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Speaker 1: it for marx. Uh. We got lots to talk about

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Speaker 1: here today, but we start with Game four of the

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Speaker 1: Eastern Conference Finals and Tyrese Haliburton posting an eye opening

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Speaker 1: triple double with Pops in the building to lead his

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Speaker 1: Pacers to the one thirty to one twenty one victory.

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Speaker 1: They now have that three to one lead here in

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Speaker 1: the East Finals. Nixer on the ropes, and in large

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Speaker 1: part because they couldn't get stops there down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: TK. They couldn't get stops all night. No, it's that's

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Speaker 2: because Tyrese Haliburton was feeling it from the tip, doing

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Speaker 2: it for dad out there. After Game three, he said,

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Speaker 2: that's not us offensively, we slowed down in the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: We scored one hundred points. That's nothing for us. So

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Speaker 2: he came out super aggressive in the first quarter. I

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Speaker 2: end of twelve minutes, fifteen points, five rebounds, six assists,

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Speaker 2: and three threes in the first quarter. He was looking

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Speaker 2: step back threes, and then he just kept it going

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Speaker 2: the entire night. Finished with thirty two, twelve rebounds, fifteen assists,

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Speaker 2: Incredible performance. That was a turnover by myself right there.

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Speaker 2: Zero turnovers though, but you look at how the Knicks

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Speaker 2: for the entire game. Tyre's Halliburton and I'll played them

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Speaker 2: from a passing standpoint and then it just kind of

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Speaker 2: can't twelve fast break points for Siakam in this one,

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Speaker 2: it felt like he was the fastest guy on the court.

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Speaker 2: He was out round out running Towns after every miss,

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Speaker 2: after a lot of makes, and then on every turnover

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Speaker 2: hasn't worked moving Mitchell Robinson into the starting lineup. This

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Speaker 2: has been an awesome series for Siakim, who had thirty

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Speaker 2: They played pat Pacers basketball last night and it was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the game started at Indiana's pace right task Ye,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Tyres was after Game three. We weren't playing fast

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Speaker 3: the regular season. There's four super stars that had nine

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Speaker 2: He just keeps going.

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Speaker 3: It's the quietest thirty it is. It's so quiet.

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Speaker 2: I don't know, man, he had so many dunks last night.

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Speaker 3: Say more like storylines. He doesn't get the storylines. I

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Speaker 3: mean he's been awesome, of course, but more storylines about

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Speaker 3: Even Miles Turner talk Benedict Mathern will get to in

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Speaker 3: he just does it quarter by quarter by quarter. Right

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Speaker 3: Carl Anthony Townsend this one for sure.

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Speaker 1: I was going to say his name rarely comes up

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Speaker 1: It almost never does, and it should. He is one

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Speaker 2: That was a big thing.

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Speaker 1: Like he just never tires ever, for a guy his

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Speaker 1: What an absolute postseason for this guy once again, and

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Speaker 2: Force steals. I thought was that's the most rebounds he's

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Speaker 2: it was a screen and roll with Nie Smith, who

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Bridges has those picks coming at him. He's

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Speaker 3: It's like the Knicks are just behind every freaking play.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's good to go. Not the case at all.

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Speaker 2: He looked awesome in this one. I said, it was

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Speaker 2: In the thirty minutes he played, Jalen Brunson went three

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Speaker 3: If we didn't know that the guy got hurt, you'd

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Speaker 3: no worries about it. I don't know if he talked

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Speaker 3: rest of the game. Carl Anthony Towns, the guy was bawling.

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Speaker 3: He was playing very well. He was scoring, he kept

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Speaker 3: going left, scored twenty four points. Decided all right, Pascal

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Speaker 3: Third quarter. That worked. Good move by Rick Carlisle, Rick Carlo,

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Speaker 3: I think it just was smart in every little thing

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Speaker 1: He banged it there near the end of the game

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Speaker 1: This guy had a really good regular season but has

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Speaker 1: prior to tonight. The fewest minutes by a player with

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Speaker 3: Ben laughing, Well, just bendic Mathurin scoring twenty points in

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Speaker 3: twelve minutes and twenty nine seconds, now the fewest minutes

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Speaker 3: for a twenty point game in NBA history. Just those

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Speaker 3: random stats and just see it over Leon Po fourteen

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Speaker 3: minutes and thirty nine seconds in Game two of the

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Speaker 3: NBA Finals. I'm also laughing because, yeah, man, it took

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Speaker 3: them were sort of in garbage town, yeah, to get there.

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Speaker 3: And if it's them against OKC in the finals, there

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Speaker 3: will be a storyline of if he is SGA's daddy

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Speaker 3: being also a free throw merchant to some degree a

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that'll be worse than the Battle of

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Speaker 2: the Cousins. If they go Mathern versus SGA Canadians.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, I'm looking ahead, but I I'm excited for

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Speaker 1: Nie Smith on SGA and dort On Halliburton. My god,

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Speaker 1: if we get that, that'll be fun as hell trying

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Speaker 2: With I just think it's hilarious. Literally, in game three,

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Speaker 2: Reggie Miller just said, Benedict Mathren has been so bad

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Speaker 2: in this series. Sounds like a fan talking about his team,

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Speaker 2: which that's exactly what's happening on the broadcast. But he

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Speaker 2: so good. He was just driving, He was relentless, and

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Speaker 2: he was you know, I said Siakam was probably the

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Speaker 2: going as hard as possible as I can. That pass

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Speaker 2: from Mathrin. He is a weird player for this team.

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Speaker 2: He's like the one guy on their team who doesn't

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Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to Rick for playing him a minimum

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Speaker 3: It's surprising that we're seeing Ben Shepherd this much now

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Speaker 3: at this point of the season. But yeah, Rick's playing

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Speaker 3: the numbers correctly. And then when you got to go small,

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Speaker 3: Obi Tappin is jumping in there. And again he's the

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Speaker 3: this game. You just wouldn't think that in a playoff

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Speaker 1: What a weird got sloppy in the fourth quarter, And

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Speaker 1: But then just could never get over that hump because

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Speaker 1: Like they were scoring. They put up a lot of points,

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Speaker 2: Well, they play with two guys who can't play defense.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about best three point percentage, best two point percentage,

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be a problem though for the Knicks, like

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Speaker 2: going forward, like, oh yeah, how do they ever really

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they need to make a move at the five. Really,

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I'm surprised that wasn't all over the internet.

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Speaker 3: I mean, he was literally skating. That was an awesome move.

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Speaker 3: But somehow the Timberwolves built the best defense with Cat,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're playing Robinson with him as a center,

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Speaker 3: The ball a little bit. Yeah, Well, Mitchell just can't

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Pacers won victory away from the NBA Finals, which

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Speaker 1: it's been a long time. But you know, they got

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Speaker 3: I feel like it's over. I don't have a really

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00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,160
Speaker 3: great feeling, but it doesn't feel like I mean, Kat's

429
00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,400
Speaker 3: obviously banged ups. I don't know if I'm gonna play

430
00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:21,399
Speaker 3: into the injuries part, but they just they didn't have

431
00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:22,920
Speaker 3: it in this game. Can they do it for their

432
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:27,119
Speaker 3: home crowd? Considering they haven't won that home in this series,

433
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:28,640
Speaker 3: so maybe they got to win one.

434
00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:30,680
Speaker 2: They have been losing a lot in Madison Square go

435
00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:31,120
Speaker 2: a lot?

436
00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, three and five, I guess throughout the playoffs at home?

437
00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:35,840
Speaker 1: Is that right?

438
00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:37,440
Speaker 3: I think that's it.

439
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,720
Speaker 1: They've lost a lot, correct a better road record for

440
00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:42,040
Speaker 1: sure in this one too. It's like again it's just

441
00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:44,080
Speaker 1: the pacers coming in waves, coming in waves. All these

442
00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:46,240
Speaker 1: guys that check in are all contributing. It's always like

443
00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 1: keep your eye on the end of these quarters, right,

444
00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,280
Speaker 1: it's like a twelve five run and the first quarter

445
00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:52,560
Speaker 1: you know they've built the lead up there. Then you

446
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,919
Speaker 1: know they're trailing there in the second quarter. No, they

447
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,440
Speaker 1: rip off a six to zero run. At the end

448
00:19:56,840 --> 00:19:59,160
Speaker 1: they have the lead there now sixty nine to sixty four.

449
00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,600
Speaker 1: Kept that going the third, they're all it's just again

450
00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:03,920
Speaker 1: this idea of like maybe the team takes their foot

451
00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,439
Speaker 1: off the gas, maybe they're a little tired. It's like

452
00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:09,240
Speaker 1: like they're like, all right, let's run, let's go. It's

453
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,480
Speaker 1: it's like this is when they keep striking here. It's

454
00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,960
Speaker 1: like these final couple minutes of these quarters is when

455
00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 1: they get their separation. And then in this one held

456
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:18,600
Speaker 1: on didn't give up that twenty point lead. Pretty impressive

457
00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:24,240
Speaker 1: stuff and again just a masterful Halliburton game. But let's

458
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,719
Speaker 1: get into uh, let's get into some random notes.

459
00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:32,280
Speaker 2: Random good work, Genie.

460
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,720
Speaker 1: I forgot we had the random intro there. I guess

461
00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,040
Speaker 1: we'll start with John Halliburton. How many times did they

462
00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: show him? We had set the line at two and

463
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: a half. Interesting, So so go ahead, why do you

464
00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:48,400
Speaker 1: say interesting? Because when they showed him is the problem here?

465
00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 2: They didn't show them until the game was well in hand. Yeah,

466
00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: I mean you're seeing here, that's Tyre's Halliburton's final line

467
00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:56,840
Speaker 2: thirty two, twelve and fifteen. I think that's the first

468
00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,280
Speaker 2: time we saw Johnny h So. I think they showed

469
00:21:00,359 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 2: him two times before the end of the forty eight

470
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,760
Speaker 2: minute buzzer. I think so too was off, and then

471
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:06,920
Speaker 2: they showed him a lot.

472
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,000
Speaker 1: Yeah the game was over. Yeah, I think I think

473
00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,960
Speaker 1: you're right. By my count, it was two times within

474
00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: the actual forty eight minutes of action, and it came

475
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: much later. I thought, you know, I thought it'd be

476
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,280
Speaker 1: one of their early Ali LaForce stories, but it wasn't.

477
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:23,520
Speaker 1: It was a late Ali LaForce story. And then it

478
00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,119
Speaker 1: helped that his son was doing something historic with the

479
00:21:26,119 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: triple double and zero turnovers. So then we got a

480
00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:32,440
Speaker 1: lot of John but I guess the underhit. He did

481
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 1: bring the towel back with him though, of course. Yeah,

482
00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 1: he just has one Tyrese towel or several. I mean,

483
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:40,920
Speaker 1: why would you change a lucky towel at this point.

484
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:41,720
Speaker 1: I think he's got one.

485
00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it was late that they showed him.

486
00:21:46,040 --> 00:21:47,520
Speaker 3: I was surprised by that and I was a little

487
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:50,600
Speaker 3: surprised by Ali LaForce's second question was about dead It

488
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 3: was about the game for Tyrese Haliburn post game, and

489
00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,040
Speaker 3: then who'd you do it for?

490
00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:54,600
Speaker 2: Oh?

491
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, that guy, that guy up there. Yeah, that was

492
00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 3: an early ask. I thought, know why I'm considering it

493
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,440
Speaker 3: an early act early? I thought, yeah, I thought we'd

494
00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,440
Speaker 3: have him earlier on. But Ali's reports were too important.

495
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:10,080
Speaker 3: Hey trumped John Halliburton, which was a big story coming

496
00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:11,119
Speaker 3: into this gig story.

497
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 1: Well, Ali had to go with the Nie Smith ankle

498
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,520
Speaker 1: injury update early in the game. I wonder if he

499
00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 1: doesn't twist his ankle in Game three? Do we lead

500
00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:22,000
Speaker 1: with John Halliburton in the suite as her first hit?

501
00:22:22,119 --> 00:22:23,360
Speaker 1: I think so, I do, but.

502
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,919
Speaker 2: Maybe because I think her second hit was about Josh

503
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:28,760
Speaker 2: Hart and whether or not it was his idea to

504
00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 2: come off the bench.

505
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:30,479
Speaker 1: True, that's true.

506
00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,359
Speaker 2: He probably wants to move back into the starting lineup

507
00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: because it's not going well on the bench.

508
00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:38,680
Speaker 1: No, it's not. No, it's not five turnovers last night. Yeah,

509
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: he was really rhythm. He was like he was frustrated

510
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 1: on a couple of those. I think he was thinking,

511
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 1: I was he was getting hit Maybe it warranted a call.

512
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,679
Speaker 1: But yeah, he's some bad one. I mean, Brunton had

513
00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,520
Speaker 1: a garbage one to start the second half. To like

514
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:52,880
Speaker 1: credit to the Pacers defense. It's all over the place

515
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 1: and all that, but like there's just some sloppy play.

516
00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 2: Bridges had three bridges were three lazy lazy.

517
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: So anyway, the John Halliburton sightings, I guess hits the

518
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: under the two and a half line I had yesterday.

519
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,520
Speaker 1: How about this Rick Carlisle getting a quick little spit

520
00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 1: in to a cup here. We got the clip early

521
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: in the game. They went over to him. It was

522
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:21,920
Speaker 1: after a challenge and now he's cutting weight. He doesn't

523
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: got he doesn't have tue or anything like that. Didn't

524
00:23:23,960 --> 00:23:28,000
Speaker 1: look like a dirty spit. Just have some salivai you

525
00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 1: want to get out of his mouth. But I mean,

526
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: be careful at that cup right there. My mind immediately

527
00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: went to make a touch of that thing. Oh yeah,

528
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 1: that's pretty gross. Like does he at least right Rick

529
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: spitting cup or something? How about this Spike Lee finally

530
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 1: in attendance there in Indiana. So we're shallow may so

531
00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,960
Speaker 1: we're Ben Stiller, but Spike Lee had a crazy look.

532
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,359
Speaker 1: Fix we'll focus on the hat. I've never seen a

533
00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:00,879
Speaker 1: hat like this that Spike Lee had. Look, it was

534
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 1: behind him. There we got Spike Lee l E. I

535
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: g h uh, there's Lelee Spike. I have to admit

536
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: when I sent this photo this morning, I didn't notice

537
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:16,280
Speaker 1: Lee Ellis in the background. And then JD pointed it

538
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:16,679
Speaker 1: out to me.

539
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm like, what very funny.

540
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, yeah, there is.

541
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 2: Do you think they traded glasses at all?

542
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 3: Wow?

543
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: I might let me try on.

544
00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 1: Well when when JD and the slack said, oh, do

545
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: you do we want the one with Lee? Because I

546
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 1: sent a couple photos of Spike with a hat, I'm like,

547
00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: what the one with Lee Lee elis? And then I thought,

548
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: do you mean Lee Ellis put on Spike Lee's hat?

549
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: So then I went to Lee's Instagram and I'm like, no,

550
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 1: I can't find it. So oh, there he is. He's

551
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 1: in the background, so hat like that before he had

552
00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 1: a crazy did you see his entire look?

553
00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:47,880
Speaker 3: Oh?

554
00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: Man? Yeah, Spike Lee wears garments that no other person

555
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:54,000
Speaker 2: has ever purchased. He's got like that weird jersey of

556
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 2: Jalen Brunson, but it's also a bubble down vest that

557
00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 2: kind of like Christmas trees out or something like that.

558
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 2: Unusual garments. What would you call that hat?

559
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a tough one.

560
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 1: I don't know. It's it has vibes of like a

561
00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,080
Speaker 1: train conductor, I guess a little conductor.

562
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's shaped like a bucket.

563
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 2: Felt.

564
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: I don't know. Oh there's the other. Yeah, yeah, it

565
00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: does look like it's made out of felt.

566
00:25:22,600 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 3: I love it. What a look you wear that I'd

567
00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,800
Speaker 3: wear that hat. I mean, he's just he's just so unique.

568
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: It's like I got to copy that guy. You can

569
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,359
Speaker 3: see where it's stitched on the sides there. But the

570
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,680
Speaker 3: brim is you know, it's kind of like the biker

571
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 3: brim the motor or the cyclist.

572
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a bars blackman sort of modified uh lid there.

573
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: This is definitely an indoor hat. No, it's not.

574
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,920
Speaker 1: Did you see the clip of Pat McAfee getting the

575
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,680
Speaker 1: crowdle hyped up basically saying, Hey, send these celebs home

576
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 1: to New York. Yeah, pretty funny swearing.

577
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: Just just just cussing out Timmy and Spike and Ben

578
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 2: send them home with their ears ringing. You can see

579
00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 2: the pacers bench Obi Top and Thomas Bryant James Johnson laughing, Oh,

580
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 2: I asked he's doing this? That was a great like

581
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: celib get hyped up pro. Yeah, for sure.

582
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,159
Speaker 1: It was speaking of celebs. One of them there. Triple

583
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: H was in Attendants, sitting right there by the Pacers bench.

584
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: It was a great shot. At the end of the game,

585
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 1: Halliburton shaking his hand, thank you, mister Triple H for

586
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:25,320
Speaker 1: coming to the game.

587
00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 3: But well, it was more Triple H saying, hey, can

588
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 3: I shake your hand?

589
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 1: I gotta get going. I felt like he was like,

590
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 1: I gotta go. That's what he was saying. Great game, kid.

591
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,760
Speaker 2: But I saw Halliburton post game was like, yeah, it

592
00:26:35,800 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 2: was awesome that my dad was there. But Triple H

593
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,200
Speaker 2: was there too, and that was pretty fire. He's a

594
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: wrestling fan, man.

595
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,120
Speaker 1: I bring up Triple H though, because I think Josh

596
00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: Hart was inspired by Triple H and Attendants, because he

597
00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: dropped like a leg drop on Ben Matherns's face here,

598
00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,679
Speaker 1: like oh Colgan style here bang. So it was in

599
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,199
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, pretty nasty. It was amazing that he

600
00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:00,840
Speaker 1: was okay from Yeah, Liz Well executed tho H.

601
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: That's actually like that doesn't look like it actually hurts.

602
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:08,399
Speaker 1: I guess didn't drop it on their face.

603
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:19,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, Matherns had definitely hit the floor. Yeah, there's no

604
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 3: doubt because earlier in the playoffs and men Thompson also

605
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 3: went to the floor after a hard hit, but his

606
00:27:25,119 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 3: hair was big enough I think to cushion some of that.

607
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 3: I don't think his head went bouncing off the floor.

608
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,440
Speaker 3: In this one, Mathurn literally hitting wood. That sucks.

609
00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: End of the third court too. I didn't grab the clip,

610
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:40,359
Speaker 1: but Brunson got tangled up with with Mathron really went

611
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 1: like sort of like hip tossed each other to the

612
00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 1: floors right near the end of the third and then

613
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,240
Speaker 1: they started like John or at least brunts. It was

614
00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: really pissed. There was a great camera shot of Mathron

615
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 1: at the free throw line and like Brunson behind them

616
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,400
Speaker 1: like talking, sort of like doing a pretty good job

617
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 1: of ignoring him because Matherne, you know, he's known to

618
00:27:57,400 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 1: get into it as well. I thought shot, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

619
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: he was not happy with.

620
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, Brunson was saying, what was he saying? That's my shot,

621
00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 3: that's my ball, that's my ball, over and over again.

622
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:13,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a brutal fowl on Benedict Mathern's head.

623
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,879
Speaker 2: But a beautiful foul was Karl Anthony Towns grabbing a

624
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 2: hold of Miles Turner's wrist and recreating the creation of

625
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:24,120
Speaker 2: Adam from the Sistine Chapel. I've never seen that kind

626
00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,560
Speaker 2: of foul, just hand around wrist. A lot of people

627
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 2: were saying, how is this a foul on cat? It's

628
00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 2: because he's the one that's grabbing completely here.

629
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, when you see just the photo like this, you're like, Okay,

630
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 1: why would that be a foul on anybody? But yeah,

631
00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: one guy is grabbing here, just the yank arm. I

632
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: don't want you up in that action, so let me

633
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 1: just pull you back.

634
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 2: There was also a time when Karl Anthony Towns was

635
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 2: shooting free throws in the third quarter and you could

636
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 2: hear a PACER's fan me owing.

637
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,000
Speaker 1: I didn't catch that fun.

638
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: The Pacers fans were great last night. They brought out

639
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: all their legends, Darren Collison, George Hill, Lance Stevenson, Antonio Davis,

640
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 2: Danny Grange, Dan Grange.

641
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they brought a ton of them. There was a

642
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,720
Speaker 3: clip of George Hill doing the beer chug in the

643
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 3: front row. He chugged it. Although I think the director said,

644
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,040
Speaker 3: get off him, cut cut. I don't think he wanted

645
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 3: to show an entire beer chug. We're civilized here. Did

646
00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 3: you see what we did in game three? Roy Hibbert

647
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 3: chugged a bottle of water. We stayed there for the

648
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 3: whole time. That's cool, bottle water, cool doing a whole

649
00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: beer thing. Nah, No, we're better than that. We're not

650
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: the Milwaukee Bucks. Remember when they showed a couple Green

651
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:40,200
Speaker 3: Bay Packers. We had Aaron Rodgers versus David David buck Tiari.

652
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 3: That was a back and forth chug fast Nah. Nah,

653
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 3: we're more civilized than them. We don't do that kind

654
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 3: of thing. But it was nice to see. Yeah, Danny Granger,

655
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 3: Travis Best again. He came back again. Lance Stevenson got

656
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: the crowd hype. That was fun. I thought Tibbs was

657
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 3: pretty funny in an audio assists hearing him saying, no jocks,

658
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,880
Speaker 3: no jocks, sprints, sprints, don't leave the ball unguarded.

659
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 2: We're better than that.

660
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 3: You don't usually hear someone saying no.

661
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 1: Job, dogs, no jobs. That's a running podcast coming.

662
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 2: With no jobs.

663
00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 3: Never heard of Sprince sprints directly to Karl Athony Towns,

664
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,120
Speaker 3: I think, but I guess they weren't sprinting hard enough.

665
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: He's right, he was right speaking with the exercise angle.

666
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: What do you think of Shack doing bicep curls with

667
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:30,800
Speaker 1: Underdog as they were going, like showing them up getting

668
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: ready for the halftime show.

669
00:30:32,440 --> 00:30:33,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, we know.

670
00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: Obviously a very strong underdog is tiny. He is short,

671
00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:38,480
Speaker 1: but he's still.

672
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 2: Hard to lift a person. Yeah, and he's like they

673
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: move slight.

674
00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what underdog weighs, but.

675
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 3: I'm guessing he's curling one hundred and thirty pounds.

676
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:48,640
Speaker 1: I think he weighs more than that.

677
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. I's been on the road a lot.

678
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: I'm sure during the playoffs ist some weight.

679
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: I know I did. When we got back from three

680
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 2: days in New York, I just felt like a at

681
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 2: the state PuF marshmallow man terrorizing the city.

682
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 1: Just from all the food.

683
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: And I'm more of not doing anything. Yeah, no exercise, man,

684
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 2: no exercise. I'm not like task getting up early to

685
00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 2: go work out on the road.

686
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:15,360
Speaker 1: True, we weren't even walking around New York that much.

687
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 1: Sort of crappy weather, and we were all within one

688
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 1: sort of like area. We didn't have to walk very far.

689
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, walking in New York. That's when it's raining though.

690
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:27,720
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah I'm walking Here's got soggy shoes for days.

691
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 3: I can still feel it the water in between my toes. Gross.

692
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

693
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: The only other note I have was late in the

694
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 1: third quarter, again Haliburton feeling it. He hit a three

695
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 1: in Bruntson's eye, and then I thought he did sort

696
00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: of he didn't know what to do with the celebration,

697
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: but I thought he gave us a quick sort of

698
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:49,240
Speaker 1: brunts in sort of celebration to mock him, because he

699
00:31:49,320 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: just splashed it in his face. And then when he

700
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 1: was running back on defense, he gets clocked by Bruntson

701
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: and like another pacers like they just bang into him.

702
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: Did you see this? He was like, whoa holy crap,

703
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: Like it was like, I don't think it was on

704
00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 1: purpose from Brunson. I think he got bumped anyway, just

705
00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: like Eller just got clock going back, But he sort

706
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: of gave the Brunson sort of three points of the

707
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: face celebration. So yeah, it was quick.

708
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:13,720
Speaker 2: It was quick.

709
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,400
Speaker 1: They didn't get a great shot of it. But that's

710
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 1: my final note. Any other random.

711
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: Notes, No, I just can't stop thinking what Lee Ellis's

712
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,719
Speaker 2: favorite Spike Lee movie is wait, are you setting up

713
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:24,239
Speaker 2: for a joke? Right?

714
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 3: No?

715
00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:28,000
Speaker 2: No, I mean just probably he got game Yeah, that's

716
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 2: what he would basketball though day.

717
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,480
Speaker 1: But then you never know with Leeley, he could come

718
00:32:31,480 --> 00:32:34,280
Speaker 1: out of nowhere with something what he'd probably go with that.

719
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be my guess if I mean do

720
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 2: the right thing. Obviously a classic. Yeah, new Spike Lee

721
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 2: movie coming out this summer gonna be great with Denzel

722
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:42,240
Speaker 2: highest to lowist.

723
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's why he was not in Game three

724
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 1: in Indianapolis.

725
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: He was promoting stuff.

726
00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: I think they said he went to he went overseas

727
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 1: like Denzel like demanded he go somewhere to promote the Sans. Yeah.

728
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: I think so. Both cans unless they were joking. On

729
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 1: the broadcast. They brought that up. Reggie was saying it.

730
00:32:56,360 --> 00:32:58,600
Speaker 2: No, it makes sense. We also did see a Denzel

731
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 2: Washington He's doing to play in New York or something, right, Uh,

732
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 2: it was like Denzel and Jake Gyllenhall are very few

733
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: walks on the street.

734
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 4: That's done.

735
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,720
Speaker 2: That's done. Yeah, let's tear down Macbeth. I think you're right.

736
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:11,720
Speaker 4: It was Shakespeare for Shure.

737
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 1: Okay, did you look in to go into it, JD,

738
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: when you were in New York. I did, I did,

739
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,840
Speaker 1: and instead you.

740
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 4: Saw Glengarry going Glen Glenn Glary, Fuck Glen Garry, Glenn Ross.

741
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:23,560
Speaker 4: It's not easy to say a.

742
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: Fellow, yes, but Glengary Glenn Ross. You had all the

743
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: stars in it.

744
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, Culkin, culkin, odin, Kirk McKeon and uh burr nice.

745
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so good.

746
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: It was good.

747
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's great.

748
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 2: He's Glengarry leads.

749
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: Stick with this game for a second, Heliburton to circle

750
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: back to him. Thirty two points, twelve boards, fifteen assists,

751
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: four steel, zero turnovers. I was wondering, where is that

752
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: rank that game? That's a hell of a box score.

753
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: Where does it rank in regards to best performances of

754
00:33:57,720 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 1: the playoffs so far? So I fired up Basketball Reference

755
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: this morning to try and figure that out. So JD

756
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 1: hit me with that top five.

757
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:11,520
Speaker 2: Top top five, top five, top by top five.

758
00:34:11,560 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, top five player performances from the postseason so far. Now,

759
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: I had one criteria when I was looking on Basketball Reference.

760
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: Had to come in a win. I decided, all right,

761
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: pretty important, the whole point of this damn thing had

762
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: to come in a w. For the best games, so

763
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: that eliminated. You know, Yolkic had a forty four and

764
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: fifteen game, came in a loss. Donovan Mitchell had a

765
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: forty eight point game, came in a loss to the Pacers.

766
00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: Tatum had a forty two point game versus the Magic

767
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:39,760
Speaker 1: I was in a loss. Lebron had a couple actually

768
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 1: really good box scores in losses to the Wolf, So

769
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: I remove those. These are the top five playoff performances

770
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,319
Speaker 1: in a win and a rankedom by game score. Nothing

771
00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: subjective here. I wanted to see where does Halliburton's rank

772
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,279
Speaker 1: game score For those that don't know, that's a rough

773
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,240
Speaker 1: measure of a player's productivity for a single game. Hollinger

774
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,279
Speaker 1: came up with it. It's taking into account sort of

775
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 1: the entire box score right in terms of your efficiency

776
00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:03,840
Speaker 1: and not turning the ball over in every all the

777
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: other stats. So I was shocked Haliburton's game four last

778
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 1: night versus the Knicks, number five on the list, that

779
00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: thirty two twelve and fifteen game with zero turnovers and

780
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 1: the four steals a thirty six point four game score,

781
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: and I was like, wow, there were four better performances

782
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,480
Speaker 1: in regards to that stat Yes, there were, let's go

783
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: through them. Jokich Game four versus the Clippers, just just

784
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: beat Haliburton thirty six point seven game score, thirty six points,

785
00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:35,839
Speaker 1: twenty one rebounds, eight assists, two steals, one block, two turnovers.

786
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 1: That was the game that tied that series to two

787
00:35:39,040 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: versus the Clips.

788
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 2: I was like.

789
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: Okay, sticking with that series. Kawhi Leonards Game two in

790
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: that series versus the Nuggets, thirty seven point four game

791
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: score for Kawhi, this one all was about his efficiency.

792
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,440
Speaker 1: He scored thirty nine points, shooting fifteen to nineteen from

793
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,760
Speaker 1: the floor, five to five at the line. He sprinkled

794
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: in five assists, three boards, some defensive numbers. He was

795
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 1: a plus six in that game. That was a one

796
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: possession game. That was a one oh five, one oh

797
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: two win for the clips That one that makes sense

798
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: because it's just so efficient fifteen to nineteen. That was

799
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: like when it was like, ooh, that's looking like raptors.

800
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 1: Kawhi there from the twenty nineteen championship run. If you

801
00:36:18,120 --> 00:36:22,120
Speaker 1: remember that, game number two on the list, Anthony Edwards

802
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:26,320
Speaker 1: Game four versus the Lakers, thirty seven point nine game score.

803
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: He scored forty three points. He had twenty four in

804
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,240
Speaker 1: the second half. He did a lot of his damage

805
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,280
Speaker 1: at the free throw line. He went fourteen to seventeen

806
00:36:33,320 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: in that game, but he hit five threes from deep.

807
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 1: He had nine boards for of them on the offensive glass,

808
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: six assists and only one turnover. And that was in

809
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: the game that really sort of put away the series

810
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 1: for Anther in Game four to put them up three

811
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: to one. But the number one playoff performance according to

812
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 1: game Score this postseason Jamal Murray's Game five versus the Clippers.

813
00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,279
Speaker 1: How wild is this list? Three of these games, three

814
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: of these performances in that series. Jamal Murray Game five

815
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: versus the Clips, thirty nine point nine game score, forty

816
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 1: three points on just one free throw attempted. He went

817
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: one to one at the free throw line, seventeen to

818
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,760
Speaker 1: twenty six from the floor, eight to fourteen from deep,

819
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: five boards, seven assists, three steals, one block, and only

820
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 1: one turnover for Kitchener's finest in that Game five that

821
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 1: put them up three to two in the series. So yeah,

822
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,080
Speaker 1: there you go. Those are the best ones according to

823
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: game Score. Now a couple honorable mentions. Tatum had a

824
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: great series clinching Game five versus the Magic Monster game

825
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: from him. Brunson had a thirty nine to twelve Game

826
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: four versus the Celtics in the second round. That was

827
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 1: the game that Tatum actually got injured. Huge game from Brunson.

828
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 1: Gary Trent Junior and Buddy Heald both had games this

829
00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: postseason where they hit nine three pointers each. You know,

830
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: they make sort of the short list here. And then

831
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 1: my final note, Sga has three of the top thirteen

832
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:00,360
Speaker 1: best game scores that came in a win this post season.

833
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: You know, I think he's a little lower on these.

834
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 1: I thought he would be in one of these top fives,

835
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: but you know, maybe some of the efficiency numbers. His

836
00:38:06,760 --> 00:38:08,920
Speaker 1: best was probably Game two versus the Wolves here in

837
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 1: the West Finals. Really strong efficiency in that game. He

838
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: only had one turnover as well to eight assists. So

839
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: otherwise he's had a lot of good performances, as a

840
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 1: lot of these guys have. When you add the losses,

841
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: I mean there's a lot of Yokich in the monster

842
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: numbers he put up.

843
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,880
Speaker 2: I think he also had like a forty two to

844
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: twenty two he did he did that was a good one. Yeah,

845
00:38:25,239 --> 00:38:27,360
Speaker 2: I'd also maybe throw Aaron Nee Smith Game one against

846
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 2: the Nicks. Yeah yeah, I mean yeah, save the game

847
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 2: for him. Yeah.

848
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: Again, this was this was not subjective. This was just

849
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: like game score games, score gameshore, let's see what the

850
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: numbers say. Again, I thought Halliburt would be higher.

851
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: But you're right.

852
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: There are other performances where you're like, that's huge, that

853
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: like changed the series. Yes, I mean it's a completely

854
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:47,080
Speaker 1: different series if the Knicks just win that gay Yeah,

855
00:38:47,120 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: so huge one.

856
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: A lot of crying Knicks fans while we were in

857
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: New York in a bar because of Aaron Ne Smith.

858
00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 1: Really still crazy. I keep thinking about those people that left.

859
00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, we got it game one, let's go

860
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:03,319
Speaker 1: party boys, get your jackets. I already paid the bill,

861
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 1: let's go. There's the ninety seconds left or two minutes.

862
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: We're up huge, let's rock see. And then they found out,

863
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 1: I don't know, maybe on their phones or maybe in

864
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: the morning, who knows, but there you go. Task. I'm

865
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 1: gonna turn to you now because you've got some numbers.

866
00:39:18,040 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: When it comes to like the all rookie teams that

867
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: were announced.

868
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,920
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, they're announced last week. The rookie teams,

869
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 3: those two standard teams that come out, and when the

870
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,120
Speaker 3: twenty four to twenty five teams were announced, Skeetze brought

871
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,480
Speaker 3: up the question how many All Star Games will these

872
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: guys make? Well, here are the teams. Just there's a

873
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: reminder of the first team spawn Castle, zach Edy, Zacharysache,

874
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 3: Alex Sar and Jalen Wells, and the second team mates Buzzellis,

875
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:49,800
Speaker 3: Bob Carrington, Donovan Klingen, Eve me See and khalil Ware.

876
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 3: We kind of set a line at four point five

877
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 3: All Star appearances for their career. I think we're primarily

878
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: looking at the first team. There were some questions do

879
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:07,680
Speaker 3: players from the second All Rookie team make All Star Games? Well,

880
00:40:07,840 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 3: we went through the history to check it out. Well,

881
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 3: are they MVPs? Do they come from the second All

882
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:18,480
Speaker 3: Rookie team? You'll be surprised. How many All Star appearances

883
00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 3: do you know? Do the good All Rookie teams get?

884
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 3: How many do the bad ones get? What's the range? Here?

885
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 3: Was there a year where all rookies made zero All

886
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:29,239
Speaker 3: Star appearances? It's it's possible. We'll see about that. Our

887
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,839
Speaker 3: man Dan Lonzara, Dan Land, he goes by, he did

888
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 3: the research. He sent it in he said, this is

889
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: what I found from two thousand to twenty twenty, So

890
00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:43,400
Speaker 3: he did twenty one years of research. Now I'll just

891
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:45,400
Speaker 3: say this note before we get into them. Fifteen of

892
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 3: the twenty one years had double digits and All Star

893
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 3: appearances for all rookie first team members. So that's a majure.

894
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 3: That's a big, big number. But let's let's get through them.

895
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,359
Speaker 3: We'll go through a couple of different ways here. At first,

896
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 3: let's start with the good one. The team that had

897
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 3: fifty to fifty excuse me, fifty five All Star appearances,

898
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:06,640
Speaker 3: not fifty to fifty fifty five All Star appearances for

899
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:10,040
Speaker 3: the first team. That's what you would can would you

900
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,680
Speaker 3: think about it? The last twenty one years, it's probably

901
00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 3: the Lebron draft. It is fifty five All Star games.

902
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,720
Speaker 3: Lebron had twenty one, Wade at thirteen, Bosh had eleven,

903
00:41:19,239 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: Carmel Anthony had ten, Kirk Heinrich he didn't make an

904
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 3: All Star team, but the second team got one. Josh

905
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:27,400
Speaker 3: Howard he got one All Star appearance.

906
00:41:27,520 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 2: Howard wow. Lesly, that's crazy because when you look at

907
00:41:30,640 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 2: this graph, if it was just Lebron James. He would

908
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 2: have the second most All Star appearances of any first

909
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 2: team full all rookie.

910
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 1: Quite the anomaly, right he.

911
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:43,279
Speaker 2: Has twenty one All Star appearances and twenty thirteen right

912
00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:44,919
Speaker 2: there has twenty twenty two.

913
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 3: Long, Yeah, that was the second highest. Twenty thirteen. Twelve

914
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: thirteen was Anthony Davis with ten, Damian Lillard with nine,

915
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 3: Bradley Beal with three, Dion Waiters, and Harrison Barnes. They

916
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 3: didn't make it, although he got a second team appearance.

917
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 3: Andre Drummonds had a cup All Star appearances, and we'll

918
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 3: wrap out the top five teams here. Eleven twelve was

919
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: the third place one, but they got some second teamers

920
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 3: in there, so they get the head nod Over seven

921
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 3: to oh eight. Eleven to twelve had twenty All Star games,

922
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 3: Kyrie nine, Kawhi six, Clay five, so you get more

923
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 3: of those. I'm sure to wrap up the team. Ricky Rubio,

924
00:42:22,640 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 3: Kenneth Reid and somehow, Imon Schumpert and Brandon Knight all

925
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,080
Speaker 3: made the All First Team just because of a tie

926
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 3: in voting, and Brandon Knight he.

927
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,360
Speaker 2: Almost made an All Star game. It got kind of close.

928
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 3: We had we were talking in the NBA TV Days

929
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 3: during the starters. Brandon Knight, he was in Milwaukee Buck

930
00:42:41,080 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 3: he was riding with Giannis. Yeah, it was a debate.

931
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:47,560
Speaker 3: Brandon Knight almost made second team. Isaiah Thomas had two

932
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 3: All Star appearances. Oh seven oh eight twenty All Star Games.

933
00:42:51,200 --> 00:42:54,320
Speaker 3: This is an interesting one because it's heavy. Kevin Durant,

934
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 3: Durant fifteen, Horford five that wraps it up. Oh, Jeff Green,

935
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: Luis Scola, al Thornton did not make it. Horton a

936
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 3: second team, had none, but they had a great name.

937
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:12,160
Speaker 3: Jamrio Moon enter wrap up the top five. Fifteen sixteen

938
00:43:12,239 --> 00:43:14,799
Speaker 3: got seventeen All Star appearances. That are just gonna go

939
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 3: up because Jokic has seven, Kat has five, Booker has four,

940
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 3: Porzingis has won. Persings could be a one and done

941
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:27,120
Speaker 3: guy maybe probably probably, and Julia locofor he had zero.

942
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 3: Second team Dangel Russell he got one, all right, So

943
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:32,840
Speaker 3: let's get to the bad ones. Over the last twenty

944
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 3: one years, six had single digits on their first team.

945
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 3: So the first team from the sixteen seventeen year just

946
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 3: had seven All Star Games and it's all Embiid. Embiid

947
00:43:43,640 --> 00:43:48,240
Speaker 3: had seven, that's it. He missed his first two seasons.

948
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 3: Then he had thirty one games where he didn't make

949
00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:52,839
Speaker 3: it the first three seasons of his career, then seven

950
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 3: straight All Star games. So just a unique career. See

951
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 3: if he makes some more. Dario sarch Buddy Healed, Willie

952
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 3: hernan Gomez and Malcolm Brogden did not make All Star Games,

953
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: although Malcolm Brogden did win a six man.

954
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: In the year. Hernan Gomez was first team All Rookie. Yeah,

955
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:12,120
Speaker 2: that's that's a bad draft, because you're saying and Beide

956
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 2: made it right, playing thirty one games in his third season. Yeah,

957
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:17,200
Speaker 2: made first team All Rookie.

958
00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,120
Speaker 3: Yeah he was.

959
00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 2: Uh, that's a bad draft. Yeah, that is a brutal draft.

960
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 3: I guess it's it's the draft from you know, two

961
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 3: years prior, because he was drafted earlier or no, I

962
00:44:26,480 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 3: shouldn't say that. He was just lumped in. You're right, right,

963
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 3: he was the guy. You're right, Jalen.

964
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: He sat out the years.

965
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:35,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, the second team. For some reason, the second team

966
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 3: that year was way more stacked. I don't remember why

967
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 3: the voting this went went this way, but Jalen Brown,

968
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 3: he was on the second team. Brandon Ingram was on

969
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 3: the second team and Jamal Murray was on the second team,

970
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 3: who hasn't made an All Star Game, but Brown's made

971
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: for Ingram has made one. Yeah, so yeah, I don't know.

972
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,640
Speaker 3: Go back to the voting. Why did that happen? Why

973
00:44:55,760 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: were Sarrige healed, Willie Hernan Gomez voted over Jalen Brown

974
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 3: and Brandon Ingram.

975
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,240
Speaker 1: That is odd?

976
00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,480
Speaker 2: Was he nick then he's first year?

977
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 3: I think Kim he might have been anyway.

978
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:14,320
Speaker 2: Twenty thirteen draft I think is also kind of funny

979
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 2: because it's Giannis is the fifteenth pick but he made

980
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: second team, and Rudy Gobert is the twenty seventh pick,

981
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 2: didn't make it either of the All Rookie teams, so

982
00:45:21,800 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 2: their number is very very low.

983
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

984
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, And just to go back, Yeah, Willie Herhangomez, he

985
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: averaged eight and seven for the Knicks, played a lot

986
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: of games, started some. Yeah, I got a Knicks bump.

987
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: I guess that's why he made first team and Daniel

988
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: Brown and Ingram and Murray better careers obviously, but yeah,

989
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: didn't have like lights out rookie seasons from right members.

990
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 3: So I guess. So yeah, just mentioned this next team

991
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 3: here in two thousand, Going way back, Dan Lamb doing

992
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 3: the research way back, there's six All Star games in

993
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 3: two thousand. This is an interesting one because the second

994
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:56,040
Speaker 3: team nearly as many as the first. First team. Steve

995
00:45:56,080 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 3: Francis had three, Alton Brandon had two All Star appearances,

996
00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 3: Wally Zerbiak had won, Andre Miller had zero. Lamar Odom

997
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: had zero, although he just went to Trump's crypto dinner,

998
00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 3: so it's got lots of money going on. I guess

999
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: he he did all right, A second team nearly as

1000
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: many as the first. As I said, five All Star

1001
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,439
Speaker 3: games from Sean Marrion had four and met a World

1002
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,799
Speaker 3: Peace on the second team he had won as well.

1003
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,839
Speaker 3: Let's get to the four all rookie teams in two

1004
00:46:20,840 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 3: thousand that have had under four and a half total

1005
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 3: All Star appearances. Now this one is going to change.

1006
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 3: I assume this is the most recent one. In twenty twenty,

1007
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 3: we got four All Star appearances for Zion and John

1008
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:39,440
Speaker 3: Morant combined. You assume that that's gonna go up Zion,

1009
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 3: maybe not Zion.

1010
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:43,240
Speaker 2: I don't assume it as hard as I used to assume.

1011
00:46:43,719 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah, Morant more likely than Zion, I assume, but

1012
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 3: who knows. Ye, Yeah, Kendrick Nunn, Eric Pascal, and Brandon

1013
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,399
Speaker 3: Clark round out the first game.

1014
00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 2: I don't think those three are going to make anymore.

1015
00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 3: Wow, I don't think so. Unless Kendrick Nunn makes the

1016
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: penathaniaquos heuro League. That's where he's playing. I think so.

1017
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 3: I think he's definitely playing Greece Tyler Heroes on the

1018
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 3: second team. He made one, so they kind of technically

1019
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:16,400
Speaker 3: have five. Anyway, Moving on, only two All Star appearances

1020
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 3: for a first team in that one that you mentioned,

1021
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 3: Trey that thirteen drafts, so thirteen fourteen, Victor Oladipo had two,

1022
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,040
Speaker 3: then none from the rest of the first All Star

1023
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 3: or the first All Rookie team. I should say Michael

1024
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 3: Carter Williams wins Rookie of the Year, but he had

1025
00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 3: zero All Star appearances. Trey Burke, Tim Hardaway Junior, and

1026
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:38,320
Speaker 3: Mason plum Lee round out the first team, while Janombo

1027
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 3: I was on the second team. Nine All Star appearances

1028
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:45,239
Speaker 3: for that guy. So maybe we're gonna have somebody on

1029
00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 3: this second team, like I'm Mattes Buzzelli's turned against the Google.

1030
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 3: Probably not.

1031
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:50,719
Speaker 1: I love to hear that.

1032
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,200
Speaker 2: Maybe an MVP NBA champion.

1033
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,560
Speaker 3: Hall of Famer. I love it fourteen to fifteen.

1034
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: Growing, yeah, exactly, put some muscles on. We gotta get

1035
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,080
Speaker 2: him into here and get some tastes greeky, freaky yogurt.

1036
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,160
Speaker 3: Work that up man worked out pro Teina up fourteen

1037
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,479
Speaker 3: to fifteen. It's an interesting one because there was only

1038
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,920
Speaker 3: one All Star appearance for that first team. That was

1039
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:17,080
Speaker 3: the Andrew Wiggins draft in fourteen, nikolamiritych Nerleans Noel, Alfred Payton,

1040
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 3: Jordan Clarkson. They didn't make one, only Andrew Wiggins with

1041
00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,680
Speaker 3: that one All Star appearance, although the second team has

1042
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 3: Zach Lavine on it who has two All Star appearances.

1043
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,840
Speaker 2: And Jokic was drafted that season in twenty fourteen, but

1044
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 2: he didn't come over until his second year and then

1045
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,640
Speaker 2: made first team All Rookie in fifteen sixteen, but he

1046
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 2: wasn't a rookie that season.

1047
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: Yes, that's a good one. And another All Rookie team

1048
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 3: that just had one All Star appearance from both teams,

1049
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:48,120
Speaker 3: it's oh one. Kenyan Martin had one All Star appearance,

1050
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 3: Mike Miller won Rookie of the Year and six Man

1051
00:48:50,280 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 3: of the Year once, but zero All Star appearances. Mark Jackson,

1052
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 3: Darius Miles, and Morris Peterson round out the first team.

1053
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 3: Second team at zero All Star appearances.

1054
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:06,200
Speaker 2: Not this Mark Jackson, No big Mark Jackson, unstoppable baby Mama,

1055
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 2: there goes that man, Mark Jackson.

1056
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:08,920
Speaker 1: It was the other Mark Jackson.

1057
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, Mark Jackson's still working on Philadelphia seventy six ers broadcast.

1058
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 3: Sometimes I know it's the big guy because they go

1059
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 3: to the studio and he's there standing up. They do

1060
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: the stand up. Okay, he's monster beside another guy who's

1061
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 3: very small, So I know it's the big guy. Anyway,

1062
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:30,399
Speaker 3: here's a couple interesting All Rookie teams where the there's

1063
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 3: MVPs on the second teams. Two thousand and nine twenty ten.

1064
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 3: That's Steph Curry's eleven All Star appearances. He finished on

1065
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 3: the first All Rookie team along with Darren Colson, Taj Gibson,

1066
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 3: Brandon Jennings, and Tyreek Kevin who one rookie the year

1067
00:49:48,320 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 3: but never appeared in an All Star Game. So that's

1068
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 3: all Curry with eleven All Star appearances. Then on the

1069
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 3: second team in twenty ten, James Harden eleven All Star

1070
00:49:57,600 --> 00:50:01,200
Speaker 3: appearances MVP. You know, seventy five The Anniversary team all that.

1071
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 3: So you got an MVP on the second team, same

1072
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 3: thing happened in twenty nineteen. Recently, first team, the numbers

1073
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:09,000
Speaker 3: are only going to get higher because that was a

1074
00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 3: Luca Trey, Jared Jackson junior five, four and two All

1075
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 3: Star appearances for those guys, along with DeAndre Ayton and

1076
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,279
Speaker 3: Marvin Bagley. Then you got Shay coming from the second team,

1077
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:21,439
Speaker 3: coming from the rope. Yeah, he made the second team

1078
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,759
Speaker 3: with the Clippers. He's got three All Star appearances and

1079
00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:24,480
Speaker 3: a freaking MVP.

1080
00:50:25,239 --> 00:50:27,480
Speaker 2: Johnson didn't make either of the teams. He's in that

1081
00:50:27,560 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 2: draft as well, multiple time All Star.

1082
00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, he did not. Yeah, that second team, it's interesting

1083
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:38,480
Speaker 3: because it's Shay, Colin Sexton, Landry Shamant, Mitchell Robinson, lots

1084
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:39,480
Speaker 3: of guys still playing, all the.

1085
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: Guys that are playing in the same series on his team.

1086
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Kevin Hurder rounds up that second time redlver

1087
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 3: And there's another eight all rookie teams. I didn't mention

1088
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 3: that number. I mean, we can go through if you

1089
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,000
Speaker 3: want to hear some names. But they finished, you know,

1090
00:50:56,040 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 3: way higher than this four and a half All Star

1091
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:02,320
Speaker 3: appearance number that were throwing out on these these ten guys.

1092
00:51:02,360 --> 00:51:03,879
Speaker 1: Well, that's what I was going to ask, like, how

1093
00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:06,279
Speaker 1: did how do we feel about how we came up

1094
00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: with four and a half? Like is it sounds like

1095
00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:12,120
Speaker 1: it's not wasn't bad? Like a decent line to say

1096
00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:14,479
Speaker 1: it at with what you're giving. Obviously some go under,

1097
00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,360
Speaker 1: some of course go over. Depends on if you hit

1098
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,480
Speaker 1: a superstar or not or two.

1099
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's not a mean Yeah. After doing the analysis

1100
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 3: of the last twenty one years, only four here that

1101
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 3: are under four and a half in terms of All

1102
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: Star appearance. It's only four on twour.

1103
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: But you know what conna happen.

1104
00:51:29,239 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 3: It's it's all about these ten guys. It's possible.

1105
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,120
Speaker 1: I w I did I am taking the over four

1106
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 1: and a half If that's our line for these current

1107
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,720
Speaker 1: two All Rookie teams, the totality of their All.

1108
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:43,480
Speaker 2: Star appearances, we're saying first or second.

1109
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm saying I'm sad question for sure, that's what we're

1110
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 1: originally saying. But I know we're just doing the numbers

1111
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:48,359
Speaker 1: of the first team.

1112
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:51,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm doing that'll be yeah. Yeah, you don't get

1113
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 3: a lot from the second team, but they can give

1114
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 3: you a little boost, that's for sure. I mean, Mattus bizialis,

1115
00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:00,320
Speaker 3: Donovan Klingon is definitely possible. I think Donovan Klinton's definitely

1116
00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:01,000
Speaker 3: a possibility.

1117
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,240
Speaker 1: See an All Star maybe in his future.

1118
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 3: Not a ton though, more so mors A coming from

1119
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,960
Speaker 3: that first team of Sefan Castle, Zach Edy, Zachary, Resa Chet,

1120
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,800
Speaker 3: alex Aar Jalen Wills. But where do you think of

1121
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 3: trade that You're.

1122
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 2: I'm feeling good with the under Yeah, maybe Castle if

1123
00:52:19,320 --> 00:52:21,840
Speaker 2: the Spurs are really good and he somehow ends up

1124
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 2: as the second guy, which is seeming less likely now

1125
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 2: that they got the number two pick and traded for

1126
00:52:26,120 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 2: Daron Fox. Yeah, I think Under is good. Like I mean,

1127
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,640
Speaker 2: the Blazers are gonna have to rise quite a bit

1128
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:35,400
Speaker 2: with Klingon as the main reason for him to be

1129
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:37,279
Speaker 2: the guy. Zach Edy, I don't think is an All star.

1130
00:52:37,760 --> 00:52:40,520
Speaker 2: Resache the Rep or the Hawks would have to completely

1131
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 2: change the way they've played for the past twenty years

1132
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 2: and start winning some games for him to be the guy.

1133
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:48,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, or he joins another team, or he's the complimentary guy.

1134
00:52:48,520 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 1: To me, it's three guys. It's Castle, Recessche and it's

1135
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: Bouzellos and I'm like, can we get to five total

1136
00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:57,600
Speaker 1: from those two squads? But you need Castle to basically

1137
00:52:57,600 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: pop off and be like a six time All Star

1138
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:01,160
Speaker 1: or something like that, then you're good.

1139
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:01,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1140
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:04,839
Speaker 3: Yeah. But you know there's some like I'm saying some

1141
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 3: random names from the last twenty one years. You just

1142
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: see a guy come out of nowhere that we're not

1143
00:53:08,760 --> 00:53:13,839
Speaker 3: seeing right now. You know that made second teams for

1144
00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:17,200
Speaker 3: some reason. I mean Bob Carrington, who knows you know.

1145
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,520
Speaker 2: Well, how about this for a take, Nikolatopic will make

1146
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 2: more All Star teams than both the first and second

1147
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:24,040
Speaker 2: team combined.

1148
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 1: I'll take that bet.

1149
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: I don't think so one he would make one, is

1150
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 2: my guess.

1151
00:53:32,440 --> 00:53:35,080
Speaker 1: All right, what a breakdown? Damn land Man crunching the numbers.

1152
00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 1: You want to keep going on those other teams or.

1153
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 3: I mean, definitely could. There's some randos that are interesting.

1154
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:44,279
Speaker 3: I always find the ones that guys didn't make an

1155
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 3: All Star appearance, but they made an All NBA appearance,

1156
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 3: Like Andrew Bogan on the six team, finished on the

1157
00:53:50,320 --> 00:53:52,600
Speaker 3: first team with Chris Paul, Darren Williams made all the

1158
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 3: All Star appearances. Boga didn't get one, but he made

1159
00:53:56,400 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 3: an All NBA team, Danny Granger on the second team,

1160
00:53:58,920 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 3: just seeing in Indiana, or random ones like the twenty

1161
00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 3: eleven All Rookie teams. Great guys on the first team,

1162
00:54:05,960 --> 00:54:08,360
Speaker 3: Blake Griffin, John Wall, the Marcus Cousins, and then you

1163
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 3: get a Paul George on a second team. Nine All

1164
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 3: Star appearances for that guy. Maybe we get one of those.

1165
00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 3: Maybe we get one of those. I always I was

1166
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,799
Speaker 3: looking to see if there is a a second team

1167
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:22,240
Speaker 3: that had more All Star appearances than the first team. Yeah,

1168
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,160
Speaker 3: it didn't happen. It didn't happen.

1169
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:25,360
Speaker 1: Okay, that's something.

1170
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,880
Speaker 3: They got close. Like Kevin Love Marcus sol were on

1171
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,319
Speaker 3: a second team. They had eight between them. But they're

1172
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 3: on the same same draft year as Westbrook and Derreck Rose.

1173
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:34,680
Speaker 3: So that ain't gonna happen.

1174
00:54:34,680 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: What about twenty fourteen, as in the twenty thirteen fourteen draft,

1175
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,560
Speaker 2: Becauseiannis is the second team.

1176
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,120
Speaker 3: That's a good question. Oh, yeah, you're right, that happened.

1177
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that did because he's got them, he was on

1178
00:54:45,480 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 2: that Bozellis path. That yeah, makes sense to me. Draymond

1179
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:49,680
Speaker 2: didn't make an All Rookie team.

1180
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:50,279
Speaker 3: I guess not.

1181
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer did not.

1182
00:54:52,280 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 3: I didn't play much in his rookie year, right, Yeah,

1183
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 3: so that's that. Joe Johnson was another good one. Seven

1184
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 3: All Star appearances on a second team. Almost didn't make

1185
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,400
Speaker 3: the All Rookie second team. He was tied for the

1186
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,799
Speaker 3: final spot in voting with Vladimir Radmanovich. You don't see

1187
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 3: that too often. Wow.

1188
00:55:08,160 --> 00:55:09,720
Speaker 2: Wait, so he was tied, you said.

1189
00:55:09,719 --> 00:55:11,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was tied in terms of voting. He barely

1190
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,480
Speaker 3: made the second team, barely made the second team. But

1191
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 3: he put them both on though. They put them both.

1192
00:55:15,200 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: Okay, good. Yeah, because once you're looking through it and

1193
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,080
Speaker 2: you see that there were seven players on that first

1194
00:55:19,080 --> 00:55:21,480
Speaker 2: team after the twenty eleven draft, that's crazy.

1195
00:55:21,920 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 1: They're like, who cares. It's like they're tied.

1196
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 2: Who cares? Tied? Who cares? Literally, who cares?

1197
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,080
Speaker 1: Generally with second teams rookies, it's like who cares?

1198
00:55:30,160 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Man, some of us pick Brandon Knight as an

1199
00:55:32,080 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 3: All Star.

1200
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:33,520
Speaker 1: I don't remember this.

1201
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,759
Speaker 3: He had a good year. What year he was It

1202
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 3: was with the Milwaukee Bucks. So give me some numbers there.

1203
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:40,560
Speaker 1: I remember.

1204
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,759
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, he played. He played a season a half

1205
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: with the Bucks. He averaged eighteen a game during the

1206
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 2: thirteen fourteen, so okay, I guess he would.

1207
00:55:47,560 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 3: Be uh at least an arm one.

1208
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 2: They won fifteen games that season, so they were bad.

1209
00:55:54,360 --> 00:55:57,640
Speaker 3: Thirteen fourteen they won fifteen games. Yeah, or maybe it

1210
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 3: was then.

1211
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: They drafted Giannis one year, then they drafted Parker after

1212
00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: They don't remember this well, I don't think he was

1213
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:03,120
Speaker 2: ever close.

1214
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:05,360
Speaker 3: Well, the next year, when it was the fourteen to

1215
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,200
Speaker 3: fifteen year, he played fifty games for them, So he

1216
00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 3: played till the All Star Game. Yeah, it weg seventeen

1217
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 3: point eight.

1218
00:56:10,600 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes maybe more sense to be that year.

1219
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 1: That's a fun lit.

1220
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:16,680
Speaker 3: They won more games that year, they finished five hundred,

1221
00:56:18,080 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 3: and there was, you know, some weird guard positions that

1222
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 3: got All Star Game. It was a weird types of

1223
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,319
Speaker 3: players that got voted to the All Star Game.

1224
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: That would be a fun list, guys that we had

1225
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: debates about whether they would be an All Star over

1226
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 1: our last twenty years, because when that comes to mind,

1227
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:39,520
Speaker 1: Aaron Aflalo, I remember that year, we were like, I

1228
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,279
Speaker 1: don't know, I think it follows at All Star. We

1229
00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: had a big debate about that. That would be a

1230
00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: funny list, especially guys that didn't ultimately make it, but

1231
00:56:46,200 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: we were like stumping for them. That was bat for them.

1232
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, that fifteen year, that was the year we got

1233
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,680
Speaker 3: four Atlanta Hawks. So Kyle Korov made it and we're

1234
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 3: talking guards. Jeff Tigue made it. So I think Brandon

1235
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,320
Speaker 3: and I was a debate.

1236
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: We were like, we don't need that many Hawks.

1237
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:03,640
Speaker 3: John Wall and Kyle Lowry started.

1238
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 1: I thought of another one that we uh that honestly

1239
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:08,320
Speaker 1: did have a good like first half of the season.

1240
00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 1: It sounds insane, you're gonna be like, what, no way,

1241
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,640
Speaker 1: Andrea Barniani. Yeah, we did a whole video about it.

1242
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,719
Speaker 1: But he did have a good year there in the Raptors,

1243
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: so it was like he deserves to be they'll start game,

1244
00:57:17,760 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: all right, great Land Stevenson one year.

1245
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I was during the thirteen fourteen year

1246
00:57:21,640 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 2: he didn't get voted All Star Game and it kind

1247
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,160
Speaker 2: of like sent their season into a tailspin because he

1248
00:57:26,200 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 2: started trying to play like he was an All Star.

1249
00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 2: After that, that was the end of that era of

1250
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: the Pacers him not making the All Star team.

1251
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,919
Speaker 3: M hmm. Yeah. The Barniini All Rookie teams are sort

1252
00:57:34,960 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 3: of interesting because this is seven led by two Portland Trailblazers,

1253
00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:43,160
Speaker 3: Marcus Soldiers and Brandon Roy. And then you had two

1254
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,960
Speaker 3: Raptors also on the first team, and Andrei and Jorge

1255
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 3: Garbajosa first team. Yeah. Yeah, they had six guys on

1256
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: that rookie the first team. Weird, weird year. But to

1257
00:57:55,640 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 3: see two guys from two different teams, you don't see

1258
00:57:59,480 --> 00:58:02,560
Speaker 3: that very often. And then you had a Rondo and

1259
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: a Millsap on the second team. So they had lots

1260
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,720
Speaker 3: of All Stars good year.

1261
00:58:08,080 --> 00:58:10,200
Speaker 1: Couldn't add to the list just getting one.

1262
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 3: That was close. It's sort of like Kristaps Porzingis esque.

1263
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 3: You know. He started that season really really well, like

1264
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 3: Kristaps started his season really well in New York. That

1265
00:58:19,360 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 3: was his All Star appearance. Then he got hurt. Barnani

1266
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 3: also got hurt.

1267
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: Could have been it, That could have been it.

1268
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: We came out ahead of his time, man time. It

1269
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,280
Speaker 1: was I mean, I know, I'm laughing, but he was.

1270
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:36,280
Speaker 1: He was a seventh footer that could actually shoot and

1271
00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: play a little bit of defense. He would you would

1272
00:58:38,160 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 1: be better in today's Well, yeah, he's a big, big

1273
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: big he's a big dude.

1274
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:46,640
Speaker 2: Who was the name that you were like most delighted

1275
00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 2: to see when you were.

1276
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,000
Speaker 3: Looking really fun, really fun.

1277
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean it's a good one for sure.

1278
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 3: I mean it's fun to see a Mecca again. Great

1279
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:01,080
Speaker 3: guy who won Rookie of the Year, never made an

1280
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Speaker 3: All Star Game, unfortunately. It's fun name though. Al Jefferson, Okay,

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Speaker 3: and I'm just gonna go through names. Al Jefferson an

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Speaker 3: All NBA appearance, but never an All Star. One of

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Speaker 3: those guys. That's about it in terms of names.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I was. I was kind of shocked to see. Honestly,

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Speaker 2: when I saw the twenty nineteen All Rookie first team

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Speaker 2: and eighton and Marvin Bagley made that was that was

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Speaker 2: a surprise to me.

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Speaker 3: Bagley got there especially. I will say the eighteen team

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Speaker 3: is interesting. Tatum, Donovan, Mitchell, Ben Simmons, marking in, marking in.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I kind of just forgot about that, that

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Speaker 3: he was a good rookie, I guess.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I felt like he came later the second year guy too,

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Speaker 3: because he stayed Yeah, well no, because he sat out

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Speaker 3: his first year I sat out. And then Kuzma. That

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Speaker 3: was a weird one as a fifth guy on that team.

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Speaker 3: Just a weird team.

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Speaker 1: Weird team, great stuff, dan Land, thanks for shout out.

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Speaker 2: To Dan Land, the man, Dan Lann and Dan Land.

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Speaker 1: All right, well, tonight we got a game four, five five,

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Speaker 1: game five, Yeah, three to one. For the thunder point

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Speaker 1: is they can make their first excuse me second ever

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Speaker 1: trip to the finals with a win tonight, wrap it

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Speaker 1: up in five. You believe that is going to be

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Speaker 1: the case team record. This will be their first time

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Speaker 1: back to the NBA Finals since twenty twelve if they

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Speaker 1: can do it. But maybe maybe Aunt comes out with

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Speaker 1: some fire tonight, try and get that back to Maybe

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Speaker 1: he does.

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Speaker 3: Maybe, Yeah, And I feel like Minnesota's got a good shot.

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Speaker 3: I know one of our fans it wasn't Dan Land,

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Speaker 3: but somebody mentioned, did you see Minnesota last year after

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Speaker 3: they won their game against Dallas in the Conference finals,

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Speaker 3: they just kind of played dead the game after that,

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Speaker 3: so they're done. But that was different. I mean, they

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Speaker 3: won the fourth game to go down three to one,

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Speaker 3: and then they lost game five. So I think this

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Speaker 3: is different in that they won earlier in the series.

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Speaker 3: They won game three. It's different.

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Speaker 1: I mean, so those a gentleman's sweep last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, indeed, Yeah, it's very different.

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Speaker 1: But let's see if the Thunder can get back to

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Speaker 1: the finals or if the Wolves can give us a

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Speaker 1: game six back in Minnesota. We'll be here to talk

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Speaker 1: about it at ten am Eastern. Join us in the

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Speaker 1: five star ratings and reviews. Until then, clomberro you heard.

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Speaker 2: It here first, have a great time, turn up, love

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Speaker 2: you guys awesome.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember, as the late great

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Speaker 3: Bill Walton used to say, it's not where you've been,

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Speaker 3: it's where you are.

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Speaker 1: Embrace the eight People.