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Speaker 1: Well, we got we have some really really interesting matchups

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Speaker 1: as we head into the Thanksgiving weekend. With that forty

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Speaker 1: six years at NFL Films, Greg Cosells joining us, we

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Speaker 1: all get smarter, all right. So I thought that was

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Speaker 1: about as well as Caleb has played last week. He

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Speaker 1: still misses layups. He had three passes in the first

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Speaker 1: half that couple sailed. Philadelphia's defense, especially defensive interior linebacker

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Speaker 1: is rangey and fast and aggressive. The corners are good

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Speaker 1: thoughts on what you're seeing from Caleb and how it

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I thought Caleb for the most part last week

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Speaker 3: was very controlled, very calculated. The biggest issue that he

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Speaker 3: has and I heard you're talking about the completion percentage,

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Speaker 3: But the thing is he misses routine throws. Those are

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Speaker 3: throws you can miss if he can clean that up,

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Speaker 3: then his growth will be really really positive. He's cut

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Speaker 3: down a bit, of course. I thought his old line

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Speaker 3: last week did a very very good job against a

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Speaker 3: tough Steelers pass rush. Obviously high Smith has been out,

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Speaker 3: but I thought the old line did a really good job.

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Speaker 3: They played Osie Trapillo, the rookie from Boston College at

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Speaker 3: was very controlled, very calculated, and I think the more

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Speaker 3: he plays like that. You know, the number one stat

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Speaker 3: but really, for me, I think the best stat that

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Speaker 3: really reflects a sense of growth is he does not

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Speaker 3: get sacked a lot. And you and I both know

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Speaker 3: at USC he got sacked a ton, and last year

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Speaker 3: as you see a quarterback get sacked, they think it's

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Speaker 3: on the old line. That's actually not the case. More

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Speaker 3: sacks are the results of the quarterback than the old line.

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Speaker 3: And this year he's not getting sacked much at all.

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Speaker 3: I think he's only been sacked fifteen or sixteen times.

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Speaker 3: So to me, that's a sure sign of his better

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Speaker 3: understanding of the offense. The offensive concepts, and obviously he's

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Speaker 3: playing with a new coordinator, so he's developing very nicely.

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia's offense, Saquon Barkley is a non factor. Now, is

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Speaker 1: it like baseball? Like in baseball, there's arm fatigue, Like

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel like he's got the juice. Or

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Speaker 1: is it the OC? Is it the old line? How

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Speaker 1: do we describe what's going on with Saquon and the

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Speaker 3: I mean, I would say the old line is the

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Speaker 3: biggest culprit Colin. I would say that Jurgens has not

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Speaker 3: The same can be said for Landon Dickerson at left guard,

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Speaker 3: and Jordan may Alatta has not played well this year

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Speaker 3: at all. So what's happening is Barkley does not get

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Speaker 3: He only gains about two yards before first contact, so

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Speaker 3: So it's almost hard to tell you know, what Barkley

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Speaker 3: I mean when he ran sixty five yards for a

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Speaker 3: no problem. But the old line, to me, has been

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Speaker 3: other things, you can try. You know, that's not the

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Speaker 3: way the Eagles have played. The Eagles are basically sticking

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Speaker 1: So Shanor Sanders I said, I had predicted he'll be

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Speaker 1: overall he gives him a more of a big play component,

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Speaker 3: Well his best play and it was a great play.

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Speaker 3: And there's no way to say that other than that

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Speaker 3: The ball traveled sixty yards in the air. That was

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Speaker 3: the most part, Colin, they didn't ask him to do

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Speaker 3: tough game. To get a true read on what he is.

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Speaker 3: We'll need to see a game, because they controlled that game.

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Speaker 3: They were never really there was no sense in that

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Speaker 3: So we need to see a lot more. I came

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Speaker 1: Sanders, I claim after watching Brought thirty on Monday, his

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that when Purdy's at his best, he

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Speaker 3: I think both those things which made him so good

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Speaker 3: And that's what he has to play as because he's

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Speaker 3: not a velocity thrower to begin with. Colin, as you know,

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Speaker 3: So right now, the post snap operation for him is

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Speaker 3: what happens there the result of that is the anticipation

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Speaker 3: the first interception by Horn, not the one we're looking

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Speaker 3: the one I'm speaking about. The last interception by Horn.

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Speaker 3: You really can't put on party. That was about as

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Speaker 3: good a play by a corner as you'll ever see.

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Speaker 3: There's no way that a quarterback would have accounted for

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Speaker 3: Horn on the play we're looking at right now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk Chiefs Cowboys. Yeah, you know, we all

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Speaker 1: kind of you know, pulp fun at Jerry Jones, but

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Speaker 1: overshown now that he's healthy. He was great at Texas.

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Speaker 1: He is a player. They're still getting pressure on the

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Speaker 1: quarterback without Micah. Quinton Williams and Kenny Clark have made

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Speaker 1: they're going to address that. I don't know. I like

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Speaker 1: my eyes tell me just on their defense. Forget offense.

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Speaker 1: Yet on defense, right, they're pretty athletic, That's what I see.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean those three interior d linemen with Williams,

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Speaker 3: they were a problem last week for the Eagles. Their

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Speaker 3: concern and their linebacker. You mentioned overshowing their linebacker position.

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Speaker 3: They're playing a lot of guys, they have a deep rotation.

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Speaker 3: They're clearly more athletic. The concern for them is at

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Speaker 3: never know when that'll be. It did not hurt them

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Speaker 3: in any great way last week against Philadelphia, but that's Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: Now they're playing the Chiefs, and the Chiefs are a

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Speaker 3: very odd passing team. Mahomes could be one of the

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Speaker 3: most unique players that I've ever evaluated and studied throughout

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Speaker 3: his career, Colin, because he's not really a pocket technician

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Speaker 3: and he has unbelievable vision, unbelievable awareness of what he's seeing.

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Speaker 3: Now he can make throws from the pocket. I don't

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Speaker 3: want to suggest he can't do that, but when you

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Speaker 3: every play as I do when I watch the coaching tape,

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Speaker 3: you don't see a ton of refined subtlety in their

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Speaker 3: It's a very odd mix, but he's He's just a

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Speaker 1: Listen, I say this about the Cowboys. Dak is having

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Speaker 1: a year. Two star receivers, The young old line is

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Speaker 1: It seems to me their very guards are really good,

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Speaker 1: on third down. Still too many penalties, but we can

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Speaker 1: credit Dak Schottenheimer, George Pickens. This offense is absolutely legit.

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Speaker 1: There's no reason. I mean, Jerry Jones may be a

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Speaker 1: better GM than we give him credit for. But on film,

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Speaker 1: I think they can really go after defense in the

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Speaker 1: it's an elite exceptional offense.

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Speaker 3: Well, I bet most people would be surprised by this

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Speaker 3: given stat Javonte Williams has the second most first down

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Speaker 3: rushes of any back in the league. Why he's rarely

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Speaker 3: per carry on first down. The only back, believe it

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Speaker 3: is not Jonathan Taylor, It's James Cook. So they run

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Speaker 3: the ball on first down. This is not just a

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Speaker 3: let's toss it all over the yard passing game. And

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Speaker 3: George Pickens, you know, I remember watching him his freshman

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Speaker 3: year at Georgia, Okay, and he dominated the SEC as

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Speaker 3: a freshman at Georgia. He is so extremely gifted. Now

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Speaker 3: normally they line him up as the boundary X, the

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Speaker 3: they're starting to move him around Colin and he is

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Speaker 3: a very very difficult cover. And just in terms of

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Speaker 3: physical athletic traits and hands, he's a top five receiver

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Speaker 1: Yeah, No, he was something else at Georgia. All right,

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Speaker 1: last week was tricky because I believe Matt Lafleur, because

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Speaker 4: All right, let's start with Ceedee Lamb. Colin. You know,

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Speaker 5: It's really just like a focus on my end, honestly,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's mostly been against the Eagles. The two Eagle games,

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Speaker 4: So if you're scoring at home. Remember in Vegas he

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Speaker 1: Tell me he's a pro athlete and he's competitive and

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Speaker 4: all he wants to do is blitz the New York Giants, Eagles, Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, man, I'm extra cautions.

432
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Speaker 4: Just mark me down as I want my stars healthy

433
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:17,640
Speaker 4: when it matters, and this game don't mean anything. Final story, Colin,

434
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Speaker 4: There's been a lot of rumors about one that Kevin

435
00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:25,639
Speaker 4: Stefanski intentionally withholding opportunities from Shador Sanders. I think we

436
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 4: both think this is laughable. However, Cleveland's new quarterback one Shaduur,

437
00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:33,840
Speaker 4: talked about his relationship with Stefanski. Here we go.

438
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Speaker 6: Definitely like a coach, you know. He tells me what

439
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Speaker 6: I need to do on and off the field. We've

440
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Speaker 6: definitely grown our relationship and everything is grown. So I'm

441
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Speaker 6: just thankful to be here. I'm definitely not comfortable though,

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Speaker 6: so that's first and foremost that I have another opportunity

443
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Speaker 6: to go out there. But in life, you gotta understand

444
00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,440
Speaker 6: how quickly things come or how long it comes. It

445
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Speaker 6: could be taken at any point in time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 4: Is there any is there any coded language there? It

448
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 4: can be taken at any point in time. Our relationship

449
00:23:05,720 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 4: has grown. Imagine if after year one I came on

450
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Speaker 4: the Herd, I'm like Colin, our relationship has grown. It

451
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Speaker 4: did that's read you didn't like me at the beginning.

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Speaker 1: No, that's that you eventually stopped wearing bicep shirts and

453
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Speaker 1: grew up. J Mack with the news.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the news, And thanks for stopping by the Herd, Lie.

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Speaker 1: Nice, I'm interested to see j Max picks. We have

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Speaker 1: a fun show. What a fun week Uh, it's the Herd.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays.

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Speaker 2: And noone Easter, not a Empacific.

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving is upon us, and the NFL is serving up

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Speaker 1: a full plate of matchups beginning tomorrow right here on Fox.

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Speaker 1: I already, I already I have J Max five picks.

462
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Speaker 1: His last pick is is I already know which way

463
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Speaker 1: it's going because it's a really great pick. And uh,

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Speaker 1: and I know exactly what you're gonna say. Why you

465
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Speaker 1: like the team you like. But well, we'll let the

466
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Speaker 1: audience wait for about five minutes. But I think your

467
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Speaker 1: last pick is really a sharp pick. So we call

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Speaker 1: this tomorrow's headlines today Packers Lions. I think we disagree here.

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Speaker 1: What do you say?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: You know, listen, I love the Thanksgiving games. First of all,

472
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Speaker 4: Casey Dallas gonna be great. We'll get there shortly. But

473
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Speaker 4: this game I'm fascinated with, Colin. I really do believe

474
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Speaker 4: one of these teams could be super Bowl bound. The

475
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Speaker 4: headline for Packers Lions will be let me see you,

476
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Speaker 4: Cassie roll, Motown gets green baked. Yes, sir, give me

477
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Speaker 4: the Green Bay Packers here, Colin, how about this stat

478
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Speaker 4: This is the first time the Packers have been underdogs

479
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Speaker 4: all season. First time. I'm telling you there's a big

480
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Speaker 4: disconnect between with the public seas with Green Bay and

481
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Speaker 4: what they've seen this season and what the market thinks.

482
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Speaker 4: I'm just telling you, if you think the Packers are

483
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Speaker 4: the side this week, you probably want to bet them

484
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Speaker 4: to win the super Bowl, because I'm telling you this

485
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 4: is a great matchup for the Packers. They run a

486
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Speaker 4: lot of stunts, right, Colin, Where Michael Parson starts on

487
00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,640
Speaker 4: the edge and then come guess we're Detroit's weakest interior

488
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Speaker 4: offensive line. Goff got beat up last week by the Giants.

489
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Speaker 4: And speaking of last week, I know you want to

490
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,280
Speaker 4: kind of poop poo it ouh. That was a look

491
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 4: ahead game. I get that. You know that's fine. They were.

492
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Speaker 4: The defense was on the field for seventy seven plays

493
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Speaker 4: against Jameis Winston and company. Okay, I think even though

494
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 4: Love has a busted up shoulder and he had to

495
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 4: hand off with his right hand regardless of which side,

496
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Speaker 4: not great. I think the Packers have some success. Keep

497
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Speaker 4: an eye on Christian Watson against the Detroit man defense.

498
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Speaker 4: Watson to Berner indoors, there's a world where he rupts.

499
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Speaker 4: I'm starting him in all my fantasy leagues. I like

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Speaker 4: the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Here Colin Tomorrow's headlines today Chiefs at the Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm five and oh picking against the Chiefs

503
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Speaker 4: the season. You know that was my off season. Take

504
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Speaker 4: I'm a public enemy number one in case, the headline

505
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Speaker 4: for Chiefs Cowboys will be simply see delicious boys pickings

506
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Speaker 4: their teeth and go dack for seconds. Yes, I'm going

507
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Speaker 4: with Dallas here. It's weird. This is the same team

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Speaker 4: Colin that lost to Arizona at home, remember that a

509
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 4: couple of weeks ago. Yeah, and then they lost to

510
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Speaker 4: Carolina on the road. And we know Carolina is not good.

511
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Speaker 4: But for whatever reason, for the big boys, Dallas shows up.

512
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,320
Speaker 4: Both games against Philly were really close and tight, and

513
00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 4: they pulled one out. I do believe this Dallas offense

514
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,640
Speaker 4: is going to give Casey a world of problems. You know, Spagnolo,

515
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 4: what's his DNA blitz blitz blitz you had the SAT earlier.

516
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 4: Dak's like one of the best quarterbacks in the league

517
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Speaker 4: against a blitz this season. And I know McDuffie is

518
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Speaker 4: thought of a superstar. He's better on the inside. He's

519
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 4: playing a lot of outside. He's having a good season,

520
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 4: but he's not like a lockdown corner that he was

521
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Speaker 4: when they had Snead on the outside. Now, just to

522
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Speaker 4: be clear, Kansas City first indoor game this season, yea

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Speaker 4: Worthy and Rice they could eat. But what I Kansas

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Speaker 4: City weird? Like the last three weeks, Colin, They've played

525
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Speaker 4: run heavy teams Denver, Buffalo, and then last week. I'm

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Speaker 4: forgetting of a Colt with Jonathan Taylor. Dallas is not

527
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Speaker 4: run heavy, so I do believe there's gonna be points here.

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Speaker 4: I'm on the over and give me the three and

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Speaker 4: a half the hook if you can get it, Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 4: I like him to win outright, Colin?

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Speaker 1: All right, Tomorrow's headlines today Big AFC South battle Texans

532
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Speaker 1: better at home usually at the Colts.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, not a sexy game, but this is

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Speaker 4: one of my bigger ones this month. The headline for

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Speaker 4: Colts Texans will be lost track of time, Texans salty

536
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 4: after dashes of Danny. Yes, I do believe the Texans

537
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 4: are overvalued here coming off that win against Buffalo. By

538
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 4: the way, Buffalo's tackles were both beat up in that game.

539
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 4: Neither of them is practicing right now, so that's part

540
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Speaker 4: of why Will Anderson and Hunter look so good in

541
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Speaker 4: that game. At the same time, I'm keeping a track

542
00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 4: on CJ. Shroud, so he's at practice as of like

543
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 4: six minutes ago. Still has not been cleared from concussion protocol.

544
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 4: But he might be and that would be a big

545
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Speaker 4: get back. But this is about the Colts. Colin, remember

546
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 4: the last few games they played outdoors at Pittsburgh. Look

547
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 4: kind of slow. They played outdoors last week against Casey

548
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 4: look kind of slow. The game in Berlin didn't have

549
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 4: the same pop. They're coming back to the Dome now, Colin.

550
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 4: I think this is a Psichen special. Danny Dimes has

551
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 4: a real big game, and keep an eye on Jonathan

552
00:28:11,520 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 4: Taylor obviously on the ground. I like the Colts here

553
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 4: at home. Sauce Gardner also versus Nico Collins. I think

554
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,480
Speaker 4: that's a good matchup. I don't know if you saw

555
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:22,960
Speaker 4: this the Patrick Mahomes passing chart last week. He did

556
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 4: not throw to the left side of the field at all,

557
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 4: like zero completions. Sauce Gardner was over there a lot,

558
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 4: so I think Sauce really changes the calculus of this defense.

559
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 4: I like the Colts.

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00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: Tomorrow's headlines today. I got a feeling I know where

561
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: you're leaning here, Raiders at the Chargers. Chargers off al bye, So.

562
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Speaker 4: Me and a buddy are still alive in Survivor and

563
00:28:42,120 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 4: we like the Chargers this week. I know divisional matchups

564
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 4: are scary, but the headline for Chargers Raiders will be

565
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:53,520
Speaker 4: much ado about stuffing Chargers keep the gent y in

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Speaker 4: a bottle. That's assuming GENTI even plays. Colin he got

567
00:28:56,960 --> 00:28:59,360
Speaker 4: busted up the ankle. I mean, listen, the Raiders are

568
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,280
Speaker 4: in disarray. I don't know what to make of your boy,

569
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Speaker 4: Chip Kelly. He got fired. They fired his right hand man.

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Speaker 4: I mean, they got some guy who's been there forever

571
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Speaker 4: calling plays. I don't really understand how they have a

572
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Speaker 4: chance here against Harbor and company. Did you see what

573
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Speaker 4: Harbaugh did, by the way, for the team, gave them

574
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Speaker 4: extra days off on the bye week just to kind

575
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Speaker 4: of recalibrate, chill out, get your mind right after getting

576
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Speaker 4: spanked by the Jags. I think the Chargers are okay here.

577
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 4: By the way, they destroyed the Raiders in two matchups

578
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Speaker 4: last season. I think a big coaching edge for Harball.

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Speaker 4: And they have Derwin James. Remember he's like the Travis

580
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 4: Kelcey stopper. I think he does a good enough job

581
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 4: on Brock Bowers did a good job twice last season

582
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 4: that I think the Chargers get it done. Really hoping

583
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:41,720
Speaker 4: that o'mary and Hampton, the great rookie running back, I

584
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Speaker 4: hope he returns. Still no clarity if he's going to

585
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Speaker 4: be back this week.

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Speaker 1: This final one. I think I probably should have included

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Speaker 1: this in the Blazing Five. Tomorrow's headlines today, the weary

588
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Speaker 1: Giants travel again, this time to the Patriots.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Giants don't what to make of this team. So

590
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: they covered against Detroit. They nearly beat Green Bay outright,

591
00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 4: they got to push there. Jamis is showing up. Do

592
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Speaker 4: you start him again? Or Jackson Dart? The headline for

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Speaker 4: Patriots Giants on Sunday will be digs in a Blanket.

594
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Speaker 4: Pat's wrap things up before dinner. I'm rolling with Drake

595
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 4: mate a little reluctantly, Colin. I just saw the news.

596
00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 4: Will Campbell, the rookie left tackle, just placed on ir

597
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 4: so he's out this week for the next four. That's

598
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 4: not great news given the Giants having an edge rusher's

599
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 4: galore with Brian Burns and company. So I have some skepticism.

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00:30:36,120 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 4: But this is just basically hand the ball off to

601
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Speaker 4: Stevenson and Henderson and let them cook.

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00:30:41,480 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 3: Right.

603
00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 4: The Giants have the worst run defense in the league

604
00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 4: by a mile. Gibbs just went for two fifteen or

605
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Speaker 4: whatever on the ground, so I think this is pretty easy.

606
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Speaker 4: But I do wonder con in the back of my

607
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 4: head are the Patriots like getting a little fatigued? Is

608
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 4: the pressure wearing on them because they have not looked

609
00:30:57,560 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: amazing the last couple weeks. That again, Cincinnati was disappointing

610
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 4: all the failures inside the five yard line. So I'm

611
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 4: on the Patriots here. I like a flat seven better

612
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 4: than a seven and a half.

613
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 3: I don't know.

614
00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 4: Jameis Winston keeps shocking me the way he's playing. I

615
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 4: did not see this out of him. But I'm rolling

616
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 4: with the Patriots here as big favorites.

617
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 1: You know, we talked about it this week is I've

618
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,240
Speaker 1: never never really thought about it this way, but something

619
00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,960
Speaker 1: just came up to me watching Jameis Winston this week

620
00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 1: is that there's three kinds of quarterbacks. There's franchise guys,

621
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Speaker 1: and there's always been backups. And you can tell the

622
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: backups they get drafted fourth, fifth, sixth, seventh round, or

623
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Speaker 1: it's a high round pick that you know pretty early's

624
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: not going to work. Jamis is the classic to me bridge.

625
00:31:42,400 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 1: You can start him for a year and win eight

626
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:48,600
Speaker 1: or nine games. I think honestly, right now in Carolina

627
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: they're trying to figure out what Bryce Young is. Is

628
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: he like the best bridge in the league because he's

629
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,440
Speaker 1: all over the map, I mean, in the he's got

630
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 1: two good receivers, he's got a start back. The defense

631
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:02,240
Speaker 1: is better, He's all over the map. He's in the

632
00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: eighties on pack, and he's got an offensive coach. Bryce

633
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: Young should be better. It's also a weak Wonky division,

634
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:11,280
Speaker 1: so it's like it's Bryce Young. Mac Jones, by the way,

635
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: I think is a great bridge. I'm not building around

636
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 1: him now. I think Sam Darnold is a franchise guy.

637
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: I'll think a lot of people before Seattle were very

638
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 1: you know, they were very cynical, like it was Minnesota.

639
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: Now you watch him and you're like, Okay, he's a

640
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: franchise guy. Winning record Carolina, great year, Minnesota, great year

641
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: in Seattle, Mac Jones bridge guy. I think Bryce Young

642
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: probably falls into that. But when you ask about Jameis Winston,

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Speaker 1: he is the classic bridge. Like you're not gonna build

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Speaker 1: around him and hire coordinators for him. But dude, if

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Speaker 1: I said against the Patriots he threw for four touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: you would not be shocked. And he also threw three picks.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you, if you mentioned Bryce Young as

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Speaker 4: a bridge guy, do you keep him one more year?

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Speaker 4: You do not extend him, and you draft a guy

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Speaker 4: like Carson Beck, which is his bowler opposite. I know

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Speaker 4: nobody likes Beck. Listen, and he's going to be drafted. Okay,

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Speaker 4: he's sixty four with a huge arm. He's the opposite

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Speaker 4: of young who's small and was highly touted. So I

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Speaker 4: think you're probably onto something there. All I know is,

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Speaker 4: if Jamis is a bridge, I don't want him bridging

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Speaker 4: anybody with the New York Jets. Keep him with the Giants.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, maybe it's two weeks of fourth gold.

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Speaker 4: I don't want him with the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think justin field, we've gotten to a point. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he may just be a backup. Yeah, he's definitely not.

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Speaker 4: Even a bridge.

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Speaker 1: No, yeah, no, he's moved out of the bridge. But there,

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Speaker 1: I will say. In this quarterback class, I think Mac Jones.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you another guy that's very interesting, Davis Mills.

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Speaker 1: All right, to tell you, I'm watching him to.

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Speaker 4: Go into Week one starting Davis Mills, and your whole

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Speaker 4: team is going to think, like, what are we doing?

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Speaker 4: We're not going to the World Dams.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was pretty good against the Bills. He's solid.

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Speaker 1: Come on, what maybe I like Bridges more than you.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting old. I'll start playing bridge here pretty quick.

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Speaker 1: The bridges of Colin Cowherd County see y