1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Change that stimulus up, change up. You know, he was, oh, 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: we're shooting. He's like tapping us in the freaking head 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,880 Speaker 1: with an arrow and like just slowing down, concentrating on 4 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 1: the things in front of you. 5 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 2: And it was kind of crazy. 6 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,920 Speaker 1: You know what he had us do with the bow 7 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,919 Speaker 1: without drawing or anything. He's like, all, right, cover up 8 00:00:16,960 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: the eyeball of the We had an elk out there, 9 00:00:19,400 --> 00:00:21,920 Speaker 1: and you know, you think, oh, I can't get there, 10 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: but you're you naturally just always come back to it 11 00:00:24,400 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: as long as you pick out, you know, a small spot, 12 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: and so it was it was pretty eye. 13 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: Opening and uh, just really cool. 14 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: You know you almost what I kind of took away 15 00:00:34,040 --> 00:00:35,840 Speaker 1: from it is, once you're set up here, your brain 16 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: will naturally keep coming back to that center spot and 17 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: you've just got to execute out here. 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 2: The stakes are real. Effective. Preparation starts with fitness, but 19 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: it requires so much more. 20 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: This show explores the tools, knowledge, resilience, and skills needed 21 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 1: to be ready when it matters the most. Join me 22 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: Rich Browning as we apply the decades of wisdom I've 23 00:01:02,520 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 1: gained through training and competition to hunting in the back. 24 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: Hunting this is in Pursuit brought to you by Mouth 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: Knobs in collaboration with Mayhem Hunt. 26 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 2: Second Spike Camp episode. 27 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: You guys just got back from Illinois getting some stuff 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: ready at the place we're gonna hunt this fall. 29 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, apparently. Yeah, Angelo can't hunt there though, why Nelson said, 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah. 31 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,400 Speaker 4: Everyone else can. Though everyone else in Cochvilla can. 32 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 3: Luke can, just not Angela. That's the opposite of what 33 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 3: I would think it was before he was hired. So 34 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 3: Nelson was like, hey, can't just bringing Angela? Yeah, don't 35 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 3: believe bringing Angela here? Shoot up all deer? And then 36 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 3: and then Luke hung two stands. 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 2: Didn't I pay for it? 38 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 3: Uh? Half? 39 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 2: So Nelson? 40 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, so I I'll hunt on twenty of the forty acres. 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can hunt on my half. What's the dividing line? 42 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: What's the Mason Dixon line there? 43 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 4: Yeah? 44 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 5: And then uh, when we went out there, I was 45 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 5: giving Brian crap is say, Brian, you mind if I 46 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 5: go out here and hunter? 47 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 4: Or what? 48 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: Did I say? 49 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 4: What exactly? I say that, I like, you mind if 50 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 4: I come on here? And Oh? No, I said, you 51 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 4: got any hundred and fifty inch deer you need to 52 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,720 Speaker 4: kill out here. Here's no, he ain't allowed to hunt here. 53 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 2: Got on his place, so mad? Did you say he's 54 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 2: got some good stuff there? 55 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 3: Now he does? Yeah, Nelson hung stands all for a 56 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 3: southeast wind because his place is not set up for 57 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: a southeast wind at all. It's all northwest winds. 58 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,920 Speaker 4: So whenever he's like, I can't really hunt my farm, 59 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:41,399 Speaker 4: I'll just go over here and scare all the deer 60 00:02:41,440 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 4: away from here, you know, because like south wind is 61 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 4: just usually not that good for deer hunting. So he's like, well, 62 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 4: if it's just slow, I'll just go over there and 63 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 4: see what's going on. So basically he'll go ruin the 64 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,639 Speaker 4: deer hunting for us because he won't let us hunt 65 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 4: on the farm and then go ruin on his forty acre. 66 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: We're gonna pull all his stands, yeah, So. 67 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: He put south southwest stands on the least. 68 00:03:00,080 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 5: The last yeah, and then he has he has all 69 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:04,240 Speaker 5: really good stand setups at his farm. 70 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 71 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:08,360 Speaker 5: So when soon the hunt is good, he'll hunt his 72 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 5: farm when it's bad, and he's like, I'll just go 73 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:11,520 Speaker 5: up there and I'll kill a few days. 74 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 4: He'll hunt the least to ruin it for us. Basically, 75 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 4: is the way I gathered it, right, That's about what 76 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 4: I got. Seems to be the care. 77 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 2: So we're just gonna take him down. 78 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, we're gonna either take him down or or 79 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 4: just I don't know. 80 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 3: I don't know what we'll do. He only hung two. 81 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 3: One of them is not a good spot. When it 82 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:28,120 Speaker 3: is a good spot. 83 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 4: Which one's a bad spot? 84 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 5: That ladder stand, oh yeah yeah yeah. 85 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 4: The other the stands that we hung should be fine. 86 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: We'll see. Yeah, farmers come and cut the grass down. 87 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:43,600 Speaker 3: The grass. 88 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: You guys got hit up. The chicker is really bad. Everyone. 89 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, I've been taking a bendadr before I go to bed, 90 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 5: and it usually holds the itch. 91 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 4: Off for like twenty four hours until I take them again. 92 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 3: Is it still itchy? 93 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, they scab up. 94 00:03:57,560 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 5: I'm usually yeah, my scabs are Oh my god, I 95 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 5: look like a drug addict on the on when we're 96 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 5: like on on the plane, I like feel bad for 97 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 5: because Texas. 98 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 4: I felt bad that I was gonna someone's gonna. 99 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 3: Look a whole skirts section. It's just scatch looks rough. 100 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 1: He got it like when Trice got him when we 101 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: went Turkey hunting was two years ago. Me and Scott 102 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: didn't have did you have any? I didn't have one? 103 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 1: And Trice was just eat up with them. We're just 104 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 1: standing in this like I guess sugar nest. 105 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, what do they look like? They're like tiny little 106 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 5: bread red ones, right red. 107 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't think you usually see them. Really, no, Seams, 108 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,679 Speaker 3: you don't usually see him. Nobody. 109 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 5: Isn't there something called am you have to be at 110 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 5: the beach? 111 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: Right? 112 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: They did the same thing, all right, recap a Joel Turner. 113 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 3: Uh, it was super cool. I thought. Yeah, for Joel, 114 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: just two for one. The biggest like beef is working 115 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: out and shooting at the same time. 116 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, we got a ton of hate for that. 117 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 3: So for him to say he actually said it was beautiful. 118 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,880 Speaker 1: Beautiful, a lot of beautiful. He likes, uh quote, he 119 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 1: likes he shoots on one foot. I tried to like 120 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: even think about doing that the other day. The big 121 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: thing I need to do too is start working with 122 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:17,840 Speaker 1: my mouth, call and shoot, because I am not known 123 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 1: for stopping animals before I shoot them. 124 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,679 Speaker 3: Yeah, just firing one off fire away either. 125 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: Go there. 126 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 2: It is the words of Chris Stapleton fire away. Yeah. 127 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 5: It was cool because what he does and what we 128 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 5: do is very similar, so different, but like at the 129 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,720 Speaker 5: core of like we're like adding the chaos basically. It 130 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 5: was like that's like the common theme of like the 131 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 5: more chaos, the better. The more that you have to 132 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 5: the more you have going on around you, and everything 133 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 5: is going to help you get better at focusing on 134 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 5: the shot. 135 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: Once you have the fundamentals, once you have you know, 136 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: his big thing was and it it's so similar to 137 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: what we do. Just take a snatch for instance. You 138 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: know in my previous life when I could snatch a lot, 139 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: you know, hands set, feet our feet set. First, feet 140 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: were set, hands were set, and then everything else kind 141 00:06:06,520 --> 00:06:08,000 Speaker 1: of falls in line from there. You kind of have 142 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: this like how you attack the bar and bo or 143 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: shooting ARCHERI is no different. I took that from Wayne 144 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: at the bow rack a lot of that, you know, 145 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: like I draw anchor points, anchor points are set, Look, 146 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: find my level. Once my level's there, I'm on the target. 147 00:06:25,320 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 1: But my problem is and still is and working past is. 148 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: As soon as I'm on the target, I punch the trigger. 149 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: Everybody lets me know that on the internet, And so 150 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: Joel's big things were like yep, yep, yep, all that, 151 00:06:39,920 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: and then once you're set on that animal or however, 152 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,080 Speaker 1: you know, like, once you're you're on the target, you 153 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: forget about the front and now all he wants you 154 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 1: to think about is pulling as slow as you can 155 00:06:52,640 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: on whatever trigger or mechanism you're using. 156 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:59,240 Speaker 2: And it's a surprise, and I hate it. 157 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 4: He says, borderline, you're responsible. 158 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: I stole that actually from David Lane. 159 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: David Lane was like, this feels borderline irresponsible, and it's 160 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: so good because when that thing goes off, you're like, 161 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 1: I just flung the narrow into wherever. 162 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: So I've taken a lot of what he has. 163 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 1: Uh, he showed us and taught us, And I'm still 164 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: working on this complete surprise. But I still like, instead 165 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: of as soon as I get on the target, pull, 166 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,800 Speaker 1: I'll get on the target, settle a little bit, and 167 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: then pull and I'm still I guaranteed punching. But it's man, 168 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: I don't I do not like that feeling of complete surprise. 169 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: I know it probably is the best. 170 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 4: But it doesn't give you a chance to fight against 171 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 4: you No, I want to fight. 172 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, do you think so? Compared to like practicing to 173 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 3: actually hunting, should you take a longer time practicing because 174 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 3: let's face it, when when you're hunting, you have an 175 00:07:55,840 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 3: animal in front of you, you're gonna take less time. 176 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 3: So I wonder what while you're practicing, if you should 177 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:04,680 Speaker 3: purposefully take even longer. 178 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: Longer like you know what I mean, or three count ors. 179 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: You know, I do an account on the front. 180 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 5: I've done and I've done this a lot when especially 181 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 5: when I'm getting when it's getting closer to like actually 182 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 5: going out and shooting. Where I will I do a 183 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 5: couple of different things. I'll draw back and I'll hold 184 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 5: for like thirty seconds, like I might just set a 185 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,240 Speaker 5: timer and then draw back, hold it when the timer 186 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 5: goes off. Then I actually find where I'm gonna shoot 187 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 5: and then shoot, act as if something walk behind a 188 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 5: tree or something like that, or I will this is 189 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 5: like horrible if you have target panic, it's good, but 190 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 5: it's horrible. 191 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 4: You'll like I put it on the target and. 192 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 5: Then I'm like, I could shoot right now, and then 193 00:08:40,040 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 5: I take it off the target and I bring it 194 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 5: back up to the target, and I'm like, I could 195 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 5: shoot right now, and then I and I'll shoot, and 196 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 5: that way I can, like I can control what it's 197 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,319 Speaker 5: doing because everyone talks about where like I'm the same 198 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 5: way as you. I come up on it or either down. 199 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 5: If you come down on the same thing, you come 200 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 5: down on it. It's like you're right right here and 201 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 5: you cannot push the boat down, or if it's order 202 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 5: targets here, you can't get the ball. 203 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 3: I get stuck underneath. 204 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 4: You're like, oh my gosh, is the heaviest thing in 205 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 4: the world. 206 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: Something I've done, You're saying, getting stuck underneath it. It's 207 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: always that shoulder they get stuck. 208 00:09:10,040 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, crap. 209 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: And so what I've started doing is just lean in 210 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: a little bit more and it helps me get a 211 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: little bit. But another thing you were talking kind of 212 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: off camera was changing up your foot position. Do some 213 00:09:21,200 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 1: seeded do something you know, like you need to practice 214 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: in perfect situations. Get those mechanics down, figure out what 215 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: your kind of you know, like I said, I you know, 216 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:36,559 Speaker 1: find my anchor, points level, Once my level's there, find 217 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: the target, bring my pin to the target, settle on target. 218 00:09:39,760 --> 00:09:40,280 Speaker 2: Shoot right. 219 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: So you need to have those basics down. But from 220 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,640 Speaker 1: there you need to change up that stimulus as much 221 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,280 Speaker 1: as you can. I know people are going to freak 222 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:49,720 Speaker 1: out because they always do in our comments, but you know, 223 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: we do zone two, so conversation or people. 224 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 3: Freak out about zone two. Honestly, some people they see 225 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 3: like your zone two and then it's it's not comparable. 226 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 2: Oh yeah right, like mind's like one. 227 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 3: Four year zone two compared even like the what you take, 228 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: what you do for zone two compared like what I do, 229 00:10:10,720 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 3: it is not even comparable. Yeah, so maybe we should 230 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: just put more workouts in there conversation to make them chill. 231 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, well I'll say that. 232 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 1: You know we do the last year, last couple of years, 233 00:10:21,160 --> 00:10:22,840 Speaker 1: we've had it just kind of long slow, right, and 234 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:24,079 Speaker 1: then we did we talk to. 235 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 4: Last year that was like, yeah, we were on a podcast. 236 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, do some heavy lifting. 237 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 4: Yeah. 238 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: I can't remember his name. I'd love to give him 239 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: a shout out because he that was awesome. 240 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 4: It was at good ide because he said he was 241 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:33,440 Speaker 4: doing that because we did it. 242 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 2: I did it. 243 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 5: Some kind of lifting that doesn't affect your shoulders, like 244 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 5: a deadlift aft. 245 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: Your back squad heavy deadlifts three reps of four or five, 246 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: which is eighty ish. 247 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 2: It's low seventy five ish percent. 248 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 4: So it's heavy nervor system and. 249 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: Then grab the bow and it was way different. 250 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: You know, more like that kind of target panic when 251 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 1: they come out, you know, like if you're sitting in 252 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: a tree stand. 253 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 2: You know. We we had. 254 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: The whole situation last year in Idaho where we hiked 255 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: our face off for forty five minutes, and I mean 256 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: a hard It was a hard. 257 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: Hike. Got to the top. 258 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: Noah was like, since we got we're gonna go down. 259 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna kill this thing. And I'm like cool, and 260 00:11:17,800 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: it was. 261 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 3: And it was like a minute if that. 262 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, so still heart heart rate, We're still there. 263 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: Get down there, and then your heart rate jack's up 264 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: for another reason. Right, Yeah, that was good. The other 265 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 1: day we kind of messed around with trying to film 266 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: ourselves and we messed it up and I was not 267 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,679 Speaker 1: We did a bunch of shoulder stuff before and then 268 00:11:36,720 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: tried to shoot and it was just atrocious. 269 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: So I was like, ah, let's not use that. 270 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 1: But the penalty I was still paying my dues was 271 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,800 Speaker 1: either eight sets. We were gonna say eight to ten 272 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: sets at like a one fifty pace on the bike ERG, 273 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:50,960 Speaker 1: or you could do half the amount of sets and 274 00:11:51,040 --> 00:11:54,320 Speaker 1: go sub one forty on the bike ERG. And so 275 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: I did the sub I did one thirty five pace, 276 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: which is about four hundred and thirty watts average, and 277 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 1: so my legs, dude, my heart rate and my legs 278 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 1: were pumped. And then to try to settle to shoot 279 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: at twenty five yards was a way different stimulus. And 280 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: I it was pretty cool something to add more of 281 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:15,920 Speaker 1: a sprint and then a two minute recovery, but uh, 282 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 1: it was just it's different. It's just changed that stimulus up, 283 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: change up. 284 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 2: You know. He was, ah, we're shooting. 285 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: He's like tapping us in the freaking head with an 286 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:27,800 Speaker 1: arrow and like just slowing down, concentrating on the things 287 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: in front of you. And it was kind of crazy. 288 00:12:29,160 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: You know what he had us do with the bow 289 00:12:32,160 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: without drawing or anything. He's like, all right, cover up 290 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: the eyeball of the wa had an elk out there, 291 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 1: and you know, you think, oh, I can't get there, 292 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 1: but you're you naturally just always come back to it 293 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: as long as you pick out, you know, a small spot, 294 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 1: and so it was it was. 295 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 2: Pretty eye opening and uh, just really cool. 296 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: You know you almost that what I kind of took 297 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: away from it is once you're set up here, your 298 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,280 Speaker 1: brain will naturally keep coming back to that center spot. 299 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 2: And you've just got to execute. 300 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 5: It's just like any other sport, like for really for anybody, uh, 301 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 5: like you grow up playing sports, like when you're three, 302 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,640 Speaker 5: four or five, so like for you for baseball, let's 303 00:13:09,679 --> 00:13:12,679 Speaker 5: just say like three, four, five, six, maybe even seven, like. 304 00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:16,319 Speaker 4: For the first year olds ball or something. I don't 305 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 4: know how we kids are playing. 306 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 5: People start playing early, Okay, anyways, four or five year olds. 307 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:23,760 Speaker 4: I guess four or five year olds. It's been a 308 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 4: while since I don't have one. I don't have kids. 309 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,200 Speaker 4: It's been a while to play d ball. I don't 310 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 4: really remember how. 311 00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: Old I was playing. 312 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,439 Speaker 3: Three year olds to play. 313 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 5: But yeah, yeah, but like even then when I mean, obviously, 314 00:13:35,720 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 5: I guess it does now that i'm think about it 315 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:37,959 Speaker 5: is a little ridiculous. 316 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 4: Like three year olds kind of have no idea what's 317 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 4: going on when they're playing T ball. 318 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 5: But those are like you're starting to learn the fundamentals then, 319 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 5: and then when you're five and six and seven, like 320 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 5: you're going through and like it's all just the fundamentals. 321 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: That's all it is. 322 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 2: Fundamentals and fun. That's what we try to teach with 323 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: the kids at this age. 324 00:13:53,640 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so it took years of practice for you 325 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 5: to like and then and then going when you start 326 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 5: to play college baseball, like then you don't even think 327 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 5: about the stuff. You step up there and it's like 328 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 5: you just you have to think about turning everything off 329 00:14:07,840 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 5: so you can just do what you need to do 330 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 5: the same thing like you're saying about us with like 331 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 5: a snatch when you start, when you first first start 332 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 5: learning it, you have to think about everything at the 333 00:14:16,520 --> 00:14:18,880 Speaker 5: same time. And then all of a sudden, a few 334 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,680 Speaker 5: years later, you have to think about nothing to be 335 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 5: able to think about all those things. And then it's 336 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 5: just like the saying it's the same with shooting your bow. 337 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 5: Like if you're it's your first season shooting your bow, 338 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 5: you get a lot going on your head, like you're 339 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 5: thinking about, okay, draw back, I gotta put it on 340 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 5: the p you know what am I doing back here? 341 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:34,720 Speaker 4: All that different stuff you gotta think about. 342 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:36,760 Speaker 1: And not to mention an animal that walks out exactly 343 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 1: and you don't know the range. You don't know exact range, 344 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: you don't know unless you have a scot that can 345 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:43,280 Speaker 1: range it for you. 346 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 5: So like there, I mean, there's levels to it. You know, 347 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 5: there's levels to it. That's why I mean we talk 348 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 5: about it. Anyone who sees us just do the zone 349 00:14:50,080 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 5: two and shooting or like lifting and shooting, they're like, oh, 350 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 5: those guys are idiots, right, But but we talk about 351 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:59,040 Speaker 5: there's you have to basically do this. I mean, even 352 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 5: if it's not for years, like, spend a lot of 353 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,360 Speaker 5: time doing this and then you can graduate to that. 354 00:15:03,440 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not the first thing you did. You don't 355 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 3: want to pick up your bow and then like, hey, 356 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go run a mile, quake and then. 357 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:10,520 Speaker 2: Shoot for your first time. 358 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 1: I usually shoot multiple times a day, Like in the morning, 359 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: I might pick up a couple of arrows, Like now 360 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:17,320 Speaker 1: I have a target right off my back porch, I 361 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: might shoot two or three arrows. Complete calm first thing 362 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: in the morning out of the cold plunch. That's another 363 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 1: thing that kind of will mess with you because hey, 364 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 1: how many times you're sitting in a stand or doing 365 00:15:26,240 --> 00:15:30,440 Speaker 1: something like that and you're shivering cold and or an 366 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 1: animal walks out and you start those shakes the shakes, 367 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: So man, anytime you can change that up and I 368 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,960 Speaker 1: try to do some controlled shooting, but then I also 369 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: try to add a little chaos. 370 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: Or anarchy in there. 371 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 4: Yep. 372 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 5: Yeah, being able to shoot like a single arrow at 373 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 5: a time. A guy who would do that in the 374 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:52,880 Speaker 5: morning high pressure you get up, like if it's after 375 00:15:52,920 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 5: the plunge or whatever, just you know, right when you 376 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 5: get up. 377 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 2: Uh. 378 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 4: This is also another way, you know. 379 00:15:57,920 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 5: I we wrote a wrote an article on meat Eater 380 00:16:00,400 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 5: about this about there's a time to like we talked 381 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,080 Speaker 5: about doing like a pre shooting warm up and then 382 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 5: cooling down afterwards. But there is a time when you 383 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 5: have done you put the miles in on that kind 384 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 5: of stuff, where like you have bullet proof your shoulders 385 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 5: to a certain degree, and you should be able to 386 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 5: draw your bow back ice cold, because you're gonna do 387 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 5: it in the woods. Like if you're hiking, Yes, you're out, 388 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 5: your body temp is elevated, but your shoulders aren't warmed 389 00:16:24,200 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 5: up really. Uh so you're pulling it back with pretty much. 390 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: You know. 391 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 5: The only thing that your shoulders are warmed to do 392 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 5: is carry a pack for the last couple hours when 393 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 5: you're in a tree standing absolutely stationary climb. Yeah, you 394 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 5: climb to a ladder four hours ago, and now you 395 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 5: have a buck in front of you so you're warm 396 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 5: and you're plentning warm, but so there is a time 397 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:43,920 Speaker 5: where you should be able to do that and not 398 00:16:43,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 5: get hurt. Like you shouldn't always have to do a 399 00:16:46,440 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 5: warm up. You should do those warm ups consistently throughout 400 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 5: the weeks leading up to where you can take that 401 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:54,320 Speaker 5: one ice cold shot and same thing in the morning, 402 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 5: Like if you want to do it in the morning 403 00:16:55,440 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 5: or right you get home from work, you say, I'm 404 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,880 Speaker 5: gonna go out there and shoot one arrow at like 405 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 5: think about the tree stand that you're usually sitting in, 406 00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 5: or think about the opportunities usually have. If it's like 407 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 5: that thirty two yard, I'm gonna go right to thirty 408 00:17:06,640 --> 00:17:08,400 Speaker 5: two yards, I'm gonna take one shot and just see 409 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:11,639 Speaker 5: how I am. And that's like those are some of 410 00:17:11,640 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 5: the most important ones. And then also from like seated 411 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 5: where like I do I think we've programmed it to 412 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 5: where you're sitting on a bucket or sitting in a 413 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:20,000 Speaker 5: chair like whatever, if you're gonna take before that guy, 414 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 5: actually yeah, yeah, you're gonna go out to a blind 415 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 5: or you're gonna be sitting in a tree stand, like 416 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 5: let's say the window that you have to shoot out 417 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 5: of your tree stand is best when you're seated, not 418 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 5: when you're standing, So you need to practice that. 419 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 3: Or even seated, but not always like perfectly. Yeah, like 420 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:38,920 Speaker 3: because you do torque a lot yeap oh where the 421 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 3: animal comes out and all that stuff, like your legs 422 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 3: could be one way and you're having to torque this way. 423 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 4: And I missed. I missed a shot doing that same pace. 424 00:17:48,359 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 3: Hey, same man. 425 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: Well, about to tell you another one last year when 426 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: we're in Oklahoma, that buck came out behind us, horrible wind, 427 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,720 Speaker 1: and uh, as I would turn, I had to crank 428 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: so hard in the sad that it would like shut 429 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,240 Speaker 1: off my karate artery that I'd start to like black out. 430 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: So I had to sit there like this. And then 431 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,919 Speaker 1: he went to leave and I shot if if he 432 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: was at forty yards, which where I estimated he was, 433 00:18:11,400 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: he was at thirty six. We got some got some 434 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: arrow on him, but not enough. 435 00:18:17,840 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 436 00:18:18,400 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 5: The first buck I was shot with a bow, and 437 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,440 Speaker 5: I this is this just goes to show like how 438 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 5: knew I was at it for sure, that I hadn't 439 00:18:27,760 --> 00:18:28,400 Speaker 5: really shot. 440 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 4: From steeded much. And I drew the bowl back and 441 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 4: it was fine. 442 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 5: Everything looked good and right before I let it go, 443 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 5: that cam hit my knee and just the arrow popped 444 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 5: up and I missed him, and luckily I got a 445 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 5: second shot on him, which usually doesn't happen, but I 446 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:42,600 Speaker 5: got a second shot at it. 447 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:44,679 Speaker 4: No, this is the one in Georgia. 448 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that cam just hit my knee and the 449 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 5: freaking arrow flew up and and the next shot was better. 450 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 5: So I was just not used to shooting from sitting down. 451 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,679 Speaker 5: Since then, I've done that. 452 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,919 Speaker 6: If you were to give people like you talk about 453 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 6: zone two into a shot or nervous system tax into 454 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:07,679 Speaker 6: a shot, some exact examples of what those workouts could be. 455 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean go to myham hunt. No, I think 456 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,119 Speaker 2: a light jog four hundred you know, so a quarter 457 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 2: of a mile four hundred meters. 458 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 4: You could even start with just you could even. 459 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 5: Start with walking walking rocking walking rock or and then 460 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: go to a jaw a jog because. 461 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 3: For western rock with the pack still on. 462 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:29,119 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, shoot shoot. 463 00:19:29,160 --> 00:19:31,160 Speaker 1: That's another thing is putting a pack on and shooting, 464 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 1: because that is going to happen realistic has happened. 465 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 5: And working up to that. Working up to the jog, though, 466 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 5: is a good idea because we don't have all day. 467 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 5: You're not going to go and hike for eight hours 468 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:43,399 Speaker 5: and then take one shot, right, you need to you 469 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 5: need to simulate that with intensity. So by doing that 470 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 5: with intensity is like, you know, five minutes of a 471 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 5: rock or maybe a half mile rock and it doesn't 472 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:52,679 Speaker 5: have to be a run. It could be just more 473 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 5: of a jog or a walk if you need it 474 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 5: to be, and then and then take that shot. 475 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, so you could substitute walk run rock if you 476 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: have a machine, you know that type of distance, minute 477 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: or two of an interval and then hop off shoot 478 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: while the heart rates kind of elevated, Go get your arrow, 479 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: come back, hop. 480 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 2: On the machine. It could be a conversational pace. You 481 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 2: could push like. 482 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: That's what I like is there's so many different ways 483 00:20:15,160 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: to do this. It doesn't have to just be this 484 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: one way. 485 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: You know. 486 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: If it's more intense, I would say less sets or rounds. 487 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: If it's less intense and more kind of sustained cardio, 488 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 1: I would say more sets, yeah, less rest. 489 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:31,360 Speaker 2: I mean really, you could do a step up. 490 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: Step up, so you can do a forty yard shot, 491 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: run and get run and get your arrow, comeback, take 492 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: a forty yard shot just ten rounds of that. 493 00:20:38,160 --> 00:20:40,080 Speaker 5: You know I've done I've actually done that, not with 494 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:43,040 Speaker 5: shooting my bow, I've actually done that with a rifle too, 495 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 5: where you can, as I got on in check shooting 496 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 5: from one hundred yards. Shoot yeah, shoot from hundred yards, Caul, 497 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 5: run in check, run back, shoot from a hundred yards. 498 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 4: Pretty good, I mean. 499 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 2: That's pretty good. 500 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 4: That's yeah. 501 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 2: You don't have to do this with a bow. You 502 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 2: can do the same thing with a rifle. 503 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 1: When we were talking to Joel a lot about like 504 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,120 Speaker 1: how it carries over, he says, the exact same thing. 505 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:03,080 Speaker 1: You just want to feel that trigger and then slow, slow, 506 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,680 Speaker 1: slow and pull. 507 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: Then. 508 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, then I would say another way to do 509 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: the kind of nervous system thing is find either a 510 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 1: squat uh. You could do a step back lunch, you 511 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 1: could do a clean, you could do a deadlift. 512 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 2: For me. 513 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,359 Speaker 1: Hard part with the clean would be the thumb tape 514 00:21:21,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: or whatever. But you could do a sandbag over a box, uh, 515 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: and then do some shooting. But something that is is 516 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: going to cost you a little bit of like muscle 517 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: and nervous system kind of stimulus. You know, something that 518 00:21:35,680 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: you have to think about, something that you can't just like, 519 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,919 Speaker 1: you know, not a lightweight dumbbell something something. 520 00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 2: It's gonna cost you a little bit. 521 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 3: To somebody, they don't have anything. You think you can 522 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 3: just do like a hold a wall squat, it's not. 523 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 2: It's not gonna be a nervous system stimulus. 524 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,760 Speaker 4: It's more of like a you could do like a 525 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 4: jumping yes. 526 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: Yes, but it's not gonna be the same. But yeah, 527 00:21:58,400 --> 00:21:59,680 Speaker 2: jumping squats. 528 00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: Or box yeah bo a high box shump a couple 529 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: high box jumps. Uh, just something to like tax the 530 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: explosiveness and then try to shoot, you. 531 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: Know, yeah. 532 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:13,359 Speaker 5: Like for so we I have programmed, like I was 533 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 5: just keeping on a three week cycle. It would be 534 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,440 Speaker 5: eight sets of a four hundred ruck and then one 535 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 5: or two arrowshot shot. So it'd be eight rounds of 536 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 5: that basically at whatever pace you want to choose. You 537 00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 5: can run, you can walk, and then the next week 538 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 5: would be four sets of eight hundred with one or 539 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 5: two arrows, and then two sets of a mile and 540 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 5: I think the last one is gonna be the test 541 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 5: if you will, will be literally two mile rock walk, jog, whatever, 542 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 5: and then you have one shot from fifty yards and 543 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 5: that's like the whole thing just kind of as a 544 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 5: test to see like did you did you get better 545 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 5: doing that? And because it's getting closer to the season, 546 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 5: like that's gonna be I think the last week of August. 547 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken or we're in the last week, 548 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 5: maybe next week it's gonna be just like a two 549 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 5: mile rock and then you have one arrow shot and 550 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,680 Speaker 5: then I always say, I try to put this after 551 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 5: the after that is like, obviously that's. 552 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,280 Speaker 4: Not enough shooting practice. So if you want. 553 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 5: To shoot afterwards, treat that as the as the one 554 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:09,160 Speaker 5: opportunity and you're gonna shoot. 555 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:10,919 Speaker 2: You use everything you ever wanted, You're. 556 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,639 Speaker 4: Gonna take that one shot at one moment, capture it. 557 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 4: I knew that I was coming. 558 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,800 Speaker 5: I knew it's coming if we just said it the 559 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 5: other day the same thing the last podcast. You're gonna 560 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 5: you're gonna take that one shot and then and then 561 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 5: you can go and shoot and practice however much you 562 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,199 Speaker 5: want afterwards. So we've been doing that and then Scott 563 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 5: for specific examples, like I programmed that workout that we did. 564 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 5: I didn't put a pace without using for a Thursday 565 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 5: workout where you do five sets of either if you 566 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 5: have a biker, you do a thousand meters in the 567 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,680 Speaker 5: biker a five hundred meters row or a four hundred 568 00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 5: meter run, and you shoot one arrow from twenty five yards, 569 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 5: rest a minute, and then grab your arrow during the rest. 570 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 5: If you only have one one aer like we were 571 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:52,840 Speaker 5: shooting with just one or two hours, blast our arrows, yeah, 572 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,719 Speaker 5: which I did. And then so five sets that then 573 00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 5: we kind of the way I'm gonna progress. 574 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 4: It is each week go back five yard, so you 575 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 4: can hold the same pace. 576 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 3: You can go slower if. 577 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 5: You want to go back five yards, and I think 578 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 5: like the last week is a little less sets or something, 579 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 5: but it's very similar. And then for the squat, you 580 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:12,719 Speaker 5: could do like five sets maybe three squats. 581 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:16,199 Speaker 4: Yeah around like seventy eight and then do one arrow 582 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 4: shot you. 583 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: Really just wanted to do one, like yeah, like eighty 584 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: five plus Yeah that would be even. 585 00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 5: Good too, Yeah, just to really tax the nervous system. 586 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:25,880 Speaker 5: But for like you're saying, like a jumping squat would work, 587 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 5: or even just a box jump or a vertical jump. 588 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 3: So if you do like. 589 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 5: Five sets of three max effort broad jumps or max 590 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 5: effort vertical jumps, and then you do that you have 591 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,119 Speaker 5: a sixty second window to take a. 592 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:38,919 Speaker 1: Shot, so that as much as you could change that 593 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,919 Speaker 1: stimulus up, yeah, I would go for it without too 594 00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: much upper body. I mean, but every once in a 595 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: while throw in some upper body and try to do it, 596 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:46,359 Speaker 1: you know, like I do. 597 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 5: It'll be a little fatigue, a little fatigue. And I'm 598 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,920 Speaker 5: glad you said that because I use some like farmers 599 00:24:53,000 --> 00:24:55,000 Speaker 5: carries or something because you're going to carry the boat 600 00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 5: for a while, like a single arm farmers carry, or 601 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 5: I use those over unders because you be getting up 602 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 5: and over stuff and then box step ups or like 603 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 5: a bar hang. 604 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 4: I've done some bar hanger, maybe a plank hold where 605 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 4: you're getting more. 606 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 5: Of that like static shoulder fatigue, like you would feel 607 00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 5: if you had the pack on all day, or if 608 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,920 Speaker 5: I was using like if I don't know, like if 609 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 5: you were having to move stuff around, like I think 610 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,400 Speaker 5: you guys had that little shelter you made one year, 611 00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 5: if you were going to try to like make a 612 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 5: little blind, like you're gonna be moving logs and you're 613 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 5: gonna be moving stuff for Millia. 614 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, for Mallia. So like I mean, people do that. 615 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 4: People literally put brush themselves in and then. 616 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:35,199 Speaker 1: Honestly too, Like thinking about what Joel was saying, you 617 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: could do some like true shoulder fatigue push ups into it. 618 00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: I would just keep the distance relatively close so you're 619 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,879 Speaker 1: not losing a ton of arrows because you start getting 620 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 1: out You're I mean you are moving around a lot. 621 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,119 Speaker 3: Depending on your fitness level, yeah, depending on h start small, 622 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: start with tracking. 623 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,880 Speaker 2: That's the beauty of what we do is you can track. 624 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 1: It's infinitely scalable, it's you know, repeatable, It's you can 625 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: come back to it and be like, how did I 626 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: do last time? Oh I did better this time? Oh 627 00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: I did worse this times, not working whatever, and change 628 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: it up. So that's that's why we like to do 629 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 1: what we do. 630 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 6: What was each of your guy's biggest takeaways from Joel? 631 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 6: Like what you learned from him shooting wise, I. 632 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,600 Speaker 1: Don't want to it's gonna sound bad thinking about it 633 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 1: this way, but like, forget the front, you know, like 634 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,720 Speaker 1: once you're set, once you get everything set, forget about 635 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 1: it and concentrate on, you know, just being smooth and 636 00:26:25,080 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 1: efficient with that pull on the back side, you know, 637 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: like you kind of for me before that, I would 638 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 1: like pingpong I'd be like, all right, I'm gonna start pulling. 639 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,199 Speaker 1: Oh wait, I'm looking at the front, you know, like 640 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 1: this is kind of like this game here he once 641 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: you're set and you know, it's good concentrate back here. 642 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:46,920 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was my big takeaway on it. Yeah, i 643 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 3: would say just kind of what we're talking about, just 644 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 3: natural tendency is you go out in your yard and 645 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,240 Speaker 3: you just shoot. But the more you can, the more 646 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:01,440 Speaker 3: variations you can have in that, the better off you are. 647 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:02,320 Speaker 2: I'll say too. 648 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:06,040 Speaker 1: He encourages it having words, putting words to it, Like 649 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,239 Speaker 1: it's really weird to do it with other people, but 650 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:12,359 Speaker 1: think about it, like, all right, hankers level, if you're 651 00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:18,040 Speaker 1: shooting with a friend, your target on the target, it's. 652 00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 4: Just another way to remember stuff. 653 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, like yep, doing it and hearing it, because like 654 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 5: you know, like you learn in school, everyone learns a 655 00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 5: little bit different. And I've always thought that if you 656 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 5: can stack all of them together, as many of them 657 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 5: together as you can, like was it like verbal and 658 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 5: then visual and physical, the more you can stack together, 659 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 5: the better off you're going to be. Like so yeah, 660 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 5: I mean I've always been a lot better at visually learning, 661 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,280 Speaker 5: Like if I see you do something, I can I 662 00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:49,719 Speaker 5: can usually get pretty close to it, and then some 663 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 5: people like need to feel it or some people just 664 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,439 Speaker 5: need to hear it. 665 00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 4: So like doing all of those things or whatever. 666 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 5: The other options are doing as many of them as possible, 667 00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 5: like saying it out loud and actually maybe helping even 668 00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 5: though it's we, you may be helping the other person 669 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,119 Speaker 5: shooting with you because he's like, oh okay, I need 670 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 5: to think by that stuff too. 671 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: I would say, go to one of his clinics seminars. 672 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,439 Speaker 1: We can't talk about the one thing in there that 673 00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:11,919 Speaker 1: he was like, hey, don't film this part. 674 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:17,199 Speaker 2: But Watkins is a moron. 675 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:16,640 Speaker 4: And I don't even know what you're talking about. 676 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 2: We have. Yeah, it was kind of crazy. 677 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 1: Delaying is so like cerebral and such a nerd that 678 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: it took him too many times to do what we 679 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 1: were trying to do. 680 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,679 Speaker 2: I'll tell you about it after him. 681 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 6: Has your shooting improved? 682 00:28:30,800 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 2: Do you think? I would say so? Yeah? Yeah, I 683 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,280 Speaker 2: think so. Man. 684 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: There's still some days I'll shoot lights out like arrows touching, 685 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,120 Speaker 1: and then the next day probably has to do with 686 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: a lot with what we do previous. But I have 687 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: more good days than bad. Where it used to be 688 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 1: like fifty to fifty, I'd say it's more like seventy 689 00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 1: thirty or eighty twenty. I think trying like being more 690 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: consistent with those cues and not just being like, oh, 691 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: I'm on it, take a shot, you know, like having 692 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: some actionable things to think about has helped a ton. 693 00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:07,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I said. 694 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 5: I was, like I started to set some standards for 695 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,560 Speaker 5: myself with like all right, if I'm having a bad day, 696 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 5: I have to go, I'll just go to twenty yards 697 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 5: and I'll shoot a grouping in the insert in my. 698 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 3: Having a bad shooting day or just a bad day, 699 00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: I think both both. 700 00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 4: We're having a bad emotional he we're all about. 701 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:29,720 Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know, positive mental health, mental health. 702 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's mental health. We're big mental health here. 703 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 5: That insert of my deer is usually pretty easy to 704 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:37,479 Speaker 5: hit from twenty yards now for me, So if I can, 705 00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 5: I'll just go to twenty yards and I'll hit that. 706 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 5: And like it builds a little bit of confidence. You're like, Okay, 707 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 5: even though I have a big shots, Yeah, even though 708 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 5: I even though I want to do beat yourself, even 709 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 5: though I want to go stick my head in front 710 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 5: of my bow just gonna I'm gonna, I'm gonna make 711 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 5: a good, good group of three arrows, and I'm gonna 712 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 5: stop because now I'm like, now I got I got 713 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 5: something to end on. Because if I go back to 714 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 5: like thirty or forty fifty yards and I started shooting 715 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 5: my crap, and it's just I'm just almost wasting my 716 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 5: time because I better. I should just come back tomorrow 717 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 5: and not break my bow in half. Come back tomorrow 718 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 5: and try. 719 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 1: To If anybody's never seen an Angelo to Chico meant 720 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: melt down your Do we have any on? 721 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:18,320 Speaker 2: Oh? 722 00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 4: Yeah, on film? 723 00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: Can we like, well, we can't insert that I had 724 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 2: had one yesterday on shooting. 725 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,959 Speaker 5: No, we were Madison and I were building a frame 726 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:30,000 Speaker 5: to put a to put a. 727 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 4: Swing on, and I like a bench swing. 728 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 5: And I stripped one of the heads of the bolts 729 00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 5: because I tried to I tried to tighten it too 730 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 5: many times and. 731 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 3: It was strong. 732 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 2: No, you had it cross threaded. 733 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 5: No, it's really it's really hard to explain if unless 734 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:49,960 Speaker 5: you see it. But the way it worked, I stripped it, 735 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 5: and uh, she like starts talking to me, and I. 736 00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 4: Chucked the wrench into the woods. 737 00:30:58,280 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: I was putting the rake back in its whole. 738 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,160 Speaker 4: She she's fear. 739 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 5: She was furious at me, of course, and I come 740 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 5: back out with another ranch and what I and because 741 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 5: it wasn't working, it. 742 00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: Was she to walk away Hillary when she said something, 743 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 1: She's like shume out. 744 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 7: She went inside so good, so annoying, and I went 745 00:31:21,920 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 7: out to the I went out to the yard to 746 00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 7: go look for the She said, can't find it, can you? 747 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 4: I couldn't, said, she said, well, I hope you find 748 00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:30,640 Speaker 4: it with the moll or later. 749 00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 5: And yeah, I deserve that I couldn't find I still 750 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:34,440 Speaker 5: haven't found it. 751 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 2: You'll find it missing. 752 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, So that had one yesterday, and I'm melt done. 753 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 4: And I know why. I know exactly why I told 754 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 4: bird this because I'm so sore. I was so mad 755 00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:47,959 Speaker 4: all day, Yesterdear. 756 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,239 Speaker 2: I couldn't. 757 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,080 Speaker 4: I was just my hamstrings because they cramped. I was. 758 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,720 Speaker 4: I couldn't really, I couldn't pinpoint why I was so mad. 759 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 4: It was just because I was uncomfortable and like we 760 00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 4: were not that she made me like, you're doing stuff 761 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,760 Speaker 4: in the yard and I wanted to, but I just 762 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 4: couldn't move the way I wanted to move because I hurt. 763 00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 4: That was it. That's it. 764 00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 2: It should have been like me and get up and 765 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 2: StairMaster first thing in the morning. 766 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 3: Definitely a good reason to throw the wrench. 767 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,520 Speaker 5: I should have done something. I should have gone for 768 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 5: a walk or something to at least get my shot 769 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 5: your boat, Yeah, you shoot it. No, I started to 770 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:23,800 Speaker 5: get too angry, so my coyote a couple of times. 771 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 5: Every like you know when some of those days when 772 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:26,840 Speaker 5: like stuff just. 773 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:28,760 Speaker 3: Goes wrong, goes wrong, goes wrong, like. 774 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:31,360 Speaker 2: Never have those so I did. 775 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 5: I was like, man, I'm gonna shoot my bow and 776 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 5: I said, probably not today. 777 00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:36,240 Speaker 3: Today is not the day. 778 00:32:37,520 --> 00:32:39,200 Speaker 4: I'm just not gonna go do it. 779 00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 3: What'd you take away or just like the different aspects 780 00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 3: of everything I said it? 781 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,280 Speaker 5: Oh, mine was that he I like that he agreed 782 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 5: with us about the working out and shooting thing, mostly 783 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 5: because they're the thing that he does and the things 784 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 5: that we do are so closely related. 785 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:03,240 Speaker 4: But people wouldn't really know that if they just watch our. 786 00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 5: Videos where they think we're just a bunch of meath 787 00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 5: head who want to work out and shoot, and he 788 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:09,480 Speaker 5: they're like, oh, he's really cerebral, Like he has ideas. 789 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 4: Am I meathead. Look at me, pretty, look like a meathead. 790 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 3: Pretty. 791 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 5: So it's it's very similar to the ways that we 792 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 5: think about shooting under fatigued, the way he thinks about 793 00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 5: shooting with all the chaos going around in your head 794 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 5: and trying to shut that all or not really shut 795 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 5: it off but almost lean into it a little bit. 796 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 5: We are thinking the same way, but it looks different. 797 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,240 Speaker 5: And when you hear them like, they go together a 798 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,240 Speaker 5: lot more than people think. 799 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 3: After your lunch today, you're not a meathead. 800 00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: He doesn't know what I had for a lot of. 801 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 3: Two hot dogs, like just straight up. 802 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:52,880 Speaker 2: Ziplin, no bun. 803 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 4: Buds, all right, buns and mustard I had. 804 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:58,480 Speaker 2: I didn't. That's like a dinner, that's not a lunch. 805 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 4: I had it for lunch yesterday. And like, I just 806 00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 4: like those hot dogs, the cheddar bro. 807 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,360 Speaker 2: And we've got some elk brots that are pretty enourage. 808 00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:09,320 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Brian and I got some deer cheddar brots. 809 00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 5: That's what got me turned back onto them, because my 810 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:12,600 Speaker 5: dad and I would get them a lot when I 811 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:14,680 Speaker 5: was younger. And then we got some deer ones made 812 00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:18,239 Speaker 5: from our first trip in Georgia a couple of years ago, 813 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 5: and I'm like, man, I need some broths. I love 814 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 5: those cheese brots, except when the cheese becomes molten lava 815 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,080 Speaker 5: on the inside and it explodes in your mouth or 816 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:30,040 Speaker 5: on your face and it burns. 817 00:34:30,600 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 2: What's your next hunt? 818 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 4: My next hunt is I was gonna go Velvet yesterday? 819 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:38,319 Speaker 4: Did you go? 820 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 3: I was? 821 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: I wanted to, but my kids, I hadn't seen him 822 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: a couple days. Nobody was really wanting to go sit 823 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,840 Speaker 1: in a tree and we don't have anything on camera. 824 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, we've really been lacking around here. 825 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, same here. 826 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 5: I mean, just like I don't know start to start here, 827 00:34:56,920 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 5: just some go to classic Tennessee tree stand hunting and 828 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 5: then September that's your Yeah, probably, Uh when are you 829 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:04,720 Speaker 5: going to Georgia? 830 00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 4: I think we're looking at November right now. A week 831 00:35:08,960 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 4: in November possibly a. 832 00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 5: Week No, sorry, we're looking at this week and we're 833 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:14,520 Speaker 5: gonna use some of those days and we do not 834 00:35:14,600 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 5: need a week there, right, Scott, He's. 835 00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 3: Gonna go on that Illinois hunt November with Nate. Yeah. 836 00:35:21,600 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, Okay, So I don't know what's next, but 837 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 5: I know that I know things coming up. 838 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 4: You're going to myself Bird and Scott are all in 839 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:28,959 Speaker 4: like we got. 840 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: What minus sixth t minus thirteen days something like that. 841 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:38,560 Speaker 1: Birds trying to cram into his hunt prep. Scott's got 842 00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:42,600 Speaker 1: a little head on us because he's been like pure hunting. 843 00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,920 Speaker 1: I've been CrossFit training, so yesterday I flipped that switch. 844 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 3: More last StairMaster last week. 845 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 2: I'm in way more CrossFit shape than I've been in 846 00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 2: the last couple of years. 847 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I could tell suck. I told him that. 848 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 5: I said, dude, you're not fitter, but your your gymnastic 849 00:36:03,239 --> 00:36:04,360 Speaker 5: moves were better this weekend. 850 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,680 Speaker 3: It sucked. It was a lot worse for me. 851 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: All right, Idaho countdown to Idaho. 852 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, leave us some comments. Let's know what you guys 853 00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,400 Speaker 1: want us to on these Spike camps. What kind of 854 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: things you want us to talk about, anything that I've 855 00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:21,720 Speaker 1: been thinking about, burning questions. 856 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 2: Let us know.