1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 2: Welcome in our number one Clay Travis, our number one 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 2: of the week Buck Sexton Show. We appreciate all of 5 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 2: you hanging out with us and Buck, are you ready 6 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 2: for a called shot to start the week here. I 7 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 2: am embarrassed by how much time I have spent looking 8 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 2: into all of these irs whistleblower allegations, and how much 9 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 2: time I have spent contemplating the impact over the entirety 10 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 2: of the weekend. I tried to read everything that I could, 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 2: and I know that there's probably a lot of people 12 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: out there, Buck, who are super busy, and all of 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 2: the names and the dates and everything else kind of 14 00:00:49,760 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 2: are swimming in the head, and it can be hard 15 00:00:52,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: to keep on tap with all this. Just be totally 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 2: well informed. I'm going to do my best to try 17 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,520 Speaker 2: to lay out out a fairly simple case here of 18 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 2: exactly what happened and why it's so consequential. But I'm 19 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:11,640 Speaker 2: going to give you my conclusion first, and then like 20 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 2: back in the day, I'll show you my math You remember, Buck, 21 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,639 Speaker 2: when you'd have to be in math class and maybe 22 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 2: you knew what the end result answer was supposed to be, 23 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 2: but you would get deemed because your teacher would look 24 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 2: at it and she'd break out the red pin and 25 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 2: she'd be like, show the work so you could get 26 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:31,360 Speaker 2: I just should drive me crazy in geometry, like, Okay, 27 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 2: we know what Iawceles triangle is, but you have to 28 00:01:35,000 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 2: prove that that you can get to the right result. 29 00:01:38,680 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 2: I'm going to show my work, but I'm going to 30 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:46,120 Speaker 2: start with the conclusion. In my opinion, Buck, Joe Biden 31 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:48,520 Speaker 2: will not be the nominee in twenty twenty four. 32 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 3: WHOA, oh, buddy, that is the conclusion. This is intense. 33 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 1: This ALI make sure we flag this. 34 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: I am going on the record on Monday, June twenty sixth, 35 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, and god forbid if I have to 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: show up on November ninth, twenty twenty four or something 37 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 2: and Joe Biden's been re elected President of the United States, 38 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: because that will be a dark day for all of us. 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 2: I do not believe, Buck, based on all of my 40 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 2: diving into these stories, I don't believe that they're going 41 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 2: to be able to put forward Joe Biden as the 42 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 2: nominee in twenty twenty four. Now, I think that he 43 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 2: probably will cite health as the reason age health, it's 44 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:37,679 Speaker 2: time for a new generation. 45 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 1: He's going to make it sound like it is his choice. 46 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 2: But Buck, I believe that what has been alleged against 47 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:53,280 Speaker 2: Joe Biden is the most consequential abuse of power by 48 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 2: a president in my life. I was not alive for 49 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: all of you out there during Richard Nixon tenyure as president. 50 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: We're gonna need a fact check on that. 51 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, Buck thinks I'm eighty two. He thinks that Joe 52 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 2: Biden and I were classmates at Syracuse Law School back 53 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 2: in the day. I would have been a much better 54 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 2: student than he was at Syracuse Law School if I'd 55 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 2: been there with him. 56 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 1: By the way, so most of you. 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:21,919 Speaker 2: But I believe that since nineteen eighty, since basically Buck 58 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,519 Speaker 2: was born in the last two generations, I was born 59 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 2: in seventy nine, in my life, there has never been 60 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: a more flagrant violation of the law. And I do 61 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: believe there are criminal there's criminal behavior here by a 62 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 2: sitting United States president than what has happened with Joe Biden, 63 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 2: so as it pertains to Hunter. 64 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:46,760 Speaker 3: So here's I'm gonna give you the counterpoint. Now, yep, 65 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 3: because I still believe that Joe Biden is going to 66 00:03:49,360 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: get pushed across the when as I pushed across the 67 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: finish line, that would mean he wins, but that he 68 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 3: will be the nominee, and that on election day in 69 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 3: eighteen months or less than that now that it will 70 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 3: be Joe Biden on the ticket barring a real We've 71 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: always said there's the wild called the true healthy situation, 72 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 3: which is, you know, we don't, we don't, Heaven forbid, 73 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 3: but that's possible always at someone at that age. 74 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 75 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 3: And here's why everything and I read I'm sure you 76 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 3: saw the Wall Street Journal breakdown of it. It's it 77 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,440 Speaker 3: is just tax evasion piled And that's what I said 78 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:25,360 Speaker 3: all along, that the tax evasion here was the most 79 00:04:25,400 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: obvious stuff imaginable. And to bring that down to a 80 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 3: failure to file misdemeanor, you know, this is like saying, oh, 81 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,760 Speaker 3: it wasn't an armed robbery. You know, it was somebody 82 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: who just like took a pack of gum without paying 83 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: for it at the drug store. Like it's a totally 84 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 3: different stratosphere of seriousness. And here's but here's what I 85 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 3: would say, because and I'm i wouldn't like I wouldn't 86 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,359 Speaker 3: bet I don't know, I don't you know, own the 87 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 3: house that I live in, but I wouldn't bet the farm, 88 00:04:53,160 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 3: so to speak. On this one, I'm still pretty confident 89 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 3: in it. Here's why, Clay. It all turns into it's alleged, 90 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:04,239 Speaker 3: not proven. And while bidens president will not be proven 91 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 3: because the DOJ would have to do this the statute 92 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 3: of limitations. They ran the clock out, which we will 93 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 3: talk about here, so that means it's over. That means 94 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: it's done. Even if you had a hard charging federal 95 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: prosecutor who said, all right, that's it, we're gonna finally 96 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 3: get justice against Hunter, can't do it under the law, 97 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 3: doesn't have the right to do it under the law. 98 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 3: For the most serious ones, which we're going to talk about. 99 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 3: The lesser ones he could go after, but that's already 100 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 3: been dealt with. When I say dealt with, I mean 101 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 3: you know the fix is in on that. And you 102 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 3: have to remember the white noise that comes into play 103 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 3: here with anything that we say about about Biden. They're 104 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,160 Speaker 3: going to say, look at Trump, multiple felony and multiple 105 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 3: felony indictments. Now, this is unjust. It's gross, it's wrong, 106 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 3: but I think they still run this out. Well, now 107 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,599 Speaker 3: do you want to get into like what it is 108 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 3: and it'll all start. 109 00:05:56,640 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: Yeah. 110 00:05:56,960 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: Now I'll start showing my work. And by the way, 111 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 2: let me go ahead and open up. I'll have having 112 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: a guest schedule today. Eight hundred and two A two 113 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:08,560 Speaker 2: two eight eight two smart questions right about these allegations 114 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 2: coming out from the IRS whistleblower. That's what I'm asking 115 00:06:11,520 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 2: for maybe lawyers out there, because I think a big 116 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 2: part of this and I'll go ahead and toss it out. 117 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:16,760 Speaker 1: Buck. 118 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 2: I think that the federal judge who is slated to 119 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: accept Hunter Biden's plea bargain in this case should reject 120 00:06:27,320 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 2: the plea bargain. The judge has the discretion to do 121 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 2: this because there is clear evidence of obstruction of justice, 122 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:38,480 Speaker 2: which means that this was not a fair and impartial investigation. 123 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 2: So and one of our staff, if they can look 124 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 2: up this guy's name I hate or girl. I think 125 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 2: it's a guy I hate to even you know, put 126 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 2: his name on blast here, but he needs to, and 127 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 2: I believe it's a he. 128 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: Refused to accept. 129 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: This obstruction, this this plea agreement because there's been clear, 130 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 2: clear obstruction, and Buck, I actually think so let me 131 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:08,880 Speaker 2: going back to showing the work. There is a fabulous 132 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 2: editorial in the Wall Street Journal that I would encourage 133 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 2: all of you to read, laying out the clear tax 134 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 2: crimes committed by Hunter Biden. I don't actually as much 135 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 2: want to focus on that because it's clear that he 136 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: got a sweetheart deal. I think Buck, the sweetheart deal 137 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 2: that he got is actually the story here because I 138 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: believe there was a clear obstruction of justice and lying 139 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 2: that occurred at the very top of the Department of 140 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:48,920 Speaker 2: Justice with Merrick Garland. I think that Merrick Garland has 141 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 2: likely committed perjury as it pertains to his testimony in 142 00:07:53,640 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: front of Congress surrounding Hunter Biden. I think that Joe Biden, 143 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 2: while he has not yet been put under oath, should 144 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:04,239 Speaker 2: be put under oath because I think this whole idea 145 00:08:04,320 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 2: that he wasn't involved in any of Hunter's business dealings 146 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: has now been blown up. And the way that I 147 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 2: would ask that we think about this is Buck, I 148 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: jotted down a bunch of notes and I just want 149 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 2: to but I just want to start on this. This 150 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,800 Speaker 2: uh Gary Shapley, he is the irs whistleblower who went 151 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: to the House Ways and Means Committee and has now 152 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 2: testified under oath alongside of one of his fellow IRS employees, 153 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: about exactly what was said in meetings, in particular that 154 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: David Weiss, who was the US attorney investigating this case, 155 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 2: wanted to bring cases in both California and Washington d C. 156 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: Against Hunter Biden was shot down in both of those jurisdictions, 157 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 2: and that he also requested special council status and that 158 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 2: Merrick Garland refuse to grant him that special council status. 159 00:09:03,160 --> 00:09:06,360 Speaker 2: These are the allegations of Gary Shapley, which are supported 160 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:10,479 Speaker 2: by emails sent in October of twenty twenty two immediately 161 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 2: after this October of twenty twenty two meeting. He has 162 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 2: provided names, he's provided dates, He's provided full information to 163 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: support his allegations, as well as a subordinate witness. So, Buck, 164 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: what I would start with is this, why do people lie? 165 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: There's a broad question for everybody out there listening. Why 166 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 2: do people lie? Usually, Buck, someone lies because they want 167 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:42,000 Speaker 2: to protect themselves from the consequences of their actual actions, 168 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 2: or because a lie benefits them based on the lie 169 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 2: giving them more money, giving them more status giving them 170 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 2: something to gain. In other words, it is very rare 171 00:09:56,000 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 2: that someone lies without either a protection mechanism or a 172 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 2: benefit under which they will gain. Let me ask you this, 173 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: Gary Shapley, this IRS whistleblower, what does he gain here? 174 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: Think about this buck. 175 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 2: He voluntarily spoke under oath to tell his story. If 176 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 2: Gary Shapley, this IRS agent, were lying, he would have 177 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: opened himself up to perjury charges. But can you think 178 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 2: of someone who has basically waved his arm as widely 179 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:37,719 Speaker 2: as he can, drawn as much attention to himself as 180 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 2: he could, and then said, oh, please put me under 181 00:10:41,200 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: oath and let me risk perjury charges to tell you 182 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 2: a lie? 183 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: Who's lying? Is the number one question here. 184 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 3: Everything that you're laying out is true, and yet it 185 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 3: all fundamentally rests on a faith in the system that 186 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 3: I do not believe any of us should have anymore. 187 00:10:57,559 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 3: This is the you still believe that the law works. 188 00:11:01,880 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 3: I'm sitting here to tell you that the whole reason 189 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,559 Speaker 3: were even where we are. 190 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: At this stage is because the fix is in. They 191 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: won't allow this to go any For Clinton. 192 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 3: Hillary, Hillary Clinton broke the law blatantly while she was 193 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 3: running for president. It couldn't have been any more obvious. 194 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,360 Speaker 3: And the FBI director pulled this bizarre national conference to 195 00:11:25,400 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 3: say nobody would prosecute her, and then the Democrat DOJ 196 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 3: was like, well if the FBI director, who's not even 197 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 3: a prosecutor, I mean, we could go all the way 198 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: back to Bill Clinton lying under oath. 199 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 1: I just what you are saying. I get it. 200 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: It's like you're laying out the prosecution's case here and 201 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: it is ironclad. 202 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 1: But it doesn't matter. They don't care. 203 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 3: There's nothing that can be done to force the prosecution 204 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 3: of Hunter. 205 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: That's where this That's why he did. The guy didn't. 206 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 3: That's why wife's didn't get special counsel appointment. That's why 207 00:11:56,600 --> 00:11:59,319 Speaker 3: that was so critical. He knew he needed that because 208 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: as long as he has to say, mother, may I 209 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 3: up the. 210 00:12:02,040 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: Chain, it doesn't go anywhere. Okay, you're right, I have 211 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: still faith. You still have faith, which I appreciate. I 212 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: still have faith. 213 00:12:11,840 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: And here's why I have faith, Buck, because I think 214 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 2: America is filled with Gary Shapley's Gary like, I don't 215 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 2: know this guy at all, all right, and you know, 216 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 2: I'm sure that he's gonna get savaged the likes of 217 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 2: which you haven't seen anybody savaged. If this guy had 218 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 2: a parking ticket in his past history, if anybody ever 219 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 2: said Gary Shapley even noticed that a woman was good 220 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 2: looking in the irs office, He's gonna get savaged because 221 00:12:38,920 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 2: the Democrats and their friends in the media are going 222 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:43,680 Speaker 2: to go through everything this guy has done in his 223 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:47,200 Speaker 2: entire career to try to discredit him. Okay, but Buck, 224 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:52,240 Speaker 2: he's got the receipts. He's got the receipts, and him 225 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 2: coming forward as he has his story is so compelling 226 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: that I think it cuts through a lot of the 227 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 2: noise here, and it ultimately leads to this question, who's 228 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: the liar. Somebody's lying right these stories, it's impossible for 229 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 2: them to both be true. 230 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 3: The only check on all of this they are lying. 231 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 3: We know they are lying. But Clay, we've known they 232 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 3: were lying all along. I remember when this stuff about 233 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 3: Barrisma first broke. I was working at the Hill and 234 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: John Solomon broke some of these initial stories. There was 235 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 3: he was a colleague of mine there. I was sitting 236 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 3: in the office when he was getting some of these 237 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 3: faxes and some of this information and some of this 238 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 3: stuff was coming through to him. And nothing has changed 239 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 3: in all of those years. They ran out the clock 240 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 3: on the statute. So I sit here and think the 241 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:51,839 Speaker 3: only real check on all of this is beating the Democrats. 242 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: That's it. This is a little bit like Ben Gozbi 243 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 1: all over. The election is the check on this. 244 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 3: If we are hoping that judges and prosecutors are going 245 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: to save us from the corruption of the Democrat machine, 246 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,600 Speaker 3: we're going to be hoping for many, many decades in vain. 247 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: It's not okay. 248 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 2: That's also buck why I think, and I know that 249 00:14:14,360 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: a lot of the House Republicans listen, and their leadership 250 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:21,920 Speaker 2: just trust me on this. You one billion percent have 251 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 2: to open full on impeachment hearings on and impeach him, 252 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: on Merrick Garland and on Joe Biden, and you have 253 00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: to have prime time hearings laying out all of this evidence, 254 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: just like they did on January sixth. 255 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: Totally agree with that. 256 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 3: That's that's where this is now a political all out 257 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 3: battle the legal process in my opinion. Now, I know 258 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 3: the judge still has to accept the plea deal, and 259 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,040 Speaker 3: there are a couple of things. There are some hail 260 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 3: Mary's for justice here at the end, but the political 261 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: process is the only means of achieving any justice for 262 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: the corruption from the very highest level. 263 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: That Look, we didn't even get it. We should get 264 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: into more of these details. 265 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Joe Biden, they were running a straight up influence 266 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: pedaling operation to the Chinese Communist Party, everybody to them 267 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,400 Speaker 3: if you were trying to pick other than Russia, right, 268 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 3: But I mean, realistically, the country that we should be 269 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 3: the most concerned about getting access and influence at the 270 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: top of government and their whole Oh Joe Biden wasn't 271 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: in office. Then the whole point is he's a former 272 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 3: vice president. Every Democrat will take his call, every Senator 273 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:33,560 Speaker 3: on the Foreign Relations Committee will take his call. 274 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: That's what they were selling. That's the whole point. It 275 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 1: is corrupt, even if the law can't be applied. 276 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 3: So let's come back because the details, I will say 277 00:15:44,240 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 3: even I mean, this is the Hunter stuff and the 278 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: Joe Biden stuff is even more gross than a lot 279 00:15:49,760 --> 00:15:51,920 Speaker 3: of us had thought. And we thought it was gross 280 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 3: for years. Let's get back into this in a second. 281 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:56,400 Speaker 3: We'll take your calls on this. Look, Claiy very well 282 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 3: could be right here. Maybe there's something at the last 283 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: minute that comes through legally. But I think we both agree. 284 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 3: Why not impeach Why not impeach Joe Biden over this? 285 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: Why not impeach Carlin? Both of them have to be 286 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: What is I mean, what is the rationale to not 287 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 3: do that? I'm curious. We'll get back to this in 288 00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 3: a second. Over the weekend, there are a fair number 289 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: of rallies on both sides of the abortion debate. Some 290 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:20,600 Speaker 3: celebrated the positive effects of the one year anniversary of 291 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court's decision to turn Roe v. Wade to 292 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 3: the individual states. 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They'd have to get to 345 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 2: sixty seven votes. Not gonna happen. But the primetime hearings 346 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 2: and the store that would be able to be told 347 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:30,400 Speaker 2: would be significant. Here is Speaker Kevin McCarthy saying, Hey, 348 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 2: we're starting the process of impeaching Merrick Garland. 349 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 4: Listen, yesterday I laid out very very clearly by July sixth, 350 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 4: because of the allegations from the IRS, because of the 351 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 4: whistleblowers and the DOJ Garland, what he is saying and 352 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 4: what David Weiss are saying privately are two different things. 353 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 4: And if it comes true what the IRS whistleblower is saying, 354 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:55,120 Speaker 4: we're going to start impeachment inquiries on the Attorney. 355 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Gen Okay, So that to me is a no brainer. 356 00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 3: I mean, can we just both the IRS whistleblowers talking 357 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 3: is speaking the truth? Folks, There's there's the IRS whistleblower 358 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 3: is speaking the truth. There's no reason to believe that, 359 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 3: as you said, he would lie, right, There's yeah. 360 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 2: I mean, I think at its most basic level, who 361 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 2: is likely to be telling the truth and who is 362 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 2: likely to be lying, And almost always the person who 363 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 2: is lying has an incentive to be lying. Right, There's 364 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 2: no incentive that I can see under which Gary Shipley Shapley, 365 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,200 Speaker 2: this IRS agent would be lying. In fact, Buck, he's 366 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 2: opened himself up to criminal prosecution by voluntarily testifying under. 367 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: Oath as to his story. 368 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 2: But let's go back, because we said we were going 369 00:20:44,440 --> 00:20:47,959 Speaker 2: to share a couple of the details here as it 370 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 2: pertains to Hunter Biden and exactly what he was doing 371 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:58,719 Speaker 2: with these With these tax returns, Wall Street Journal editorial 372 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:05,880 Speaker 2: points out Biden expensed a prostitute on his tax returns. 373 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: He claimed that prostitute was a quote Buck West Coast assistant, which, 374 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 2: to be fair, maybe she was West Coast assisting. 375 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: He did no. 376 00:21:18,600 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 3: Hunter is an artist, so apparently he's also quite creative 377 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 3: in his writing. 378 00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 2: He also deducted ten thousand dollars for a golf club 379 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 2: member deposit, and that money actually quote went to pay 380 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:41,879 Speaker 2: for a sex club. So Joe Biden son Hunter attempted 381 00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: to expense a prostitute and a sex club. Also, Buck, 382 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,959 Speaker 2: I haven't seen this talked about as much. He deducted 383 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 2: his entire child's tuition payment at Columbia University from his 384 00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 2: taxes as well, something that to be fair. I imagine a 385 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,080 Speaker 2: lot of you out there who are paying for tuition 386 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 2: to college or private school for that matter, would love 387 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: to be able to do it. 388 00:22:06,520 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 3: Can we play a game for a second, because I 389 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: think this will really put it all into perspective. If 390 00:22:12,760 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 3: you were trying to be remember Michael Cohen, the Trump's lawyer, 391 00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,040 Speaker 3: and people are talking about who is the worst lawyer 392 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 3: in America Michael Cohen or Avenatti? Right, and it was 393 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 3: it was it was close. Avanati went to federal prison. 394 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 3: If you were trying to be the worst accountant in 395 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:34,920 Speaker 3: America telling your client, hey, right off your sex club visits, 396 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,680 Speaker 3: I think that's pretty that's pretty high level awful, do 397 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? That's right off your prostitutes 398 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 3: and your sex club visits as some form of business 399 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 3: expense that the federal government should be picking. 400 00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: Up for you. 401 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,680 Speaker 3: This isn't gray area stuff, right, This isn't because because 402 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 3: you know, taxes, there's complexity, and there's you know, oh, 403 00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 3: well like is this a work trip or is this 404 00:22:55,160 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: a personal trip? Well, I did some work. You know, 405 00:22:56,840 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 3: we all know there's that stuff, right, This is the 406 00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 3: bright red line crossing of obvious law. 407 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 1: Now. I know there's always this impulse for a lot. 408 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 3: Of us who feel like the irs and the tax code, 409 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 3: the whole thing is kind of a sham and fine, 410 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 3: but if we're all supposed to live by these rules, 411 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: and if any Republican who did this would be sitting 412 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 3: in federal prison for years, that is the rule. 413 00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:25,640 Speaker 1: That is the standard. 414 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 3: If we do not have a uniform standard for this 415 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 3: kind of stuff, then we do not have the rule 416 00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:31,200 Speaker 3: of law. 417 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: Now. 418 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 3: I think what we've seen is we don't. But it 419 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: is important for us to detail for everybody why what 420 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 3: really happened here, so that the political check on all 421 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 3: of this becomes more likely. I would hope, I would 422 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 3: hope that people would look at this and say, hold 423 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,280 Speaker 3: on a second, this is just too much, you know 424 00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 3: what I mean? Like this is now showing that when 425 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 3: we talk about the Biden crime family, that's not some 426 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 3: right wing talking point. There was a criminal enterprise based 427 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 3: around the Biden name. Hunter Biden was at the very 428 00:24:03,640 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: center of it, and Joe Biden was in the background 429 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,199 Speaker 3: as the godfather of this thing. That's what was going on, 430 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: you know, It's also interesting, Buck, I was just talking 431 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,119 Speaker 3: about this the judge. 432 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:19,360 Speaker 1: I think this is why, this is why I. 433 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 2: Believe in many ways that Joe Biden is not going 434 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: to be the nominee. I think it's moved from a 435 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: argument that could be made by someone and it's a 436 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: reasonable argument, right, you could say, and they've tried to 437 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: make this argument Hunter was on drugs and Joe Biden 438 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 2: wasn't in office and he didn't actually really have that 439 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 2: much control and it was just kind of messy, and 440 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,679 Speaker 2: Hunter is now like, that's the argument they tried to make, right. 441 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,479 Speaker 2: They tried to turn the laptop. Democrats did from a 442 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:58,119 Speaker 2: story of the Biden crime family trading access to China Ukraine. Remember, Buck, 443 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: they impeached Donald Trump the first time for asking Ukraine 444 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 2: to look into what now we know were clear criminal 445 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 2: behavior by Hunter Biden. They impeached Trump. Impeachment one was 446 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 2: for Trump raising the issue of Hunter Biden's criminal complicity 447 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: as it pertained to Ukraine in particular. 448 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,880 Speaker 3: Well, now you understand here, Now you understand the ferocity 449 00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:33,879 Speaker 3: of the response because it was all true when Trump 450 00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 3: was speaking to Zelenski. Remember this, Zelenzi's gotten a whole 451 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,399 Speaker 3: lot more famous and central to the global news cycle 452 00:25:41,440 --> 00:25:43,399 Speaker 3: than he was then. But when he was speaking to 453 00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,199 Speaker 3: Zelenski about this, he's like, can you look into the 454 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 3: Hunter stuff? Because Hunter was part of a criminal conspiracy 455 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 3: rooted through Ukraine as well as China as well as Romania. 456 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 3: And notice how the whole thing with Trump they're saying 457 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,640 Speaker 3: now is no one's above the law. Oh, I'm sorry, 458 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 3: the sun of Joe Biden is above the law because 459 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: it looks bad for Democrats. That's not the rule, that's 460 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 3: not the way it's supposed to be. So you know, 461 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 3: this is gonna this is gonna get more intense and 462 00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 3: it's gonna get uglier because the Democrats have been appalling 463 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 3: with this whole Biden fiasco all along. 464 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 1: It's actually looking a lot. This is crazy. 465 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 3: It's looking worse than the Hillary stuff, which I thought, right, 466 00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 3: who thought you'd be able to say that? 467 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:29,639 Speaker 5: Though? 468 00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 1: I think, Buck, I think it's worse than Watergate. 469 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 2: I mean, I think when you look at all of 470 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 2: these allegations, and I will be the first to admit 471 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 2: I am not an expert in every integral aspect of Watergate, right, 472 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,760 Speaker 2: I'm trying to turn myself into as much of an 473 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:49,080 Speaker 2: expert on this Biden situation as I can be, because 474 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: it's very complicated. There are a lot of different tendrils, 475 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 2: and it's important for us talking to you to be 476 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: able to understand all the nuances. Let me hit this 477 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,639 Speaker 2: two buck, but I think it's worse than Watergate. I 478 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 2: think we when you consider the impact. Let me just 479 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:06,760 Speaker 2: sketch thirty seconds of why it's worse than the Watergate. Ultimately, 480 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:12,120 Speaker 2: Watergate was just a sloppy break in that in its 481 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: larger context, had zero impact on the nineteen seventy two 482 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,399 Speaker 2: presidential election. That is, Nixon was going to triumph in 483 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 2: a monster way in nineteen seventy two, whether these knuckleheads 484 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: broke in at the Watergate complex or not. 485 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: Right, if you look at. 486 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 2: Twenty twenty and you look up at all of the 487 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,959 Speaker 2: cover up that has surrounded the Biden crime family, you 488 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 2: can clearly argue that Biden rigged the election and all 489 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 2: of his compatriots did, and that the FBI the Department 490 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 2: of Justice have been directly implicated in further rigging everything 491 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,520 Speaker 2: since he became president. To try to protect Hunter Biden 492 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: from the consequences of his own actions, which is why 493 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 2: I think and we mentioned this to start. I want 494 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,359 Speaker 2: to make sure I get her name right. The US 495 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 2: district judge who has to approve this plea agreement for 496 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden. Her name is Mary Ellen Noriyaika, and I 497 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,480 Speaker 2: may be mispronouncing that she is and I looked her up. 498 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,199 Speaker 2: She is a Trump appointee. She is a graduate of 499 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: Lehigh University, Columbia, got her master's or law degree from 500 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: the University of Pittsburgh. She assumed office in twenty eighteen. 501 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 2: Was appointed by Donald Trump District Court for the District 502 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 2: of Delaware. 503 00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: This is her case. 504 00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:48,080 Speaker 2: She cannot cannot sign off on this plea agreement based 505 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 2: on the allegations of obstruction surrounding this clear evidence that 506 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 2: this plea agreement should not be accepted. She should, based 507 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 2: on the law, reject this and send it back and 508 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 2: say I cannot in good conscious now, So. 509 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 3: Kind I give you two problems. You're going to give 510 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:09,480 Speaker 3: you two problems. One, what you saw with the whole 511 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 3: Hunter saga. They knew what they were doing. They ran 512 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 3: the clock out on the statute and there's nothing that 513 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 3: can be done about that. On some of the most 514 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 3: serious tax evasion charges, statutes run you know if you're 515 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 3: going to undo statutes of limitations, I mean, that's gonna 516 00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,360 Speaker 3: create Now Democrats have done that in some places at 517 00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 3: some times. 518 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 2: But look, you could make an argument if there was 519 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: obstruction and there was criminal behavior that Hunter Biden was 520 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 2: complicit in. You can't engage just tossing it out there. 521 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: You can't engage in criminal behavior yourself, which allows the 522 00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 2: statute of put to run. 523 00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 3: But just at the government moving slowly, the government moving 524 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 3: slowly and inefficiently, you're never going to be You're just 525 00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,520 Speaker 3: never be able to prove that. There's never we know, 526 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,240 Speaker 3: but you can't prove it, so it's not going to matter. 527 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 3: And then think of the pressure. And this is what 528 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 3: I said about twenty twenty with all the different election challenges. 529 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 3: I was like, it's not that they're you know, it 530 00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 3: doesn't even matter how good or strong the challenges on 531 00:30:04,240 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 3: the merits, no judge is going to have the backbone. 532 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,400 Speaker 3: People don't want to hear that. Yeah, it turned out 533 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,000 Speaker 3: to be one hundred percent true in this case. Does 534 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 3: this judge is she willing think of the ferocity of 535 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 3: the Democrat response to this if she were to, They've 536 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 3: got a lot of ways of pressuring people and doing 537 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: things that make their lives miserable. Now that maybe I'm wrong, 538 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,920 Speaker 3: Maybe she sees the Republican of the balance. She should 539 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:32,520 Speaker 3: have the backbone. This is why in theory Buck judges 540 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:35,520 Speaker 3: have lifetime appointments. There's a lot of to dispate in 541 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: the debate and dispute about whether that should exist. 542 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 2: She is I'm looking at it right now. She is 543 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 2: only well, she's fifty six years old. She's fifty six 544 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 2: years old. If she cares about justice, she would say, 545 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 2: I'm not accepting this plea agreement. 546 00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, Inflation, my friends, is still high. And you know 547 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:58,880 Speaker 3: how you know this. 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We got 572 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 1: a lot of calls. 573 00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:19,640 Speaker 3: This is obviously a weighty topic here coming up for 574 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 3: the next hour. 575 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,400 Speaker 1: I do want to get into Florida. 576 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:25,640 Speaker 3: Governor Rond de Santis was at the border and he's 577 00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 3: laid out dare I say a comprehensive immigration strategy. It's 578 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: not reform in terms of amnesty, which is what generally 579 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: gets talked about it is the opposite of that. So 580 00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 3: we can break down for you what his proposals are. 581 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 3: Immigration certain to be a major issue for Republicans, not 582 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: just in the primary but also in the general. And 583 00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:49,720 Speaker 3: I wanted to get to Oh, maybe we'll talk a 584 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:54,040 Speaker 3: little bit about this Putin coup that didn't actually go 585 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 3: through over the weekend, Progosion. We haven't talked a lot 586 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 3: about Ukraine on the show, mostly because there's a war 587 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,600 Speaker 3: going on over there. We're funding the Ukrainian side of it, 588 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,600 Speaker 3: and not much really changes day to day other than 589 00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 3: continued bloodshed, chaos and destruction, changes in the sense of 590 00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 3: major areas of control. But the Wagner Group or Wagner 591 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 3: depends on who you. Wagner Group looked like it was 592 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: marching towards Moscow. People are saying it was going to 593 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 3: be a coup. Some of us saw this over the 594 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 3: weekend and we're like, we don't know what's going on here. 595 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,120 Speaker 3: It turns out they stopped and decided that they were 596 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 3: going to do something else. 597 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: Progosion. Putin Chef he used. 598 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 3: To be known as, is actually in Belarus now in 599 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,719 Speaker 3: something of a self imposed exile there. So we can 600 00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:41,600 Speaker 3: get into more of this, but I wanted to get 601 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 3: to your calls clan. 602 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: I want to hear from you. 603 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 3: David in Charleston, South Carolina, one of my favorite cities. 604 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: David, what's going on? 605 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:55,800 Speaker 5: Well, good evening, dual megadittos to all of y'all. Thank you, 606 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 5: thank you for what you do. Quick question, what why 607 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 5: cannot the that rabid federal prosecutor go after the Biden 608 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 5: crime family for treason, which I don't believe has a 609 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 5: statute of limitations. And the other thing is I really 610 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,640 Speaker 5: missed the statue of city ads. 611 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:21,160 Speaker 3: Oh so in terms of treason, there is no statute 612 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 3: to limitations. The chance of anyone bringing a trees in 613 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:27,760 Speaker 3: charge against the Bidens is effectively well while Bidens president 614 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 3: is zero. 615 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: So I also buck it would be an actual hard 616 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 2: case to prove right, because what would be the I mean, you. 617 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 3: Can in comfort to the enemy in a time of war. 618 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 3: That's not happening here. So treason is not the right. 619 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: There's treason in the legal context, and treason is the 620 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 3: concept of betraying your country. You can argue the latter here, 621 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 3: but on a purely legalistic sense, a letter of a 622 00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 3: law sense, this doesn't amount to treason. This is bribery, 623 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:56,480 Speaker 3: it's tax evasion, it's Pharaoh registration violation. If there's a 624 00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:59,719 Speaker 3: number of crowd, it's money laundering, it's wire fraud. 625 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: There's a lot, there's plenty. 626 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 3: But but I don't think you'll get a treason charge 627 00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 3: from anybody on this one. 628 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: Pastor Chuck in Shawnee, Oklahoma. What's going on, Pastor Chuck. 629 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 6: I have some thoughts about this critical race theory. It 630 00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:20,440 Speaker 6: is proven through the Biden family there is, and we 631 00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 6: can see the evidence that there is. Why elitist, you know, 632 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,200 Speaker 6: and they're talking about white privilege? 633 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 5: What is it? 634 00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:31,520 Speaker 6: If we are not looking at it? 635 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: But why doesn't Donald Trump have it? There's a life. 636 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 1: I gotta tell you. 637 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,759 Speaker 3: I don't I don't agree with your analysis, Pastor Chuck. 638 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 3: I don't understand what you're saying. Thank you for calling in. 639 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 3: If there was white privilege, Donald Trump would have the 640 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,040 Speaker 3: white privilege and he's facing decades in federal prison. 641 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 1: This doesn't make I'm not seeing that not to be disrespectful. 642 00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 2: If you could mock the idea, if white privilege truly existed, 643 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: then Hunter Biden would be reflective of it. 644 00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: But here's the thing, Hunter Biden is reflective of. 645 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:03,839 Speaker 3: Democrat privilege, yes, which is maybe that's what pastor Chuck 646 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 3: was getting at, and that I would co sign. 647 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: There is leftist Democrat privilege, no. 648 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,120 Speaker 2: Doubt, it's right up there, Buck, with hot girl privilege, 649 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,320 Speaker 2: at the very top of the privilege pyramid. 650 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: In my humble opinion. 651 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: We will both go out of this life, Clay, never 652 00:36:17,680 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 3: having experienced personally hot girl privilege. 653 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:23,680 Speaker 2: That is true, Well, I bet we've been taking advantage 654 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:27,840 Speaker 2: of through hot girl's average, as every heterosexual man listening 655 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 2: to this program can well attest. 656 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: We'd come back. We got a ton to get into. 657 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:36,720 Speaker 2: Will continue to break down all of this Biden crime family, Shenanigans, 658 00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: what happened in Russia, all that and more. 659 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 1: Keep hanging with us.