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Speaker 1: Hey, Professional Homegirls. It's Shagirl Ebinez here and welcome back

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Speaker 1: to the Professional Homegirl Podcast. As always, I am super

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Speaker 1: excited about this week's conversation as my guest shares her

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Speaker 1: incredible near death experience, taking us from the brink of

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Speaker 1: mortality to profound insights that will challenge your beliefs. And

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Speaker 1: Part one, we dive into the moments leading up to

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Speaker 1: her encounter with the unknown, exploring questions about free will

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Speaker 1: and her thoughts on if she wants to come back

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Speaker 1: or not. Brace yourselves for a thought provoking journey. I

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Speaker 1: had a near death experience. Part one starts now to

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Speaker 1: my guests, thank you so much for being on a show.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for having me, of course.

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Speaker 3: So how are you. How are you doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm doing pretty well. You know, the weather outside is frightful,

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Speaker 2: but inside it's the light ful, So it's just kind of,

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Speaker 2: you know, a regular day here in Illinois.

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Speaker 1: I was to actually, where are you. It's a snowstorm

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Speaker 1: that's coming that way right yep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: My best friend live in Chicago, and she was telling

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Speaker 1: me how she needs to run some errands before she

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Speaker 1: gets stuck outside. I'm like, yeah, girl, you know once

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Speaker 1: that hawk comes out in Chicago.

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Speaker 3: That's it?

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Speaker 2: How is it by your end?

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Speaker 3: You know, today was actually a really nice day.

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Speaker 1: It was just so nice, Like the sky was like

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Speaker 1: like a pretty viber blue with hints of pink and stuff,

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Speaker 1: and the sun was shining. It was like forty something

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Speaker 1: to grease, but it was really nice.

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Speaker 2: That's great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, come on, god like, because I can't

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Speaker 1: take this cold weather now. Well, guys, I am so

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Speaker 1: excited to have my guests on this show. I have

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Speaker 1: conveyed this to her, but I have been looking for

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Speaker 1: someone to speak on this topic for since forever. I

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Speaker 1: think it's been like a year, year and a half,

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Speaker 1: and I came across from I don't know, I forgot

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Speaker 1: how I found you, but I think I found you

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Speaker 1: on YouTube or I don't know how I found you,

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Speaker 1: but I was pretty much going down a rabbit hole

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Speaker 1: and I found her. So I'm really excited about this conversation.

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Speaker 1: And I really feel like this conversation is gonna definitely

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Speaker 1: help a lot of us out. So I really appreciate

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Speaker 1: you coming on the show today.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you for having me. I really am happy

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Speaker 2: to especially be on your podcast as a woman of color. Yes.

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Speaker 1: Now, since she segue into it, y'all, you know, I

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Speaker 1: told her that is so difficult finding black people to

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Speaker 1: share their experience with near death experiences. So why does

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Speaker 1: it seem like near death experiences only happened to white people?

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Speaker 2: God only loved them, right, right, the chosen ones? Right? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's hilarious. But I've had this conversation with several other people,

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Speaker 2: and there's one of my podcasts that's a popular podcast,

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Speaker 2: and I'll share this. I mean, it's not something that

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Speaker 2: was known, and I hope that Jeff doesn't get upset

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Speaker 2: that I shared this. And initially somebody told me to

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Speaker 3: Yeah I watched that one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And I didn't really know anything about him beforehand.

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Speaker 2: I really didn't even know about the podcasting world. So

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Speaker 2: when the person referred me and reached out and I

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Speaker 2: reached back out to him, he said, yeah, why don't

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Speaker 2: you come on the show, And I said, well, I

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Speaker 2: wasn't sure if I should approach you, because everybody that

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Speaker 2: I've seen in your interviews is white. Yes, I didn't

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Speaker 2: know if you were interviewing any flat.

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Speaker 1: But that's something that stands out because when you go

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Speaker 1: or the conversations that they have and it's all the

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Speaker 1: same type of person, it just makes you wonder.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but look at me. I mean, everybody our

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Speaker 1: But the only reason why I do that is because

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Speaker 1: there isn't a lot of platforms that allow women of color,

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Speaker 1: just be able to, you know, get their story across.

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Speaker 1: And you don't really hear stories like this from women

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Speaker 2: Well you know, that's understandable, as we need to kind

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Speaker 2: to him, he said, oh no, yeah, we interviewed people

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Speaker 2: woman of color who has podcast reached out to me,

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Speaker 2: the the host. So I felt really good energy from you.

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Speaker 2: That's why I decided to do it, but with her,

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Speaker 2: you know, she thought that I wasn't going to do it,

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Speaker 2: and I was like, look, you've got great energy, but

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Speaker 2: also you're a woman of color. I need to come

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Speaker 2: on your show to support you. And so and we've

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Speaker 2: become friends now. And we talked about the fact that

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Speaker 2: there's not very much representation in the spiritual in the

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Speaker 2: spiritual world in this particular topic, that's something that's not

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Speaker 2: the standard, meaning either you know, fundamental or Baptist or

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Speaker 2: fact that it could be because many are raised in

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Speaker 2: People have been called, you know, said that they encountered

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Speaker 2: the devil, or that their experience was not holy or whatever,

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Speaker 2: just because it's different than the traditional and fundamental experience.

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Speaker 2: I used to be a part of a fundamental church

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Speaker 2: and for a while I didn't talk about my experience

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Speaker 2: because it was so different. It was, you know, so

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Speaker 2: out of the box. And the more I talked about it,

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Speaker 2: the more I started seeing that it was actually, even

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Speaker 2: though we all have unique near death experiences and everyone

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Speaker 2: has a different experience, it was actually within the box

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Speaker 2: of near death experiences. So I hope that a lot

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Speaker 2: more people who are of color explore even some of

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know what, you make two good points.

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Speaker 1: One point is it's definitely important and representation matters in

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Speaker 1: all rooms. So really quickly I did a series and

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Speaker 1: and pretty much I highlight women, obviously Black women in

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Speaker 1: different feels, either the spirituality or the supernatural. So I

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Speaker 1: especially black women. And then also to your point with

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Speaker 1: your friends, and you know, we have to stop telling

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Speaker 1: ourselves short because as long as you are nice and

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Speaker 1: you are being genuine, that will take you way farther than.

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Speaker 3: Anything else could have.

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Speaker 1: So exactly, yes, I think we have to just go

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Speaker 2: M exactly, and you said that, you said exactly what

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Speaker 2: it is you have to go out on a limb

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Speaker 2: of faith. For me, I didn't talk about my experience

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Speaker 2: publicly for I think it was seven years. Oh wow.

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Speaker 2: I only recently started speaking about it. And one of

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Speaker 2: the spiritual lessons that I learned was about bravery, not

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Speaker 2: being afraid of what people think, not being afraid of

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Speaker 2: what people how people view you, because especially as women

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Speaker 2: of color, we go out there on the defense to

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Speaker 2: be judged. We're ready to be judged. Yeah, we go

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Speaker 2: out there and we're just like, that's our expectation. But

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Speaker 2: if we go out, you know, if we do things

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Speaker 2: to us. So I said, okay, God, you've been nagging

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Speaker 2: I did so. And in that act in bravery, it

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Speaker 2: activates the frequency of love because of bravery and love

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Speaker 2: to love. Okay, And once I did that, just I

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Speaker 2: and it in turn blessed me, and it nourished me

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Speaker 1: And isn't seven doesn't seven mean like complete or like

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Speaker 1: And you know, I had a that was one of

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Speaker 1: my questions because I feel like I don't know which

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Speaker 1: it just a little bit on how challenging it was

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Speaker 3: Because of your religious background.

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Speaker 2: Yes, so, I you know, was a part of well,

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Speaker 2: when I first started out in my spiritual journey, and

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Speaker 2: I have you know, there's an atheist that I'm close

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Speaker 2: So and I had family that were very religious and traditional,

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Speaker 1: Right, did you know anyone else that experience indeed before.

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Speaker 4: I mean like technically somebody says a near death experience,

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Speaker 4: it's not something that was in my world or realm.

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Speaker 2: So I didn't really know much about it. I didn't really.

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Speaker 2: I knew it happened to people, but I had zero

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Speaker 2: But even that, I hardly ever heard that. And it

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Speaker 1: you didn't have doctors who was really trying to figure

435
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,800
Speaker 1: out and really trying to save you, this could have

436
00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: went completely left.

437
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:10,879
Speaker 3: Like do you think about that?

438
00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:16,399
Speaker 2: Well, that's a touchy subject because I got into my

439
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 2: situation because of a mistake that was made.

440
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,600
Speaker 3: Yes, that is, and you got an infection.

441
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 2: At first, I got an infection, I was being treated,

442
00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 2: it was getting better, and then there was a mistake

443
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: that was made with my medication. Wow. So that's a

444
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 2: touchy subject.

445
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,719
Speaker 1: Okay, And I don't want to go too deep into

446
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: unless you're comfortable with it. But I'm assuming you had

447
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: a reaction to it which caused you to go to

448
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: the hospital and get into a comma.

449
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 2: Yeah.

450
00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: Wow, I hope you got some coins from that, because

451
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: that is scary. No, I'm serious, And you have a

452
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,440
Speaker 1: child like that's really scary.

453
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 2: It was my daughter was eleven years old, so she

454
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 2: was ten going on eleven, and it was very traumatizing.

455
00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,640
Speaker 2: But when that when I when I after my coma

456
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:14,280
Speaker 2: and after getting out of the hospital. That's one of

457
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 2: the things that angered me is how women of color

458
00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 2: especially are treated in medical institutions. And there's got to

459
00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: be something done about that because it's not right.

460
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, And how do you make a mistake like that?

461
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, the people you know in hospital and healthcare facilities,

462
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:40,360
Speaker 2: they make mistakes all the time. And yeah, and what

463
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,200
Speaker 2: I found in especially if anybody you know, for if

464
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:49,160
Speaker 2: anybody ever goes to the hospital or you know, even

465
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 2: the doctor, but definitely the hospital if you're admitted, make

466
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 2: sure you have somebody with you. If you don't have

467
00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: somebody with you, if you don't have anyone that can go,

468
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: make sure you're documenting, even filming what's going on if

469
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,040
Speaker 2: you're a woman of color especially.

470
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, that's so true.

471
00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: I mean, even Beyond and Serena have issues when they

472
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: was having given birth, Like yeah, when they was giving birth,

473
00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:20,360
Speaker 1: Beyonce and Serena Williams was saying how how they were treated,

474
00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 1: and nobody and I'm paraphrasing, but nobody pretty much believed

475
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: that they were in pain. And I'm just like wow, Like,

476
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: these are people who have access to resources and like,

477
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 1: you know, the best and the best, So if it

478
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,200
Speaker 1: can happen to them, I know it can happen to me.

479
00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,720
Speaker 2: Wow, that's insane.

480
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, so we have to advocate for ourselves and like

481
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: just even if you don't know, ask questions or just

482
00:30:42,240 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: put your phone out record, like you have to really

483
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,640
Speaker 1: like put fear in people because people would try it.

484
00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, and you know the I'm grateful to the

485
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: doctors that did try to help. At one point though

486
00:30:57,080 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 2: they gave up and they said that they there's nothing

487
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 2: else that they could do for me. That was not

488
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: necessarily their fault. They were looking at the situation and

489
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 2: requested to take me off of life support. And but

490
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: it's initially the the I was transferred from one hospital

491
00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 2: the hospital to another, so it's the first hospital. Those

492
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,120
Speaker 2: were the doctors that made the mistake, not the not

493
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:34,560
Speaker 2: the second one. Yeah, But that being said, it inspired

494
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:40,040
Speaker 2: me to do more medical advocacy, and it also inspired

495
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:47,200
Speaker 2: me to go into to help people in that manner

496
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:54,280
Speaker 2: because it's important for especially women of color to be supported.

497
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, now did you know looking back? Did you know

498
00:31:57,720 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: that you were going into a coma?

499
00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:00,360
Speaker 2: No?

500
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 3: Or did everything just happened? So happened fast?

501
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: Everything happened so fast. Yeah. I saw the faces of

502
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 2: some of the nurses that looked confused, look worried, were

503
00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 2: like fumbling around and things like that, and then that's

504
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 2: all I remember of them, of any hospital staff.

505
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: And I know that you were in a coma for

506
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,760
Speaker 1: over two and a half months. So but how long

507
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 1: did it feel to you? Did you feel like a

508
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: long time?

509
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 2: No? Actually it felt like like a blink of an eye.

510
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 1: I feel like you were fun in your Indeed, he

511
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:42,640
Speaker 1: was trying to come back.

512
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:49,920
Speaker 2: What happened was is when I woke up, and there

513
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: was a time where I didn't want to come back,

514
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 2: all right, I shouldn't say I didn't want to, but

515
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: you know I would not have come back necessarily. But

516
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 2: when I did wake up, it was, let's see, I went,

517
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: I went into a coma, and I think August, late

518
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 2: August or September, and I yeah, late August, and I

519
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:22,200
Speaker 2: woke up at the end of October, okay. And when

520
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:28,479
Speaker 2: I woke up, you know how they put the names

521
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 2: or the numbers and the date on the whiteboard. It

522
00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 2: said October twenty eighth, and my daughter was their family.

523
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,160
Speaker 2: I was like, stop playing tricks on me. Somebody changed

524
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 2: the date and they said, no, that's the actual date.

525
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: And I was like, come on, stop it and they

526
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: said no, it's the date. And finally I accepted it.

527
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: And then when I accepted that that was the date,

528
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:59,400
Speaker 2: I just started crying. And they said, you've been in

529
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 2: a coma. The other it literally did not feel like

530
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,000
Speaker 2: any time had passed at all, like like a blink.

531
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,480
Speaker 3: Wow.

532
00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: So I know you said that you thought about not

533
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:22,320
Speaker 1: coming back. So do we get the choice to come back?

534
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: Because I remember when you said something about the time sometimes,

535
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,200
Speaker 1: because you said something earlier about if someone wants to

536
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,480
Speaker 1: commit suicide nine times out of ten, you're going to

537
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,680
Speaker 1: come back here until you get it right. I'm assuming

538
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,320
Speaker 1: and you know that really resonate with me. And I

539
00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 1: don't know if I shared the story before, but I'm

540
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: really like I have my whole spiritual team. So my

541
00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: Akashak Records reader, she went to my akashiks and she

542
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,400
Speaker 1: pretty much told me that in one of my past

543
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: life it was so much stuff that was going on,

544
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 1: but she ended up committing suicide.

545
00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 2: Wow.

546
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's so crazy because when I was a kid,

547
00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,920
Speaker 1: up until probably my mid twenties, I used to have

548
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:03,160
Speaker 1: a really crazy fear of bridges, Like I would feel

549
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:06,239
Speaker 1: so uncomfortable with bridges. And this time I knew she

550
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 1: was real because I never told nobody this, Probably like

551
00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,480
Speaker 1: one or two people knew this.

552
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 3: And I was like, well, how did she commit suicide?

553
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 3: Like I want to know?

554
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: And she was like, she was driving down a bridge

555
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: and she I guess she did. I guess she wanted

556
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,799
Speaker 1: to do it until she realized she was actually doing it,

557
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 1: and she changed her mind and she drove off a bridge.

558
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 2: And I'm like, wow, And you know, that's so interesting

559
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 2: that you bring that up, because not a lot of

560
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,480
Speaker 2: people know that some of our fears in this reality,

561
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,200
Speaker 2: in this life, yeah, are from past life, are from

562
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,360
Speaker 2: past life issues that happen.

563
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 3: Yeah.

564
00:35:40,360 --> 00:35:43,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, So so why do you you said sometimes we

565
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: get the choice?

566
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 3: What the term is that choice?

567
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: I'm not sure what determines it, but what I was

568
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: instructed on is that you sometimes we make good decisions

569
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 2: for ourselves and sometimes we don't, meaning that sometimes a

570
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: decision is made for us that because if we go

571
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: to a place where everything's warm and fuzzy and we

572
00:36:10,360 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 2: feel good, we might forget about our responsibilities and forget

573
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 2: how the impact of us not being around might affect

574
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: the people who you know, who are lives. I was.

575
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 2: I was apathetic, meaning that I didn't really care either way.

576
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,880
Speaker 2: At some point, even though I did fight to stay alive,

577
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: there were times where I was just kind of like,

578
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 2: you know what whatever as far as whether or not

579
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,239
Speaker 2: I was gonna come back or not. And I was

580
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 2: told that I was. It wasn't my time, and that

581
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 2: I was coming back. And I believe that was because

582
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,560
Speaker 2: of my daughter.

583
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:51,360
Speaker 3: How about to ask you that about your daughter? How

584
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:52,280
Speaker 3: did that make you feel?

585
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 2: Like?

586
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: Why do you think that makes her feel? When she hears

587
00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 3: this part of it.

588
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:02,320
Speaker 2: She understands. She's pretty spiritual. And in fact, my daughter

589
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: was the only person who believed that I was going

590
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 2: to make it, even when, even when all my organs

591
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 2: had failed, even when and they were talking about dialysis

592
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: for me, even when they were talking about a lung transplant,

593
00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 2: because my CO two level was over two hundred and

594
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 2: the max it's supposed to be is thirty five. That

595
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:30,279
Speaker 2: isn't meaning exactly. And I when you have so much

596
00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 2: CO two in your system, it starts killing off your

597
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: brain cells. You get brain damage to the point and

598
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:39,240
Speaker 2: severe brain damage to the point where you can't talk,

599
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 2: you can't walk, things like that. When you you know,

600
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: if you recover someone I had complete sepsis, complete sepsis,

601
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 2: and if when you're in the stage of when you're

602
00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 2: in a dying state, all of your cells just like

603
00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 2: in regular life, just as we're sitting here today, we

604
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: have cells her building every day and we have cells

605
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 2: that are dying every day. But when you're in a

606
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:10,920
Speaker 2: dying state, you're becoming necrotic every single day. Your body's

607
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,440
Speaker 2: dying more and more. She was seeing this priest from

608
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: the hospital gave me my last rights, which I don't remember,

609
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 2: but I was told that the priest gave my last rights.

610
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 2: And she happened to be an African American woman that

611
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,480
Speaker 2: gave my last right. And she sat with my daughter,

612
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: and my daughter was telling her because my daughter has

613
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,080
Speaker 2: an angel guide that told her, your mother's going to

614
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:44,360
Speaker 2: get out of the hospital two weeks before Christmas? Okay,

615
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:46,520
Speaker 2: or is that she's going to get out of the

616
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: hospital before Christmas. She didn't say two weeks, but before Christmas.

617
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,400
Speaker 2: My daughter's angel guide told her this back in August

618
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: when I first went into the Wow. So my daughter

619
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 2: kept on telling everybody, my mother's gonna make it. My

620
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: mother's gonna make it, and they were just kind of like, oh,

621
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 2: we need to prepare you, and they brought the priest

622
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:13,000
Speaker 2: was trying to counsel her to just be prepared because

623
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: it wasn't nobody can come back from this. The doctor

624
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,480
Speaker 2: said I had less than one percent chance of survival

625
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,920
Speaker 2: and if I did survive, I would be in a

626
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 2: vegetated state more than likely, like not able to do

627
00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 2: anything for myself.

628
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:27,480
Speaker 3: Wow.

629
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:34,560
Speaker 2: So when basically when they when they saw that I

630
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 2: lived again, my daughter was the only one who knew

631
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 2: that that would happen because she was told, listen, I

632
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 2: know you a good woman because because God would be

633
00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: sick of me, I'm like, yo.

634
00:39:47,000 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 3: I'm literally one of God's people.

635
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:55,080
Speaker 1: I would be talking so much smack like like you,

636
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,839
Speaker 1: I would be stunning on people because is no way

637
00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: like you really It's like she wasn't supposed to make it, right.

638
00:40:02,600 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 2: M hm, wow, it was like supposed to And then

639
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: a shift and you.

640
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: Got this two year old that's telling everybody you're gonna

641
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: make it, which is like, so is insane?

642
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah. And spiritually she kept on getting she kept

643
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 2: on seeing different things that would show up, like, for example,

644
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,680
Speaker 2: a butterfly would show up like on the windowsill, or

645
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 2: a praying mantis or something like that would show up.

646
00:40:32,200 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 2: Things like that would just like show up, and all

647
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:39,560
Speaker 2: of those those particular insects and creatures mean things spiritually,

648
00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:42,920
Speaker 2: and the way she thinks because she's spiritual is like,

649
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 2: let me look up and see what that means. She

650
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 2: was thinking that way at ten eleven years old, and

651
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:51,360
Speaker 2: she would look it up and it would say messages

652
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:56,560
Speaker 2: like a beautiful transformation is going to happen, or you know,

653
00:40:56,760 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 2: life is going to prevail or something like that.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you feel like I feel like I

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Speaker 1: could talk to you forever, like we we're gonna definitely

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Speaker 1: be friends, because because do you feel like and I

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Speaker 1: feel like this, I feel like, you know, I had

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Speaker 1: a very tumultuous upbringing, but something in my spirit always

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Speaker 1: told me that I was gonna be okay. Like I

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Speaker 1: always believe that, and like, you know, now me and

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Speaker 1: God has finally gone the right.

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Speaker 3: Page, on the same page.

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Speaker 1: I feel like me and him we like yeah, like

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Speaker 1: you know, I ain't want to swing at him, but like,

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Speaker 1: but my love for God is like so deep and

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Speaker 1: like I'm just so thankful that He always been with me.

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Speaker 1: And so what I'm asking is because I feel like

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Speaker 1: God has always like he always shows you signs, like

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Speaker 1: is everything a sign?

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Speaker 2: Not necessarily everything, but many things are right. We're in

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Speaker 2: a world that's designed to take our attention away from

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Speaker 2: what's really important. But there are lots of signs that

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Speaker 2: are around us all the time if we stop and

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Speaker 2: we listen and we look. Some people see angel numbers.

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Speaker 2: I see angel numbers. I have a feeling you do too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, my angel numbers is eleven eleven. All the time

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Speaker 1: that fails, especially when I need some clarity on something,

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Speaker 1: I'm like God, or I ask my my Nana or

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Speaker 1: my Grandma Roles or just anyone who's that in the

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Speaker 1: spiritual room, just that's protecting me, Like, hey, just give

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Speaker 1: me a sign and eleven and eleven every time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and quantum mechanics. The universe speaks in numbers, and

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Speaker 2: music music is numbers. Yeah, and you know those numbers

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Speaker 2: are forms of communication from you know, the spiritual realm

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Speaker 2: our guides basically saying because they know it's tough, they

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Speaker 2: know this is hard. I know the earthplane is a

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Speaker 2: boot camp and it's hard. And I my daughter and

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Speaker 2: I joke about this all the time because we both

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Speaker 2: believe that in my previous life she was a warrior

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Speaker 2: of some kind, and so we joke about the fact

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Speaker 2: that the only thing that lured us back into coming

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Speaker 2: to Earth was how good the food is, right, And

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Speaker 2: we were like, you know, well, you know I can

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Speaker 2: handle Earth. I could come back here if we wanted to.

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Speaker 2: And then we get here and it's tough. We're crying.

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Speaker 3: No, it's fire man.

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Speaker 1: Last night, I just had a conversation with an ordained

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Speaker 1: minister who is now like a spiritual mother, and uh,

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Speaker 1: pretty much everything that you're saying, she has said the

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Speaker 1: exact same thing. Yeah, So do you feel like we

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Speaker 1: are in the matrix?

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Speaker 2: Definitely? But the matrix what people don't understand, or maybe

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Speaker 2: some do because I don't know everybody, but the matrix

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Speaker 2: is our own making we so I hear a lot

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Speaker 2: of Peo people, and that's one of the things that

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Speaker 2: I had learned. On the other side, a lot of

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Speaker 2: people talk about the simulation. Oh my gosh, we're in

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Speaker 2: a simulation. Nothing's real, what have you? But and because

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Speaker 2: they're thinking of it like a computer simulation, but without

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Speaker 2: taking taking a computer aspect out of it, the spiritual

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Speaker 2: realm simulates. It does the action of simulation, but it's

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Speaker 2: because everything is like quantum mechanics, meaning that you've had

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Speaker 2: the spiritual realm and beings in the spiritual realm, the

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Speaker 2: beings being angels, you know whatever, and it's it simulates

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Speaker 2: by telling us, giving us the thought, Hey, why don't

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Speaker 2: you go bless that person over there with who's hungry

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Speaker 2: or whatever. That's a simulation. And people don't realize all

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Speaker 2: of those little things are simulations. And so life is

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Speaker 2: very real and we are simulating it. But we're not

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Speaker 2: living in like a computer simulation where nothing is real. Right, right,

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Speaker 2: people have gotten that wrong.

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Speaker 1: So because my mind is running that it's going around circles.

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Speaker 1: So if let's say, if angels are telling me to

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Speaker 1: go feed a homeless person, and I'm like, hey, let

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Speaker 1: me go give help this homeless person out and give

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Speaker 1: him a nice meal.

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Speaker 3: Does that go against my free will?

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Speaker 2: That's a really good question.

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Speaker 3: Listens goes wrong?

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Speaker 2: Okay, it doesn't go against your free will because you

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Speaker 2: can always say no, people don't listen to their guides.

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Speaker 2: All this is true.

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Speaker 1: That is true because you still have the choice if

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Speaker 1: you want to go, if you want to do it

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Speaker 1: or that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. There's some things that are predetermined, but there

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Speaker 2: are other things that are free will. There's for ever

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Speaker 2: since philosophy became a thing, there's been arguments between free

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Speaker 2: will versus determinism and for the ages, going all the

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Speaker 2: way back to Socrates. But there's some free will and

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Speaker 2: there's some determinism, meaning there's some things that are determined.

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Speaker 2: You in your previous life, you came back here and

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Speaker 2: you accepted the challenge. You decided, yes, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: come back here because my soul needs to elevate through

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Speaker 2: this journey. And you decided to come back here. But

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Speaker 2: some of the things that have popped up you didn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily decide. But you have a choice as to whether

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Speaker 2: or not you accept every challenge and every opportunity that

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Speaker 2: comes your way, and you have to. And people people

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Speaker 2: experience change and transformation and their soul journey if they

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Speaker 2: look at every opportunity that they either take or don't

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Speaker 2: take as how it's going to benefit their soul. Not

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Speaker 2: how is it going to benefit their day, how is

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Speaker 2: it going to benefit their month, or their family or

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Speaker 2: their life, But in a big scheme of things, how

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Speaker 2: is it going to benefit your soul?

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Speaker 1: This marks the end of part one for this week's episode,

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Speaker 1: and be sure the catch Part two drop in next week,

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Speaker 1: same time, same place to have and remember to always

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Speaker 1: share your story because you never know how your storyline

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Speaker 1: might become someone else's lifeline. Until next time, Everyone later.

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