1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Hi, everyone. I'm Katie Couric and this is next question. 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: You know, when I was getting ready to interview the 3 00:00:07,280 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: actor Adam Scott, I wasn't sure what I was in for. 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,560 Speaker 1: I didn't know that much about him. Of course I 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: recognized him from a lot of different roles, but I 6 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: really didn't know what to expect, and I have to 7 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: admit I ended up really really liking Adam Scott. Hello, Adam, Hi. Hi, 8 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: it's Katie. Hi. I learned a lot about him during 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: the course of our conversation. That I would have loved 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: his mom, That he lives close to the house we've 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: been riding in l A for the past couple of months. 12 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: That he loves building forts. You're going to think it's 13 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: really weird, but I'm doing this under a blanket because 14 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 1: this room is super echoy. I don't mind. Let's just 15 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: pretend like we're in a fort that we made as kids. 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: I love it. I love forts, and I love coziness, 17 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:00,040 Speaker 1: and it's cozy, And and that nothing was going to 18 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: stop him from becoming an actor, even though he may 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: do with bit parts scraping a living together for fifteen years. Nevertheless, 20 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: he persisted, you look back and you're like, oh, oh 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 1: my god, I was nowhere. Ironically, after wanting to break 22 00:01:18,080 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: into Hollywood for so long, the first big acting gig 23 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: he got was playing a hollywould want to be stuck 24 00:01:25,720 --> 00:01:28,639 Speaker 1: in a dead end catering job and the now cult 25 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: favorite show Party Down. Were you were? You that guy? 26 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: You were? You were totally that guy that is bananas? 27 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: I remember that. I remember you? What are you doing 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: working here? Will you remember me from anything else? Spoiler alert? 29 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: It works out for our dear Adam. He has start 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: in some truly vengebile TV, from Parks and Wreck to 31 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: Big Little Lies to now front and center in a 32 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: new series called Severance. Hello, my name is Mark S 33 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: and I have of my own free accord, elected to 34 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:17,240 Speaker 1: undergo the procedure known as Severance. We get into the 35 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: show Adams scrappy beginnings, that magnificent quoth, and much more. 36 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,679 Speaker 1: I hope you enjoy our chat as much as I did. 37 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited to talk about Severance because when I first 38 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 1: saw billboards advertising your new show on Apple TV, I thought, Wow, 39 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: that is really extraordinary timing. Here we are on the 40 00:02:41,200 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: heels of the pandemic that has left so many people 41 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: of all ages, rethinking the workplace, rethinking you know, what 42 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: we want to do with our lives. There's the Great Resignation, 43 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: which other people have called the Great Reset. But it 44 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: seems almost uncanny that this show is coming out at 45 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: this moment. Was it complete serendipity or was it Um 46 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: did you foresee something happening in the culture. It was 47 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: complete serendipity. I mean the show was written pre pandemic, 48 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: and we were going to start shooting April of and 49 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: had to delay, you know, obviously for seven months and 50 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 1: started that. We started shooting the day after the election 51 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: in November. Um, so we were shooting right in the 52 00:03:37,960 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: heart of pre vaccine New York pandemic. It was, uh, 53 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: as everyone knows, it was a crazy time. And so no, 54 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: I think it was complete serendipity. But um, you know 55 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 1: Dan Ericson the creator and writer, and Ben Stiller the 56 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: director and executive producer, you know, kind of the creative 57 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: forces really behind the show. Um, you know, serendipitous, But 58 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:12,840 Speaker 1: I think also the the kind of everything we're feeling 59 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: right now and kind of the result of of everything 60 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: that's happened the past couple of years. You know, you 61 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,720 Speaker 1: have to think that the seeds of this have been 62 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: planted for some time. It's just we were accelerating for 63 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: the past couple of years. That's so interesting. I think 64 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 1: you're so right. I think millennials and now Gen Z 65 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 1: of people I don't know, gen z ears Um. I 66 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: think this sort of restlessness and this questioning of career 67 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: tracks and the idea. Remember giving a commencement address and 68 00:04:45,480 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: saying most millennials will change jobs and average of fourteen 69 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: times in their lifetime, you know. And I think we've 70 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: seen this slow shift from people who work for one 71 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:00,559 Speaker 1: company their entire lives, retire with the know of old 72 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 1: watch a lunch and a pension, and this this very 73 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:10,200 Speaker 1: different view of work and priorities. So I think you're right. 74 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: Everything accelerated. I think all these pre existing trends accelerated 75 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: during the pandemic. But while you were shooting it, did 76 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 1: you sort of feel like this feels very of the moment. 77 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: We've kind of captured lightning in a bottle in terms 78 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: of some of the themes that this show presents. You know, 79 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: it was tough to see the forest for the trees 80 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: while we were shooting, because, um, it was such a 81 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: gargantuan task in front of us, in front of you. 82 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: I remember Amy Poehler used to call it being at 83 00:05:44,520 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: the bottom of show mountain when you're just starting a 84 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: new show, that that that no one knows what it is, 85 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 1: so there's no definition to it, and you're at the 86 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: bottom of the mountain. H when you know, when you're 87 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: at episode one of hopefully as many as possible, but 88 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 1: you have to shoot the show, but you also have 89 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: to construct and define it, find the tone, all of 90 00:06:12,120 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: those things that make a show work. Um Uh, you 91 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: have to sort of figure it out as you're doing it, 92 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 1: because there's no really really knowing what it's going to be, 93 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: what it's going to feel like until those cameras are rolling, 94 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: when you have everyone in the room doing it, and 95 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: so it is like being at the bottom of a mountain. 96 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: And and that's that's how it felt. And um for me, 97 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: never having been at the center of something quite so 98 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: big and challenging, um, I just was you know, day too, 99 00:06:50,960 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 1: going trying to just jump from one lily pad to 100 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:59,160 Speaker 1: the next, keeping up with the work and and under 101 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: these extraordinary circumstances in the middle of COVID where you guys, 102 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 1: we're probably being tested on a regular basis and having 103 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: to keep your distance and we're masks when you're not, 104 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: you know, when they don't say action. I mean that 105 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 1: that must have been really tough. It was really interesting. 106 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: And the isolation of it what you just said, they 107 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, the moment they called cut, putting a mask 108 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: and a shield up in front of your face. We 109 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: never even saw the cruise faces for the ten months 110 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: we're working on the show. And then also you go 111 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: home and I was away from my family. I was 112 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: in New York, so I live in Los Angeles, so 113 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: I was by myself in an apartment in in New York. 114 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:50,800 Speaker 1: And pre vaccine, New York was, especially in the fall 115 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 1: of was pretty locked down. It was pretty and it 116 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: was pretty very As somebody who lives in the city too, 117 00:07:57,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: you know, you would walk out on Park Avenue and 118 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: in the middle of the day and there it was empty, 119 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:08,000 Speaker 1: no cars. I mean, honestly, it was like a movie. 120 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: I know, it was crazy. It was like a mid 121 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 1: nineties like Wolfgang Peterson movie or something. So um. So yeah, 122 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: I I would shoot the show for twelve hours or whatever, 123 00:08:22,320 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: get in a van, go back to the apartment, eat, sleep, 124 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,559 Speaker 1: wake up, get in a van go to the show, 125 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: and the show was this kind of stark uh isolated, um, 126 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 1: strange environment and so it was very severance, like my 127 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: kind of existence parallel to the show. It was. It 128 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,760 Speaker 1: was very uh, very strange, and I was, you know, 129 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: grappling with a loss in my life and alone for 130 00:08:54,760 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 1: the first time in six months after this intent time 131 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 1: with family. You know, we're like we all did we 132 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: really buckled down. I buckled down with my two kids 133 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: and my wife for six months and had this extraordinary 134 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: time together. Um and then to suddenly just be boom, 135 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:17,960 Speaker 1: You're by yourself uh in uh in a in a 136 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: in the city and and and working, and you know, 137 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,439 Speaker 1: it was a it was like slamming the brakes on 138 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: and then getting into a car you've never driven before 139 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: and trying to figure it out. That's a metaphor that 140 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going to keep following. I was so excited 141 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 1: to see your your mug on the billboard and that 142 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,840 Speaker 1: pretty serious head of hair of yours, although it was 143 00:09:41,880 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: kind of slicked down in the billboard. I'm not obsessed 144 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: with hair. Your hair just happens to look lovely today 145 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: and very much, very fresh and maybe just washed, but anyway, Um, 146 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: you know, tell me about the plot, a little bit 147 00:09:57,400 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: about your character m in the show and and how 148 00:10:03,640 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: this whole idea was turned into I guess what I 149 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: would describe as a psychological thriller of sorts. Yeah, I think, Um, 150 00:10:12,520 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 1: I think, I think that's right. I think it's a 151 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: bunch of different things kind of there's a few balls 152 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: that are in the air with with the show. And 153 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: I think that's what really kind of got Ben really 154 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: Ben still are really interested in and it is that 155 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: it has this sort of this the entry into the 156 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: story sort of feels uh workplace, like a fun workplace 157 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: comedy in a way like office space or or the 158 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:48,400 Speaker 1: Officer parks and wreck even this sort of light, fun 159 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: bantery um way in and then that you sort of 160 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:56,640 Speaker 1: sense that there's something a little more sinister maybe lurking underneath. 161 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,800 Speaker 1: And then you kind of realized that this is this 162 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: fun office vibe that involves people who have no idea 163 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 1: what they're doing there or who they are. Um. Yeah, 164 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: I mean the conceit of the show is that we 165 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 1: live in a time where there's this technology where you 166 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:21,319 Speaker 1: can get a chip inserted into your brain that bifurcates 167 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: your memories. So when you go to work, once you 168 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:29,240 Speaker 1: cross the threshold of your workplace, you lose all of 169 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 1: your memory of who you are in the outside world, 170 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: and your entire life and perspective on your life is 171 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: there at work, and so that is who you are. 172 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,599 Speaker 1: And then when you leave at the end of the 173 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: day and cross that threshold once again, something is triggered 174 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: in the chip in your brain and you have no 175 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: access to the memories of what just happened at work, 176 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: and you have no idea actually what your job even is. 177 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,640 Speaker 1: You just live in the outside world. So the the 178 00:11:56,760 --> 00:12:01,079 Speaker 1: idea is, um, you can completely focus on your personal 179 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 1: life and then you can completely focus on your job 180 00:12:04,160 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 1: and never the twain shall meet. And so the work 181 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 1: life balance is finally solved. Um. There there there is 182 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: a complete balance in in in the work life conundrum. 183 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,440 Speaker 1: So I'll never leave here, You'll leave it five well, 184 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: actually they stagger exit, so but it won't feel like 185 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 1: it not to this version of you anyway. Do you 186 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: have a family? You never know? I have no choice. Well, 187 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: every time you find yourself here, it's because you chose 188 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 1: to come back and tell us about the character you play. 189 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: By the way, it sounds like Office Space meets Black Mirror. Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, 190 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: I think Twilight Zone and Black Mirror are certainly touchstones. 191 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: Um uh, it's a certain as a fan. When I 192 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: first read the scripts, that's the stuff that I love 193 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: watching and have since. Twilight Zone was a huge thing 194 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 1: for me as a kid, and so reading it, I 195 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:13,240 Speaker 1: you know, it was something that that I would want 196 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 1: to watch as a as an audience member. Um yeah, 197 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,959 Speaker 1: my character Mark is in the outside world. A couple 198 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:26,199 Speaker 1: of years ago he lost his wife and you know too, 199 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: and it's been two and a half years and he 200 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:34,559 Speaker 1: is not doing well. He's not moving on UM and 201 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago decided to get severed because 202 00:13:39,320 --> 00:13:42,839 Speaker 1: he just didn't want to feel this Paine twenty four 203 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,560 Speaker 1: hours a day so he can wake up in the morning, 204 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 1: have breakfast, drive to work, and then boom, he's leaving 205 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 1: work and getting his car, driving home, eating and going 206 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,960 Speaker 1: to sleep. That's his life. He doesn't have to feel 207 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,720 Speaker 1: anything for eight to ten hours a day. And I 208 00:13:58,760 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: think also part of his reasoning for this UM is 209 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: that this grief and this pain is in a way 210 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: all he has left of his of his wife, and 211 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,600 Speaker 1: he's that's you know, whether consciously or not, why he's 212 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 1: grasping onto this and holding onto it, why he doesn't 213 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 1: want to move on, is because this is this is 214 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: what he has, and and being able to check out 215 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: for most of most of the day is a way 216 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: of holding onto it while not having to necessarily deal 217 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: with or feel it. Interesting and do you think it's 218 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:45,600 Speaker 1: a metaphor for how sort of unhealthily entwined our personal 219 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: lives have become with our work lives. In other words, 220 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: the constant connectivity thanks to technology has made it really 221 00:14:55,440 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 1: difficult for us to have what was for so long 222 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:05,880 Speaker 1: considered our two separate lives. You know, even for me, 223 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 1: when I started out in television news, I would go 224 00:15:08,440 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: to work, I would come home and that was time 225 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: with my family. Now I had to do homework, you know, 226 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 1: the night before, which was delivered. It sounds so quaint 227 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: in an envelope with with actual you know, uh, papers 228 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: and zeros and articles, yeah, and Manila folders and all 229 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: that jazz. But I still felt that when I was 230 00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 1: not physically at work, I wasn't thinking about work seven 231 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: and now the lines have been so blurred, So it 232 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: is sort of this part of the solution for that, 233 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:56,080 Speaker 1: um all encompassing professional side that we now have. Yeah, 234 00:15:56,440 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 1: I guess so, I guess that's the that's the idea. Yeah, 235 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: I mean I know that. It's it sounds great to 236 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: be able to sever the two things because I I 237 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: always pictured that as well. I always pictured once my 238 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: professional life, god anywhere, and I had any traction or 239 00:16:18,080 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: any stability it, especially once I started we started a 240 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:28,920 Speaker 1: family that I would work and then come home and honey, 241 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm home and the martini in your bedroom, slippers and 242 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,040 Speaker 1: exactly like Madman or something. You know, that's sort of 243 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 1: what you always picture. But by the time it happened 244 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:45,440 Speaker 1: for me, there was no you know, you walk through 245 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 1: the door and there's a buzzing in your pocket and 246 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:52,280 Speaker 1: you know it's seven. There really is no stopping no 247 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: matter what you're doing for a living. Um, you have 248 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,160 Speaker 1: to really draw the line for yourself and and if 249 00:17:00,200 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: you want that separation, you have to put it in 250 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: a drawer. But then, um, you know, if you're not 251 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 1: reachable for two hours, uh, you know, people think there's 252 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: something going on, there's something wrong, and um, it's it's 253 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: now unusual to just be unresponsive for a certain amount 254 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:27,200 Speaker 1: of time. It is a strange a strange uh strange time. 255 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,360 Speaker 1: And certainly, um, you know, like you were saying earlier, 256 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: how it almost feels like the pandemic or lockdown or 257 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: whatever sort of accelerated what what what was already happening 258 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: with the gig economy and and uh and and all 259 00:17:43,480 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, it's uh strange. I mean what you 260 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: were talking about with I would assume with the Today 261 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,680 Speaker 1: Show when you would come home and get to be 262 00:17:53,840 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: with your family and then get that that big packet 263 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: of homework that must have been you know, it's it's 264 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,800 Speaker 1: sounds like it sounds exhausting, but there is something really 265 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 1: comforting about it now and sort of straightforward about this 266 00:18:07,160 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: is what you have to do for tomorrow and that's 267 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,760 Speaker 1: what it is, and and and you're not going to 268 00:18:12,840 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: be bothered and this is this isn't all going to 269 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: be turned upside down and changed and changed. I mean, 270 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,920 Speaker 1: unless there's some big words, there's a big news story. 271 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 1: But it's funny because you know, I always remind myself 272 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: that iPhones didn't come out till two eight and so 273 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,959 Speaker 1: all through the nineties, in the early two thousand's, Um, 274 00:18:33,000 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: you know, I could be with my kids at the 275 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: park without an eruption. I wasn't looking at my phone. 276 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: Uh uh, you know, flip bones were just kind of 277 00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: coming out then, and I could be so much more present. 278 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,400 Speaker 1: And I remember reading that Susan Surrandon and Tim Robbins, 279 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,919 Speaker 1: when they were married, had a house rule that they 280 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 1: wouldn't answer the phone between five and eight, which is 281 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:01,160 Speaker 1: so funny now when you think about it, because people 282 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 1: don't even have landlines anymore, and now we're all addicted 283 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,800 Speaker 1: to our phones, and to be able to be away 284 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: from it for three hours, it's almost a herculean feet 285 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:16,920 Speaker 1: So it's just crazy how it's it's almost um, how 286 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:21,960 Speaker 1: much this new way of living has slowly, and I 287 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:28,880 Speaker 1: would say malevolently, seeped into our our very beans, you know. Um. 288 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: And I don't think for the better coming up Adam's 289 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 1: Aha moment, done dunune done done dunda. Oh that sounded bad. 290 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: Right after this, I wanted to take a moment because 291 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: I know you're from Santa Cruz, Adam, and I'm just curious. 292 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: I always love to hear people's origin stories, and I'm 293 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: curious how you got bitten by the acting bug in 294 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: the first place, and and and how you found yourself 295 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 1: on on this Thespian road if you will, Yeah, the 296 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 1: the Thespian Avenue actor Lane. Um. Yeah, you know, I 297 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 1: think it was really pretty simple and maybe shallow, but 298 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: or not shallow, but I think it was pretty simple, 299 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 1: which was I was always sort of interested. But then, um, 300 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 1: I saw Raiders of the Lost Art and I think 301 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: it was right at the age because it came out 302 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,399 Speaker 1: in what eighty one eighty two, and so I was 303 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: eight nine years old. I remember seeing that movie. I 304 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 1: remember getting back to my friend's house and rushing to 305 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,359 Speaker 1: a phone, to a landline and calling my mom because 306 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 1: I had to unload all these feelings because I had 307 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: just seemed something and nothing would ever be the same again. 308 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: This movie didn't stop. It was just fun all the 309 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 1: way through. And it was hilarious. And you know, you 310 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 1: watch that movie now and there are jokes, not just 311 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: like funny asides, there are jokes and good ones. Um 312 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: uh and uh, and I just it just blew my mind. 313 00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: And you know something, you know back then, you know, 314 00:21:38,480 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: I went to see that movie so so many times. Uh, 315 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: And I still love it and have to watch it 316 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: a couple of times a year. But I think that 317 00:21:47,359 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: was the beginning of I say simple because it was 318 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:57,760 Speaker 1: as simple as I want to do that. That looks like, 319 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: there's what else would you could you possibly want to 320 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 1: do the other than that than the Harrison Ford. Jesus, 321 00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: that looks great. I mean, talk about getting the girls 322 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 1: yet getting the girls getting to Jesus dirty. You're jumping 323 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: from one thing to the other, smarter than everyone else, 324 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: making mistakes but then making up for it. He's a 325 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: flawed guy. He also was a professor. My dad was 326 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 1: a professor, so there was a lot of that too. 327 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: Like I saw my dad and him, I still do 328 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 1: when I watch any Harrison Ford thing, I feel I 329 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 1: feel my kind of see my dad in that. But 330 00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:41,679 Speaker 1: the professor, the college professor, which is what my my 331 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: dad was before he retired, and so uh so it 332 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: was just the perfect recipe for me and millions of others. 333 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously it was this phenomenon and and then 334 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 1: Temple of Doom. Maybe I may even like that more. 335 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:02,560 Speaker 1: I just of that too, So that was kind of 336 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: the start of it. And it was just like the 337 00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: secret I harbored for years and years that this is 338 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: what I wanted to do, but I was embarrassed by it, 339 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,840 Speaker 1: so I never really told anyone that this is what 340 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:18,400 Speaker 1: I planned on doing, um until years and years later. 341 00:23:18,560 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: But that was the Uh, that was kind of the 342 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:25,919 Speaker 1: start of it. It was Raiders. It's amazing, isn't it 343 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 1: how one film can be so transformative? And which is 344 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: I think the beauty of all different kinds of art forms, 345 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 1: whether it's a book or a movie or a piece 346 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: of art anyway. But so when did you start for 347 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: real pursuing this career? Um? Did you do dinner theater? Adam? No, 348 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,840 Speaker 1: but I I've been to the dinner theater, and uh, 349 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: that's an experience, uh, actually getting like, you know, baked 350 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: Alaska while you're watching Dames at Sea? Like what else? 351 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: What else could you ask for? Um? I I did 352 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,000 Speaker 1: the you know, theater in high school and and all 353 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: of that, and then um, and then uh went to 354 00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: acting school after that. You know, when I was like 355 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: a junior in high school, I finally kind of said 356 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: I think I can do this and and and there 357 00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: was sort of a social stigma of being a theater 358 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: person at my high school, so I didn't really want 359 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: to commit fully. But but then uh, did and and 360 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: and and sort of let it out there that this 361 00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: is something I want to pursue. And and went to 362 00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: acting school after high school and in Pasadena, California's where 363 00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:46,120 Speaker 1: the acting school was, and I was in nine one. 364 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: I came down here and I went to the school 365 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: for a couple of years, and then came here to 366 00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: Hollywood and nine fall of ninety three and just started, 367 00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 1: you know, doing extra work and our background and uh, 368 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,040 Speaker 1: scrounging around for auditions, just doing anything I could, you know. Yeah, well, 369 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, I've been in l A for a couple 370 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,959 Speaker 1: of months and it's made me think of, you know, 371 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: the entertainment industry a lot, and being an actor must 372 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: prey on every insecurity you have. And it no wonder 373 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,879 Speaker 1: so many of the kids who who have fame early 374 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 1: on in their lives are so screwed up later. I 375 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 1: mean it is. It is really destabilizing. How do you 376 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: handle kind of the uncertainty and the really I guess capriciousness. I'm, 377 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: by the way, very impressed by my vocabulary during this podcast, 378 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: too excellent. Thank you. I wouldn't expect anything less. I'm 379 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: pulling out all the I'm pulling out all the safety 380 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: words today for some reason. But you know, how do 381 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:56,479 Speaker 1: you handle the uncertainty of being an actor? And you know, 382 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: always kind of now that I've made you probably start 383 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,800 Speaker 1: getting pitted out by even discussing this, But the uncertainty 384 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: of where your next role is going to come from. Yeah, 385 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: that sort of thing never goes away. I mean, I 386 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: I think, you know, I think back to starting out, 387 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, kind of hustling for roles and stuff, trying 388 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 1: to piece something together and Fall of ninety three, so 389 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 1: I was, I was, um, you know, I auditioned for 390 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: Scream and Scream too, and I know what you did 391 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 1: last summer and all of that. I was around for 392 00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: all of that stuff and didn't get any of it. 393 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 1: And uh, like I was, you know, went on thousands 394 00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 1: of auditions and was rejected thousands of times, and uh 395 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,720 Speaker 1: made my living doing like guest spots and stuff and 396 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:54,359 Speaker 1: cobbling something together. But it wasn't until fifteen years in 397 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 1: that I even started to get real traction. But had 398 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: kind of deluded myself into thinking that I was getting 399 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: traction all the way, just keep going, and but then 400 00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:08,919 Speaker 1: once you actually get traction, you look back and you're like, oh, oh, 401 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 1: my god, I was nowhere and the people that loved 402 00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: me were so generous by kind of being, you know, 403 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: helping keep me afloat with that delusion all along, or 404 00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, so anyway, Um, so you just kind of 405 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 1: delude That's how you kept going because I imagine there 406 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:33,040 Speaker 1: are many of people who come to Hollywood, you know, 407 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: hoping to be discovered at the soda fountain, you know, 408 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: or you know, just having one perceptive soul and a 409 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: casting in an audition see something into you or kind 410 00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:48,720 Speaker 1: of give you your first big break. But so many 411 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: people just never get that. And you know, um, and 412 00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: so it sounds like you deluded yourself initially. But is that? 413 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: Is that how you kept going? You kept you kept 414 00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: just saying, well, I'm I'm kind of all that right now, 415 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:06,200 Speaker 1: and I'm just going to kind of build on this. 416 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: Or what other things kept you from saying, you know, 417 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm going to go to business school or I'm gonna 418 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to get the business side of the industry, 419 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:19,360 Speaker 1: because this this is for the birds. There was something, yeah, 420 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 1: I mean there there was something that I always sort 421 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:30,959 Speaker 1: of felt I I had that and doubted over and 422 00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 1: over and over again and gave up on over and 423 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: over again. But something I felt like I still kind 424 00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: of had to offer no matter what. And um and 425 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: I don't know how I kept believing in that because 426 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: there were so many times where any logical person would 427 00:28:56,280 --> 00:29:01,080 Speaker 1: have abandoned it. But I think there was a lack 428 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: of other options because I, like I said from Raiders 429 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: and Pulls Dark, never wanted to do or even thought 430 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: about doing anything else. So I had hadn't nurtured any 431 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: other real interests or skills and uh. And so if 432 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: you didn't make it as an actor, you were kind 433 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: of hosed at him. I think I think you're right. 434 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:30,000 Speaker 1: I think that's you're hitting the nail on the head, 435 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: which is why it's been terrifying and still is terrifying. 436 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 1: You know, you never know. Um uh. You know. Also 437 00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: as I was, you know, going through the nineties and stuff, 438 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: and and I did see a lot of people get 439 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: discovered at the Soda Fountain and get this big flush 440 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,959 Speaker 1: of fame and attention or get that plumb role in 441 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: this or that, and then you see them disappear. I've 442 00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: seen so you know, I've been here almost thirty years. 443 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: I've seen so many people come and go. I've seen 444 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: people come and stick the landing and know what to 445 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: do with it. Like you see Matt Damon, Uh what 446 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: he would He's you know, he's someone that I used 447 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: to see on auditions and and then you see him 448 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: no exactly what to do and how to do it. 449 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: But then that for every one of him, there's a 450 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: hundred others that, um just kind of come and go. 451 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,520 Speaker 1: And I'm so glad I didn't get scream or I 452 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 1: know what you did last summer because I would have 453 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: sucked or I would have not been ready and not 454 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: known what to do with the opportunity and made stupid decisions. 455 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: So uh, you know, UM, it's a it's it's kind 456 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: of a puzzle. I wanted to ask you real quick 457 00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:43,680 Speaker 1: about some of your favorite roles because it seems that 458 00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: you've done, you know, a real variety at them. Tell 459 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: me about some of the highlights that when you look back, 460 00:30:50,040 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: you're like, wow, that was just that was just perfect. 461 00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,680 Speaker 1: You know. Yeah, Um, I've been super lucky and that 462 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,120 Speaker 1: I I do have a uh several of those. I 463 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,840 Speaker 1: can look back on it with so fondly. Um for 464 00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: such a tough business. Sometimes, Um, I've landed in several 465 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: spots where it's just been terrific and and so much fun. 466 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 1: And I certainly attribute that to luck more than anything. Um, 467 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: like you were saying, luck plays a huge part, and 468 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: I've certainly been lucky. Uh. Um. You know, I think 469 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:35,960 Speaker 1: that something that really turned it around for me just 470 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:42,760 Speaker 1: internally was uh, Party Down, which was a show I 471 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 1: just did with my friends. Right. It wasn't for career reasons. 472 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: I don't think my representatives were particularly interested in me 473 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: doing this. Um. It didn't seem to have any advantages 474 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 1: at the time, and it was simply because I wasn't 475 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: able to get anything else. And my friends We're like, hey, 476 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 1: how about we just do this and it seemed fun 477 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 1: and uh, and so so I did it and it 478 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: was fun. It was the most fun. Uh. And that 479 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 1: really makes a difference in what you push then push 480 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: out into the world that you're all enjoying yourselves, you know, 481 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: and um and sort of discovering this fun thing together 482 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: which is what we were all doing on on that show, 483 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: and feeling like, probably no one will ever see this, 484 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 1: so let's just do it for us and each other 485 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,240 Speaker 1: and have a blast. And that's what we did, and 486 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 1: then got to do twenty of them two seasons, and 487 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:52,040 Speaker 1: then eventually years later people did catch onto it and 488 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: and and I found this this audience and uh and 489 00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 1: so that was sort of the reason I say it 490 00:32:58,520 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: was sort of uh uh. I don't know if I 491 00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: said it was a game changer, but it sort of 492 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:08,280 Speaker 1: was just internally because I felt like, oh, this can 493 00:33:08,360 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: be super enjoyable and that makes a big difference in 494 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:17,720 Speaker 1: what I put out there in my work. Um, when 495 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: I watched it, I can tell that's better because I'm 496 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 1: having a lot of fun and just sort of letting 497 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:29,320 Speaker 1: myself have a lot of fun. Um. So that and 498 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,360 Speaker 1: and then Parks sort of came out of that Parks 499 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 1: and Wreck, and that was another example of this is 500 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: a terrific lovely group of people. Um. And we became 501 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: fast friends. And that was five years I was doing that, 502 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:49,040 Speaker 1: and it was you know, driving to work every day 503 00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:53,360 Speaker 1: with your friends and doing silly things, um and heartfelt 504 00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: lovely things as well. That was a really beautifully written 505 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 1: show and character and everything. And so I think with 506 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: those experiences it kind of set a new blueprint for 507 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 1: me as far as what what I what I should do. 508 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: And it was a good lesson, like do something that 509 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:18,280 Speaker 1: is fun and that you would want to watch, and 510 00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: and that has never really failed me. Not that I've 511 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 1: always done that. I've certainly done things for other reasons, 512 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,879 Speaker 1: but it usually works out for me when when those 513 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: are the components. I see, not everybody gets along, Nathan, 514 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 1: I mean, can't we just be comfortable not liking each other? 515 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be a reason. Of course. You also, 516 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:44,960 Speaker 1: I know Adam played uh the Slightly Losers husband of 517 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: Reese Witherspoon and Big Little Lies, which, um, must have 518 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 1: been an interesting experience working with all those strong women, right, Yeah, 519 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 1: it was incredible. Uh, And that was something I Parks 520 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: and Record just ended, and I wanted to try and 521 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: do something a little more dramatic or or or whatever, 522 00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:13,320 Speaker 1: and um, and really sought that out and went and 523 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:16,680 Speaker 1: and auditioned a few times. I really wanted to do that, 524 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: and really had wanted to do anything with Reese for 525 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: years and years, and um, I was so excited to 526 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: uh to to land at and get and get to 527 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: do that. And it took place in Monterey, which is 528 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: right next to Santa Cruz, and so I kind of 529 00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:37,760 Speaker 1: felt a little connected to to a geographically and um, 530 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 1: uh yeah, and getting to work with those incredible women 531 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: was was was an experience as well. They're also um 532 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: so talented and uh and smart, so smart and cool. 533 00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: It was really it was really a great experience speaking 534 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:03,120 Speaker 1: of strong women. When we come back, Adam talks about 535 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: his incredible mom and the weight of losing a parent 536 00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: before we go, I wanna want to talk about your 537 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: mom first of all, I know you lost your mom. 538 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: I believe ad him in it. Yeah, right before luck. 539 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,680 Speaker 1: It was March five, so it was right before everything 540 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: sort of turned upside down. But that was, I know, 541 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:38,360 Speaker 1: just a devastating loss. You know. I'm I've done um 542 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,759 Speaker 1: a lot some fundraising or contributed to Project a l 543 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,080 Speaker 1: S because I became very friendly with Jennifer Estes, who 544 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,080 Speaker 1: started Naked Angels, a theater company in New York City, 545 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: who was diagnosed with a l S UM when she 546 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:57,600 Speaker 1: was very young. And uh, it is such a cruel, 547 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: heartbreaking disease. I mean, you know it firsthand. And what 548 00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: was your mom sick for a long time or was 549 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: it relatively fast? It it really tore through her quickly, 550 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 1: it was you know, it's a particularly cruel disease. It's 551 00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:21,279 Speaker 1: it's just devastating. And uh it it was just a 552 00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 1: couple of years. Uh it you know, she was in 553 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:30,440 Speaker 1: her early seventies and and yeah, it moved quickly. I 554 00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:33,239 Speaker 1: know sometimes it moved slower, but with her, it was 555 00:37:33,320 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 1: just a couple of years sort of end to end, 556 00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: and um, yeah it was it was. It was devastating. 557 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:41,879 Speaker 1: It's a sort of disease where you just don't want 558 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: to think about the nightmare being trapped in your body, right, 559 00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 1: I mean, and mentally most in most cases, I'm not 560 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,160 Speaker 1: a doctor, so I probably shouldn't make this proclamation, but 561 00:37:56,239 --> 00:38:00,960 Speaker 1: I think mentally most people are pretty uh sharp, and 562 00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:06,759 Speaker 1: their bodies just betraying them slowly but surely. And let 563 00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 1: you know that you and your mom were extremely close, 564 00:38:11,200 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: and uh, tell me a little bit about her, because 565 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: sometimes I think we focus on the way people died 566 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:23,280 Speaker 1: instead of the way they lived. Thank you. That's really 567 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:31,360 Speaker 1: uh sweet. Um she was a really uh incredible person 568 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:38,480 Speaker 1: and uh uh a person who kind of lived you know, 569 00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: turned it up to eleven. She was you know, out outdoor, 570 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: it was always out running or walking or you know, 571 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,920 Speaker 1: grew up in Santa CRUs so we had you know, 572 00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,480 Speaker 1: I grew up with a little bit of a hippie 573 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 1: ish vibe to everything. Not that she had time to 574 00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 1: be a hippie because she had was raising three kids 575 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:03,239 Speaker 1: and she was a public school teacher. Um, but being 576 00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: kind of outdoorsy and granola was something I always uh 577 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 1: teased her about and always have fun fun with. Like 578 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 1: we didn't really have a TV in the house. It 579 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:16,960 Speaker 1: was that sort of thing, um, And she probably had 580 00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: what what was it when we were kids. You're, as 581 00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,880 Speaker 1: I said, you're probably ten or fifteen years younger than 582 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: I am, Adam, But what was it? What like the 583 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:28,960 Speaker 1: precursor to granola was like gorp or something or gorp. 584 00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: Oh I as I grew up with gore. I was 585 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,640 Speaker 1: going to say, it sounds like it sounds like a 586 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: very gorpy household. One dent a lot of spiro leina. 587 00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:43,160 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, you know. Whole Foods is like I grew 588 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: up going to the Staff of Life, which was the 589 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: health food store in Santa Cruz and and I just 590 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:50,400 Speaker 1: you know it was making jokes about it by the 591 00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 1: time I was like six years old. Um. Uh. You know, 592 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: she was an incredibly unique person. I was allowed to 593 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:00,359 Speaker 1: cuss as much as I wanted as a as we 594 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,359 Speaker 1: were in our home, and so were my friends when 595 00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:05,800 Speaker 1: they came over. So when we were in elementary school, 596 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: they would come over and immediately walk in the house 597 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: and be like f you and and she'd be and 598 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: she'd just be like, hey, f you you little shit. Uh. 599 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: And they I mean loved it. And these are like 600 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:25,600 Speaker 1: twelve year old kids. They get to come over and cuss. Um. Yeah, 601 00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: it was very And once I had kids, I had 602 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: mixed feelings about her doing this with my you know it, 603 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: you know, really put it to the test. Um, But 604 00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 1: it was it was great. And so she was the 605 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,319 Speaker 1: ultimate cool mom from from day one. And um, like 606 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 1: I said, she was a public school the special teacher 607 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,640 Speaker 1: at at the high school I actually went to, and uh, 608 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: it was just an extraordinary person. And so and we 609 00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:57,000 Speaker 1: were very close. And she was the first person I shared, um, 610 00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,719 Speaker 1: my ambition to be a professional actor when I was 611 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:04,799 Speaker 1: fifteen or sixteen, And her reaction is what kind of 612 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,480 Speaker 1: gave me the confidence to then share it with with others. 613 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: You know what her reaction her it was, Um, I 614 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: was watching the Academy Awards whatever the year was, when 615 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:23,399 Speaker 1: River Phoenix was nominated for Running on Empty I don't 616 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,880 Speaker 1: remember him and stand by me. Oh sure. Running on 617 00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 1: Empty is a Sidney Lumette movie. He was nominated for 618 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 1: for Best Supporting Actor. But it was the Oscars were 619 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:35,200 Speaker 1: on and she came into my room and I pointed 620 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 1: to the TV and I said, hey, you know, I 621 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: think I think I can do that, and I think 622 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:46,200 Speaker 1: I can do it, uh better than than some people. 623 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: And she just said, yeah, I know, you can't go 624 00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: to bed and close the door. It was just she 625 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: didn't even think about it for a second. She just 626 00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:01,360 Speaker 1: and that was. Um, you know, there was no condescension 627 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: in her approval of my idea. It was just logical 628 00:42:05,360 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 1: to her. And uh, you know, it was always beyond, 629 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,279 Speaker 1: you know, supportive to the point of of of like 630 00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: any son with their mom being overly supportive get annoyed 631 00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:24,480 Speaker 1: by it. But um, just you know, I was properly 632 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 1: loved growing up and that's that's really what you can 633 00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:30,800 Speaker 1: ask for with with a mother. And so you know, um, 634 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 1: it was a particularly devastating loss, I think, you know, 635 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: for anyone losing their their mom and stuff. Yeah, I agree. 636 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,560 Speaker 1: I think you just there's no if if you're lucky 637 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,920 Speaker 1: enough to be the product of good parenting, you know, 638 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 1: and I realized as I get older, we are very 639 00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:56,840 Speaker 1: fortunate because so many people, for whatever reasons, don't receive 640 00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: that kind of unconditional love from their parents. But um, 641 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,000 Speaker 1: you know, we're so so fortunate. And I in my book, 642 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:07,800 Speaker 1: I wrote, my minister told me after my mom died, 643 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: I was just devastated. I can't remember it was after 644 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:12,840 Speaker 1: my dad or my mom died. I was just just 645 00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I was just so lost and so so upset. 646 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 1: And he said, those who love deeply grieved deeply. And 647 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,280 Speaker 1: that always made me feel It always made me turn 648 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: the loss into a gain, if that makes sense. It 649 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:36,720 Speaker 1: always made me really appreciate my good fortune and having 650 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 1: really wonderful parents. And also, you know, I lost my 651 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,120 Speaker 1: husband and my sister, so I've had a loss and 652 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: a lot of loss in my life. And um, but 653 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,759 Speaker 1: I think for I think for especially for parents, you 654 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 1: think that really profound, deep deep loss. Um is because 655 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,319 Speaker 1: I think you feel I feel even more when you 656 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: have you know, you've been the recipient of unconditional love. 657 00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:06,560 Speaker 1: So yeah, but your mom was too young. Your mom 658 00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:12,399 Speaker 1: was too young for sure. Yeah, It's something I didn't anticipate, 659 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,120 Speaker 1: you know, because she was sick. For a while, we 660 00:44:15,200 --> 00:44:18,320 Speaker 1: knew what was coming, but then the moment it happens, 661 00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: there's a shift in It's a your your world does 662 00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,799 Speaker 1: change the moment it happens, no matter how much you 663 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:32,200 Speaker 1: are expecting it. And what I realized was, you know, 664 00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,319 Speaker 1: with parents, you're you realize that you part of what 665 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:39,879 Speaker 1: you're doing throughout your life is for them for them 666 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: to see and for them to be able to tell 667 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,480 Speaker 1: them about something or let them kind of see what 668 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,320 Speaker 1: you're doing out in the world or with your family 669 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: or whether kind of everything. It's sort of a uh, 670 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: this watchful eye that's suddenly gone, that uh that is 671 00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's something that it's it's it's more 672 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: of a feeling than trying to intellectualize it like that 673 00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 1: is tough. It's tough to put put into words, but 674 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: it's an emotional thing that that it's almost hard to 675 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:17,880 Speaker 1: explain unless someone has lost a parent, um and a 676 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:23,440 Speaker 1: good parent especially Yes, exactly exactly. I would imagine it's 677 00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:27,080 Speaker 1: different if if it was a different situation, Well, I 678 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,959 Speaker 1: I'll have to think about if I ever have grandkids, 679 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:35,880 Speaker 1: if my my domicile will be a you know, cuss 680 00:45:37,320 --> 00:45:40,600 Speaker 1: what do you call it a cuss zone? Like you 681 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,279 Speaker 1: can say whatever you want kids my care you would 682 00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,240 Speaker 1: totally not approve. I have to be honest with you, Adam, 683 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: My my dad would would give, would never really let 684 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:56,600 Speaker 1: me cuss as a kid. But um, you know, now 685 00:45:56,640 --> 00:45:59,520 Speaker 1: everybody drops the F bomb so much you're walking down 686 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,000 Speaker 1: the street. It's just like every other word. But I 687 00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: sound like a you know, prudish year old lady. But 688 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: um no, I agree it it needs to be artfully 689 00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 1: done in order for it to land properly. And by 690 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 1: the way, if I ever did it disrespectfully or did 691 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:20,520 Speaker 1: it with anger or disrespect, you told your mother to 692 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: go at herself. Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, 693 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,600 Speaker 1: no no. It had to be certainly in a in 694 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 1: a joking manner. Otherwise I was in huge, deep trouble 695 00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: to be sure. Well, I'm so happy that we got 696 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: a chance to to talk. Please forget my blanket. It's 697 00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,680 Speaker 1: so cool, are you kidding? I mean, I've never done 698 00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:48,760 Speaker 1: this before and it is kind of hilarious. So maybe 699 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: we'll have to run a clip of this podcast to 700 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:58,360 Speaker 1: show how you can start that Katie Couric podcast hood 701 00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 1: that you wear it for recording and that's ane, that's 702 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:07,279 Speaker 1: an idea. Well, thanks again. I really enjoyed. I really 703 00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:10,240 Speaker 1: enjoyed getting to know you and talking to you, and 704 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:15,320 Speaker 1: uh I hope our paths cross again someday. Same. Thank you, Katie, 705 00:47:15,320 --> 00:47:20,160 Speaker 1: thanks for having me. That was the ever charming Adam Scott. 706 00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:22,680 Speaker 1: I know it's weird, but I kind of want to 707 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: be his friend. His new show is called Severance and 708 00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: it's streaming now on Apple TV. Next Question with Katie 709 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 1: Kurik is a production of My Heart Media and Katie 710 00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,880 Speaker 1: Kurk Media. The executive producers Army, Katie Curic, and Courtney Litz. 711 00:47:44,239 --> 00:47:49,160 Speaker 1: The supervising producer is Lauren Hansen. 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