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I don't want to send self aggrandizing We 10 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: broke the story written by a fabulous student journalist at 11 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: the University of California and Davis about a professor who 12 00:00:40,760 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: is on campus teaching openly advocating the murder of police officers. 13 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not being you know, I'm not parsoning, I'm 14 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:51,880 Speaker 1: not being lawyerly about it. The guy openly says cops 15 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: should be killed, and the University of California Davis and 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: they're easier to their easier to kill when their backs 17 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 1: are turned. One of his many comments incredible. He said, 18 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,520 Speaker 1: many people say the police should be reformed, they should 19 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 1: be killed. That's what he says. And the response from 20 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: the University of California system has been as you might expect, 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: mealy mouthed, legalistic and pathetic, citing Title nine among other things. Um. 22 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: But the but the righteous indignation of the good and 23 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,000 Speaker 1: normal people of America is starting to be aroused as 24 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: they hear more about this story, and we've invited James 25 00:01:34,319 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: Gallagher on. James is an assemblyman in California representing the 26 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: third District who is actually he's the product of the 27 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,759 Speaker 1: University of California system and joins us now to talk 28 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,720 Speaker 1: about it. Hey, James, how are you. Good morning, gentlemen. 29 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: Good to be with you. It's our pleasure. So listen. 30 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: We here at the Armstrong and Getty Show. We we 31 00:01:52,640 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: have kind of a libertarian point of view of things, 32 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:58,559 Speaker 1: and we don't like people faking outrage and demanding people 33 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 1: lose their jobs because they said some unfortunate or controversial 34 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 1: and that where you just agree with them, right. We 35 00:02:03,800 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: don't like that. Um, And so you know, people who 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: know us, no, it's pretty extraordinary for us to say 37 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 1: this is so horrific that the guy should not be 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 1: in front of young people teaching them. What's your point 39 00:02:15,200 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: of view about Professor Joshua Clover at the you see Davis. No, 40 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: I mean, and I listened to this show, by the way, 41 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: it's a great show. Thank you. And you know, see 42 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: when I started to read this article and got forwarded 43 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: to me actually by my wife. Um. You know, as 44 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: I went through this thing, I the matter I got, 45 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: you know, and you know, I just just to see 46 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: that this guy the things that he had said, and 47 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,679 Speaker 1: then when he was confronted about it, actually would not recant, 48 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: actually said, well, the real answer is to disband the police. Um. 49 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 1: And so you're you're really in this outlandis stuff. And 50 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: then I you know, I I texted a couple of 51 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: my buddies, you know, sending this study. They also are 52 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: Davis grads, and I said, can you believe you know 53 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: that this is the kind of stuff that's coming out 54 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 1: of the university that we received our degrees from, you know. Um, 55 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: And you know, as I talked to more and more people, 56 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: it's the same response, the same response that you gentlemen 57 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 1: had yesterday morning when you were talking about this story. Um, 58 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: I will say just one of the same day, as 59 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm reading this article, I'm like, man, this guy is 60 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,639 Speaker 1: a really good writer. A little bit jealous to myself, 61 00:03:26,680 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: so that that was also the point of Um for 62 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: a college scene is really a hell of a writer 63 00:03:32,200 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: in journalist anyway, go ahead, yeah, great piece. And then 64 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: you know, just so as we started talking to people 65 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,000 Speaker 1: and and uh, and I actually did put in a 66 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: call to the university, UM saying, hey, if you haven't 67 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 1: hear anybody else, you know, you can log it for me. Um, 68 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:50,360 Speaker 1: you know, this guy should be fired period. I mean, 69 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: there's no room for this. This is not this is no, 70 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: this is not a legitimate act in academic freedom has 71 00:03:57,640 --> 00:04:02,760 Speaker 1: no legitimate purpose towards you know, anything academic and nature. Um, 72 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 1: then it's it's clearly an incitement to violence, you know, 73 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 1: against a selected group of people. What do you think 74 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: is a guy who's pretty up on these issues that 75 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: they fell back on Title nine saying well, police aren't 76 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: a protected class under Title nine, so our teachers can 77 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: navocate murdering them. Well, to be honest, I don't know 78 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: exactly what Title nine says or doesn't say. Um, I 79 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 1: think everybody it's this is kind of intrinsic. I think 80 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 1: to all of us, UM, that free speech does not 81 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: mean that, for example, you can go punch someone in 82 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: the face for advocating a certain view on campuses. Happened 83 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: on Berkeley campus a couple of weeks ago. And it 84 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 1: doesn't mean that you can advocate for the death. Uh, 85 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 1: you know, ask people to go out and kill people 86 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: for whom that you have some sort of disagreement with. 87 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,359 Speaker 1: It's clearly not free speech. You know. In common a 88 00:04:52,400 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: place we are in our politics is U Republicans. Um, 89 00:04:56,360 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: how about how awful university campus are in Democrats stand 90 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: up for university campuses. Do you have colleagues that are 91 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 1: Democrats that think this is a bridge too far that 92 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: they're willing to to side with you? Um? Well, I 93 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,280 Speaker 1: haven't had a whole lot of conversations with my Democratic 94 00:05:13,320 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: colleagues yet on this, but yeah, I think that there's 95 00:05:15,800 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: a lot of Democratic members of the legislature who would 96 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: also say this is completely unacceptable. And I think it's 97 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 1: only people on the very radical, you know, very very 98 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: radical left who might stand up for this guy. I 99 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: can't imagine how many people are that far out there. 100 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 1: James Gallagher's a California assemblyman and uh, and we are 101 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: aiding him in an online petition to get this Joshua 102 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:46,480 Speaker 1: Clover fired from the University of California at the very least, um, 103 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,599 Speaker 1: and and we'd love for you to go to Armstrong 104 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: and Getty radio dot com and and sign it. Uh. 105 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: The response from the University of California is unintentionally hilarious. 106 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: The basis for academic freedom is to make sure that 107 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,960 Speaker 1: the university is a place where unpopular and different views 108 00:06:01,960 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 1: are heard in the way of banning any speaker to 109 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 1: the right of Mitt Romney for years, allowing the Heckler's veto, 110 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: and the fact that self identified liberals out the out 111 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: number self identified conservatives roughly seventy to one on California 112 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: college campuses. That is some of the finest most dry 113 00:06:20,800 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: humor I have heard, uh in a lifetime. And I 114 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: credit the who is at the chancellor, whoever it is, 115 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: um with some really hilarious stuff there. Um, what do 116 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: you say to the argument that they make, Well, it's 117 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 1: academic freedom, assemblyman. You know, we have to have unpopular 118 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: views on campus. Who as a as an someone who 119 00:06:42,000 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: went to undergrad at Berkeley, I'm kind of used to 120 00:06:45,800 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: this type of stuff actually, And um, uh, you know, 121 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 1: I was a conservative student who was part of the 122 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:56,520 Speaker 1: college Republicans on campus often said, never trust a college republican. 123 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,600 Speaker 1: I think a lot of liberals. But anyway, that's I 124 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:06,679 Speaker 1: haven't heard you say that, but you know, on that campus, 125 00:07:06,839 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: you know, it was it was pretty clear that the 126 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: university you know, oftentimes uh, you know, talks about diversity, 127 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: he talks about diversity of thought, UM, but in many 128 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: cases it was, you know, as long as it's a 129 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 1: liberal perspective, um. And then you know, in these cases, 130 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: I just like, why can't they figure this out? You know, 131 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 1: of course we want to diverse uh, diverse viewpoints and 132 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: and ideas expressed and talked about, UM. But that doesn't 133 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: mean that you allow for this kind of hateful dialogue 134 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: that's calling for death and hart and bodily harm to people. 135 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you allow for people with viewpoints to 136 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 1: be shouted down, you know and beaten, uh, you know, 137 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: and when Ben Shapiro comes to campus, you know, allowing 138 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: people to you know, basically beat people and throw molotov 139 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: cocktails at the uh, you know, campus buildings, you know, 140 00:07:59,680 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: white you see, and some of these other you know, 141 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 1: the University of California and others figure this out that 142 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 1: what free speech actually means. James Gallagher California Assemblyman James. 143 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: We appreciate at the time and you're helping out on 144 00:08:12,200 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: this because we think it's important. You know, one note 145 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 1: just for folks who don't remember, are not familiar with it, Davis, California, 146 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 1: is where very close to the campus on one of 147 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: the main arteries where students come and go. A a 148 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 1: beautiful in spirit. Twenty two year old young woman was 149 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: a young police officer, was executed by an anti cop guy. 150 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: He was a troubled guy, obviously, but she was murdered 151 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,559 Speaker 1: in cold blood. You know, a ten minute walk from 152 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: where this guy teaches, advocating the murder of police officers. 153 00:08:44,559 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: And it's just it's absolutely unconscionable. And again we don't 154 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 1: twist words around here. I mean, it's easier to shoot 155 00:08:52,559 --> 00:08:55,440 Speaker 1: cops when their backs are turned. No, he tweeted. I'm 156 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 1: thankful that every living cop will one day be dead. 157 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: He tweeted. In an extended and review with San Francisco Weekly, 158 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: just a couple of years ago, people think that cops 159 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: need to be reformed, they need to be killed, he said. 160 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:11,080 Speaker 1: Beautiful teaching your kids at an extremely high cost. If 161 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: you're a professor who said abortion is murder regularly in 162 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: your class. You'd be done right right, hope please, you'd 163 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: never get hired. No immigrants should be deported immediately. You'd 164 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: never get you wouldn't get an interview. I like to murder. 165 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: I think you should murder cops. Oh sure, remember in 166 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: good standing of the academia. When you're ready to ride Metro, 167 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 1: we want you to know we're ready for you. 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