speaker 1: the room, did you have any anxieties going to that

2017
01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:40,760
Speaker 1: first year. No, Rookie was cool, Rookie was smooth. It

2018
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:42,240
Speaker 1: was just the whole fact of life. It was just

2019
01:31:42,280 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 1: a whole fact of leaving home. What is that I said?

2020
01:31:44,040 --> 01:31:44,920
Speaker 1: Good for you, man, good for you.

2021
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:47,400
Speaker 3: It was just the whole pact of like leaving home

2022
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:49,799
Speaker 3: with I've been in Mississippi my whole life. I remember

2023
01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,439
Speaker 3: leaving the airport like I was literally in tears, like

2024
01:31:53,360 --> 01:31:55,519
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, I'm really about to leave. And

2025
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 3: but but I came in and you know, I did

2026
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 3: pretty good. And hat soft to Norton because he like

2027
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,640
Speaker 3: everyone for Norton, I probably wouldn't be centered talking to

2028
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:06,080
Speaker 3: you today.

2029
01:32:06,479 --> 01:32:08,160
Speaker 1: He had a big name around that time, not that

2030
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:09,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't have a big name anymore, but coming out

2031
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:12,760
Speaker 1: of like USC and having those start nuds on that

2032
01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 1: USC team, being with you all, like I'm sure it's

2033
01:32:15,720 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 1: a lot of fun, like learning underneath him and you

2034
01:32:17,800 --> 01:32:18,240
Speaker 1: know him.

2035
01:32:18,240 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 3: He put he had put like these like shackles on

2036
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 3: my feet, like these because they said I got these

2037
01:32:23,120 --> 01:32:24,920
Speaker 3: long legs, so like my feel all over the place.

2038
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:27,679
Speaker 3: So he put these things on my ankles to practice

2039
01:32:27,720 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 3: in and do walk them in like keep my legs tight.

2040
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, it was crazy, like dudes making fun of

2041
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 3: me every day like why the hell you got them

2042
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:36,880
Speaker 3: things on your ankles? And so he put these things

2043
01:32:36,960 --> 01:32:38,880
Speaker 3: on my feet to where I couldn't. I was like,

2044
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:42,479
Speaker 3: right here, I couldn't overextend. So just looks uff like

2045
01:32:42,560 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 3: that that he did for me, like life, life changed

2046
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:45,240
Speaker 3: for me.

2047
01:32:45,400 --> 01:32:47,559
Speaker 1: That reminds me. So when I got to the Raiders

2048
01:32:48,479 --> 01:32:51,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, uh, you know, what's our linebacker coach?

2049
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 1: Like Coach Smith, Like, what's our linebacker coach? Like like, oh,

2050
01:32:53,400 --> 01:32:55,360
Speaker 1: you know, you'll see he coaches hard. You get he does.

2051
01:32:55,439 --> 01:32:59,479
Speaker 1: He coaches hard does to stop coaching. But you had

2052
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:01,559
Speaker 1: mentioned that there was a time during the year where

2053
01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:04,720
Speaker 1: you doubted your own ability, and hearing that from you, like,

2054
01:33:04,840 --> 01:33:06,439
Speaker 1: I know you're telling me, you're thinking, I'm like, oh damn,

2055
01:33:06,439 --> 01:33:08,400
Speaker 1: that's crazy. But in my brain what's actually going on,

2056
01:33:08,439 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 1: It's like, what the fuck is this? You talking about?

2057
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 1: Your kJ Wright type of thing? You know what I mean.

2058
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:17,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, you're you're kJ right, like you're a beast? Like,

2059
01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,960
Speaker 1: how how is that kind of stuff going through your head? Bro?

2060
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:24,600
Speaker 3: I my confidence was shot throughout the season. Is that

2061
01:33:24,760 --> 01:33:26,280
Speaker 3: because of the free agency stuff?

2062
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 1: Oh? Bro? It's because how's the top one hundred? Now? Bro?

2063
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:33,840
Speaker 3: It's because how Like when I was playing like Coach Smith,

2064
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:39,720
Speaker 3: he's so detailed, like every little thing you do like

2065
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:42,800
Speaker 3: he sees and it was like, kids, you gotta do this,

2066
01:33:43,000 --> 01:33:44,400
Speaker 3: cause you gotta do that. You're not doing this, You're

2067
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,720
Speaker 3: not doing that. I'm like, damn, like what am I doing?

2068
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:50,720
Speaker 1: Good? If I didn't have Denzel last year, like I

2069
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:51,479
Speaker 1: would have lost.

2070
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:53,960
Speaker 3: My mind because Denzel had placed in sales used to

2071
01:33:53,960 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 3: coach face like kJ you know, you know Denzel is

2072
01:33:56,520 --> 01:34:00,240
Speaker 3: he's so funny, like like you you a fucking doll.

2073
01:34:00,320 --> 01:34:03,160
Speaker 3: You bother it like you kJ Wright like chill, And

2074
01:34:03,280 --> 01:34:04,880
Speaker 3: I was like I just had to learn to like

2075
01:34:05,040 --> 01:34:08,840
Speaker 3: process and co you know, like how what is he saying?

2076
01:34:09,640 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 3: And I need to put in my brain how to

2077
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 3: interpret it versus like being so critical of myself. Yeah,

2078
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:16,920
Speaker 3: I know I'm a badass. And if I let en

2079
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 3: if I let this get to me, then I'm just

2080
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:22,080
Speaker 3: gonna keep going this Downard Spiral. I told you that,

2081
01:34:22,160 --> 01:34:25,680
Speaker 3: I told you I was lost confidence. Yeah, that's I

2082
01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:30,160
Speaker 3: was only told Denzel that. Yeah you know you No,

2083
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah that's what that's what you were telling me. I

2084
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:33,120
Speaker 3: thought it was wild too.

2085
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 1: I was just kind of asking about him and everything else,

2086
01:34:36,160 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 1: and uh, bro, you fucking I like, I'm listening to

2087
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:42,639
Speaker 1: you talk like you just you fucking love playing linebacker.

2088
01:34:42,760 --> 01:34:45,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I got a strong passion for like I

2089
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:49,519
Speaker 3: put like my whole adult lifelood into my craft.

2090
01:34:50,000 --> 01:34:55,479
Speaker 1: Absolutely, there's no question, because the the the idea of

2091
01:34:55,560 --> 01:34:58,680
Speaker 1: all this anxiety getting to you in times where it

2092
01:34:59,439 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 1: ultimately works out, especially like when you know you're a

2093
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:06,040
Speaker 1: badass and being so inside of the box of him

2094
01:35:06,120 --> 01:35:09,600
Speaker 1: coaching you in minor details that you weren't at the

2095
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 1: moment until you're like talking with people and actually thinking

2096
01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 1: through it. But to be able to kind of just

2097
01:35:14,240 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: zoom out for a second be like, oh it's all good, Yeah,

2098
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:18,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Like when besides, you would

2099
01:35:18,080 --> 01:35:19,840
Speaker 1: coach me hard, especially and he like, you know, make

2100
01:35:19,880 --> 01:35:21,920
Speaker 1: fun of me or something, or you put that on

2101
01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,560
Speaker 1: your radio show or whatever in the case, like you know,

2102
01:35:24,640 --> 01:35:26,839
Speaker 1: I'm just like, I know it's gonna be straight.

2103
01:35:27,800 --> 01:35:30,840
Speaker 3: Maybe that's maybe that's why you are as great as

2104
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,640
Speaker 3: you are. Like every year, like cut time, I was

2105
01:35:33,800 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 3: like I wasn't at ease. I was never at ease

2106
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 3: during cut time. And I always felt like somebody, like anybody,

2107
01:35:42,320 --> 01:35:44,439
Speaker 3: fourth fifth round, like somebody's gonna come and like take

2108
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 3: my spot. So I like had this like intensity and

2109
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:49,719
Speaker 3: detailed about myself, like I gotta be on my shit

2110
01:35:50,360 --> 01:35:54,840
Speaker 3: all the time or else like you, no, I'll get

2111
01:35:54,880 --> 01:35:57,360
Speaker 3: my spot taken right. So I just had this detailed

2112
01:35:57,439 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 3: demeanor about myself to like I got to be on point.

2113
01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 3: That's just how I carried myself.

2114
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,559
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, because I'm just sitting there. Damn I'm hearing

2115
01:36:06,600 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 1: Coach Smith's right now talking about your long legs and yeah,

2116
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,559
Speaker 1: get your feet tighter, and it's just like, bro, he's

2117
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:16,040
Speaker 1: a monster. How are you expecting to get his feet moving?

2118
01:36:16,120 --> 01:36:18,640
Speaker 1: Like didn say, like themselves way different yea, And I

2119
01:36:18,720 --> 01:36:19,800
Speaker 1: told called Smith out the season.

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01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,280
Speaker 3: I was like, man, thank you, because like you, I

2121
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:24,680
Speaker 3: experienced something with you that I've never ever experienced in

2122
01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 3: my NFL career, Like you pushed me to a point

2123
01:36:28,360 --> 01:36:32,040
Speaker 3: to where like I've never been I've never been pushed

2124
01:36:32,040 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 3: before like what like with details, like with just my stance,

2125
01:36:37,720 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 3: like my eyes, like any little falls step you take,

2126
01:36:39,880 --> 01:36:40,320
Speaker 3: he's on it.

2127
01:36:40,920 --> 01:36:42,000
Speaker 1: And so I just like.

2128
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:45,760
Speaker 3: I just not live up to what he wanted. But

2129
01:36:45,960 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 3: like I had to like play a certain style. So

2130
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 3: like you know, I guess appease my coach or like

2131
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:54,720
Speaker 3: be like coach, this is how it should be done.

2132
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:57,160
Speaker 1: Boom, you got it, or not get too much outside

2133
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,560
Speaker 1: of yourself since you've had like a decade career and

2134
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:01,280
Speaker 1: you know, how can get older, players can get a

2135
01:37:01,320 --> 01:37:03,360
Speaker 1: little more loose with their techniques and their details and

2136
01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:06,479
Speaker 1: everything like that. So he tied it up for me.

2137
01:37:06,600 --> 01:37:09,559
Speaker 1: So I want to read, Uh, I want to read

2138
01:37:09,640 --> 01:37:14,200
Speaker 1: some stuff that people were saying about you, and I

2139
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:17,840
Speaker 1: heard that you're somebody who loves helping people. He wants

2140
01:37:17,880 --> 01:37:20,280
Speaker 1: to share his knowledge with all the young guys. He's

2141
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:23,760
Speaker 1: truly somebody that wants to see everybody succeed and piggybacking

2142
01:37:23,840 --> 01:37:27,000
Speaker 1: on that being around you knowing that, Uh you know

2143
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 1: when I got in there and we go in obviously

2144
01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 1: before we got whoop by KC. But you're like, hey,

2145
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,120
Speaker 1: we do this. Uh, we go out as linebackers and

2146
01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,760
Speaker 1: do drills and stuff like that. It's like, Okay, you

2147
01:37:36,880 --> 01:37:38,800
Speaker 1: go out with them and he's like leading drills and

2148
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: everything else on Tuesdays? Was it Tuesdays with Diablo? Mind?

2149
01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 1: Diablo Rookie, you're sitting in me, You're sitting in just

2150
01:37:45,240 --> 01:37:47,320
Speaker 1: YouTube one on one meetings and you're going over stuff

2151
01:37:47,360 --> 01:37:51,479
Speaker 1: with him. So I've gotten a witness like who you are,

2152
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 1: not only as a player, but you're somebody that besot

2153
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:56,639
Speaker 1: you would stand up after practice. Yeah. I hate when

2154
01:37:56,640 --> 01:37:57,920
Speaker 1: he did that too. I know you did. I could

2155
01:37:57,920 --> 01:38:02,040
Speaker 1: tell you. I'm like bro sing my name. Yeah, you

2156
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:04,920
Speaker 1: know when players being like here he goes with kJ. Yeah, yeah,

2157
01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:09,240
Speaker 1: we know Kj's abes. But I definitely think it speaks

2158
01:38:09,240 --> 01:38:11,160
Speaker 1: to who you are because you're not a loud, vocal guy,

2159
01:38:11,960 --> 01:38:14,920
Speaker 1: kind of like soft spoken. You're not like a big

2160
01:38:15,040 --> 01:38:17,240
Speaker 1: raw row guy. You are when you have to be.

2161
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 1: But why it's giving back to the younger guy so

2162
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:25,080
Speaker 1: important to you and you know, how have you kind

2163
01:38:25,120 --> 01:38:27,240
Speaker 1: of built this reputation? How do you feel about this

2164
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:29,240
Speaker 1: reputation that you have with everybody when they say things

2165
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 1: like that.

2166
01:38:29,720 --> 01:38:32,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean for me, it always it always pisses

2167
01:38:32,960 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 3: me off, Like seeing like vets like, oh, he's not

2168
01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:38,800
Speaker 3: my responsibility, you know, don't I don't gotta help help a.

2169
01:38:38,800 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 1: Rookie out to me. To me, that's to me, that's bullshit.

2170
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,120
Speaker 3: Like somebody helped me when I was a rookie to

2171
01:38:45,200 --> 01:38:47,160
Speaker 3: where I was, and it's like it's kind of like

2172
01:38:47,200 --> 01:38:49,320
Speaker 3: the circle of life. It's kind of like a brotherhood,

2173
01:38:49,439 --> 01:38:52,760
Speaker 3: like like we in this thing together and somebody gave

2174
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:55,320
Speaker 3: it to me. So it's my responsibility to give back

2175
01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:58,840
Speaker 3: to somebody else. And I believe like when you when

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01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:01,439
Speaker 3: you give, like you end up receiving more on the

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01:39:01,479 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 3: back end. And so I see that teaching that.

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01:39:05,040 --> 01:39:05,840
Speaker 1: Was yeah, yeah, yeah.

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01:39:05,840 --> 01:39:08,439
Speaker 3: I saw a lot of quarterbacks say like, oh this,

2180
01:39:08,640 --> 01:39:11,240
Speaker 3: you know this quarterbacks coming in it's not my job

2181
01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 3: to help them get better.

2182
01:39:12,280 --> 01:39:13,800
Speaker 1: You know. That's like what is that?

2183
01:39:14,760 --> 01:39:17,280
Speaker 3: And so you know, this has always been my style

2184
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 3: on and off the field, just help people get to,

2185
01:39:19,880 --> 01:39:20,519
Speaker 3: you know, where I am.

2186
01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:22,880
Speaker 1: Was it ever harder for you to do knowing you

2187
01:39:22,960 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 1: were in the back seat with the Raiders compared to

2188
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: being somebody who's the starter and the man the whole time?

2189
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,240
Speaker 1: It took me a while to get there.

2190
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:30,360
Speaker 3: It took me a while once I once I found

2191
01:39:30,400 --> 01:39:33,080
Speaker 3: my groove and like came to the Raiders, I came

2192
01:39:33,120 --> 01:39:34,560
Speaker 3: in a week one, so I had to build a

2193
01:39:34,600 --> 01:39:35,639
Speaker 3: relationship with the guys.

2194
01:39:35,920 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: Show guys I could still play.

2195
01:39:37,520 --> 01:39:39,400
Speaker 3: And once I got settled in, I'm like, okay, now

2196
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:41,560
Speaker 3: I can start being the kJ that I need to be.

2197
01:39:42,080 --> 01:39:43,719
Speaker 3: And you wasn't there? Were you there when I talked

2198
01:39:43,880 --> 01:39:45,599
Speaker 3: to the team before the Browns came.

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Speaker 1: Late in the year.

2200
01:39:48,200 --> 01:39:50,160
Speaker 3: You know, when I gave that speech to the Browns,

2201
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:55,960
Speaker 3: I don't think you were there. So yeah, so yeah,

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01:39:56,240 --> 01:39:58,519
Speaker 3: the Browns game, Browns game, No, that was the time

2203
01:39:58,560 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 3: I left. Yeah, oh yeah, I gave a speech the

2204
01:40:01,200 --> 01:40:03,920
Speaker 3: week before the day of the Browns game, just just

2205
01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:06,160
Speaker 3: telling the fellows, you know what it is and like

2206
01:40:06,240 --> 01:40:09,439
Speaker 3: playoff football, December football, this style should look and bro

2207
01:40:09,640 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 3: we went on a four game winning streak and so yeah,

2208
01:40:12,520 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 3: you know, I got a lot to give. And when

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01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:17,040
Speaker 3: I do speak, you know, people listen, people listen.

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Speaker 1: thirty pm Eastern on Fox, Speak on besides you, dude,

2234
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:32,400
Speaker 1: because you were there from week you were there a

2235
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,280
Speaker 1: week one. You were there when all the Gruden stuff

2236
01:41:34,280 --> 01:41:36,720
Speaker 1: went down. You were there when all the headlines came

2237
01:41:36,760 --> 01:41:42,040
Speaker 1: out with rugs with who's the cornerbacks name Arnett Arnett

2238
01:41:42,280 --> 01:41:47,080
Speaker 1: the corner on Instagram with the guns. Well, I was

2239
01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 1: there when Hobbs got the dui. But all these things

2240
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,080
Speaker 1: are happening throughout the year. Speak on the year, because

2241
01:41:54,120 --> 01:41:56,160
Speaker 1: you're not somebody who's been invested in the Raiders. You're

2242
01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 1: on a one year deal. You just were there this year.

2243
01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 1: Speak on the year of the Vegas Raiders being there

2244
01:42:02,560 --> 01:42:04,360
Speaker 1: the entirety of the year. It was a it was

2245
01:42:04,439 --> 01:42:07,160
Speaker 1: a roller coaster, bro. It was a real roller coaster,

2246
01:42:07,320 --> 01:42:07,600
Speaker 1: like Bro.

2247
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:09,479
Speaker 3: For us to like pull out ten wins with all

2248
01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 3: this stuff we went through, pretty damn impressive.

2249
01:42:12,640 --> 01:42:15,599
Speaker 1: Absolutely, pretty damn impressive That this kind of year will

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01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:17,479
Speaker 1: be talked about. I think it'll be an example for

2251
01:42:17,680 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 1: interim head coaches, like it's at you to me is

2252
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:25,479
Speaker 1: the bar. I'm surprised you didn't get hired same. I

2253
01:42:25,560 --> 01:42:28,280
Speaker 1: think we're I think we're all surprised, but also there's

2254
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,640
Speaker 1: in a way of you that's not surprised understanding the

2255
01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 1: you know, the high ups.

2256
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:36,559
Speaker 3: Yeah, but my thing is like if you're a higher up,

2257
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,000
Speaker 3: like the players make the team go, and if the

2258
01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:42,759
Speaker 3: players are connected with the coach.

2259
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:44,720
Speaker 1: The ship, the ship should flow.

2260
01:42:45,160 --> 01:42:48,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely, Like you gotta literally start over, like building relationships

2261
01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 3: and that stuff takes time, right, that stuff takes time.

2262
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, man, I think we were all That's

2263
01:42:54,720 --> 01:42:57,000
Speaker 1: why I would say, you know, when we were playing

2264
01:42:57,040 --> 01:42:59,080
Speaker 1: at the end of the year, like guys not only

2265
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:00,960
Speaker 1: want to win and getting the layoffs for each other

2266
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,640
Speaker 1: and like you know, these opportunities don't come often, but

2267
01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 1: also people wanted to see besides you.

2268
01:43:06,240 --> 01:43:09,320
Speaker 3: You felt you felt like dudes really loved him, right, yeah,

2269
01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:11,400
Speaker 3: like you really loved No, I never had a coach

2270
01:43:11,479 --> 01:43:15,519
Speaker 3: to where like dudes like really gravitating, like really like

2271
01:43:15,720 --> 01:43:16,760
Speaker 3: loved and respect him.

2272
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,880
Speaker 1: Like Rich is a different dude. He's a different dude.

2273
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:23,120
Speaker 3: And you know he had an impact on offense, defense

2274
01:43:23,160 --> 01:43:26,559
Speaker 3: and special teams, like dudes like really gravitated towards them,

2275
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:28,719
Speaker 3: and so like that's just a no brainer.

2276
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:31,840
Speaker 1: Like, Dad, you gotta kind of like give me another year,

2277
01:43:32,479 --> 01:43:37,280
Speaker 1: one year deal, give me another year to do this thing. Yeah,

2278
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:39,280
Speaker 1: you kind of knew where it might go, especially when

2279
01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:43,080
Speaker 1: they fired mayok you kind of figured that. Okay, whenever

2280
01:43:43,120 --> 01:43:46,360
Speaker 1: they get yeah, yeah, you bring in a new gym,

2281
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:47,960
Speaker 1: it's like when the head coach gets hired and they're

2282
01:43:47,960 --> 01:43:49,880
Speaker 1: binging their and their guy, and it's like, if a

2283
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:51,760
Speaker 1: gym gets hired, they're obviously gonna be sitting there with

2284
01:43:51,960 --> 01:43:55,479
Speaker 1: uh Mark Davis and yeah, they'll probably talk about, you know,

2285
01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:57,320
Speaker 1: all the stuff I'm bringing in so and so and

2286
01:43:57,560 --> 01:43:59,840
Speaker 1: bringing in their guys, and then they get infatuated with

2287
01:43:59,880 --> 01:44:02,400
Speaker 1: the new, with the fantasy football or of what it

2288
01:44:02,479 --> 01:44:05,280
Speaker 1: could be instead of seeing like what has been right there.

2289
01:44:05,120 --> 01:44:07,800
Speaker 3: With real what's real? Like I'm not just going ahead

2290
01:44:07,800 --> 01:44:09,639
Speaker 3: and get this office to Guru. I'm gonna get what's real.

2291
01:44:09,920 --> 01:44:13,840
Speaker 1: Right. What was it like when Gruden was out and

2292
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:18,080
Speaker 1: then Basach steps in immediately, It was a pretty smooth transition.

2293
01:44:18,960 --> 01:44:21,840
Speaker 1: It was a pretty smooth transition. And the different.

2294
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:25,920
Speaker 3: Styles with Basachi, Like Bashashi didn't play like you say,

2295
01:44:26,000 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 3: he put dudes fines up, like he'll call anybody out

2296
01:44:30,200 --> 01:44:33,519
Speaker 3: and he'll dress anything, and so he just say he'll

2297
01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:36,280
Speaker 3: dress anything in anybody, And he just had this demeanor

2298
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:40,160
Speaker 3: like like I'm this tough alpha male, but I can

2299
01:44:40,200 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 3: also still be on the same level issue to wear

2300
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 3: and win this ship together. But no, we go get

2301
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:47,280
Speaker 3: were gonna get this right. But I'm gonna still be

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01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:51,439
Speaker 3: one with the boys, right, Yeah, one with the boys.

2303
01:44:51,479 --> 01:44:55,560
Speaker 1: I love that. Yeah, Komba with the boys. Man, I

2304
01:44:55,680 --> 01:44:58,200
Speaker 1: did hear that when I was asking, Hey, how's it

2305
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:00,560
Speaker 1: been with Coach Pasachi and stuff? Guys? I know a

2306
01:45:00,640 --> 01:45:02,840
Speaker 1: lot of things tightened up, like dudes just parking in

2307
01:45:03,040 --> 01:45:06,240
Speaker 1: like handicap spots or electric electric car spots and like

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01:45:06,280 --> 01:45:07,880
Speaker 1: a lot of things kind of just tightened up around

2309
01:45:07,880 --> 01:45:12,800
Speaker 1: the building. What else do we have? Boys? Do you

2310
01:45:12,840 --> 01:45:20,080
Speaker 1: guys have anything good? Howlong?

2311
01:45:20,200 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 3: Was that we were at an hour fifteen. I think

2312
01:45:23,080 --> 01:45:26,280
Speaker 3: the conversation has been, Hey, dude.

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01:45:28,439 --> 01:45:32,639
Speaker 1: We do we get enough stories then unless you want

2314
01:45:32,680 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 1: to tell you guys are stories talk about some of

2315
01:45:35,120 --> 01:45:38,240
Speaker 1: those battles with the Niners. Boss is a Niners fan.

2316
01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:44,960
Speaker 1: Don't worry about him, bro, What did we miss? Hey? You, uh,

2317
01:45:45,640 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 1: what is mister unlimited? Like? Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's it

2318
01:45:48,320 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 1: like playing with mister on limb? And that question? Hey,

2319
01:45:53,280 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 1: you did it seems like the media got you a

2320
01:45:56,280 --> 01:45:59,439
Speaker 1: little bit by baiting you in and talking about his contract,

2321
01:45:59,479 --> 01:46:01,600
Speaker 1: and you said he should take a pay cut to

2322
01:46:01,640 --> 01:46:07,400
Speaker 1: help the team. Did you get got by that? Twitter

2323
01:46:07,560 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 1: was on my head when I said that. And here's

2324
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 1: the thing. The reason the reason I said that was because.

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01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,360
Speaker 3: There's some freations that's about to come up for the

2326
01:46:19,400 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 3: Seahawks that I love, and like Seahawks cap space.

2327
01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 1: Is a little tight.

2328
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 3: It's a little tight, and so I was saying that

2329
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 3: from the sense of can something be done to help

2330
01:46:31,479 --> 01:46:35,120
Speaker 3: out the greater good? Because if some of them free

2331
01:46:35,120 --> 01:46:37,760
Speaker 3: agents leave, whoever the Seahawks put back there, it's gonna

2332
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 3: get a little shaky. And so if in my mind,

2333
01:46:41,200 --> 01:46:43,920
Speaker 3: if I can somehow help the team so I could

2334
01:46:43,960 --> 01:46:46,639
Speaker 3: be in the playoffs and win the division. I want

2335
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:49,240
Speaker 3: the best people in the building. So if I can

2336
01:46:49,360 --> 01:46:53,759
Speaker 3: restructure a little bit to keep my boys in the building,

2337
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:55,320
Speaker 3: then I think he should really consider that.

2338
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:58,960
Speaker 1: Got you so a lot like a like a Tom Brady? Yeah,

2339
01:46:59,400 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 1: like a Tom Brad, Do you move to keep his

2340
01:47:00,960 --> 01:47:09,120
Speaker 1: boys around and make room for them? Yeah? You said

2341
01:47:09,120 --> 01:47:11,479
Speaker 1: people do that more. Seems like you know people that

2342
01:47:11,640 --> 01:47:13,479
Speaker 1: love football would do that.

2343
01:47:14,200 --> 01:47:18,519
Speaker 3: Than it is. Yeah, yeah, because I guess the ultimate

2344
01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:22,080
Speaker 3: question is like how much money is enough money? Yeah,

2345
01:47:22,960 --> 01:47:24,759
Speaker 3: some people bere like if I got a million dollars,

2346
01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:27,840
Speaker 3: my life is good. Once you get to get that million,

2347
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:31,240
Speaker 3: you're like, I want five million, and so there's there's

2348
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:35,000
Speaker 3: really no cap on how much you know, I should

2349
01:47:35,080 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 3: get in my bank account, because like I said, the

2350
01:47:38,320 --> 01:47:41,519
Speaker 3: window is short, and some guys, you know, fifty million

2351
01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:43,559
Speaker 3: or I earned every every bit of this is fifty million.

2352
01:47:43,640 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 3: I feel like I shouldn't have to give this away

2353
01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 3: because at the end of the day, it's like, when

2354
01:47:48,200 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 3: it's all said and done, it's me and my family

2355
01:47:51,400 --> 01:47:56,439
Speaker 3: and my grandkids. And so everybody's mentality is different. Everybody's

2356
01:47:56,479 --> 01:47:58,880
Speaker 3: mentality different. I feel like if I was in that position,

2357
01:47:59,000 --> 01:48:02,559
Speaker 3: I would have like the time brading mentality, right, Yeah, I.

2358
01:48:02,560 --> 01:48:11,840
Speaker 1: Feel like mm hmm rare. Yeah. Yeah.

2359
01:48:13,160 --> 01:48:15,400
Speaker 3: Well, some guys look at football like, oh, it's football,

2360
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,240
Speaker 3: and you know, Super Bowl is a super Bowl.

2361
01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:18,400
Speaker 1: You know.

2362
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:20,559
Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, some guys feel like money

2363
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:23,599
Speaker 3: is more important than than Pro Bowls. So everybody got

2364
01:48:23,640 --> 01:48:26,600
Speaker 3: their own motivations. Everybody got their own motivations.

2365
01:48:27,160 --> 01:48:29,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that is true. I think sitting on this

2366
01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:33,599
Speaker 1: entire conversation too. You we've talked about so many different

2367
01:48:33,720 --> 01:48:37,599
Speaker 1: perspectives of where your mental can be at. Because then

2368
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:40,560
Speaker 1: when you talk about you know, this stuff with like

2369
01:48:41,120 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 1: the the ownership and the elite and how stuff's got

2370
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:45,599
Speaker 1: to change, you got to you start from a more

2371
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:48,120
Speaker 1: of a selfish standpoint of like players, then when we're

2372
01:48:48,160 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 1: talking about all of our player stuff, our player level

2373
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:53,840
Speaker 1: of everything, it gets a little more. It can either

2374
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:55,759
Speaker 1: be selfish or you got to be a little more selfless.

2375
01:48:56,520 --> 01:48:59,360
Speaker 1: So there's just so many different there's so many different

2376
01:48:59,360 --> 01:49:01,439
Speaker 1: mentalities for different situations too, because.

2377
01:49:01,200 --> 01:49:02,719
Speaker 3: I remember when I was younger, like in high school

2378
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:04,640
Speaker 3: in the college, I would see guys holding out. I'm like,

2379
01:49:05,080 --> 01:49:07,080
Speaker 3: why is he holding out? Like bro, you got like

2380
01:49:07,320 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 3: all these money, Like what are you doing? But when

2381
01:49:09,400 --> 01:49:12,519
Speaker 3: you get in that position, you see like, Okay, I

2382
01:49:12,800 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 3: really got to maximize this. I got to maximize this,

2383
01:49:15,600 --> 01:49:17,960
Speaker 3: and I can't think of it like I can't put

2384
01:49:17,960 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 3: the team before myself.

2385
01:49:19,040 --> 01:49:23,360
Speaker 1: Essentially, some gus, you're thinking about generations at that point too.

2386
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:25,280
Speaker 1: It guss enough money for you. It's then it's like

2387
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:28,559
Speaker 1: you said, grandchildren, great grandchildren, Like it's generation.

2388
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:32,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, some guys think like, hey, like the super

2389
01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:34,080
Speaker 3: Bowl is everything to me. I want to do everything

2390
01:49:34,120 --> 01:49:36,479
Speaker 3: I can to be great and be remembered. So we

2391
01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 3: all got our different motivations.

2392
01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:40,760
Speaker 1: And then from that too, like having the motivation of

2393
01:49:40,880 --> 01:49:43,280
Speaker 1: team and football and super Bowls and championships. To me,

2394
01:49:43,400 --> 01:49:45,559
Speaker 1: that speaks a lot more to the masters of people

2395
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:47,200
Speaker 1: that get behind those guys who are like the all

2396
01:49:47,200 --> 01:49:49,640
Speaker 1: American boys, right, you know what I mean, So that

2397
01:49:49,760 --> 01:49:52,040
Speaker 1: speaks more to them because you know, Blas Sea wants

2398
01:49:52,040 --> 01:49:53,240
Speaker 1: the Niners that winning championship.

2399
01:49:53,320 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, so when somebody's out there like, oh, I want

2400
01:49:55,360 --> 01:49:56,600
Speaker 3: to win to you know, I want doing this for

2401
01:49:56,640 --> 01:49:57,080
Speaker 3: the Super Bowl.

2402
01:49:57,120 --> 01:49:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm doing this for the you know people that it's

2403
01:49:59,760 --> 01:50:02,080
Speaker 1: like there's more of a percentage of people that like

2404
01:50:02,360 --> 01:50:04,760
Speaker 1: like that early behind you, that really behind that. Because

2405
01:50:04,800 --> 01:50:07,960
Speaker 1: some people say win win is enough money enough? Very true,

2406
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:10,040
Speaker 1: But if we continue to peel layers back when he

2407
01:50:10,120 --> 01:50:14,280
Speaker 1: says generational wealth, generational wealth is clearly what drives the

2408
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:18,200
Speaker 1: elite that your society is trying to correct a little

2409
01:50:18,240 --> 01:50:21,439
Speaker 1: bit with all the the Brian floor stuff, with all

2410
01:50:21,439 --> 01:50:24,679
Speaker 1: that coaching stuff going on, Like there's so many different

2411
01:50:24,760 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 1: fucking levels that It all kind of depends on what

2412
01:50:28,520 --> 01:50:33,880
Speaker 1: game you're playing. Right when you when you beat the Broncos,

2413
01:50:34,640 --> 01:50:37,720
Speaker 1: was that like, like, was there any thought of like

2414
01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,600
Speaker 1: I did it? Okay, I'm like, is that it? Like?

2415
01:50:41,680 --> 01:50:44,160
Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, definitely I can get it again. Yeah,

2416
01:50:44,200 --> 01:50:48,680
Speaker 3: but I accomplish what so many guys want to and

2417
01:50:48,760 --> 01:50:49,200
Speaker 3: never will.

2418
01:50:49,960 --> 01:50:50,720
Speaker 1: I got that.

2419
01:50:50,920 --> 01:50:52,439
Speaker 3: I got what I was looking for when I was

2420
01:50:52,479 --> 01:50:56,120
Speaker 3: a kid, and it and it hits you like damn,

2421
01:50:56,160 --> 01:50:58,640
Speaker 3: I really did it. You just want to go do

2422
01:50:58,720 --> 01:50:59,080
Speaker 3: it again?

2423
01:50:59,560 --> 01:51:00,760
Speaker 1: I know here.

2424
01:51:00,840 --> 01:51:03,080
Speaker 4: Is there any destinations that you want to play at, Like,

2425
01:51:03,240 --> 01:51:05,599
Speaker 4: any teams that you want to play for coming up?

2426
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:08,360
Speaker 4: Would you like to play I don't know if you

2427
01:51:08,439 --> 01:51:11,120
Speaker 4: had like a childhood team that you grew up liking

2428
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:14,320
Speaker 4: that the opportunity presents itself to possibly play for them.

2429
01:51:14,360 --> 01:51:19,160
Speaker 1: A group of Cowboys fan and but yeah yeah for me.

2430
01:51:19,680 --> 01:51:22,920
Speaker 3: For me and where I am right now, what I

2431
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,799
Speaker 3: did this past year was I left my family in Seattle.

2432
01:51:26,800 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 3: Won't do that shit again, And so a team would

2433
01:51:29,240 --> 01:51:31,080
Speaker 3: have to come correct that would have to come early

2434
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:34,640
Speaker 3: in the free agency process. I can get my family situated,

2435
01:51:34,760 --> 01:51:37,840
Speaker 3: get them move to wherever I am going to, and

2436
01:51:37,880 --> 01:51:40,000
Speaker 3: they an't go play ball. But if it happens like

2437
01:51:40,120 --> 01:51:44,559
Speaker 3: training camp, I'll put together a really good career. Uh

2438
01:51:45,400 --> 01:51:49,599
Speaker 3: you know, I'll be happy just transition to something else. Yeah,

2439
01:51:49,680 --> 01:51:55,840
Speaker 3: how much longer do you want to play? That's a

2440
01:51:55,880 --> 01:52:02,200
Speaker 3: good question, really good question. I don't have the answer

2441
01:52:02,280 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 3: to that.

2442
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:05,160
Speaker 1: Do you know what you want to do after ball?

2443
01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:11,800
Speaker 1: What is that? Yeah?

2444
01:52:13,000 --> 01:52:14,840
Speaker 3: I can't stew the next move, but I'm gonna tell

2445
01:52:14,880 --> 01:52:15,000
Speaker 3: you this.

2446
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,000
Speaker 1: I want to stay. They run the game of football. Well,

2447
01:52:18,040 --> 01:52:20,240
Speaker 1: I figured that much. I can't tell you what it is,

2448
01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:23,639
Speaker 1: so damn you can tell me off camera camera. Okay,

2449
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:26,960
Speaker 1: I can't tell you now, though. Let's go boys. The

2450
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2451
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2452
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2453
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2454
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2455
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Speaker 1: lemon fizz session, citrus smitht My personal favorite. The boy's

2456
01:52:47,800 --> 01:52:51,080
Speaker 1: personal favorite is fresh ginger lime. There's nothing out there

2457
01:52:51,200 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 1: like it. It's a whiskey cocktail and a can refreshing, full, balanced,

2458
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2459
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2460
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2461
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Speaker 1: fruit in it is barrel aged and whiskey barrels, giving

2464
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:19,240
Speaker 1: it those subtle little whiskey notes. The boys are huge

2465
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:22,120
Speaker 1: whiskey guys, especially me, but this is gonna be my

2466
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:24,640
Speaker 1: go to for tailgates out on the boat, on the bonfire,

2467
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,679
Speaker 1: at a bonfire, barbecue with the boys. Honestly, it's perfect

2468
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2469
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2470
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2472
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Speaker 1: over Tennessee. Get a box, get a case for all

2473
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Speaker 1: the boys, take photos, drink them, sip them. Whatever you

2474
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Speaker 1: do tag us. We will engage with you because these

2475
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:53,920
Speaker 1: this is the boys.

2476
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:54,120
Speaker 3: Now.

2477
01:53:54,640 --> 01:53:57,800
Speaker 1: Whistle Pig bustle with the boys it's a thing of beauty, piggyback,

2478
01:53:57,880 --> 01:54:01,280
Speaker 1: Rice smash. Who does he have any good Marshall Lynch stories.

2479
01:54:01,800 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 1: I don't come on now, you're you're lying, bro. What

2480
01:54:05,240 --> 01:54:11,200
Speaker 1: was he like after the play? Was he or was

2481
01:54:11,200 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 1: he quiet? No? It was just just mad. Yeah, it's

2482
01:54:18,240 --> 01:54:18,719
Speaker 1: just mad.

2483
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:20,439
Speaker 3: And he played that next year and I believe he

2484
01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:23,559
Speaker 3: left that that following year. It's just like when when

2485
01:54:23,600 --> 01:54:27,519
Speaker 3: stuff like that happens, like a distrust occurs, like I

2486
01:54:27,600 --> 01:54:30,040
Speaker 3: can't trust you, I can't look at you the same,

2487
01:54:30,640 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 3: I don't know who you are like that's that's the

2488
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:35,160
Speaker 3: type of that type of feeling you have.

2489
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 1: And so all bad, all bad. We need to get

2490
01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:42,880
Speaker 1: some of those boys on the bus man, you might

2491
01:54:42,960 --> 01:54:47,400
Speaker 1: be our bridge. Who you want? Man? Everybody we've kind

2492
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:49,280
Speaker 1: of talked about it. You get like two guys in here?

2493
01:54:50,000 --> 01:54:52,560
Speaker 1: Who you who? Who is it? Two? What? Two? Do

2494
01:54:52,640 --> 01:54:59,400
Speaker 1: you think? I think Doug would be good too? A

2495
01:54:59,480 --> 01:55:02,800
Speaker 1: ball one? M hm? Just sherman Doug on here.

2496
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:05,200
Speaker 3: You can help that, you can you can try and

2497
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:07,400
Speaker 3: facilitate that for it, not facilitate, but at least make

2498
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:07,880
Speaker 3: the connection.

2499
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:10,360
Speaker 1: Do y'all fly guys out. We will. We're gonna start

2500
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:12,320
Speaker 1: to yeah, fly him out. So if you would to

2501
01:55:12,320 --> 01:55:15,760
Speaker 1: play your cards right now, it's the right question, I'll

2502
01:55:15,760 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 1: see you there you go. Yeah, I would love to

2503
01:55:20,400 --> 01:55:21,000
Speaker 1: have those guys on.

2504
01:55:21,160 --> 01:55:25,840
Speaker 3: Man, Marshaun Marshawn would be huge, But who knows if

2505
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:30,920
Speaker 3: you could get now he's seeing the TV show now,

2506
01:55:31,360 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 3: I was doing everything, like every time I go in

2507
01:55:33,160 --> 01:55:36,160
Speaker 3: like Walmart, he's on somebody sponsoring somebody. You know you

2508
01:55:36,200 --> 01:55:39,280
Speaker 3: work with the NFL p A now really yeah, it's

2509
01:55:39,280 --> 01:55:43,840
Speaker 3: like a brand ambassador subway and the dude is killing it. Yeah,

2510
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:45,560
Speaker 3: I mean he needs to. He can essentially be a

2511
01:55:45,880 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 3: brand ambassador for everybody.

2512
01:55:47,440 --> 01:55:47,640
Speaker 1: Yeah.

2513
01:55:48,120 --> 01:55:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's about to do like commentating next

2514
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 3: season for Amazon.

2515
01:55:52,600 --> 01:55:54,720
Speaker 1: You see that. Oh yeah yeah yeah. They're like putting

2516
01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:58,160
Speaker 1: something together for him. You saw the show he's gonna do, right,

2517
01:55:58,960 --> 01:56:04,840
Speaker 1: He's in some like funny freestyling crime scene show. They

2518
01:56:04,880 --> 01:56:07,920
Speaker 1: were they just they just give him like uh situations

2519
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:16,920
Speaker 1: and they they improvised through it. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

2520
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:20,040
Speaker 1: he's funny. Man. I'd love to meet the dude. So

2521
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:21,520
Speaker 1: we don't know, we don't know when you're gonna hang

2522
01:56:21,560 --> 01:56:23,000
Speaker 1: him up. Mm hmm.

2523
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:25,480
Speaker 3: My team would have to come like we're afraid to

2524
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:28,320
Speaker 3: see it. It would have to be around that window.

2525
01:56:29,120 --> 01:56:31,600
Speaker 1: See I think listening you say, if it's training camp,

2526
01:56:31,680 --> 01:56:33,800
Speaker 1: then you're you know, do hang him up, Which is

2527
01:56:33,840 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 1: crazy to me, because Bro, you can finest training camp.

2528
01:56:36,400 --> 01:56:40,320
Speaker 1: Let me teach you about the other side. Let me

2529
01:56:40,360 --> 01:56:44,000
Speaker 1: teach you about the other side of it. Yeah, so

2530
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:48,200
Speaker 1: you essentially finest training camp this year, and I hated it. Bro,

2531
01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:51,200
Speaker 1: I came in week one week once my training camp,

2532
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:54,120
Speaker 1: my legs were dead. You just gotta train a little harder,

2533
01:56:54,560 --> 01:56:55,960
Speaker 1: a little smarter. We train a little harder, we train

2534
01:56:56,000 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 1: a little smarter. We'll get you right. But Bro, you

2535
01:56:58,160 --> 01:56:59,920
Speaker 1: you finessed putting that wear and tear on your body

2536
01:57:00,000 --> 01:57:02,640
Speaker 1: about OTA's and training camp. You get on the week,

2537
01:57:02,760 --> 01:57:06,040
Speaker 1: Rod Roster, I'm winning your your guarantee for the year.

2538
01:57:06,640 --> 01:57:12,800
Speaker 1: Man he does especially and not to like do my

2539
01:57:12,880 --> 01:57:15,480
Speaker 1: younger stuff at disservice. I was absolutely obsessed with football

2540
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:17,440
Speaker 1: when I was younger. But we are very much. We

2541
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:19,680
Speaker 1: just see the we see it differently. Being on the

2542
01:57:19,720 --> 01:57:25,000
Speaker 1: back end of stuff. You you you you identify with

2543
01:57:25,160 --> 01:57:27,840
Speaker 1: being that ballplayer, like being that great elite at all

2544
01:57:27,960 --> 01:57:30,480
Speaker 1: times until it's done, which I respect and appreciate it

2545
01:57:30,520 --> 01:57:33,120
Speaker 1: and admire about you. That's what makes you's the leader

2546
01:57:33,160 --> 01:57:38,600
Speaker 1: you are and everything else. Man, this is something I

2547
01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:42,640
Speaker 1: could tap into well. To me, So here, here's here's

2548
01:57:42,680 --> 01:57:45,280
Speaker 1: the awareness I essentially had. He I had to accept

2549
01:57:45,640 --> 01:57:47,400
Speaker 1: that I was going to be in the minimum role

2550
01:57:47,480 --> 01:57:50,360
Speaker 1: year in and year out, and accepting that at the

2551
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,880
Speaker 1: time was hard, like knowing that this could be my

2552
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:55,160
Speaker 1: last year being up in the air, balancing things like

2553
01:57:55,640 --> 01:57:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't know where I'm gonna be. It did take

2554
01:57:57,680 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 1: a toll, like I'm not saying that I just made

2555
01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:01,560
Speaker 1: some transition and now I see it this way and

2556
01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't care about it as much as I kind

2557
01:58:02,920 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 1: of just in loosey goosey whatever it is. There was

2558
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:08,400
Speaker 1: like that time of like coming to grips with like

2559
01:58:08,760 --> 01:58:11,320
Speaker 1: having to do that and give that up, not give

2560
01:58:11,360 --> 01:58:14,400
Speaker 1: it up, but zoom out a little bit and be like, bro,

2561
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:18,200
Speaker 1: come stop identifying so much with this that you care

2562
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 1: when something doesn't go your way, because that would affect me.

2563
01:58:21,440 --> 01:58:23,720
Speaker 1: It would affect my sleep, it would affect all the

2564
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:26,040
Speaker 1: stuff that you would talk about with your anxieties. And

2565
01:58:26,160 --> 01:58:29,320
Speaker 1: so knowing that I just accept I had to accept

2566
01:58:29,400 --> 01:58:33,120
Speaker 1: that allowed me to be a little more graceful with myself,

2567
01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:35,440
Speaker 1: like as I'm doing these things, like Okay, if I

2568
01:58:35,520 --> 01:58:37,280
Speaker 1: know I'm gonna be this way and a team's not gonna,

2569
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:41,320
Speaker 1: you know, come correct in my world or have a

2570
01:58:41,440 --> 01:58:45,800
Speaker 1: place to be in OTAs or training camp, then I'll

2571
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:48,240
Speaker 1: accept my stance of like I'm gonna try and finesse

2572
01:58:48,280 --> 01:58:49,720
Speaker 1: as much training camp as I can and get to

2573
01:58:49,760 --> 01:58:51,200
Speaker 1: try to get on a team week one of the roster,

2574
01:58:51,360 --> 01:58:53,480
Speaker 1: or if I don't like the situation, I'll wait until

2575
01:58:53,480 --> 01:58:55,520
Speaker 1: we get into the year to do it. So I

2576
01:58:55,640 --> 01:58:58,280
Speaker 1: kind of just like that reality kind of sucked. But

2577
01:58:58,960 --> 01:59:00,920
Speaker 1: to me it was just the whole acceptance thing. And

2578
01:59:01,320 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 1: for you it's like you don't accept going all the

2579
01:59:03,640 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 1: way waiting till training camp. You won't even wait to

2580
01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:07,360
Speaker 1: get to training camp. Like to me, it's like, okay,

2581
01:59:07,400 --> 01:59:09,960
Speaker 1: well you're not doing OTAs. You have the entire month

2582
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:13,320
Speaker 1: one to month seven the end of seven, so really

2583
01:59:13,360 --> 01:59:15,840
Speaker 1: eight months to structure out all of your training in

2584
01:59:15,880 --> 01:59:17,800
Speaker 1: the way you're going to get that one percent better

2585
01:59:17,880 --> 01:59:20,080
Speaker 1: because that's what we all chase as players, that one

2586
01:59:20,120 --> 01:59:22,800
Speaker 1: percent better throughout the off season. And so knowing you

2587
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:24,880
Speaker 1: don't have OT's because OTA is and me outside of

2588
01:59:24,920 --> 01:59:28,200
Speaker 1: the camaraderie, building the relationships being in the book and

2589
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:31,360
Speaker 1: kind of building that culture with the fellas on the

2590
01:59:31,480 --> 01:59:34,760
Speaker 1: business side of it, knowing that we cram everything in

2591
01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:36,560
Speaker 1: in a four hour window and it's not necessarily the

2592
01:59:36,640 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 1: best thing for our body. Knowing you get to have

2593
01:59:38,640 --> 01:59:41,720
Speaker 1: those days off and do it your own self. And

2594
01:59:41,800 --> 01:59:43,280
Speaker 1: if a team was wont to negotiate with you in

2595
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:45,480
Speaker 1: training camp, to me, that's to me, you're kind of

2596
01:59:45,520 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 1: winning in that regard because you've put eleven years together.

2597
01:59:50,360 --> 01:59:53,240
Speaker 1: Not only that, but the legacy you get to speak

2598
01:59:53,280 --> 01:59:55,360
Speaker 1: on and talk about. We can smile and laugh about it,

2599
01:59:55,640 --> 01:59:57,440
Speaker 1: but we get that we got to have a conversation

2600
01:59:57,640 --> 02:00:00,360
Speaker 1: like this and people, you know, the people that watch

2601
02:00:00,520 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 1: there's billions, but uh, they know you more. You know

2602
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:10,840
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like they're the the proving yourself model.

2603
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:11,440
Speaker 1: That's the thing.

2604
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:13,280
Speaker 3: Like I always looked at myself like I don't got

2605
02:00:13,320 --> 02:00:16,680
Speaker 3: time to misstraining camp, or like I can't I can't

2606
02:00:16,720 --> 02:00:19,400
Speaker 3: miss out on that window. Yeah, because that's I feel

2607
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 3: like I'm getting behind a crucial time.

2608
02:00:21,800 --> 02:00:25,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I just yeah, I was like he's obsessed. Yeah, No,

2609
02:00:25,600 --> 02:00:27,960
Speaker 1: And it's not a good. It's not. I I love it.

2610
02:00:28,040 --> 02:00:30,720
Speaker 1: It's like a part of me wish is I was.

2611
02:00:30,880 --> 02:00:33,000
Speaker 1: I was. I always in a position like you because

2612
02:00:33,000 --> 02:00:35,080
Speaker 1: it's like, man, it is. It's a good time when

2613
02:00:35,080 --> 02:00:36,840
Speaker 1: you're obsessed, you're in and you're out with like the

2614
02:00:36,920 --> 02:00:40,480
Speaker 1: one thing of football. Yeah, I guess I'm not gonna

2615
02:00:40,480 --> 02:00:44,880
Speaker 1: be able to talk you into it, no, but I

2616
02:00:45,000 --> 02:00:49,400
Speaker 1: appreciate you coming on. Man, this has been an awesome conversation. Yes, dude,

2617
02:00:49,400 --> 02:00:51,720
Speaker 1: And I know we've we've known each other. We need

2618
02:00:51,760 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 1: each other the five weeks and I was going for

2619
02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:57,000
Speaker 1: like three of them. Yeah, And uh, I got connected

2620
02:00:57,040 --> 02:00:58,920
Speaker 1: with you on on Twitter and social media because of

2621
02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:02,480
Speaker 1: this stuff you say and literally that videos. To me,

2622
02:01:02,560 --> 02:01:04,760
Speaker 1: it's just a very small look on top of the

2623
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:07,480
Speaker 1: cookie jar. What you're what you represented, what you're about.

2624
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:09,320
Speaker 1: And I appreciate being able to like pick your brain.

2625
02:01:09,760 --> 02:01:12,000
Speaker 1: I appreciate being able to like nudge trying to nudge

2626
02:01:12,000 --> 02:01:16,080
Speaker 1: you certain ways and you're like, you're fucking You're a legend.

2627
02:01:16,160 --> 02:01:17,800
Speaker 3: Bro And and I didn't tell you. I meant to

2628
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:19,960
Speaker 3: text you, but did they tell you? They played your

2629
02:01:20,080 --> 02:01:24,400
Speaker 3: video before our game? So Brooster was telling me, telling

2630
02:01:24,480 --> 02:01:24,960
Speaker 3: me about that.

2631
02:01:25,160 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 1: But the video me, uh, you just.

2632
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:30,480
Speaker 3: Talking and bro that Twitter. That shit was so amazing.

2633
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:34,160
Speaker 3: It was so inspiring, like to see like how like

2634
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:36,800
Speaker 3: how much the guys loved you and how much you

2635
02:01:36,920 --> 02:01:40,080
Speaker 3: love like the fellas, Like that's what ball is really about.

2636
02:01:40,440 --> 02:01:42,200
Speaker 3: Like even though you weren't with us, like I still

2637
02:01:42,280 --> 02:01:44,440
Speaker 3: felt like you were still connected, like.

2638
02:01:44,520 --> 02:01:47,320
Speaker 1: To the squad. So why ye are? You kind of

2639
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:49,040
Speaker 1: explained why? But the reason you said you hate one

2640
02:01:49,080 --> 02:01:53,600
Speaker 1: besides you stands you up and you hate that. I'm

2641
02:01:53,720 --> 02:01:56,360
Speaker 1: sitting as what you're saying right now, I'm appreciating and

2642
02:01:56,440 --> 02:01:58,560
Speaker 1: seeing it, like damn, you can just tell that motherfucker's

2643
02:01:58,640 --> 02:02:02,000
Speaker 1: like job with this dude. And you feel kind of

2644
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:04,600
Speaker 1: like when Foster told me that, it's like, damn, you

2645
02:02:04,640 --> 02:02:06,240
Speaker 1: don't know how guys are gonna take because they're showing

2646
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:07,840
Speaker 1: some video and I'm on Twitter, you know what I mean.

2647
02:02:07,880 --> 02:02:11,040
Speaker 1: It's not like I was in front of y'all, but

2648
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:14,120
Speaker 1: hearing that, like it's like the seed the roles kind

2649
02:02:14,160 --> 02:02:17,880
Speaker 1: of switched, right. You kind of feel vulnerable a little

2650
02:02:17,880 --> 02:02:21,920
Speaker 1: bit of forniness of damn, they're kind of showing they're

2651
02:02:21,920 --> 02:02:24,040
Speaker 1: showing that. But that was when Foster told me that was.

2652
02:02:25,040 --> 02:02:27,600
Speaker 1: I was. I was hyped to know that the reaction

2653
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:29,520
Speaker 1: was good because I was like, damn what everybody kind

2654
02:02:29,560 --> 02:02:34,920
Speaker 1: of it was perfect? It's perfect. That's fucking awesome, dude.

2655
02:02:36,600 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. I wish you guys would have fucking

2656
02:02:38,240 --> 02:02:42,880
Speaker 1: won that game though. Oh they went to the super Bowl,

2657
02:02:43,040 --> 02:02:45,200
Speaker 1: so that shows that we could have been in the

2658
02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:47,960
Speaker 1: super Bowl. And what's crazy. What's crazy is divine. When

2659
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:51,560
Speaker 1: I was a concussion and he didn't return, so I

2660
02:02:51,600 --> 02:02:54,320
Speaker 1: could have been alive back with the fellows that next week. Bro,

2661
02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:59,040
Speaker 1: when that happened and it says he wasn't returning, I wasn't. Like,

2662
02:02:59,200 --> 02:03:01,560
Speaker 1: I'm obviously know I hope nothing's wrong with his head

2663
02:03:01,600 --> 02:03:03,600
Speaker 1: and stuff like that. I'm thinking he's gonna have to

2664
02:03:03,600 --> 02:03:06,040
Speaker 1: go through protocols. Hey, I'm gonna be back in this thing.

2665
02:03:06,760 --> 02:03:11,040
Speaker 1: And we would have played the Titans too. Mmmm. It

2666
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:14,920
Speaker 1: would have been a lot of fun though, but uh well,

2667
02:03:14,920 --> 02:03:17,480
Speaker 1: I hope you make it up to uh you, Garrett.

2668
02:03:17,600 --> 02:03:19,920
Speaker 1: He's a huge Titans guy. I mean, I am. I

2669
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:21,920
Speaker 1: love the boys, I'm big. I'm for the Boys. But

2670
02:03:22,000 --> 02:03:24,040
Speaker 1: if I'm on the Raiders like I got, I got

2671
02:03:24,120 --> 02:03:27,560
Speaker 1: her came back the past he's a monster. Bro, I

2672
02:03:27,800 --> 02:03:31,080
Speaker 1: like the same injury he had, same he broke. Did

2673
02:03:31,080 --> 02:03:33,600
Speaker 1: he break his fifth fifth minutitar? So did you get

2674
02:03:33,640 --> 02:03:37,000
Speaker 1: a screw pu in? I did too, He he didn't. Really,

2675
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:39,480
Speaker 1: That's what the grace I'm giving us because he came

2676
02:03:39,520 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 1: back as fast as he came back, and I'm like, bro, well,

2677
02:03:43,080 --> 02:03:45,440
Speaker 1: I was grinding to come back. But there's like the

2678
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:48,240
Speaker 1: way you have to be a running back and comeback

2679
02:03:48,280 --> 02:03:50,840
Speaker 1: because I we could function playing linebacker, but you're still

2680
02:03:51,000 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 1: very uncomfortable playing on an injury like that. How long

2681
02:03:54,040 --> 02:03:56,160
Speaker 1: would you take you? It took me. I was back.

2682
02:03:56,240 --> 02:03:58,760
Speaker 1: It was in college, so you know how college tries

2683
02:03:58,760 --> 02:04:00,520
Speaker 1: to get you back on the field. I was back

2684
02:04:00,600 --> 02:04:02,839
Speaker 1: in eight weeks, but I had a steel plate underneath

2685
02:04:02,920 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 1: my foot and it was the most uncomfortable thing. I

2686
02:04:05,880 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 1: should like, you know, you just feel like you about

2687
02:04:07,680 --> 02:04:10,440
Speaker 1: to snap again. Yeah, I would have if I'm like

2688
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:12,400
Speaker 1: where I'm at now or in the league and stuff

2689
02:04:12,440 --> 02:04:15,400
Speaker 1: like you need a good ten twelve weeks. But he

2690
02:04:15,560 --> 02:04:17,120
Speaker 1: had like a plate put in. He just had a

2691
02:04:17,200 --> 02:04:19,960
Speaker 1: stress fracture and it wasn't a clean break. He didn't

2692
02:04:20,000 --> 02:04:22,280
Speaker 1: have a compound break to where it snapped oh, okay, okay.

2693
02:04:22,680 --> 02:04:24,360
Speaker 1: When yours happened, it felt like somebody shot you in

2694
02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:25,920
Speaker 1: the foot, right, yeah, and I heard it. It's like

2695
02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:29,400
Speaker 1: it's dad gets painful by the end of the night.

2696
02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:29,520
Speaker 4: Bro.

2697
02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:34,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, just two legends up here talking ball. No. I

2698
02:04:34,720 --> 02:04:36,800
Speaker 1: appreciate you man, good luck and uh, I hope you

2699
02:04:36,920 --> 02:04:38,480
Speaker 1: drive safe back off to Memphis and or everything. But

2700
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:42,280
Speaker 1: I truly appreciate you coming by the bus. I'm glad

2701
02:04:42,320 --> 02:04:43,440
Speaker 1: you got to come on. And I know I was

2702
02:04:43,480 --> 02:04:46,160
Speaker 1: badgering you all season, like, hey, when that all season comes,

2703
02:04:46,200 --> 02:04:48,120
Speaker 1: you gotta come on. But I have a lot of

2704
02:04:48,160 --> 02:04:51,160
Speaker 1: respect for you, man. I appreciate you coming on. Thank you, brother,