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Nick Wright, Greg 12 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: Olsen stop by one hour from now. 13 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 3: The Herd Hierarchy. It is Veterans Day. 14 00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 1: Thank you to the men and women who so nobly 15 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:47,360 Speaker 1: serve our country. Thank you very much. Jmech we have 16 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: a show today. There's some questions on what we all 17 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 1: watched last night. It was it was a rough wat 18 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 1: you did. I made sure I got a nap. I 19 00:00:58,040 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: wanted to stay up late. Halfway through the game, I'm like, well, 20 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 1: why did I stay over for this? It's unwatchable, but 21 00:01:03,800 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: it does create a lot of interesting scenarios that packers 22 00:01:07,640 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: schedule pretty dicey going forward. Now that's Chicago's legit, So 23 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: let's start with this is Green Bay's problem A Jordan 24 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Love issue, a Matt Lafleur issue, injuries to wide receivers 25 00:01:22,720 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: and tight end issue. Well whatever, They've regressed in almost 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: every offensive category three straight weeks. I don't feel like 27 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: Matt Lafleur has a ton of trust for Jordan Loves. 28 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: I mean, how many yards passing in the first half 29 00:01:35,120 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: thirty nine six completions. Now, Jordan Love has great traits 30 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: six four, two, twenty, good arm moves. He would be 31 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 1: the number one pick if he came out today. Big 32 00:01:43,360 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: strong kid with a big time arm. Runs well. But 33 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: I've seen Ben Johnson and Caleb grow in eight to 34 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: nine weeks. We're six years in the Lafleur and Jordan Love, 35 00:01:53,560 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: and you get these weird stretches where it feels like 36 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,080 Speaker 1: they're grinding gears. We've got six years of these two. 37 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 1: Don't tell me it's defense. Philadelphia's defense middle of the pack. 38 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:08,799 Speaker 1: Carolina held him to thirteen points last week. Now, Usually 39 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 1: if it's you know, a quarterback issue, even bad quarterbacks 40 00:02:14,480 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: or limited quarterbacks are good on script, like JJ McCarthy. 41 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 1: Not Green Bay. Their offense is broken. They haven't scored 42 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: an opening drive touchdown since Week four against Dallas. They 43 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: can't even get the scripted stuff right. So this offense 44 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: is broken, nothing's working. But you know what I felt 45 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: last night watching this game. I felt like I was 46 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:44,399 Speaker 1: watching two quarterbacks who are dealing with the same thing. 47 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:51,000 Speaker 1: Is that the difference between Hurtz and Jordan Love and 48 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: the elite guys is noticeable when they don't have a 49 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: run game. Kate Justin Herbert is on a three game 50 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: winning streak with the worst O line in football on 51 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: a third string running back. Mahomes won a Super Bowl 52 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: with an average run game and a blow average receiving corps. 53 00:03:06,440 --> 00:03:08,640 Speaker 1: I mean, Lamar Jackson wins twelve games a year. Is 54 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 1: he ever had a number one receiver? Good tight ends? 55 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:18,880 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts and Jordan Love, they're not that Both last 56 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: year had an exceptional run game. You know where the 57 00:03:22,600 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 1: Packers and the Eagles run games are ranked this year, 58 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: twentieth twenty. 59 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 3: First, these guys need more. 60 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 1: There's about five quarterbacks on the planet. Herbert's one of them. Mahomes, Lamar, Josh, 61 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,440 Speaker 1: they don't need a run game. I mean, Josh Allen 62 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: got to an AFC Championship with no run game. 63 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,160 Speaker 3: Years ago. 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow got to a Super Bowl with a battle line. 65 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: That's not what these guys are. They are good quarterbacks 66 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 1: and good guys and good leaders. They're not top five 67 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 1: guys in the league, and top five guys don't need 68 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: as much. Can't get to super Bowls with completely flawed teams. 69 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: That Burrow team that got to the Super Bowl was 70 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: wildly flawed. I mean, it's one of the least it's 71 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 1: one of the least impressive roster that's ever gotten to 72 00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 1: a super Bowl. 73 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 3: Go look at the. 74 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: Chargers O line right now. That Justin Herbert's getting hit 75 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 1: fifteen times, three game winning street. So I think reality 76 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: with Jordan Love and Jalen Hurts is when you give 77 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: them a dominant run game. Man, they're tough, they're thrown 78 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: on play action, they're using their legs. They're good franchise quarterbacks. 79 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: There's about five guys at any one time in my 80 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: life in the planet that can reach conference championships, not 81 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: have a good run game, bunch of injuries everywhere. Coach 82 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: is good, not great, incredibly rare. That's Burrow esque, that's 83 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: Lamar right, here's Matt lafleuor after. 84 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 4: I don't sense any quick in there. Obviously, it's a 85 00:04:58,440 --> 00:05:03,359 Speaker 4: good football team that we won against, and we just 86 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 4: got to be better offensively is really the message. And 87 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 4: I thought our defense played really well. I thought we 88 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,440 Speaker 4: did some good things on teams, and unfortunately, like I 89 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 4: said all along, it's just you got to find a 90 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 4: way to score more points. And it starts, it starts 91 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 4: with myself, and then we got to there's some level 92 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 4: of execution that has to go with that as well. 93 00:05:24,240 --> 00:05:26,559 Speaker 1: Listen, Matt Lafleur is a good coach, is he? Andy 94 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Reid probably not, Bill Parcells, Jimmy Johnson probably not good coach. 95 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: Jordan loves good quarterback. He's not great, he's good. And 96 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: by the way, if you have a good quarterback Daniel 97 00:05:39,320 --> 00:05:43,160 Speaker 1: Jones who's now become a good quarterback with some flaws 98 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: fumble issues. 99 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 3: They're gonna win their division. 100 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: They're gonna host a playoff game. The problem for Green 101 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 1: Bay is, oh, Detroit's got a better roster in Chicago's legitimate. 102 00:05:55,240 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: Go look at that packer schedule, that loss last night. 103 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: It's gonna get truck Key navigating this. They got to 104 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 1: figure out that offense. They are lost right now, all right. 105 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: So I don't know if you noticed this last night 106 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: with Michah Parsons. He didn't have a sack, he didn't 107 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:19,840 Speaker 1: have a quarterback hit. Let me check the stats. Oh, 108 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:24,799 Speaker 1: it's the second straight game, no sacks, no quarterback hits. 109 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,600 Speaker 1: Remember when the Cowboys traded him, the reaction was completely 110 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:33,039 Speaker 1: over the top. You were only allowed one opinion. Oh, 111 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: this is a heist for the backers. Oh, they stole 112 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 1: him from Jerry and the Cowboys. But there was this 113 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:46,880 Speaker 1: one singular voice in the American sportsland case escape, just 114 00:06:46,960 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 1: a tiny humble voice from a tiny humble man me 115 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: who said I get it. 116 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: I get it. 117 00:06:57,040 --> 00:07:00,080 Speaker 1: I've seen Miked get engulfed by good left tackles. What 118 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 1: are his playoff numbers? There's a way to go at Micah. Yeah, 119 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: remember that, I was the one guy that raised his 120 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: hand and said I got I got a couple first 121 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: round picks. 122 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 3: And Kenny Clark all right. 123 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: Green Bay last season through nine games, six and three, 124 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: green Bay this season through nine with Micah five three 125 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: and one. Dallas last year through nine games three and six, 126 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: Dallas this year through nine, three, five and one. 127 00:07:30,920 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 3: This is not the NBA. We're amazing. 128 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:39,440 Speaker 1: Dunk a windmill dunk can super seed production. It will 129 00:07:39,440 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: define you dunks will define you. This is the NFL, 130 00:07:43,640 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: and Micah's rep has always been he is a splash player, 131 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:51,040 Speaker 1: a remarkable athletic splash player. 132 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 3: He's not good against the run. 133 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: Right now ed rushers, He's twenty eighth in the league 134 00:07:55,120 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: against the run. Miles Garrett is elite at both TJ. 135 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: Watt good against the run and the pass. He's more versatile. 136 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: Max Crosby good against the run, great against the pass. 137 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 3: That's not Micah. 138 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: I mean. The truth is, I was talking this summer 139 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: to an NFL GM as a humble man. I was 140 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: on a park bench all by myself, just me and 141 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: the iPhone, and I was talking to an NFL GM, 142 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: and I said. 143 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 3: What would you do with Micah? 144 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: And he's in This GM said, you know the funny 145 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,320 Speaker 1: thing about Micah when he got to Dallas. You know, 146 00:08:32,320 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: they tried to make him a linebacker and drop him 147 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: into coverage. It didn't last very long because he couldn't 148 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: do it. This GM said, he doesn't have great eyes. 149 00:08:42,559 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: He's more the heat seeking missile. See the quarterback, get him, 150 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: see the ball. 151 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 3: Get it. 152 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with that. DeMarcus Lawrence of the Seahawks 153 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,719 Speaker 1: jokes around this weekend. He said, Yeah, our defense in 154 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: Seattle for me is sea ball, get ball. It's kind 155 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: of an old expression in the NFL. Micah is a 156 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: great athlete and the heat seeking missile. He is great 157 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: to have in green Bay when they lead games of 158 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, but when they don't and the offense 159 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: dries up, He's not very good against the run, and 160 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 1: so Philadelphia at the end of a game can try 161 00:09:09,679 --> 00:09:12,959 Speaker 1: to run the clock down and just run at Micah. 162 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's not worth the first round pick. 163 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:18,520 Speaker 1: I'm not saying he didn't have value on the right team. 164 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: Bill Poonian told me this year's ago, when your offense 165 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 1: is humming, you get a Peyton Manning. Next thing, you 166 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: need a left tackle than an edge rusher because you're 167 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: going to be leading games with six minutes to go 168 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: and they have to pass. The other guys have to pass. 169 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:33,959 Speaker 1: So I like the move for green Bay, but this 170 00:09:34,120 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: idea made no sense for Dallas. No, I get it 171 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark and two first, I get Kenny Clark's good player. 172 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,559 Speaker 3: So Jerry Jones, remember after. 173 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:50,080 Speaker 1: The the Micah trade that was panned by everybody, Jerry 174 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 1: had a little tell on his view on Micah. 175 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 5: Micah is special and we all know he is, and 176 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 5: he can be disrupted, but we have huge amounts of 177 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 5: experience with the anecdotes that we've sag used on us 178 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:13,199 Speaker 5: for the last four years. While he does make great plays, 179 00:10:13,559 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 5: there is also a way to approach playing against Micah, 180 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 5: as we know because we didn't exactly win the Super 181 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:22,080 Speaker 5: Bowl during those years. 182 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, they tried ament linebacker. No, he wasn't that versatile. 183 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: You can run at him. He's great when green Bay's 184 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: offense is humming, but the last two weeks, green Bay's 185 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,640 Speaker 1: offense isn't humming. So teams that face green Bay don't 186 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 1: have to in obvious downs throw. They don't have to. 187 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: They can run, they can throw, they can do play 188 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 1: action what Carolina did, what Philadelphia did, and you can 189 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: run at him. So I can think two things. Love Micah. 190 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 1: Great fit for the Packers, but the reaction was so overwrought. 191 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: Dallas got nothing from it to first and Kenny Clark. 192 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: That's that's pretty good. Now they have Quinn and Williams 193 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 1: still too. First next year. It was pretty good when 194 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: Dallas drafts an edge rusher with their first pick in 195 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: the next draft, because they don't need a quarterback. You're 196 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: gonna have Quinn Williams Kenny Clark in a first round 197 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: ed rusher. That's that's elite. That's why the Eagles went 198 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 1: and got Jalen Phillips because they got two interior guys 199 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,040 Speaker 1: that are great, and now they've got an elite edge 200 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: rusher Phillips. So just saying there was a there was 201 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: a small, timid man, a humble man in the forest 202 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: of yelling and screaming. J Mack, you remember that day 203 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 1: when we just said slow down to first, Kenny Clark. 204 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: It's a very nice package you could because you. 205 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:45,920 Speaker 3: Don't need a quarterback. 206 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:48,679 Speaker 1: You could move down in the first and get more 207 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,239 Speaker 1: picks with it, because the seven teams need a quarterback. 208 00:11:51,840 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 1: So I think that Micah last night, no sacks, no 209 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 1: quarterback hits second week in a row. 210 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 3: Well, I I you're my dear friend. 211 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:00,520 Speaker 6: I like you a lot. 212 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 7: I'll just stand by aside and say I disagree with 213 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:05,840 Speaker 7: this take badly. 214 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:06,360 Speaker 5: I won't. 215 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 7: I won't tell you that Micah is still the defensive 216 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 7: Player of the year favorite, that he's third in the 217 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 7: league in pressures, that the Packers are going to be 218 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 7: fined defensively. I got questions about Jordan Love, but I 219 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 7: still think Packers won that won that deal handling. 220 00:12:22,640 --> 00:12:25,319 Speaker 3: Herd hierarchy. One hour from now? What do we do? 221 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,640 Speaker 1: What do Who's the best team in the league, Who's 222 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: the second third? What do we do with the Chiefs 223 00:12:30,880 --> 00:12:31,400 Speaker 1: in Denver? 224 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 5: Well? 225 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,480 Speaker 1: Denver's better? Well, their record is, but look who the 226 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: favorite in the game is. Do you put Buffalo in? 227 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: Do you put Green Bay in? 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He has over eight hundred 250 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:57,520 Speaker 1: yards after contact after he's been hit. So this offense 251 00:13:57,640 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: is the real deal. It's got a ceiling. But I 252 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: put Indie they gotta be in here. I put them 253 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: at ten, number nine. Justin Herbert's unbelievable. The Chargers have 254 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: the worst pass blocking line I think I've ever seen, 255 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: and yet their second best in the NFL on third down. 256 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: How they're a number three running back. How the fact 257 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 1: that they're six and one against the AFC, three and 258 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: zero against their division. They don't really have a true 259 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: number one on their third best running back. And the 260 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: pass blocking line is egregiously bad. Justin Herbert's been hit 261 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:42,120 Speaker 1: pressured one hundred and thirteen times, second place twenty four 262 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:45,640 Speaker 1: fewer times. Herbert and Harbaugh deserve to be in here. 263 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: Nine number eight Lions. 264 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 3: Listen, they win. 265 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,200 Speaker 1: They haven't lost back to back game since like twenty 266 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 1: twenty two, longest streak in the league. So and say 267 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: what you want. Jared Goff se any plus completion percentage 268 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,080 Speaker 1: in eight straight road games. That extends an NFL record. 269 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:07,840 Speaker 1: We always thought of him as good inside bad on 270 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: the road. He looked pretty good to me. They've got 271 00:15:10,840 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: multiple guys with eight plus touchdowns armor on Saint Brown, 272 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: Jamiir Gibbs. You know, do we trust Dan Campbell situationally 273 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: in big spots. I don't know if I do. He 274 00:15:21,840 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 1: took over play calling duties this weekend. Not great Detroit 275 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 1: at eight, number seven Ravens don't care about their record. 276 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 1: These aren't standings. Basically, they average thirty points a game 277 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 1: and six point one yards of play when Lamar Jackson plays, Sorry, 278 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna make the list. Also, if they play the NFC, 279 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,680 Speaker 1: take them. They're twenty five and three. I like the 280 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: roster when healthy, I like the quarterback, I like the coach. 281 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 1: Don't care much about the record. As long as they 282 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: stay healthy, they'll be a playoff team. They're gonna win 283 00:15:54,160 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: this Division. I think after you watch Pittsburgh against the Chargers, 284 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: that's fairly obvious. 285 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,360 Speaker 2: Number six. 286 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,560 Speaker 1: You can't keep winning this way, and I don't think 287 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,600 Speaker 1: they're going to beat Kansas City this weekend. They're one 288 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: of two teams, the Saints or the other, to trail 289 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: in every game. It's not sustainable. But they've won seven 290 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: games in a row because their coach is great, their 291 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: defense is stacked. 292 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 3: Their O line's excellent. 293 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,960 Speaker 1: Fewest sacks allowed yet most sacks delivered. 294 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: That's very rare in the NFL. 295 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: I got Denver at six, number five, But Kansas City's 296 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: gonna beat them this weekend. They're the current favorite to 297 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: beat them this weekend, and they've outgained seven to the 298 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: last eight opponents. 299 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: Listen. I don't love their run game, but I mean 300 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: I went back and looked this morning. 301 00:16:38,520 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: How many great run games as Patrick Mahomes had coach 302 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: coordinator weapons. 303 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 3: I like them. 304 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:47,920 Speaker 1: You know, Buffalo tends to circle the wagons and play 305 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: their best game every year in the regular season against 306 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Congratulations, how's that working out for you? I 307 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 1: got Kansas City at five, number four, the Enigmatic Eagles 308 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: at four. Listen, they're four and one against teams with 309 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: winning records. They sort of played to their competition. So 310 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: they beat the Rams and the Chiefs and the Bucks 311 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:08,200 Speaker 1: and the Packers. They beat good teams and they beat 312 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:10,520 Speaker 1: them on the road. They do not give the ball up. 313 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: I said this about Caleb Williams. He doesn't throw picks. 314 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: The Eagles don't turn the ball over, and they're very 315 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 1: good in the red zone. So again, playoff football, November 316 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: football is situational football. 317 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 3: It's winning on the road, and they do. 318 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: And by the way, Jalen Phillips, you notice last night 319 00:17:28,359 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: they pressured Jordan Love on forty percent of his dropbacks. 320 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,919 Speaker 1: That is a heist to get Jalen Phillips at the 321 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 1: trade deadline for a third down pick, and if he leaves, 322 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: you get a third round pick back. That is great GMing. 323 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:45,440 Speaker 1: Number three the Patriots, I mean, they go to Buffalo, 324 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: they win, They play tampaffa bye, they win. Drake May 325 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 1: eight and nine games, one hundred plus passer rating, I'm sorry, 326 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,600 Speaker 1: and he's doing it without a number one wide receiver, 327 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,120 Speaker 1: a good not great offensive line. They're five and zero 328 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 1: on the road. That counts for something on this list. 329 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: And they've got a lockdown corner and almost nobody in 330 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: the league does. 331 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 3: They're seven to zero one. 332 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 1: Christian Gonzales out of Oregon plays, so I mean, you're 333 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: just watching a great coach, a great emerging quarterback. Kyle 334 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: Williams the wide receiver, and Traveon Henderson play them please 335 00:18:20,400 --> 00:18:21,120 Speaker 1: this weekend. 336 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,400 Speaker 3: They did, and they were exceptional. 337 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: Number two the Seahawks best point differential in the NFC. 338 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 1: Sam Darnold is the highest quoted quarterback in the league. 339 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,920 Speaker 3: I mean, he's just fantastic. 340 00:18:35,119 --> 00:18:39,159 Speaker 1: Tied for the fewest sacks all out on offense, so 341 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: they've got there can be a little reckless. Donald has 342 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: the weirdest turnovers. Rickocheng balls up a tight end helmet. 343 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: But turn the sound down and look at this def 344 00:18:50,840 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: It reminds me of Kansas City's defense about three years 345 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,440 Speaker 1: ago when it was really young. Turn the sound down. 346 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: There is no faster defense in this league. Everybody runs, 347 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: the safeties, the linebackers, the edge rushers. Everybody runs on 348 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: this team. Depth everywhere, no glaring hole. Seattle at two 349 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: number one, but the Rams are a more efficient version 350 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: of Seattle. You don't get the penalies, you don't get 351 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: the turnovers. Once again, pff Radson is the number one team, 352 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:22,359 Speaker 1: the number one offense, the number three defense. Now Seattle's 353 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,880 Speaker 1: got a quarterback that can move around. Kansas City does, 354 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: Buffalo does, Baltimore does. I do think as a purely 355 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,199 Speaker 1: pocket quarterback, you can get into those weird situations if 356 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: you're not running the ball, their offense. 357 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 3: Can get stuck. 358 00:19:35,119 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: But right now, coaching quarterbacking, run game, pass, rush, no penalies, 359 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 1: they don't turn it over. 360 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: They are the cleanest team in the league. 361 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 362 00:19:50,119 --> 00:19:52,119 Speaker 2: and noon eastern non a Empacific. 363 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 8: Thanks Major Daniel Copeland Task Force thunder Camp Harriff John Kaway, 364 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 8: one of which. 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I want to get that 376 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:36,840 Speaker 1: out of the way. So you have been an advocate 377 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: for stop kicking field goals. 378 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 3: This is not the future. 379 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:44,359 Speaker 1: And it's interesting in the Bears Giants game, they had 380 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 1: an opportunity to go for it. The New York Giants 381 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 1: did and Brian dabol elects, now we're going to go 382 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,119 Speaker 1: for three. And we've been talking about this, the blue 383 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Tent stuff with Jackson Dart. That decision just gut feeling 384 00:20:58,119 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 1: when they got rid of him, because, by the way, 385 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,119 Speaker 1: they've had ten point leads on several teams, but now 386 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 1: without Scataboo, they can't kill the clock. They're not really 387 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 1: built now to get a lead and then just ball 388 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: control it. They're not unless Jackson Dart runs, and that's 389 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: problematic because you get dinged up. Why do you think 390 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: in the end they moved off Dable. 391 00:21:18,040 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, because I think Dabel is a really good football coach. 392 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 9: I think Dabel is a really good quarterback developer. I mean, 393 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 9: you look what he did with Josh Allen, you look 394 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:29,399 Speaker 9: what he did with you know what he's doing with 395 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 9: Jackson Dart. He obviously was the one who really wanted 396 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 9: Dirt in the first place. I think It really just 397 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 9: came down to the expert, you know, the powers to 398 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 9: be just determined. There's obviously a breakdown in our inability 399 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 9: to finish these games. I mean, to lose the four 400 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:48,000 Speaker 9: games that they did with double digit leads. Of course, 401 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 9: Denver being the biggest kind of head scratcher. I don't 402 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 9: think this had anything to do with they don't think 403 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 9: Dabel is a good offensive play caller, that he's not 404 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 9: a good quarterback developer, that he's not getting the best 405 00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 9: out of Jackson Dart and you know, a supporting cast 406 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,199 Speaker 9: that with scattaboo out and elite neighbors, you know, with 407 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 9: the group around him is not particular particularly dynamic and explosive. 408 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 9: They're still in the ability to get leads in the game. 409 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 9: I think they're looking at it as our decision making, 410 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 9: our game management, our processes towards the end are just 411 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,680 Speaker 9: obviously not where they need to be, and I think 412 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 9: if they were, they'd have maybe four more wins if 413 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 9: they're being greedy, but at least two or three. And 414 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:30,280 Speaker 9: so I think it's more about overall management of games, 415 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 9: decision making, more of that than it is the pure 416 00:22:33,680 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 9: x's and o's the development of the quarterback, So I 417 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 9: think that was probably the final straw. And of course 418 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:44,679 Speaker 9: the field goal was a big storyline. We covered it 419 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 9: at length. That's a larger story going on all across 420 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 9: the league. It kind of played itself out, as you know, 421 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 9: in a moment there in the fourth quarter of the 422 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 9: Giants game, kicking from goal to go. I would never 423 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:57,760 Speaker 9: kick a field goal goal to go unless it was 424 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 9: to literally win the game. But that's a longer conversation 425 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,760 Speaker 9: with the new kickoff rules and field position and strategy, 426 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 9: but it's hard to say it came down to one decision. 427 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 6: I think that was a factor in it. I really just. 428 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,520 Speaker 9: Think it was the totality of the entire situation over 429 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:14,679 Speaker 9: the last couple of years. They felt that there was 430 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 9: more wins that ended up being the case. 431 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,640 Speaker 1: How do you explain Caleb Williams JJ McCarthy's good on script, 432 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: bad off it. Caleb actually has been great late over 433 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:27,440 Speaker 1: the last several weeks. 434 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:30,000 Speaker 3: How do you explain that? What did your eyes see? 435 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: Why the struggles and then all of a sudden in 436 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,000 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, he does a bo Nicks, he does 437 00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:36,960 Speaker 1: a Peyton Manning. He's like, okay, I'm just going to 438 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: control the game every snap. 439 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 6: He was incredible. That is the bet. 440 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 9: Now, granted I haven't watched every snap of every moment 441 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 9: since he's come into the league. 442 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 6: Call it the last year and a half. That was 443 00:23:49,000 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 6: by far. 444 00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 9: The best Caleb Williams performance in his young career. And 445 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 9: you know, you can look at last year and you 446 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 9: know there was a lot of chaos going on and 447 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:01,199 Speaker 9: your coach is getting fired and offense coordinator changes. But 448 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 9: if we just say, okay, this year is his first 449 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 9: year of stability, first year with Ben Johnson, this is 450 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 9: the Caleb we're going to evaluate. 451 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 6: It's not even close. 452 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 9: I mean his ability, they were historically bad last year, 453 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,480 Speaker 9: colin taking sacks, and part of that is his willingness 454 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 9: to play off script and his ability to extend plays, 455 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 9: and he brings a lot of the pressure on himself. 456 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 6: But this year, I mean, the Giants had him dead 457 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,080 Speaker 6: to rights ten times. They could not get him on 458 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 6: the ground. 459 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 9: And then the piece that came together for him, especially 460 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 9: in the fourth quarters, not only could they not get 461 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 9: him on the ground, his ability to drive the ball 462 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 9: accurately in scramble drilled downfield. I mean, if his receivers 463 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 9: they had six drops by far the most of the 464 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:43,199 Speaker 9: year for them. 465 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 6: I think they only had seven coming into the game. 466 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 6: Drops were an issue. 467 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 9: It was cold, it was windy, but it had no 468 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 9: impact on his ability to drive the ball beyond time. Now, 469 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 9: do you want to play off script football? Is that 470 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 9: sustainable over long periods of time? No, we have seen 471 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,240 Speaker 9: that time time again. There has to be an element 472 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,160 Speaker 9: of There has to be an element of rhythm, there 473 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 9: has to be an element of timing. And I think 474 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 9: that's still the balance that Ben Johnson's trying to bring 475 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 9: out of Caleb. I think they'ugh when things break down 476 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 9: in today's NFL, which is going to be often past 477 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:16,880 Speaker 9: protection is very difficult. 478 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 6: The rushers are very good. Scheme is good. 479 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 9: You have to have a quarterback that can make second, 480 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 9: second level plays, meaning it's not the initial read, it's 481 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 9: not the initial timing. I got a playoff script. He 482 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 9: can do that as well as anyone. As they continue 483 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 9: to get him into more of the on time rhythm 484 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:36,720 Speaker 9: component of Ben Johnson's drop that game. If that continues 485 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:40,440 Speaker 9: to develop, That's what Chicago thought they were drafting last year. 486 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:45,320 Speaker 1: So I felt like watching Green Bay and Philadelphia, I 487 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: was watching kind of the same thing is that both 488 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: these quarterbacks when they had elite rushing games last year, 489 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: were really excellent. But they're not Mahomes or Lamar or Allen. 490 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: Is that if you take the running game away from 491 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: both good but you see the holes. So I could 492 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: blame La Floor, I could blame the injuries. But Green 493 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:10,679 Speaker 1: Bay to me, their inability to run the ball puts 494 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 1: more pressure, more throws on Jordan and I think he's 495 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 1: a really good quarterback. But in my life, Greg, there's 496 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: been about five quarterbacks that Joe Burrow can get to 497 00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 1: the super Bowl with an atrocious old line that can 498 00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: win games like Justin Herbert, without a run game or 499 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: a tackles that's very unique. There's five or six guys 500 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: in the planet. And I think Hurts and Love are good, 501 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,720 Speaker 1: but the run games for both have disappeared, and that 502 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,400 Speaker 1: means more on them. That's my view, and that that's 503 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 1: maybe not what they are. I mean, I can't explain 504 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: Green Bay's offense outside of that. 505 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 3: What do you see? 506 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 9: Yeah, I had the green Bay game, so I saw 507 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 9: him two weeks ago in the home loss in Lambeau 508 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 9: to the Panthers, which yep, you know they only scored 509 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 9: thirteen points, so they've scored twenty points in the last 510 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,520 Speaker 9: two games. With going into the Panther game watching Jordan 511 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,000 Speaker 9: Love this year, just the eye test and then diving 512 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 9: into some of the more metric driven analysis of just 513 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 9: evaluating quarterbacks, you know, looking past pass protection, looking past 514 00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 9: opened routes, by scheme, like, there's a lot of ways 515 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 9: to really like determine how much of this is quarterback 516 00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 9: driven and how much of this is scheme and environment 517 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 9: driven by all metrics, film and advanced study. Going into 518 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 9: that Panthers game, I thought I thought Jordan Love was 519 00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 9: a top five quarterback in the league this season through 520 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 9: at the time it was seven or eight games, I 521 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 9: thought he was playing as well as anybody across the league. 522 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 9: And then what we've seen in the last two weeks 523 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 9: is you mentioned the run game, and I think there's 524 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,879 Speaker 9: two there's two components to that conversation, Right, there's a 525 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 9: lot to be discussed about run game value and importance. 526 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 6: Run game matters. Let's right, it does matter if you. 527 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,960 Speaker 9: Are Jonathan Taylor and Saquon Barkley last year, where they're 528 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 9: ripping off these large, chunk, explosive plays and they're running 529 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 9: for fifty yard touchdowns and forty yard touchdowns. You think 530 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 9: back to Saquon in the playoffs last year through their 531 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 9: Super Bowl with victory, like, yes, the run game was 532 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 9: so valuable because those forty to fifty yard touchdowns he's 533 00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,680 Speaker 9: running for are better than any pass play. 534 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,439 Speaker 6: But that is so hard to rely on. 535 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 9: Very few teams have a back in a system that 536 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 9: can generate those plays. So all of a sudden you 537 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 9: started saying, Okay, what is the value of the run game? 538 00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 9: We saw both teams last night really commit to staying 539 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 9: true to the run because the score allowed them. But 540 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,000 Speaker 9: then you look up at the scoreboard and it's three 541 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 9: to nothing at the end of the first half. So 542 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 9: at the end of the day, in the regular season, 543 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 9: scoring points is directly tied to passing game and explosive 544 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 9: run game. If you don't do those two things, you 545 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 9: are not going to score. You might have good time 546 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 9: of possession, you might run for a lot of total 547 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 9: gross yards, you're not going to score points in the 548 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:56,360 Speaker 9: regular season, which is an offensive driven time of year. 549 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 6: Now, postseason run games more valuable. 550 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 9: Defense is more valuable because we've gotten rid of all 551 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 9: the bad teams, all the bad teams are home sitting 552 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,240 Speaker 9: on the couch. It's now just good versus good. It's 553 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 9: not just what offenses can throw and score a lot 554 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,720 Speaker 9: of points. There's more value to it. So I think 555 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 9: they've got to get back to putting the ball in 556 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 9: Jordan Love's hand on first and second down, not being 557 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 9: in second and eight, because every first down is a run. 558 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,800 Speaker 9: Continue to push the ball downfield, continue to give his 559 00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 9: guys chances like that run game will get better the 560 00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 9: more aggressive they are with their early down passing game. 561 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 6: I think everyone. 562 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,520 Speaker 9: Always wants to look at it the other way, like 563 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 9: We're going to run them into run defenses and then 564 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 9: I'm gonna throw the ball over their head, when in reality, 565 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 9: the more I fear your passing game, the more favorable 566 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 9: situations both personnel. You're gonna play a lot of nickel 567 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 9: against me, a lot of little bodies on the field, 568 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 9: I'll run at that and light boxes. 569 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 6: All of a sudden, Now my passing game leads. 570 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 9: To my run game getting better, and it's typically not 571 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 9: the other way around. 572 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:56,400 Speaker 6: Most of the time. 573 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Seahawks rams that is a that's an assignment that is 574 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: going to be wild. Seattle's been a bit more reckless 575 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:10,160 Speaker 1: than the Rams. Rams are young on defense, not on offense. 576 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: The Seahawks are young everywhere. Go to your youngest team, 577 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:19,600 Speaker 1: Green Bay's young and they're inconsistent. Do you worry about 578 00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: in the end with Seattle is you know? You got Stafford, 579 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: and you got han steinright tackle, and you got Davonte. 580 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: There's a lot of beards. There's a lot of old 581 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: guys in this league. Seattle is kids in JSN, and 582 00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,480 Speaker 1: Darnold's still relatively young, and their best offensive lineman's a 583 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 1: rookie and their corners are young. How do you view 584 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: the game in Seattle's youth? Because I think Seattle is 585 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: stunning a lot of people. We all knew the Rams 586 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: will be fine. I don't think most people thought the 587 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 1: Seahawks could arguably the best be the best team in 588 00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 1: the league. 589 00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 6: Yeah, first off, we're beyond excited. 590 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 9: We've been thinking about this game since they gave us 591 00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 9: the matchup a week or two ago. I think it's 592 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 9: the best matchup of the year. Now, how does the 593 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,680 Speaker 9: game play out and how does it live up? Nobody knows, 594 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 9: but I would make the argument these are two of 595 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 9: the top three teams at worst. I could probably make 596 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 9: a really strong argument it's one and two in any 597 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:14,480 Speaker 9: particular order. 598 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 6: I think they're so good on both sides of the ball. 599 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 9: I think your point about Seattle's youth is real, But 600 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 9: on some of the best teams that I've been on, 601 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 9: there is kind of like a ignorance's bliss to youth 602 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 9: where they're young, they're energetic, they're athletic, they're living, and 603 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,080 Speaker 9: they're loving every moment of this. We're like, they almost 604 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 9: don't even realize how hard what they're doing is. They 605 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 9: don't realize how hard it is to win at this level. 606 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 9: Like all they know is success, All they know is 607 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 9: winning because they haven't been in the league long enough 608 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 9: to have those scars. There's a power to that, right, 609 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 9: there's a beauty to that where we don't have to 610 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 9: undo any of these bad habits, we don't need to 611 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 9: undo any of these bad moments because you played on 612 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 9: another bad team, you know, five years ago. So I 613 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,160 Speaker 9: think they are young. I think they're extremely talented. They've 614 00:32:01,160 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 9: got a lot of star young players at multiple positions 615 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 9: on both sides of the field. And I get McDonald. McDonald, 616 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 9: I give them a lot of credit. After one year 617 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 9: of being a head coach. He took a look at 618 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 9: his offense last year and said, you know what, this 619 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 9: is not where we want to be and gino it 620 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 9: did not play bad by any stretch of the imagination. 621 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 9: And as an organization with which Snider and then they said, 622 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 9: you know what, we need to change of pace offensively, 623 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 9: they go out and they get Kubiak from New Orleans 624 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 9: who took the league by storm as a play caller 625 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 9: early the year, kind of fizzled when he lost Derek Carr. 626 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 9: They saw through that, they said, his vision of offense 627 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 9: is what we want to be here. We want to 628 00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:41,320 Speaker 9: be under center, we want to be play action, we 629 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 9: want to be explosive passing game. They get in a 630 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 9: lot of those big bodies. They put you in base 631 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 9: defense to throw the ball against you. It's a really 632 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 9: popular strategy that's becoming more kind of popular throughout the league. 633 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 6: I love. 634 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 9: And then defensively, you know, with a defensive head coach, 635 00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:58,960 Speaker 9: they're always going to put their identity there. 636 00:32:59,000 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 6: They're going to play fast. 637 00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 9: Witherspoon's a stud like at DeMarcus Lawrence, and what a 638 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 9: great signing that we've seen him kill people for years 639 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 9: in Dallas like it is a really fun team to watch. 640 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 9: They're good on both sides of the ball and everything 641 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 9: I just said, if you just swapped out the Rams, 642 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 9: maybe outside of some of the youth, it's the exact 643 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 9: same story. So yeah, it's it's in my mind, it's 644 00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:23,840 Speaker 9: the best matchup of the year with two of the 645 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,719 Speaker 9: best three or four teams, if we're being conservative, in 646 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:28,560 Speaker 9: the entire league. 647 00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 1: Hey, when you were in Chicago or Carolina, I don't 648 00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: have the exact years, but Stafford was in the league. 649 00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,680 Speaker 1: He was losing a lot of games in Detroit. So 650 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:40,560 Speaker 1: when you you had Cam and again Detroit wasn't talked about. 651 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 1: But as a tight end and as a guy who 652 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: really studies and thinks the game, did you know Stafford 653 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: was this good? 654 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,280 Speaker 3: Like what they was losing? But were you down? 655 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. If you were Chicago Carolina could have 656 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 1: been both and you had Aaron Rodgers dominating the division, 657 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,280 Speaker 1: and you had Brady and you had Manning and all 658 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: these guys. And there was that guy up in Detroit 659 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: and he was young and he was out of Georgia. 660 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: Did you ever think he'd be this? 661 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 6: I'll tell you. 662 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 9: You know what's so funny about the quarterback position, and 663 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 9: we still do it today. We do it all the 664 00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 9: time on both ends of the spectrum. We assume quarterbacks 665 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:19,399 Speaker 9: on bad teams are bad, and we assume that good 666 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:23,440 Speaker 9: that quarterbacks on good teams are good. So we probably 667 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 9: give quarterbacks too much of the credit at times, and 668 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 9: we probably give them too much of the blame at 669 00:34:29,239 --> 00:34:32,880 Speaker 9: times when oftentimes, outside of the few extremes, it's probably 670 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:37,360 Speaker 9: a combination of team environment, coaching, and player all thrown 671 00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:39,200 Speaker 9: into the pot and mixed up. So, I mean, you 672 00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 9: look back at some of the years he had with 673 00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:43,840 Speaker 9: Calvin Johnson, and yes, they lost a lot of games, 674 00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 9: and it was not you know, it was not the 675 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 9: Detroit Lions organization that we know now under Dan Campbell. 676 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 9: It was he was always so talented, the armed what 677 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,279 Speaker 9: we'd see he put up big numbers. Now, granted a 678 00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 9: lot of that was in playing from behind and chasing points. 679 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 6: But I think anybody. 680 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 9: Who watched football probably could could do a good job 681 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 9: separating the outcome wins and losses and watch Stafford play 682 00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:11,920 Speaker 9: and say, I know chaos is ensuing around him. I 683 00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 9: know this is dysfunction. I know there's coaching turnover and 684 00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 9: losses are out of high like, but this dude can 685 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 9: flat out play and then obviously we know what's happened. 686 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,800 Speaker 9: He gets put with artably the best coach in the league. 687 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,880 Speaker 9: You know, mcveigh's probably tough. You know, he's one or 688 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 9: two I don't know who you'd pick over him, and 689 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 9: he gets put into that environment. They have immediate success, 690 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,520 Speaker 9: of course, winning the Super Bowl, but then they experienced 691 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 9: some lows. 692 00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,879 Speaker 6: He went back. Now where can the Rams figured out 693 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 6: what's his future? Is he going to go? Is they 694 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 6: going to trade him to somewhere else? Is they going 695 00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 6: to retire? 696 00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 9: Like they went through some down years following that Super Bowl, 697 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 9: where I'm sure a lot of that experience from Stafford 698 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 9: paid dividends. You know, he had been in that chaos before. 699 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 9: And now obviously they're riding it up. They've drafted incredibly well. 700 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,680 Speaker 9: They've got really talented on the defensive the ball through 701 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,799 Speaker 9: the draft, and Stafford at you know, thirty eight years 702 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 9: old or whatever he is. I mean, he's probably the 703 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 9: MVP of the league. It's him and Drake May if 704 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:13,680 Speaker 9: the season ended today, and pretty remarkable journey for a 705 00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:17,920 Speaker 9: guy whose talent leadership everybody do you know that has 706 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 9: played with Stafford, whether they won one game or they 707 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 9: won the Super Bowl. 708 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:25,080 Speaker 6: Every teammate and coach loves him. 709 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:26,319 Speaker 3: Yeah they do. 710 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: And he's a pro. He puts in the time in 711 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 1: the film room. I've seen specials on him. He's a 712 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, he's a total pros pro. He's a grinder. 713 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: Greg Olsen, boy, I don't get jealous much. Seahawks rams 714 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: that that is a unbelievable matchup of just two stacked rosters, 715 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: and go crush it. Thanks man, appreciate you. 716 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,160 Speaker 6: Good seeing you.