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Speaker 1: What's up? What the fucker's um, everybody, what's up? I'm

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Speaker 1: so already I'm George. Welcome to Stradio Lab. Maybe yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's time to tell at this point what this podcast

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Speaker 1: is called. This is the third time we've recorded, and

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Speaker 1: each time we only get more and more confused on

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Speaker 1: our point of view, and folks see a ridge of

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Speaker 1: definition and we go absolutely not. We shatter it immediately,

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Speaker 1: podcast is one of the easiest things on Earth, and

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Speaker 1: because it's so easy, it's actually hard in some ways.

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Speaker 1: This podcast is a season long, narrative, strict, very scripted

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Speaker 1: podcasting of the podcast. Yeah, I think the screenplay is

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Speaker 1: it still a screenplay descripted podcast? Whatever? The hardcover of

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Speaker 1: the screenplay is going to be flying off the damn

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Speaker 1: she had the screen and screenplay stands for podcasts. It

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Speaker 1: actually is about how it's audio based. So our options

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Speaker 1: are Stradio Lab or straighter things, which, um, you know,

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Speaker 1: actually I got some input. Somebody on my team actually

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Speaker 1: I've talked to has said straighter things makes more sense.

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Speaker 1: You're talking to some of the people on Earth. Okay,

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Speaker 1: interesting because our guest, who we haven't introduced yet is

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Speaker 1: That's why I didn't want to have her. So this podcast,

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Speaker 1: well we unpack the rich tapestry that is straight called

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Speaker 1: and our complicity within it. In fact, I remember kind

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Speaker 1: on our shared Google doc that we now cannot find.

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Speaker 1: It's lost to time. Really, I love the Google docs

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Speaker 1: built it up too much. I I'm not proud of

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Speaker 1: what I did subverting expectations and maybe that actually is

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Speaker 1: crazy is today I feel we are on fire. Absolutely. Well,

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Speaker 1: whole time, George, I'm talking about of course, yes, I've

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Speaker 1: out to Patty Salt Twitter, friend of mine. I'm pretty

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Speaker 1: how is your weekend? Oh my god, no, my weekend? Husband? Good? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: in ourselves, like and taking the power back versus still

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Speaker 1: just exploiting ourselves for the male gaze and giving them

426
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Speaker 1: what they want and for you know what I mean, Like,

427
00:24:21,560 --> 00:24:23,639
Speaker 1: it's just a hard lot of those a lot of

428
00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:28,280
Speaker 1: those um, younger comics that you're talking about kind of

429
00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:32,639
Speaker 1: play with that play with like with the way people

430
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:36,439
Speaker 1: perceive them, which and that's what drives the straight man crazy,

431
00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: like exactly, Well, I got into comedy to meet schlubs,

432
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:45,240
Speaker 1: and I think, um, you know, hot comedy is a scourge.

433
00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:49,880
Speaker 1: It is interesting someone who as someone who started comedy

434
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Speaker 1: in Boston and in a very traditionally it's very dog faced. God,

435
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: in my mind, the Boston comedy scene is like hideous way.

436
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: But it's like it's like what you see if you

437
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:18,479
Speaker 1: see a movie that's like about comedy, and it's like,

438
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 1: this is what open mics are like, this is what

439
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:23,160
Speaker 1: shows are like that is what the Boston scene is like.

440
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 1: It is very straightforward in a way that I actually

441
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: found very comforting because I could like figure out the

442
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: rules of it. And it's like I knew that I

443
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 1: would go to open mics and work on you jokes,

444
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, at my best that would go every night,

445
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,320
Speaker 1: and then by the end of the week I would

446
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,239
Speaker 1: have like a new three to five minute kind of

447
00:25:40,280 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: thing that I could then do at a book show,

448
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:45,960
Speaker 1: which was like in some kind of like best case

449
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: scenario theater, worst case scenario like bar or whatever, and

450
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: then I would like do those jokes every No one

451
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 1: would be in any way dressed up. Everyone looked the same,

452
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: Like it was very joke based and not character based,

453
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 1: so like it wouldn't be people kind of like doing

454
00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: anything anything like playing with the forum in terms of

455
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,159
Speaker 1: like singing or anything like, oh my god, people have

456
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 1: done that to me. Who was I won't say who

457
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 1: it was, but somebody, I think, not being aware, literally

458
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: came up to me and was just like I hate

459
00:26:20,480 --> 00:26:25,560
Speaker 1: musical comedy and I was like okay, like and they're like, oh,

460
00:26:25,560 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: it's just like every time someone starts singing on stage,

461
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: just like no, no, no, no, no, and I was like, God,

462
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: to be fair, I hate when I'm not doing it

463
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,719
Speaker 1: when everyone whenever anyone else does, I'm like, well this

464
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:42,439
Speaker 1: is bad in general. When I do it, it's like

465
00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,240
Speaker 1: this is incredible, this is that actually an art form

466
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: like this sucks? Why do we pay to see this?

467
00:26:48,680 --> 00:26:51,400
Speaker 1: I don't have that ego because my mindset is like

468
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 1: that if I hated so much, that they probably hated too.

469
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 1: So literally, every time I go on stage, I'm just

470
00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,280
Speaker 1: like and why would they want to watch this? And

471
00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:00,800
Speaker 1: why why am I here? Why? Why are they here?

472
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 1: And then it is crazy that people just go to

473
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: comedy show the fact that like we treat audiences like

474
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 1: it's like a unending resource. Here, I'm like, no, it's

475
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 1: going to run out. Like there's like ten people tops

476
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: that like comment, New York humbles you on that because

477
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:19,159
Speaker 1: it's like you start doing a bunch of shows for

478
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:21,480
Speaker 1: like four people, and every bar owner hates you and

479
00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 1: every bartender wants you dead, and it's like then you

480
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,880
Speaker 1: go to like smaller scenes where they're like, oh my god,

481
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:27,720
Speaker 1: the bar we do our monthly show at is obsessed

482
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: with us, and you're like, what I know that They're

483
00:27:29,800 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: like kind Yeah, they love us. We bring them business.

484
00:27:32,680 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: It's like yeah, but they they're not supposed to like

485
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,080
Speaker 1: appreciate that, like they hate you. You know, we're being

486
00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,800
Speaker 1: off the rails in a really great way today. No, No,

487
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: in a way that I quite like, thanks for maybe

488
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:47,919
Speaker 1: stepping on the brake. I like stradiology or whatever it was.

489
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: I love stradiology, Stradio Lab, and I also like straighter things.

490
00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,840
Speaker 1: But stradio Lab really really too obvious slee Straighter Lab,

491
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,040
Speaker 1: I think is more our vibe in the sense that

492
00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: it's so stupid it's funny. It's funny, which is what

493
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 1: we're trying to do sometimes not so much. But wait,

494
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: we were going off the rails. No, I like you

495
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,359
Speaker 1: were saying it's off the rail. Well okay, and so

496
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 1: you want to bring it back. The whole thing about

497
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:21,880
Speaker 1: this podcast is that we talked about making it while

498
00:28:21,920 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: we make it. Yeah, one question I had is like,

499
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 1: do we, like I have to do segments like what's

500
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: up with that? Thank you for bringing that up on

501
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 1: Aramid episode. I think it was kind of I would

502
00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:33,960
Speaker 1: love to do a segment. Do you want to do

503
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 1: a because I just ramble and then I get really

504
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: scared about what I said and that people are going

505
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 1: to take offense to it, and I like really terrified

506
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: of everything. To be very you sound really smart. I hope.

507
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 1: I mean I used the word dichotomy. When I heard dichotomy,

508
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 1: my jaw was on the floor. When I heard you

509
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: make up the term stradiology, I was like, Okay, queer studies, PhD,

510
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: M'm searing the word I'm queering the word straight. Well,

511
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 1: I will say one of the segments that is the

512
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: easiest to do that we have. It's called straight Shooters,

513
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: where we kind of assess your familiarity with straight culture

514
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 1: by giving you a series of quick fire one word

515
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:16,320
Speaker 1: like how intrench straight culture? He's literally talking and go

516
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 1: it's my podcast. Now, okay, all right, are you ready?

517
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: Whatever comes to mind? Wait? What do you mean? I

518
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:27,479
Speaker 1: didn't like, you'll see, you'll see. Okay, It's like, ok yeah, Marcia,

519
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 1: look at me, Marcia Ross, Joey or Chandler Joey. Okay, Marcia,

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00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: No many downers zero percent a p R Marcia pussy

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00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: hat or futurist female T shirt, um a futurist female

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00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: stig epp or fine, you are those fraternities? Oh? Sig, Sigg,

523
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,680
Speaker 1: that's the bad one. Lavender scented candle or lemon scented

524
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: a freshener, lavender candle always, always, always. I mean that's

525
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: not even um Ohio or Indiana, Ohio. My family's there now.

526
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: Pottery barn or restoration hardware, pottery barn. I don't like

527
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:18,560
Speaker 1: the smell of hard business. If you're on a train

528
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 1: and it's going sixty miles per hour, are you like

529
00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: thinking about death while you look out the window or

530
00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 1: just sort of texting death? Always? Young Sheldon or old Sheldon,

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Speaker 1: um young young young Seldon. Not like that? Wow, I

532
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 1: mean I'm out of them. I literally branches, Marcia answer

533
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:54,000
Speaker 1: the question. That's the correct answer. Branches. Okay, So I

534
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 1: think leaves are by leaves are the frosting of the tree.

535
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:05,680
Speaker 1: Can anyone? Oh my god, Sam is so hungover his

536
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: brain is you're straight illogically speaking, you are on a

537
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 1: different speaking, you are gone from this world. Oh my god,

538
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, really funny when im hungover to why is that?

539
00:31:19,840 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it's one of our nation's

540
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,440
Speaker 1: greatest resources. I think you're depleted. Yes, Also, then you're

541
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,600
Speaker 1: depleted of all energy and then you have like a

542
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,480
Speaker 1: cup of coffee and then you're literally just a human

543
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: cup of coffee. Else there's nothing else you have to

544
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 1: choose between your brain and your asshole. Like yeah, when

545
00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: I feel like fully like done, like I'm just like okay,

546
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm I'm a bad person. That's when I can really

547
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: get into because if you're like, oh, I want to

548
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: be good today, when do you text me and I

549
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 1: know you're about to go off? It was one of

550
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: the most beautiful experiences go off over text to me. Well,

551
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. We have different frames of reference. Wow,

552
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,440
Speaker 1: like what you on think I would understand you're going off.

553
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: Every time I like rant to Sam over text, he

554
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: always just like replies like ha ha. Here's the thing.

555
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,200
Speaker 1: I'm when it comes to text ranting, I'm a total top.

556
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't like for people to do it at me. Um,

557
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: that's interesting and true. Yeah, when people start texting me,

558
00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:32,240
Speaker 1: I'm like, this is my private phone, like email me.

559
00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: I guess it's crazy that there's no um that the

560
00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:42,000
Speaker 1: idea of an away message is no longer. We should

561
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: have a messages for our cell phones. That's why are

562
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 1: we not? Why is everything a constant conversation going off,

563
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 1: go off, go off. Yeah. Can you imagine that you're

564
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: like texting somebody emergency, you get a text back like, hey,

565
00:33:04,560 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: it's like lyrics to a Fergie song, like it's just

566
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 1: in that star. I would love that and also be

567
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: the change you want to see in the world. Yeah,

568
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: and this is anybody, but Kara. Do not remember when

569
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: you could set your away messages for like everybody but

570
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 1: one person. So I would like say that I was

571
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 1: out except for like my crush, so that if he

572
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: signed on, I could be like, well, you're a hacker.

573
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 1: I never knew how to do that. Interesting. You know.

574
00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 1: The movie Hackers starring Angel and Uli, is based on

575
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: Martin's based on my life as a sixth grader on

576
00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: a I am. That's another good point. There should be more.

577
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: It shouldn't just be public and close friends. There should

578
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 1: be It should be like Facebook where you have groups,

579
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: different groups because I want to Yeah, because I need

580
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 1: a close friends and then I need a friends that

581
00:33:58,520 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: I like, very close friends I need. I need actual friends.

582
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,040
Speaker 1: I need people I want to have sex with. That's

583
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, there do need to be different

584
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: categories on Insta stories because there are some things that

585
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,280
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to share this with my crushes.

586
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:14,759
Speaker 1: I want to share this with my friends who I

587
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: don't need to look attractive to, Like you know what

588
00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 1: I mean. Because sometimes I'll be about to share something

589
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,360
Speaker 1: funny and then I'm like, I wouldn't suck me, and

590
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,359
Speaker 1: I like, don't share it? Yeah I want to. Yeah,

591
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,520
Speaker 1: Like you should be able to share photos of yourself

592
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,800
Speaker 1: where you don't look good, if it's funny, without worrying

593
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,720
Speaker 1: that someone will see. Sometimes I'll post like a bad

594
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,480
Speaker 1: picture and be like this is good because it means

595
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: I'm like really relatable. That's something only an extremely hot

596
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,000
Speaker 1: person says, like I fucking hate you, Like that's like

597
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,400
Speaker 1: all my skinny girlfriends are just like it's funny when

598
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,839
Speaker 1: I'm ugly, I'm like, I'll tear your neck from your heart.

599
00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:49,040
Speaker 1: What do you? Okay, So we're talking about the topic

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00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 1: for today, the topic stand up comedy one Okay. Nick

601
00:34:55,480 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 1: Nanny coined this phrase um the alternative comedy smile when

602
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:06,560
Speaker 1: people post like like shower saw that at your hall

603
00:35:06,680 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 1: but takes out the door for people. In fact, Marcia Well,

604
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: I was like trying to like describe the face, but

605
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,479
Speaker 1: it's like you can't like it's just like, but there's

606
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,320
Speaker 1: someone specific you're talking about. No, it's it's it's literally

607
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,120
Speaker 1: anyone who's ever sold out a show who does alternative

608
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,520
Speaker 1: comedy in Brooklyn, New York. So that my show that

609
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 1: takes out the door, Like look how stupid I look.

610
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 1: I'm really successful. That is the entire like, wait, that's

611
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,240
Speaker 1: actually so funny, Like that's the tagline for Brooklyn. Altsy,

612
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: and look how dumb I look. But I'm actually successful.

613
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,239
Speaker 1: But except for it's me at my day job. Like

614
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:47,480
Speaker 1: people are like, Marcia, you're successful. I'm like I'm not.

615
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: I am not successful. I need money please, Oh comedy. Well,

616
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 1: it's like it's just interesting how much like it's hard

617
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 1: sometimes Like I did this show last year called I

618
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,400
Speaker 1: Hate Female Comedians but You're Okay, And it was like

619
00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: about like when I first started, I really like non

620
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,080
Speaker 1: gendered my jokes because I thought that I would only

621
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: be taken seriously if I could have like a detached

622
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 1: from gender point of view, like so I was political

623
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: but not like overtly female about it, because I thought

624
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 1: that's how i'd like earn respect and then so I'd

625
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 1: get all these compliments of like, you're actually up there

626
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:32,000
Speaker 1: writing jokes and I appreciate that, you know, like, and

627
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: so that's what I came up with. And I was young,

628
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: so I was still like kind of doing this guy's

629
00:36:36,400 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: galfing and I took it as a compliment, like, but

630
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,799
Speaker 1: was starting to grow, like eventually as angry as I

631
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: would become. But like so then when I was doing

632
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 1: this show, there's a lot of like people who started

633
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: I've been doing it for ten years, who started like

634
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 1: probably about five years after me, and just the whole

635
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 1: scene for women change in this way that I'm so

636
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:58,879
Speaker 1: grateful for, and like the queer scene too, because it's

637
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,760
Speaker 1: like now like my whole I had like a Hanukkah

638
00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: party last year and I looked up and like realized,

639
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: I was like, there's not one straight man here, Like

640
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,800
Speaker 1: that's just the whole scene that we're around now is

641
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,640
Speaker 1: just not that Like there was a comedy civil war

642
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: and we were like, you know what, y'all are good.

643
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: You stay over there in the clubs like in Manhattan,

644
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: but um yeah, but these girls were like kind of

645
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: like did people really say that to you? Because like

646
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,839
Speaker 1: that wasn't their experience starting comedy. Their experience was not

647
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:30,280
Speaker 1: this underhanded. Their experience was people like in a way

648
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: going out of their way to book women in a

649
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: way that's still unfair because then it's like they book

650
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:38,440
Speaker 1: a girl and a girl is knew at comedy, so

651
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,360
Speaker 1: she's not a perfect comedian, and they're like, well we tried,

652
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 1: you know, Like but there's there's just a lot more

653
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: support and it's just a numbers game because it's like

654
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: when I started, I was one of like, you know,

655
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: not very many female comedians, and then I moved to

656
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: New York and it was like everything I ever wanted,

657
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:57,480
Speaker 1: where it was like so many female comics, all of them,

658
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,400
Speaker 1: like most of them I found genuinely funny, some of

659
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: them obviously like but no, that's okay and uh. But

660
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: so then it's like, you know, I just got to

661
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 1: find so many funny female friends, whereas like in my

662
00:38:10,800 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: old scene, I felt like there was like three or

663
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,319
Speaker 1: four of us, and I really liked all of them.

664
00:38:14,360 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 1: But you're more like forced together than being able to

665
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: choose who you fit. Well. Portland's organ yeah, so it's

666
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: like and also in Portland too, like you know, I

667
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:26,919
Speaker 1: like the guys I came up with but they did

668
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,080
Speaker 1: have this like boys club that they like wouldn't acknowledge

669
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,600
Speaker 1: because they're like liberal guys, so it's like it's fine.

670
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:35,479
Speaker 1: And then it was like they weren't. I didn't feel

671
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: very seen by them, and I felt like if I

672
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 1: were a guy, they would have felt more comfortable mentoring me,

673
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 1: giving me the spots, taking chances on me. There were

674
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: two guys who really took chances on me. But like

675
00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, the rest of the scene, I felt like

676
00:38:47,160 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: I had to. I always call it the little sister

677
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,319
Speaker 1: that they want to fuck. You have to be the

678
00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: little sister they want to funk, And it sounds so disgusting,

679
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: but it is what you have to do. I think

680
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 1: it's good. No, but it's like it is like what

681
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,240
Speaker 1: you have to make yourself because you have to simultaneously

682
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:05,719
Speaker 1: be sexually available and not you have to simultaneously be

683
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: like Cuba not to you know, like all this stuff,

684
00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,080
Speaker 1: and so it's like I just felt so trapped and

685
00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: that I would never like I thought I was going

686
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: to do the club scene beyond Tonight's show like that track,

687
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:20,960
Speaker 1: because I was I'm not all like I never did

688
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,520
Speaker 1: like character stuff, like I hadn't been doing the music

689
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:30,400
Speaker 1: stuff at the time, mainstream sometimes like actually I remember

690
00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,600
Speaker 1: just Tom talking about this because they were in some

691
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:37,320
Speaker 1: kind of feature or something that was like these comedians

692
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 1: are doing it their way and just was like, actually,

693
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: I am a setup punchline traditional they are a median

694
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:50,440
Speaker 1: who happens to also talk about, like occasionally talk about

695
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,400
Speaker 1: like being Asian and non binary. That literally as jokes

696
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:58,919
Speaker 1: are very good jokes that structurally are traditional stand up jokes.

697
00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 1: Can I go off okay here? Because I think about

698
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: this a lot, but I've also been trying to It's

699
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: like I think so much about like the tangibles of

700
00:40:07,800 --> 00:40:09,759
Speaker 1: this career in industry, but it's also driven me to

701
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 1: the point where I feel like I've had to let

702
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: it go. So it's like this is my last going

703
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: off ever in my life, but the last time I

704
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: ever talked about it. Um, I swear no. But it's

705
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: so like identifiable what happened, and nobody wants to talk

706
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:27,880
Speaker 1: about it or how it led up to like the

707
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:30,319
Speaker 1: Shane Gillis like public blow up and that what they

708
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: called the comedy civil war where it's like when we

709
00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: when I was coming up, like you had gatekeepers and

710
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 1: the gatekeepers were much more powerful than they were before

711
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,800
Speaker 1: the Internet because they still held the booking power for JFL,

712
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: which is a huge deal tonight, show all of this

713
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: stuff that you really needed in order to start working

714
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 1: in the clubs, to get your pilot, you know, read

715
00:40:50,760 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 1: by people, to get to that next level. Those people

716
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 1: were mostly men who got into comedy to have women

717
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,720
Speaker 1: as a reward system and to have this certain life

718
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: that they had imagined for themselves in high school, like

719
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: rock star life, but without the talent, like you know

720
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 1: where It's like they got in however they could, whether

721
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: it was as a stand up in the industry, and

722
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: they loved their boys and the and the women that

723
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,560
Speaker 1: would come with it, who were mostly in the background,

724
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: like who were like producers, you know, worked at the

725
00:41:16,000 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: club whatever. Then when the Internet happened, and when you

726
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: have like the John Early cape er Latt type of

727
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: like all scene that explodes, which was also partly on

728
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 1: the Internet because I remember being in Portland's watching their

729
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:29,760
Speaker 1: YouTube videos and like that's how I had heard of them.

730
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 1: Then you have all of a sudden, all of these

731
00:41:32,080 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: kids are like wait, I don't have to wait to

732
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 1: impress this person. I can just blow myself up, and

733
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: this whole audience that's been sitting there waiting for me

734
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: that I didn't know about is going to be ready

735
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,800
Speaker 1: and I can build them myself, because that was the

736
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:47,839
Speaker 1: best advice I got somebody was like, build your own

737
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 1: audience and you can do whatever you want, and then

738
00:41:50,239 --> 00:41:52,120
Speaker 1: they can't. They can hate you, but they're still going

739
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: to give you a show because you have your own audience.

740
00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 1: And that's what happens. So then you have like hundreds

741
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: and hundreds of people doing this where they've built their

742
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: own audiences, they've blown themselves up, and all of a sudden,

743
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: these gatekeepers whose only power was convincing those people that

744
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: they would never make it unless they channeled themselves through

745
00:42:10,920 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: this like like you said, like where they can't talk

746
00:42:12,920 --> 00:42:14,399
Speaker 1: about their point of view in a certain way, where

747
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,640
Speaker 1: they don't identity politics bullshit, where they anytime we talk

748
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,359
Speaker 1: about our identity, it's identity politics. Anytime a guide us,

749
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: it's just who he is, you know. And all of

750
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 1: a sudden that power is gone or a lot less,

751
00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 1: and those people are freaking out because all of a sudden,

752
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 1: they're clinging to whatever gatekeeper power they have, and they've

753
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: gotten desperate and insane, and they're like going on Twitter

754
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: screaming about all comedy and they don't even know what

755
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: it is because all it is is people who decided

756
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 1: funck the gatekeepers. That's all all comedy is. Now. It's

757
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: not characters out there like because it used to be

758
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 1: caper Land and John Early, like their comedy was not

759
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:52,799
Speaker 1: on the ground. Their comedy was like always like there

760
00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: was never a center and never was like grounded to

761
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,279
Speaker 1: some truth where you had to land the punch line.

762
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 1: You know, it was just flowing. That's what I saw

763
00:42:59,840 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 1: is comedy. But now I see it just as the

764
00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: people who the gatekeepers were always going to approve of

765
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,320
Speaker 1: and who are still going that channel, and the people

766
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: who have decided that they're not going to wait because

767
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 1: they know that they can do it themselves. But it's

768
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 1: a lot. It's just two different paths, and this is

769
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,880
Speaker 1: like a constant cycle that happens where I mean, the

770
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,040
Speaker 1: all comedy boom of the nineties was similar. It was

771
00:43:20,080 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: like again people saying fuck you to the gate to

772
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 1: like yes, like people like that. I mean, uh, even

773
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: our friend Mark Marin, yeah, Mark May in the two thousands,

774
00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: same thing. It was comedians of comedy. It was Zac Alfinakis,

775
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: like Maria Bamford, but even that that was identifiably all

776
00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:42,399
Speaker 1: because they were not doing traditional stand up. They weren't

777
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 1: going up there like what's the weather like today. Now

778
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,160
Speaker 1: there are some of us who just happened to be

779
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: that's but it's hard because sometimes the way the shows

780
00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:54,760
Speaker 1: are balanced, it's like, you know, it is really hard

781
00:43:54,920 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 1: when like Laurel goes up and they're such a fucking

782
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,759
Speaker 1: genius and I'm having such a good time watching them,

783
00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: and and I have to follow them and be like, hey, guys,

784
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,799
Speaker 1: it's me. So I was on the train the other day,

785
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: like and it's like, so, it's interesting how we've all

786
00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: been kind of thrown together just by way of the

787
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,560
Speaker 1: fact that those people didn't want us. I get so

788
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 1: annoyed um at being like weird, Like people are like

789
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: you're weird, and it's like I'm doing normal fucking stand up.

790
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 1: It drives me bonkers, and it's like, yes, I have songs,

791
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: but it's like, but that's mostly not what I do.

792
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,960
Speaker 1: I wish I was weirder, Like I wish that I could.

793
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:34,600
Speaker 1: But then people, it's just interesting because then that has

794
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:37,600
Speaker 1: now taken so much mainstream power, like Comedy Central and

795
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: the industry. People are not going to the clubs. They're

796
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 1: going to Little Field, They're going to Union Hall, like

797
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,919
Speaker 1: that's where they're going to find people. Mostly they're not

798
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: even going to JFL the way that they used to.

799
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 1: Like it's just that what has power has changed, but

800
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: the people who have lost their power do not want

801
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: to acknowledge that. Definitely love to give a shout out

802
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 1: to Rebecca Trent if you're listening. We get sued for

803
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: a million dollars um. Yeah, but I just and that

804
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: was like a long rant, but it's like I it

805
00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: just for me having seen the whole trajectory of it.

806
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: I get really frustrated when these people are like, oh,

807
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: like you know Brooklyn all because it's like you don't

808
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: even know what it means, because we all know what

809
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 1: it means. Is just that like Jess would have had

810
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:23,439
Speaker 1: to wait a lot longer to come up in those

811
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: spaces because they always want to hold your head down

812
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,919
Speaker 1: like you're a kid on the playground, like and keep

813
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 1: you in your place. And me personally, like I just

814
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,520
Speaker 1: got so fucking sick of I'm like I want to

815
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 1: do whatever I want, and I'm pretty sure that I'm

816
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,799
Speaker 1: lucky enough to be alive and a time where I can.

817
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,640
Speaker 1: So it's like and then they're fucking mad and they

818
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 1: don't want. They make fun of people who blow themselves

819
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: up on the internet, whether it's front facing videos like okay,

820
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: make fun of front facing videos all you want. But

821
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:50,160
Speaker 1: I see these like irony bros who are like so

822
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,240
Speaker 1: fucking mad about it, and it's like, why are you mad?

823
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,719
Speaker 1: You're mad because that person got successful on their own

824
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,879
Speaker 1: terms doing something that you can't see yourself doing. Get

825
00:45:58,880 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 1: the funk over it? Well, she hath gone off. Yeah,

826
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:09,840
Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm sorry. Awful arm is truly siren like

827
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: disguising what is really just like sexist, racist, homophobic resentment

828
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: as all comedy. Yes, I'm of two minds about I mean,

829
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: what you're talking about with the club comedy gatekeepers having

830
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 1: lost her power. I think that's like part of a

831
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: broader thing of like people having less trust in institutions

832
00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 1: in general. Like I know that's like a very um

833
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,200
Speaker 1: broad but it's truly like and that can be both

834
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 1: good and bad, Like it's, for instance, let's say you know,

835
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 1: people have less trust in big journalistic institutions because of

836
00:46:47,960 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: the Internet. That's both a good thing in the sense

837
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: that like you can um pay more attention to marginalized

838
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: voices that otherwise wouldn't be the front page of the

839
00:46:55,160 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: New York Times. But it's also bad because then if

840
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: people distress the media, that's shitty, and then you get

841
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 1: in our situation, it's like you have millions of bad

842
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: comedians exactly. I mean that's basically what I'm saying. Everybody

843
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: can be a community. On the one hand, like it's

844
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 1: good that there are, it's good that there are, like

845
00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 1: there's room for everybody, but I got to make some cuts.

846
00:47:16,440 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 1: I'm going to be making cuts in the next couple

847
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: of making cuts this round. But I will say with that, well,

848
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: what do you want to say? I hate from facing

849
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: fucking shit. I'll be honest. I think it's like it

850
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: gets the amount of attention it gets from what it

851
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: actually is to me is like not proportionate. I feel

852
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 1: like they're actual video. Sure, they're like plenty, they're like fine,

853
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,520
Speaker 1: and then it's like genius. Some of the margins though,

854
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,359
Speaker 1: Like I love Caleb Hair and I think he's so

855
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,359
Speaker 1: But there's also the difference between the people where they're

856
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: only funny on the Internet and the people where it translates.

857
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,160
Speaker 1: And I think that kind of shows I think the

858
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:02,280
Speaker 1: front facing video as a latform versus the actual video itself,

859
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,920
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like as a platform to

860
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 1: launch somebody who has potential in all sorts of areas

861
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,320
Speaker 1: and who just like you know, got that attention fromself.

862
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:14,680
Speaker 1: But it is crazy when you'll like see like Linn

863
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:17,600
Speaker 1: men Well like tweeting like something, and you're just I'm

864
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: just like jealous, No, I'm jealous. I want his attention.

865
00:48:20,840 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 1: Every single musical that we do, I tag him like

866
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,000
Speaker 1: I'm saving a seat for you, and he never comes.

867
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,799
Speaker 1: But I don't know, I I get that, like you're

868
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,359
Speaker 1: allowed to hate front facing videos because you don't hate

869
00:48:33,360 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: them because they're women. Like it's like I'll see these

870
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: bros who are just like like the guy who mashed

871
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 1: up three like it was like Alyssa, Rachel and Ava

872
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: like he like mashed up their front facing videos and

873
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,360
Speaker 1: played them at the same time and it went viral,

874
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 1: like making fun of them, and it's like, you know what,

875
00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 1: Like I do think you're just mad that these women

876
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,040
Speaker 1: have gotten a type of success in comedy that you

877
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:58,399
Speaker 1: feel your own and it's like, you know, I don't

878
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: resent them for that, Like I think the like they

879
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 1: blew themselves up like how they could, like you know,

880
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: and a lot of those videos are funny like, but

881
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,520
Speaker 1: that's just it's also specific to the medium, like it

882
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 1: actually makes more sense to posed to front facing camera

883
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,480
Speaker 1: video on Twitter than people want. That's the thing too,

884
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: I think it's the resentment of people like you will

885
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 1: spend like a month on like a three minute sketch

886
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: video that costs like two thousand dollars and then it'll

887
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 1: get three likes, and then it's like and if that

888
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:31,120
Speaker 1: doesn't happen, it's such a surprise, Whereas you'll think of

889
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,759
Speaker 1: something funny, film it right away and put it up

890
00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:39,000
Speaker 1: and it will go like megaviral. Yeah, and that's unfortunately

891
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: how it's I take it back, I love I don't

892
00:49:47,320 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: necessarily have a medium, is weirdly the message And um,

893
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:58,000
Speaker 1: I get I'm not mea episode title. I'm just saying,

894
00:49:58,040 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: like I do think it's like a lot of it's

895
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,360
Speaker 1: all it's good and bad, every aspect of this it

896
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:04,799
Speaker 1: is and the only reason and that's why I'm yes,

897
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: good and bad good and bad. Yes, I will say

898
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:14,960
Speaker 1: yes everything I just learned. I don't have to have

899
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,960
Speaker 1: an extreme opinion on things. I can just like some

900
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,320
Speaker 1: things are good and somethings are bad, and that's all comedy,

901
00:50:21,480 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: and that that is all. Oh my god, that's all comedy.

902
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: It's bad. That's incredible because I'll explain it's like will list.

903
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,360
Speaker 1: With all comedy when it's bad, it's like awkward and stuff.

904
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: But with stand up, when it's bad, it's like, oh

905
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 1: my god, we're all going to die here. Like it's

906
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,400
Speaker 1: like when you're at a cluck somebody starts like going

907
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,719
Speaker 1: off on like something horrible, and then you're like and then,

908
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 1: oh my god. I love what you said earlier about

909
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:49,520
Speaker 1: how you hate when people do the like, Okay, I

910
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 1: guess we've never heard of Google docs here, because I

911
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:54,919
Speaker 1: do that sometimes when I'm like panicking. But I love

912
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 1: when somebody will be like, so, like death is scary

913
00:50:57,800 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 1: and then just be like silent. They don't get a

914
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: laugh because it's a joke, and they're like, Okay, I

915
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 1: guess death isn't scared. Here to watch someone bomb that

916
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 1: stand up it's one of my favorite things. Is a

917
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:13,520
Speaker 1: whole wide world. It's the best. There's nothing like it.

918
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 1: It's so much, absolutely live for it when they're just

919
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,800
Speaker 1: sitting in it and they can't get out of bombing.

920
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: I was I was doing a show in l a

921
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 1: at some kind of bar and someone was bombing and

922
00:51:28,320 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: it and people just started talking over him like it

923
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:32,439
Speaker 1: was just like this is over and I'm not gonna

924
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,360
Speaker 1: say what it was. But it was someone who actually

925
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: used to who's like I would say big and like

926
00:51:36,920 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 1: the nineties, like think of Tony. It was obviously not

927
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,680
Speaker 1: it was like not Mark Marrin, but it was someone

928
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:52,160
Speaker 1: who And so then he truly was. He was just

929
00:51:52,239 --> 00:51:57,359
Speaker 1: like yelling, doing some kind of bit about like it

930
00:51:57,440 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: was not sexist, but it had to do with women.

931
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: Enough people were uncomfortable because like already he wasn't doing well,

932
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:04,840
Speaker 1: and then suddenly he was like and you know women,

933
00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,480
Speaker 1: and it's like you're not actually not saying anything offensive,

934
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,839
Speaker 1: this is not so then instead of so then he

935
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:21,720
Speaker 1: just starts yelling louder and louder women. Right, He gets

936
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,120
Speaker 1: up on the counter, he gets up on the bar

937
00:52:24,600 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: and starts like yelling at people and does this thing

938
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: thinking it would be funny of like going putting his

939
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:32,600
Speaker 1: face close to people that are just talking over like

940
00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:34,080
Speaker 1: that are just having a conversation at the bar, and

941
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:37,400
Speaker 1: kind of like talking at them because he thought, because yes,

942
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 1: I could see a world in which that would be

943
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: funny as a concept, but like, no one's on your side,

944
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: so it's just this like loud man yelling at two

945
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: people that are at an ambush. Doesn't that scare you

946
00:52:47,880 --> 00:52:50,200
Speaker 1: when you look at somebody where like you've had everything

947
00:52:50,280 --> 00:52:52,840
Speaker 1: that I could want in my career and oh my god,

948
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,520
Speaker 1: I just had that. I did a show with an

949
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 1: unnamed comedian who is like successful and was so bummed out,

950
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,759
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh no, that's the goal. That's like,

951
00:53:02,920 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: that's why I'm striving for. No, that's why we have

952
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,480
Speaker 1: to put our That's why it's exciting to be in

953
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: this like time where it's like we can write scripts

954
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:12,560
Speaker 1: and we can develop, like we can be I want

955
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:15,360
Speaker 1: to focus on like writing so much because then it's like, listen,

956
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 1: if stand up falls through, I can just have a

957
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,440
Speaker 1: quiet life. I can just like have a nice, nice life.

958
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,719
Speaker 1: I had the funniest meltdown I've ever seen of like

959
00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: an old school comic was Nick Depolo before all speaking

960
00:53:28,480 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: of straight culture. Now, this is why we have you

961
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 1: on the pod only you have this type of information.

962
00:53:34,600 --> 00:53:36,719
Speaker 1: Oh my god. It was so funny, Like it was

963
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 1: at the stands like a few years ago for I

964
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,520
Speaker 1: think it was for the JFL audition. No, it's for

965
00:53:41,640 --> 00:53:44,359
Speaker 1: like comm Me Central something, and we had all gone

966
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:46,240
Speaker 1: up and I guess somebody didn't show up for their spot,

967
00:53:46,239 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 1: and Nick Depolo was just like hanging out at the

968
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,040
Speaker 1: bar upstairs at like six pm. So they're like, Nick,

969
00:53:51,080 --> 00:53:52,520
Speaker 1: do you want to close out the show and he's

970
00:53:52,520 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 1: like yeah, sure, comes down, starts doing all this like

971
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,480
Speaker 1: crazy you know, like millennial material. That was like not

972
00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: funny because he's just like was literally so happy. He

973
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:03,799
Speaker 1: was like moennial three and like tofu like it was

974
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: like hack like that. It was like it was crazy,

975
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,280
Speaker 1: I know. And so then it was bombing just because

976
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:13,160
Speaker 1: like everybody was tired. And then he goes, you guys

977
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:15,480
Speaker 1: won't understand like these kids, I'm not these kids that

978
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,520
Speaker 1: are just starting out, like I'm a real comedian, and

979
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: everybody was like it was so sad. It was the

980
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: sadas mohe I've ever witnessed in my life. And then

981
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: like he had a full meltdown and then like a

982
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 1: month later it was all over. Is like special about

983
00:54:28,960 --> 00:54:32,200
Speaker 1: like triggered or whatever he called it's like three years

984
00:54:32,200 --> 00:54:36,439
Speaker 1: from now me doing that exact same set a year olds. Yes,

985
00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: I made I made some comment to a friend about

986
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 1: like veganism, and it was so hacked that I felt

987
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,600
Speaker 1: so humilian, and I like message her on Instagram was

988
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,960
Speaker 1: like I am so stupid and humiliated that I'm making

989
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,120
Speaker 1: vegan jokes like please kill me. And then she never

990
00:54:52,160 --> 00:54:57,279
Speaker 1: messaged me back, and I'm like, oh god, I'm like yeah,

991
00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 1: platform like why Marcia Buski is dangerous for she is

992
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,680
Speaker 1: a hack who makes fun of vegans like she's twelve.

993
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:15,640
Speaker 1: Do you find that it's difficult to express that you

994
00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 1: don't like sending because it's hack and not because you're offended. Yes,

995
00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: I'm never offended embarrassed that I'm hacked, No, not, but

996
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:26,520
Speaker 1: not with your material like seeing other For instance, there

997
00:55:26,560 --> 00:55:30,560
Speaker 1: are certain jokes that are like related to gay. Last

998
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,759
Speaker 1: example is people that are like l g B t

999
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 1: q W T F A B. I'm not there's no

1000
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 1: part of me that's like, please don't erase other members

1001
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,120
Speaker 1: of my community. That's literally not But I'm actually trying

1002
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:48,400
Speaker 1: to erase some When I erase them, that's empowering. Sam's

1003
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:53,439
Speaker 1: erasing the g and only leaving the bore. And I'm

1004
00:55:53,480 --> 00:55:55,719
Speaker 1: guilty of this. But like the joke of like I

1005
00:55:55,719 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 1: identify as x y Z, the entire joke of all

1006
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:01,600
Speaker 1: of us have done that, you know what we need

1007
00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,840
Speaker 1: to you can tell when you can tell when somebody

1008
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: is new in comedy, it's hard because when you see

1009
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: somebody who's new, who has potential. When I try and think, like,

1010
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: I'm so humiliated thinking of everybody who saw me the

1011
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: first like three years, and then also when I moved

1012
00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: to New York the first two years, like and it's

1013
00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:18,399
Speaker 1: just probably like, oh this poor girl. And now they're

1014
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:22,920
Speaker 1: probably like, how did this happen? But when I can't,

1015
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I thought so bad. Oh my god. But

1016
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 1: we need to drop the like I know what you're thinking,

1017
00:56:31,200 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: I look like blank me. Oh. Can we just go

1018
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:39,600
Speaker 1: through some stand up tropes hate I love? Yeah, let's

1019
00:56:39,600 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: go through one. The thing with I look like blank

1020
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,320
Speaker 1: and it's blank is it's still is so common, especially

1021
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: the number I always do laugh though, which is like

1022
00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 1: hack on my part. When there can I say a

1023
00:56:50,320 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: hot take when they get it right, when they're like

1024
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,920
Speaker 1: when it's like, you really do look like that? Though, well,

1025
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,040
Speaker 1: you know it's a classic. It's like, do you know that?

1026
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,399
Speaker 1: It's how you show self awareness up top? That's why

1027
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,640
Speaker 1: they tell its start with truly stand up one on one, like,

1028
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:05,319
Speaker 1: and it's how you say something about how you look. Yeah,

1029
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:07,319
Speaker 1: someone I know that works in food told me that, like,

1030
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,200
Speaker 1: you can tell how good a chef is by how

1031
00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:12,359
Speaker 1: good their roast chicken is, which is like the most

1032
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: basic thing you can make, and it's a genious. But

1033
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:19,280
Speaker 1: that's like what that is? Oh my god, what's crazy?

1034
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:24,160
Speaker 1: Do you restaurant? Have you ever done a I look

1035
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:27,280
Speaker 1: like blank meats blank? No? No, because I can never

1036
00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: figure out who the funk I look like, because anytime

1037
00:57:29,600 --> 00:57:35,640
Speaker 1: people tell me, I'm like, no, absolutely not. Yeah. I

1038
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:38,200
Speaker 1: feel like in my I don't know if you guys

1039
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: know this, but I was really bad at comedy for

1040
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 1: a while. I feel like I think I'm definitely trying

1041
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:47,760
Speaker 1: to do like sort of an alternative take. I was like,

1042
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,560
Speaker 1: this is going to be sort of a takedown of

1043
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 1: the structure. Structure, which was that's kind of what this

1044
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: podcast is. A takedown and and just the idea of

1045
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,360
Speaker 1: structure that our podcast is good though, right, I think

1046
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,320
Speaker 1: it is great. I think up top you guys are

1047
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: making me laugh so much. Else so mad, I had

1048
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: to be quiet. I could feel that you've always been

1049
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:14,919
Speaker 1: jealous of us. I am jealous. We are the hot

1050
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,280
Speaker 1: girls in comedy that you're referring to. You just change

1051
00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:20,640
Speaker 1: our gender is uh No, I like I am. I'm

1052
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 1: not like. I think it's just crazy, like to be

1053
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,959
Speaker 1: the idea of being like a twenty three year old

1054
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 1: comedian because I remember to say one thing, George, I

1055
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:34,840
Speaker 1: would be careful. I was so afraid when I was

1056
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,440
Speaker 1: starting out of like saying the wrong doing the wrong thing,

1057
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: pissing off the wrong person. One time I asked to

1058
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 1: be on a show and basically the guy was like,

1059
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,840
Speaker 1: you're not ready for this show. I know who this was.

1060
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: And also he did not say like that. He was

1061
00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 1: way more rude and actually like it was one of

1062
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: the most traumatizings. Oh I'll tell you later, but it's

1063
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: a psychotic st it's insane um anyway. And then that

1064
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: experience to me, just that like being told that, I

1065
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,560
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, it's over, it's going to get around

1066
00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,600
Speaker 1: like the New York scene that like I think I'm

1067
00:59:06,920 --> 00:59:10,240
Speaker 1: hot shit, and in fact I'm like just a new person.

1068
00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,800
Speaker 1: Whatever I remember in Boston, I would be so and

1069
00:59:13,840 --> 00:59:15,919
Speaker 1: I don't regret doing that, but I would be so

1070
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: just kind of like timid, not just timid, but like

1071
00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,840
Speaker 1: always trying to impress people in the personal situations. I wouldn't.

1072
00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: It would take me a lot to like I still

1073
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:29,200
Speaker 1: don't on the show like time, I would at least

1074
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 1: go like twice to the show, get to know the

1075
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: people that are hosting it, and then even then send

1076
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 1: a tape to be on. That's I feel bad because

1077
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 1: I know you're supposed to ask for shows and this

1078
00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: is what people are told. But I am literally like

1079
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:43,880
Speaker 1: furious every time someone asked me to be on my show,

1080
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,600
Speaker 1: Like and I know it's not fair to them, and

1081
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 1: I don't hold it against the person, but I never

1082
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: asked for shows, so I hate being asked. And it's

1083
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,200
Speaker 1: like it's not their fault because that's what they're told

1084
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 1: to do, but I like severely resented. It's crazy. This

1085
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 1: UM episode, I learned what nuances and that things canna

1086
00:59:59,120 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 1: be good and bad, and I think when people are

1087
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,520
Speaker 1: my friends, and they messaged me like, hey, I what

1088
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,320
Speaker 1: can I do your show? I'm like, oh, of course,

1089
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: Well that makes me feel extra pressure because I'm like

1090
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: because sometimes it's like there are a lot I don't know, yeah,

1091
01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 1: like sometimes then it's like then I have to fit

1092
01:00:12,840 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 1: you in or I like and especially on Stevie, it's

1093
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: like they're like these straight guys. So I'm like friends

1094
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:24,360
Speaker 1: with like yeah and one more club comics and I'm like, listen,

1095
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: no offense, but you have the comedy seller, why do

1096
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 1: you need my show at Union Hall? Like they want

1097
01:00:30,200 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: both it's like greedy. I'm like, you know what, you're

1098
01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: accepted in that, Like you're accepted in that space, you know.

1099
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,640
Speaker 1: And also with like when you're starting out like I do,

1100
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 1: it's interesting because it's like I feel like you should

1101
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: take what you want. But I took so much time

1102
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:45,800
Speaker 1: to like try and get there. And was also told

1103
01:00:45,840 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 1: like one of the main reasons I moved to New

1104
01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 1: York is because and I've talked it through with him,

1105
01:00:49,880 --> 01:00:52,440
Speaker 1: like we're still friendly. But this guy who was like

1106
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:55,600
Speaker 1: a decently major player in the Portland scene told me

1107
01:00:55,640 --> 01:00:58,160
Speaker 1: I was nowhere near ready for this big show that

1108
01:00:58,200 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: they run that they had booked no women except for

1109
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,000
Speaker 1: one guy's girlfriend, and I was really fucking piste off

1110
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,040
Speaker 1: because I was like, I know that I'm near ready,

1111
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: and I know that you would see it for some

1112
01:01:08,720 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 1: reason if you didn't think that I was like one

1113
01:01:10,720 --> 01:01:12,640
Speaker 1: or like didn't have the right attitude, because if I

1114
01:01:12,680 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: were a man, you'd be like, he's cocky, he's cool,

1115
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:17,240
Speaker 1: like whatever. But they always thought I had like an

1116
01:01:17,280 --> 01:01:19,720
Speaker 1: attitude problem, probably because I did, probably because I resented

1117
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,080
Speaker 1: the funk out of them, But like, but there's a

1118
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 1: higher there's a lower tolerance for that's just like, okay,

1119
01:01:25,160 --> 01:01:28,080
Speaker 1: did everyone. I truly have no idea who you're talking about,

1120
01:01:28,120 --> 01:01:31,400
Speaker 1: but it's like, don't all the guys also have everyone

1121
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,960
Speaker 1: we know problem? That's like, that's why we do that.

1122
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,959
Speaker 1: That's why we do this because we have problems. Yeah,

1123
01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: the two guys who are my act comes from tragedy,

1124
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: like one of the whole tragedy plus time even oh

1125
01:01:43,280 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 1: my god, yes, because some people just have the tragedy

1126
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,440
Speaker 1: and then they try to make humor. It's like time

1127
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 1: bab oh my god. That is that is stand up

1128
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,320
Speaker 1: straight culture where it's like a news item hits and

1129
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:58,320
Speaker 1: then five seconds later, I see like three of the

1130
01:01:58,360 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: most unfunny thinking the word just f y I this

1131
01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:09,680
Speaker 1: joke was meant from my audience. Oh, we are going

1132
01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:13,520
Speaker 1: off the pod, but I do. It's like, I feel

1133
01:02:13,600 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 1: like there's just this I don't know. I have to

1134
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 1: try and distinguish between the resentment that was like not

1135
01:02:19,880 --> 01:02:23,480
Speaker 1: certain individuals faults versus like what I'm hanging on to,

1136
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean in terms of people who

1137
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:27,800
Speaker 1: told me I wasn't ready. But then I feel like

1138
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:30,320
Speaker 1: it grew me into being a stronger comic. Like when

1139
01:02:30,360 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: I did this taping the other day, I looked around,

1140
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, I'm ten years in. All of these

1141
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:37,360
Speaker 1: other people except for a couple of them, are like

1142
01:02:37,440 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: five years in. But instead of being like mad, I'm like,

1143
01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: I feel grateful because I've I'm so ready. Like it's

1144
01:02:43,040 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: like I don't feel that sort of like am I

1145
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:49,000
Speaker 1: going to be funny like anymore as much? Yeah? You know,

1146
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:51,480
Speaker 1: I know I'm actually all out of funny stuff. So

1147
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 1: I ago someone the best advice I got a comedy,

1148
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:59,520
Speaker 1: You'll get everything that you feel you deserve two years

1149
01:02:59,560 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: after you felt you deserved it. Somebody told me, well,

1150
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 1: it's about time for me. Then yeah, it's actually been

1151
01:03:05,120 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: four years that I've been feeling like I deserve the world.

1152
01:03:07,440 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: Just kind of crazy, but it updates because it's like

1153
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,080
Speaker 1: you'll get cluster Fest, like two years like you'll feel

1154
01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,280
Speaker 1: like you're ready to be on cluster Fest, and then

1155
01:03:14,280 --> 01:03:16,200
Speaker 1: two years after that you'll get it. You'll feel like

1156
01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 1: you're ready to have your own TV show because you're

1157
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,439
Speaker 1: already writing on a show. And then two years after

1158
01:03:21,520 --> 01:03:23,000
Speaker 1: that you feel and then by that time you're like,

1159
01:03:23,000 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 1: I should be writing a movie. You know. It's like

1160
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:26,880
Speaker 1: this constant. So I'm trying to just stay in there.

1161
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: Tell if I'm like sometimes I'm like my sense of

1162
01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: self is so insanely high. Like sometimes I'm like but

1163
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:37,560
Speaker 1: then sometimes I'm like, I'm an absolute piece of fucking ship.

1164
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 1: Why would I ever think? Yeah, I flucted between those

1165
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: two extremes constants. I keep finding myself like like getting

1166
01:03:49,640 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: into a little bad situations because I'm like, well, I

1167
01:03:53,040 --> 01:03:55,720
Speaker 1: deserve the world, and then I'm like, of course no

1168
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,880
Speaker 1: one's gonna give Why did I expect that? But you

1169
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: have to That's but that's like your charm. It's like

1170
01:04:02,040 --> 01:04:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm trying to find that it's like I want to

1171
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:05,800
Speaker 1: feel like I deserve the world so that I can

1172
01:04:05,840 --> 01:04:08,280
Speaker 1: take the world like for myself, whereas forever I was

1173
01:04:08,320 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: just always being like everyone else deserves it but me.

1174
01:04:11,160 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 1: I think what's really interesting about me is that I

1175
01:04:12,920 --> 01:04:14,640
Speaker 1: do feel like I deserve the world, but I also

1176
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 1: think it should be handed to me rather than yes,

1177
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:22,040
Speaker 1: chase me world, the world. I'm actually playing hard to get,

1178
01:04:22,560 --> 01:04:24,520
Speaker 1: Like I'm playing hard to get. Please make me famous,

1179
01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: like I guess I'll take it. Oh my gosh, No,

1180
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: I don't want to be when I was. It's interesting

1181
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,040
Speaker 1: like how the goal shift because as a kid, when

1182
01:04:31,040 --> 01:04:32,400
Speaker 1: I was like this theater kid, I'm like, I want

1183
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: to be rich, I want to be famous, And now Bernie,

1184
01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:40,959
Speaker 1: I feel like and now Bernie and I just feel

1185
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:42,880
Speaker 1: like the goal has shifted where it's like now all

1186
01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:46,240
Speaker 1: I want is to be like financially stable enough that

1187
01:04:46,320 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: I can pay someone to clean my house once every

1188
01:04:48,680 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: two weeks, like that's the only type of money I

1189
01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: want is to be able to like eat out twice

1190
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:57,160
Speaker 1: a week. And for me, I still want to be successful. Yeah,

1191
01:04:57,320 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: I want to be a rich capital R. I'm trying

1192
01:04:59,880 --> 01:05:05,320
Speaker 1: to talking makes maybe sam Clobe Club Nation, Rise Up,

1193
01:05:05,320 --> 01:05:14,600
Speaker 1: Club clo clop cloud listeners, Club Nation Tonight we rise um.

1194
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,200
Speaker 1: Should we do our like final segments? I kind of

1195
01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: what's crazy is? I don't really want to either, but

1196
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 1: it's like, do we have to what's the final segment?

1197
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: Has this been insane? Do you think people are listenings? No?

1198
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 1: I actually think this is weirdly a good podcast. This

1199
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 1: is like a very good episode. When I ran to

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01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 1: I feel like people are like, shut the funk. George

1201
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:35,720
Speaker 1: was like that. I wasn't, well, what what kind of

1202
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:41,920
Speaker 1: all the parts? Please cut them? I think a lot

1203
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 1: of the brands he went on could be like sampled

1204
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 1: in a feminist track, you know, sort of like a Beyonce.

1205
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,200
Speaker 1: This is less the podcast more of a visual album.

1206
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,320
Speaker 1: I definitely think it could be like, well, the the

1207
01:05:53,360 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: Economy of hot comedy, like we teach gs to shrink

1208
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:00,400
Speaker 1: and shot and these hot girls today. It really would work.

1209
01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,800
Speaker 1: I don't resent the hot girls. I resent my get

1210
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:09,720
Speaker 1: out of my life. You know. I have started to

1211
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:12,080
Speaker 1: talk about how much I resent certain people throughout this

1212
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:14,360
Speaker 1: last hour, and I'm really happy the conversation has moved

1213
01:06:14,360 --> 01:06:15,960
Speaker 1: along every time, so I have not had to go

1214
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,000
Speaker 1: that road. I think it's also like weird how like

1215
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: you'll see there's a lot of like trauma porn on Twitter,

1216
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,280
Speaker 1: and then it's kind of like it is funny. But

1217
01:06:24,360 --> 01:06:26,760
Speaker 1: at the same time, I feel like maybe you don't

1218
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:29,920
Speaker 1: want to heal if you're like getting so much is

1219
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,400
Speaker 1: going this is dangerous? Yeah, I've heard of trauma porma.

1220
01:06:33,480 --> 01:06:36,439
Speaker 1: I much prefer just normal. Point what I mean, keep

1221
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:41,560
Speaker 1: your trauma every time. That's trauma porn, so that union,

1222
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:48,840
Speaker 1: so that bad house. I'm ugly, but I'll be in

1223
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:56,280
Speaker 1: Vogue next month. Okay, should we just skip our last segment?

1224
01:06:56,640 --> 01:06:59,080
Speaker 1: What is that doing? Real quick? Okay? This and if

1225
01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:00,800
Speaker 1: we want to skip it, we could just cut it here.

1226
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: I hate cutting stuff. I pray to God nobody listens

1227
01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:11,040
Speaker 1: to this podcast. Excuse me. We don't release any of

1228
01:07:11,120 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: these episodes. There there for private ya, Sister Samon is straight,

1229
01:07:19,720 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: Me and my street. Maybe the last segment should be

1230
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: us always teasing a final segment that never comes and

1231
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: then always messing with the guests. Okay, we should do it.

1232
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:32,960
Speaker 1: Is shoutouts, um, you know, we give a shout out

1233
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:36,479
Speaker 1: to a person, place, thing, idea of something we love

1234
01:07:36,880 --> 01:07:39,160
Speaker 1: and it's you know, sort of we do it MTV

1235
01:07:39,960 --> 01:07:42,840
Speaker 1: TRL style. You gotta imagine, yeah, you gotta yell. You

1236
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:45,320
Speaker 1: gotta imagine that your whole squad is back home in

1237
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:51,800
Speaker 1: Ohio and you're blasting off to him from Times Square, Baybay. Um,

1238
01:07:53,120 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: obviously George is gonna start here. Oh really, yeah, you

1239
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: guys have another guest after me. Oh you might have

1240
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:10,000
Speaker 1: gone to get coffee. He's very sorry. No, you're totally fine.

1241
01:08:10,440 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 1: Keep this in. I like this. This is raw fucking truth. Wait,

1242
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:23,360
Speaker 1: hold on, I'm just gonna say we're almost done. Okay, okay,

1243
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 1: and do you have one action? Do you have that thing? Okay?

1244
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,040
Speaker 1: I think I have? Okay, go on, but what if

1245
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:42,080
Speaker 1: it sucks the one? Literally cut it? Okay? Ready, this

1246
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:48,040
Speaker 1: is my shout out. What's up, listeners? Um, I just

1247
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,160
Speaker 1: want to give a quick shout out to um the

1248
01:08:50,320 --> 01:08:52,680
Speaker 1: Lady Gaga track that leaks stupid love. I think this

1249
01:08:52,800 --> 01:08:55,679
Speaker 1: track is incredible. If somebody was joyed immediately saw myself

1250
01:08:55,760 --> 01:08:57,960
Speaker 1: in a pool in the summer, I can tell this

1251
01:08:58,120 --> 01:09:00,320
Speaker 1: is gonna be an incredible year. When I heard a track,

1252
01:09:00,360 --> 01:09:04,040
Speaker 1: I said, Bernie's gonna fucking win baby. This track. It's

1253
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:07,120
Speaker 1: a symbol for the whole world flipping back around to normal,

1254
01:09:07,240 --> 01:09:09,360
Speaker 1: you know, even better than normal, even because what I

1255
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 1: learned in the Trump presidency was little Obama was also

1256
01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,519
Speaker 1: bad and normal is bad. So we're gonna have something different, stupid.

1257
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:17,160
Speaker 1: Love download it, Text me if you want the league.

1258
01:09:17,280 --> 01:09:21,200
Speaker 1: I love you. Wow. What I learned, what is it?

1259
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,680
Speaker 1: What I learned from the track is that Obama was

1260
01:09:24,680 --> 01:09:30,599
Speaker 1: also bad because she did a lot of drone material

1261
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:33,560
Speaker 1: in the track. It's a lot about drones. Yeah, I

1262
01:09:33,640 --> 01:09:36,120
Speaker 1: was actually a lot about That's where I learned about

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Speaker 1: drums from Nadyaga. Okay, George O God Okay, um, Hey listeners.

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Speaker 1: I just want to give a shout out to my

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Speaker 1: favorite comedian, Nick Apoula, who we love you. Nick. I

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Speaker 1: think he has really interesting things to say and I

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Speaker 1: feel like it's just the beginning for him, one of

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Speaker 1: the really really top people out there, and I really

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see where he goes. And also I

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Speaker 1: just want to give a shout out to hot girls

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Speaker 1: in comedy. And I'm really really sorry that we've kind

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Speaker 1: of been dragging you this whole time. We love you,

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Speaker 1: we love you myself, thank you. I'm like so scared

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Speaker 1: now did I Because I don't think I was like

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Speaker 1: dragging them off. No, I think we all appreciate hot

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Speaker 1: girl comedy and what they're doing. We'll also absolutely cut

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Speaker 1: the segment, but keep going please, oh my god, although

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Speaker 1: I did like yours, but we're not cutting it. You'll

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Speaker 1: keep We're keeping it. Go ahead, Um, what's up, listeners?

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Speaker 1: I would like to shout out my late night panic attacks.

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Speaker 1: Really having a great time, just having a great day,

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Speaker 1: and then right before I'm about to fall asleep, sitting

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Speaker 1: straight up in bed, unable to breathe, and I have

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Speaker 1: to call a friend and it's late, and then I'm like,

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Speaker 1: I'm not dying, it's just a panic attack, and so

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Speaker 1: I would just like to thank you for always givting

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Speaker 1: me with your presents morning, day and night, and you

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Speaker 1: and thank you. Pat. I have to like, I have

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Speaker 1: to call somebody and be like am I dying? And

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Speaker 1: then they have to be like no, And that's the

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Speaker 1: only way I can calm down. Well, well, for me,

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Speaker 1: it's just like my panic attack is late at night.

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Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh, was everything I've done so far

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Speaker 1: a big mistake? Yes, that's fine, which is crazy because

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Speaker 1: I'm wildly success, So how could that be? But now

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Speaker 1: I feel anxious? What's up? Listening? My shout out is

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Speaker 1: always the worst one, and I can never find my data. Well,

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Speaker 1: Sam always does a really good one, and then I

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Speaker 1: don't know what to do, and then the guest randomly

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Speaker 1: always does a really good one. Mine is not good.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't think of it. This is incredible, it was relatable.

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Speaker 1: And it's just more, I think the shout out as

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Speaker 1: a form is so such a Sam thing. It's like

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Speaker 1: it is exactly your sense of humor. And I'm so

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Speaker 1: like weird about doing any kind of character just because

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Speaker 1: I guess I don't feel like I have to hide

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Speaker 1: behind that. I heard you do an accent at a

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Speaker 1: Vulture Live reading and I was so impro I said, George,

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Speaker 1: you are full of little surprises, aren't you? Yeah, George, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: something Vulture sometimes remembers and sometimes forgets. You know. That's

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Speaker 1: what's beautiful about them, That's right. Shout out to Vultu,

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Speaker 1: Hey listeners, what's up? Listeners? Shout out to Forbes thirty

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Speaker 1: under thirty. Shout out to everyone under thirty. What you're

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Speaker 1: doing is beautiful. You are gone all no baby, I

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Speaker 1: think the younger you get successful, the better a person

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Speaker 1: you are. I think so too. Shout out to everybody

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Speaker 1: who becomes a millionaire and they're twenty. Yes, um should

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Speaker 1: be just like, we need to end. Kylie Jenner is

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Speaker 1: actually here for an Kylie's in the studio. Kylie stop,

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Speaker 1: Kylie's here and she's my god, she's biting her tonnail. Kylie, No,

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Speaker 1: not keep it with. The videos are rolling, the cameras

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Speaker 1: are the cameras are on. We're we need to stop. Okay,

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Speaker 1: should we actually stop? Yeah? Okay, nothing but respect to

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Speaker 1: all our fans. Okay, Oh my god, I'm just like