1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Welcome in everybody to the Monday President's Day edition of 2 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:09,080 Speaker 1: the Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show, or Working Everybody. 3 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: This is live, baby, this show is live. We are 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,080 Speaker 1: large and in charge here on Clay and Buck. 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: Some of you. 6 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: Some people are saying you have days off, very lucky people, 7 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:24,920 Speaker 1: very big bank accounts, very fortunate people with their days 8 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: off for President's Day play. We do not have President's 9 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:29,840 Speaker 1: Day off. We are here to bring you all the 10 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:32,760 Speaker 1: news and to entertain you and inform you. Despite it 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: being a federal holiday. You know what percent of workers 12 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: get this day off in the in the private industry. 13 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: What would you guess? Take a gat? Twenty percent? 14 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: You nailed it between nineteen to twenty four, depending on 15 00:00:45,760 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 1: the year, but about twenty percent. So eighty percent of 16 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 1: the private industry is still working today. But it's called 17 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: the federal holiday. We didn't get it. So you know, 18 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: perhaps this year I will take off Juneteenth, in fact, 19 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 1: which is all we don't get. We don't get Juneteenth 20 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: to MLCA. We're live Columbus Day, and we're live on 21 00:01:04,920 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: President's Day if I'm not mistaken. And also a lot 22 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: of times the Friday after Thanksgiving, so we are. 23 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:13,119 Speaker 2: I think it's fair to say in the. 24 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Media world, probably working way more days than the vast 25 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: majority of people are. Yes, one day, we'll be on 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: that Rachel Maddow one day a week, thirty million dollars 27 00:01:22,200 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: a year gig. But in the meantime, it's a good gig. 28 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: In the meantime, we're here to bring you all the news. 29 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: And for those of you who are in that fortune 30 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 1: and twenty five percent, you can kick back, relax all 31 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: three hours. You can also take this time to get 32 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 1: your copy of Manufacturing Delusion, which comes out tomorrow. Officially, 33 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: my friends, how the left uses brainwashing in doctrination of 34 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: propaganda against you. 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 2: Run up those numbers. 36 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: Go to clayanbuck dot com if you want, we're go 37 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: to Amazon or wherever you get your books. We need 38 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 1: a lot of books sold. People are saying things like 39 00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:54,280 Speaker 1: no one reads anymore. Let's prove them wrong. Let's prove 40 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: them wrong, Conservatives. People listen to the show we read, 41 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: so go check that out. Speaking of people who don't read, 42 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: this is a perfect transition. I might say AOC and 43 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: Gretchen Whitmer at the Munich Security Conference, no doubt, two 44 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: women who are going to be running probably along with Kamala, 45 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: which we don't need to talk about that right now. 46 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: It's sad probably going to be running for president, and 47 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 1: that means that they need to burnish their national security credentials. Now, 48 00:02:26,320 --> 00:02:28,840 Speaker 1: I will say, Clay and I pre show had the discussion. 49 00:02:29,320 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: Do we get into Rubio's speech, which was truly magnificent, 50 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 1: the best Secretary of State speech I have heard, or 51 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: certainly that I know. I just just watched it, but 52 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,160 Speaker 1: that I can remember, it was phenomenal. It addressed a 53 00:02:46,160 --> 00:02:49,240 Speaker 1: lot of things, the defensive Western civilization, the ties between 54 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: America and Europe, the bond that goes far beyond just 55 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: a treaty or obligation of statute. 56 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:57,600 Speaker 2: This is something that is much deeper. 57 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:59,920 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that, but Clay, let's start with this 58 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: US AOC ask some questions about some things. I want 59 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: to start with her. Should the US defend this is 60 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 1: cut eight? Should the US defend Taiwan if China goes 61 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 1: for it? 62 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 2: Play eight? 63 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:16,280 Speaker 3: Would? 64 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 4: And should the US actually commit US troops to defend 65 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 4: Taiwan if China. 66 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 5: Were to move? You know, I think that. 67 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 6: This is such a you know, I think that this 68 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 6: is a this is of course a very long standing 69 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 6: policy of the United States, and I think what we 70 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 6: are hoping for is that we want to make sure 71 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,839 Speaker 6: that we never get to that point, and we want 72 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:53,800 Speaker 6: to make sure that we are moving in all of 73 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 6: our economic research and our global positions to avoid. 74 00:03:58,600 --> 00:03:59,839 Speaker 2: Any such confrontation. 75 00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: And for that question to even arrise, Clay, it's law 76 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: school class and AOC got called on by a professor, 77 00:04:07,640 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: and not only did she fail to do the reading, 78 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: she doesn't know what case they're talking about. It's worse 79 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: than that, Buck, It's like she doesn't know that there 80 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: is a legislative, executive, and judicial branch of the United 81 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: States government. This sounded like, if you remember the megaviral 82 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: answer the Iraq from Miss South Carolina back in the day, 83 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: that maybe we can grab that and interspice them, because 84 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: I think that would be a fun take. To me, 85 00:04:36,720 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 1: this kind of answer is disqualifying. And you might say, Okay, Clay, 86 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: what do you mean by that. AOC has been in 87 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: Congress now, Buck, for what eight years? Basically didn't she 88 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: get elected back in twenty eighteen ish? If I'm not mistaken, 89 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: so I think she's been in Congress for around eight years. 90 00:04:55,320 --> 00:05:00,720 Speaker 1: That's my recollection of her career. What we should if 91 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: China invades Taiwan is one of the constant hypotheticals that 92 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: has existed for basically two three generations where people have answered, 93 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 1: here is an easy answer that AOC could give if 94 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: she had in any way a functional brain. Right now, 95 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 1: I am a congresswoman. I don't dictate foreign policy, but 96 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 1: I think it's important that we maintain our long standing 97 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: policy of strategic ambiguity. Maybe one day down the line, 98 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:33,240 Speaker 1: if I remember setting behind the Resolute Desk, I'll have 99 00:05:33,279 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 1: to reconcile what strategic ambiguity actually means. But today is 100 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 1: not that day. Next question, I just did it off 101 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: the top of my head. You and I are not 102 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 1: eight year congress people. We are not professional politicians. You 103 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: probably no way more about this, by far than most 104 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 1: professional politicians do, because you just came back from Taiwan. 105 00:05:56,600 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 1: But to be this poor at responding to a question 106 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 1: that is not in any way difficult, buck if she 107 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:08,280 Speaker 1: had been asked, Hey, there is a major issue right 108 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:12,920 Speaker 1: now on the border between India and Pakistan. Where should 109 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: the border actually be drawn? Based on the inherent tensions 110 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 1: that have existed in that region since the nineteen forties. 111 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:22,680 Speaker 2: What parallel should the line be? AOC. 112 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,479 Speaker 1: Like some questions you get asked and you could say, okay, 113 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: like I understand why there's not a definitive answer there. 114 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 2: This is not one of those. 115 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: It's one of the most basic questions of rudimentary knowledge 116 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:39,279 Speaker 1: that anyone in American politics should be able to answer, 117 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: just immediately, without even any difficulty whatsoever. I would even 118 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: raise the annie and do what you just did. It's 119 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 1: even worse than that Clay because usually AOC knows what 120 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 1: answer her audience wants to hear, because she has come 121 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:03,680 Speaker 1: across this before. She doesn't even know which side of 122 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 1: this she's supposed to. 123 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 2: Be, well, that's partly true or her. 124 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 1: Side right, So usually it would be you know, uh, 125 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: if it's anything having to do with Israel, take the 126 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,920 Speaker 1: anti Israel side, and that's what that's what her team wants, 127 00:07:15,960 --> 00:07:18,679 Speaker 1: that's what the left, that's what the commedis want, anti Israel, 128 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: That's what AOC has to do, right. There are some 129 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: issues where it just falls into this bucket. Is it 130 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: white people and brown people anywhere in the world, any 131 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: issue gotta favor the brown people. That's just what her 132 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:32,440 Speaker 1: audience demands, that's what her supporters expect, and then you 133 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: sit here, you go okay. On this one, she doesn't 134 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 1: even know what side of it her supporters want her 135 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 1: to be on. So it's yes, there's the lack of knowledge, 136 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: the lack of information, that's clear, but beyond that there 137 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: is uh. She hasn't even thought about this enough to 138 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: know what wrote answer she's supposed to give this And 139 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: I'm but I was gonna say this ties in directly 140 00:07:55,960 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: to your point, Buck, when she answered about Rubio saying, hey, 141 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: there's a history of Europe even founded in the cowboys 142 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 1: and how they came to exist. This ties in with 143 00:08:05,880 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: that book where her default is just white people bad, 144 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: brown black people good, and that's going to be the 145 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 1: metric under which I try to answer any question. But 146 00:08:16,320 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: it just exposes her. Listen to this book cut six 147 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 1: talking about cowboys. 148 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 6: Rudo's speech was a pure appeal to Western culture. My 149 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:32,200 Speaker 6: favorite part was when he said that American cowboys came 150 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 6: from Spain. I believe the Mexicans and descendants of African 151 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 6: enslaved people's would like to have. 152 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 2: A word on that. She doesn't know. 153 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: To be clear, that wasn't a misstatement She doesn't know 154 00:08:50,559 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: that there were no horses, nor was there any domestication 155 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: of animals in the Americas, with the exception, as I 156 00:08:57,280 --> 00:08:59,360 Speaker 1: pointed out on Twitter of lamas by the Incas in 157 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: South America, there was no there were no horses, There 158 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:06,319 Speaker 1: were no cows that were domesticated in North America or 159 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: at least in the you know, fifty states or forty 160 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: eight states of America and Mexico and Clay. She doesn't 161 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: know that the Natives got their horses from the Spanish 162 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: Conquista doors. 163 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 2: She doesn't know. 164 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: It seems that Mexicans are descendants of Spaniards. 165 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 2: That's why they speak Spanish. There's a reason for that. 166 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, there's a reason for an Espanol 167 00:09:29,840 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: in Mexico. 168 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,200 Speaker 2: They're not speaking as tech down there. Yeah right. 169 00:09:35,400 --> 00:09:38,800 Speaker 1: I also think her opening criticism, we've got one more 170 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: cut from her. And I do think the disconnecting the 171 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: average intellectual theft between Marco Rubio and AOC is I 172 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: don't know, thirty forty IQ points potentially in terms of 173 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: their ability to communicate and understand larger issues. Yes, Marco 174 00:09:55,000 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: Rubio defended Western civilization because Western civilization is the foundation 175 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: of all basically human progress throughout the past thousand years, 176 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: two thousand years. 177 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 2: However far back you want to. 178 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 1: Go, And this is also tying in to your point 179 00:10:13,000 --> 00:10:16,359 Speaker 1: with she just kind of falls back on this identity 180 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: politics clap trap, which is a camouflage for morons from 181 00:10:21,679 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: having to actually engage on an intellectual level with complicated ideas, 182 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: where she says, again, brown and black people heroes, whiteness 183 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: is imaginary. 184 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: I don't even know what that means. Cut seven. 185 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 5: There's a very big difference between whiteness and national like 186 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 5: your actual culture, right, Whiteness is an imaginary thing. Being 187 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 5: German is real, Being Italian is real, you know, being English. 188 00:10:55,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: These are rich cultural heritages that are based on values, 189 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 5: and they are so much a part of what make 190 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 5: our our cultures and our societies what they are. 191 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 1: Okay, let's let's let's play this game for a second. Though, 192 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: So what is blackness? Yes, to be clear, what is 193 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:17,240 Speaker 1: what is black culture? An they want to play this 194 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: game for a second. Uh, if you start saying things like, uh, 195 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:25,680 Speaker 1: you know jazz music, you know, I don't know, you 196 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 1: know basketball, that's African American, that's Black American culture. 197 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 2: So to her, point, How is it any different. 198 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that the people of Mozambique think of 199 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 1: themselves as living a different culture, in different life than 200 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: people who grew up in the suburbs of Philly or 201 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 1: Chicago or in the city center. 202 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:43,720 Speaker 2: Pretty sure. 203 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:47,160 Speaker 1: So what exactly is her point? Somebody who talks about 204 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: black and brown people all the time. Oh, that's right, 205 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:55,679 Speaker 1: brown people, Peruvians and people from Malaysia very similar culture, 206 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 1: very similar. 207 00:11:57,320 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 2: Well, there are they all brown? They're brown? 208 00:12:00,280 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: So what is brownness? What are black and brown people? 209 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 1: In her context? This is what's so I mean, I 210 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: think it's also funny thought. She says Western civilization isn't 211 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 1: a thing, and then she goes and says British, German 212 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: and Italian cultures are real and they should be proud, 213 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: Like she isn't even capable of maintaining a coherent line 214 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: of thought. Because, and I do think this is important. 215 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: Identity politics has so overtaken the Democrat Party that they 216 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: cannot look at anything outside the prism of colonizer and colonized. 217 00:12:34,000 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: It so overtakes oppressor and oppressed, it, so overtakes their 218 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,679 Speaker 1: mind and destroys their ability to think that they cannot 219 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: even acknowledge or understand historical context. As a result, we'll 220 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 1: have some fun with this. We'll open up phone lines. 221 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:52,840 Speaker 1: I don't think we have any guests. 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For those of 262 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: you out there who remember the mini series based on 263 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: the Larry mcmurtury Pulitzer Prize winning book, he was McCall Gus. 264 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: He was Gus and Call was played by Tommy Lee Jones. 265 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: One of the great westerns. I think it was a 266 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: mini series on television, probably the greatest mini series of 267 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:32,240 Speaker 1: all time. Incredible thousand page book about a cattle drive 268 00:15:32,280 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: from Texas to Montana. But Robert Deaval and a lot 269 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: of you obviously are going to remember him from Godfather, 270 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: But Robert Deval dead at the age of ninety five. 271 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: That has just come down in the past couple of minutes. 272 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: You have a favorite Robert Deval character, Consolieri, and the 273 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: Godfather is I think the that's just you can't be 274 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 1: more iconic in a non leading role than that. I 275 00:16:01,720 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: think I think that was really he was really good. 276 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Sure German Irish, you know. I remember the whole memory 277 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: goes because the guy, oh yeah, he wants to roll 278 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: and he's like and if he tries any rough stuff, 279 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: I ain't a boy scout. 280 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,000 Speaker 2: Remember that whole thing. Then the horse's head in his bed. 281 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: Godfather one is an incredible holds up and an incredible 282 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: A lot of old movies people don't like to hear this. 283 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: There's a lot of indicating not acting or too slow whatever. 284 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: Godfather one is incredible still to this day, great movie. 285 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,000 Speaker 1: I think you can make an argument Godfather Too is 286 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 1: better than Godfather One, which is one of the rare 287 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: of all time sequels that you can even make an 288 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: argument is better than the original. A lot of people 289 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: say that, I'm in the camp that the original, the 290 00:16:41,280 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: first one, is still the best one. The second one 291 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: is obviously a phenomenal movie too. I like the first 292 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: one better just as a movie. I enjoyed it more. 293 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 1: A lot of people of our parents generation, I think, 294 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: would say that The Godfather is there, they think the 295 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 1: best movie of all time. There's definitely a fair enough 296 00:16:57,520 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 1: if you look on like like top one hundred all 297 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 1: time movie list, Godfather is routinely one, and to a 298 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 1: routinely top ten, top five. 299 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 2: Truly phenomenal. 300 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: In fact, I was talking about The Godfather this weekend 301 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: with my kids who haven't seen it yet. I was 302 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: telling him I need to get it on. All right, 303 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: let's play a couple of these other cuts we mentioned. Well, 304 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: should I mention, should I update the Nancy Guthrie thing? 305 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: I mean, they still lead the news with it every 306 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,800 Speaker 1: single day, and so I figure there must be a 307 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 1: huge segment of this population that is following it every 308 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,679 Speaker 1: single instant. Here is the latest on Nancy Guthrie. Let 309 00:17:36,680 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: me play it for you. TMZ now says that they 310 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: have received a fourth different ransom note and that this 311 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: email that they have received says that Nancy Guthrie is 312 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: now in Mexico. It has been what sixteen days I 313 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: believe since she went missing out in Arizona. And that 314 00:17:58,280 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 1: is let me make sure I get this cut right. 315 00:18:00,280 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 1: That is cut thirty two. 316 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,000 Speaker 2: I believe it is Monday morning. 317 00:18:04,040 --> 00:18:07,560 Speaker 8: We have received a fourth letter from the same person 318 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 8: who says that he knows where Nancy got three is 319 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 8: and he wants money in return for the information. Essentially, 320 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 8: he wants the reward. So I have something to say 321 00:18:19,280 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 8: to you, and I've already talked to the FBI about this, 322 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:26,240 Speaker 8: that if you are not real, you're committing a crime 323 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 8: and you should know that. And this is a serious 324 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,960 Speaker 8: Federal Crime. If you are real, this is the fourth 325 00:18:33,040 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 8: letter you've sent, and I should tell everybody that in 326 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 8: this letter, it says I know what I saw five 327 00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 8: days ago south of the border, and I was told 328 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,840 Speaker 8: to shut up. So I know who he is and 329 00:18:46,320 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 8: that was definitely Nancy with them. So I don't know 330 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 8: if you're real or not if you're watching this, but 331 00:18:54,200 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 8: if you are, if you're worried about getting this money 332 00:18:57,320 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 8: and you really do have this information, send it to us. 333 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 8: You're sending us these letters, send it to us. We 334 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:05,160 Speaker 8: will forward it to the FBI. 335 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: Okay, So that is ongoing. It is obsessive coverage for 336 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 1: two straight weeks and candidly very little in the realm 337 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: of certainty that has come out. Savannah Guthrie has put 338 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: out of videos trying to address the people who have 339 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: kidnapped her mom. 340 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:29,880 Speaker 2: Allegedly, the search for the guy who was. 341 00:19:29,840 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: On I presuming the man that was on the video, 342 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: does not seem to have led to any tangible result there. 343 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: So that is the latest on that one buck you 344 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,760 Speaker 1: were mentioning Obama, We'll get to him in the third 345 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 1: hour for everything he had to say. But I did 346 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: want to play this Gavin Newsom, who is certainly running 347 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,719 Speaker 1: for president, went overseas to Munich and he said in 348 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:58,840 Speaker 1: Germany that Ice are basically Nazis. And this is the 349 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: argument that continuing to be made. To go overseas to Germany, 350 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:09,879 Speaker 1: the birthplace of actual Nazis and make this argument is 351 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: I think even beyond the pale for Gavin Newsom. It 352 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,399 Speaker 1: also confirms that basically everybody that Democrats don't like is 353 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: a Nazi or is Hitler. This is just a never 354 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: ending argument that they are on the constant Nazi merry 355 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:28,640 Speaker 1: go round with. But here was Gavin Newsom saying this 356 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: in Germany, the country that did produce actual Nazis. Oh, 357 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 1: today Ice agents enforcing America's immigration law, they're Nazis. 358 00:20:37,119 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 2: Listen. 359 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 9: I ought to remember all those images of masked men, 360 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 9: the secret police, something familiar in Germany. Those first images 361 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 9: came out of my state, the second largest city in 362 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 9: the United States of America. We saw four thousand National 363 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 9: Guard federalized first time. 364 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: Would never say anything like this, and seven. 365 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 9: Hundred active duty Marines sent not overseas, but to the 366 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,639 Speaker 9: second largest city in the United States of America. The 367 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 9: streets of my city masked men, masked men showing up, unaccountable, 368 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 9: no idea ideas. 369 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, look as ridiculous as these arguments are, 370 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,479 Speaker 1: it's even more absurd to go to the birthplace of 371 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: legitimate Nazis and argue that Ice are Nazis. And I 372 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,439 Speaker 1: will point out buck that right after President Trump got 373 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 1: shot in July of twenty twenty four, Democrats came out 374 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: and said, oh, the Nazi rhetoric has to stop, and 375 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 1: then lasted about what two weeks, and then they went 376 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: right back to Republicans or Nazis. Donald Trump's Nazi. Everybody 377 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: that votes for Donald Trump is Nazi adjacent, and now 378 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,119 Speaker 1: Ice are the new Nazis. Well, but the problem that 379 00:21:44,160 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 1: they have is if Trump is a Nazi, why should 380 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,640 Speaker 1: the Nazi rhetoric stop? 381 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: And then I should go kill him? 382 00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 1: Right, I mean that's the real challenge of this, right, 383 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,280 Speaker 1: If he's the analysis, yeah, but they should kill it. 384 00:21:57,359 --> 00:21:59,199 Speaker 1: The people who were saying, hey, maybe we toned down 385 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: the Nazi rhetoric are people who have said he's a Nazi. 386 00:22:02,840 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: So if you've said he's a Nazi, why would you 387 00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: tone it down? If you've said it as a Nazi 388 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 1: and he's not that's the only reason you would tone 389 00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:13,919 Speaker 1: it down. So they're essentially admitting that they're scumbag liars, 390 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 1: which is not a surprise, but that's that's where things are. 391 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:21,560 Speaker 1: It's also tiresome, but play That kind of psychological manipulation 392 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: is very common among demagogues and among leftist utalitarian movements, 393 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 1: which I get into in some detail in Manufacturing Delusion. 394 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 1: The Fantastic book is available tomorrow on wherever fine books 395 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: are sold, including how. 396 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 2: Many interviews are you? 397 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 1: Where will people hear you promoting the new book which 398 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 1: is out tomorrow and everybody shall know why? A whole 399 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: bunch of shows, some of your favorite conservatives are very 400 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: kindly going to be having me on their programs, which 401 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: you know will be a lot of fun. Not going 402 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:54,199 Speaker 1: to get on Rogan' I don't know what it is 403 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:57,119 Speaker 1: at this point. At this point, like the Rogan's had 404 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 1: so many episodes, neither you nor I have been on 405 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: that show. Yeah, and at this point it's like what 406 00:23:01,480 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be episode number six thousand and like the 407 00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,400 Speaker 1: year twenty fifty five or something like. You know, there's 408 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 1: like comedians I've never heard of that no one's ever 409 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,080 Speaker 1: heard of the go on there people are coming back 410 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 1: to like their eighth round. They'm just like, all right, man, 411 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:14,719 Speaker 1: no love, no love from Joe. What can I tell you? 412 00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 1: It is what it is? 413 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 2: There are only two. 414 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,560 Speaker 1: Cia guy writes what's clearly going to be a best 415 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,800 Speaker 1: seller about mind control. Why would Joe Rogan want to 416 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: talk about that book? I don't know, it's no interest. 417 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: Only two outlets that I would want to do that 418 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: I haven't done. I mean this honestly, Bill Maher for 419 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:32,920 Speaker 1: whatever reason, won't have me on. I think it has 420 00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,280 Speaker 1: to do with the banning from CNN because they're owned 421 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: HBO and CNN, same parent company, Warner Brothers. I would 422 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: go on that show. You went on that show You've 423 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,159 Speaker 1: been on several times. It's a fun sort of Donny 424 00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 1: Brook over a variety of different issues. And then Joe 425 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: Rogan is the other one I would put on. Otherwise, Like, 426 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: I don't even I feel like I've done every all 427 00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:55,359 Speaker 1: the View, right, I mean, there are some that would 428 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: just be fun to go on. I have a dream, Clay, 429 00:23:58,000 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: I have a dream that one day the two of 430 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: us will get to do the View together. And now 431 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,359 Speaker 1: maybe this is a fantasy more than a dream, But 432 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 1: it would be a lot of fun. 433 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:08,600 Speaker 2: That's all I could say. It would be a great 434 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 2: time for everybody all involved. 435 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: Well, were you on when I had Brendan carran I 436 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: think you were out that day that chairman of the FCC, 437 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 1: And I said, just so you know, because he's got 438 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:19,520 Speaker 1: continues to give guidance about the fact. 439 00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:20,959 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw this story. I think 440 00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: it's a huge story. 441 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: I meant to share it on my Twitter feed about 442 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: the unfair treatment of political ideas. Did you see Apple News, 443 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 1: which is among the biggest of all news sources, has 444 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: basically not linked Fox News, the New York Post, the 445 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 1: Wall Street Journal. It only links left leaning news sources. 446 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: And so if you're out there and you were just 447 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: super busy and you get your iPhone and you used 448 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: Apple News to inform you as to what is going 449 00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:56,159 Speaker 1: on in the world, Apple News only sites left wing 450 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:01,719 Speaker 1: news organizations. It never ever cited. I'm talking about big organists. 451 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,639 Speaker 1: I mean Fox News, kind of big Wall Street Journal, 452 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 1: kind of big New York Post, pretty big. Never cites him. 453 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: And so it's actually not only the citation, the site 454 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: traffic that a site like that sends is a basically 455 00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: in kind contribution to the overall business itself. Because if 456 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: you go look and I know this because I ran 457 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: OutKick for a long time, and you go look at 458 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,239 Speaker 1: the data on where traffic comes from. Even now in 459 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 1: an AI age, Google, Apple News, these big sort of 460 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 1: news aggregating sites drive tremendous traffic that is translated into 461 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: real dollars from an advertising perspective, and they're not even 462 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 1: citing it. But when we had Brendan carr on, I 463 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: pointed out to him, Hey, you know, Buck and I 464 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,359 Speaker 1: emailed the ladies at the View because they argue that 465 00:26:00,359 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 1: they invite conservatives, but they just don't come on. And 466 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: I thought Bill Maher was funny about this too, because 467 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: Bill Maher said, yeah, basically, every conservative that I invite 468 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,880 Speaker 1: comes on the show. Lots of left wingers won't come 469 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:16,800 Speaker 1: on because they are afraid of leaving their bubble where 470 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:20,200 Speaker 1: no one challenges their arguments. This is this is something 471 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: that I've been saying Klay for a very long time, 472 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:25,199 Speaker 1: which is starting even on Like I was a college 473 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:28,239 Speaker 1: Republican in the year the first time, in the year 474 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: two thousand, Okay, so going back quite a ways, starting 475 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: in college and then all the way up through if 476 00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:37,080 Speaker 1: you happen to do anything in media, writing, TV work, 477 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: any of that kind of stuff. 478 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:38,399 Speaker 2: Radio. 479 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:44,679 Speaker 1: The right wing ecosystem was one of constant you know, 480 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:50,199 Speaker 1: iron sharpens iron, right. It was constant heat and challenge 481 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,920 Speaker 1: and difficulty, and you know, how do you get stronger 482 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: through overcoming challenges? Threw resilience through, whereas the left wing 483 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:01,679 Speaker 1: you got to just bounce from easy overpaid gig, the 484 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:05,439 Speaker 1: easy overpaid gig, huge ecosystem for you to go to, 485 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: never challenged or whatever. They got intellectually flabby and flimsy, 486 00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: and they got the media that they deserve as a 487 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,360 Speaker 1: result of that. It's really true, Clay and I have said, 488 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: talking with this before we could sit here, there's a 489 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: whole I could name a dozen, and I mean big 490 00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: name people, right because the left flows like what about 491 00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 1: this guy who's like an assistant professor of this at 492 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,879 Speaker 1: Harvard who's also writing for you know, a huff Post 493 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: on the on occasion. No, I mean they're big names. 494 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: Our big names are way more competent and way more 495 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,040 Speaker 1: capable and intelligent than their big names in media. It's 496 00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: not even close, not even close. Would absolutely smoke them, 497 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,040 Speaker 1: not just claying me. A lot of the others out 498 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: there too. Our team just better smarter individuals because we've 499 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 1: had to be Yea because it wasn't it wasn't possible 500 00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 1: to just go everywhere you wanted to go and have 501 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: everyone applaud whatever dumbass stuff you had to say, which 502 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:56,680 Speaker 1: is true of a lot of people that work that 503 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: you know CNN and then ABC, and then you know 504 00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 1: and that BBC and then you know all these different 505 00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,679 Speaker 1: it's all the same crap. Well, you have to know 506 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 1: the full scope of arguments, which is the only way 507 00:28:07,800 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: that you can actually be well versed. And I still 508 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: think most people on the left have no earthly idea 509 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 1: what arguments we make on this show. And I said, 510 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:20,679 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't even hear when they're sided. People 511 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:24,639 Speaker 1: like AOC embarrassed themselves at the Munich conference. It just 512 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: doesn't even echo or ricochet inside of their world such 513 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: that they can realize that they're supporting true ignoramuses. All right, 514 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: let's talk about something that is going on day in 515 00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: and day out you need to know about. It's really important. 516 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: Eighty thousand. 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That's pound 535 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:45,320 Speaker 1: two five zero Say baby, or visit preborn dot com, 536 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 1: slash buck, preborn dot com, slash b u c K 537 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 1: sponsored by Preborn. 538 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 7: Two guys walk up to a mic Hey Anything goes 539 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 7: Clay Travis and Fuck Sexton on the free iHeartRadio app 540 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 7: or wherever you get your podcasts. 541 00:30:04,600 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: Third hour of Clay and Buck on this President's Day 542 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 1: where Clay and Buck are both working as is our 543 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: amazing team located in New York City. Some of you 544 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:20,640 Speaker 1: are on holiday, some of you get to celebrate the 545 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 1: President's kind of a weird holiday, isn't what you think 546 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 1: about it? 547 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 2: Well, what exactly's the holiday? 548 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 1: It's just Washington's birthday and then they expanded it to 549 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: Lincoln and now it's just kind of a weird construct. 550 00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: But it's like expanding a Lincoln. But it's like we're 551 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: doing a dual birthday. So what kind of kind of 552 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,600 Speaker 1: nonsense is this? 553 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 2: This is a little little bit of. 554 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:42,240 Speaker 1: It's a weird hal Let's be honest. Let's be honest everybody. 555 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: What is President's Day really for getting a great deal 556 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:51,000 Speaker 1: on a mattress? Uh, maybe a lawnmower, perhaps some outdoor furniture. 557 00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 1: Like that's really what President's Day is all about. It's 558 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: a time for businesses to establish a post Christmas sale 559 00:30:59,080 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: when they can move in. 560 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: Am I right? Or am I right? 561 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean that certainly is the thing you would see 562 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: back in the day. I don't know that they advertised 563 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 1: that as much. Back in the day when newspapers existed, 564 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: there were always mattress cells. That was the big President's Day. 565 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 1: I don't know that they really pull that anymore. But 566 00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,520 Speaker 1: by the way, since it is President's Day and I 567 00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 1: know we're going to get to Obama, but did you 568 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:24,320 Speaker 1: see I was actually stunned by something that I saw 569 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 1: come down, which I think is indicative of how successful 570 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: they have been in defining modern day ideas of the presidency. 571 00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 1: Do you see the rankings for people today of who 572 00:31:36,800 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: the best presidents are? Oh no, okay, I thought you 573 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:41,239 Speaker 1: were off roading, as you tend to do, and all 574 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: of a sudden, we're going to be talking about some 575 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 1: football thing. No, this is actually about presidents. They have 576 00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: President's Day. I mean, some of this is not going 577 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: to surprise you. According to Americans, this is from you, Gov. 578 00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln is seen as the greatest president of all time. 579 00:31:56,360 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people would kind of NodD 580 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 1: along and say, you know, went in the Civil War. 581 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 1: I have a big deal ending slavery. George Washington, you 582 00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: don't like I think you gotta give G. I think 583 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: G Dubbs. It's gotta be G Dubbs. I'm sorry he's 584 00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: in third. This one really surprised me. 585 00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:15,760 Speaker 2: John F. Kennedy is second. What get out of here, trash, 586 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 2: trash of this in the trash. 587 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 1: Abraham Lincoln one, John F. Kennedy two, George Washington three. 588 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 1: This one surprised me a little bit. I think it's 589 00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,360 Speaker 1: actually just a sign that people don't know there's more 590 00:32:30,400 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 1: than one. Roosevelt, Theodore Roosevelt fourth place, and then Franklin 591 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: Roosevelt sixth place. Thomas Jefferson in fifth place. This one 592 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:45,040 Speaker 1: also surprised me. John Adams, who is like the big 593 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: John Adams fans out there like that he would be 594 00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: the seventh best president of all time. 595 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,640 Speaker 2: A little bit of a I mean, I look, I 596 00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 2: think the founders. 597 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:57,239 Speaker 1: You gotta give the the early guys a little bit 598 00:32:57,280 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 1: of a uh, you know, extra points for you know, Washington. 599 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: It's like if he med, you know, Kamala messes up, 600 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: she goes on a book tour, Washington messed up. 601 00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 2: He was gonna get hanged, right. It's a different deal. 602 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: And the whole country was potentially going to cease to 603 00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 1: exist either either way. Yes, I'm saying Stave maybe a 604 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 1: little bit more significant for Washington than others. Yeah, yeah, 605 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: I think you got to give Washington a little bit more. 606 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting that Jefferson doesn't appear on these lists. Well, 607 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 1: Jefferson is at five, Fdh's at five, okay, yeah, John 608 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: Adams seven, Ronald Reagan eight, Madison nine, and then it 609 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:41,680 Speaker 1: starts to get Wonkee, Obama nine, get Auty. 610 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 2: What list is this? This is? This is the Communist 611 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 2: dot com? 612 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 1: What is this lest of how Americans rate presidents? This 613 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 1: one blew my mind. Jimmy Carter plus six the communists, 614 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: this is all trash. The bots from India have made 615 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: this thing up. There's no way what what jumped out 616 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: to me is is Okay, Richard Nixon not very popular, 617 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:05,600 Speaker 1: Joe Biden not very popular, George W. Bush, a lot 618 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 1: of current presidents by and large not very popular. But 619 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,960 Speaker 1: this one Andrew Jackson minus three. 620 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 2: And I don't think a. 621 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:15,960 Speaker 1: Lot of people think about this, but when they were 622 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,799 Speaker 1: trying to take Jackson off the twenty dollars bill, which 623 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,799 Speaker 1: seems to basically have ended. They have basically created in 624 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:28,120 Speaker 1: the world the idea that all Andrew Jackson did in 625 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: his eight years as president was the Trail of Tears. 626 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: And I thought this was interesting because when you and 627 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: I were in school, Andrew Jackson would have been considered 628 00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: one of the best presidents in the country. And they 629 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 1: have been so successful at defining Jackson entirely based on 630 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: the Trail of Tears that he now has collapsed in 631 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,680 Speaker 1: his overall popularity. 632 00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 2: Well, this is why this stuff matters. 633 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: It's because these fights over history actually fights over the 634 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: narrative in the present right, it all is meant to 635 00:34:58,239 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 1: influence our thinking and our feelings about what is in 636 00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,680 Speaker 1: the here and now. There is power at stake with 637 00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,319 Speaker 1: the history that we believe or with the history that 638 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: we accept, and so that's why the left is always 639 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 1: rewriting history as fast as they can. And you noted Nixon. 640 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 1: I know we're all supposed to hate Nixon so much. 641 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:16,840 Speaker 1: The Democrat Party in this country hated Nixon because he 642 00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: was a staunch anti communist and he was right about 643 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: the fact that they were a bunch of damn commies 644 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,239 Speaker 1: and sold out the country at the highest levels. So 645 00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: they were kind of ticked off about that, so they 646 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: tried to get him back. There's a lot of stuff 647 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: that people don't and you look up the Venona Project, 648 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 1: which was the top secret military program about the penetrations 649 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: of the United States government all Democrats, by the way, 650 00:35:35,080 --> 00:35:37,360 Speaker 1: including at some of the very highest levels of our government. 651 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,280 Speaker 1: This was a real thing. It was declassified in the eighties, 652 00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:43,080 Speaker 1: I think it was, and the Communist menace was far more. 653 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,720 Speaker 2: Kids don't even learn about this in school. 654 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:47,320 Speaker 1: And how many people even know about the Vena Project 655 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: Venona There's very very few. But clay My point on 656 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,440 Speaker 1: all this is, yeah, of course they want to find 657 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:58,320 Speaker 1: presidents of the past and elevate them that are meant 658 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 1: to push certain ideas and policies today. I mean, the 659 00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: notion of Barack Obama is a great president, that's that's absurd. 660 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 1: The notion of Jimmy Carter's as a great privy Carter 661 00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: is is even crazy me. I mean, I actually think 662 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 1: that Carter probably did less damage actively. Barack Obama is 663 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 1: saying a signature thing. Well, you know, we should we 664 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: get into Obama. Well yeah, let's get into Let me 665 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: get hit you with one more thing to you, because 666 00:36:20,680 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: I think you made a good point about the fact 667 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: that the history is being used to dictate the way 668 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,680 Speaker 1: we talk today. They tried to replace Andrew Jackson with 669 00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: Harriet Tubman. I think that's been somewhat forestalled. But remember 670 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 1: they were going to replace Alexander Hamilton on the ten 671 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: dollar bill, but Hamilton the Musical was so popular that 672 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:45,480 Speaker 1: they rescinded the idea of taking him off money. This 673 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 1: is two hundred years after he died in the duel 674 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,719 Speaker 1: with Aaron Burr. So if you're out there and you're thinking, oh, 675 00:36:53,320 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys have to have fixed historical 676 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: records because it's been two hundred years since they died. 677 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: Jackson has been torn down really in the twenty first century. Meanwhile, 678 00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 1: Alexander Hamilton, who was obviously never a president, has surged 679 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:11,840 Speaker 1: up entirely based on the way they're talked about today. 680 00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: It's not like they're continuing to alter the trajectory of 681 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: their presidencies or were. 682 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 2: Still having fallout from it. 683 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: That's because a lot of Americans, unfortunately, when they think 684 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:26,040 Speaker 1: of Hamilton, Alexander Hamilton, they think of a Puerto Rican 685 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: guy rapping badly. So that's why they need him he 686 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: gets to stay on the ten dollars bill. 687 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:33,920 Speaker 2: I mean it is really crazy. Okay. 688 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 1: On Obama, he did a sit down interview. He said 689 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: a lot of things. Let's start running through this. This 690 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 1: is the most this is the most quintessential Obama thing 691 00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: in existence, which is to say something that is that 692 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,680 Speaker 1: I in fact is self refuting in the statement itself. 693 00:37:52,360 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: He was sitting down with some left wing podcast guy, 694 00:37:56,520 --> 00:37:59,720 Speaker 1: and here we go, Obama. This is cut nine about 695 00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: how we the right are angry and mean and divisive, 696 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 1: unlike them the left. They them who are warm, cuddly, 697 00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:10,800 Speaker 1: fantastic and inclusive. 698 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,720 Speaker 2: Play nine the other. 699 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:21,520 Speaker 4: Side does the mean angry temagogue. Yeah, exclusive us them. 700 00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 4: You know, divisive politics. That's their That's that's their home court. 701 00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:36,080 Speaker 4: Our court is coming together. Our court is. Look, you 702 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 4: are a great example. Wasn't political bad bunnies, halftimes. You're 703 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:45,520 Speaker 4: going to say that, well, it was. It resonated. It 704 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 4: was smart because it wasn't preaching, it was showing. It 705 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 4: was demonstrating and displaying. This is what a community is. 706 00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: Clay, He's wrong on all accounts, but I also of 707 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: the unlike those other jerks, were really nice and inclusive 708 00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:08,399 Speaker 1: we're the inclusive side while being exclusive of them. 709 00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:11,320 Speaker 2: Barack Obama's tenure. 710 00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:16,240 Speaker 1: Was, I think, more than anything else, characterized by bringing 711 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:19,040 Speaker 1: back race riots in the twenty first century BLM one 712 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,720 Speaker 1: point zero. It brought people together while they were burning 713 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,000 Speaker 1: down neighborhoods out of anti white rage. 714 00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 2: That's not good. 715 00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: I wonder how plugged in Obama actually is on very 716 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: much that's going on. How much is him knowingly lying 717 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: versus just not really paying that much attention to the 718 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: day to day trajectories of politics. And the reason why 719 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: I ask that is, remember Kamala tried to call him out, 720 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: you know, go to the bullpen, so to speak, and 721 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 1: Obama came and tried to campaign for Kamala, and I 722 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,840 Speaker 1: thought was really bad and seemed tone deaf. He lectured 723 00:39:56,880 --> 00:40:00,319 Speaker 1: black guys that they needed to vote for her and 724 00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: that it was sexist of them not to be supporting 725 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:07,280 Speaker 1: Kamala in the same way that he was supported. And 726 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:11,760 Speaker 1: he never really got engaged with Biden at all, because 727 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: I think Obama knew Biden was out to lunch and 728 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 1: wasn't able to actually do the job. And so when 729 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:23,480 Speaker 1: I see and hear these sit downs, he sounds pretty 730 00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: out of touch with what's going on right now, and obviously, 731 00:40:28,200 --> 00:40:30,359 Speaker 1: when you're the president of the United States, you have 732 00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 1: to be at least aware of what's going on. I 733 00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,040 Speaker 1: think he's just a rich, out of touch leftist like 734 00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: many of the people that are in Hollywood right now. 735 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: And what cut exactly did you play, because there's so 736 00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: many other I've played nine, but there's so many others 737 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: we can get into here. 738 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 2: We get the whole show. 739 00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,919 Speaker 1: Just on Obama's eleven. Obama says they have a much 740 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,799 Speaker 1: harder job than Republicans because they're not as mean of 741 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,920 Speaker 1: the than trying to kill Trump a couple of times 742 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:02,840 Speaker 1: cut eleven. 743 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 4: Yes, we have a harder job because sometimes I think 744 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,000 Speaker 4: we're tough on Democrats, saying, why aren't you being as 745 00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,920 Speaker 4: being tough and nasty as there. Well, you know, when 746 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 4: I was president of the United States, I suppose I 747 00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 4: could have simply unilaterally ordered the military to go into 748 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:25,879 Speaker 4: some red state and harass and intimidate a governor there, 749 00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,600 Speaker 4: or cut off funding for states that didn't vote for me. 750 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 4: I could have exercised that prerogative. But that is contrary 751 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,160 Speaker 4: to how I think our democracy is supposed to work. 752 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 4: And I think we shouldn't get discouraged by the fact 753 00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 4: that we have a tougher job. We should What we 754 00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,080 Speaker 4: should do is expect that our side is smart enough 755 00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 4: to figure it out. 756 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:52,040 Speaker 1: Clay Obama explicitly threatened to cut off education funds. Do 757 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:55,920 Speaker 1: I think it was North Carolina over the bathroom gender 758 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 1: policy bill. Essentially, you have to let tranees use whatever 759 00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: room they want, or else we're gonna go in school. 760 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, that'sa He actually was star game. 761 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: Remember that he was thuggish in his use of government power. 762 00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:14,959 Speaker 1: He sued nuns for Heaven's sakes, and he's complaining about 763 00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:16,359 Speaker 1: Trump enforcing immigration law. 764 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 2: Really, he's a nice guy. 765 00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:22,239 Speaker 1: I would like to hear someone interviewed who is on 766 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: the left, and I would like the question to be 767 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: we hit a one twenty five year low in murders. 768 00:42:29,320 --> 00:42:32,560 Speaker 1: Do you think Donald Trump deserves any credit for that 769 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,360 Speaker 1: at all? Because you're talking about him sending troops into 770 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,920 Speaker 1: red states and sorry, whether Obama could have done it 771 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,000 Speaker 1: sending troops into blue states. The results of that have 772 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,800 Speaker 1: been that way more people who tended to vote Democrat 773 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 1: are alive today than otherwise. Would I would just like 774 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,200 Speaker 1: to hear somebody say does Trump deserve any credit at all? 775 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,720 Speaker 1: Do you think the southern border being the most secure 776 00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,359 Speaker 1: than it's ever been in our life? Do you think 777 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: that is in any way connected to us setting one 778 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 1: hundred and twenty five year low for murders. 779 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 2: What answer will they? 780 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: I'd like to hear AOC really answer that, because whatever 781 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: you think about Obama, he's smart. AOC is a moron. 782 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,959 Speaker 1: We'll continue to talk about this. We'll take your calls. 783 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: We got some interesting talkbacks. As I said to finish 784 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: off the second hour of the program, I did not 785 00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 1: expect to be criticized for what we are being criticized for, 786 00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: but we will play it. Power outages can happen without warning. 787 00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:31,759 Speaker 1: Weather disruptions one reason. Wildfire preparation another protecting homes and 788 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: lands from down power lines that are live. We just 789 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,479 Speaker 1: had to deal with hundreds of thousands of people being 790 00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:42,800 Speaker 1: without power, some for as many as nearly two weeks 791 00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,080 Speaker 1: in my hometown of Nashville. I'm down in Florida right now, 792 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: and I was talking to people here who were in 793 00:43:50,400 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: the Oxford, Mississippi area, which was maybe the most hard 794 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,479 Speaker 1: hit in the entire country with the recent huge winter 795 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: storm that swept through. 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That's rapid radios 805 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,120 Speaker 1: dot com News. 806 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:41,040 Speaker 3: You can count on as some laughs too. 807 00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:43,160 Speaker 2: Clay Travis and Buck Sex. 808 00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 3: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 809 00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:48,040 Speaker 3: get your podcasts. 810 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: All right, Crash DJ Crash. What is that intro we 811 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:55,319 Speaker 1: just heard? Because we all play and I know we 812 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 1: know that song, but I don't know. 813 00:44:57,239 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 2: The name of that song? What is that vehicle? By 814 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 2: the IDEs of marketing. 815 00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,520 Speaker 1: I know it for the shaft. That's the only place 816 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:09,000 Speaker 1: I ever remember hearing that intro? Is this crash? Are 817 00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,760 Speaker 1: you just you just running a playlist? In Circle nineteen 818 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,160 Speaker 1: seventy to nineteen seventy five. 819 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,040 Speaker 2: Is that what you are? 820 00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:16,400 Speaker 1: Is that how you're rolling here for the show? Just 821 00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: so I know, So we're all clear on this one 822 00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:24,439 Speaker 1: because this up. Oh okay, that he's not even picking 823 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,840 Speaker 1: at all. I thought he was in charge of djaying 824 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,239 Speaker 1: this thing. Because I'm learning new songs here, I have 825 00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: no idea what some. 826 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 2: Of this stuff is. 827 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: So some of some of the funky tunes, Oh, Mike left. 828 00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:37,240 Speaker 1: Producer Mike is out right now and he left some 829 00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: tracks behind for us to groove out having surgery. 830 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,239 Speaker 2: We wish him well. 831 00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if he'll be listening to the program 832 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:47,440 Speaker 1: as he's recuperating, but we hope he's getting back safe 833 00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: and sound. So we have a bunch of things to 834 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: get to. We were just though talking about the Mafia thing. 835 00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,960 Speaker 1: I will say that was always the problem. We had 836 00:45:57,960 --> 00:45:59,920 Speaker 1: a listener get very mad that we're promoting them like 837 00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: the Mafia, which I don't think that's what we're doing. 838 00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: The Godfather is kind of a universally celebrated film. There 839 00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:08,520 Speaker 1: are plenty of movies, you know, I could say the extra. 840 00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:09,279 Speaker 2: Things that we could get. 841 00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:10,879 Speaker 1: And by the way, the reason we were talking about 842 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,120 Speaker 1: The Godfather is this is a sad story. 843 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:16,319 Speaker 2: Robert Devaal died ninety five years old. 844 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: So we were talking about all the movies that he 845 00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:23,319 Speaker 1: had been in that were iconic, and The Godfather is 846 00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:26,719 Speaker 1: one of those roles. I said, Lonesome Dove, which is 847 00:46:26,760 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: one of the great westerns of all time. I did 848 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 1: not anticipate that we would be criticized for saying The 849 00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: Godfather one and two are good films. I didn't see 850 00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:37,880 Speaker 1: that one coming. But I will say I think in 851 00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: general that the Italian mafia in America has gotten far 852 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 1: more generous pop culture treatment. 853 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 2: That it actually deserves. 854 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:53,280 Speaker 1: That's my and I had an uncle in law enforcement 855 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:55,280 Speaker 1: who worked against the mob in New York for a while, 856 00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,480 Speaker 1: and this was a thing. He would he would kind 857 00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: of stand on this one. He would he would say, 858 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,000 Speaker 1: he would stand on this hill, and he would say 859 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:07,000 Speaker 1: that the notion that these guys they're all just you know, 860 00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,120 Speaker 1: they're honorable family guys who've gotta do what they gotta do. 861 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:11,759 Speaker 1: I mean, there may be a little bit of that, 862 00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:14,800 Speaker 1: but there was a lot of I'm sending two thugs 863 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,080 Speaker 1: to collect the gambling debt and I'm gonna break you know, 864 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,040 Speaker 1: this single father's kneecaps unless they give me the money, 865 00:47:20,080 --> 00:47:21,399 Speaker 1: Like that's actually what they were doing. 866 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,240 Speaker 2: So is it fair to say? 867 00:47:23,320 --> 00:47:28,360 Speaker 1: I think this is probably accurate that whatever criminal element 868 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:32,640 Speaker 1: you were in, it has been better received. Like there 869 00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: aren't that many in the last twenty years. I would say, 870 00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:41,359 Speaker 1: good guy bad guy setups. It feels like the bad 871 00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 1: guys have become the anti hero, no matter whether it's 872 00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 1: the mob, whether it's drug dealing, whatever it is. 873 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:50,640 Speaker 2: They have flipped the script on. 874 00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,919 Speaker 1: Good guys right, Like who is the last real good 875 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 1: guy that was popular in popular culture? 876 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 2: And he didn't have a dark side. 877 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 1: I was the reason I was actually thinking about this 878 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: because Laura last night as we got ready for bed, 879 00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 1: was watching Little House on the Prairie. Whatever you think 880 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,720 Speaker 1: about Little House on the Prairie, it was a top 881 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 1: show for eight or nine years, and all we talked 882 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 1: about this before, all of the father figures are just 883 00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:20,480 Speaker 1: really good, Like Michael Landon is just a really pause 884 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,520 Speaker 1: a really good guy. When's the last show that was 885 00:48:23,600 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: popular where the good guys are just good? Well, this 886 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 1: is now You're getting into the broader, broader theme of 887 00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:35,280 Speaker 1: I think in general, Hollywood has and the creative industries 888 00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: in this country in general have just have pushed a 889 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:39,800 Speaker 1: lot of degeneracy and a lot of. 890 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:42,279 Speaker 2: You know, we grew up. 891 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,319 Speaker 1: And there would be shows And now I'm giving up 892 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:47,160 Speaker 1: the game here because Clay and I actually watched the 893 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,120 Speaker 1: same shows because he would have been in high school 894 00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:53,600 Speaker 1: at the same time. But there were shows like Full House, 895 00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,560 Speaker 1: Danny Tanner, which is funny because Bob Saget in Rest 896 00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,960 Speaker 1: in Peace in real life was kind of a salty comedian, 897 00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:06,000 Speaker 1: and Butner salty on on Full House was like lovable, 898 00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:09,279 Speaker 1: reliable dad, all about his kids. You know, wife had 899 00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: died I think of cancer or something on the show. 900 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:14,560 Speaker 1: I forget what the backstory was. But same thing with 901 00:49:15,360 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 1: Carl from Full House. I'm sorry, not Full House family matters, 902 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: lovable dad, cop, middle class black family. You know, everybody 903 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,320 Speaker 1: was Fresh Prince, Uncle Phil bil Co and the kid. 904 00:49:28,080 --> 00:49:30,480 Speaker 2: I know what happened with Bill Cosby, but no. 905 00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:30,880 Speaker 4: I know this. 906 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: We always did the Cosby there, you know, does Cosby 907 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,440 Speaker 1: the character versus You gotta be able to separate these 908 00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,799 Speaker 1: things a little bit. So yeah, Fresh Prince. By the way, 909 00:49:37,800 --> 00:49:39,279 Speaker 1: you know that house is up for That house is 910 00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:41,680 Speaker 1: like a sixty million dollar house. Now that they that 911 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,799 Speaker 1: they Yeah, no, it's not like a nice house. 912 00:49:44,840 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 2: It's a crazy nice house. Is that that? 913 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,959 Speaker 1: Well that they the growing pains like you run through 914 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,600 Speaker 1: Tony Danza, who's the boss every dad? 915 00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:55,440 Speaker 2: Uh, Tim Allen. 916 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 1: These dads were dedicated, competent, masculine hands. 917 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:01,719 Speaker 2: We're handsome enough. 918 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:04,920 Speaker 1: And then we kind of got into the era of 919 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,840 Speaker 1: dads are all kind of schlubs or the only dads 920 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,279 Speaker 1: that can be competent are dads that are sort of 921 00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,919 Speaker 1: non traditional, you know, they they have something about them 922 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 1: that is you know, maybe there's two dads, then the 923 00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,000 Speaker 1: dads can be good. Like you start to look at 924 00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:24,400 Speaker 1: this and you go, what really is the messaging that 925 00:50:24,520 --> 00:50:25,160 Speaker 1: is being sent? 926 00:50:26,080 --> 00:50:27,759 Speaker 2: I think that this is I think it's very real. 927 00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:30,000 Speaker 1: I don't think this is something that we sound like 928 00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:32,400 Speaker 1: church Lady from snl over here like, well, he's a 929 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 1: special like. I think that there's actually a real thing 930 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,439 Speaker 1: behind this and it's you know who, I would say, 931 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,000 Speaker 1: coach Eric Taylor Friday Night Lights. 932 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:42,239 Speaker 2: Last great dad character on television. 933 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:45,319 Speaker 1: He's a great I also I'm like a car Kyle 934 00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,520 Speaker 1: Chandler super fan is like I like him and everything 935 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: he's in. 936 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,640 Speaker 2: I think and if you haven't seen Friday Night Lights. 937 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:53,880 Speaker 1: It's a little weird because they have like thirty year 938 00:50:53,920 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: old Abercrombie models playing like sixteen year old high school kids. 939 00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:58,919 Speaker 1: You got to get past that for a second, which 940 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,759 Speaker 1: they don't really do, you know. I actually have people 941 00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: that play their age much more now. It wasn't too 942 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,239 Speaker 1: long ago. I even showed you Clay Well. My mom 943 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:10,160 Speaker 1: played a high school student in Summer of My German Soldier. 944 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:12,120 Speaker 1: She was in her twenties and had two kids. She 945 00:51:12,200 --> 00:51:13,399 Speaker 1: was playing the sixteen year old. 946 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 2: Yeah right. 947 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,640 Speaker 1: It was very common. I mean is the most like 948 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 1: back in the day. I mean you had people who 949 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,280 Speaker 1: were in their thirties, like Andrea was in her thirties 950 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 1: playing Zuckerman. It was like thirty five playing a sixteen. 951 00:51:25,200 --> 00:51:27,200 Speaker 1: I've never seen someone in their thirties and I'm like, 952 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:28,760 Speaker 1: they look like they're in high school. 953 00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 2: Like that's not a thing. 954 00:51:30,040 --> 00:51:32,920 Speaker 1: So that was something that we all just accepted in 955 00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:33,799 Speaker 1: television for a while. 956 00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,319 Speaker 2: Was very weird. Friday Lights has a little bit of that. 957 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: Like some of the characters are well cast, but some 958 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,120 Speaker 1: of them look way. The guy who gets paralyzed in 959 00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:44,080 Speaker 1: the show, to me, he looks like he's you know, 960 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 1: in his late twenties. And also Tira. There are no 961 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 1: high school girls that looks like Tira. She went on 962 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,560 Speaker 1: to play like a Marvel super heroine or whatever right 963 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:55,680 Speaker 1: after this, like that. I met her in high school. 964 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,719 Speaker 1: I got to meet her once. I was such a 965 00:51:57,719 --> 00:51:59,680 Speaker 1: fan of Friday Night Lights. She was in at the 966 00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 1: Hotel bar by the Fox lot, and I went over 967 00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 1: and said, I'm a huge fan. But I mean, to 968 00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,920 Speaker 1: your point, we basically have eliminated dads from pop culture 969 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:14,319 Speaker 1: and there are no positive dad pop culture characters. And 970 00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:19,080 Speaker 1: I think there is a huge opportunity to push back 971 00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:22,760 Speaker 1: against the counter culture and solve this issue. 972 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,840 Speaker 2: I think there's a demand for it. 973 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: Is the Tim Allen Show? Is that one that I 974 00:52:27,760 --> 00:52:30,040 Speaker 1: forget with people. I always get lit up for not 975 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,480 Speaker 1: having watched I really have not seen Tim Allen stuff. 976 00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 1: And I know everyone says he's great and is he 977 00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,320 Speaker 1: a dad? 978 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:37,959 Speaker 2: The Last Man Standing? Is good? 979 00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,400 Speaker 1: He's great in the Santa Claus, which a lot of 980 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: people will see every Christmas season as a you know, 981 00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:47,800 Speaker 1: failed or struggling dad. But I think there just became 982 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:52,040 Speaker 1: this idea we're talking about the mob. Tony Soprano to me, 983 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:58,160 Speaker 1: became the ideal father figure, and it just meaning in 984 00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:02,920 Speaker 1: terms of what they wanted to create in art, in shows, 985 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,720 Speaker 1: and then it descended from soprano and just got worse 986 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,479 Speaker 1: and worse. I mean, I guess they have to because 987 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,440 Speaker 1: they can't have you hate the guy. But the truth 988 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 1: is they're always like, he's not really a mobster because 989 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,200 Speaker 1: he always will kind of draw this line of not 990 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 1: doing the thing that's like really goes too far. And 991 00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: the truth is that's not the way that these guys operate. 992 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,279 Speaker 1: And well, and then they they hurt a lot of 993 00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:30,920 Speaker 1: They hurt and threaten a lot of innocent, defenseless people. 994 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:33,680 Speaker 1: That's actually what organized crime does. Like no one makes 995 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 1: these excuses for the Russian mob. Like the Russian Mob 996 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:40,480 Speaker 1: is particularly ruthless with what they do back home in Russia. 997 00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:42,560 Speaker 1: It's one of the ways they enforce I worked with 998 00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:44,160 Speaker 1: an NYPD guy who spent his whole career in. 999 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:44,879 Speaker 2: The Russian Mob. 1000 00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: He used to ask them questions about this all the time, 1001 00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,759 Speaker 1: and he says that they hear they just want to 1002 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,239 Speaker 1: rip people off and run scams. But if you're part 1003 00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 1: of the Russian community and you rat or you do it, 1004 00:53:53,800 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: they'll they'll get your family back in Russia. That's actually 1005 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:57,919 Speaker 1: how they go after people a lot of the time, 1006 00:53:58,120 --> 00:53:59,440 Speaker 1: and they're absolutely ruthless. 1007 00:53:59,560 --> 00:54:01,800 Speaker 2: No one's like, yeah, but they're family guys, you know 1008 00:54:01,840 --> 00:54:02,319 Speaker 2: what I mean? 1009 00:54:02,560 --> 00:54:05,600 Speaker 1: You know who never has a positive portrayal, probably deservedly, 1010 00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:10,080 Speaker 1: so cartels. There's no like, Oh, the cartels are actually 1011 00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: pretty good guys. 1012 00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 2: And I mean so so in scarface is pretty slick. 1013 00:54:13,719 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 2: But I hear you. 1014 00:54:15,320 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 1: So you're like, if I have to hang out with 1015 00:54:17,000 --> 00:54:19,799 Speaker 1: the cartel guy, this guy, I bet he throws great 1016 00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:23,759 Speaker 1: dinner parties. Most of the Mexican cartel stories or the 1017 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:28,839 Speaker 1: Latin American stories, the bad guys are pretty bad. But anyway, 1018 00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,680 Speaker 1: I do think it's emblematic that this conversation came out 1019 00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:35,480 Speaker 1: of the guy being upset. The movie is fantastic, It 1020 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:39,360 Speaker 1: isn't aspirational, and it reminds me of do you remember when. 1021 00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:42,359 Speaker 2: I thought Julia Roberts. 1022 00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 1: Actually had a great response on this, but when Pretty 1023 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 1: Woman came out, so Julia Roberts started getting criticized and 1024 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,920 Speaker 1: they said, you know, my daughter now wants to grow 1025 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,200 Speaker 1: up and be a hooker. Oh I agree with the 1026 00:54:54,239 --> 00:54:56,960 Speaker 1: Pretty Woman criticism. I think Pretty Woman is a trash movie. 1027 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,600 Speaker 1: It's bizarre. The whole thing makes no sense. But her 1028 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,840 Speaker 1: arguing that was, well, it's you shouldn't be showing Pretty 1029 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:04,839 Speaker 1: Woman to like a ten year old. 1030 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 2: Well that's like that's that's that's also true. 1031 00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 1: But but I think that's a little bit of a 1032 00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:11,640 Speaker 1: cop out because the whole if you think about Pretty Woman, 1033 00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,680 Speaker 1: it's a horrible movie. Like it's not entertaining. I'm not 1034 00:55:15,680 --> 00:55:17,759 Speaker 1: saying it's not entertaining, but if you look at what 1035 00:55:17,840 --> 00:55:20,120 Speaker 1: it is about. First of all, I mean, I don't know, 1036 00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:23,839 Speaker 1: you know, are you suggesting that super rich guys who 1037 00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,239 Speaker 1: are good looking like Richard gear Doll and fundamentally kind 1038 00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,680 Speaker 1: and decent aren't picking up hookers on rodeo or not 1039 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,600 Speaker 1: a rodeo drive on Hollywood Boulevard and then having the 1040 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:32,719 Speaker 1: love with them. 1041 00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:34,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, not so much. 1042 00:55:35,000 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 1: It is an absurd and and honestly grotesque movie. But 1043 00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:42,959 Speaker 1: it's got a good soundtrack and uh, you know everyone's post. 1044 00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:47,080 Speaker 1: I'm also, by the way, Julia Roberts overrated. Well maybe 1045 00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:50,440 Speaker 1: maybe even I mean, not quite as overrated as uh 1046 00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:52,680 Speaker 1: Natalie Portman, but still overrated. 1047 00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 2: I don't care anyone I think Julia armerts. Back in 1048 00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:55,839 Speaker 2: the day. 1049 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:58,000 Speaker 1: I was going to say, you know what movie really 1050 00:55:58,480 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: doesn't stand up Big? 1051 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:05,640 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, weird weird. 1052 00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:09,080 Speaker 1: Big, which made like five hundred million dollars back in 1053 00:56:09,160 --> 00:56:10,800 Speaker 1: the day and starred Tom Hanks. 1054 00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 2: Is if you watch Big today, you're like, this is. 1055 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:20,640 Speaker 1: A super super weird movie, like on so many different levels. 1056 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:22,799 Speaker 2: Uh, go back, I thought that. 1057 00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:26,319 Speaker 1: I thought the recent movie with the I said, it's 1058 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,440 Speaker 1: a woman who falls in love with her aquarium pet, 1059 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,359 Speaker 1: The Shape of Water. This woman falls and it won 1060 00:56:32,440 --> 00:56:35,240 Speaker 1: the Best Picture Clay like five years ago or something. 1061 00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:40,799 Speaker 1: It's a woman who basically like a weird amphibious thing. 1062 00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:46,640 Speaker 1: Amphibious Well, she's saying, Producer Alis saying, splashy splashes like. 1063 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,640 Speaker 2: Mermaid mermaids are I mean a mermaid? 1064 00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,120 Speaker 1: You got the top half this human Also, the Mermaid 1065 00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 1: is clearly not real, right, Like they're just FYI. I 1066 00:56:56,080 --> 00:56:58,000 Speaker 1: don't want to kill any of the big Mermaid truthers 1067 00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,759 Speaker 1: out there. But the end of the Shape of Water, 1068 00:57:01,239 --> 00:57:04,840 Speaker 1: this is a full on like amphibious monster. And she's like, 1069 00:57:05,120 --> 00:57:08,239 Speaker 1: let's let's let's get down with some some naughty time 1070 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 1: amphibious monsters. Were you on a date, how did this 1071 00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,960 Speaker 1: end up on your repertoire of watching films. 1072 00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,080 Speaker 2: It was years ago. I probably was on a date. 1073 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: This doesn't sound like what hey, you know what I 1074 00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:22,680 Speaker 1: want to do in my free time. I want to 1075 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:24,800 Speaker 1: watch The Shape of Water. This sounds like something you 1076 00:57:24,800 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: got your ass picture Oscar. Not like it was nominated 1077 00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:31,440 Speaker 1: Clay it won Best Picture. It's not even a good movie. 1078 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 2: And it has this woman's was falling in love with 1079 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 2: a month. 1080 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,280 Speaker 1: The whole thing is bizarre, degeneracy pure. And people get 1081 00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:38,520 Speaker 1: mad at me because I say I don't like everything. 1082 00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,920 Speaker 1: That's not true, because like on Netflix, I said the Rip, 1083 00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: which you like, by the way, which is a totally 1084 00:57:43,040 --> 00:57:48,800 Speaker 1: Clay Clay. If my standard for movies is do I 1085 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,320 Speaker 1: sit and watch it for two hours and not look 1086 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 1: at my watch to know how I couldn't get through it. 1087 00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,720 Speaker 1: I couldn't even fit. I bailed the last like half hour. 1088 00:57:55,720 --> 00:57:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, this movie is so so dumb, makes no 1089 00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: sense at all. But people ask them net Flix. Netflix 1090 00:58:01,120 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: has got great movies. Did the recent Frankenstein movie on Netflix? 1091 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 1: If those of you who actually read the original I 1092 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:11,880 Speaker 1: heard that, I've seen it average It's a beautiful rendition 1093 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:15,920 Speaker 1: of the true Frankenstein tale, and it's done by not 1094 00:58:15,920 --> 00:58:19,120 Speaker 1: Benicio del Toro, the other del Toro, whatever his name is, 1095 00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 1: you know, the not the actor, but the directors Guiermo 1096 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 1: Guermo del Toro, and also the the All Quiet on 1097 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,240 Speaker 1: the Western Front. Netflix movie is one of the best, 1098 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:31,240 Speaker 1: one of the best war movies I've ever seen, maybe 1099 00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:34,320 Speaker 1: even a top ten war movie, definitely top twenty. So 1100 00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:36,439 Speaker 1: they do do some good stuff. I'm not just here 1101 00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,960 Speaker 1: to trash things, but man, the Shape of Water was 1102 00:58:40,040 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 1: like brain damage. I think there's a lot of Again, 1103 00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 1: I just go back, and I was thinking about it 1104 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: even more as I watched Little House. I think I'm 1105 00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:52,200 Speaker 1: just telling you, if you're out there Full House, Fresh Princes, 1106 00:58:52,280 --> 00:58:54,800 Speaker 1: Family Matters, Growing Pains, Cosby Show, Who's the Boss, if 1107 00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,560 Speaker 1: you grew up in the eighties or the nineties, you 1108 00:58:56,600 --> 00:58:59,960 Speaker 1: have very positive association with that. 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