1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: H M. Welcome back to another edition of the Around 2 00:00:14,480 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: the League podcast. My name is Dan Hansis and I 3 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: am joined by the great, well built Chris Westling. That's 4 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,239 Speaker 1: just untrue, but thank you, very very you know, I 5 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: saw on Facebook you are now in a softball league 6 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 1: in Santa Monica thanks to Rhino Rhino King Jim rhine King, 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: who was one of our editors at NFL dot com. 8 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: You are assimilating into California culture. That is very exciting. 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: That was the one thing I needed a softball team. 10 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: That's what got me assimilated into Tybee culture in the 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: first place. Yes, an avid softball player. Also, you're an 12 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 1: avid chordhole player, one of the greats of all time 13 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 1: according to yourself. So I'm looking forward to, uh, you know, 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: getting some lessons from the Babe Ruth of cornhole lessons 15 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: will be forthcoming. Um, all right, so it's west and 16 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,080 Speaker 1: I Today was supposed to be Mark and I, but 17 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: we had a little change of plans. But we also 18 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: will be calling Greg Rosenthal, our boss, who is in 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: Canton at the Hall of Fame for all the festivities. 20 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: There are a couple of bits of housekeeping. Again, we 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,680 Speaker 1: are on iTunes now Alex Wilke behind the glass got 22 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: it done about a man of integrity and preparation and 23 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 1: good cheer. Uh. So you can go there and subscribe 24 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 1: and download and also rate us. Uh. According to wilk Tie, 25 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: the higher rating we get, the more love we get 26 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 1: on the iTunes page. And that's good. So if you 27 00:01:32,000 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: could do that, and you know, while we're here, thank 28 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,720 Speaker 1: you very much to our listeners. Even from going back 29 00:01:37,720 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: to the debate club days who you know chimed in 30 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: a lot on Twitter to Mark and I saying how 31 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: do we get the show? And now we have the 32 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: show on a larger platform. So this is exciting. Did 33 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: you know I checked my phone last night and my 34 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 1: podcast app we were the number one podcast and then 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 1: new what is new and noteworthy? Well, hello, Larry, did 36 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: you hear that? Wilk Yeah, I made that happen. So 37 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 1: the next thing we need to do is update the logo, 38 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: which looks like it was made by a seventh grader 39 00:02:11,360 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: in uh, you know, one of those computer workshop classes 40 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: and junior high. Yeah. My favorite thing about the logo 41 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: is that's it's quite clearly a college football and not 42 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 1: an NFL football. That's quite an oversight that we've made 43 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: there alright, so okay, we're working on that too. So 44 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: we're working out the kings, but the big stuff is 45 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: there now. We're on iTunes. So let's uh, let's keep 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: rolling with that. Today. We have several topics to get to. 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about QB battles. We're gonna talk about 48 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: some teams that maybe are a little bit under the 49 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: radar in training camp right now, and uh, but the 50 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: place we need to start, I think is Riley Cooper. Again. 51 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:49,160 Speaker 1: We talked about him on Wednesday. Riley Cooper, he of 52 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: the racial slur at the Kenny Chesney concert. The Eagles 53 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: teammates initially seemed to get behind him and say, you know, 54 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: we know who Riley is when today night, that's how 55 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: it was playing out. And then on Thursday we heard 56 00:03:02,919 --> 00:03:06,120 Speaker 1: from Lashawn McCoy, who maybe painted the other side of 57 00:03:06,160 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 1: the picture, which was I, you know, I lost a 58 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: friend and I don't I can't trust him or whatever 59 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:13,480 Speaker 1: exactly he said, But it was along those lines. Now 60 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 1: Friday comes and West you are you were working this morning? 61 00:03:17,280 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: What happened today? The Eagles sent Riley Cooper away from 62 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: the team to get to get some counseling, and it 63 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 1: kind of set it seemed to be setting up a 64 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: situation where they might cut ties with him down the road. 65 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: That's certainly when I saw it. When I saw it 66 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: on Twitter, that's the first thing I thought. I know, 67 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: Chip Kelly had said initially he wasn't going in anywhere, 68 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: but what you got to send a guy away, it 69 00:03:39,600 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 1: seems like the next step. Yeah, and I read, Uh, 70 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: Tom Peli Sero of USA Today just came out with 71 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 1: a column where he had interviewed a few executives around 72 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 1: the league, and they seemed to be unanimous in the 73 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: opinion that there's no way the Eagles could get anything 74 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: in a trade for Cooper right now. But they also 75 00:03:56,400 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: said that if Cooper was released, he would be picked up. 76 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: It might not be right away, but he would definitely 77 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: get another shot. Yeah, I mean that makes sense. The guy, 78 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 1: while he's not an elite player by any stretch, he 79 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: has talent and he's young, and uh, you know, in 80 00:04:10,840 --> 00:04:13,119 Speaker 1: this league, talent carries the day, as we've seen many 81 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 1: times before. And you know, I was a little curious 82 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: about this this assistance thing where he's going off site. 83 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't know what exactly he can be assisted with 84 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 1: other than maybe learning how to build a time machine. 85 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: I don't like, what what how can a man get 86 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: assistance for this type of situation? I don't understand that. 87 00:04:29,680 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 1: It reminds me a little bit this situation of the 88 00:04:32,240 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 1: Big Ben situation where the Steelers actually put Big Ben 89 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,200 Speaker 1: on the trade block and nobody would touch him because 90 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,480 Speaker 1: it was just too volatile of the situation at the time. 91 00:04:41,160 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: And I bet looking back on it, some teams probably 92 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,039 Speaker 1: wish they would have looked into a trade. This was 93 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: if you're referring to the bar incident, during the bar 94 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: bathroom incident, the bar bathroom incident. We you know, if 95 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: you really want to know more, you can look up 96 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: on the internet, uh, details of that wonderful incident for 97 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: big and but yeah, I mean that was a situation 98 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,280 Speaker 1: where he became this toxic figure and he got suspended 99 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:09,720 Speaker 1: for it, which obviously Riley Cooper will not be suspended 100 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: for it. But yeah, it just goes to show you, 101 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, who talks about that anymore? With Big Ben. 102 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: He's a guy that he moved on from it. He 103 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:20,359 Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl several months later. If I'm not mistaken, 104 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: um so Riley Cooper is still this is a unique situation, 105 00:05:24,920 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: whereas Roethlisberger was implicated in some pretty terrible things. Cooper, 106 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 1: it's one of those touchstone type things that everybody has 107 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: an opinion on, and it's just you know, there's a 108 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,200 Speaker 1: video involved which made it made it easier to go 109 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: viral when it first hit on Wednesday. So you know, 110 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: the one thing that's interesting to me, and you know, 111 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: I listen, I understand the Eagles are in a tough 112 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: spot here when one of your players uses you know, 113 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 1: the biggest racial slur in this country, and a lot 114 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,720 Speaker 1: of the players on that team are African American, it's 115 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: a nightmare scenario pr wise, But by by having him 116 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: step away from the team, and I know Cooper is 117 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:04,039 Speaker 1: the guy that came out and said he was leaving, 118 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: but I'm sure it was something like Riley, alright, let's 119 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: step away for a while. You know, are they extending 120 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,240 Speaker 1: this narrative unnecessarily because now what's going to happen is 121 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: he will go away for however long, whether it's a 122 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 1: week or three weeks or who knows how long. But 123 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: once he returns, it's a new story again, and all 124 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 1: the players get asked about it again, and Cooper has 125 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: to have another press conference to talk about it again. 126 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,280 Speaker 1: So was this from a team standpoint? Was it wise 127 00:06:29,320 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 1: to kind of extend this on their own? I don't 128 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: think it is. To me. It just seems like they're 129 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: trying to make the story go away for now. But 130 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 1: like you said, it's gonna have to be addressed again. Uh, 131 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: And the teammates are going to be asked about it again. 132 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,920 Speaker 1: Riley Cooper is of course going to be asked about 133 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: it again. So it seems whenever they do bring him back, 134 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: we're starting a new and I don't know how that 135 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 1: solves anything. No, I don't know either. So you know, 136 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: that's the big story in the NFL this week, and 137 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,760 Speaker 1: one of those stories that's crossed over from the NFL 138 00:06:57,839 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: to your mom knows about it. One of those situations. 139 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: But as far as actual NFL goes, I mean, you know, 140 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: maybe let's talk about I know, Will Gun Wednesday expressed 141 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: his um his anger that we had talked about the 142 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,160 Speaker 1: New York Jets to two episodes in the I mean, 143 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: the guy's filled with fury. He's upset because Mark Sanchez 144 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 1: is from USC and he's become a whipping boy for 145 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: this league, and I'm, as a Jets fan, upset about it. 146 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: But he got to me a little bit. We'll go 147 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: out to me. He's right, we shouldn't be talking about 148 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 1: the Jets all the time when they're probably an also 149 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 1: ran in the league this year. So you know, well, 150 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't need the peanut gallery either, though. I'm sorry 151 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: I'm bowing down. You're right. I don't need you then 152 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: to chime in, you know, with your crown on. I 153 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 1: just don't appreciate being being called angry when I'm very 154 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 1: calm on the side of the glass, very calm. All right, 155 00:07:47,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: you're the best. But okay, so let's talk about some 156 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: teams that maybe are under the radar. And uh, you know, 157 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 1: as we spoke about downstairs, there is there seems to 158 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: be what we can call a Bermuda triangle in the 159 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: uh southeastern area of this country. And it's three teams, 160 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars, the Tennessee Titans, and the Carolina Panthers, 161 00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: three NFL franchises that do not get enough love. So 162 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: let's talk about him as a transplant from Tybee Island, Georgia. Myself, 163 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm aware that these teams do not get enough love, 164 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: and I'm always happy to talk about them. Would much 165 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: rather talk about the Panthers, Titans, and Jaguar than the 166 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: New York Jets. I know. Actually I find myself writing 167 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: more content on the Jets than any other team, only 168 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:33,040 Speaker 1: because West has made a hard line stance not to 169 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:35,600 Speaker 1: write about the Jets since coming over to NFL dot Com. 170 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: So let's start with you, Dan, what is your feeling 171 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: on Cam Newton this year? Well, you know what, I 172 00:08:42,280 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 1: am a guy. I'm a Cam Newton apologist. I've always 173 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: been a Cam Newton apologist. Maybe maybe that's um somehow 174 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: connected to the fact that he's a fantasy football darling 175 00:08:52,200 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: for me, and he's won titles for me with those 176 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:59,319 Speaker 1: epic November and December runs where he takes the Panthers 177 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: from two in eight to seven and nine, which I've 178 00:09:01,760 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: enjoyed over the past couple of seasons. But I do think, 179 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: I really do think this he's in a good spot 180 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:11,559 Speaker 1: right now because he is the guy that's forgotten among 181 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: these young quarterbacks and having another year maturity, and when 182 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:20,200 Speaker 1: you combine combine that with his physical skills, which to me, 183 00:09:21,240 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: I kind of think he's peerless at his position in 184 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: terms of when you combine the speed and power and um, 185 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, his just ability to take over a game. 186 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: Maybe r G three is now in the conversation also 187 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 1: when he's But I think Panther uh Newton is the 188 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 1: guy that I love to watch more than anyone in 189 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: the league. Uh. He came out today. He spoke to 190 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:47,800 Speaker 1: uh Sterling Sharp on inside training Camp Alive, and he 191 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: had this to say, I just think it's it's time 192 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: for me. Hey, you know, it's no more and no 193 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: more excuses in my my part. You know, the first 194 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: year was was is gone, second year is gone. You know. 195 00:09:58,920 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: Now I'm because to a somewhat of a veteran to 196 00:10:01,600 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 1: these guys, you know. So you know, taking accountability on 197 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: this offense and as his team is is big for me. 198 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: And that's what I wanted to come back and and 199 00:10:09,480 --> 00:10:12,360 Speaker 1: be one of my staples to get better. So you know, 200 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: there is that lift service. I don't know, but I 201 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: do think he's potentially guy under the radar that could 202 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,640 Speaker 1: have a big season. The Panthers are are my pick 203 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: for the team that will come out of nowhere to 204 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,320 Speaker 1: make the playoffs in the NFC this year, not not 205 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: just because cam played so well downe the stretch last year. 206 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: But if you remember earlier in the year, they lost 207 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: a lot of games by a touchdown or less. Uh, 208 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: their kicker got fired for blowing a game or two 209 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: that the Grizzly lost Atlanta that they had no business 210 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: And after they moved Luke Keikly to middle linebacker, they 211 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: were a top ten NFL defense. So this is a 212 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: very intriguing team to me. So do you see if 213 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 1: you say they're a playoff team, I mean you're saying 214 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: this is a team that can win nine or ten 215 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: games and hanging their division. They have that type of 216 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: Absolutely I would I've I've picked him only behind the 217 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,080 Speaker 1: Falcons in the NFC out. I think the Saints have 218 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,679 Speaker 1: too many questions on defense. The Panthers are a more 219 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,559 Speaker 1: complete team right now. What about the idea of, uh, 220 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: the Panthers not doing enough to surround Newton with talent. 221 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: You know, I think Newton's gotten himself in trouble last year, 222 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: specifically in the early part of last year when he 223 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,640 Speaker 1: was trying to do too much. You know, they didn't 224 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 1: go out and get him another wide receiver. And you 225 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: have Steve Smith, who's another one of my favorite players. 226 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: But you know he's entering his age thirty four season. Uh, 227 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: is that going to be a situation? I think if 228 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: you believe Steve Smith is still a number one receiver, 229 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,560 Speaker 1: and we both do, and if you have Greg Olsen 230 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:37,959 Speaker 1: at tight end, you don't need to have the best 231 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: second wide receiver in the league. I think Brandon lefel 232 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 1: is good enough. It would be nice if one of 233 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: either Ted gin or Dominic Hickson or are Monty Edwards. 234 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. If one 235 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: of those guys stepped up as a third receiver would 236 00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: be nice. But I think they have the weapons. Uh, 237 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,959 Speaker 1: they do need Jonathan Stewart healthy. He's a better back 238 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: than d Angela Williams when he's healthy, so they need that. 239 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: But if they're all healthy, that is that's a good 240 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 1: enough offense to get to the playoffs. And who knows, 241 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 1: maybe if they didn't give D'Angel Williams such a terrible 242 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: contract a few years back, they would have had some 243 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: money to go get a wide receiver this year. That's 244 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:16,360 Speaker 1: a good point. Um. Okay, so moving forward the Titans, Okay, 245 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,480 Speaker 1: we got another team that you know, you look at 246 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: them on paper and you think maybe they can contend 247 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:25,680 Speaker 1: for a playoff spot, right right. They have the talent 248 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: at running back and wide receiver, uh, Delaney Walker is 249 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: a bit of a question mark at tight end because 250 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 1: he's never started before. But what I found interesting was 251 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 1: Sean Jefferson, the wide receiver's coach, kind of went off 252 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: on Justin Hunter this week, the rookie. And I've seen 253 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:43,080 Speaker 1: other sites kind of blowing that out of proportion. That's 254 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: just Sean Jefferson's m O. He likes the lie of 255 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: finder fire under young guys. Uh. He did it with 256 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: Tightish Young in Detroit. That didn't work out quite as well, 257 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know if that was on him though. 258 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,079 Speaker 1: I think Kendall Wrights lost fifteen pounds, which he definitely 259 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 1: needed to lose because he couldn't make plays after catch 260 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,040 Speaker 1: last year. They have some interesting, some interesting scale position 261 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,440 Speaker 1: players on offense. And it's easy to forget Kenny Britt's 262 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 1: season last year. He's wiped out, but you go back 263 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,080 Speaker 1: to Kenny Britt before the a c L injury in 264 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: September two thousand and eleven, he was turning into a 265 00:13:15,640 --> 00:13:19,120 Speaker 1: monster and now having another year full health as long 266 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 1: as he keeps his head on straight, which is obviously 267 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: a big question mark with him. He could be a 268 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 1: dynamic dude. But you know, it all goes back also 269 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,719 Speaker 1: to the quarterback, and you know, is Jake Locker the 270 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: guy because you could? You know? I agree. I think 271 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: this is a team that could be a potential five 272 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: or six seed. But at the same time, it only 273 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: they only go as far as Locker progresses. And he 274 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,679 Speaker 1: has weapons around him. He's got Chris Johnson, who's you know, 275 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: talking about two thousand yards again, all right, Chris. But 276 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: he has these receivers, uh. And he has a new 277 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,439 Speaker 1: offensive line, uh, interior offensive line that's very impressive. I mean, 278 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: it's all there. If this guy can progress, do you 279 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: see it happening? Though he's in his third year and 280 00:13:55,760 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 1: he's still fundamentally flawed uh as a with his mechanics 281 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: and his footwork. I think it's very telling that the 282 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,760 Speaker 1: Titans are moving to a run first offense. That tells 283 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: you what they think of Jake Locker right now. He 284 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,439 Speaker 1: has all the talent in the world, but he's not 285 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: ready to lead a team, to lead a passing attack 286 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: that can take a team to the playoffs, okay, and 287 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: then there's the Jaguars, and uh, I don't know, you know, 288 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 1: you want blame Gabbert. He deserves one more shot at this, 289 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: but it doesn't seem like it's gonna happen for this dude. 290 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,840 Speaker 1: And you know, to me, Blame Gabbert is going to 291 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 1: lose this competition to Chad Henny, isn't he? I think so? 292 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,560 Speaker 1: And I think uh I found it interesting when they 293 00:14:35,600 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 1: asked Mark Mike mclarkey earlier in the off season, who 294 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:41,520 Speaker 1: coached the Jaguars last year, his prediction, and he said, 295 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:44,360 Speaker 1: Chad Henn he's a better quarterback than Blame Gabbert. I 296 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: thought that was pretty telling, since he was part of 297 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: the regime the drafted Blame Gabbert. And you know, they're 298 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: the new coaching staff, the new front office has been 299 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: so pro Blaine all offseason, and then they get to 300 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,200 Speaker 1: training camp and see that he's just not as good 301 00:15:00,200 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: as maybe they hoped he would be. I think Chad 302 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: Henny can move the offense. He'll take too many sacks, 303 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 1: he'll throw too many interceptions, he won't be that accurate, 304 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: but he can get that offense up and down the field, 305 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: which I don't think Gabri can do. It's hard to imagine, uh, 306 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: them not targeting a quarterback next May, right, Yeah, so 307 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: you know, we can't count out Gathered until we actually 308 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,520 Speaker 1: see him at least in preseason games. But it's not 309 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: looking too well. So that is our update on the 310 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: Bermuda triangle. We can check in at some point. I 311 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: don't know if podcast ratings just dropped through the floor 312 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: talking about those teams. Well, what is your supercomputer? Side 313 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: supercomputer has suddenly broken for some reason? Uh So speaking, 314 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 1: you know, we're just talking on the QB battle and Jacksonville. 315 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:51,840 Speaker 1: There are other QB battles going on right now. Uh 316 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: so let's go through them. Uh In Buffalo, Wes, I 317 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: know you had mentioned downstairs. Uh ej Manuel, what are 318 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: your thoughts on that situation? Who I wrote about this 319 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: this morning? Kevin Cobb. His accuracy has been off. He 320 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,600 Speaker 1: he has never dealt with the blitzwell, and that's been 321 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 1: an issue already in training camp. Uh. Cobb has the 322 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: second highest sack rate among all active quarterbacks, behind David Carr, 323 00:16:16,240 --> 00:16:19,680 Speaker 1: who was sacked an ungodly amount of times when when 324 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans franchise just started you still can't sleep 325 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: through the night, and I don't see that changing for Cobb. 326 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: E J. Manuel on the other hand, the GM came 327 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 1: out this week says he has the it factor, He's 328 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: going to be the face face of the franchise. He's 329 00:16:34,560 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: outplagued Cobb the last three or four days of practices. 330 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:41,520 Speaker 1: I don't see how that momentum really changes. As Greg 331 00:16:41,560 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: likes to say, the tie goes to the rookie now 332 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,080 Speaker 1: in the in today's NFL. It wasn't always like that, 333 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: but it is now, and I just I would be 334 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: shocked if Cobb is under center in Week one, you 335 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: know what. The thing to me, I do think these 336 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: teams have to be careful with the tie going to 337 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:59,400 Speaker 1: the rookie. And I think last year was one of 338 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: those things where can instill a false sense of confidence 339 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: in these coaches and gms, where you had this a 340 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,120 Speaker 1: special crop of guys r G three, Andrew Luck, Russell Wilson, 341 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:10,480 Speaker 1: the type of guys that could take a team and 342 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: lead them, you know, into the playoffs, and even a 343 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: guy like Ryan Tannehill where it was clear that he 344 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 1: had the stuff to hang in the league, even if 345 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: he wasn't fully developed yet. Um, But you know, does 346 00:17:21,160 --> 00:17:22,840 Speaker 1: that mean that every guy should get thrown into the 347 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:26,640 Speaker 1: fire now if the if the incumbent isn't a overwhelming 348 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: favorite for the job, it just seems to be a 349 00:17:28,520 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: risky move. And you know that kind of leads us 350 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,399 Speaker 1: into the Jets, who have we have to talk with 351 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: the Jets a little bit, wilk. We won't hang on 352 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: it though, m oh Man. All right, he's shooting down 353 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: and I'm just gonna I'm just gonna fade you down here, 354 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: all right, bring back, thank you very much. Uh No, 355 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:48,639 Speaker 1: With the Jets, we have Geno Smith, who you know, 356 00:17:49,080 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 1: from all reports, seems to be heading into the driver's 357 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: seat on this job. I mean again, it's there's only 358 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: so much you can see without training camp, without preseason games. 359 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: But Mark Sanchez is not having a great uh training 360 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: camp from from what we're hearing, and Smith is starting 361 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 1: to inspire confidence in his teammates and the coaches are 362 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: speaking highly of him. So it seems like it's all 363 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: all it's all pointing to the Jets going for that 364 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: fresh start. But I don't know if Gino smiths in 365 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 1: a good spot there because he doesn't have an offense 366 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: around him. You know, the Jets situation is fascinating because 367 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: what's good for John is Zac isn't necessarily good for 368 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: Rex Ryan. Zick drafted Gino Smith. Yeah, and Rex Ryan 369 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 1: Sanchez is his guy. I don't know that. Uh. What's 370 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: interesting there also is that Sanchez has the same problem 371 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 1: as Cobb. If you blitz him, he he just folds. 372 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: He's terrible under pressure. And I don't know how you're 373 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 1: gonna reverse that. I get your point about the rookies. 374 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: You can't just rushed him in there. And point till 375 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: last year, which was the exception. Those those three guys, 376 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: and if you include Tanny Hill four guys, there might 377 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: not be a single quarterback in this year's draft class 378 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: that can hang with those guys. So I understand that, 379 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: but I don't know that there's any sent in running 380 00:19:00,760 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 1: out a veteran quarterback in Week one if he can't 381 00:19:03,880 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 1: deal with with pressure in the pocket. Okay, and then 382 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:10,920 Speaker 1: over in Philadelphia when they're not dealing with Riley Cooper madness, 383 00:19:10,960 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: you have the Michael Vick versus Nick Foles. What do 384 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:16,640 Speaker 1: you see going on there? I think that's Vick's job 385 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:19,520 Speaker 1: to lose, and it looks like he is pulling away 386 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: quite a bit from Fools, who last year to me 387 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: with disturbing. Disturbing thing about Fools was he was a 388 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: checkdown machine and he was brutal in the red zone. 389 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't see how after they drafted Matt Barkley kind 390 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: of told me that Foles wasn't there guy. So I 391 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: don't see why Fools would why they would pick Foles 392 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: over Vick in this competition. And one thing I think 393 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: to keep in mind and to take out of the 394 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 1: whole Cooper situation is that, you know, the team called 395 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 1: on Vick to be their leader in that situation, and 396 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: he spoke for the team and he had the private 397 00:19:51,240 --> 00:19:53,880 Speaker 1: conversation with Cooper before Cooper ever spoke to the rest 398 00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: of the teammates. In the locker room. The guy. You know, 399 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: there's plenty of reasons not to like Michael Vick, but 400 00:19:59,119 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: from everything we or, the guy is known as like 401 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: a respected dude in the locker room. And you know, 402 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,119 Speaker 1: when you see what's happening with that team and seeing 403 00:20:07,160 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 1: the team turning to him, it's hard to imagine him 404 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: then being the backup quarterback, right. I agree, he that 405 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 1: speaks volumes that they're turning to him as a spokesperson, 406 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 1: and then one more, one more quarter. It's not a 407 00:20:17,480 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: quarterback competition because, um, we know Jason Campbell is not 408 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 1: gonna beat out Brandon Weeden. But uh, you had some 409 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: thoughts about Peter King, who is you know, traveling around 410 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 1: with his new website, Monday Morning Quarterback dot com. Uh, 411 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: and you know he usually the part of the King 412 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: appeal is it's usually a sunnyside up type view on things. 413 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 1: So when he has a negative take on something, you know, 414 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:43,120 Speaker 1: it gets people to look. And he didn't have great 415 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: things to say about Brandon Weeden. He said flat out 416 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: that Weeden is not the answer for the Browns at quarterback. 417 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: And I'm kind of torn on this because I believe 418 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 1: the same thing. Weeden is not the answer. On the 419 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,760 Speaker 1: other hand, Peter King, as much as he we respect 420 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: him for his sources and his sort. He's very good 421 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,720 Speaker 1: at what he does when he's when he's reporting, but 422 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 1: his history is a talent evaluator is brutal. This is 423 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 1: a guy who has advised fantasy fantasy owners to draft 424 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: Eddie Royal and Jabbar Gaffney and Donald Jones. I mean Peter, 425 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,520 Speaker 1: Peter's Forte is not talent evaluation. If he's getting this 426 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: information from Rob Chazinski or Michael Lombardi, which he may 427 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: very well be. If he's coming out this strongly, then 428 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: it's pretty telling. And you know, I don't know that 429 00:21:28,880 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 1: the Browns really have that much to look forward to 430 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,360 Speaker 1: on offense this year. Yeah, I mean, Weeden's gonna get 431 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 1: his shot, and that's almost the most he could ask 432 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 1: for because with the regime change, it looked for a 433 00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: second there if it was a better quarterback class, he 434 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 1: would have already been supplanted. But he's gonna get a shot. 435 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,359 Speaker 1: It just doesn't see me he might not have a 436 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 1: lot of support in the building. Okay, So, as we 437 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 1: said earlier, Greg Rosenthal, our boss is in Canton for 438 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. We need to check in with him. 439 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: There's a couple of things. Actually, I want to talk 440 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: to him about something that happened last night, uh while 441 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,679 Speaker 1: I was handling the late news shift. We'll start with that. 442 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: So will Tie can you give gregor call? Let's do it. Hello, 443 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal, this is Dan ANSAs with Chris Westling be 444 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 1: Around the League podcast. So we're on. We are on. 445 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: Tell us what's going on in Canton right now. Uh. 446 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: I just had a pretty long media session with all 447 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: the uh in Chinese. It was pretty cool. Bill Parcels 448 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: the people. Someone asked me, like, who's the coolest person 449 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 1: to see? Because you're walking by thirty or forty Hall 450 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: of famers and and you know, it's kind of overwhelming. 451 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 1: And but Bill Parcelves for me, the kid at someone 452 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: that grew up in the Northeast is kind of the 453 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: coolest guide of me. Yeah, that that actually kind of 454 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 1: checks out for me too, when I having grown up 455 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 1: in New York. At the Super Bowl in February, we were, 456 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: I guess I think it was before the game. We 457 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:56,800 Speaker 1: were in a tunnel by the field level at the 458 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: super Dome and Parcels came strolling by with a big 459 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:03,480 Speaker 1: pair of aviators and he just had that kind of 460 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:07,199 Speaker 1: godlike appeal to a football fan like me. I just 461 00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 1: seemed I just got a little star struck when I 462 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: saw him. Yeah, I got that and and just everything. 463 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it's now the kinder, gentler, reflective Parcelves. So, 464 00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he was great. You could have just sat 465 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: there and listened to him the whole time. Chris Cartner 466 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: broke down crying within two or three minutes of talking 467 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: talking about um, you know, overcoming up his alcohol problems 468 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: and really had to stop the press conference for for 469 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes. I mean, it was more of 470 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 1: a casual setting, but he couldn't get it back together. 471 00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,159 Speaker 1: So it's cool seeing these guys, you know, miss setting 472 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,160 Speaker 1: because you realized how much it means to him. Yeah, 473 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Carter is was definitely one of my 474 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,800 Speaker 1: personal favorite players of the nineties when once he got 475 00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: his head on straight and went to the vikings. Was 476 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:53,879 Speaker 1: there ever a guy that was better at getting his 477 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 1: feet and bounds in the back or corner of an 478 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: end zone than Chris Carter Yeah, And I kind of 479 00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,120 Speaker 1: asked him what, you know, I asked him a few 480 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: different questions, but one was, you know, what sort of 481 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: what's his style as a player, what to find him? 482 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,360 Speaker 1: And and he kind of joked, but he's just like 483 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: you throw it, I catch it, Like He's like, if 484 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: someone's on me, I catch it, if someone is over there, 485 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:18,520 Speaker 1: if two people over the top of me, I catch it. 486 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: If it's away from my body, I catch it. If 487 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: I'm on the end, you know, and might not catch it, 488 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: and that was pretty good. I felt like that was 489 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,240 Speaker 1: a pretty good summary of what made him special. Yeah. 490 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: I think he probably had the best hands of anyone 491 00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: in his generation. UM So, you know, it's great that 492 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,199 Speaker 1: you're out there, Greg, but also we were not completely 493 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,240 Speaker 1: sure that you're gonna be able to give us any 494 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 1: production because you had you had what what would be 495 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 1: documented as a pretty awful technical issue yesterday. You gotta 496 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: bring that up. I lost the letter t um. I 497 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: think it might have been a little connnsation for water 498 00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: or something. But know that the letter T was no 499 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: longer working, and the letter T is important. Um uh 500 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,040 Speaker 1: has the letter T. Rosenthal has the letter T. So 501 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 1: you can't walk into your computer if if that's your 502 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: last name. So it was a problem. It slowed me 503 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: down a little bit. I'm I'm bouncing back. I've decided 504 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,400 Speaker 1: that you have turf toe. You are the LaDainian Tomlinson 505 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,440 Speaker 1: of the Around the League crew. You you have been 506 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: felled by the letter T. I have a lot of 507 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,600 Speaker 1: computer problems. I feel like in general that sort of 508 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,919 Speaker 1: follows follows me around, like like the black I like, 509 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: I have a friend that always gets injured, So this 510 00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 1: is like my equivalent of that. Yeah, and like turf 511 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,840 Speaker 1: toe is also the injury where it's a legitimate injury, 512 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: but you know nobody, you know, when you hear it 513 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,000 Speaker 1: explained as the injury, it's not very impressive. But when 514 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: you say you lose the letter T on your keyboard, 515 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: that's pretty devastating. But people probably don't take it seriously. 516 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:46,880 Speaker 1: That's you know, that's no. It's hard enough to get 517 00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: taken seriously as as someone that looks like he's fourteen 518 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,720 Speaker 1: years old kind of interview these guys, so that moving 519 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,880 Speaker 1: the letter T is just another another thing on top 520 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: of that. All right, So what else is going on 521 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 1: out there? What? What? How is the rest of the 522 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: weekend to play out? Uh? They have the enshining dinner tonight, 523 00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 1: which I'm gonna go to. They have the lunch in 524 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 1: uh this afternoon, which they do not allow any media, 525 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,880 Speaker 1: even even our photographer. I did this photo essay kind 526 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: of going through the hall and picking out some crazy 527 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 1: stuff that's gonna go up. I'm excited about that. We got, 528 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 1: you know, we got the big ceremony tomorrow night with 529 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,760 Speaker 1: a game on Sunday. I might try to hit up 530 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,800 Speaker 1: friendly restaurant while I'm here. Chris might know a little 531 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: bit about Friendly that I spend some time and Friendly 532 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 1: is the chain restaurant. Right. Oh yeah, Friendlies was great. 533 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: I remember going there with my dad after we saw 534 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: Aliens three in the theater, we went to Friendlies. It 535 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: was one of those moments that sticks with you. So 536 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: they have that in Canton good Times. I can't give 537 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: a preview, you know, I have heard, um, you know, 538 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: some inside scoop on who's going to have the long speech. 539 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: There was one speech there was only two minutes long 540 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 1: and they had to tell him to beep beep it 541 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 1: up a little. I know Chris Carter. Uh, this isn't 542 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: a secret, but Chris Carter is going to close out 543 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,680 Speaker 1: uh the day. And that's a big spot. You know. 544 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,440 Speaker 1: They kind of they kind of give it away who 545 00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,120 Speaker 1: they think is going to have the best speech by 546 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:11,120 Speaker 1: by who's last. They went Warren Sap second to last, 547 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,280 Speaker 1: and he was a big star here today, Like he 548 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: had the most attention. He pretty much had people laughing 549 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,720 Speaker 1: for about forty five minutes. But he's going to be 550 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: second to laugh and Chris Carter is gonna gonna close 551 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,160 Speaker 1: it up. Is Warren's Is he going to be able 552 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: to keep it together because I was watching NFL Network 553 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 1: had some type of special on yesterday, you know, walk 554 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 1: up to the to the ceremony, and SAP just lost it. Um, 555 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 1: sitting in a studio, I can't imagine what's going to 556 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:39,280 Speaker 1: be happening in front of all those people and family members. Yeah, 557 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing when I when I, you know, 558 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: with Chris Carter earlier two is that he literally was 559 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 1: two or three minutes into just a pretty casual session 560 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 1: with reporters and he had to stop for a couple 561 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: of minutes. He got so emotional. SAP, I think, is 562 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: you know, he'll cry. It would be interesting to see 563 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,240 Speaker 1: Bill Parcel's cry. He's kind of the one guy you're 564 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: not really sure Larry Allen. I can't really imagine Larry 565 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 1: Alan crying like Larry I'm cracked me up. Like I 566 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,040 Speaker 1: went and talked to him for a bit. Every every 567 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:10,119 Speaker 1: answer was funny and to the point, but it was 568 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 1: like four four words long. I feel like his speech 569 00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: is not going to involve any crimes. And uh is 570 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: Curtis Martin introducing Parcels? He is not. Uh, it is 571 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:26,200 Speaker 1: George Martin actually, Um who Parcels always kind of talked 572 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 1: about as the ultimate Parcels guy, the ultimate giant. But 573 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: but Martin is here like a lot of the former players. Um, 574 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 1: he talked you know, I talked to him a little 575 00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: bit about ourselves, um today, and you know, he's just 576 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,800 Speaker 1: I don't know you. I know you're as a as 577 00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: a big Jeths fan, like you couldn't have a better 578 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 1: ambassador than Curtis Martin. He was just very, very impressive. Yeah, 579 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: and I'm so the best part of it is that 580 00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:54,320 Speaker 1: we took him from your patriots at the prime of 581 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 1: his career and it will never You'll never give up, 582 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: You'll never forget about it. And that's what feels good. 583 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I mean, Parcels and Martin kind of 584 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: together really kind of kick started the whole, the whole 585 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:10,479 Speaker 1: Patriot Jet thing. I hope someone tomorrow has a speech 586 00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: close to as effecting as Curtis Martin, because to me, 587 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,600 Speaker 1: that goes I love these I love Hall of Fame 588 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,239 Speaker 1: week and I've never been here, but I always liked 589 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: to watching an MTV. You're hearing your voice one of 590 00:29:21,160 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: the best sound You sound giddy right now. Positively. I'll 591 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: see you guys Monday. Okay, thank you and have fun. 592 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: Enjoy it, kindler, gentler Bill Parcels. No big cars or 593 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,600 Speaker 1: big cigars and motor cars quote tour. If he does 594 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: doesn't bite as a puppy, he won't bite. Yeah, well 595 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,680 Speaker 1: he he was one of the great quote men of 596 00:29:40,760 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: all time. I'm sure we'll have a few good ones. 597 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 1: And I'm actually a little surprised he's not closing it 598 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: out because I feel like Parcels could deliver a killer 599 00:29:47,920 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: speech and I'm sure he's charismatic. Um. Okay, So that 600 00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: is it for this week of the A t L Podcast. 601 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:58,560 Speaker 1: Our first full week. So that was pretty good. So again, yeah, download, uh, 602 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: download and subscribe hbe on the iTunes page or however 603 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: you get content, and we will be back next week 604 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 1: with three more shows.